Less than 6 days left for chapter 5 of Deltarune, will we have any leaks before the chapter releases?
>>741372023I think it's very likely we get another music leak in a few days but that's it.
What's next for our HEROES?
>>741372023How should I know, I'm not a leaker.
>weird route>at the festival with noelle>walking around, interacting with stuff>suddenly hear Undertale's random encounter sound>enter an Undertale styled battle against a hometown resident
I dunno about leaks, but I just want to see the fucking ARG responses already. They must be pretty crazy if he's taking two whole weeks to sift through the answers and write responses.
I CAN'T WAIT ANY LONGER
>>741372473For me its gotta be>Chapter 6>Enter the bunker>Undertale opening starts playingFor pure mindfuck
>>741372506toby probably had them all written out months in advance and is just sitting on them to maximize the WAIT
What would Noelle react like if you just blasted a cumshot on her face out of nowhere?
WHHAAAAAT IF IIT SSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCKKKKS AAAAAAHHHHHH OH MY GO-->*KAAAAAA-BOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMM>VRRRROOOOOOOOOOSSSSHHHH>*raining*
>>741372023Idk sounds like you DeltaTroons are constantly leaking....
>>741372023Only the music, leading to hilarious misunderstandings.
Did Toby completely forget how fucking long Ch 2 is when he cut down Ch 3 for time?
>>741373378People fucking bitch and moan about ch3 as it is despite it being one of the best, it was probably the right decision.
>>741373378ch3's problem was the minigames stalling development, not the length of the chapter
>>741373503The only problem is not having a convenient way to retry for S rank. The S rank seller should have been after both boards.
>>741373378And that was Chapter 2's problem. Too fucking long.
>>741373520It wasn't just mini games, if you comb back through the newsletters there's good evidence that like, the entire structure and resolution of ch3 took a while to figure out. The plot line of the earliest draft likely little resembled the final product and the 'sword route' part wasn't always there in the way we know it in the final product.
>chapter 1Kino>chapter 2Cringe (mega kino on the weird route)>chapter 3Mega Cringe>chapter 4Holy fucking kino
so why exactly is Dess so important to the overall story? what is her purpose to the overall narrative?
>>741373378There's one funky way to shorten Chapter 2's playtime btw.
>>741373301Damn that's some big human from this pixel artist. But yeah, the music is the only thing being leaked if anything.
>>741373757How much weird route kino are we expecting?
>>741373757>sharter 1>Kino
>>741373765that's the funny thingwe don't actually know if she is or not, the vast majority of her 'importance' is implied through the arg stuff and not the game itself if you strictly only played the game there's only one thing implying that dess is missing or 'lost' and that's the rare rabbrick line nobody in game has connected 1225 to dess specifically, it could be something important to kris 'krismas' dreemurr for all we know
>>741373765Dess vanishing is the inciting incident of the story. It's why Kris is doing any of this shit in the first place. You have to ask yourself "what is so important to Kris that they open the dark world at the end of ch2 even in the timeline that you make Noelle murder Berdly"? Either Kris is looking for a solution that will literally turn back time or they otherwise have to do this to rescue someone they/others really care about, and in either case the motive points to Dess. Kris probably feels responsible for Dess being gone even though most residents don't see it that way. Rudy appears to quietly resent Kris about it.
>>741373685>really fucking long for what amounts to no narrative importance outside of Spamton (who is completely optional) and Ralsei explaining the roaring at the very end
was it really that hard to program the climbing mechanic and tenna minigames or are toby and his team the most disorganized incompetent game devs ever
>>741372663There's nothing you can do except KEEP WAITing. There's only a few days left, soon Chapter 5 will be in our hands
>>741374003I thought they were reworking minigames over and over.
>>741374003the latter, Toby literally had to hire a manager to tardwrangle his own ass or else he spends all day sucking jap developer cock IRL
I don't even play these games, I'm just waiting for more music to come out.
>>741373976I would imagine that Kris would care more about Asriel or even Noelle more than Dess herself, i dont believe Kris is doing all this shit for her
>>741373378Toby literally said Chapter 2 was the longest chapter, he knows.
one should not grab a Kris so roughly
>>741374003You people are such fucking lemmings, you just read a random claim and assume that's the truth. The mini games have literally never been the main constraint for dev time.Game development isn't completely linear. The reason 3+4 took a long time is most likely because they iterated several ideas for how the chapters played out and the first iterations were basically completely scrapped. You can get just a peek at this kind of thing from Toby's explanation of how the Holiday house segment was iterated in chapter 4. It was basically scrapped and rethought several times. That's how game development goes especially for someone making their "masterpiece" with unlimited time and budget. If Toby is dissatisfied with the product he can just start again. He has said he thinks the remaining chapters are more straightforward to do all this for because 3+4, especially 3, needed to successfully get us on track basically.
>>741372949Route dependent.
>>741374146The difference is night and day. Seems like every other week we were hearing about a new unrelated project he was contributing to.
>>741373765She's the Asriel of this game, that's her ultimate importance.
>>741374271one must be gentle with krisps
>internet out>tv is repeating broadcasts which is very weird because that includes the weather >weird goner shit happening in hometown >festival shit up around town implying the police taped off area isint the festival grounds >COPIES ARE MONOCHROME, BUT YOU COLORED US IN WITH CAREwhat if were in the copy of hometown
>>741373757Chapter 1 is only kino if you started with SURVEY PROGRAM
>>741374190Glad I'm not alone in thinking that. It's more to get Asriel's GF and Noelle's sister back more than anything else, while bringing everything "back to normal".
>>741374323explain all of them
>>741374190Well, sure, but Noelle and Asriel aren't trapped between the layers of reality and fiction after an incident involving Kris. And Dess was, in Kris's eyes, the most important person to Noelle & Asriel.
What if Noelle and Ralsei accidentally smoked slutweed. The weed that makes you slutty.
>>741374443I did and it's still pure anus, especially after any of the next chapters.
>>741374476>NormalFlustered. Coming to terms with enjoying the feeling, with a mix of barely hidden annoyance with having to get it out of her coat.>Weird/SnowgraveAlready so used to a lack of agency that instead it just gets her to drop to her knees.
>>741374190Dess disappearance appears to be the key turning point of things going to shit for him from Kris view>Asgore kicked off force>Mom and dad split>Asriel off to college>Rudy condition starts going south and Noelle's family similarly falls apartKid just wants things to go back to how they were in the good ol days
>>7413737573>4>1>2If you had asked me that question 1 year ago, I would have said 3 was my least favorite, and 2 was my favorite. The best part of the episodic approach Toby has adopted is that you can revisit chapters, and if a chapter holds up EVERY time I play it, then it is a really good chapter.Now, of course there's some caveats to this line of thinking. I really enjoyed Chapter 4 and 2 on first time playthroughs, not so much when I replayed it, that's when I started noticing some pacing errors, areas that were carried entirely by novelty rather than substance. Conversely, Chapter 3 is the worst on first-time playthroughs, but every time I replay it, I realize how tight-paced, fun, and well designed it is, I find that essence only really reveals itself on second or third playthroughs.Raise up your bat, the enemy designs, the overall "gameshow" atmosphere, the Zelda-inspired segments, Tenna, Ramb, the changing rooms, the bits of Kris's lore sprinkled throughout, the 1225 code in the machine, the use of 1225 as a parental lock system password., Toriel being held hostage, the Roaring Knight battle, Ralsei's mask almost slipping when Susie says "I hate people who don't tell the whole deal", the Egg room, LANCER, and its crowning achievement, the SWORD Route, which will go down in history as one of the best, most incredible, most well thought out section in vidya history.This is what vidya is all about.
These 15 days are unironically feeling longer than the whole year that led to them.
I can't even bring myself to play a game for the next week I'm just too hyped. I don't know what to do with myself.
>>741373884https://youtu.be/Thm9-b2fQrk
>this comic was never finished despite a continuation being promised after how popular it got
>>741373884Less than chapter 2, more than chapter 4
I still really don't like how there's save points in the overworld in Chapter 4. It's really not that bad to go back to Castle Town on occasion and I feel like it hurts the story to have this quality of lifeI feel like it just started because there was no way to save while in Noelle's house and it snowballed from there, but he should've let you just have Kris "quickly run back to castle town" if you try to leave prematurely, like what happens at the end of Chapter 4 with the beam of light
>>741374607>chapter 1 over chapter 2
>>741372023Kris's hung shota cock x Dess's unshaved cunt. A match made in heaven
>>741374709Chapter 2 is carried by the Weird Route, cam on.
>>741374584>it just gets her to drop to her knees.for an incoming blowjob I hope
>>741374190If you believe the Knight is Dess than he's clearly emulating her movements, plus there's that girl he was playing with in his childhood. He probably does care about Dess this much, she seems to be his punk rolemodel.
>>741374690sensible folks will disagree
>Dess has literally NEVER been confirmed to be an hot brown deer>Toby makes her a worse looking Noelle for the shits and giggles>Total meltdown over /v/
You only like Chapter 1 the most if you think tardwrangling Susie isn’t annoying
>>741374690It bothers me much more that you can't return to the main menu while in hometown
>>741374868Remember that Tenna was better than every fan design.
>>741374868If anything she'd be a black deer.
>>741374271Human must be taken care of carefully.
>>741374934Only because of the 3D model thing, if you remove that his design is kind of blander than some of the fan designs.
>>741374607I'm gonna be honest, I have no clue how people can stand Chapter 3 on replays. I just did it to prepare my savefiles and as soon as I finished the first board I was already wishing that it would end. I just cannot stand it, it's almost everything I hate about Deltarune put into a single chapter. There are some good moments, Tenna is a fun character, the Knight fight is cool, but aside from that, I hate it.
>>741374753Correct.
>>741374868I'm betting on Black and Blue Dess, I might accept Black and Red
>>741375038>implying SWORD Route wasn't the most kino shit we had so far
>>741374898>tardwrangling SusieAND Lancer, despite being a giga soulful character, he can be annoying as hell
>>741375038>I'm gonna be honest, I have no clue how people can stand Chapter 3 on replays.It has the least amount of shipfaggotry so it’s for 120+ IQ men like me
>>741372023Tranny game tranny audienceBunch of fags lol
>>741375038you can blitz through the two boards pretty quick if you know what you're doing, and getting all the bonus objectives pretty much guarantees an s rank even if you fuck up a little the real drag is the doom board, which is scripted and goes on far too long
>>741374868>Total meltdown over /v/incorrect, it would make me laugh and mock all fags who thought she would be hot
>>741374868This could still be good, most Toby designs are better than fanmade ones.
>>741375038Not sure if you did, but try T ranking Susiezilla twice to get perfect saves on both normal and weird route. That shit made me rage so hard.
>>741375121
>>741374868>Toby makes her a worse looking Noelle for the shits and gigglesAnd I would still suck a fart out of her asshole so hard her eardrums would get ruptured.
>>741375106The sword route itself is mostly fine but for me it got very tiring having to play it after already going through board 1 and 2. And I hate the Eram boss fight.>>741375189Oh hell no I absolutely hated the physical challenge minigames, the worst part of the chapters by far, I was dreading them when I replayed it because I thought I would fuck up badly enough that my overall ranking wouldn't be S, luckily I managed to avoid that.
>>741373757MANTLE was kino though
Who should I draw once the chapter drops? Perhaps some new slut is revealed maybe I should wait...
>>741375121>>741375289Those aren't boobs, btw, she just tucked her balls all the way up to her chest.
>>741375419The entirety of Chapter 3 was lvdokino, you're just replying to a sub 95 IQ pleb.
>>741375421Ralsei doing this would make sense thanks to the tunic
>>741374898I mean u just warn enemies for a while and bada-bing bada-boom Susie's retard flailing is effectively worthless
>>741375038Is every human just fucking STACKED like that? But Chapter 3's main quality is gameplay, it's the chapter with the most fun gameplay loop versus all others. That's why I don't mind replaying it so much, with 3 you can just get into the meat of things faster.
>>741375421Wait to draw the next weird route rape scene.
>>741372023>Kris was actually the molester Wtf did tobby meant by this?!?
>>741374868surely he WOULDN'T
>>741375289I tried to AI animate this and it turned Noelle into a literal onaholehttps://litter.catbox.moe/feqcj8.mp4
>>741375146Based Chapter 3 chad
Why do people want to fuck Dess SOOOOOOOOOOO BAAAAAAAD when they haven't even seen her How is the mere concept of Dess that sexually irresistible to people
>>741375514BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED
>>741375831KEK
>>741375753
>>741375831
>>741375876Because I like to imagine myself as a little boy getting molested by an attractive girl older than me.
>>741376020Why do you think Dess did that?
Bald, balder yet balder...The crown keeps growing...The hair getting thinner...Testosterone readings negative.This next supplementSeemsVeryVeryInteresting...What do you two think(in response, the balls shrivel in despair)
>>741376086I don't actually think she did that, it's just a fantasy.
KRIS AND DESS ARE SIBLINGS
>>741372023Leaks? Doubtful.The ARG mails go out 24 hours before release, though, so we'll have something to chew on. I hope you guys sent in some good answers to "Where will it happen?"
>>741375876For fucking real. It's insane how the UT/DR character with the most people drooling over her is the fucking character that hasn't had a single actual appearence yet.
>>741375514>>741375831>>741375906>>741376131Immaculate deltathread, sasuga.
I forgot what I have to do for weird route
>>741376241>I hope you guys sent in some good answers to "Where will it happen?"I didn't even participate, I didn't do it the first time to I didn't get any of the following emails.
>>741373301Oh, yeah. That was pretty funny.>Penultimate fight to the death in the skyHilarious title for Air Waves, which was just used in a funny bonus room
>>741376291Theres a gay Animal Crossing thread right now.Why are you not complaining about that one.
>>741376241Don't worry. We (each and every one of us) all said the ferris wheel.
>>741376131k-k-kino...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRnlPWTBpJsWhich leitmotifs do you hope appear in ch 5's soundtrack?I hope we get more with faint courage
I saw a UST a while back that had the Vessel and the Knight as the party, I don't remember if the song was any good, but that was a cool image. Does anyone know what video that was?>>741374868Part of me hopes she isn't a sexbomb, because then I'd be even more jealous of Kris than I already am.
>>741376261Dess is not THAT popular bro. She isn't the most lusted over.
>>741376220So she's an incestuous groomer instead? Ticking off all the boxes before fucking off to the Abyss, what a girl.
...
>>741375387https://files.catbox.moe/5icbsg.png
Last time when the soundtrack leaked early someone thought it was fake because it had no Toriel songs what wrong predictions do you think we'll get from the next batch of song leaks
>>741375783Kris is NEVER the molester but ALWAYS the molested, dude.
>>741376669this was used to concuss kris in the past
>>741376646Hell naw, I hate when I'm walking in the night and find a fucking nigger behind me.
>>741376698No Asgore/FRIEND songs.
>>741374272They probably workshopped the rest of the chapters by now, so it'll progress faster assuming no backend issues, but I was honestly expecting 5+6+7 to come out together.
>>741376738it was their favorite toy
>>741375906whats happening here
>>741376706people tend to forget that kris' role in the prophecy is 'the raped'
>>741376020BASED!
Soon we will proceed Noelle again
>>741376646>>741376740Don't worry, Frisk is the type to rape Sans instead.
>>741376357it was affectionate
>>741376863Fiction's most raped girl.
>>741376020She did not groomed anyone
I drew
Hypothetically, say it turns out the question>how long did it take her to smileis actually about Kris and not Noelle.How big would the fan meltdown be if the they=multiple people theory gets confirmed?
>>741377254is that the rapesword
>>741376863I'm Toby Fox and I approve this message.
>>741377279And let me add that I have a good reason for this: Noelle actually has happy sprites and isn't fucking miserable like Kris. I don't know why people seem to think the question is asking about Noelle. It doesn't make any sense.
>>741377279dumb and unrealistic. kris is never going to be refered to anything other than a they/them
>>741375146>It has the least amount of shipfaggotryI severely doubt a weeb as big as Toby didn't know about the "indirect kiss" and "accident pushes [x] ontop of [y]" trope when he was writing those gamer room scenes with Kris and Susie.
>>741377254I don't know what's going on here.
how did toby craft such a perfect rapebait character?
>>741376706Liar
>>741377410He was raped himself.
>>741377279The meltdown would be gigantic but there's no way it isn't about Noelle.
>>741377279The Heteronormative interpretation of the Weird Route is destroyed immediately. Only to be replaced with one that puts Noelle in the husband position.
>>741377410The power of [JAPANESE DISCOUNT CARTOONS] and [King of Eroge Championship 1999]
>>741377385>Noelle actually has happy sprites and isn't fucking miserable like Kris.You can give fake smiles. Look at the difference between her sprite in the DW and the LW.
>>741377254i see the penis
>>741377465Probably by Andrew Hussie while he was living in his basement
>>741373378Chapter 2 had a truckload of enemies, bosses, locations and plot events to justify it's length. Chapter 3 is a slog with barely any gameplay substance.
>>741377460>Implying Susie isn't going to rape him here
>>741377509>Heteronormativefuck off
>>741377612Agreed. I never had problems replaying ch2, especially on the Weird Route, but ch3 was so dull I had a big 'thank god I never have to do that again' feeling when I finished it.
>>741377509>Heteronormativefuck on
>>741377612Maybe if you're some kind of scrub who throws himself in a Z-rank trashcan to get in the back room.
I think Kris and Dess bonded over feeling alienated, or at least that's how Kris felt seeing someone else who seemed to reject norms
>>741373685>complaining that the content that was awaited for 3+ years was too long
>>741377460SAUCE????
>>741374690He should have just let you save on your CELL PHONE
>>741377325NoThis is the rape sword
>>741378349Okay that's pretty freaking funny.
>>741378349I just snorted my drink out from laughing, fuck you
The reason why development is taking so long is because Toby is building up to when we fight Susie again + Ralsei down the line and he has to account for every single possible equipment combo (you didn't beat the game unless you beat Justice Axe/Jevilstail/Dealmaker Susie NEO)
>>741374868She's almost definitely going to be Deer Vriska.
>>741378349>[RapeSword]>Also fuels Noelle's bondage fetish. Sturdier than her bed. Extremely unwieldy.
>>741375387There was some /ll/ stuff posted last thread. Do you know the actual artist?
>>741378349>"strap me to the twisted sword and swing me into the bunker. I am ready"
>>741377254hi drew
Go away.>>>/vg/
Finally some leaks
>>741378712*pisses on the floor*
>>741378707The jannie will sweep us out soon(You) just have to WAIT
>>741372159Toby's probably going to be all over Materia after last year's stunt to prevent that shit from ever happening again, especially with how secretive he's been with Chapter 5.
>>741374641Same. I can't focus on shit and I don't want to do shit. I just want to play the game and be free to shitpost and speculate.
>>741372023Are NoelleKNighters ready to get vindicated?
>>741378738*puts hand on your shoulder* hey man, I don't know what's going on with you, but you need to take it down a notch.
>>741378753toby can't even stop materia's CEO from picking fights with random deltarune accounts on xitter
>>741378349based
>>741378838>"SHE WAS 17 YEARS AND 364 DAYS OLD YOU SICK FUCK" - Sebastian Wolff
>>741378812this just proves it's Dess to me.
>>741378812yeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4ctIP2N88M
Anyone have the rest those files from 2022, that one ch5 leak with Noelle and Kris as kids and they fed a rotten pumpkin to her I mean if the chapters out in like 6 days might as well post them
>>741378707>stop talking about this video game that's getting a major patch next week!>don't you know how many coombait and GTA6 threads you're pushing off the board!?
I just want to have a happy date with Susie.And then i want to see her being sad and left out on the Weird Route
We better be plapping Catti while jockington watches.
>>741372023sexoooo
>we finish chapter 5>see you in chapter 6,7,8>2029!what would you do?
>>741379068Oh, I really want to see the interaction with Kris giving the ice cream from Ralsei to Susie.
Does anyone have that "leak" of that one guy about the chapters 3-7 that had the chess theory on it? I want to see how that will hold up with chapter 5.
New Deltarune soon.
>>741379143>8
>>741378812Noelle isn't the knight. It's one of the other Holidays. Why do you keep posting this retarded shit?
>>741376706FTFY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNNy1Olof8EWhy did it take 7 years for a good version of The World Revolving with lyrics to exist?
I'm close to finishing up my perfect run of Chapter 3 and I just remembered that Ralsei, the fuckboy twink who knows the whole prophecy, has no idea what the Northernlight section is supposed to beChapter 5 Weird Route is going to be absolutely apocalyptic
>>741378753We just have to wait and see but I don't think Toby is that powerful. Maybe he got stronger during this year, though.
>>741378986It's okay because he was calling a tranny a pedophile here.
>>741379143There's not gonna be a chapter 8, at least not on the chapter select menu. We're POSSIBLY going to get a chapter 0 at some point though.>>741379567You didn't fix anything, that guy only posts jpg files to twitter so your bloated 4MB png is useless.
Why are deltarune threads the best thing on /v/? They feel so genuine and comfy compared to the rest of the board.
hikikomori Dess vs cool older sister Dessyour call
>>741379567Why is she holding her crotch?
>>741379609>has no idea what the Northernlight section is supposed to bekek imagine getting played this hard by a goat
>>741379789We discuss a vidya gaem instead of culture war bullshit and [current thing].And jannies still delete it despite it being the only threads in this entire shitty board talking about a vidya gaem on the vidya gaems board
>>741379770>You didn't fix anything, that guy only posts jpg files to twitter so your bloated 4MB png is useless.He changed Kris’s male symbol to female.
>>741379789Because everybody in these threads is either a high-functioning autistic or mildly schizophrenic. Those have always been the best threads.
>>741379791somehow both at the same time
>>741379791Neither. I think rebel/fuck up/black sheep Dess is best, with Noelle being the prim and proper sacrificial daughter Carol wanted.
>>741379789A lot of it is just frens having fun and discussing the vidya when there's no schizo shitflinging. Meanwhile the entire board is the schizo shitflinging.
>>741379957...oh. That was subtle.
>>741380064I think rebel Dess classifies as cool older sister
>>741380171It's closer to bad influence than cool, imo
>>741379597It still remains to be the fucking family guy merging shitpost.https://youtu.be/QZ8A63GHLvY&t=40Seriously repeating words with that tune is too damn effective, how has no serious attempt at it copied that?
>>741379163counter this videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-pOlvieT-0
>>741378495>Justice Axe/Jevilstail/Dealmaker Susie NEO)That sounds kino as hell.
>>741379531>>741380405
>>741380248The Roaring Knight one is better, but he's also had a year to improve his shitposting.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh9zvDmYK-o
>>741380273Whump's an interesting fella
>>741378495>Justice Axe/Jevilstail/Dealmaker Susie NEONo Shadow Mantle to counter Kris's Black Shard?
Toriel doesn't have to know
R as in Robert Loggia
Lice Magic
>>741380405>>741380474I watched five minutes of this faggot and he meanders too goddamn much and wastes too much time just talking about his headcanon instead of hard evidence. I'm not watching an hour of that.
>>741379789/v/ is only useful for deltarune threads
I like the idea of Dess having a slightly abusive aggressive relationship with Kris that exploited Kris wanting to be "cool like her", but I don't want her to actually be a pedophile
>>741379791whichever one Kris would be more attached to so probably cool older sisterfollowing up on that I can't imagine the seethe Kris will feel when (you) have to do the heavy lifting to save dess
>>741378349I think I remember some anon describing this, and the item would be equippable by both of them, Kris and Noelle taking turns in being stuck to the cross
THE FORBIDDEN PATH BEGAN WITH ROBERT LOGGIA
>>741380818Coward.
>>741378528Guess we know how Megalovania is showing up again then.
>>741380818>slightly abusive aggressiveI liken it to the idea of petting and playing with a puppy slightly too hard, but still well within its bounds.
there are people who had to use a revive mint on jackenstein
>>741379791Smelly nerd Dess is most likelybut cool sister isn't out of bounds, I don't think Toby is the type to Subvert Expectations (the Mike shit is just a gag lol)
>>741380818She's not going to be a pedophile outside of Implications. DR is now Family Friendly Nintendo Slop.Radiation no longer exists.
>>741381227Those aren't people. They're subhumans.
>>741381232It's common for kids to have an idealized view of the older kids around them. Even if Dess was kinda lame, Kris would probably think she was the coolest.
>>741380479He tried too hard and stopped being funny.
>>741381313*ahem*Xenoblade 2.
>>741381381Nah.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSMe-q-O9G8
>>741380738it make more sense than making "missing girl" not actually missing but hang out with Kris as an agent of Carol
>>741381410Xenoblade 2 IS family friendly slop. Japan has a different standard of family friendly slop.
SHE'S IN
>>741381313True but it's still a fun headcanon to have.
>>741381227They shouldn't have let him die then
>>741375421noelle
>>741381531
>>741381531Touhou winning bigly.
>>741381313>family friendly>implications
>>741381313The rape is still in there, and all Toby did was change the graphic. We can still get pre censor groomer Dess kino unless Toby got spooked by having to censor it for ch2.
>>741377460She wanted it
>>741381658Yes, implications can be family friendly. That's why they are implications and not explications. So adults know what the deal is, but it goes over the heads of kids.
>>741373378The two boards + three mantle minigames + actual TV World makes Chapter 3 feel as long as 2 even though I know it shouldn't be on paper
>>741380818When she was around ahe was probably 16 and kris 10 so she wouldn't be considered a pedophile also people who sexually abuse minors aren't usually because their attracted to them but because they wanna abuse their power
>>741381870>No
There is no proof Dess gave a shit about Kris. We only know that she beat him up whenever Kris messed with Noelle and that Kris thought she was the cool one in the group. That's all.
>>741381639would toby really tell hussie the finer details of deltarune? seems like a liability
>>741373970
>>741381931aaaaiiiiieeee
>>741381531There's going to be at least one boss song with the Battle Against a True Hero ZUN trumpets, I am not ready
I bet we're going to see more family members of the Light World NPCs at the festival except for Jockington's (because he's a Gaster plant that nobody questions how he's here)
>>741382069I love the zunpets
>>741381967For whom is the song raised up your bat for then?
>>741382109Soccer balls are basically just oversized eggs when it comes right down to it
Noelle likes people who are mean to herKris likes being a dog and possibly liked being beat by DessRalsei likes people stepping on himWhy is everyone in this game an absolute freak?
>>741381996the 25th of december is christmas (krismas), yes
>>741381969Some parts probably, he explicitly consulted Andrew about developing the Holiday manor segment of ch4, so it's reasonable to believe Toby's talked about other parts of his game with the guy who is at least in some senses his mentor. Nothing in those messages confirmed or deconfirmed anything, Hussie clearly knows where the boundaries are with Toby. He even expresses that he got Toby's permission to shitpost about it
>>741382117dess knew the prophecy. that song was for (you). it explains why Kris hates you so much. everyone likes you more
>>741381967Dess only cared for Kris as a prey.
>>741382183In real life most people are kinda freaky in some way but you don't get to be a thought-reading heart demon in real life.
>>741382403I can't wait for an actual dess reveal so all you moldessterfags die out
i still don't trust ralsei, i just know he's going to pull some nagito shit
>>741382502No, I think that's been pretty much ruled out after his chapter 4 breakdown. Ralsei knows too much and still isn't sharing it, but he's definitely not a Nagito.
>>741375387I need her to fuck my ass until I cry
>>741382502It's been spelled clear as day that Kris is the traitor of the group
>>741382564you don't know what his knowledge is going to lead him to do
>>741382117asriel
>japanese dark world and festival day>most of the fandom is schizophrenic>everything goes to shit around the festivaltoby i dare you to use the river we hang out with susie at as part of the festival
>>741382502It's funny how everyone seems to have ditched the notion of Ralsei becoming an antagonist. Even though his bedroom happens to be at the end of the chapter boss corridor.Everyone just seems too caught up in the idea that antagonist Ralsei has to mean evil Ralsei, Ralsei is prime anti-villain material.
>>741373301Plap that Kris
>>741382502I can't see Ralsei pulling a Komaeda after Chapter 4.
>>741382665>kris is the traitor of the group>who has secret conversations with ralsei behind your back
>>741382790Ralsei being an antagonist (or at least fighting him) isn't ruled out, but him being a villain is entirely ruled out.
>>741382595Kris...
>>741379567Based...
>>741382502I think Ralsei is a babysitter put there by the conspiracy team to accompany the fun gang through the dark worldsIt's why he's a healer and he knows the prophecy and everything
>>741382870you can trust Kris
>>741382226its because noelle kept searching "december holiday missing" and it spat out christmasthe calendar is her search history
>>741382774the story that uses fantasy to anthropomorphise inanimate objects would surely never reference when they cry
mfs will look at this and go "completely platonic"
>>741376407I fucking love the motif used in the fountain theme, and I'm intrigued the only place it pops up again is in Flashback (Excerpt). It clearly represents something big, and it'll probably become more prevalent the further we get.
>>741372023>chapter 5 releases>finish it in an hour and a half like the others
>>741383086It is but I understand the average 4channer would have trouble seeing it that way.
>>741383112THE HOLY appears in a few more places than thathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63ehbOZTByQ
>>741383086they just like the smell of their shampoos, don't be a weirdo
>>741373884>DID YOU ORDER THE SNOWGRAVE?>YOU'RE DAMN RIGHT I DID!
>>741383229>post schizophrenic theories for the next yearIsn't it F U N?
>>741377279>efw it's actually about Carol
>>741383086It comes off as a joke scene more than anything. Very Suselle core.
>>741377695>Pretending like scoring high in the mini games is some hardcore gamer featThey're just not that good or worth deviating so heavily from the main Deltarune gameplay, and that goes double on repeat playthroughs
>>741383248You're right, they just saw too many animes and mangas where scenes like this happen between couples.Good thing the writer isn't one of them dirty weebs, right?
>>741383229>see you in 2028 :)
>>741383086>How am I the Weird Route here!?
>>741383258Reminder that THE HOLY is literally just Gaster. Treating it as something separate is nonsense.
>>741374868>dess comes back>shes fat and pimply and hideous and has no horns
What if Dess only groomed Noelle.
>>741383449noelle and kris are both canonically the sort of person susie hates, kris just doesnt suck up to her as much
>>741383486I don't think anyone would forgive Toby if he made Dess an Alphys-type character.>>741383529But that'd be forbidden love...
>>741383486As long as she groomed Kris and fisted his asshole she can look like whatever Toby wants
>Casually does more damage than a rude busterHow much is this nigga holding back?
>>741383529What if Noelle groomed Kris...
>>741376698I predict that we won't get real song leaks this time and the fake ones will be identified by Bone Trousle
>>741383562>I don't think anyone would forgive Toby if he made Dess an Alphys-type character.He would have my eternal respect just for the amount of seethe he would create on this board alone. I can't even imagine how plebbit would react.
>>741383606Don't forget too that Kris' damage starts exponentially increasing during the Knight fight if the other two are down.
>>741383650>I can't even imagine how plebbit would react.think its a win over the chuds for some reason act like they really like her and then pretend to not understand why no one draws fanart of her or like her
>>741383562The forbidden love began with ice magic.
>>741377279even if this was Toby's plan he would never do it now, the backtracking of the weird route chapter 4 imagery proved that he cares too much about what people think
>>741383606Kris just HATES tv
>>741383606I think our protagonist simultaneously resisting our choices and holding back out of spite is pretty kino
>>741383615This will happen if time travel is real.
>>741376859https://wimg.rule34.xxx//images/4141/97bc71122ee3d294c0040a0f4bf51cb52cc8e007.pnghttps://wimg.rule34.xxx//images/4752/1cb9c769cffe2b2f450f8812739bfdaded3747e9.pnghttps://wimg.rule34.xxx//images/4752/9c7c1a9cba002cf22293d69230e878e01e9d2d34.png
>>741383053They cute
>>741383725Shit, can't argue with that logic
>>741383417wrong
>>741383053I DESPISE KRIS
>>741382226you WERE paying attention to Berdly's spelling bee story, weren't you?
>>741383765First one's the best
>>741383529She needs to groom both.
>>741383081Honestly it'd super funny if toby referenced Umineko, I can honestly see the dog use "without love it cannot be seen" considering it has a VERY different context in undertale lingo
>>741383606What was the explanation for this again? It happens after you do the sword route, although it's not because Tenna confessed about making a deal with Kris, since even if you abort it right there, the flag for the extra damage remains false.The flavour text going to the "he's quite fragile" out of nowhere is also weird.
Dess groomed Asgore
If I was dess and I'd see how fucking mischaraterized I was i'd kill myself
>>741383903Well I doubt he just received a zenkai boost from defeating Eram.
WHERE IS FRISK
>>741383903Kris is mad about (you) seeing a side of herself she didn't want anyone to see.
>>741383817yesbut nobody in game has outright said she's missing the arg stuff certainly implies it, along with the rabbricks, but fact of the matter is nobody has come out and said it outright we're at the half way point and we still have no idea if dess is actually supposed to be important or not, because toby has failed to make it clear
>>741384041>mad at (you)>takes it out on someone elseMost convincing female-Kris evidence that I've seen so far.
>>741384036She's in my bed sorry.
>>741383606>Kris does more damage than Rude Buster with basic attacks + has X-Slash in his pocket>Ralsei one-shotted the Gerson statue>Noelle needs no explanationSusie is WEAK
>>741383921Is there anyone Dess hasn't groomed?
>>741384036Asriel YIIKed all over them and is currently fighting AUs of himself or some shit the YIIK plot was retarded.
>>741384219Pizzapants
>>741384201>Susie is WEAKNow hold on, she's the only reason I managed to beat the Knight.
>>741383903Kris got his violence tendencies reawakened by Eram.
>>741384157Also how embarrassed Kris gets when handing the knife over to Susie.
>>741384201>Susie is WEAKI would like to see you say that again once you're required to tackle the Susie boss fight and she absolutely rapes you even worse than the knight.
>>741377612>Chapter 3 is a slog with barely any gameplay substance.This but 4, the pleb magnet of this game.
>>741384246I can't believe Frisk is a dead asian girl...
>>741383903Kris knows you're planning on challenging the knight plus tenna spilled the beans on the two of them making a deal and by extension revealed Kris was working with the knight to (you)
>checker board area in chapter 1 has unused themeFarther cements down CH1 as the best one in the gamehttps://youtu.be/-0ikAw14UU0
>>741383903don't losten to the other anons and their retardationKris is mad at Tenna (game Tenna technically) for spilling the beans
>>741384538Oh my god, Gerson is green.
>>741384312I wish, but realistically speaking Toby isn't gonna make an required fight very hard like duh knight. If there is an even harder battle, it'll be something optional.
>>741383606>How much is this nigga holding back?If undertale logic applies here, A LOT
>>741383606>>741384201Reminder that Kris uses pencils and shit as weapons in the darkworld but the sneaky cunt literally carries a large kitchen knife that's probably a legendary saber of giga-death but he keeps that shit HIDDEN. Like 90% of the lightners are sandbagging.
>>741384538Yeah, Deltarune is the creation Gaster fell into.
>>741384201susie is the healer you dingus
>>741384703>kitchen knifeIt's not a kitchen knife, kitchen knives don't have guards
>>741384547game tenna is tenna you tard it's just tenna's avatar
>>741384346NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOUR DEAD SISTER NOELLE I JUST WANT TO JACK OFF TO VAGUELY ETHNIC ASIAN GIRLS
>>741384703it's a megadildo he keeps in his ass
>>741383606A lot, he's got X slash and a knife that would probably hit like a train in the dark world and Ralsei has his fire magic, literally everyone but Susie is holding back
>>741384618if you rearranged the letters in oberon smog you get WD Gaster
>>741384703remember that susie can also do upwards of 300 damage in ch1 against lancer, and noelle is said to be extremely strong in ch2 even outside of the weird route
>>741372663well that's too damn bad!You're not getting any actual conclusion until 2028 anyways!
>>741384782That's even better than a kitchen knife, wow.
>>741384762>susie is the healerermmm actually she's the Red Mage and that's why Rude Buster becomes Red Buster
>>741383229If you finished any chapter of deltarune in 90 minutes you are cringe as fuck and skipping like 60% of the game
>>741384974if she's a red mage, where's her raper?
>>741372693>the door closing sound effect is the title drop AAAAAA
>>741384703it's a megadildo she keeps in her ass
>>741384703It better turn into one of these or else toby is a hack
>>741384782Are there weapon shops in Hometown? Who gave Kris that? Holy sus
>>741385085what do you think the twisted sword is?
>>741384703>but the sneaky cunt literally carries a large kitchen knife that's probably a legendary saber of giga-deathYeah BLACK KNIFE is quite powerful in the Dark World
>>741385161I don't know, what are the knife ownership laws on Boston/New England (where deltarune is canonically set)
>>741384789I'm Toby Fox and I say this is canon.
>>741385182that's not twisted
>>741385207How did a knife carry undyne all the way to the bunker?
>>741372023Going to replay the game again before it comes out. Finally clear the knight.Wonder if I should do the weird route...
>>741385356I don't believe it but it's almost certain that the knight has accomplices no matter who they are
>>741385207I don't think the Knife can carry the Knife.
>>741385356Rudy deniers always ignore or avoid this question
Kris' knife is Ralsei and I stand by that theory because it's the only way that it would make sense for it to not be inventoried
>>741385537Ralsei is the locket. Friend is the knife.
>>741385356It was night outside so it was sorta in a inbetween state like clopen
>>741385379You need a normal file and a weird file, else you'll be spoiled to infinity when you come back.Do a twisted sword one just to be sure.
>he still thinks it's only a single knightThe entire town is in on the conspiracy at varying levels of awareness. The knight themselves is actually three different lightners who use the same equipment.
>>741385594>everyone got so caught up on the knife and eeevil chara and shit that they forgot chara also has a BFF heart locket
>>741385356Here I'll go ahead and tell you the real problem with my theory. The knight retreats into the main church hall and yet the knife is still on Kris in the church lobby.
>>741384789imagine if we saw a YIIK cameo if toby didn't get scared of the controversywhich is funny now that I think about it since he is still friends with omocat and hussie
>>741385698The Knight is a shared Holiday Darkner that represents the family's want for Dess to returnAnd also Kris because he thought she was hot
>>741384201>>741384703Ralsei is 100% not a healer but a fire(ball) wizard like all the Toby goats. Screencap this.
Dess is Kris's knife
>>741385698No luck catching them knights then?
>>741385665Yeah.Only problem is I'll probably have to overwrite my original save. As I missed the knight and Starwalker
>>741385774i mean he could be bothtechnically the first thing toriel does in undertale is heal you (and delete flowey's pellets)
>>741385786how did the knife enter the 3rd sanctuary while kris had the knife on him still?
Just played chapter 5 early, honestly, of all the things that I could think off, I never expected THAT scene with the soul having sex with the roaring knight.
>>741385909anon please answer me, is it true that the vessel was fucking dess in the bunker?
>>741385909I wouldn't have even minded that much if it wasn't for the knight tentacle raping Kris.
>>741385909it honestly spent too much time on the ralsei cock reveal
>>741385909it was mostly fine but the 3 hour unskippable sex scene between asriel and dess was a a weird choice
>>741385909The 5 minute orgy scene in the middle of the festival got kind of boring after the third battle, but the lore implications are astounding
>>741386054Noelle and Kris both being forced to watch was kind of cool though.
>>741385818Everyone can heal, but fire magic is the goats main talent.
>>741386054what bothered me about the scene wasnt half the town running a train on dess but the point where gaster showed up, told me to "make your own game if you dislike this so much" before continuing
>>741386093what if they started fapping together haha
>>741386142What is this anatomy
>>741386142Toriel doesn't have breasts let alone torpedo ones
>>741385714I think the locket is also referred in the Sweepstakes as a Noelle item, but yeah, everyone forgets about the heart shaped locket.
>>741384703>that's probably a legendary saber of giga-deathi personally believe this and im suprised noone has drawn kris with a huge buster sword that crackles white with power and does like 200 base damage
Ralsei will give birth
>>741385909dang it I wanted the first holiday my vessel to have sex with to be Noelle!
>>741386142with tits like that you have to imagine how big her cock is
>>741386142Toriel does have breasts let alone torpedo ones
Saw some Xitter posts criticizing Chapter 4. It was always odd how it seemed like the golden goose.
>>741386296...to a new empire, by goat monsters, for goat monsters!
You're all joking but the last update had a rape scene with Noelle. Dessex is not out of the question.
is noelle getting unraped?
DAILY REMINDER>THERE ARE TWO KNIGHTS>THE ROARING KNIGHT >THE SILENT KNIGHT
>>741386423the rose was already replaced with some cucky mental breakdown crack so
>>741386505Rudy and Carol
>>741386423The final redpill about Noelle is that you can't rape the willing, especially the willing who's into fearporn and creepypastas.The doe is a freak.
>>741386423>>741386527
>>741386423Impossible.
>>741372023SIR PANT,EATING THE SKYBASKETBALL.. . .....
>>741386593I would join if I was fatgore
>>741386559>your picrelshe is 100% schizoboarding her own theory (See >>741383057)
Just saw a coworker of Toby's referring to him with they what do we think of that.
>>741386559
>>741386691The fag ship sailed when he wrote Ralsei in ch1 I don't really care as long as he keeps making good games
>>741386691Who cares?
Will Chapter 5 address the Holiday bottled water conspiracy?
>>741386559Noelle acts like a sweetie but the second she got a chance to do some sado-masochist stuff she leapt at the chance
>>741386856>the microplastics in those bottles slowly giving Kris breasts and shrinking his penisDEVILISH
>>741372023And then another 10 years of waiting for more underage teen drama bullshit? No thanks I have had enough of autism coded characters with undertale.
the pre-chapter 5 autism is nowhere near as good as chapter 3the WAIT really was something special, huh?
>>741387125people are afraid to go full schizo with their theories since the game is much more different than people expectedblame patternfags
WHATS IN THE PIPES??
>>741387125Now imagine how it will be after chapter 5
>>741372023I’m afraid you are too late. There have been leaks already. Have you seen the Toby Fox Onionsan leaks.>le leak spacinghttps://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/740960471/#q740960471
>>741387125Knowing the year made the wait feel worse and also the doomposting is getting a bit annoying, theories being killed probably contributed to that
>>741387235>people are afraid to go full schizo with their theoriesyes but this is 4 channel you can schizopost then immediately samefag to call yourself retarded but nobody does it, we just get avatarfags
>>741387007>the last thing Kris' virginity sees
>>741386979Many parts of the game make it a point how Noelle is a pervert into bossy women and fearporn, feeling pain and torturing others.
>>741387125There used to be way more blank space on the paper to fill with possibilities but chapter 3 and 4 filled in so much we don't really have room to play with anymore.
>>741385774>>741385818>>741386142>ralsei is shown to be able to do fire magic>implication is he's been keeping that spell hidden from you because he wants you to pacify enemiesBut wouldn't he have dropped that act when you were fighting the Titan? Where he wanted you to fight and and was desperate to beat it?
>>741387436
>>741374476upset that some would drop on to her sweater. she'd try sucking it through the fabric for sure.
>>741373976>Rudy seems to resent KrisHe's just got a sinking feeling is all.
>>741387436many people also misunderstand that noelle craves the comforting after being afraid rather than the feeling of fear itself
>>741387505
>>741387436>3rd oneI miss when vidya glitches were cool instead of just being purely frustrating rushed games
>>741387460titans are a farce. he only freaked out because he needed to tell (You) the only way out was to [Figh]t because you are too Undertale brained.the entire "Prophecy" is just set dressing to railroad (You) into what's actually going on
>>741387560It's both, the safeness and the edge. Light side and Dark side.
what a whore
>>741385774That's a good looking Toriel, sauce?
>>741387560See >>741387565and the like.Noelle accidentally got into the SWORD route for a certain game and just kept on playing the game even while trying not to start sobbing at how scared she was.She just kept going.And she's still curious.
>>741387560noelle has a dark and twisted side that you just awake at the end of weird route (ARG confirms)
REMINDER NOELLE TORTURED HER virtual CAT PETSNo wonder friend fucking hates her
>>741387460The knight has an unused fire attack
>>741387747>noelle was the one who goner'd Dess
>>741387767That's meeeeeewgenics!
>>741387780she's saving it in case she needs it later
>>741386505>not the silent knight and the holy knight
>>741387125>>741387235>full schizoIt was just spamton crap. That character is finally in the rear view mirror (thank god) so I'd say the theories are much better. Also toriel/house theories none of which went anywhere. You're romanticising it.
>She's in
>>741373301>King of Rolypoly and Ol' Jitterbug in the last leak>People thought the secret boss was a caterpillarkek, good times. To be fair though, the music names did spoiler Hammer of Justice, so I'd still watch-out.
>>741387808Half-tempted to mod Dr. Beanies into Noelle after all this is over.
>>741387393Actually dr-philips-cdi does exactly that a lot.
>>741386563Fucking hot
>>741387906it was mostly chess theory and people thinking we would get 5 more chapters of that before the knight finally appeared at the end of 6 and we fought the titans in 7
Kris doesn't trust us, but does he trust Susie and Ralsei?
>>741387747REMINDER
Can someone remind me what all the enemies in the Mantle game represent, especially those white mask things
>>741387125Having only a year of WAITing plus 3 and 4 killing a lot of the theories does that. Reminder that most of the schizophrenia only happened after the Sweepstakes, a year during the WAIT.
>>741387906>spamton crapdude was a gigaknower
>>741381870Sounds great.
>>741388127They seem to represent the inhabitants of Hometown (excluding Sans).
Susie will walk with me
>>741387907Damn that's a BIG woman.
>>741388134Why is Frisk naked?
>>741387436I will never not be angry about the hypocrisy of how noelle is treated. If she was a man, people would treat "him" like Mineta from MHA or Kamoshida from Persona.
>>741388225For (you).
>festival starts>is pic relatedhow do we react?
>>741388109No, because he keeps secrets from them. Maybe only when Susie finally knows the truth.
>>741388267Nah, but there would be a lot more jokes about how pathetic he is. And also the rape jokes here wouldn't exist or it would be about reverse rape or something.
>>741388267I call it Alphys privilege.
>>741388267Tricky tony is subverting shipfags by making it secretly toxic yuri.they want susie away from noelle for susie's sake
>>741388267We live in a gynocracy, women have top tier PR and thus get away with tons of shit that would be cringe and pathetic for a man to do.
>>741388338>NahHow do you think the internet at large would react to a scene where a male character makes up some lies so he can stare at the ass of a female character?He would genuinely be called a sexual harasser.
>>741387907>ch 5 is gastersokyo
>>741388229Why wouldn't she?
>>741388109>susieyes, almost certainly to an immense degree>ralsei less clear, but kris and ralsei do try to send (you) away to talk about shit at least once a chapter
Why doesn't the sword stay chipped if you win the fight?
THE WORLD REVOLVING is still the best track Toby's ever composed, and that was released almost a decade ago, and finished a few years before that. Is he washed?
>>741388408Only a loud minority would say that.
>>7413884832knights(lmao)
>>741387436That's just how the average early 2000's nerdy girl was.
>>741387125People are too convinced they know the direction the story is going in, hell they might even be right, but it's resulted in any theory trying to suggest an unforeseen twist being seen as trying to be contrarian.Chapter's 1 and 2 were way more open about what's going on making crazy theories more fair game.
It will turn out Dess died in an accident and it was Noelle's fault that's why her mom is busting her psusy over it.Screencap this
>>741388127Board 2 is obviously the White Cloak (Noelle) and the blue bird she freeze's (Berdly).Board 3 has>White goat throwing spears surrounded by yellow flowersAsgore>Yellow Lizard and Gray fish mini-bossUndyne and Alphys>Cat faces that attack after you kill the purple singing catCatty and her family>Shadow goat mimicking your actions that's secretly a deer spriteDess and maybe Toriel.There's also the room packed full of white goats that's harder to understand. Some people think it represents a large gathering or Toriel and Asriel.
>>741388483tobias forgor
>>741388483It's magic and can regenerate.
>>741388267If she were a boy he would be based because he would be into femdom
>>7413885092 cat
>>741388483Because Chapter 3's Knight is Dess, Chapter 4 Knight is Rudy. Unironically.
>>741388546>There's also the room packed full of white goats that's harder to understand. Some people think it represents a large gathering or Toriel and Asriel.That spot is the school so it might be castle town (you will kill all the darkners there)
>>741388267if susie were a dude you’d see so much complaining about how he’s constantly cucking kris
>>741388568I quite don't like this image. could you quit posting it
>>741388609>the only evidence for rudy knight is rudy making a comment about something he would know due to being a family friendwow, so this is the power of auraful writing?
>>741388267It's fine because it makes the weird route hotter, it would have been another yaoislop otherwise
>>741388501A lot more than you'd expect. When it comes to any modern work, people despise male perverts. They will straight up vilify them and write about them being arrested or beaten up or humiliated or just generally destroyed.Noelle would be DESPISED if he was a man>completely obsessed with a girl>constantly trying to get closer to girl>chokes out someone because he said he liked said girl>pervs on girl at any opportunity possible>puts down friends if it means looking more available to girlNoel would get branded as a "nice guy" incel within 3 seconds of chapter 2 releasing. But because she's a lesbian, oooh it's WHOLESOME and CUTE and VALID.
>>741388667No.
>>741388609nagashiiiii
>>741388630Isn't it closer to the small apartment block n the side of town? You know, the one where Susie and that one rabbit kid live at.
>>741388732Solution: make Noelle (Noel) a hot twink lusting after musclehead Susie (Sam)
>>741388607>2 cat2krislmao
>>741388568Wtf where's the text? How can I say my catchphrase now?
>>741388732not enough people give noelle flak for constantly staring at susie's ass whenever she gets the chancewe know she does it too because she keeps mentioning susie's tail, which susie hasn't even mentioned to kris yet because she's insecure about it
>>741388430It's nowhere near as dystopian as Gensokyo.
>>741388657I'm already complaining that she takes too much protagonism even if i like her tbsqh, i will actually be mad if she takes the lead in ch5
Noelle literally just acts like a typical /sus/fag
>>741388837I forgor, sorry :(
>sharter 1 crapIt’s TV Time! alone clears.
>>741388267it's because heckin patriarchy and men were always bad so now it's time for revenge for women
>>741388869Gensokyo is dystopian? Maybe to outsiders who wander in, I guess...?
>>741388937>chapter 1 card castle commodore graphics>surely this will be upgraded when it's not a demo
>>741389035That shit was fucking awesome and part of what gives that chapter its identity is the sparseness. I'm glad the rest of the game stepped it up but I think 1 is fine.
>>741388950Dystopian if you are a retarded secondary grimfaggot, I guess.
>>741388929It's okay. I missed one of your posts before so I guess we're even now.
>>741388950It's to everybody.To human villagers it's basically a slightly nicer looking version of a concentration camp. To youkai it's a brutal society of might makes right. Only the powerful and strong are happy.
>>741382502Dude might've had his breakdown, but I guaran-fucking-tee he's either going to betray us for kris, or betray kris for us.
>>741388839That's because, like everything else related to Suselle, it's automatically demed as a good thing because it's gay.That's it.Nothing Noelle does to susie can ever be bad because it's gay and gay means wholesome and good. It doesn't matter how shallow or obsessive her crush is, it's gay and that makes it cute ;3 and valid :)
>>741388609>someone who goes to church>knows the mayor>also has something to do with the copsIt's kinda crazy how much people overlook these lines. Especially when they point to Asgore.
>>741389110you forgot to make a new thread with your shitty bait post
>>741388950>Humans wandering in are food>Humans born within gensokyo face the death penalty if they become youkaiYes, just your anti-youkai sentiment showing through.
>>741389093It's crazy that this became the biggest Undertale-related meme since Sans.
>>741388609This but 3 is Carol.
>>741383053I will never trust Kris
>>741389152I'd cook and eat my fancy fucking shoes if Asgore pulls the "Old friend" bit again before suiting up.
>>741389134What the fuck are you talking about? Do you think true mortal struggles happen on the regular between Gensokyo residents? Do you not understand what spell cards are, or are you in denial about it?
who do you think the knight is?
>>741389172And Toby hates it lol.
>>741389284It's me. I'm the Knight.
>>741389284Amalgamation
>>741383606He's got the True Knife in his pocket.So, a shitload.
>>741389172>there will be a cringe reference to bergenTruck
>>741389159Only if they become youkai on purpose.Marisa proves that it's perfectly possible for humans to have every bit of power youkai can, most just choose not to live that kind of lifestyle.
>>741389284Carol.
>>741389401(You)
>>741389284Coughing man.
>>741389284>at the end of the calendar, mom>don't kid with me, your sister won't talk to me like that!
>>741389378didnt toby censor the truck memes in the anniversary stream?
>>741389345I don't think he hates it per se, he just had the chat for the anniversary stream moderated because he wanted the stream to be an event for the people that took it seriously. Same reason he donated a bunch of his own money to keep the fallen child's name Chara. He doesn't hate Togore he just wanted the new dialogue he wrote to be spoken to Chara.
>>741389395To be fair I think it's stated plenty of times Marisa would be fucking dead if not for the spellcard rules not allowing murderWhich is why Junko actively trying to kill you is really cook
>>741389284Most likely: RudySecond most likely: December's soulless body
>>741389378>>741389492>the rest of deltarune ends up being so cringey and bad that people ramp up the truck memes deciding that asgore running over dess is way better than what happens in the actual game
>>741389284dess, at least in some form
>>741389510Yeah, she's a shining example of how the spell cards rules give humans equal enough footing that youkai can't suppress them through raw power, but in a way that youkai continue to tell themselves they hold the advantage anyway. Everybody is happy.
>>741389284Kris knife with Dess dust
>>741389159>humans wandering in are foodPlease tell me they get shrunk and vored
>>741389494Him hating Togore and loving Chara is way funnier so that's what I chose to believe.
>>741388483Toby is lazy
>>741389283>Do you think true mortal struggles happen on the regular between Gensokyo residents?No. But human villagers are essentially livestock. The human village is effectively a anarco capitalist society where rich people can do whatever they want. Only stopped by the possibility of being murdered by Youkai if they go too far. Youkai aren't murdered. But stronger and smarter Youkai do still walk all over you and this is seen as perfectly normal.
>>741388556>>741389756correction********temmie is a shit tier sprite artist
>>741389714No, you get torn apart by a little girl.
>>741389284A device in the Shelter.Damn, man, these Captchas.
>>741389284I think it's Rudy's cancer or Dess
>>741389818Counterpointhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnTBYK031nc
>>741389836Is that so?
>>741389802That isn't a fucking concentration camp. Humans who explicitly have no talent for magic can get to a level where they can be equals with those supposedly "untouchable" Youkai. Only Marisa does it because nobody else feels any need to play at being the equal to all the powerful Youkai.
The Knight having static like it's some sort of hologram is something i haven't seen discussed
>>741389693>>741389802Meanwhile outside of your grimtard wank in the canon works:
>>741379791Dess being a hikikomori is impossible considering how characters describe her.
>>741389818>>741389756>>741388556if this was the case he would've just updated the game to reflect it, he wasn't afraid to do that when it came to the flower or the furry degenerate line. it has to be intentional
>missed a Dess flavor threadfuuuuuck dude
>>741379791Alcoholic loser with a beer belly and whiskey dick Dess
>>741389997The knight's physical form is already amorphous, otherwise there'd be no point to it becoming a sphere when it dodges. It having a holographic disguise is kinda putting a hat on a hat, no?
I will never play any Touhou game ever
>>741390068It took him months to delete closet Kris.
>>741390071
>>741390071I used to think your pic was canon but an anon recently pointed out to me how Kris hid "piano tutoriel" in their search history in Queen's mansion which made me wonder if instead, Kris learned piano because they wanted to be more like Dess but Dess herself wasn't interested in teaching them.
If Dess is the knight, shouldn't she have had more of a reaction to Ralsei?
>>741390030>Youkai are born out of the dreams and imaginations of the people who fear the unknown.>The dark worlds give life and personality to the objects and ideas of the fountain maker, their fears manifest into unstoppable monsters.>Gensokyo is a sealed off place, only accessible by piercing the veil and being spirited away.>Dark worlds may only be accessed by piercing the earth, and being consumed.
>>741390157Dess played guitar.And for SOME REASON,Only Kris is known to play piano, at least well enough to be part of the church choir's instrumental.AND FOR SOME REASON.The biggest piano in town is in the Holiday home.
>>741390280Ralsei would presumably something Kris & Dess created through their knowledge of dark world mechanics to serve them faithfully. Ralsei has talked back to Susie but the only time he EVER talks bad to Kris is if you won't attack the Titan, and you can interpret that as him trying to ask the player. Besides that moment, Ralsei is practically sycophantic toward Kris.
>>741390280Fuck thatWhy is Dess doing any of this bullshit if she's the KnightI hate this headcanon bullshit everybody has come up withIf Dess is a mindless fucking zombie and that's supposed to be a cool writing decision then Toby Fox should kill himself immediately
>>741390370Toby could easily almost one to one do omori's plot and I hope he does 'cause it'd be funny.
>>741390282Hi Uboa
>>741390440She's not mindless, but she's not completely herself either. She's roughly as much herself as Flowey was Asriel.
>>741390440Don't forget being puppeted by Kris' original soul while her soul is lost the code while also somehow being herself too
>>741390030Reimu is the equivalent of Maria Antoinette saying "Let them eat cake" when told of starving peasants unable to make bread.Recent manga have shown it to be a classist society.>>741389993>Only Marisa does it because nobody else feels any need to play at being the equal to all the powerful Youkai.Marisa does it because she knew the right people. Even then it's pretty likely she was taught by Mima, who is a extremely powerful magician.Your average human villager isn't a magician because the knowledge and means to become one are lost.
>>741390440>Why is Dess doing any of thisThe crux of DessKnight theory is that1) Dess and Kris know the prophecy2) The prophecy implicates somebody they care about will be killed by fate3) They are working to alter this within the bounds of the prophecy. The obvious answer as to who they're trying to save is Noelle, and the obvious answer to "who is taking Noelle's place as scapegoat" is Susie. This is also why Weird route is about Noelle and strengthening her. It's either to fuck over Kris and put Noelle back into the going-to-die girl slot of the prophecy, or it's an alternative attempt to save Noelle by making her strong enough to subvert the prophecy or something like that.
>>741390551Then why is she dead silent and floaty and all that bullshitFlowey never shut up but Dess is acting like a fucking weirdo for no reason?
>>741390567>Marisa does it because she knew the right peopleRinnosuke? Every human villager that's got it into their head to make money off of outside world scrap they can't tell the purpose of knows him.Mima isn't canon anymore, and when she was canon it wasn't even clear Marisa was fully human.Your average human villager isn't a magician because they think the concept of fighting youkai is fundamentally scary, regardless of the rules.
>>741390682Utterly correct.
>>741390567>Reimu is the equivalent of Maria Antoinette saying "Let them eat cake" when told of starving peasants unable to make bread.Fucking kek you are beyond retarded>Recent manga have shown it to be a classist society.Ok you are just shitposting then, always good to be reminded that grimniggers are not people
>>741390762>RinnosukeAs well as Reimu.>Mima isn't canon anymore,She probably still is going by ZUN's own words. >Your average human villager isn't a magician because they think the concept of fighting youkai is fundamentally scary, regardless of the rules.Because they are brainwashed livestock ruled over by malicious rich people and evil youkai.
>>741390113Without Touhou there's no lolicon Toby, so you must play it.
>>741390440Why would she cause the roaring when that could put Noelle in danger, is she stupid
>>741390440the only explanation for the knight's motive at this point is because 'prophecy said so'this is one of toby's weaknesses, be backloads all the actually important shit so nobody can figure everything out too early
>>741390682Then why would Ralsei especially not let IT happen?
>>741390696Because I said "roughly", not "exactly". I don't know what exactly happened to her. Nobody does. But the point is the knight is definitely not just a healthy, normal character in their right mind.
>>741390782>Ok you are just shitposting then, always good to be reminded that grimniggers are not peopleWhat? This very panel literally shows that even a place like Gensokyo still has Romeo and Juliet tragedies. That a place like Gensokyo is as much, if not more, mired in the same kind of classism that Japan has today and in the past. Class exists, poverty exists. Knowing that, to what extent is it any better than modern Japan? What is positive about it? The existence of youkai that they hate? The existence of gods they no longer need in the outside world? Magic they do not use? This panel also makes it pretty clear that if you go outside the human village you are taking your life into your own hands.
>>741390113Same
>>741390887Susie reading the prophecy assumes she's the girl with hope crossed on her heartRalsei wouldn't let it because he's the kindest most heroic person she knows.
>>741390839And much of the human village knows Reimu too.>Mima is still canonYeah, right. Sure. I believe that. Not! She's gone without so much as a single reference for 20 years and both of the two other characters to actually make it out of PC-98 acted like they were new anyway.>the villagers are brainwashed!The average person brainwashes themself.
>>741390887Cuz he thiks susie is the girl and not noelle
Dess's appearance isn't getting revealed, expect lore dumps about her disappearance and the subsequent investigation and Asgore's side investigation beating a dead horse after he got fired as chief of police.
>>741391046oh come on anonyou know it's a flaw in the theory.you're obviously going to close the dark worlds or they're going to be split from light worlds forever
>>741391087No because the lead up to the final prophecy says>To save the WORLDSAnd the crest is shown with one of the triangles destroyed. It's not subtle.
