>>741404235
clownyasaki hates mods

>>741404414
Good.
That makes the mod even better.

>>741404235
Tried this mod for a bit and hated it. It tampers with everything i like about the game's open world design and turns it into a directionless ubisoft open world. Sucks because a lot of the content seems pretty cool, but the foundational changes they've made pissed me off to no end.

>>741404414
FromSoft has never taken any action against a mod, whether through legal action or by intentionally breaking it. DS3's Wex Dust mod likely inspired Elden Ring's near / far invasion option. FromSoft's about as pro-mod as you can get outside of running a storefront or in-game Workshop integration.

>>741404796
Have you tried Reforged

>>741404235
is this mod actually fun?

>>741404235
is the balance still shit? you got overpowered so quickly, more so than base er

>>741404826
I'm playing it right now, actually. Converged was my first pick but i gave up on it pretty quick. I'm enjoying reforged a lot though. The addition of the deflecting is a great addition honestly. It gives you more options than rolling while not invalidating other options.

>>741404235
cool

>>741405001
The current version is very much a power fantasy, but exploring the new areas they've added is definitely cool.
They're very high effort.
>>741405007
I read somewhere that there'd be balance adjustments about that, but its not out yet, so who could say.

>>741404235
Convergence is probably the only truly great mod I've played for any single player game. It just changes so much in interesting ways, and the class I played was fun as hell. I'll definitely be playing it again at some point.

/v/ will endorse slop like this but not new games made by new developers like lords of the fallen or khazan

i remember using convergence in ds3, the second i saw the pontiff going full sword saint ishin i uninstalled the mod
cringefantasy can only go so far

>>741405181
I liked Champion's Ashes for DS3, but that was at an earlier phase in its development and when I replayed it a year or two later, it felt a lot more bloated than I remember.

>>741405198
I played LotF(2) and LoP...

>>741405198
>free mod
>paid game
How are these comparable?

>>741404235
>overhaul mixed significant with content additions
why do they do this? do they hate me?

>>741405734
>>overhaul mixed with significant content additions
fug
but yes, having two separate mods was the way to go.

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>>741405734
What is the issue my child?

>>741404826
no
https://www.japaneselawtranslation.go.jp/en/laws/view/1980/en art 20

>>741406006
And FromSoft chooses to ignore this legal right like some other Japanese companies, your point?

>>741406006
did fromsoft write this law?

>>741404796
>>741405007
Maybe it is because I'm coming off of a reforged mod playthrough but yeah, balancing is still shit tier in 3.0 convergence. It's significantly easier than base game ER I'm pretty sure, but it's been a while since I played vanilla and maybe reforged just broke my concept of what normal difficulty is like. I didn't even play meme difficulties in reforged, just the standard reccomended mode.

>>741405113
It is out my dude. The devs were going to early access gate it to their patreon paypigs and give it out to streamers to play and advertise for them. Someone with a brain pointed out this could be construed as an attempt to monetize the mod and they folded and made it available for everyone.

>>741405198
>lords of the fallen or khazan
Slop.
AI Limit was made by a team that actually understood DS1's and Demon's Souls exploration, instead of being just a shitty boss rush.

>>741406336
The weebslop waifu aesthetic kills it for me.

>>741406289
Ahh, I just checked their new 'launcher' and it did offer the early access.
You were right.
I'll have to fuck around with it tomorrow.

>>741406134
I'm curious, if base Elden Ring is like an 8, and Reforged is like a 9, I'd put Convergence 2.0 at like a 6.
What is 3.0 at right now from your experience? Still just as easy?

>>741406440
6 or a 7? I haven't made it into the dlc content which is where most of the new content is. Maybe they ramped up the difficulty there? But I was expecting more rebalancing in the base game. I'm 4 runes or whatever the fuck the spell unlocks are called deep into the starcaller class for reference.

>>741404235
Is this shit modded into base game or is it its own map?
The dragoniod mage and Godskin look alright The mage I say even looks professionally done.

>>741404235
From what I'm seeing on Discord the performance is still dogshit.

>>741406440
>Reforged is like a 9
No.

>>741406686
The only time I really got Convergence raping my machine was with the Stormcaller class.
They give you this hurricane spell that covers a huge area in a constant storm, and if any other particle effects start blitzing around they make my CPU chug like a steam engine.
Otherwise its slightly slower than vanilla, but I'm playing on an ancient shitbox and never really suffered for it.

Convergence is a shit clown mode gimmick mod.

>>741406685
Added to the map.
If you look at the dragonlord vid, the host looks up at the start and you can see that they expanded that map somewhere behind Scadu Altus, because he's behind the Scadutree.

>>741406982
Yeah looks like it's own sub zone. My issue is if it's some little new "slice" added to the main maps so it's basically the main game + their OC, that feels kind of dogshit to bother trying it IMO especially since I relatively recently did another ER play through.

>>741407292
>Cont.
If it was a very well polished little "DLC" type mod plus whatever autistic balancing changes they wanted for base game, maybe I'd try it. I feel like if you wanted a total overhaul though it would have to be quite a bit of shit added and changed about the main game.

I think it was these guys who did the "What if Melania was Miquella's consort" concept for a fight which was kind of cool. But like if they're doing that it should be an optional change like if you kill Malenia before Radahn or something.

Reforged is one of the worst overhaul mods I've ever played, so I'm willing to give a mod that apparently goes in the opposite direction a chance.

>>741407728
What's wrong with it?

>>741404235
>From goes out of it's way to make bosses where rolling is the worst possible way to fight
>modders make bosses where rolling is the only viable way to stay alive
Say it ain't so.

>>741404235
that first video completely encapsulates everything wrong with fromsofts design as they've gone from game to game
we've reached a point where bosses through 100 attacks out at you and all you can do is dodge until that one opening that lets you do one single attack before it all repeats.

>>741408192
Now at least I know why you fucking retards still cling to your "rollslop" mantra even if the base game is everything but that. Be honest, did you even play ER or just watch DPS play it?

>Not official content from Fromsoft
>Mod based content

Pass. 90% of mod-based content I've played has been trash and boring. Even the Skyrim mod content isn't that fun. People craft entire new dungeons, stories, quests, etc. They're just never as fun/good as official stuff actually put out by the developer.

>>741408275
of course i did retard and the only game ER beats in fromsofts catalogue is DS2.

>>741408340
>ER beats in fromsofts catalogue is DS2
kek, a simple no would've been enough, good saar.

every mod that isn't reforged just looks really shitty honestly

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>>741408192
>that first video completely encapsulates everything wrong with fromsofts design as they've gone from game to game
You mean Idris, right? Because all I see in that video is 1 to 3 attacks followed by a fairly slow recovery time where you can throw in a hit or two.

>>741408447
Reforged is the shittiest of all.

>>741404235
Convergence is dog shit

>>741408287
Shut the fuck up paypig

>>741405198
Khazan is based, and so was Ai Limit

Lotf is horrendous

>>741408441
are you one of the retards that things not only is ER fromsofts best game but one of the best games ever made? thought you kids were stuck on reddit on your discordtranny servers

>>741408759
I don't mind paying for OFFICIAL content, faggot. Get a job.

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are they for real with this shit LOL

>>741408631
let me guess, the elevator noble filtered you?

>>741408896
Bro that's literally just Friede

>>741407457
Wait never mind, "Garden of Eyes" did the Consort Malenia fight.

>>741409167
i only played the dlc for 3 once and don't remember any of it.

>>741408896
Looks weird, he slides forward while he's still spinning on his toes.

>>741404796
>into a directionless ubisoft open world
You mean Elden Ring in general? What was the fucking point of the "open world"? It's just padding to collect the seeds/memory stones etc..Elden Ring was the first souls game where the first play through for me was the worst one, because I actually checked every nook and cranny for shit, and my efforts were completed wasted by getting worthless crafting shit. At least convergence fills the world with more meaningful shit like spells, but it's still mostly tedious garbage having to run around all the over the place to pick up upgrades.

>>741406006
>government has law
>Fromsoft does nothing with the law
>this means Fromsoft is anti modding, because the government has written a law probably before the studio was even founded
You're what we in the business call "retarded".

>>741404235
I played this back in February and I was just some super duper gravity mage who could shoot lasers, bring down homing meteors, and teleport all over the place. I didn’t finish the DLC because I was so strong, I beat Bayle right during his phase transition and I heard they were rebalancing the game for 3.0 so I decided if I was gonna do it, I’d wait then. But fuck, you become super strong in this game. My light greatsword had this ash on it that did so much damage with Rellana’s Cameo and my class armor was Gaius’ set so it’s not like I was doing all this as a glass cannon. It’s a power fantasy mod, but it’s still better than “Elden Vins” which seems like a power fantasy mod from all the clips you’ll see but it’s actually a broken janky mess that also includes modded versions of many bosses. The Elden Ring engine was not built to let you fight like Vergil or Ryu. Reforged is good but I stopped after Radahn, just because I was kinda tired of playing so much Elden Ring back to back. But it’s better than this and all the new bosses are, for the most part, just straight one-to-one ports unlike Convergence which tries doing new stuff with them.

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>>741404235
>took the modding community 3 years to make a third foreskin duo reskin and recycle catacombs assets some more
GAMING IS SAVED

>>741409557
The new Godskin guy is half Gundyr btw.
Mod makers LOVE reusing Gundyr.

I played this shitty mod called “Linear Convergence” and I hated it, since I called it shitty. I never finished it, it’s not the same as convergence really. The guy adds in his own cancer bosses and makes convergence’s new boss cancer in the mean time, except for the tutorial boss which is just that crucible guy they had kill Gideon (that was cringe btw).

>>741409594
He's the best boss from 3 so it's not surprising.

Looks interesting... I wonder if anyone will make any mods that expand/change / add new endings or other content etc. I heard someone was working on
>A challenge run mod that allows you to actually be "maidenless" by never joining with Melina, the way that some thought it may have been a very difficult game secret up until there was no way to progress without her and Torrent.
>An ending where you manage to save Melina without her hating you for Frenzied Flaming everything up
>A whole host of stuff for SotE alternate content including playing it affecting the mainline ending in a "true ending" path , alternate SotE final boss(es), and more

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>>741408896
This mod is really bad at giving their new bosses names. There's a new crucible knight call "Skarde" and that has barely any resemblance to the crucible knight naming scheme at all.

>>741404235
This mod has its moments, but it goes way too overboard with everything.
Overproduced.

>>741404235
whats the song for the second boss fight video, the vulgar militia chieftain, whats that song

>>741409962
They recently figured out how to add actual cutscenes into the game, so it's possible. That wasn't really seen until last year. Someone should make an intro for Rellana and Romina.

>>741408192
His moveset is mostly Champ Gundyr, from DS3, literally 10 years ago.
You are such a secondary that you don't even deserve the right to talk about the game.

>>741410228
They make their own music.

>>741408896
His moveset is half Friede and half the Bird Warriors from the DLC.
You should be pretty good at dealing with both.

>>741409480
>“Elden Vins”
Elden Vins is fucking weird because you'd think it was just an anime power fantasy mod, but your attacks do literally ant-bite levels of damage to the bosses.
Your dude is flailing around like he's fighting Goku at the end of time and space, and you're doing like 1/40th of an HP bar per hit to a starter Crucible Knight.

>>741410484
And then all the NPC fights are insane too, though they're too easy to r1 spam but they'll combo you to death if you start the chain quickly.

>>741404235
For the first guy, where does that kickflip jump slash come from?
It feels like a Sekiro move, but I can't think of a specific enemy that uses it off the top of my head.

>>741408287
Modders made a better ER DLC final boss than Fromsoft
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3KmXL4_Hw0

>>741408896
https://youtu.be/LDGSxkxrI0w?t=441
Here, maybe you can learn something.

>>741410776
I pirated mod and goodness no, this fight is horrible to actually play against. Keep in mind, Consort Malenia (which is what this mod does) is more uninspired and pathetic than Consort Radahn. Miquella is way more interesting when he's a disabled fuck riding around on someone bigger than him, buffing all their attacks and casting light nukes rather than being fully competent by himself.

>>741410776
Other than some of the bow moves this is not how I'd imagine a direct fight with god Miquella.

>>741409594
Gundyr is fundyr.

Is this mod still trying to make dungeons worse by filling it with random bullshit that blocks off most passages? I thought convergence had some fun ideas but it really makes the major areas significantly worse.

>>741410957
Having Malenia start out all MOGGED out only to be cleansed was pretty clever though.

>>741411082
Most people aren't going to be messing around in the DLC yet, but they haven't changed that design philosophy for any of the base game areas they've modified.
They really want to make sure that you trace every inch of an area before you complete it.
Elden Ring usually lets you bypass exploring a dungeon if you don't want to, Convergence doesn't give that same option. You will walk almost every inch of a map before you're allowed to leave.

>>741411089
It's a good showcase of how far souls modding has come, it's pretty creative with their own little fan canon. Playing the actual mod is pretty torturous though, it's a big mess. The fight before Miquella, which is the Consort Malenia fight, was ludicrous even with one of the new OP weapons they added. It's very long but it has some cool interactions anyway. Never wanna fight it again though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAIRE8w2Jqw
Someone should just make Godwyn already.

>>741410776
While it's impressive that they can do all that with what we have as modding tools this fight fucking sucks from a gameplay point of view.
Charming spirit ashes and stealing Torrent is a fucking genius idea though lol.

>>741404235
I see that it has the same problems of ER about arenas
>big
>plain
>squared
>boss arena

>>741411412
I mean what else can you do? Players need to be locked on and constantly moving with no obstructions and so do the boss. If they want to keep making boss fights in this style, both Fromsoft and modders you can't really do anything else.

>>741410776
It is really funny that this fuck ass jank pay walled mod, is also probably the most technically impressive Souls mod to ever exist.

>>741411551
Elden Ring Golden Age is a Chinese mod that's batshit insane
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOano0TqkzY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVD1FZ7fhyg&t=268s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhvYLD5Nf7A&list=PLEQffDC5hqMlGd7eN-3VG69V2G2tiMhAx
it's pure slop but it's funny.

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>>741407835
I was going to say tl;dr, but this turned into more than a tl;dr

>made significant changes to enemy AI
>made significant changes to enemies' attacks and how they react to being attacked
You know how Malenia can animation cancel out of hit stun after two attacks by the player? Yeah. Get used to that.
>didn't change encounter design to account for these changes
>I swear there's something wrong with how the enemy AI behaves once it's in combat, but I didn't test it extensively; it's similar to Dark Souls 2
>the player's damage is lower early on, leading to fights dragging on and exacerbating issues caused by the aforementioned changes
>introduces a few new, interesting systems and mechanics... however, most of these are essentially the developers saying, "Now, don't have TOO much fun," and giving you 3.47% additional damage if you're a really, really good boy (where the vanilla game would give you 5%)
Almost all of the mod's sub-classes, one of its most interesting features, suffer heavily from this.
>nerfs a lot of vanilla items, strategies, and synergies in the name of balance
>despite being incredibly anal about balance, endgame builds end up being imbalanced
>litters the open world and dungeons with hundreds of small, glowing collectibles, and collecting 10 allows you trade them for a marginal increase in specific stats or attributes; these increases are significant enough to make a difference, yet insignificant enough that you'll usually feel like it isn't worth intentionally collecting them
>many of these collectibles are in insanely fucking retarded spots
However, you do acquire a small number passively by beating bosses.
>some of the new content is really bad - I'm looking at you, copy-pasted Ringed City knights (with frenzy) gauntlet
>makes several, significant changes to "correct" the game's progression by blocking off shortcuts that are intentionally designed to reward the player for foreknowledge on repeat playthroughs

>>741411828
If I were to describe Reforged in a single sentence, it'd be that it's a mod that's made by people who don't understand very intentional design decisions by FromSoft and "correct" them in a way that feels like parody. It's great if you're a masochist without any innate sense of game design, though. Like if you just want to run your balls through the industrial lathe and say, "Thank you sir, may I have another," it's for you.

>>741411412
'interesting' boss arenas are almost always hit dogshit to play in

>>741411725
Honestly I'm more impressed they implemented so many moves into one weapon. It probably falls under 'only this is the optimal combo' but it's technically impressive at least.

>>741411932
>Make an interesting and lore accurate boss arena
>Get stuck on a tiny piece of terrain while trying to dodge
>Die
Yeah I'll take the plain round arenas. Lost count of how many times this happened in other Soulslikes.

>>741404796
I disagree.
I think the specific 'quest path' that Convergence gives your specific class gives you greater direction than base Elden Ring.
You more or less know where you should hit up and what you should leave for another playthrough just by reading the lists you're given for where to look for gear.

>>741404796
>turns it into a directionless ubisoft open world.
???? This is the original game

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>>741405298
Big Dick Sully deserved that upgrade.
He is too cool to be relegated to mid-boss like he is in normal DS3.

>>741412320
I wish I was a homunculus, must be nice

>>741405298
Wasn't he a hidden boss in DS3 convergence (it's been 5 years since I played it I don't remember)

>>741407835
>>741411828
Reforged does feel like Dark Souls 2 2. Vanilla Elden Ring implemented some good features from DS2, and Reforged seems determined to implement all the bad features.

>>741404414
Mods will never not be scribbles on a painting. Now, if the game officially supports user created content the way BGS does with Creations, then sure. I would even pay for some. Otherwise, mods are cringe.

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>>741412904
Why do people using this board have to always be the stupidest versions of themselves?

>>741404235
>they made a fatass boss just to show off jiggle physics

>>741408896
>panic rolls like a retard
>gets punished for it
I don't see the issue here, perhaps get good?

Is the game still
>follow your class route
>throw your head against an overleveled boss over and over for a weapon or spell rune early on
>crush the rest of the game with an iron fist

>>741404235
literally unironically only tranny faggots use mods.

>>741413242
Yes

>>741404235
It's a really high-effort mod and packed full of stuff, so I'm definitely not complaining

>boss mod
>not even 7 phases
whats the point

>>741411932
>>741412113
That problem would not exist if From was able to code a good terrain

>>741410776
>17 fucking minutes bossfight
holy shit, that looks absolute cancer to actually play, but the lightshow is pretty good.
also >>741411272

>>741413478
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpB4vKhMs5o
I forget how many subphases this mod has, but its close to 7.

>>741411551
Just looked at the bosses, holy fucking reskin. I mean I guess a FF omen is alright, and I GUESS trying to make each of the unamed Crucible knights unique isn't a terrible idea. But once I saw fucking Nameless King and they barely even attempted to edit King of Storm's model I cringed.
Why the fuck is there a fight that's just Rennala but with more spells and a Radagon summon?
>Literally Lady Maria
>Odeon but he's some dogshit Elden Beast reskin that transforms into the Bloodstar, indicating the developers were retards who didn't understand what the bloodstar is.
>Helphen Gargoyle reskin fight looks decent if not slow, the head mechanic seems interesting.
>Fucking ORPHAN OF KOS as an Astel for some reason.
>Absolute ass looking Godskin reskins of O&S, with Godskin Ornstein being the worse offender (Could have just made him look more like a dragon communion knight?)
>Smough becomes fucking Vordt for some reason. Ornstein becomes nameless king 2nd phase lmao
>NORMAL FUCKING NAMELESS KING FOR SOME REASON
>GAEL FOR SOME REASON
>SOUL OF CINDERS FOR SOME REASON
>An undead king Jareel fight that looks like it was ported forward probably from old plans for a DaS Mod. Not sure if it's Gael reskined or a hybrid of shit.
>DaS II Dragonrider but on a terrible reskin of an Erdtree Sentry mount.
>Moon Presences fucking Beta model with tacked on abilities to compensate for its incompleteness.
>Manus with a Garden of Eyes coat of skin.
>Malania's master I guess, not sure who's reskin this is.

>>741413734
>Odeon but he's some dogshit Elden Beast reskin that transforms into the Bloodstar, indicating the developers were retards who didn't understand what the bloodstar is
They don't understand what Odeon is either, he's called the Formless and he's literally formless, as in he doesn't have a body at all

>>741406006
>the average antijap /v/ermin

>>741404796
The part I disliked the most is how dumb they made loot. You no longer find armor sets, you now need to check lists of drop locations, which are all over the world. I was honestly too tired of ER open world to relearn all the item locations but this time even more bloated so I only played the mod once and never went back

>>741412883
I wouldn't compare them except for how the enemies behave. It's like they all try to mob you at once like it's DS2, instead of using ER's more advanced AI where enemies will circle you, strafe you, and stagger their attacks to give a semblance of strategy (since there's no friendly fire). I never saw as many death balls of enemies in Elden Ring as I did during my Reforged playthrough.

I think it was their attempt to make enemies "more aggressive", I guess.

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>>741414612
That is literally one of the best parts of the mod.
Not having to farm for weapons and armor like a dickhead but instead just finding them in thematically appropriate locations.

>>741414804
Sorry but I don't like getting the pants in Limgrave and having to go all the way to Haligtree for the helmet. Removing farming is good but the scattered loot isn't exactly an upgrade when with farming I could have the entire set right there and then

>>741404796
>about the game's open world design and turns it into a directionless ubisoft open world.
But that was already Elden Ring?

>>741415086
Going all the way to the Haligtree is streamlined as fuck, with the Minor Erdtree highway system and new hidden waypoints

>>741414712
No.

>>741415224
I just found a fun one of those fucking around with the 3.0 release.
If you go to the island in limgrave that normally holds the dragon cult church, there's a boss fight and a warp gate that takes you to the mountaintops.
Its pretty cool.

I noticed something weird about that island for a distance and it was nice to see that there was actually something worthwhile there.

Fromsoft games before:
>Fighting using huge swords like a badass
Fromsoft games now:
>Firing magic from 10 miles away like a cuck

What happened?

>>741404235
"""New""" boss
>95% animations ripped from Sekiro
That fatass is literally Juzou the Drunkard

>>741404235
does it change the map or is the same old world it was before?

>>741416121
Every legacy dungeon has sizeable changes and there's a number of new locations in the open world itself.

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The best part about these mods is the modders showing some love to vanilla weapons and magic that From just outright neglected. There were way too many weapons from enemies that had generic ashes of war and From disappointed me immensely not adding any more frost lightning miracles or death and thorn sorceries in SotE. I'm still way too tired of ER and its length to try out more stuff in the mod, it all has questionable balance too

>>741416121
The map is basically the same in shape and size, but most individual locations are expanded or rearranged.

>>741404235
I'm fucking ecstatic! Finally some good news, I love this mod so much and I play Elden Ring to this day because of it. It's 100% an improvement over the vanilla game. Fuck anyone who says otherwise, it's a Wizard's mod for Wizard players.

>>741416165
One thing that I hope they adjust is the variable scaling between weapons.
There are definitely favorites and not favorites in a way that base Elden Ring usually avoided (with some obvious exceptions like the Cleanrot Sword). Or more like weapons the mod makers have given special attention to and others that slip through the cracks. Like there are obviously better and worse weapons in base Elden Ring, but usually it wasn't night and day as long as your stats were in the right order.
Its funny to compare something like the Eagle's Edge (AKA the Monster Hunter Longsword) to a normal Great Katana with the Storm Infusion, for example.

>>741416165
that's fuckin RAD

Cripes half the replies are just screaming
>Shit shit shit
Fuck off if you don't like it, this is one of the only mods I like that has been consistently updating and full of effort. I fucking hate you retards shitting on anything that has an ounce of soul and just spamming some bullshit only you care about.

>>741416101
With few exceptions these types of mods are almost always built off of reused animations from other games.
Sekiro, For Honor, Monster Hunter, all give lots of animations to modding projects for other games.

Cool.
Blows the fuck outta garden of eyes.

>>741416602
/v/ - Performative Contrarianism & Twitter Screencaps/Random

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>>741411828
The Fortunes that actually have a meaningful impact like Crucible, Dynast, Heretic or Reeds feel fun as fuck and actively change the way you play but it's true that there's a ton of fucking dogshit Fortunes that do fuck all. Can't believe you didn't bring up the worst aspect of the mod and that is their weird anal fixation on wasting time on multiplayer shit for like their 200 Discord trannies instead of giving us new Fortunes or balancing old ones.

>>741411725
Imma be real witchu, that kalameet fight is the most scuffed thing ever.

>>741411828
Honestly the best advice I can give to someone trying Reforged is to play it with a Cheat Engine table that lets you oneshot or become inmune so you don't have to deal with the utter retardation of the mod balance sometimes, especially now that the dumb fucking niggers have slapped Nightreign bosses into the base game. You know, bosses balanced around you having fucking SURGE SPRINT.

>>741411725
I didn't even know that fromsoft modding had hit the point of adding new animation data. That's actually yuge.

>>741415893
Oh yeah, I forgot where that waypoint to the mountaintops was, I don't go to that island very often. It was in the 2.23 too, it's not exactly new

>>741417219
>slapped Nightreign bosses into the base game
lolwut

>>741417339
The Twin Gargoyles fight is replaced by Gnoster and yes he still does the phase transition charge while spraying lasers everywhere, only you're half as fast as you are in Nightreign.

>>741404796
How does it turn the ubishit open world into a ubishit open world? Care to explain?

>>741416676
anything blows that bloated content theft paywalled piece of shit made by a known grifter/asshole out of the water

Has anyone here tried Convergence?
Does it have a deflect/perfect block mechanic?
daddy needs his parryslop

>>741408896
Is the boss fight taking place on an ice rink?

>>741404826
Doing a seamless playthrough of reforged with a buddy. I like the mod a lot, and the surprising amount of quality and consistency in the overhaul really makes it feel like a vanilla+. I especially appreciate DLC weapon types showing up in the base game, it really fleshes out the experience (I just wish there were more).
Only downside is that like any overhaul mod, it really makes the highs and lows of Elden Ring go even further, and some fights are just extremely frustrating at times.

>>741417916
Yes I play it to this day. There's a whole blocking system yes. I mostly use magic and become a Wizard every time though.

>>741417392
Gnoster was absolute cancer to deal with. Her poison clouds were already oppressive as fuck in Nightreign, trying to space yourself from them with the regular sprint was fucked.

On the opposite end, Libra was very fun, and I like the implementation of his "deals" actually having a drastic effect on the fight. Granted, if you've never fought any of the Nightreign bosses enough times to fully know their moveset or mechanics, it's going to be a bad time.

>>741417219
>>741417392
All I'm hearing is a bunch of skill issue. Reforged is demanding but it isn't ever unfair. You just have to tighten up your timing and adapt to the challenges. Honestly 95% of reforged bitching is just skill issue. 5% is the devs being pants on head retarded like the lantern and all the drama around it. It's literally the dumbest thing I have ever seen in a mod and entirely irrelevant because you always have ample resources to use it anyways. So much ill will over nothing.

>>741418850
Don't care, oneshotting your dogshit decisions.

>>741418850
>Reforged is demanding but it isn't ever unfair
Lol, lmao

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>>741418992
Meant to post this.

>>741418850
Reforged is kino and i will never be gaslit into thinking it's trash
The gems placed around the entire map give you a good reason to fully explore every nook and cranny
the default sekiro deflect that is available on every weapon that can block
reverted how dual wielding works to how it works in DS2
absolute peak mod

>>741404414
The only times anyone at FROM has ever mentioned anything about modding it has always been:
>"Yeah, the players have made some cool stuff, what about it?"

They don't even seem to care about the fact that the community has more or less reverse engineered their engine , made their own multiplayer servers and that one team even asks for money for access. Which is fucking retarded and no one should pay for it solely out of principle but FYI, it's the worst "remake" mod for ER by far.

>>741419225
>The gems placed around the entire map give you a good reason to fully explore every nook and cranny
Yeah, once. I refuse to play it again until they add an option that just spreads all of the area's fragments into the bosses instead.

>>741409962
At this point we are going to see so many "remake" mods that the ME3 team needs to figure out how to do hot-loading and load order stuff without the game breaking since every modder seems obsessed with making their own little slice of content that doesn't work with anything else, it's eather that or some popular modder needs to reign in all the other good ones and make a mega "DLC" for the game that adds all the best parts of every other mod into a single mod.

>>741419465
I don't really understand why anyone would hate the runeforging system enough to think its gamebreakingly bad (or good). It's literally just like the deku nuts from BotW, there are way more than you'll ever need and they are literally everywhere. All you need to do is run around the edges of the map and you'll find tens of them at a time.

>>741419698
I never actually finished my reforged playthrough but are you not incentivized to pick up every single one of the runes? is there actually a cap on how many runeforging buffs you can get?

>>741419249
To add onto this, look up "Sword of Moonlight" and you'll learn that FROM has been one of few Japanese developers that have actively supported modding and they did it as far back as 2000. It kind of makes me hope that they'll do the same with their Souls engine one day.

>>741419698
Because I enjoy the added customization they offer but hate the way to acquire them? I don't understand why you wouldn't want the option to see it simplified to make repeat playthroughs less tedious.

>>741419698
The problem is it changes the entire dynamics behind exploration (which I already have an intrinsic motivation to do) into an obligation, and since you can only explore something once, these piece meal rewards just become a checklist to run through that are now informing how your navigate the world instead of being something you find organically.
>All you need to do is run around the edges of the map and you'll find tens of them at a time.
See, you even admit it.

These systems are nice on the first run (where my criticisms largely won't apply) but absolute dog when you want to play through the game more than once.

>>741419816
There isn't a "cap" in the traditional sense, it's more of a softcap since it gets harder and harder to find the remaining runes the more you find as you have no way to track which ones you've picked up and where, you only know your total amount picked up so far.

As for if the mechanic is needed or not, it's balanced in such a way that the boost it gives you is minimal to the point where you can honestly just completely ignore it and the game won't be any harder for it.

garden of eyes shits all over this sorry

>>741419487
the problem with this is that all of the data for a given type of data lives in its own single excel sheet basically, trying to merge the tables from multiple disparate mods automatically is a tall ask, and merging isn't as simple as 'last loaded is conflict winner'
And I'm not even sure what the process for trying to merge map edits/placements would be, probably a similar case of 'it's not that simple'
Bethesda modding has given lots of people unrealistic expectations of what modding a non-Bethesda game entails

741419951
low effort troll attempt
gonna need to try harder for a (you)

I tried Reforged once, then uninstalled it, looked up the creator and some of his comments, and immediately understood why I thought it was shit. He made a mod like how some of you faggots on /v/ used to harp on about "you didn't beat the game". Nerf shields, magic, and ranged options, nerf anything that isn't his specific idea of how the game should be played, and then say you made the game better by railroading the player. Oh, and the balance is dogshit, as has been mentioned at other points in the thread. Convergence is definitely a bit too easy than base once you have a build, but at least it gives you freedom to play the way you want, and the additions are all well done.

>>741420067
Magic is objectively better in Reforged to the point where you don't need to even use melee weapons.

>OP spells/abilites nerfed
>all rune farming spots nuked
>Hard level cap so you can't outlevel your problems
>spirit ashes nerfed hard
every complaint about reforged is because they had their crutch taken away

>>741420247
wut
Did you mean to write Convergence?

>>741417410
>>741412320
If you can't understand the drastic difference in design philosophy of Elden Rings design compared to ubisoft then you're an idiot. I can totally understand it not being to your liking, but saying they're the same only reveals your ignorance.
The way Elden Ring is designed is that there is a very intentional way to go through the game. The world starts of reletively small and expands gradually over time. Leading you to explore the world using your eyes and your head instead of just moving to icons on the map. The world is basically one long line that slowly leads you through the game, with each area gated of by a tough boss to stop you from just going wherever you want. There's also a very intentional quest order, progression curve and preserves the feeling of getting more powerful by letting you come back to places you've prevously been and completely stomp them, or find yourself somewhere you're underlevelled and making it through.
Convergence just says fuck it you have the entire map unlocked by default and starts you off in a random ass location without any direction or goal. It also gives you the ability to teleport across the map and basically skip half the game. They also freely give a bunch of "pick whatever talisman you want" kind of shit that basically invalidates a lot of the reason to explore. The "character quests" just tell you where to go to get the items you want.
That's what how ubisoft designs things. No progression curve or intended path you just fuck around in a directionless world going to the icons on the map the game tells you to because thats where it says to go.

By the way, I did actually find a mod that seems to be adressing some of the complaints I just made. https://www.nexusmods.com/eldenring/mods/8958?tab=description
No idea if it's actually any good but I might give it a go at some point.

>>741404414
>lies online
why, though?

>>741404796
>and turns it into a directionless ubisoft open world
The original was already like that.

>>741420442
>Infinite FP built in on top of tons of other ways to get more FP
>Catalyst attacks for poise damage
>Fortunes that buff repeated casts, alternating magic schools or spamming the same one
>Cast speed tied to Mind instead of DEX
Shit's pretty good.

>>741417392
>>741417219
If anything I'd want a mod that adds Nightreign's movement mechanics to Elden Ring.

>>741420067
>Nerf shields
Reforged made shields worth a damn with the deflect mechanic, though. In base ER they sucked just like in DaS3.

>>741414712
Everybody already played and finished elden ring dude. Mods like this are aimed at players who want new content, stop being stupid.

>>741419024
Literally just a palette swap ghost dragon. Not even a noteworthy fight

>>741421354
Of course an insufferable dragon fight with lingering hitboxes that disables Torrent just to annoy you further wouldn't be worthy of note in your retarded "argument"

>>741421447
Dragons are easy fights because we've all fought close to a hundred of them or more. We have their moveset memorized at this point. Fighting them on torrent is a crutch and entirely unnecessary. I don't remember fighting this guy for more than 15 minutes at most. He got me a few times but it wasn't memorable.

>>741421609
>I don't remember any specifics and I just spout generic Dragon fight shit to try and seem knowlegeable
Fucking tourist, go spam tranny flags in their Discord like a good drone instead of coming here to glaze their fucking asshole.

>>741421721
He's a reskinned ghost dragon anon with like one or two extra gimmicks. Lmao

>>741421779
His stomp attacks, IE the most common punish window for Dragons for any melee user, unleashes a delayed wave of destined death that knocks you over. And no, he doens't have the aggressive wing swipes Ghostflame Dragons have and otherwise just behaves like a normal dragon but with thrice the annoyance piled on because...???

You. Are. A. Tourist. Kill yourself.

>>741404235
Let me guess... Roll, roll, roll, roll, roll (repeat for five minutes), one attack string, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll.

>>741422005
>His stomp attacks, IE the most common punish window for Dragons for any melee user, unleashes a delayed wave of destined death that knocks you over
this sums up a lot of Reforged's supreme faggotry
>Oh this intended and deliberately designed way to fight an enemy for certain playstyles? Yeah that's gone now, figure something else out :^)
I spent more time wondering how they were going to make something arbitrarily more annoying and tedious than it has to be rather than wondering what cool stuff was up ahead
An object lesson on why some people absolutely should not be game developers

>>741411082
??? the level design in Convergence is far better than vanilla. Areas have actually challenging and mechanically engaging segments, and aren't a complete snoozefest

>>741404235
Are those custom attack animations?

that boss looks better than the default bosses. nothing is super fast, there is time between attacks, and incorporates the jump dodge that was neglected for every fight except the last few bosses.

>>741422005
The ghost dragons have frost aoe stomps anon. You aren't supposed to kill dragons just slicing their ankles you are supposed to headshot snipe for increased damage. It sounds like you never learned to fight dragons any other way than slicing their ankles or torrent drivebys. Not beating the all reforged complaints are skill issues allegations.

I liked the weapon catalyst from Reforged, Went around roleplaying as Dryleaf Dane.

>>741422859
>Headshot snipe
Whoops! We just nerfed Bows and Greatbows to have pitiful range and arrow dropoff! Enjoy your game! Oh, we also sped up every Dragon stomps and gave it the lingering cloud of damage that Ghostflame Dragons have, except theirs is much lower to compensate, you have access to Torrent for their fights and they're in an open field instead of a narrow bridge! Have fun!

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>>741404235
I'm ready

>>741404235
i'd try this but i have no interest in buying the dlc oddly enough

>>741424579
>he doesn't pirate DLC just so he can play obscure mods that have the DLC as a requirement

>>741420449
>By the way, I did actually find a mod that seems to be adressing some of the complaints I just made. https://www.nexusmods.com/eldenring/mods/8958?tab=description
Yeah, stay away from this one.

>>741424770
uuuuh sir?
the mod description explicitly states it doesn't support pirated versions....

>>741404235
Does this mod fix enemy attack spam so I can play the game instead of roll

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>>741424854
isn't that just referring to tech support?

>it's bad because... it's also on switch2 now!
you played the same tired garbage with RR7 remake lol

>>741422118
The Convergence mod usually lets you skullfuck whatever you're fighting with some combo of AOEs and damage over time spells.
You're stronger than a lot of the bosses.

>>741423190
I don't think he literally means ranged weapons.
Regular dragons in ER have a particular moveset which nearly always has them lower their head enough for even fists to reach (shields are kinda fucked if you are doing that, far too slow and short range). Idea is to bait an attack, dodge, and slap the head. Even without "throw knives to keep posture damage going" you will drop the dragon for a critical at least once during the fight. And honestly, I think dodging dragon attacks this way is easier.
Now ancient dragons, that's supreme cancer, I fucking hate them, they don't do anything listed above, and them I always kill by cutting their feet thousand times, nor not kill at all, most unfun fights in all of the ER. I'd rather kill 10 tree sneks and 20 asylum avatars than one ancient dragon.

>>741404414
Shazam lost.

>>741424854
https://www.reddit.com/r/PiratedGames/comments/1qo0occ/cracking_elden_ring_convergence/

>>741404235
can I get a QRD on this?
Is it just a bunch of stats reshuffing and wacky "new" bosses with reused movesets?

>>741425469
and to add, does it add new areas or is it still largely just elden ring's open world?

>elden ring but more retarded
I really don't see the point but ok glad you guys are hyped

>>741425469
The central focus is on making the class choice at the start of the game into a meaningful gameplay decision.
Every class has an intended progression path, with specific armor and weapons and potentially spell lootboxes that you have to track down. These will usually take you to a few thematically appropriate locations where you will collect said items and potentially spells. This is indicated by a list in your inventory.
The intent is not to do everything in a single playthrough, but to do successive runs where you play out a build and then come back for another different one later.

There are a number of added or remixed areas in the game to facilitate this.
For example, Carian Manor is probably three times as large in this mod, compared to Vanilla. Same with the DLC areas like the Fort of Reprimand.
Others have their progression paths changed, so that there is less of a 'mainpath - side path' delineation. Like in the case of Raya Lucaria.
Others are basically totally redone or added to the game. Like the second half of Nokron that would lead to the Twin Gargoyles is removed and replaced with a minotaur themed area with floating bridges and platforming.

New bosses are included in the mod and most classes will have to kill at least one OC boss to get their items.
Most are a hodgepodge of movesets from various other Souls games.

>>741422558
Convergence level design generally feels a lot more railroaded, as if they want to make sure you see everything before you leave.

>>741425843
Ah I see

>>741425908
I think it's their solution to making tight dungeons similar to Dark Souls without just running past the enemies on a horse

Reforged does it in a different way by making the enemies turbo aggressive and giving Torrent status effect damage

>>741425908
Redmane castle is a good example of that.
You basically walk every inch of that little fucker before they let you get to the boss gate.

>>741404235
Any Souls overhaul mod is just pure shit even if you polish it a bit.

>>741426586
cope
go back to console where enemies are too weak to apply real status effects

>>741425791
that's every content mod, they all suck and recycle stuff ten times worse than from ever would

>>741426586
I like Nightmare Rando.
It helps its significantly more honest.

First time playing overhaul mod.
So which should I choose for that playthrough?
Reforged or Convergence.

>>741426771
Conv

>>741426652
Have you tried to not shill garbage?
Convergence, Reforged, Convergence DS3, Archthrones, Cinders, etc.
They are ALL pure trash and a waste of time.

>>741426858
bro couldn't handle an enemy actually hitting him with status effects

>>741426947
You're getting hit? Seems like you suck.

>>741426771
Neither

>>741404235
>the malware installer will delete your pirated copy unless you crack it

kek @ trusting chinese scammers

>>741426652
>>741426947
didn't know there was a 'retarded' status effect
seems it's permanent for you kek

>>741426771
Do you like hitless runs or do you like action anime?
Reforged appeals to people that love the mechanics side of Elden Ring, Convergence appeals to people what want to be Frieren or Guts.

I don't get why you need to download elden ring mods beyond melee animations and other miscellaneous quality of life changes

>>741427103
It just doesn't recognize the copy, but it doesn't delete it.
I know that because I had to figure out how to get my pirated copy to work with the new installer. In the past I would just change the look-in folder in the .bat file, but with the new one it was a little more involved.
I posted a guide I found on reddit for how to trick the installer in the thread. It isn't very hard and I can confirm it works.

>>741427117
if you can't do modded challenge runs then get out the kitchen lil nigga

>>741427643
ew, retarded and black

>>741407292
I can't speak for the DLC part but one of the main things Convergence does is rework a lot of the legacy dungeons. Castle Morne is very, very different and much longer, for an early example.

>>741427721
I'm not black I just speak ebonics to the younger folk

Miyazaki bosses before
>Cool arena
>Interesting lore
>Great music
>Attack once per minute
>Die in 1 hit
Miyazaki bosses now
>Attack 1000 times per nanosecond
>100 phases with 10 trillion hp each
>Oneshot you

What happened?

>>741427801
>>Interesting lore
Never happened.

>>741417219
>especially now that the dumb fucking niggers have slapped Nightreign bosses into the base game. You know, bosses balanced around you having fucking SURGE SPRINT.
Yeah except they replaced literally the single worst boss in the game (twin gargoyles) with one so that's an instant upgrade.
Also all the NR bosses can be fought just fine with regular sprint. There's nothing about them that demands surge sprint.

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>>741412904
I think we finally found the greatest goyim.

>>741427770
Why would you stoop to their level

>>741428426
that's how you communicate with people

>>741427969
>getting filtered by the classic gargoyle boss
really?

>>741404235
this mod would be better if they didn't do some retarded things. they removed the bridge to the arena in leyndell, leaving your only route forward being having to climb an out of the way tree root OVER the wall, out of leyndall, over the fortified manor, then back down near the arena. and that's just one dumbass change.

>>741408896
What am I supposed to complain about here? The design, the name, or the (obviously, because it's a mod) reused moveset?

>>741428703
Don't let anons know that ER's Albinaurics have the same moveset as bone wheel skeletons from Dark Souls 1

>>741427734
i tried earlier this year convergence, got to the entrance of the stormveil castle and shit was full of ramparts with knights everywhere
basically they turned a little patch of early game gank into a death march with chokepoints
is this what i should expect from the rest of the mod?

>>741404796
You're brown.

So when does 3.0 go public?

>>741429054
You just zig-zag through the walls instead of beelining right past the ballista guy. No, I mean the legacy dungeons generally have reworked geometry and enemy placement.
Vanilla Castle Morne is
>run past the bow golem out front, grab the grace
>elevator up to the courtyard, kill or run past the misbegotten pyre
>optionally go past the pyre to pick up the claymore, can climb up a ladder here up to the top where there's a big skirmish to drop down to the progress path
>climb the ladder to the progress path, run past or kill the flying misbegotten, drop down and snag the grace
>optionally talk to edgar
>segment of dropping down behind the castle
>boss gate in the water behind the castle
While Convergence is:
>big winding streets before you even reach the castle grace, variety of misbegotten and perfumer enemies
>grab the grace before the elevator
>optionally continue past the entrance to the castle to a frenzy themed continuation of the streets where there's a new frenzy boss by the shore
>take the elevator up, the geometry is different and now there's a boss room before the courtyard with the pyre
>kill the boss, past the pyre, take the ladder up
>path takes you past edgar now (there's now a knight and a ballista on the way)
>drop down behind edgar, follow a couple of drops along a path above the elevator
>parkour along a tower battlement, a bow golem wakes up and starts shooting you on the exposed face of the castle
>takes you to the ladder last where you used to find the claymore
>optionally go into where the claymore was, there's now a few tougher enemies guarding an armory
>up the ladder, past the skirmish while being shot at by golem
>platforming along new stone spires to a new grace
>drop down section behind the castle
>now have to go up the ladder from the water up to the little battlement to pull a lever to open the boss door
>new boss where the misbegotten was
And this kind of thing continues for the other legacy dungeon areas I saw (pre-3.0).

>>741428465
You haven't played it, have you?
The classic gargoyle fight isn't bad at all. This is not that. You should know, that fight is complete nonsense.

>Mod made by faggots for autistic retards

BUY A FUCKING AD

>>741428465
Each Elden Ring Garg is harder than both DS1 gargs put together.
Bigger, faster, harder hitting, thicker cum shots.

>>741405198
People who say Lords Of The Fallen is bad literally have not played it.

>>741412402
He is the penultimate boss of the mod

>>741429054
Often so.
Redmane Castle has a stuff gauntlet before the castle itself if you don't take an optional parkour pathway around it.

>>741430010
I wonder if this is just one of the usual anti-ER discord retards shitposting because it's related to Elden Ring

>>741430036
The real issue is that retarded poison AoE they only have in that fight that for some reason rapes your health before you're even poisoned, covers a huge area, has a barely-there visual and they spam the shit out of it.

Can I pause this mod if I'm playing offline?

>>741430303
True dat.
Absolutely miserable fight.
I willingly take the route from the frenzied flame door down if I want to get to Deeproot.

>>741429861 (me)
I should add that while there's things I don't like about convergence, I'll say that their version of Castle Morne is way more memorable than the base game version. The original castle feels like an utter waste, while convergence's version does a good job of actually using the geometry of the level while providing a varied challenge. I don't remember if the other reworked areas were as good though.

>>741429230
The public test build is already out, but you have to go to their D*scord to download it

>>741429054
The beginning is really tough until you start to get key equipment for your class, then you start scaling out of control to keep up with the world.

>>741426771
If you want to just have a fun time and become even more op than vanilla while also being impressed by what modders are capable of play convergence.

If you want to git gudder play reforged.
t. reforged enjoyer

>>741430518
I think the only reworking I really didn't like was Leyndell.

>>741430379
Pull up your menu and click on one of the tutorial items you have in your inventory.
It pauses the game and works even in vanilla while you're connected to the internet.

>>741429230
If you download their special launcher you can just play right now.

>>741428508
Leyndell is really the main area that feels like they fucked with it just for the sake of doing so.
The vanilla map was basically perfect and the mod team's changes at best were sidegrades and at worse downgrades.

>>741404235
The Godskin fight is ok, but the Dragonkin fight is very solid.

>>741405198
I don't like spending money.

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>>741405198
I beat the Mortal Shell 2 demo yesterday and I'm looking forward to Convergence 3.0!

>>741408896
I'm glad that combo ends with the roll catch.

>>741412883
I wouldn't necessarily say it is DS2 2. At least to me, a very big thing about DS2 was interactive environments, and I don't know if any ER modder is capable enough of actually making such interesting environments.

>>741440257
Reforged is seriously like a bug fix mod. You don't even have to use the Codex of the All-Knowing and other fan made stuff they added.

>>741404414
he praised the seamsless coop multiple times

>>741416089
Fromsoft boss/enemy design has hit its very peak in Elden Ring, but unfortunately comes off as absolute bullshit at times due to player limitations. The problem is that the boss design is inconsistent enough that it's really hard to strike a balance without making the player too helpless or overpowered.

Makes me wish for a mod that regresses gameplay back to DS1.

>>741404414
Source?

>>741418850
>skill issue
I'm sorry anon, but if that's the first thing you say followed by you saying everyone is bad, then maybe you're just so good at games that devs should absolutely NOT listen to you.
>just tighten up timing and adapt
The problem is that adaptation is fucking time consuming if we're talking on the level of having to change an entire playstyle. It doesn't help that some fortunes that force you into a specific role will get outright hardcountered by certain encounters. The other big issue is with bosses. Some ER bosses were already pushing the limits of unfun design, but no amount of gameplay additions for the player will be as impactful when bosses still attack nonstop and input read you with few breaks inbetween. Base ER already had this issue, and Reforged just further exaggerates it.

>>741420826
The problem with shields mid-late game is that enemies will hit so hard that you can barely guard through more than three attacks, even with a dedicated shield fortune like Bulwark. Doesn't help that chip damage and status buildup gets so insane that you need to either deflect or pack immutable shield. At that point you might as well just two-hand a weapon and deflect only.

>>741420826
The shields are fucking worthless unless you go fully into them with Fortunes or abuse deflects, and at that point you might as well do it while twohanding your weapon for better Guard Counters.

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>>741406006
>anti-modding law exists
>that means FromSoft, company who has never even once tried to shut down a mod of any of their games is anti-modding because... UH IT JUST DOES OKAY?!

>>741414712
>MODS
>ARE
>CHEATING
No, mods are extra content added to the game entirely for free.

>PLAY
>THE
>GAME
>PROPERLY
>AS
>INTENDED
>BY
>THE
>DEVS
Already did that. Several times in fact, which is why I welcome new content being added to the game.

>>741439697
how is it?
the videos i've seen seem pretty promising

>>741404235
Why do modders always have to leech off someone else's work and work with their tools and yell 'Ta Da'? Why can't they make their own thing, their own IP?

>>741444702
So much better than Mortal Shell 1. The atmosphere is kino.

>>741444809
Because they're more honest people and true fans of the series rather than people trying to make a quick buck like Wukong and other Souls-likes

>>741444809
Passionate people have to start somewhere and modding is a good starting point.
It's not uncommon for modders to become full fledged game devs, so I wouldn't be surprised if the Convergence team makes their own game after they're done with Elden Ring

>>741444919
Hmm maybe I should have only mentioned Wukong. I think I had a good post here to anger Wukong fags.

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>>741420449
>drastic difference in design philosophy of Elden Rings design compared to ubisoft

>>741444809
Making a game is very hard, most people will never succeed if they try.
Modifying already produced assets is much easier.

There are more people that have designed levels in Garry's Mod than ever have done it in Unity.

>>741404235
Remember that time someone leaked the DLC Radahn fight and it looked so fucking bad people here thought it was a mod but it turns out that no, it was real and made by fromsoft and it really actually was THAT bad and still is? good times

Modders can probably cook up a better final fight for the DLC since fromsoft clearly lost their will to design fun fights in general. It's all bullet hell slop now, you attack once or twice every 5 minutes and your job is to look at the boss but not play the game until you figure out everything and then you try again and record yourself beating the boss easily after you practice and make a highly choreographed fight and video to cope when people call out shitty design. Anyway, the mod seems ok.

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I didn't think it'd do that

>>741446027
It was because the leak was unfinished. the completed Radahn fight looks completed, the only glaring flaw of it all is his sudden re-use of Pontiff's sword dance which makes Radahn look flamingly gay for some reason, but I guess having brainwashing boipussy on your back does that to a motherfucker.

>>741444809
The only prime souls modder I can think of is InfernoPlus, since he literally learned how to make custom animations and implement a working system just to add in fucking Halo weapons to DS1.
And now he's basically importing the entirety of Morrowind into ER, including the extensive dialogue trees for the actual story experience.

>>741446984
>get to play Morrowind in OpenMW, Ocarina of Time, AND Elden Ring
And people say it isn't the best Elder Scrolls

>>741446984
I feel like it'd be easier to give Morrowind Elden Ring combat over building that game inside Elden Ring.

>>741435006
>The enemies can kill you,
it's not a pause.

>>741449308
Tutorial pop ups actually freeze the game.

>>741446445
Smited.

>>741419901
Most intelligent post in this thread. Reforged turns Elden Ring's open world into what critics think it is.

When I first played Elden Ring, I explored every nook and cranny of the open world as if I was exploring the bearbug tunnels. In 2-2. Around the time that I reached Altus, I realized that this is not how you're intended to engage with the open world. Almost every meaningful discovery, however major or minor, is deliberately signposted to the player with landmarks, natural sightlines, enemies, or even NPC invasions. All those arteria leaf and rune pickups are a consolation prize for players who explore off the beaten path. There are actually only a few items and locations that the player won't discover by just following the natural flow of the open world's design - for example, the larval tears dropped by mimics, or the very well-hidden catacomb in snowfield (which does have a path of lights leading toward it, but these are hidden by the blizzard from afar). When you realize this, the open world stops being a soul-sapping, exhaustive checklist that you feel obligated to engage with. Reforged turns it into exactly that. It drove me up the wall.

>>741420826
Shields are amazing in Elden Ring, though. Medium shields are worth a damn, when they were worthless in DS3. The thing is that you have to actually build to use shields. Invest in stamina, equip shield- or stamina-related talismans, use the right shield for the right fight, and nothing's getting through your guard - and you'll have stamina for guard counters, too. There's even more options too, like using for physick for additional stamina or deflection, or using shield grease or magic shield.

Elden Ring was the easiest time I ever had doing a shield-only playthrough.

>>741450448
Shadow of the Erdtree addressed the complaint with scadutree fragments but people hated it so it's no surprise Reforged's rune pieces have a lot of dislikers

>>741450743
Right you can do all that or just press circle to dodge, which avoids everything, including grabs and unblockable attacks, for a fraction of the stamina and at 0 investment.

>>741451187
You got a lot more bang for your buck with scadufrags.

>>741451645
You can do that against bosses with harder and harder timings and more and more aggression.

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>>741451187
There's two important differences between scadutree fragments and rune fragments, though.
1.) Number. Outside of Soul / Rune level, FromSoft likes to increment character progression in nice, whole increments. The highest number of any resource you need to increase a secondary progression system is 6 normal smithing stones for the 3rd upgrade in a tier; and each time you use 2, 4, or 6 smithing stones, you're getting a significant upgrade. (Also, it's obvious where to find smithing stones: mines are one of the only pre-marked locations on the player's map, and smithing stone bell bearings are placed either in mines or on the player's path.) Reforged is the opposite experience: not only do you have to collect more rune fragments for an upgrade, those upgrades are less significant. It would be like collecting 12 normal smithing stones in vanilla Elden Ring and only getting 2% more base damage.

2.) Visibility. Almost every single scadutree fragment in the DLC is visually indicated to the player. Miquella's crosses, statues of Marika, Messmer's camps, churches, golden hippos, etc. All of these indicate to the player that there's a fragment there, and all of them can easily be seen from a distance. I think there's only like 3 or 4 fragments (and you don't need every one) that are actually a pain in the ass to find: one in Cerulean Coast, one in Abyssal Woods, and one below the Shadow Keep. With the exception of the one in Abyssal Woods, you're likely to find all of these easily while exploring. Rune fragments, on the other hand, are fucking everywhere, and there's a ton of them in obscenely obscure locations.

These two problems go hand-in-hand. No one wants to ride around the rim of the map for an hour just to collect 33 glowing rocks, each of which is 1/10th of a 1% increase to X stat.

>>741418850
>Reforged is demanding but it isn't ever unfair
More like the opposite, it's always unfair but the nerfs aren't extensive enough to prevent a player from making the game undemanding.

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>>741451947
Rune fragments just remind me of GTA IV pigeons if the pigeons had swallowed upgrades. Or a fraction of an upgrade, actually.