So did Dragon Dogma 2 nerf these two vocations or are they still piss easy to play like in the first one?
why would they nerf them
/v/ told me 2 was bad so I didn't buy it so I don't know.
>>741394513It's a single player game anon.
>>741394513Magic Archer is so fun to play you don't care if it's a bit OPAnd besides you can always make it harder on yourself by going for immolate memes
>>741394513magick archer is strong but I dislike how to feels compared to DD1, and assassin straight up doesn't exist they split the knife and bow vocations into separate things. Thief(daggers) is pretty sweet to play, my favorite vocation in the game.
>>741394513I played the entire game as Warrior because I'm not an arrow slinging sissy or dex faggot. If you played through the entire game as warrior you actually did beat the game.
>>741395840>you actually did beat the gameNobody cares. This game is a joke difficulty wise. The hardest part is not getting bored and moving on before hitting the real credits.
>>741394513Assassin isn't in DD2. Thief is OP.
>>741395840idk man, judging by the webm either your class is ez mode or the whole game is, regardless of class
I hate how easy everything is in the game. Pawns infantilize the game after a certain point and the only fun I had with them was in my first playthrough. Also after hitting level 50 everything just falls over, game needs a hard mode badly.
they nerfed loli pawns so I dropped the game
>>741395983>play like a tryhard faggot instead of trying to kill things in funny waysNo wonder you hated it.
>>741394513First of all, they removed dual weapons. Actually that's it, you can imagine the rest. The update I want to see most now is no pawn restriction for vocation so we can finally free the mage slot. DDO nailed this btw, can't believe we're back to this shit.
>>741394513dd2 is piss easy even if youre blind and deaf
>>741394513DD2 took every hybrid vocation, deleted the repeat skills (except for Mage for some fucking reason) and the classes that were too tiny got added onto other classes. DD2 haters hate when I bring this up. I hope DD3 merges Trickster and Mage into one class. Warfarer fixes that of course.>Mystick Knight -> remove repeats -> Mystick spearhand + Magick Archer + Sorcerer, get new skills>Assassin -> remove repeats -> Archer + Thief, get new skills>Magick Archer -> remove repeats -> Sorcerer + Magick Archer get new skills (dagger skills become arrows)>Ranger -> remove repeats -> Archer get way more skills
>>741399350Mage is op in DD2
>>741399204Who are you quoting, retatd?
>>741400071Solo Mage is actually very interesting. It inverts the game, so now you can only travel at night, because daytime is too aggressive and nightime is full of undead which are weak to holy including healing.
>>741400071>Assassin -> remove repeats -> Archer + Thief, get new skillsThat's Strider. Assassin has no equivalent in DD2 nor are its unique skills anywhere to be seen in either Thief or Archer.
>>741400146I don't care if mage is OP or weak. I just want to play with another healer beside Mage.DDO solved this by having 3 healer vocations. Each with pros and cons. Plus, they gave elemental enchantments to tank vocations. Which sounds weird at first, but this frees up so much for Mage (and healers). 4 skill slots worked in DDO because of this logical design.
I installed the simple tweaks mod and made the game harder and better.
>>741400478>Literal disinfo.Warfarer has it, but you'll cope. "Four skills instead of six" even though we're getting six in August.Intimate Strike -> FighterPowder charge -> ThiefClarity -> ThiefGouge -> FighterWindmill Slash -> Mystic SpearhandMoving Castle -> FighterFlight Response -> ThiefStaredown -> TricksterBack Kick -> ArcherWind Harness -> MageSnakebite -> ThiefArcher slop -> Archer
Very annoying to have dual-classers reviewbomb the game only to ignore warfarer as a concept.
>>741401078>Warfarer has it, but you'll cope.Has what? Assassin is a Fighter/Strider, Warfarer is the everything class with its only unique skill being the weapon swap, which isn't present in DD1.Also some of those skills you're listing are Strider and Fighter skills skills, not Assassin. Though some I'll give you, even if they're functionally different in 2. My point remains that there is no fighter/thief in DD2 unless you count the one that's technically everything. I'll cede that I should have said "several of its unique skills".
>>741401441Assassin was the Warfarer of DD1.>Also some of those skills you're listing are Strider and Fighter skills skills, not Assassin.Name literally one.
>>741401441You must understand that there are no hybrid classes in 2 anymore. The dual color just means it's arisen only vocation now (warfaggerfags need not reply).The closest thing you have to Assassin is probably Mystic spearhand, a class with both melee and (limited) ranged abilities.This is The Vision™
>>741394513I one-shot the final boss of DD2 with Magic Archer so yeah it's really strong
>jew sees burning heart (christian symbol) on box art>makes it his life's work to slander the game
>>741402505The ult is the gayest skill in the game. At least with the MS shield and the Thief autododge you can just not use them and not miss out on much, but here you either slot it to nuke something you don't even want to fight or just don't use it because it's not worth the max hp hit.
>>741402695>final boss of DD2Ebin larp
>>741402653yeah, can't believe that itsuno guy would do such thing. baka fucking head.
>>741402787>he doesn't know RaghnallWho the larper now
More like dragons pawgma
>>741401692>Assassin was the Warfarer of DD1....except it can't use more than half the vocation's weapons or abilities. So a strider/fighter. Not like warfarer.Back Kick and... wait shit, looks like I misremembered. Thought Back Kick was Strider, not Assassin. I went and checked and looks like I was wrong on a lot of the skills I thought weren't Assassin skills, my bad.>>741402295Saying "there are no hybrid skills in DD2" is agreeing with me. I wasn't saying there SHOULD be an Assassin equivalent, I'm simply saying that there isn't one. You're mistaking a flat statement for a criticism of the game.
>>741402695Doesn't help that it's the only way to damage Golems as MA.
Magick Archer in DD2 is so busted it can take down the "final boss in about 2-3 seconds. It can also take out any major enemy in about the same time, like a Cyclops or Magick Golem. The AoE power on it is also busted as it hits in a large area, so everything in the area dies in 2-3 seconds. It's fucking stupid and shouldn't have been included in the game. You can just choose to not use that ability, I guess.
>>741402912I just don't get why warfarer is somehow an issue. You get to decide what you're going to use in-game. Aside from skill slots being four it just seems like cope.
>>741403059I don't get why you think I'm saying Warfarer is an issue. I'm just saying it isn't Assassin.
>>741403113Nta but it has bow+sword and assassin doesn’t do anything special so who caresAssassin doesn’t add anything to the game
>>741403113I misunderstood your post in general, it just seemed like a random complaint with no actual argument.
>>741402912Honestly, I wouldn't be so harsh on warfagger if they at least took the effort to make your character wear all equipped weapons at all times, like those promotional pictures.
>>741403347>I heckin love clipping
>>741403261>delete this
>>741403347>>741403369Should have limited it to 3 weapons because 9+ is retarded, then implemented alternate sheathe spots to prevent clipping. Not hard.
>>741394513the entire game is massively easier compared to 1 and archer is totally ruined
>>741403192Okay? That's your opinion. I'm not stating an opinion, I'm stating a fact. There is no fighter/thief/archer hybrid in DD2 like there is fighter/strider in DD1. There's warfarer, which is fighter/warrior/thief/archer/mystic spearhand/mage/sorcerer/trickster, not fighter/thief/archer. It's an umbrella vocation, not something specific. The other guy is right, Assassins skills got spread around, rather than being in a specific melee/ranged fighter hybrid.>>741403264Because it wasn't an argument. A guy said Assassin was split into Archer & Thief, which isn't true, because Archer + Thief is Strider. Assassin wasn't split into anything, it just had its skills moved into many of the other vocations. This is simply a fact, I wasn't trying to make a point about anything by stating it.
>>741403369As a veteran Skyrim enjoyer, I FUARKING love clipping. Okay, but for real. I can look past the clipping, because I'd look cool as shit casting magick with a greatsword on my back.
>>741403534>assassin isn’t in the game>but you can recreate the playstyle with warfarer and many of the core concepts are spread around other classes>but it’s not called assassin!Ok
>>741395840looks like a musou kek
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>>741403617You can recreate any playstyle with warfarer. You couldn't do that with Assassin. It wasn't designed to be an "everything" class like warfarer, it was designed to be a fighter/strider hybrid and it had unique skills that leant into that. Warfarer is not trying to be that, warfarer exists so you can say "oh, I'm gonna drop an Anodyne at my feet before I start charging up a Skyward Sunder", "I want to to pop my Augural Flare with Sagittate Avalanche", "I'll haste my pawns then buff them with that Trickster skill".
>>741402980Its less that the class is stupid and moreso that elemental damage is calculated to always do bigboy damage. You absolutely annihilate shit if you have elemental damage.
>>741403261>dragoon
>>741403534>Assassin wasn't split into anything, it just had its skills moved into many of the other vocations.
>>741403865There is a point where I’m tired of hearing about this bullshit. Imagine if people talked about FFTA and every single fucking thread>ummmm where is Mediator?
>>741404312Yes, DD2's Thief is the dagger skills from Strider and Assassin. DD2's Archer is the bow skills from DD1 Strider, Archer and Assassin. The difference is that while Strider's niche was split into two classes, Assassin's niche was spread around 4 different classes, resulting in no clear equivalent.>>741404434I don't care what you're tired of, retard. I'm not saying I want Assassin in 2. Is it impossible for you to read words on a screen without thinking you're trying to be convinced of something?
>>741404609skill issue.
>>741404609>im not saying i want assassin in 2 im just saying i want an exact equivalent and it doesnt count unless it can only do those things >wHeRE mediAtOr I don’t care that this game doesn’t have Brave and Faith I want a human gunner omg
>>741404768>im just saying i want an exact equivalentPoint out where I said I wanted anything in any of these posts.
>>741404806What are we playing stupid or something? Fournival isn’t in DD2. This has equal value as saying assassin isn’t in DD2 if you don’t care.
>>741405080Correct. I'm not the one freaking out over it.This discussion is basically>the sky is blue, not green>what, you want it to be green?? get over it, already>huh? I was just saying the sky isn't green, it's blue>UGH I'm so sick of you faggots demanding the sky be green>I just said that it's blue, not green>then why do you keep asking for a green sky???>when did I ask for a green sky...?>STOP PLAYING STUPID
Guys, shut up, who even cares.
>>741405251>sodium chloride isn't salt
I want alchemist so badly in the dlc.
You pick Freelancer or whatever the fuck it's called and spam Splitter and Ninefold but who cares really because the enemies all have pants shitting downs and don't do anything but chase their own asses because 2 is kusoge just go play DD for the 500th time
>>741405670Enemies are just as retarded as 1. The most I'll give 1 is that Cyclops in specific grab in front of their face a bit more.
