>character is worried about people thinking hes gay because he likes sewing>real life "fans" think hes gay because he likes sewingIt's like ludonarrative resonance but one level higher
>>741399817Gays are always worried people will think they are gay.
>>741399885As they should. Keeps them away from my asshole.
It’s mostly just tumblrfags that think he’s gay and naoto a tranny
>>741399817Real life fans thinks he's bisexual because he gets aroused from staring at the main character in his underwear but he wants to marry the reverse the trap.
Ostia tio, la disonancia ludonarrativa!
>>741400267>because he gets aroused from staring at the main character in his underwearThis didn't happen btw
>>741399885>Gays are always worried people will think they are gay.No they are worried about coming out, not if people think they are. If people thought they were, it probably would make things easier. You're a retard.
He had a crush on naoto when he thought she was a boy
>>741399817>real life "fans" think hes gay because he likes sewingno
Nobody thinks he's day because he likes sewing, nobody cares that he likes sewing.People think he's gay because he likes Naoto before he finds out she's a girl.
Yusuke is bargin bin kanji
>>741403379>>741402265>hes gay because hes attracted to a woman
>>741399817>game has an entire message about accepting yourself to become stronger>it's praised by the entire group who do anything but accept who they actually areso ironic it loops back into hilarious
>>741399817Be ready for the remake to censor and tone down a bunch of the dialogue.What kind of retard gets excited for a worse version of a 15 years old game?
>>741403439Who he thought was a boy
>>741402265because naoto is obviously just a girl wearing pants instead of a skirt
>>741403471Still a woman. It's like how being disgusted by a tranny dressed as a woman doesn't make you gay.
>>741399817She is so based, the cast in this game is so based. I hope they dont get wokefied.
>>741403471"why am I attracted to this boy?" stops being a gay question when said boy turns out to be a girl
>>741403563yeah Kanji is probably happy to learn tomboys exist and they are good looking af.
>>741403537Of course it's going to be woke. You can't tell trannies that they should accept their sex instead of wasting their life cutting their body and taking pills.
>>741403471Just like in Mulan the captain is still gay for liking his soldier even thought it was a woman
>>741400267Yeah I assumed he swings both ways
>>741403592Dropped if they wokefy it. I shall pirate it.
>>741399817well that and the gay bath house
>>741403642>retard is going to play the worse version of the gameWhy lol just play the original
>>741400267>>741403613I assume the same, people are so retarded thinking that he is gay or hetero that they forget BI people exists
>>741403471Only because the other men he was hanging around with were fooled. Kanji could smell the female on her and is super straight.
>>741403613>what that boy is cute af wtf!? (because she is a petite woman tomboy)>do I like dudes?>nevermind its a woman that has the sense of style I'm into she looks sexy af in her police uniform>aaah now I get what I'm into>basedI dont see the problem. He just didnt knew better.
>>741403597not the same at all. the captain didn't have a crush on Ping.
>Leftists have looped back around to 1980s style homophobia where even looking at another dude makes you gay.Total chud cultural victory.
>>741400329>implying anyone wants to come out or be thought off as gay in places where gays are treated like garbageMost gays want to come out as gay in friendly and benevolent communities that won't hit the back of their head with a bat or mock them the second their head is turned. Everyone else either sleeps with an eye open and/or would rather not leave ambiguous heterosexuality
How woke is this remake going to be?
>>741403753The Left lost when they stopped supporting Israel notice how they got disowned and they cannot get to be seen as the "heroes" anymore. It was all Corporate and Jew aid. They are nothing without capital, without money.
>>741403537I kinda do. These are different times now, and it wouldn't hurt if Kanji was a little gay. People who bitch and moan dont even matter since homosexuallity existed since the original game. Heck Tetsuya and Jun were totally gay and that was back in 1998. I mean, they even made Superman a little gay for Jimmy in the latest cartoon. Except for like five or six chuds on the net, ppl really dont care anymore.
>>741403537>I will never change from a man to a womanwhat will this say in the remake?
>>741403781So woke, dude. Kanji will be a romance option and everything. My uncle who works at Atlus told me.
>>741403902ywnbawstfukeep the dialog the same.
>>741400314Explain the nosebleed.
>>741399817>ludonarrative resonanceI don't think I KNOW OP is gay.
>>741403912>but like I cannot change from they/them to was/where xir/xer fae/faer
>>741399817Nobody has a complete mental breakdown questioning their sexuality because they enjoy sewing. He is a massive faggot he just can't admit it because they will kill you in rural japan.
>>741404023You too for posting radcliffe.
>>741403673Quite true.
>>741403923They're going to censor lines. That's enough of a red flag for anyone who isn't a retard.
>>741399817>whole arc is about how he struggles with his sexuality because everyone pins him as gay for his interests, but grows to ignore them and be his own man>retards irl clock him as gay because he doesn’t conform to common male standards and push this narrative >Naoto is about how hard it is to be a woman in a male dominate work environment so she LARPs as a boy with boyish hobbies to be taken seriously>Realizes that she’s allowed to be a woman and still be in a place that’s considered “for men” >Retards will push that she’s trans because of her “masculine” characteristics I don’t give a shit if these people are young. They literally perpetuate the negative coping mechanisms these characters have and ignorantly uphold gender norms without even realizing it because of their stupidity. Shit pisses me off personally because I work in a male dominate space and I witness real woman be looked down upon and underestimated purely for being a female in the “wrong job”, just like Naoto does. Years later and these dipshits still don’t get the damn hint. Fuck them. I feel so bad for anyone who struggles with this, because clearly society hasn’t changed much, even if people try their hardest to act like they’re better by being all performative about gender fluidity and acceptance
>>741404105harry potter and the final solution google it
>>741403982>Explain the random nosebleed when there are women in swimsuits around that he was conspicously turned away from and also he got kicked in the face by Chie the night beforeGee...
>>741404103Can someone explain why people are obsessed with naoto being trans kanji being a fag but no one does this with chie or yukiko over the knight line in her dungeon? The story explains explicitly what's happening on the screen.
>>741403647>well that and the gay bath houseHow do people bring this up so rarely when they discuss the character?Even if the other shit suggests that he isn't sexually defined by his secret hobbies and interests, his dungeon being literally the gayest shit ever and him at the end of it just sort of going "yeah yeah I know" and accepting that it's some part of him is hard to read as anything else than him accepting that part of him which he didn't like but was already well aware of.But then, he doesn't act in other ways that would suggest the same thing. You can choose to say you'd rather see his swimwear instead of Chie's/Yukiko's and he doesn't think anything of it, like nothing suggestive enters his mind, while the closet case Yosuke freaks about any potentially gay shit as usual.
>>741404171Bro you just like puppetry of the penis. You're a fag.
>>741404272You have to understand that for gay people, it's more about tearing things down and ruining things for others. Straight men would enjoy Yukiko and Chie being bi. Thus it's not enough. Kanji MUST be gay. Naoto MUST be trans. Because straight men enjoy those characters and their arcs.
>>741404121Yeah lines such as "Well, you do seem to be great with your hands -- Um, never mind."
>>741404272what knight line
>>741403537At first I doubted they'd change this, but seeing that the bothered to remove a random double entendre from Yosuke about "being good with your hands", that doubt is disappearing.
>>741403912
>>741404272Naoto dresses like a ftm and Kanji is horny for a what he thought was a boy. The fact that he didnt know it was really a woman doesnt matter.
>>741404397localizationbros... this isnt whats supposed to happen... they are supposed to be made gayer
>>741404315>How do people bring this up so rarely when they discuss the character?Do they not? I tend to see people pointing that out though at least once in a while. Whenever this discourse inevitably comes up again.>while the closet case Yosuke freaks about any potentially gay shit as usual.Fucking this, exactly.
>>741404272>but no one does this with chie or yukiko over the knight line in her dungeon?Women who become close friends have sort of relationships where they care exactly this much for each other. Sure if men do that for each other it'd be called gay which is why men are a lot more subtle about even the strongest of friendships.But nah two girls clinging to each other like that doesn't really mean they're being gay, it's normal behavior for women.
>>741399817I hate that the Japanese are not subtle about their messages at all yet fags and trannies latch on to him and Naoto and call people media illiterate for disagreeing
>>741399885If only
>>741404315Bath house = fag is one of the oldest tropes in Japan. It's where all the gays meet under the guise of getting a nice steam in and then blowing some dude. Kanji dreams of going to the bath house and acting out his desires.
>>741404693I think men not being allowed to be super close to each other without it being called gay is more of an american thing.
Imagine if this cute boy (female) walked up to you and asked to get to know you better. Would you not be questioning some things?
>>741399817Worrying about being gay is gay.
>>741404862This.
>>741404786could foreigners still do this hypothetically?
So Kanji is 100% sewing the team flashy new outfits for merch like the new battle outfits in Reload.
>>741404272Notice how the trannies almost always reply while avatarfagging with empty words
>>741404854I'm bi so I dont care either way.
>>741404848It's just a byproduct of misogyny and homophobia. Is it really that different in other parts of the world?
>>741404397Why did the face portrait get worse? His neck looks fat.
>>741404937I wonder, the outfits are not on the cover like P3R so maybe, i also wonder if they will have battle outfits in P6
>>741404651>Do they not?Seems like it's always between his reaction to Naoto or his hobbies.>>741404786>Bath house = fagRight, it's hard to interpret the scene any other way even internationally. But then his behavior otherwise just doesn't seem to suggest him being gay or bi.If he likes men he's so cool and quiet about it that it's genuinely hard to tell.
>>741404862it's funny to see how many zoomers are on this site. Back when after school specials were still a thing the creators would also put in the line like "Just because this happened to you, it doesn't make you gay" kanji the youngest of the group worrying he'd be perceived that way is totally normal thing .
>>741404937That would be neat. But if they were, surely we would've seen it by now right? I remember the new outfits constantly being shown off during P3R's marketing.
>>741399817>10 more years of kanji and naoto discourse
>>741404894It's probably possible but you'd need to know which bath house is friendly to that kind of activity and know the signs you need to give to others in the bath house to initiate sex. But gay culture is probably similar everywhere, they seem to really enjoy doing this shit in public places.
>>741404848It's a modern day thing. Men stopped being like that because it was seen as gay or whatever, but it happened around the world at about the same rate.
>>741405008They spent so much time improving the line work that they forgot to add proper shading. If they actually added some then the new portraits would 100% mog the shit out of the old ones
>>741405071Its enough to keep us up till P6 release
>>741404862Yes. And like >>741404848said, it's a very American thing. With America also being one of the more openly gay countries makes the straight men in America EXTREMELY gay for letting gays affect them on such a psychological level.
>>741405059>Seems like it's always between his reaction to Naoto or his hobbies.I guess the bathhouse and the dungeons in general are harder for people to explain to someone outside of the context? Or perhaps it more so focuses on Kanji rather than his shadow to make it less complicated? Beats me.
>>741404848>>741405176Having a close male friend is not considered gay in america. You would have to be all over each other 24/7 to raise some eyebrows.
>>741404974I think being labeled gay doesn't have that much power and control over someone as much as it does in America. Being gay in America is like being part of a political group, have certain beliefs, and you gotta behave in a certain way as well. Its way different then everywhere else. Like in the middle east where fucking boys actually happen to happen on the regular, just dont act flamboyant and you'll be fine kinda thing. It manages to exist in a society but its not nautral.
>>741399817People think he's gay because he was getting stiffies from Naoto while he thought he was a guy
>>741399817As a 31 year old boomer all I can see is that fucked hairline...
>>741399817He's still a fag because he still has crushes on dudes. >had a crush on Naoto thinking he was a guy>makes Yu and valentines day gift>wants to touch Yu's abs completely unprompted>In PQ during the marriage quiz, if Yu gets Kanji he gets depressed if you pick the negative/against it options>gets hot and bothered by Akihiko in Arena>admits he still likes to think of Naoto as a dude in Arena>in the blazblu crossover, he imagines two dues went off to have sex after hearing someone else say "they went off to have some fun together"
>>741405332i took finasteride and saved mine in time because i noticed the balding pattern early
>>741399817It's not that he just likes sewing—his parents run a textile shop—it's that he enjoys cute things. He doesn't want anyone questioning his masculinity for liking cute things though, so he shuts that all down by acting as vulgar and manly as possible. People automatically linking a guy liking cute things to, "He must be gay" is what made him question himself to such an extent in the first place.
>>741405124Not really. Americans always overestimate their influence on the world. I bet some american homosexuals think they also freed thr world from homophobia with their LGBT parade antics and propaganda but outside of their country didnt even notice.
>>741405340>>741405325Except Naoto wasn't a guy. And doesn't look like a guy. It's not an instagram filter were naoto actually has a square jaw and an adam's apple.
>>741404967>telling a woman you are biinstant woman repellent btw just say you are straight retard
>>741405070Game isn't out for another 7 months.
>>741399817How retarded and lacking in media literacy must someone be to believe Kanji is fucking gay? The game literally blatantly points out that he isn't gay and that that's not what his character arc is all about kek.
>>741405479>And doesn't look like a guy.Well in game she does
>>741405501Why do you care?
Surprised I don't see Rise get debated as much as Kanji and Naoto. I'm glad though.
>>741404595it does matter it makes Kanji feel justified that his feelings were not wrong all along because liking your same sex is retarded it means you wont reproduce and you are a genetic dead end. So he felt relief to know he is still into women of a peculiar kind. Tomboys.
Feeding Chie my meat.
>>741405562What's there to debate?
>>741405479>And doesn't look like a guyIt's anime, retard. If everyone in universe is being fooled by someone pretending to be a guy than that person looks like a guy in universe.
>>741405438It's a different time. It's almost possible to explain this to younger genartions where they're all watching youtubers with hair highlights that cry on stream and wear makeup.
>>741405562I mean Rise’s main issue was that she was so caught up with being an attention whore idol that she didn’t develop a real personality, but after her dungeon and hanging out with the team she learns how to be more genuine and express her self more honestly. Nothing too deep or hard to read, really
>>741405567Gosh, you're unhinged.
>>741405590Exactly. There's nothing to debate with any of them and yet you still see it anyway. I'm glad they don't with Rise. Hell, I'm glad they don't with the rest of the cast too.
>>741405595>its gay to be attracted to this
>>741405438His family owning a textile business is all the cover he needs to enjoy sewing and any other girly things they make. Kanji's issue's are much deeper than that because he deeply desires the touch of a man.
>>741405562Rise has nothing to discuss on that same level of idiots misunderstanding her. It's kind of the opposite effect where everyone generally likes Rise because she loves (You) and her arc is one of the most understandable from a writing perspective.
>>741399817Reminder that there are retards who believe Yosuke is gay too.
>>741405684He was almost but Atlus pussied out
>>741405537>>741405595No, she's small and young enough that she passes for androgynous. Her clothes and introducing herself as boy are doing all the heavy lifting, If she took of her bindings the illusion would break.
>>741405562Kanji and Naoto are the most controversial ones of Persona 4 because of how speed-readers and secondaries completely misinterpret their characters. The only reason why you'd believe Kanji was gay or Naoto is trans is if you're trying to project those feelings of yourself onto them.>>741405669In Japan it would be viewed differently than it would be somewhere else, and that wouldn't stop people from making assumptions.
>>741404383Facts.Faggots suffer because they feel like they are limited on supply they groom (children) to expand their sex party clown deviant fetish kink gatherings, so they hold this bitterness against heterosexual productive society forever and hate when families are being made and humanity keeps procreating. They are corrupt thats why they used to get killed in every society because it's the best thing to do with them to get them out of the way of society operating as intended so it can keep going.
>>741405684*cough* *cough*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXE96FuhiOc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ogh3mdPHsA
>>741405438So basically he would hate people who thought liking cute things automatically meant you're an lghdtv. Like the antithesis of westards.
>>741405673Idk, Kani and Naoto seem just as straight forward and easy to understand to me.
>>741405752>In Japan it would be viewed differently than it would be somewhere elseI doubt that. It's the family business.
>>741405464I wasn't speaking from an american perspective in the first place, not sure why you associate the gay with them. I can tell you I saw others in school yard bully each other for being "gay" before any of us could point out americas on the map.That's the sort of awareness people have for it and men want to avoid being associated with.
>>741405673Well, I mean if you take her dungeon literally like they do with naoto and kanji we could debate her being a massive whore that does the splits on manesan. making (you) a cuck.
Why is there no discourse about Chie/Yukiko maybe being carpet munchers based on their shadows?
>>741405790yes, he was literally the 4channer of his age
>>741405858There is but you hardly see people acknowledging it here. Although that talking point has been growing on Twitter and what not.
>>741405649yeah just let him grow up into the man he became, he was a chad he nailed a beautiful wife and had a family with her and created more beautiful aryan people. Do not interrupt the process by letting a faggot make him his sex slave object. Thats fucked up. Fags only care about their cocks not the cycle of life.
>>741405809You’d be amazed at how blind people get when projecting their issues onto someone or something else. As you can see, there’s a lot of self-projection when it comes to characters like Kanji and Naoto
>>741402265>guy feeling insecure about his sexuality because of his interests>suddenly someone comes up and seems interested in spending time with him>his body is reacting to the female hormones coming off of this person despite them seeming to be a boy>starts wondering if that means he actually is gayIt's so simple.
>>741405858Well yukiko's shadow can't stop talking about how much she wants a man so the whole lesbian thing doesn't go anywhere.
>>741405858consider >>741404693
>>741405943Yukiko mentions she was fine with Chie being one of her princes that would take her away.
>>741405858as long as they’re still horny for Ziocock it doesn’t matter
>>741405858They're straight but would be down for a threesome.
>>741405790Yes, and Naoto, too. These characters would loathe the idea that you must be something you're not because it's what society expects you to be. But queers don't comprehend this and instead project themselves onto them because of cult-like behavior. The entire point of the Midnight Channel in the first place, if I recall, was that it was how society viewed these people they would hear about on the news.
>>741399817>FansYou mean twitter fags who never touched the game?
>>741405501>instant woman repellenthow so?
>>741405996Without more obvious clues I think you could interpret that line in different ways. Kanji has a bunch of clues pointing to gay so his case is much stronger.
>>741406065Not that anon but it comes down to misogyny and biphobia. Not all but plenty of women will just see a bisexual man as gay. Thus being unworthy of going out with. That and they might hold views that bisexuals are inherently promiscuous and cheaters.
>>741406039Tumblr. Twitter didn't become gay until tumblr banned porn.
>>741405673>because she loves (You) Not really. That's just an act she puts out. Rise isn't actually in love with you unless you date her in-game.
>>741405910But how though? How the fuck can they misinterpret those characters THIS badly when the game isn't even trying to be subtle about their issues?? It boggles my mind.
>>741399885I worry, because i don't want people to know i'm gay and have to explain to them that i don't support the pride movement or whatever other corporate scam used to distract the masses through sexual liberation they think i might support, i want people to know my hobbies, because a human's essence comes from their intellect, not their sexual preferences or kinks, like the pride movement, trans movement and those other movements, that were created in this late stage sexual revolution period we are still living in, say.
>>741406170If you're not planning on cheating on her and fucking other people, why would it be necessary to tell someone that you're bi? Also chances are they think you took dick up the ass which drastically increases your chances of having contracted AIDs.
>>741406065because they think you are going to cheat on them for a faggot and that shit is offensive as fuck because you are impliying a fag is better looking than the woman you are dating lol. They would even prefer if you cheated on them with a woman instead of a faggot. Even they know instinctively a faggot is the lowest of the low, bottom of the barrel. Try it get dumped I told you. Just remember what I said.
>>741406284We only see what we want to see. We're all guilty of thisSome people are just more vocal about their ignorance
>>741406284Again, it’s blindness. For some people you can spell it out for them and they just won’t accept it. I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re straight up lying to themselves, knowing that their version of the narrative is incorrect but their need to be seen and empathize with these characters locked them out of accepting reality. Or, more fittingly, rejecting the truth
>>741406284Well chud weebs try to pretend nobody is gay in japan.
>>741406170>>741406327okay but what about women and feminists on Xitter? Bi's still get supported a lot even if not as much as homos.
IIRC Kanji got the shizzles because he's attracted to Naoto who he thinks is a dude. Naoto didn't turn out to be a dude, but at the time he thought she was.And similarly to liking traps, that just makes you gay, man.
Just going by the thread and retards talking about how tough it is to be this or that. It's not even really about Naoto and Kanji being anything. It's about these people having another place to vent about their booty hole problems.
>>741406320>If you're not planning on cheating on her and fucking other people, why would it be necessary to tell someone that you're bi?I don't know Sherlock, it's an immutable trait? Much like your apparent heterosexuality?>Also chances are they think you took dick up the ass which drastically increases your chances of having contracted AIDs.You are aware not all men who have sex with men do anal, right? Also PrEP exists as do condoms.
>>741406450>liking a woman is gay because its like liking a man who sort of looks like a woman?
>>741400329Fucking kek, holy shit.
>>741406445There's a great deal of biphobia on Twitter. This month alone I see gays and lesbians alike complaining about bisexuals. Either being too straight or noncommittal to "their team".
>>741406495he lost interest when she was confirmed a woman
>>741406445feminists from Xitter are going to cuck you with a nigger or somebody better looking than you and no she wont let you share. You're just going to be the beta provider. You will get used for your money. Seriously test your retarded bi theories women are going to play you the fuck out if you dont keep it heterosexual and you reveal too much, legit the most retarded thing you can do and it will ruin the relationship fast af.
>>741405126Yeah, the style is better but it feels like it's missing details.
>character is worried the police force would never take her seriously because she's got such amazingly fat tits>real life "fans" says she's trans because she wants to be a respected police officer
>>741406482So? It's not going to come up in you're relationship.I'm also aware that it's still the number one way to contract the disease. There are female pornstars that refuse to do scenes with men who do gay scenes.
>>741406609her tits aren't even that big
>>741405595No they just thought she's a guy with babyface which Asian women love. To extremely unhinged levels.There is a reason the joke is made in P5 about Akechi turning out to be a disguised hot woman just like Naoto did.Tourists man....
>>741399817Normal people just think the fans are gay.
>>741405908You sound very afraid of becoming gay. Usually straight men don't fear becoming gay because they know they aren't.
>>741406445Get the fuck out of twitter. Real irl queers aren’t anything like them
>>741406748Bigger then the rest of the female casts. Big for japan when you don't account for outliers.
>You see, since i have such fat TITTIES such huge BOOBIES such IMMENSE mammaries such GINORMOUS milkers, such MONUMENTAL UDEDERS>Everyone at the police station will think I got ahead by just giving everyone paizuri with my VOLUMINOUS globes>thats why I have to pretend to be a man and tape these HONKERS downWhy did Naoto say this
based on the youtube chat of the remake today no amount of logic, reason, or nuance about these characters will persuade these people every mc in p4 isn't a raging faggot just like they are, so...
>>741399885He was censored.Now he doesn't thinks he is gay.Naoto won't think anything about gender now.
>>741406829Because Japanese writers for anime related thing are touch starved losers
>>741406829It's sad. If she was a western woman she would be convinced to cut them off. Not because she's trans but just because other women would tall her how much their back doesn't hurt or whatever.
>>741406913Thats such an insanely depressing thought. I hate it happens. Imagine a guy saying "Yeah dude, had to cut my dick and balls off because my lowerback was hurting too much"Leave it to women to invent problems I guess.
>>741406751>tourist that doesn't know how anime functions calling others touristsMeanwhile here's a character from another series that is constantly called fat. Retard.
>>741406913No. Big tits are very inconvenient for many women which is why they get a reduction.
>>741405918You're no longer allowed to point out that males and females give off different pheromones that people can literally sniff apart, or that their body shapes cause men and women to literally move differently that are visually identifiable) even if one is only subconsciously aware of it, and that no amount of surgery or drugs can change that.
>>741404272>but no one does this with chie or yukiko over the knight line in her dungeon?Yuri is vogue now, so it will happen.
>>741403537Trannies work at Nu Atlus now, and Atlus are on Microslops payroll, which is owned by (((BlackRock))) and (((Vanguard))). They are 100% raping and editing this scene. Posters like>>741403442Are the Jeet shill farms astroturfing to normalise the changes in the runup to the game's release. It's all fake and gay
>>741399817Nobody thinks this. Nobody in the game thinks hes gay because he likes sewing either anyone who can read can discern this
>>741406317I can't speak for you but I find it really gay that me jacking off to hot dudes come with the baggage of all this faggot and especially tranny cult shit.
>Atlus senior project manager Masaru Nanba remarked on how popular the interpretation of Kanji and his Shadow were in the west in an interview with Famitsu in 2013>the interpretation
>>741403537>I hope they dont get wokefied.P3 removed the beach troon scene, there's no way it won't change for the worse.
None of you niggers are smart enough to discuss this. Just go back to the shitty Mitsuo threads
>>741407312Yes but if OP posted what he really wanted to get at then nowhere near as much people would have entered the thread to correct him.
>>741407091I wish I could just grab you by your throat in real life and bash your body mutilation normalising ugly kike head in with.y bare fist until it fucking exploded. Die beast of Babylon. EL PARÁSITO. EL CUCO MALÉVOLO EXCAVADORES DE CARNE. EMBUSTERO DE TALMUD.
>>741407456This nigga so mad he’s trying to cast spells
>>741406545he didnt lol
>>741407453This entire thread is basically all the “people” that ragebait at normal people calling Kanji bi, because theres no other way to interpret it. Infact they even changed his shadow from two male symbols (which to be honest was already clear enough that it was just repressed homo thoughts) to a male and female symbol just to make it even more obvious hes bi, or maybe people will just call it a censor.Either way, you can point out how utterly delusional their arguments are about how shadows are not their repressed feelings but how the world discerns them which is completely fucking wrong but it won’t change nothing. 4chan /v/ specifically is an echo chamber of pic related and theres no way you can seriously discuss an otherwise extremely ambiguous scene.
How come Yu doesn't get any flack from all the usual suspects for recording a striptease session of his (underage) classmate?
>>741407456>couldn't refute itlel
>>741407351He never says interpretation you can read the interview linked in the wiki. The interviewer just says Kanji's shadow and dungeon is popular in the west and he agrees and is happy with the response.
Kanji just fucking sucks dude never used him
>>741403673>that they forget BI people exists"bi" people are only kidding themselves
>>741407741>teenager wants to see a naked teenagerWoah dude no way
>>741407741They forget that part because they only ever remember the scene where he gives Yosuke a gay panic
>>741399817yeah we the audience were the mayonaka channel all along
imagine being so gay you get a nosebleed just form looking at women
>>741399817He’s an honorable man looking after his mother and learning skills to this end. His absent father has a lot to do with his insecurities, having no close male role model by which to define himself.
>>741406434and fags think everything is a "representation"
>>741403471Whom his manly instinct told him was prime mating material. And turned out to be a highly intelligent girl with huge tits
>"you look good in red.">wears red everydayI'm just here for the yurikino.
>>741403613the explanation is very simple. He smells her cunt
>>741408156absent by deathhis father dropped some be a real man request on him from his deathbed which fucked him up
>>741408145But it was bleeding before he turned to look at them?
>>741407071You retards are just a different generation of tourist that never learned the fucking culture.It is a cultural joke used for fan service referencing outdated standards.She is called fat to CALL YOUR ATTENTION to her optimal amount of meat making the joke of how silly is the stick figure standard from back when the country was coping with regular starvation. Likewise with age jokes about a fucking 23 years old. As for Naoto baby faced YOUNG men are an Asian fetish going back centuries in Japan and MILLENNIA in Chinaland.
>>741407456bro, your gay magic sky daddy larp isnt real, this is just beyond cringe at this point.
>>741407315Well, like you, i enjoy looking at pictures of hot dudes a lot, but i don't let people in the real world know about it, unless it's a really close friend of mine.
>>741402265he thought naoto was a femboy
>>741399885they would be more tolerable if that is the case, now lets get back to the PRIDE MONTH PRIDE PARADES WITH BDSM OUTFITS IN PUBLIC.
>>741406482>Bi literally cannot comprehend the idea of not bringing up their attention seeking fake sexuality if it's not relevant and lashes out in anger when this is pointed out to xemLOL. Can't make this shit up.
>>741403537whats terrifying that certain investigations have found how big the web of entities are to maintain the illusion of trans shit because it makes an OBSCENE amount of moneyjust think of it, making any random kid into PERMANENT PHARMAZOMBIES while too many of these fucks are either too fucked in the head to think if its even a good idea are just gold mines one after another. its amazing how they can maintain it all by promoting insane women into HR positions
>>741411024You good bruv?
>>741399817Well the remake fixed it. Now we know Kanji's bisexual.
>>741407091Back pain isn't real do some planks
>>741412318>not even a lower back exercise.Its dead lifts or the lower back pushing machine.
>>741410143those ni- what? around?based?
>>741412871>Rise calls his sewing creepyJustified
>don't date for years>everyone thinks you must be gayIf I wanted to date men I would have been dating men. People actually like they're enlightened or whatever but there's just as much distrust of people who have checked out as ever.
>>741399817reminder that Kanji gets an idol gf in the spinoffs proving once and for he likes pussy
>>741415091>hides his hairline>gets a hot chickIt's that easy.
>>741399817He clearly had some gay interests going on in the camping trip. He's bisexual at the least.
>>741412318It is, why do you think so many women cut their tits off? It can cause serious health issues in some cases.
Why is Kanji liked so much by Westerners and yet the Japanese Persona fanbase despises him?
>>741403902>I kinda do. These are different times now, and it wouldn't hurt if Kanji was a little gay. People who bitch and moan dont even matter since homosexuallity existed since the original game. Heck Tetsuya and Jun were totally gay and that was back in 1998. >I mean, they even made Superman a little gay for Jimmy in the latest cartoon. Except for like five or six chuds on the net, ppl really dont care anymore.
>>741415876>the Japanese Persona fanbase despises him
>>741404397Dropped
>>741415952Kanji is always very low on the polls and receives a lot of criticism from the jap fanbase
>>741400267I get aroused from looking at Yu in his underwear, but I'm not gay
>>741405438LGBTs have the most pedo esptein island looking flags im not surprised Epstein was pushing for this shit. Which is ironic we are in 4chan but here they keep it fictional and the real shit i hope they keep it to themselves or just dont engage with it at all.
>>741410946She looks better with that nose than Revivals nose
>>741416045>poll
>>741415943There is a great degree of low inhib mental illness one must have to be a tranny. This guy has no sense of ridiculousness.
>>741415952Old Yukari ENG voice > Nu Yukari ENG voice
>>741415332the bandana shit works for receding niggas that streamer that got his ass whooped for being a bully Jon Zherka did the bandana trick.finasteride is better but some people lose it and there is no getting it back unless they get a transplant then use finasteride.
>>741416264Transplant is such a scam, it should never be considered.
>>741416109I'll never not be amused when schizo anons throw the pedo card around at gays while the entire thread is busy saying how much they want to fuck every underage girl in the game.
>>741405762Thundercock Narukami is so attractively manly that he turns his best friend gay for him
>>741406829The story would unironically be improved if she was flat
>>741416052>not gayAnon...
>>741416703yeah but we keep it in fiction, you fags want to fuck children in real life. See Nambla and Epstein promoting the LGBT.
>>741406829I wonder if they’re going explain how Namatame got Naoto’s massive knockers through the TV in the remake. Seems like a big plot hole
>>741403912They're going to remove that line and make everything ambiguous, focusing only on 'being true to myself'.
>>741416847amen to that
>>741412318It's real. I had to get a penis reduction surgery because my balls were too freakishly large and I had to waddle like a penguin if I wanted to go anywhere without hitting my balls against everything
>>741403537I really hope they change it cuz it would so fucking funny
>>741416928The fact that you have to use a straight jew who has only ever trafficked girls as an example makes this even funnier.
>>741416986wait you said penis then you say the balls are large. whiich one was the large one.
>>741403902>it wouldn't hurt if Kanji was a little gaythat's retarded, you already have Yosuke has the token closeted homo character, you don't need another one.
>>741417007You cant have one without the other. they're a package.
>>741416997i mentioned Nambla why do you ignore that willingly . faggots are evil and pedo. And need to get lynched.
>>741417024Yosuke isn't gay, retard.
>>741417042Because no one takes that shit seriously retard. You did prove that straight pedophilia is highly successful however, given how prolific Epstein was. He literally became a billionaire because of it.
>>741417117>>741405762
>>741415876>>741415876Kanji isn't "disliked" per se, it's just that the guys are all pretty consistently last. Except China who just really likes Yosuke for some reason, and fucking hates Chie
>>741417239>really likes Yosuke for some reason, and fucking hates ChieMan, people are just making up shit now.
>>741417007My COCK and my BALLS are too OBSCENELY LARGE to fit in my TROUSERS, so I got my BALLS REDUCED
>>741417239>>741417268fucking forgot my picture, nice going me
>>741417319>poll
>>741417268I assume they love Yosuke because he's fujobait and they hate Chie because of how obsessed she is with Kung Fu movies.
>>741417319SEA monkeys are the only ones with good taste somehow
>>741417450Assuming something doesn't make it true.
>>741417450America would love a girl who's obsessed with John Wayne cowboy movies
>>741417725Nobody likes John Wayne.
>>741417769FUCK YOU
>>741417319>Rise always in top 3As expected of best girl
>>741417823nobody likes that nepo fat fuck. He cant act. Hes in with the jews. and he was a fucking draft dodger
>>741405071Get ready.
>>741415943It dwells herehttps://www.google.com/maps/@53.4795578,-2.2505659,3a,75y,334.92h,76.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1saTP3M7y6hqlOV4JnPyWS2g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
>>741417956jfc you people are obsessed
>>741417978Looks like it also dwells this board, this very thread even
>>741417995are you fucking crazy
>>741418009I'm not a tranny like you are, so no
TAKEYOURMEDS
>>741405071>>741417946>20 more years of adachi discourse>20 more years of arguing which game/anime combo is canon>20 more years of waiting for the p5 remake to come after p6 releases>the reincarnation of the world +20000 years of not seeing persona 1+2 get remakes instead>finally it's announced>It's a Jack Frost spin-off game featuring persona 1 and 2 character cameos
>the tranny is afraid, as it should be
>>741418009not crazy enough to chop off my down dick, start wearing dresses and calling myself a woman
>>741399817He was sexually attracted to Naoto when he still thought she was a dude. He ain‘t straight.
>>741399817He gae, hahahahaha
>>741399817He's Bi at the very least.
nobody projections their own narrow personal beliefs onto other people and other cultures like a liberal
>>741417319>my favorite character?>my blank self insert, of courseI don't get it
>>741418443ain't nobody better than (you)
>>741418443Yay I never trust these things because of that, you never hear anyone actually say the MC is their favourite character
>>741418295Yeah.
>>741418586Maybe it's a silent majority thing for room temperature IQ NPCs who can't process an opinion more nuanced than "main character? yes I know him"Or you know, they just watched the anime
>>741403902It undermines Kanji's character to make him gay. The whole point is that his hobby is associated with effeminate/ gay men. Thus to make him gay is just reinforcing the idea that the surface level assumptions made by society are correct.
I get the feelikg that Kanji is a Precurefag and Naoto is a /m/echanic.
>>741399817But he was sexually attracted to a woman in men's clothing that I refer to as a man. Checkmate chuddie.
>>741418586Ziodyne Thundercock is my favorite character due to the way the anime portrayed him as a weirdo at every opportunity
>>741417180also Epstien pushed for more LGBT he was in favor of it seeing how its a viable gateway to sexualize children. Smart but incredibly evil. Kill n hang fags = fix the world.
>>741418443Except the Persona protagonists are typically actual characters other than completely blank slates like your average gacha protagonist
>>741418703brisket is a heckin girl get over it anon xD
>>741400267>>741402265>>741403379>>741403471Troons making it obvious they haven't even played the game as always.
>>741418852kill trannies and faggots simple as!
>>741403379>>741402265>>741403471You can tell this poster is a tranny cause they're implying that a woman could even be anything but a woman even if the try present otherwise.
>>741418890
>>741400267>trapWOAHPlease do not use that word.
>>741419143ensnarement
>>741402265No he was so straight his hetero radar was locked in
>>741419085Risette ain't that curvy
>>741419243that's her shadow
>guy is incredibly insecure about himself and has little experience dealing with others, presumes the worst of them and preemptively lashes out to protect his fragile ego>is unable to comprehend basic platonic interactions and wonders if there's any romantic implications involvedKanji is literally us
>>741419085
>>741404272Gays and transsexuals desperately want representation so they see themselves where they can. Some irl gay man likes dressing up cutely so they see themselves in Kanji and ignore the rest. I know transsexuals who have regularly talked about how Naoto is what inspired them to come out, again ignoring the rest of her story. This coupled with desperate people needing to virtue signal has created a loud minority of people who push this idea. As much of a hater I will be of this Remake I think after the game releases these ideas will be drowned out by people who actually see the writing for what it is.
>>741405762Cut content isn't canon but I would find it funny if this was retconned in with the remake.
>>741419736I think cut content inevitably affects how the game comes across. I genuinely thought Yukiko was the killer, so I was surprised when it turned out she wasn't. Turns out the developers had originally planned for three different characters to potentially be the killer, and Yukiko was one of them. That ended up being cut from the final game.
>>741419943Of course. They wrote those scenes with his character in mind and I actually think it totally fits, especially with his attitude toward Kanji. But it's still cut content so I would never call Yosuke gay.
>>741419943they spitball with every character being the killer, they didn’t dwell on them too long though. Point is, it wasn’t implemented for a reason and never got past one or two lines
>>741399817Kanji is gay and Naoto is trans
>>741420520Naoto had a legitimate reason for dressing as a boy. She didn't really want to be a boy; she wanted to survive in a masculine world. That's a big difference.kanji is at least bi.
>>741402265But she wasnt a boy.and looking at the character model its obvious its a girl.Dont tell me at any point you playing the game thought Naoto was a man
>>741399817>>741405438100% this, this can only come from lbtq maniacs and/or people who have never even really played the game but got fed that bullshit via twitter and youtube, OR complete fanatics who deliberately ignore the VERY EXPLICIT text of the gameI'm so tired of it, and we'll have all that shit again when P4R releasesCarolyn Petit has her article ready in google docs, I know it (she already referred to Naoto as "he" in her idiotic article on Kotaku)
>>741411219>Pharmazombiesthis is also why gay is pushed, because hiv medicine makes profit.
>>741402265this is another thing the fags do, completely ignore that it's a classic trope that is played for a joke, the whole "w-why am I attracted to this man (who has female features btw), oh it's a girl, alright". Also look at LITERALLY EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE GAME to see that this a one-off gag that is common in media where women disguise themselves as men.god, fuck you, why do people have to explain this to you over and over again
>>741421190Is that why there is an HIV vaccine now that lasts only a year?
>>741416264I always wondered if you get a hair transplant but dont take the drugs does your hair recede from the new hair or does it continue receding from its current progress?Is it like a new game or a load game kinda balding?Would you have a gap in the middle?
>>741416997Epstein was into fnaf futahardly straight.
So are you saying he likes dudes or somethin?
>>741417319CHAD ZIODYNECOCK #1 IN ALL COUNTRIES
>>741421479MR. WORLDWIDE
>>741421241Most likely.
>>741421625there is no vaccine. I made it the fuck up.
>>741421640Did you?https://www.england.nhs.uk/2025/10/nhs-to-roll-out-first-long-acting-injection-to-prevent-hiv/>The new preventative therapy, given every two monthsDid you make it up anon?
>>741420520and Yukiko is a bird, and Rise is a stripper.
>>741421995it's true
>>741407456>EL CUCO MALÉVOLOHahahaha
>>741421995Burning Larry cloaca...
>>741420520hey Carolyn, join the 41% pls
>>741405649I had a gay dude who looked just like that hit on me when I was younger. I've since developed an appreciation for femboys and I pine for him everyday
>>741406795You sound late for your daily dilation.
Do you still avoid pink things, /v/?
>>741423220That would be a disservice to anon's mother's everywhere.
>>741423220For myself yes, I dont think the colour looks good on men at allI love girls that wear pink tho.
>>741423348Pink is a manly color
>>741423220I grew up in a big pink house and have a pink shirt I wearSo noBut I'm also Floridian, so I get away with it easier
>>741423371and other things teachers told boys during breast cancer awareness to get them to wear pink shirts.
>>741406445You are retarded or naive and young if you seriously asked this kek
>>741400267This didnt happen
>>741409630No it wasnt
Am I gay for liking Teddie in dress?
>>741424593>is it gay to like femboysReal head scratcher. You’ll figure that one out eventually, sport.
>>741406038>The entire point of the Midnight Channel in the first place, if I recall, was that it was how society viewed these people they would hear about on the newswhich is weird because kanji was most known for being a delinquent nuisance at that point, so who shifted the narrative in the public eye to>wait doesn't he like cute things too? lmao homo rage
>>741405673>because she loves (You)But I'm not Kanji?
>>741406038> The entire point of the Midnight Channel in the first place, if I recall, was that it was how society viewed these people they would hear about on the newsIt showed the audience what they wanted to see from a person they thought was interesting. It’s like when people when want to learn all the gossip and rumors about a celebrity but not the context and humanizing bits that come with it. It’s also the reason why shadow Rise’s breasts are bigger than regular Rise
>>741399817god even in this thread, on fucking /v/, there are fags who claim that Kanji is bi/gay and Naoto is trans. STILL!cannot imagine what the mainstream wankery will be when P4R hits
>>741423220Pink only looks good on black guys
>>741407645By your stupid logic, Naoto is also trans because of the surgery shadow. Not everything in the shadow world is literal, you fucking wallnut.
>>741425056There are still kernels of truth to the shadow versions of the characters, otherwise they wouldn't have a mental breakdown when talking to them. Also there's Yosuke and Chie who did not appear on the midnight channel yet still had their shadows come out.
>>741424879Chie and especially Yosuke, question his sexuality several times in the story. Even Teddie makes fun of him. For a cast of "friends" they shit on Kenji's insecurities non-stop.
>>741425067Oh, it's gonna be fucking bad. Zoomers buy that kind of shit hook, line, and sinker every time, so be prepared for an absolute fucking madhouse next February and the months preceding. We still don't know how exactly they're going to "modernize" the story either, and they seem suspiciously apprehensive about showing too much, especially of Naoto. I get that she's a late game party member, but come on. If they don't confirm something soon, then they're going to have to tear off the metaphorical duck tape off the waxed polar bear.>>741425394I know that society and the concept of friendships have been so viciously whitewashed over the past decade or two, but friends rag on other friends all the time.
>>741407645>Kanji struggles with *masculinity*>insecure about being perceived as *girly* because of his hobbies like sewing and fashioning dolls>t-the female icon his shadow holds means HE'S BI YOU CHUDhow do you people get through life, seriously
>>741424879I hope they cut this shit out, Kanji is a total bro and the entire party besides (Yu) shits on him
>>741425394>2008 teens>calling each other gay lmao>OBVIOUSLY THIS IS AN ACCURATE DESCRIPTION OF THE CHARACTER THUS HE IS GAY, IGNORE THE CONTEXT AND EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE GAMEyou retards are giving me an aneurysm
>>741425448There's a difference between light banter and just outright shitting on your friends inner fears and insecurities.
>>741424879Rise needs a spanking
>>741425394I know this might be alien to a lonely faggot like you, but friends diss each other.
>>741425613>2008 was nearly 20 years ago>Society has degraded so much that palling around is seen as horrifically offensive>>741425632Kids are cruel, Jack.
>>741425613There’s a difference between saying something’s gay because “oh lol that’s stupid and gay” and then going the extra mile when you’ve SEEN someone struggle with that and deliberately keep taunting them with the accusations.You faggot
Why did they specifically go for a jeet to voice (Yu)
>>741425690>A faggot autistic shitter on /v/ who is posting on a persona thread is trying to come off as "well off adjusted"nobody here has any friends, you retarded nigger, what you think is "dissing" were probably people straight up bullying you
>>741425709sure, and it's not coolbut teens are assholes, what can you do.Also Kanji's entire struggle wouldn't really exist if everybody around him just accepting him as a "normal man" despite his hobbies. You have to show people questioning him as a straight man because of his hobbies for it to make sense
>>741405918UHHHHH FEMALE HORMONES AND SCENTS DON'T EXIST YOU BIGOT.
>>741425856Don't project onto others, it's unhealthy.
>>741425365>There are still kernels of truth to the shadow versions of the characters, otherwise they wouldn't have a mental breakdown when talking to themYeah but like I said all that’s stuff still at the behest of the public. Yeah Yukiko wants someone to take her away from her boring home town but no one would watch a show like that. A show about a slutty princess looking for guy to fuck would be much more entertaining as a TV show>Also there's Yosuke and Chie who did not appear on the midnight channel yet still had their shadows come out.yeah but notice how you and Teddie are with them when their shadows appear. Notice how Chile’s shadow only manifests once Yu, Yosuke, and Teddie reach her. It was your desire to get to know them better that spawned their shadows albeit not to such an exaggerated degree, possibly due to not having as big an audience
>>741399817I don't like how he betrayed lancer, but he didn't have a choice. They had his fucking wife.
Japanese writers can actually write characters and arcs with nuance whereas the west has become so entrenched in identity politics that they have reached the point where they reinforce stereotypes to sure up numbers for "their team"
I miss when turn-based JRPGs were seen as the definitive dork genre, and only other dorks enjoyed them, before geek culture existed.
>>741424879>all these secondaries that didn’t play the game and read the rest of the slinkholy fuck you guys actually as bad as Reddit
>>741426043To be fair, this script is from 20 years ago. It's hard to find something as nuanced as this nowadays.
>>741426084Oh. You know what, that’s on me then
>>741425856I literally have a birth defect, concave chest. My childhood friends would make fun of it and some other little shits would bully me for it in the lockers. Kids can be assholes but there's a difference.
Kanji questions his sexuality throughout the game because he's insecure due to his upbringing and Japanese society being fairly conservativeRise questions Yu's sexuality because the thought of him being bi means more competition for her
>>741426084Rise is a bitch...
>>741404105>>741404171
>>741426056JRPGs are still for dorks but now the dorks can communicate with each other via the internet. People who had a good time in high school are going to laugh at Persona fans.
>>741404272You're assuming these people played the game
>>741406170>misogynyDo you mean misandry?
>>741426560I can fix her though
>>741425448>Oh, it's gonna be fucking bad. Zoomers buy that kind of shit hook, line, and sinker every time, so be prepared for an absolute fucking madhouse next February and the months preceding. We still don't know how exactly they're going to "modernize" the story either, and they seem suspiciously apprehensive about showing too much, especially of Naoto. I get that she's a late game party member, but come on. If they don't confirm something soon, then they're going to have to tear off the metaphorical duck tape off the waxed polar bear.it's not just zoomers, the groundwork has already been layed:https://www.gamespot.com/articles/denial-of-the-self-queer-characters-in-persona-4/1100-6404712/>regurgitates the lies from people who have never played the game OR choose to ignore the actual text>refers to Naoto as "he" unironicallywe're doomed man
>>741399817>game literally spells out its messages and character arcs>fans misunderstand them anywayHow the fuck does that even happen? Are the media literacy people lacking in actual literacy?
>>741426853It's all agenda, about "claiming one for the team", etc, see the article here:>>741426832No one can be that dumb, they either just play to the bubble or are deliberately misconstruing things for their ideology
>>741411219you ever heard of Ray Peat? if you've read his articles you'd understand just how fucked trannies are because of the ramifications of injecting massive, supra-physiological amounts of estrogens as men
>>741426832To be fair, how many people actually read these articles aside from those who are already indoctrinated into this shit and were already spouting about it? But yeah, I get your point. None of these secondaries actually see the human behind the character, nor the intent of their arc, they only see something they can exploit—Which is deeply ironic. They'll look at something as beautifully written as Kanji and Naoto dealing with their struggles with identity and who they are as they go through the most tumultuous time of their lives and then scoff at it because it doesn't line up with their specific worldview. It's frankly abhorrent. If everyone who played the original Persona 4/Golden had actually taken the meaning behind it all to heart, then the world would be a better place. Unfortunately however, there's no money to be made in being honest and having integrity. It's easier to sell a lie than it is to accept the truth. It truly is deeply ironic how these people are exactly the kind whom Izanami warns of. Hardly helps that, nowadays especially, people are so caught up in fabricated identities because they're too scared to take a deep, introspective look at themselves to discern or even care to figure out who they are as a person, that they grab the nearest off-the-shelf personality pack and slap it on themselves like a second skin. The older I get, the more disillusioned I become with these sorts of things. Lying to yourself and developing a cognitive dissonance to reality is only going to lead you to a life of self-chastisement and ruin.
>>741427876>and then scoff at it because it doesn't line up with their specific worldviewthat's what pisses me off, it negates the (real!) struggles of people who are not *them*. It's so fucking narcissistic, it reminds me of those online cunts who tell people that they're totally trans and should transition just bc some teen mentions feeling uncomfortable that one time.
>>741428136Exactly. There's a reason why so many of these types of people inevitably end up committing suicide, and it's not because some "chud" on the internet called them a slur. It's because the lie they accepted out of fear—the one that everyone convinced them was the truth—grew too heavy for their shoulders to bear, and they could no longer handle that weight any longer. They couldn't truly face themselves, and the societal pressure of being 'who they're expected to be' from their peers was too much of a burden, so they sooner choose to take their own lives instead. It cannot be understated how monstrous these people truly are; weaponizing people's self-doubt and insecurities as a means to further their own petty agenda and narrow-minded worldview. Their vitriol towards anyone who is no longer 'with them', their manipulation to keep each other down so that they'll remain blind, and their narcissism to keep the lie going is why they should have no quarter.
>>741400267I always got the impression that the devs intended him to be straight but accidentally wrote him in a way that would make him Bi to western eyes. Like in their minds he's only into Naoto who's a girl so obviously he's straight, but to the west we see he was clearly into her when he thought she was a guy and when he learned she was a girl so he obviously into both to some extent.
>>741399817Fans think he’s gay because of his dungeon and because he’s so insecure, doesn’t necessarily mean he is gay. It’s the fact that he cares so much that it comes off as gay.But that game was made in Japan in 2008, probably when traditional gender expectations were more prevalent. Also, Japan had an Ancient Greek/Roman approach to sexuality until the 19th century which has led to extreme homophobia to make up for it to fit in with western nations. Mishima was shamed for being too effeminate and the possibility of being gay by his dad, but Yukio Mishima’s grandad (or at least great-grandad) probably wouldn’t have thought to distinguish between genders in terms of sexual attraction or even sexual activity. It took them until 19th century to realise that raping little boys was a bad idea, but it took them until the end of the 20th century to realise that it applied to kids in general
>>741426853Fans see what thet want to. Just look at all the fujos defending Akechi.
>>741402265>Here's that strapping lad i was telling you aboutHe still had a crush on Naoto after the reveal I think he just likes pillowy lips
Only straight characters are MC, Rise and Adachi.2 main girls are lesbianstwink is gayhulk is gaynaoto is nonbinarykuma is trans
>>741405858they are just good friends and I am willing to bet the vast majority of players romanced them so they don't recognize a yuri ship
>>741405858The less of that there is the better
>>741403781Bro I thought they already remade it
Mc is too bland for this game. him being bisexual would fix it
>>741418586It would have more weight if they just rank all the protags of the series
When will /v/ learn most LGBT people don't care about some shit in an old video game and it's literally just theyfabs who ruin everything
>>741399885As a cockthirsty faggot myself, I prefer a bit of stigma to absolute tolerance. If everyone thinks it's totally okay for a man to suck dicks, it stops being exciting and starts to feel... well, gay.
>>741407456holy based
>>741406876Tranny
>>741405858Because Kanji is a man. As most anons tend to think they are.
>>741425056>>741425365>>741425941This probably the best point of Persona 4 theme, and the best practical use of the Jungian psychology. By interacting with others is when we see our flaws and repressed fear. Attach to that the world sees you as you present you and how they perceive you, and the TV world is 1:1 conscious trying to peer into the unconscious and getting the wrong message.
Yosuke is still the biggest homo because the first thing on his mind when alone with a questionable guy is wondering if his cock is going tear his asshole
>watching the new broadcast video>Yukiko Amagi. The Protagonist's classmateYukiko-bros, not like this...
If he isn’t gay his character arc is meaningless. Who has a full blown identity crisis and nearly gets killed by a doppelganger over a fucking knitting hobby. There are zero stakes involved.
>>741399817He's the straightest guy in persona 4
>>741400267I don't remember the MC ever being in his underwear in the game.
>>741403537I'm hoping that the worst-case scenario is that they just reword this but keep the context the same.
>>741432306I'm 100% expecting that. She's gonna say something like "I shouldn't strive to be a man". So that the trannies and faggots who for some reason still think are the target demographic don't firebomb Atlus like Kyoani
>>741432164He’s in love with a girl.
>>741432164>I have not played the game and don't know what it's aboutalways the same type that calls Kanji gay and Naoto trans
>>741399931>Keeps them away from my assholeyeahh if only men like this to all women...
>>741410367>>741406317>i don't support the pride movement o-ohh sweet anon...
>>741433568>straight man complaining about gay attention is the same as straight woman complaining about straight attentionget better b8
Yosuke is going to get Yukari'd...
>>741399817Troy Baker said that Atlus told him he's gay.
>>741434210https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS35lqSBqEw
>>741404272I should be amazed that somehow Persona 4 is still too smart for people to understand, but it's happened so many times that I'm not anymore.
>>741434210>believing Troy Bakerthat's your first mistake, but also>*voice direction*, i.e. "play him like x" =/= this character is x>said direction coming from the loc teamoh no no no
>>741434371>Yeah, who the fuck believes the people who work on the game! It's my head canon that's real!
>>741434210which one is troy
>>741434438>voice actor claims that the (western loc) direction was "play gay">this somehow supercedes the actual devs, writers and the entire text of the gamekeep coping and calling Naoto "he", your delusions will be your downfall41%
>>741434438>Localization director>People who worked on the game
>>741434481always the faggiest in any picture, take a guess
>>741434607>>741434623People who localize games work with the devs, they don't just blindly dub games. You're coping so fucking hard over Kanji being gay.
>>741434846>People who localize games work with the devsNot a single atlus devs told troy baker or anyone in the localization team that kanji was gay.
>>741434846you have the CLAIM of one VA, who is known to play to the faggy social media crowd bc he loves the adoration, about the western loc team, about a DIRECTIONwhich opposes the actual ENTIRE text of the gameliterally grasping at straws, but keep jerking your female penis to your fantasyOr, you know. Play the actual game you like to talk about and realize how idiotic you are.
>>741433770>but our right to exist without persecutionCurrent Day's objective seems to be to give straight people a pride month as well then
>>741434846
>>741399817It's because Atlus kept making gay jokes constantly out of the poor guy, no wonder people think he's actually gay
>>741435156I wonder how much of this confusion comes from zoomers and people who didnt grow up during the 2000s and didnt experience or know how common and universal using gay was an insult and how any perceived effiminaty among teens would be relentlessly mocked with accusations of homosexuality.Its just being ignorant of the cultural context in which the game was made.
>>741405858All women are bisexual, so it doesn't stand out.
Why do some people treat gays like they aren't just as bad as trannies?
>>741432164Are insecurities just not valid to you people useless it's tied to sexuality?
>>741399817retards don't actually read they just self-insert and make headcanon bullshit
>>741434973>>741435014Keep coping harder.
>>741435516If you lie enough then it becomes the truth? Is that your angle?
>>741435469None of the people who parrot that Kanji is gay and Naoto is trans have actually played Persona 4. This isn't an issue with reading comprehension. It's an issue with reading. Or the lack thereof.
>>741435561Who is lying? The voice actor for the character was told by a director to act like the character is gay. What you're saying is that you know better than the director. And those are two people who worked on the game and you did not.
>>741403537>said disappointedly>arc goes on for several more games>arc is actually about sexism and misogyny at its core>retard: "I hope they dont get wokefied"persona was always "le woke" you autistic fuck, read the room
>>741435516>literally all the evidence refutes your claim>C-COPE!keep digging tranny, your fantasy ain't real. write another blog about it
>>741435669it's so abundantly clear you have never, ever played the actual game, it's hilarious
>>741435669And how does that make kanji gay?
>>741435758I haven't seen any evidence. Post the evidence.
>>741418703>said the homophobic/transphobic /v/ user
>>741435747Persona 4 is legit a very conservative game, which is why it's the worst Persona
>>741435852>I haven't seen any evidenceOf course you haven't, because you haven't looked at the game, and Kanji's entire character and arc in it. Just go back to Bluesky.
>>741435669A voice actor's interpretation is different from what I understood from the game. Are you trying to deny my personal truth?
>>741435971You still haven't posted any evidence. I posted a video where a person who actually is the character says what the character is. What you keep posting is just cope.
>>741435971>Just go back to Bluesky.lol don't try too hard it ruins your baiting
Kanji is bi sexual, and no amount of coping with "Naoto was always a woman" changes this. He's gay as shit around Yu
>>741399817The entire purpose of his character is gaslighting to be fair.He ultimately gets to dictate what he does with his life, so he chooses clean up and go into working on textiles at the end of the story.
>>741436145>He's gay as shit around YuNo he isn't.
>>741436054>I have never played the game>I am making up a fantasy about a character in it>unless you recap a 50hr JRPG for me, my fantasy is truegod I hope not all zoomers are like this, or gaming is cookedwatch a playthrough on youtube, since you don't play the games you talk about. Then come back.
>>741436054>person who actually is the character Lol he is just the voice actor.He didnt write the character.
>>741436124wdym baiting, Bluesky has the highest concentration of "woke"/trans folks who make up this shit about Kanji and Naoto. It's crystal clear where that comes from
>>741436235Keep coping.
>>741436212He acts no different than Rise does towards him; he's a simp
>>741435853>>741419019
>>741435669>the voice actorKnown pandering fag. Literally just a contractor that ditched the job he's so proud of and has been replaced twice now>the ENGLISH voice directorWoman. Replaced Naotos original VA for her shitty acting. Can't even be fucked to get the actors to say Japanese names right in P5.
>>741429365>creates a kanji isn't gay thread to start another flame war>does it because he thought it was funnyYou son of a bitch...
>>741429164>kuma is transFinally, something we can all agree on>>741436456>being this upset over kanji being gay to the point of incel spreging over the voice director
>>741437210>I want Kanji to be gay and if you say otherwise, even though his entire arc is not about being gay, you're an INCELit's all so tiresome
>>741437373Did you play the game in Japanese?
I'm nearly 40 and I only just now realized that Jack Frost's "teeth" are his eyes. Do I have Down's syndrome?
>>741437668what are you talking about
>That languageAhhh nevermind
>>741437517You can play the game in whatever language possible and in none of them is kanji gay.
>>741437373>literally first negative thing said about said person "she's a woman">REEEE I'M NOT AN INCEL
>>741437850He is though
>>741438048Kanji would rightfully beat the piss out of you with his chair for saying this
>>741438048You didnt play the game
>>741438126Yes, because he's struggling with his sexuality. He plays a tough guy because he doesn't want people to know he's gay.
>>741438467see>>741438375
>>741438554Show me the part of the game that contradicts on what I said.
>>741437776I'm talking about Jack Frost being a Cradily, and I've always hated Cradily misinterpreters.
>>741438621>show me the entirety of a >50h jrpg to refute my fantasyevery time. this is not the gotcha you think it is, everybody who played the game knows you're full of shit. The bit is getting tired.
>>741438723low effort bait, his eyes are clearly distinct and visible
>>741438738You're not able to give even one example.
>>741438621how about you provide evidence from the game where Kanji says that he's gaythat's how burden of proof works homowhoops you can't, because there is none. good job
>>741438621https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Jce1wqtqH8AHim blusing and getting a noseblood from seeing the girls in swimsuits.
>>741438852>>741434306
>>741438983He's staring at the guys
>>741439002lmao
>>741439002And with this you've lost.
>>741439002we've been over this. VA claim (no corroboration, also lmao Troy Baker) about a *voice direction* from the *western loc team*I will note that you, as expected, have sourced exactly NOTHING from the actual game. Because you haven't played it and never will.41% baby.
>>741438789They are hollow and soulless. You fell for the trick. Those butterflies you see from time to time aren't actually watching you via their wings by the way.
>>741439187If you play the game in english, then the english writing and acting is what you get.
>>741405071
>>741439257Then you shouldn't have a problem citing an example from said writing (it's called a translation btw)whoops, you didn't and you can't.
>>741439257LOL
>video game board>doesn't play video gamesrumao
>>741439331it's so fucking funny how they tell on themselves, isn't it
wwwww
>>741439329https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h70dUTspMIkNow post yours.
>>741439092So he blushed and became akward and silent when the girls appeared in swimsuits for no reason and when the girls pushed the boys into cold water that somehow suddenly arouses him? Despite showing no reaction to them before and no reaction afterwards?Bro just give up.
>>741439531not only did you not play the game, you did not watch the video you posted (btw the title makes it very clear that you typed "proof that kanji is gay" into the search bar and posted the first result), because none of that is about him being gay. Congrats buddy, you shit yourself for the third, fourth time in a row?
>>741403673>>741403613>"O-okay maybe he isn't gay....">"BUT HE IS DEFINITELY BI! FOR SURE!"Sure, homos. Sure. Keep projecting.
>>741399817The modern LGBT community forcibly assigns roles to people
>>741439884>H-HE'S ON OUR TEAM, BECAUSE...REASONSevery time
>>741439686What do you usually call a guy who isn't interested in girls but men instead?
>>741439531dayuuuuum this nigga fr be talkin about a video game he yaint play befo??? Naaaaah you trippin, aint no nigga got no time in the moanin to be pretenden to be playin no game he aint touch. step up senpai
>>741440025
>>741440121kek
>>741404595"HAHA YOU WERE TRICKED INTO THINKING THIS HOT ASS LADY WAS A BOY! THAT MAKES YOU GAY AND YOU CAN NEVER DECIDE OTHERWISE BECAUSE I, A COCK SUCKER, SAID SO."Crazy how all these types love to force people under labels against their will.
>>741440025not Kanji, and you would know that if you had played the game.
>>741405278Some retarded bitch studying psychology told my buddy I was gay for him because I got deathly drunk one night and when my homie made sure I wouldn't choke on my throw up I told him I love him. This shit does happen, can't even love your bro in America without some stupid bitch with a degree tryna convert you.
>>741440685>Some retarded bitch studying psychology lol psych has nothing to do with what she said, she's just a dumb bitchDid she pull that card for real? Like>I know your GAY, I study psychology?
>>741440831I only mentioned that because it was her entire personality. So yeah, more or less what you said. Also psychology degree bitches always seem batshit insane.
god damn /v/ really turned into tumblr, zoomers are the gayest fucking generation
>>741441023I hear thatthose get mostly filtered out by the second semester though because stats kills them lol
>>741441139I choose to believe that this is mostly Bluesky trannies trying to "troll", no way an entire generation is this retarded
someone make another thread, but about Naoto being transbonus points: post the frankenstein lab in her dungeon and call it "transition surgery"
>>741399817>character is worried about people thinking hes gay because he likes sewingIt wasn't just the sewing. There was much gayness going on with him.
>>741441139Nah, I guarantee I'm more woke than that fag, he just wanted attention. Kinda funny that my most juvenile of replies got him to shut up though.>>741441517Unless you like taking dick up the ass or sucking on another mans dick you're not gay. This post is gayer than Kanji ever will be.
>>741441893>Unless you like taking dick up the ass or sucking on another mans dick you're not gay. This post is gayer than Kanji ever will be.true and based
>>741441893You can be gay without having sex ever. Same way you can be straight and not have sex.Atlus is probably the most woke game studio of all time.
