>>741411986
not a single thing

>>741411986
I've played the game for 50+ hours as a newfag, I like it but the knowledge check is a bit steep, especially when it comes down to crafting or upgrading items. The game is good.

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>>741411986
>same game like the previous one but worse
classic

The hammer/mace/whatever its called skill tree is fun, I saw alot of redditors seething about how they are boring and suck but I have been enjoying them. It puts you in alot of bad spots, but I love that 3 second charge slam that just deletes shit. Feels so good to use it. My take has to be they did skills well (just using the limited ones I have tried I feel good about it).

I feel like in theory I'd really like the PoE games. But there's too much autistic bloat that keeps me away from it
>skill trees the size of the sun
>all those retarded downloadable addons and jargon you gotta remember
I just wanna do cool builds and have fun.

endgame still feels like ass because theres 0 loot

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>>741412873
Filtered retarded brown faggot stay out you do not have IQ for the game.

>>741413164
I can't even remember the last time an item worth equipping dropped, the loot could just as easily be replaced with gold that you use to purchase items and nothing changes in the div/hr meta

>>741412873
poe is by far the worst game to be solo self found. trading on the market is essentially the endgame.

>>741413345
>dropped
Items don't drop in poe, they're bought. If you're not trading you will literally never progress.

>>741413442
yeah that was my point, it's a boring ass model

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>>741411986
the game was supposed to be released a year ago. and it was supposed to ge good.
What we get is a garbage demo for pretentious cum suckers, who sniff their own farts.
niGGGers fucked up theie chances and missed every deadline. Nobody cares anymore. Game is dead. There won't be another peak. No matter how much they will pay the "influencers" to play it every patch.
nerf and delet philosophy behind the dev is very bad too. complete anti fun.
also, it is now spy malware owned by chink ding wonk. not even a "western" philosophy anymore. Expect to see oranges, monkey heroes, Nephrite, peasantry uprisings, bamboo, a panda, and some historically cruel generals.
We will not get is Jackie Chan, the only good and fun thing.
picrel is a random screenshot I made long ago now to highlight the shite game design.

>>741412865
>skill trees the size of the sun
it's not really like that in practice, you mostly just grab survival and damage as relevant to your build, and you can just use a build if you refuse to look at it
>all those retarded downloadable addons and jargon you gotta remember
not true
if you've ever played an arpg before you're overqualified

>>741411986
Challenges are fun
Atlas is "better" but i'm not a fan of having to pick between atlas pts and league mechanic pts
No reflect mods makes this game 5000% times better than 1
Also WASD/twin stick controls are top tier for ARPGs
I only wish the servers weren't ass 90% of the time
>>741413164
Is there a decent guide for crafting, i'm saving all these orbs but never using them

>>741411986
dropped it after 60 hours as a newfag all the classes feel the same just a bunch of wizards

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>that "guy" that plays softcore trade and not SSFHC
LMAO

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>>741413495
>Nobody cares anymore. Game is dead.
What's your favourite game, out of curiosity? Currently.

>>741414465
I-it's my first time playing the game, h-how could I play H-Heroic?!

>>741414813
Anon more than 90% of those players are chink bots. One of the creators of poe2 used to own a fucking RMT site

>>741414813
I don't have a favorite. I own hundreds of video games, that I have player at one point or another throughout my life. And I'm not finished. Restoring full collection takes a lot of time.

>>741414967
Chinese got their own servers. You can also see by trade how active the game is (and I play SSF/HCSSF, but I follow trade patterns). The entire "bot" thing just doesn't hold up. Let it go.
>>741415097
Nice non-answer. Can you read charts at least? If a game with a peak of 200k is dead, what is anything below 50k?

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>>741415304
I don't use Steam. I don't care about the online numbers, because I'm not goyim. Whenever I played PoE it was exclusively SSF.
I play video games for myself, whatever I find fun. Whatever I want. My opinion is irrelevant, but most things are facts.
Also, just fyi, since you're trying to play the rational, objective game, the appeal to the masses is a logical fallacy. It has nothing to do with the quality or fun of the game.

Newfag here, is gemling the end game ascendancy? I see so many cool builds using gemling.

>>741415449
>say game is dead
>it's not dead
>well I dont care
good job anon

>>741415449
>Also, just fyi, since you're trying to play the rational, objective game, the appeal to the masses is a logical fallacy. It has nothing to do with the quality or fun of the game.
Correct. But what you said is that the game is dead and that no one cares. So the one who was appealing to the masses was you, not me. I only pointed out you were wrong. Now you're not just wrong, you're dumb too.

>>741411986
Literally nothing. Every single patch they release breaks something new.

>Endgame "rework" doesn't actually rework anything
>Every profitable farming strat gets nerfed after the streamers have made bank from it
>game literally has over 9000 bugs that aren't getting fixed
>game crashes every 5 minutes due to inherent issues with their shader coding, they don't even acknowledge this, gets worse with every update, happens to literally every player
>no apparent overarching game design philosophy, devs don't seem to know what kind of game they want to make
>balance is extremely poor
>introduce things to the game that they apparently hate and don't want in the game so they continually nerf them
>50% of the things they say in patch notes or bugs they say they fixed just aren't true

to cap it all off they JUST created a bug with the trade website that lets you see what unidentified items are, so bots went through and bought up the best ones for like 1/10th of their actual value. Not acknowledged at all by GGG.

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>>741415552
>say game is dead
it is. it doesn't have the numbers it used to. The game isn't even fucking released and already follows the same pattern the PoE (first one) did. Namely, new league -> less players -> quick fall off in a few weeks. And I can't undescore it enough: Every league there is less players than the previous one had, than the release had. This pattern is why the game is dying.
>it's not dead
no game is dead. I've recently replayed the RTCW. RTCW is technically alive, because people are still playing or replaying it. But that is not what "online live service game is alive and thriving" means, is it?
>well I don't care
I don't care, because I was promised the game will be released in 2025. What we have instead is a slow ass, and bad, development of some early access garbage. GGG told us this will not be the case. GGG told us the PoE one and two will be the same game. GGG told us the gem system will be different (aka all links will be available right off the bat, I member the trailer, that was the whole fucking point of the rework of the skill gem system).
GGG lied, and lied, and lies, and can't even release a proper game. They went down the "milk the leagues" road as soon as 0.2.
There is no interest in this game, it won't ever generate natural hype again. This is why it is dead.
>good job anon
too bad GGG did a very poor job.

>>741415796
correct. it is a live service. it depends on actual people paying actual money to keep the game afloat. the community is shrinking, the trend, the trajectory is why the game is dead.
It is dead in the same way world of warcraft is dead. understand?

Campaign skip doko? $10? $15?

>>741415935
You've already embarrassed yourself enough. Trying to bring up argumentum ad populum when it was you who first said it was dumb enough. Now comparing it WoW is truly something else.

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>>741416174
all I hear from you is ad hom, attempt to discredit me. It isn't even an argument. kek.
Also, I'm right and you're wrong, because you did not disprove a single point I have made so far. I doubt you have ever played the game, Elon. You're a paid shill.

Tencent shill thread

>>741412873
SSF is tough as hell because you don't have access to trade to sell things for the currency you need to craft. it's still doable of course, and it's not like you need minmaxed gear to beat endgame challenges but it is much harder.

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>>741415859
>game is dead
100k on steamcharts while it's a multiplat and also not even locked to steam on PC isn't bad. you guys have a really distorted view on if a game is alive or not

I played the beta release. Finished one playthrough. Don't know how long it took me. Maybe 30 hours or so. It was fun but I really didn't want to play further.

>>741416319
>>741416485
Mental illness.

I dropped an Aldurs Legacy today in a grand expedition for 300 divines!

nobody even likes this game its like those f2p chinese warzone clones
>hey I like this
and all of the people are like paid shills or retards

>>741414164
There are guides on youtube that go really in depth. To simplify it use breach tree to get rings/belt/amulet. Rest when it drops it will have a tier unidentified from 2 to 5. If it is a blue item if you want a sure mod use essence if it is a rare greater exalt(2) and slam but leave 1 mod open. Use desecrate for last mod. Hot tip for casters you can buy a cheap staff with decent mods and cast speed but no +skills (this is a suffix). You can use essence of sorcery for +5 all skills it however replaces a mod so you have 1/3 chances to replace your good suffix. Does not matter its extemely cheap and you will hit good after 5 tries max and now you can do all endgame. Same goes for any weapon. REMEMBER you can only have 1 crafted and 1 desecrated mod on an item. There is a rune that allowes 1 more but that is advanced stuff this is enough for now

>It's another Delwyn won't shut the fuck up episode

SPIRIT'S WILL BE DONE!

>>741417406
Did Jonathan fuck your mom or what?

I just want marauder already.

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>>741416421
>SSF is tough as hell
PoE 2 is easier than PoE 1 because it puts more emphasis on mechanic skill than gear checks. Example the new Pinnacle Boss of Expedition is cool but its essentially just a giant monster boss from Souls games, where you can easily dodge 90% of its attacks by just burying your face in its ass and occasionally getting away when it starts its stomp attack animations.

Bodach also has pretty simple mechanics, its just bigger meaner version of Geonor but without chill or freeze effects. Really cool boss though.

https://youtu.be/vDIgB_bDWqQ?si=Y34tjYkY52fiLJ-p.

The overall nerfs from the first version of the game plus the ability to not have to deal with the absolute fucking garbage that was trading in favor of the new stash tab has made the game a bit too easy. They could probably get away with reverting some of the difficult content now that it's significantly easier to grab the gear you need due to the fact you don't have to deal with some fuckhead who is either AFK, in a map, or is some scamming goblin.

>>741419681
That's just Mega Satan from Isaac

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Got raped by Frozen Mandibles again.

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The devs have good fetishes.

>>741411986
>What went so right?
Everything. Shitters are just seething because it's not a second monitor game anymore.

>>741411986
>Still no swords

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tencent praise thread

>>741419681
You spend maybe 0.001% of game time fighting bosses, theyre basically just a minigame. The ACTUAL game is mapping, and there is absolutely zero skill involved in the situation of having 50 hasted, roided up giga niggas running your ass down. In POE 1 you can get any ssf build up to t16 no sweat, hell experienced players might not even buy anything at all until red maps just unintentionally. Poo 2 is gear checks all the way down, even from campaign. Bossing turning the game into dark souls for 1 minute is irrelevant.

>>741411986
martial artist is fun. too bad he's probably gonna get giganerfed next season.

>>741411986
>wtf I have to press more than one button! NOOO this is awful!
I've only played around 250 hours and hardly and of PoE1 but why do I see people sperging out over "one button builds" so often, I have 6 skills active currently and 90% of the time I'm only using 3 of them and it's still easy to play, are people just retarded and want to spam left click none stop?

sprint and dodge roll were a huge mistake

>>741422101
How'd you solve this problem?

I really want to make a mjolner build, but I'm too much of a brainlet to know what class should I try it on, and if it's something even remotely viable

I recently finally finished the interludes and are at the endgame area for the first time. What do I need to know?

>>741412197

The knowledge thing becomes ridiculous in maps when there's 50billion different kinds of currency and mechanics.

>>741414392
I know this feel. At some point no matter what class you are it feels like you're either shooting lightning or slamming fire or casting ice. How to get away from this everyone is magic feeling? Isn't there a class that can?

>>741425621
Beeline the fortress. The outside maps don't give you atlas points.

>>741425829
I was doing a pathfinder crossbow build where you literally just shoot and when they die they explode with poison but I got bored at lvl 65. I'm gonna wait for a thief/warrior class

>>741425896
How do I manage way stones? I got like 10 tier 1s from interlude so I guess I use them all now for the fortress?

>>741425896
some do for other league mechanics.

>>741411986
It's fun, but currently too easy. They buffed up player power but don't really have anything to challenge the players.
>Pinnacle bosses have no ubers, even mediocre builds kill them in like 5 seconds
>Vaal temple gutted (deservedly so) and you can't have like 10000% monster effectiveness enemies anymore
>200% Delirious is the hardest the game gets, was literally bugged up until yesterday
Overall this is a patch that I think fixes a lot of the game's end game issues but I am disappointed that GGG once again took the easy way out and intentionally held back content for the 1.0 release

The uber bosses are finished. They were in the game before. Difficulty 4 Xesht is way harder than the current Xehst. But they removed the uber fights or didn't put them in just so they have another bullet point for 1.0, which is cringe. Oh well, my complaints are minor compared to the improvements.

Shill me some SSF builds for the new league. I've not been able to find anything that interests me.

>>741426220
Bear druid

>>741411986
basically the first league of poe2 where i didn't get bored after finishing the campaign and doing maps. its crazy because I never had this issue with poe1, maybe it was because there is so much more to do in poe1 with like 7 different league mechanics you can choose from, i feel like my one issue is now you don't even have to spec into a specific mechanic you just unlock them all by doing the related maps but still its the most fun i've had with poe2.

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>Try Mercenary at launch
>He felt and cleared like shit
>Try wolf/bear Druid when he came out
>They both feel like shit
Great game

>>741426480
So is the only answer just to always play spark stormweaver?

poe players hate poe but keep playing it
i dont get it

>>741426638
I like it though

>>741426638
it's a drug

>>741426480
Mercenary is really good right now. All his ascendancies are pretty powerful.

>>741411986
Still huge stink

>>741426252
Anything else? Holding down right click and rampaging everywhere loses its appeal after a couple hours.

>>741411986
Absolutely nothing.

>>741427379
How to tactician? When I read minions I thought you could be like a mini general army commander but that's not how it works apparently? Or is it? I have no clue what I'm doing I just unlocked it not too long ago and am still in act 2
Doesn't help that before I played witch so this feels like a 180 and I don't understand a thing about any of merc or tactician while trying to apply witch logic and failing

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>>741419681
I don't even know what the pinnacle bosses do. I kill all of them in like 10 seconds except Bodach because he's too big for my mirage archer to always detonate my stormblast bolts. Can you even fight them at a higher level or is it just a version you fight during the quest and a slightly stronger one with whatever item?

>someone makes indian joke in global
>say 'DO NOT REDEEM IT'
>get banned for 20 days

GGG hires shitjeets to do their moderation, and they are extremely butthurt. Don't give them any money and don't give them any of your time.

>>741427603
i made a joke like that and all i got back was hahahahaha XD lmao bruh.., EU btw

>>741427485
I believe you want to go for supporting fire with tactician. Also can't go wrong with mortar cannon.

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>>741411986
I just 8/8'd the league yesterday, and can confidently say everything went right. Literally everything they did in the 5.0 update was correct. If they just do bugfix/balance patches until 1.0 I'll still be happy.

Is this the "D4bad" thread?

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>>741427671
But what about my army? At least a squad lead? I got that spirit skill to place a banner and I through oh I see I put this down to buff myself and my squad while we shoot shit to death
But that's not how it works?

>>741424882
remove them and rebalance boss attacks that previously required them, simple as

>>741427774
Your banners should boost any mortar summons you use. Unfortunately there aren't any actual soldiers/mercenaries you summon directly to fight alongside you.

>>741427742
Nobody thinks about D4 even in other threads

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>>741415449
>My opinion is irrelevant
we know

>>741411986
i just wish there was something more to do, the end game bosses are far too weak so theres nothing to challenge or push, bring delve back asap so i can push floors

>>741427865
>Unfortunately there aren't any actual soldiers/mercenaries you summon directly to fight alongside you.
Aw fuck
Well I guess I already got this far with him
I even got a cool unique crossbow that gives me infinite ammo for a while after reloading
And I had a very lucky unique armor drop that was +100 to spirit and my eyes already lit up thinking I'd be like playing WC3 or something with an entire squad of riflemen and foot soldiers empowered by my banner
Kind of disappointed now

>>741411986
I just hate how the early game is such a snore fest. If you're playing a Warrior, movement and attack speed feels insanely sluggish, and certain skills like Spark (while some of the most powerful in the end game), are the least satisfying shit ever when you're starting out with a mage build.

>>741428075
>unique crossbow that gives me infinite ammo for a while after reloading
>unique armor drop that was +100 to spirit
Those are actually the core uniques for the early mapping version of another tactician build that stacks personal buffs if you're willing to pivot away from minions. I think the +100 spirit helm or chest is used in the minion version too though.

>>741428690
I guess that's good news. I'll just push on and see what happens then

>>741428075
Rampart Raptor?
If so, congrats. Assuming you're in Runes of Aldur (a fuckboy named Farrow shows up and babbles about Runes at you), that weapon can carry you through the whole-ass game.
Once you unlock Unique weapon upgrading from the Rune bullshit, you can upgrade your Rampart Raptor (twice!) and it'll be viable endgame at that point.

>>741428876
I totally forgot about what >>741429441 said too, upgrade the rampart raptor. Get decent flat damage rings, you won't need to worry about scaling until high delirium t15s when you'll be looking at very expensive rings.

Does having multiple entangles overlap do anything?

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>>741427774
Coming soon

>>741429938
Boosts the total amount of movement speed penalty they have.
I forget the exact conditions, but you can get it up to -90%.
-90% still feels like nothing, but yeah.

>>741429441
>>741429804
Yeah the raptor and yes I've been doing Farrow up till now
It's pretty fun to use I can either reloading and keep doing this single shot skills or go full auto with armor piercing rounds
One thing I found to work pretty well up till now was armor piercing rounds until their armor breaks then switch the high velo round on reload which normally is 1 but with my weapon can keep firing a lot and it is melting bosses so far
I'm up to deshar now but I want to see how it does against jamanra. I remember back then on my witch way back he was a tough one
I'm not sure what else I should be doing though especially now that I am a tactician

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>>741430013
Oh shit!
Is this going to be next patch or 1.0? I want to believe

>>741430013
>nofriends gem

>>741430059
No extra damage then? Doesnt seem worth the cast

>>741430262
We don't know. This gem has been in the files for a long time and there was an entire Poe 1 league where they tested this mechanic. Since it's been given alt quality effect it will most likely be included in 1.0 or maybe even sooner.

>>741430367
I see
Hmm
Inspecting it closer it does seem to be just one equippable merc like in D2
Not really an army of footmen and riflemen though
I've also been reading that tactician can still do this kind of thing but with skeleton warriors and archers. But I kind of wanted a human army and to be a human squad leader. The class just really isn't what I thought it was but since I got such lucky unique drops I'll just keep going and see

>>741411986
TUB

>>741430146
Very recently, Jamanra actually had his HP nerfed. By "about 17%" like a week ago.
The Dreadnought zone was also shrank to just 1 really big area instead of 2 big areas back to back so the leadup to him is less shit too.
>I'm not sure what else I should be doing
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
But feel free to toy with other stuff like Weapon set passives to beef up your debuffs or some shit. It's a bit of an involved process, but opens up a lot of build potential:
You can lock your current weapon to both weapon sets by right clicking the I and II buttons above your weapon (assuming you don't wanna use 2 separate weapons)
>Then use the Weapon set buttons top right of your passive tree to assign passives to Set 1 (Red) or Set 2 (Green) (it costs 1 Skill point to allocate, but you get 1 red and 1 green per Skill point spent this way)
>Go into your Skill Gems and tick the boxes so you use a skill with a specific Weapon Set and you'll automatically switch when you use that Skill
What a lot of people will do is use a Lightning Skill + a bunch of Lightning passives on Set 2 to put a big Shock on a strong enemy so they take more damage, then go back to their other Skills, which are on Set 1.

>>741430302
I'm fairly sure it does more damage. Each individual Fissure can damage enemies.
Which is also why Branching Fissures is such a strong support.

>>741415826
>created a bug with the trade website that lets you see what unidentified items are, so bots went through and bought up the best ones for like 1/10th of their actual value
I fully expect this to be a deliberate bullshit they did for reasons related to whales, streamers, and organised syndicates who run these bots.

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>>741430624
Interesting change
I'm really not quite sure what I'm doing just aiming for damage or speed I guess. I was going to try for the minion ones but there's nothing close and if the minions don't work the way I thought anyways then it seems like there's no point

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>>741420909
True and real

>>741431397
Yeah, you're doing fine for now.
More damage works up into Maps, then you can respec into some defenses.

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>>741431397
And the weapon
I just used everything I had on it kinda

>>741431562
Ye. It's a good weapon. Sadly, you'll have to reach level 38 and get a specific semi-rare drop from Runes (can buy one if in Tradecore) before you can upgrade it.

>>741431397
if you really dont want your memes to be dreams then you can turn any mob in the game into a pet using the raise specter skill.

already over it. waiting for a wipe, they are apparently doing multiple of them.

>>741435473
Oh that's a good idea
Then I can get those iron crossbowmen from geonors manor ramparts

>>741436317
Spectres are almost always overpriced in spirit cost which hurts the most early game, so dont be surprised if you can only raise 2 of them even with 100 bonus spirit. You can get a lot more spirit late game. There's also a leveling socketable for spirit, rune of blossoming iirc? it gives 50 spirit but gives less as you level up.

>>741411986
>200k players
but 4chan said it was dead

>>741436317
Those ones suck. The expedition crossbowmen will work for you, they're both good and fit the theme.
Black Scythe Arbalist from act 2 expedition location

>>741436673
>>741436575
Oh
Thanks. That's sounds much better

All this talk has made me want to try playing specters. What's the best class and ascendancy for that?

>Still no melee class that isn't a nigger
No money for you then

>>741437709
Any class can use a mace, quarterstaff, talisman, or even their bare hands.

>>741437709
monk
mercenary
druid
ranger
Other classes can also be melee if you try hard enough

>>741437709
Monk?

>>741437820
Ricenigger

I hate how big some of the zones are and how cancerous some of the rng layouts in the campaign can be. Sprinting doesn't fix the problem, just reduce the zone size.

>>741437709
retard + third worlder

>>741438004
If you want straight lines go play diablo 4

>>741438004
It's only a problem on your first playthrough. The layouts are actually very simple and easy to remember.

>>741437709
>money
um it's free
if you know how to get a free EA key ;)

>>741411986
Actually having guidance and quests leading you through endgame mapslop is a great change.

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Doomsissies lost so hard they went extinct.

>>741437778
Yes but it just doesn't work as well, no point doing it

>>741438128
I don't think so, I put like 400 hours in and there are some where it just feels permanently fucked. Off the top of my head Ogham Farmlands always feels shit. Its weird cause I never had this problem Grim Dawn despite the game being considerably slower. Something about POE2 always just ends up rubbing me the wrong way.

>>741437474
I heard infernalist is popular since they get a companion and a bunch of spirit.

>>741438506
that's because grim dawn has handcrafted levels with no randomization

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>>741438598
Is that it? It's like 100 spirit if you have 3k life. That doesn't sound very good. A shaman gets about the same amount just by not using charms, but I'm not playing him because I already have a shaman in this league.

>>741437474
aren't spectres still shit and you're better off just using companions aka the superior spectre

>>741415450
It's the RMTer endgame ascendancy.

Ahh, I'm gonna try it out. I am looking forward to playing a sword and board character. I do this in every game because every game of this kind has this.

>>741439206
..................................

Why does this game make random people seethe so hard? The devs aren't obnoxious woketards, there's no garish colors everywhere, the art direction isn't bad, it's not expensive. I don't get it.

>>741431402
>she offhandedly mentions that she hasn't bathed for months when getting to Kingsmarch
Imagine the smelle

>>741439251
because it's a lot worse than poe1 and ggg will eventually abandon poe1 when poe2 is successful enough so people are understandably mad about it

>>741439251
People are being filtered. You will not have fun if you refuse to understand the mechanics and delve deeper into the build building, just as you will not have fun if you simply copy other people's builds. There are also a ton of Poe 1 losers who are just so angry that their game is essentially on life support because of Poe 2

>>741438361

retard

I find the implication of everyone but the old woman and blind girl being against lesbians in act 2 very funny.

>>741439251

Some people want everything to be slop like genshin impact and get mad if a game doesn't stoop to their level

>>741439567
>because it's a lot worse than poe1
It's just PoE 1 with better graphics at this point

>>741411986
>hit maps
>progress as far as I can before getting filtered
>buy $10 worth of divs from a gold seller site
>get an expensive perfect build that blasts through everything
>get bored like 20 hours later and uninstall until next season to repeat the cycle
yep, it's gaming time

>>741411986
what keeps people playing these games league after league despite it being exactly the same every single time?

>>741439251
It's poe1tards falseflagging

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>>741439251
If there is one thing I hate the most about humanity, it is lying about everything, but mostly even small things, in order to get ahead.
And niGGGers lied to the playerbase, to me. Multiple times. And the worst things is? They're still lying about small stuff.
Sure you couldn't finish the campiagn or release the game in 2 years. Release is such a priority for you, niGGGers, that all you do is "balance" nobody gives a shit about and shitty ass leagues.
We/I was promised the game would be released by the end of 2025 at most is the most obvious lie.
Why fucking lie to us when opening the early access? The industry has told so many lies since the late 00's, that I'm just done with anybody telling me even the smallest lie. There are tens of thousands of good, already released, video games to play. Why would I waste my time/life on this horseshit? Correct, I won't.

>>741440154
new mechanics
trying new builds
dont know how poe2 has so many players when everything feels the same though we don't even have fucking swords

>>741440154
Absolutely insane amount of content and different playstyles. There are some mentally ill people who play the same builds over and over again from league to league, but most people try different things every time.

>>741440209
You have some points but you're ESL.

>>741426220
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vT2qJPK79nY?feature=share

>>741439775
in some ways but build diversity is extremely bad and the passive tree still sucks and is boring

>>741430557
best you and I can hope for is a paid cosmetic altering the skeleton minions to be humans

>>741441115
Oh

>>741437709
There are several Gemling builds that use hammers and work very well in endgame, anon... but you probably already knew that and just want an excuse to shit on the game.

>>741437709
why be melee when you can get a monkey that melees better

Is Gemling or Titan better for an unga-bunga mace build? I assume the other ascendencies for merc and warrior are worse for maces. I'd prefer not to use a shield and just use a two hander.

>>741415859
>Every league there is less players than the previous one had
LOL That is factually incorrect:

>June 2025 (Mercenaries League): 179k players
>October 2025 (Keepers Leagye): 185K players
>March 2026 (Mirage League): 190K players

>>741443769
Wow destroyed him
Facts don't care about your shitposts

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I guess it's PoEsissies turn to not have a endgame in their game

>>741443675
it's easier to stack strength on titan but I've seen a build for gemling that has infinite uses of that glory skill that calls down a big hammer from the sky

>>741414164
>Is there a decent guide for crafting, i'm saving all these orbs but never using them
the game doesnt have crafting
it has gambling
Last Epoch has crafting(but its a shit game)

>>741446737
last epoch is alright, but it is very easy to play. campaign is straight dogwater though, I dunno if I can play through that shit a 5th time. but I like the skill tree stuff, though mapping is pretty straight forward because of the lack of mapping mechanics. even PoE2 has it beat already in that regard

>>741446737
I like last epoch a lot; its crafting, trading, and solo self found mechanics completely blow POE out of the water. Every ability having its own skill tree is way better than POE's support gem system, too.

but yeah like >>741447026 says, it only has one league mechanic in its maps (primal beasts)

>>741446332
>it's easier to stack strength on titan
Why is that? Does their small passives bonus really give them that much more strength? How many small passive strength nodes even are there?

>>741448517
the SSF in Last Epoch is literally objectively the best that ever existed or ever will, I dont see how it could be approved YET I doubt anyone will use it ever again in another game

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>>741443675
Titan, Gemling gets some great QoL but 50% MORE (more = multiplicative) armor and 15% MORE life + the insane 50% stronger smaller nodes makes Titan better. You can also go into giga slams with Titan.
Gemling's defensive tool also doesn't work on melee builds, you will lose all your motes halfway through your attack animations.

>>741448851
I fucking wish POE had the balls to implement such a player-friendly mechanic.

>Don't want to engage in cancerous streamer-driven trade economy? Ok, your drop rates are doubled and here's an entire magic-find progression system.

But no, everything that drops must be shit so that only chinese botters can find the .1% of items that are good and distribute them to the rest of the playerbase. Fucking obnoxious.

>>741448620
bunch of reasons, warrior starts on the side of the passive tree with a bunch of non travel STR nodes, there are 2 4% increased strength ascendancy nodes on the way to the increased strength on passive nodes ascendancy skill. there's also brute strength I think it was called, which gives 1% damage per 15 strength right next to giant's blood. it isn't impossible to path over to that side on gemling, but you do miss out on the gains that titan can provide.

>>741449067
Buy stash and market tabs, goy

balancing endgame when they don't even have everything implemented is just one of those confusingly pants-on-head decisions
>i'm going to balance my endgame
>yes perfect i have no balanced my endgame
>why do you keep asking about swords? i'll implement new basic fukken shit after i finish balancing my chinese RMT grind endgame!
like imagine if WoW had balanced endgame raids with only half their classes implemented. ggg dunno what the fuck they doin man

>>741449376
>balanced
lol you must be new here

hello where are the swords?

>>741449376
do you think nobody is working on 1.0 while someone bug fixes delirium

>>741449376
It makes more sense when you realize that POE 2 is a mismash of two games: POE2 and POE1.

POE2 is supposed to be a slow-paced skill-based ARPG, but it's unfinished. Tencent wanted GGG to launch POE2 even though it is unfinished, so GGG had no choice but to patchwork the final half of the game with POE1 mechanics.

The only problem is that POE1's endgame mechanics are simple logistic number checks designed for POE1, not POE2, and so they fundamentally clash. That's why we get POE2 deliberate souls-like bosses alongside POE1 cracked out rare mobs that move at the speed of light and one-shot you. It's a balance nightmare trying to marry the two systems.

In theory they could have used the POE1 endgame as a half-hearted stopgap while they finished POE2, and then they could make POE2's endgame. But it looks like theyve decided to go all in on POE1's endgame and reworking POE2 to fit instead.

When the objective is to efficiently clear hundreds of maps full of thousands of monsters then there's no room for slow-paced, deliberate combat. There's the dissonance.

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>>741411986
Temu Diablo

>>741415859
>it doesn't have the numbers it used to
what the actual fuck are you talking about
the game broke its previous concurrent record with 0.5 and the player retention is higher than any prior PoE2 AND PoE1 league
you are such a shit flinging retard

>>741430262
It might already be in the game, people just haven't found how to unlock it. People have datamined lots of passive nodes, ascendancy nodes and it's all been hidden shit that has specific unlock requirements, similar to the Abyssal Lich ascendancy.
I am playing a Chayula monk and apparently there's a hidden node that is unlocked from Breach

>>741450857
Diablo has been Temu since 3
The moment they abandoned 2's aesthetic, it went to shit, visually and gameplay-wise

>>741450857
transgender franchise

>still no swords
>still trying to make it appeal to poe ZOOM ZOOM GO GO GO one button press map clear simulator niggers and poe slow methodical combat chads making both sides mad
>Still missing crusader
>ascendancys STILL fucking suck cock except for like one node in like 3 trees out the rest (lol instead of making a crossbow focused ascendancy lets just make a shitty and clunker version of scion instead LOL)

>>741427485
Tactician is absolutely busted with the 50% reduced spirit reservation costs. I used the build last season where you spammed shockburst arrows and summoned a clone by dodging to detonate them with explosive shot. Blew up every boss in seconds.

>>741450857
D4 is Temu D4

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>>741452114
Diablo 4 mogs 2

>>741452770
you may be right but no one bought or plays d4 so we will never know

no it doesn't, you're LARPing and baiting for (you)s
d4 has no real fans, only marketers and paid trolls

My SSF Disciple has good enough defenses at 6K ES (mostly), but I just don't have enough damage/clear for the content.
What other builds could I roll that'd improve this situation?

>>741412104
thread should of ended right here

>>741452952
Anything that scales without needing a good weapon like a spell or a minion. Spirit walker can tame unique bosses with the mighty silverfist standing out as a good option that will carry through maps.

>>741411986
wait was it actually a good patch? I skipped because I figured we were close to release so I could wait

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>>741453683
it is kino

>>741453624
I have one of those in Trade and it really doesn't lol.
Once you get the Map version with some good mods, it's good enough to carry you, but it actually falls off a bit in maps without +Gem levels.
Sadly, farming for a boss version is a huge thorn in the ass since:
>The Tablet mod for it is rare
>You need 3 of them
>AND ALSO run Jado with only a 17% chance to get enough buff effect to turn +3 boss mods into +4 (used to only require 2 Tablets and had a 20% chance to double them, fuck you)

>>741411986
I downloaded the first game, always wanted to try this kind of game.

cringe marketing jeets constantly pushing this live service slop

>>741454591
you lost dilator

>>741454791
you're one of the trannies from the shitposting discord I can tell

>>741455284
>*schizo delusions*

>>741411986
desu, act 1 is the only good part of the game right now. it's slipping back into poe1 no button gigarun speed clearing maps atm

>>741415097
kwab

>>741415304
>You can also see by trade how active the game is
Yes, those are the chink bots he was talking about.
>>741413495
I played it for a few hundred hours when it first came out until the first season ended and I don't see myself going back because the game is just an eternal timesink and an incredibly unrewarding one at that.
Unless you're farming with a team the drops are dogshit, the currency drops were dogshit, the gear drops were dogshit. The game is designed for bots and currency farmers.

>>741458397
>an eternal timesink and an incredibly unrewarding one at that.
>the drops are dogshit, the currency drops were dogshit, the gear drops were dogshit. The game is designed for bots and currency farmers.
completely agree. The issue, imo, is focusing on irrelevant things instead of core issues like these.

>>741411986
Every time I open a stream of this game I watch for 5 seconds, someone does a stupid dodge roll that looks so clunky and awkward I immediately cringe and turn it off. Just instantly putrid smelling.

>>741412865
I only use Exile Exchange for quick price checks on drops, and loot filter obviously, but that's all. You genuinely don't need anything else, I don't even use Path of Building anymore since it's a lot easier to get a T15 viable build going in PoE 2 compared to PoE 1 by just picking obvious stuff and tweaking it later.

>>741411986
Zealandian kino, simple as

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Completed all this league's challenges and went back to POE1 because no loot and the endgame is just spamming Deli + favored mechanic to get the same two belts and lineage stuff. Dishonorable mention to no mobility skills and both trials which suck complete ass and made me genuinely miss Lab.

>>741426480
wolf was almost as good as as wyvern when druid came out, and wyvern was op as fuck, I didn't touch bear because it's slow.

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>>741411986
Game is exceptional but has one glaring flaw, no hybrid input. They promised it for .2 release and yet here we are all this time later with nothing to show for it. I doubt we'll ever get hybrid input. You'd think they'd have at least implemented full native steam input API but no... they've got other ideas. Most of which are retarded.
I want to use analog input for WASD movement on my HE keyboard in this game but the devs are too busy getting shitfaced 24/7 as is the Kiwi way. I also want to be able to kick back in my chair with my Steam controller utilizing analog movement and accurate mouse aim on the touchpad but again, the studio is populated by rampant alcoholism. Shame.

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>>741415449
>I'm better than you because I choose to use a different launcher
Now THAT is pathetic. We're on /v/ and you've still managed to stand out among the pathetic dregs of society that inhabit this board. Bravo anon. Bravo.

The game is bad, it has too many fucking instakill shit, plus, more than once rolling to get out of an attack my character has become stuck to the boss, basically forcing me to take the damage for no reason besides it's bugged.

>>741464106
He's right though
Steamie cultist are fucked in the head

>>741464271
Skill
fucking
issue

>>741411986
Is the game free to play yet?

>>741411986
Boring dogshit with terrible mapping, I quit yet again right around T11 maps. Just boring I dont want to play this pachinko garbage. What a waste of money. I'll try again at launch

>>741453035
>should of
Why are americans so retarded? Can't even speak their own native tongue.

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>>741411986
no fishing for your pet

>>741466440
just say you couldn't follow a simple build guide and got raped

>>741466620
The game is easy anon, T15 maps arent difficult. My other builds did T15 just fine and I made my own, its just not fun its the same exact thing every game. One button kill everything on the screen, do it again, do it again, do it again, and again. Then there is the map "variety" which all blurs together and feels the same. I get that you don't like gameplay so seeing screen flashing blob aoes that kill everything is your definition of fun. Getting your resistances to 75% capped with high armor(realistically its gonna be energy shield) and all the other values to whatever your build deems necessary is your version of a good time then you are simply goyim, as Jonathan likely calls you in private.

>>741466862
So you admit to being filtered then?

didn't read u mad

>>741439369
That isn't exactly true. She says she hasn't had a bath. I am just hoping that means she hasn't had the chance to soak in a hot tub, not that she has simply refused to clean herself.

>>741427485
Tactician can be built in a few different ways:

Supporting Fire/Minion maxxing
Bannerman
or my favorite, the Pin stuff.

Pin is fucking broken, if you get the two nodes that let all projectiles build up pin and pin stops them from doing anything you basically instantly stun everything when you shoot it. You also get 50% spirit efficiency (more auras) and even some armor as deflection. It is just really good.

>>741453683
Overall? Very good but super buggy dude. They just did a patch that fixed delirium basically doing nothing.

It makes all of the end game league mechanics way better and they all have a questline. The end game now feels like it has a proper post-game campaign. I played a lot the first week.

>>741467648
>>741467547
Why are people saying shit like
>>741466862
Then?

>>741468307
You're obviously retarded so just listen to the guy complaining and don't bother to install it.

dude got filtered by t11s LMAO

>>741415859
>I don't care about numbers
>proceeds to sperg about numbers
lol

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>>741467648
>It makes all of the end game league mechanics way better and they all have a questline.

rofl, so now instead of just doing the league mechanics you are now forced to do the shitty questline every single reset? Nice one I'm sure that won't get old fast.

By the way, none of the league mechanics got "way better", they're exactly the same as before
>press the thing on your map
>monsters spawn on top of you
>1/1000 chance to get some monopoly money
That's literally every single one, all extremely boring, shallow variants of "spawn monster on player", even calling them mechanics is going too far

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>>741453683
Great patch but a lot of bugs. Yesterday had the game crash on Xesht because one of the Atlas passives that turns Rares into Boss Lites spawned one of the Breach Rares into cute tiny Captain Hartlin. Then after the crash I could beat the boss and complete the quest but none of the checkpoint teleports worked and I couldnt portal out either.

>>741469029
>That's literally every single one, all extremely boring, shallow variants of "spawn monster on player", even calling them mechanics is going too far
Then why do people give so much guff about the trials when they actually do gameplay and challenge?

>>741469029
>so now instead of just doing the league mechanics
So just do the League mechanics. The quest region has a bunch of maps that just give you an Atlas Passive point for the League mechanic if you don't want to do the quest. Only exception is Abyss but the "Quest" in Abyss is to just do a bunch of Abyss maps in a line and theres 2 new bosses at the end, thats it.

>>741427485
He has a node that gives all projectile damage Pin and turns Pin into effectively a stun. This one node is pretty damn good on its own.

campaign skip when?
i genuinely do not care about the poe 1 or 2 story anymore
just let me blast maps

>>741437709
>melee class
There are no classes. The only thing the guy you pick at the start determines is ascendency options and starting location on the tree. Most guys have some way to do most things well, with some exceptions. You're not going to get much to help your spellcasting if you pick Mercenary, for example, at least not from the passive tree.

>>741471352
never, retard

>>741471818
i think you and ggg are the retarded ones
campaign skips would make mad cash for them

>>741472125
not happening retard

I was almost near the atziri's chamber entrance but the fucking thing destabilized and now I am back at the start. Fuck this shit mode. At least I already beat her on my huntress character.

>>741413489
Lmao retard can't orb of exaltation

>>741472125
>campaign skips would make mad cash for them
Campaign skip is something everyone whines about in D4.

>>741472787
why are you bonking the architect if you are trying to get to atziri you dip

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>>741472787
You'll have to burn a few temples to get it going, but the strat for consistent atzulu's is pretty simple. Remember that it tries to destabilize rooms that are hardest to get to first (because it can't leave rooms unconnected), so by putting rooms very far away, you can bait destabilization there.
>long straight path straight to her
>path to architect and any other good rooms you can
>path off to the side near her to bait destabilization, lock rooms around here when you can
In order of priority on any given round.

>>741472982
I just unlocked medallion so on my next run I had no choice but to close the temple. It erased all the top half of the rooms I already unlocked and now I couldn't place new rooms going forward except on the sides. Shit sucks and opening beacons is such a chore.

>>741472946
>whines
yet they buy it and blizzard makes huge cash from it

>>741473178
I see. Fuck it I'm slapping vestige of darkness on my witch to make clears faster. At first I was farming beacons with my huntress because she was my strongest char this league but I didn't know that beacons are tracked independently of each character so all that time wasted.

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>>741411986
queen atziri big but boob, no one else show big fat ass feminine hips bare feet

more naked butt and tiddybress is the future, remember D2 before the pozzening.

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>>741473203
>opening beacons is such a chore
nigga WHAT

>>741472946
probably because the campaign is so incredibly boring that people struggle to convince others to play through it just to get to the mediocre end game.

>>741473229
They don't sell anything that lets you skip the campaign

>>741473391
You are never getting a skip kys

>>741473425
I'm not even the anon that wants one. I'm just stating why people want one for D4 without having to play through it at least once.

>>741473328
You have do like 2-3 maps just to complete all 6 beacons provided you are running max rarity waystones and I don't have a build that can clear maps that fast. I'm just burned out and want to kill her so I can say I'm finally done with this league.

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>>741453683
>he missed the best patch ever made by ggg
lmao

>>741473527
My dude, it takes me no more than 2 (3 with bad luck) Temples to clear Atziri.
What are ya fukken doin'?

>>741473527
So run plain maps you fucking baby

>>741473678
>>741473675
>just run maybe close to a dozen maps and repeat the same temple runs hoping the temple actually gives you pieces need straight to the boss
Too much hassle. This is why the end game being such a grind is a mistake.

>>741473797
Sounds like you need to stop being bad then. Here, I'll give you a hint:
___________git gud__________

>>741473391
>probably because the campaign is so incredibly boring that people struggle to convince others to play through it just to get to the end game.
same as poe2 then

>>741473965
Not even fucking close

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>>741473907
Already beat her on my huntress. the whole process on doing it again on other characters is just such a chore.
Also lol at the demon of atzoatl just being a cheeky explanation to the player farming the same maps over and over again.

>>741474035
Then don't do it and go be raped somewhere else.

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>>741473302
>I didn't know that beacons are tracked independently of each character so all that time wasted.
Yeah I learned that the hard way myself
At least this wyvern build is mostly OK for atziri. She's a bit of a frustrating fight sometimes though, her basic spear attacks just fail to hit my lingering illusions so it can take ages to get power charges.
Anyway here's that same temple after the atzulu run so you can see what I mean. With a lock on that alchemy lab on the far right, everything else past it is gone, but it (and the path) remain. Picking up medallions is worth it, particularly the extra room ones - you can just throw them in your destabilization bait area to increase the buffer of rooms that will be hit before your path.

>>741474105
How do you even survive the final aoe that she does where she covers the entire screen with blood? At a certain point she stops taking damage. I ran to the upper left since guides told me that that area is a blind spot but I think she eventually died from bleed and stopped attacking.

>>741474236
I hide in the bottom right, it doesn't quite reach there
You need big recovery to get through the constant red lightning bolt hits while you're hiding there though, better to just burst her down before it if you can and not actually interact with her mechanics. Like every fucking boss GGG makes in these godforsaken games

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>arpg meat grinder n' loot player

>>741474340
>better to just burst her down before it if you can
Figures. I can take her down rather quickly since she practically suicides herself on the spearfield esp. on phase 2 but I just didn't know what to do whenever she does that aoe.

No aspirational content. Literally "filled the bar" on all the quests using just by shitty +3 weapon, wondering why my retarded subhuman friends are grinding like banshees for divs that don't make a difference.

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>>741411986
idk, probably cause i picked a good starter build. and i got 2 divs before maps with the league mechanic.
but also, currency drops are also great. the campaign was good. maps show league mechanics and clear paths to take before you go ape shit and clear everything once your build is broken.
pretty good patch.

>>741412197
You cannot have an opinion at 50 hours other than the graphics look good.
Poe both 1&2 are and always will be abominations that should be expunged from the internet and their creators arrested and sent to jail.

>>741414813
Come back next month faggot and we will see how many people will be still playing this cancer.

As mage is it important to have evasion as well? I have 5k shields, around 50 ele res and 2k hp and I still get randomly one shot from off screen.

>>741475909
Lv75 btw.

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>>741475909
>50 ele res

>>741416497
It was 280+ a couple of days ago. The game is losing players faster than a gambling addict losing money in Vegas.

>>741476026
It's lv74 maps, not exactly end game. Just annoying to see enemies slowly chipping away at me then I blink for a half a second and I die. Those sun priests and quill crabs sniping you especially is so goddamn annoying.

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>>741476213
It's maps. 75 res is baseline, the bare minimum. You are fucking naked at 50.
When mobs gain elemental damage they are blasting your 50 res anus at maximum. You are getting oneshot because of it.

Anyone else feel the big endgame threats of POE2 are pretty limp? 1 eventually of fell off, but the Shaper and Elder were great. At launch the big threats are:

>Kulemak
Jobber supreme that already lost twice. Every time the Ancients bring up that they sacrificed their civilization to stop him I think " Really, that guy"

>Chayula
Man who lost a succession struggle and then spent decades seething in a recovery pod. We beat the guards to his medicine because his own followers were too weak, then be beat the guy who overthrew him for him since he was too weak.

>Cadigan
Atziri 1.5 FROM SPACE.

>Bodach
Industry plant threat. Stand down Cuck in the Mists, Bodach is the real Wildwood threat. Back off Kulemak, did you think Viridi sacrificed herself to stop you, no it was actually to seal the Bodach. Did you think Tangmazu was important? Karui gods turn into scared little white boys when faced with the Big Bodach Claw.

>>741414813
Where is diablo 4? /v/ told me that Poe2 turboflopped and D4 expansion literally turned everything around and it's now the best ARPG and a mega success

>>741426109
Its very weird to balance because of how many sources of +levels you can get to skills and how much it does for your damage, scaling damage in this game is extremely dependent on one or two specific mods showing up with the rest not doing much
additonally you can't give enemies too much damage because life builds without extreme investment hit 2.5-3k hp
Combine all I said wiht the more punishing deaths and they're sort of in a corner where they either tell players to farm yellow maps for 20 hours or do this where every build 1 taps bosses

>>741426480
wolf relies a lot on herald of ice being scaled up, it does start to clear screens at moderate levels of investment, but you're better off playing some deadeye/spark character

>>741476506
It's not POE2 level yet but the last expansion nearly tripled its playercounts when it used to only do 5k player ccu whenever a season starts.

>>741476034
>PoE has a playerbase that shows up at league start and slowly bleeds off as time progresses
wow this has never happened before. you are the first person to notice this. call the news, we've got us a big scoop here.

I kinda regret investing so much into bonestorm. This thing has 62k dps but it often whiffs hitting the target. It used to be able to ohko any boss in the campaign but in maps now any of the random bullshit buffs bosses get means that they can just shrug it off + the casting time has become a death sentence now since you can't stand still for 2 seconds casting something. 1

>>741476642
3 x 0 is still 0 lmao

>>741453683
Endgame is much better
My only nitpick is that there's tons of fodder maps you have to do to start each mechanic questline, it does get to the point where its genuinely tedious to max everything out and because of how you can just spec everything you're incentivized to get most of your atlas tree and mechanics of choice asap, which still takes like over a hundred maps without buying fragments to skip it

>>741476743
It had 64k peak last month.
https://steamdb.info/app/2344520/charts/

>>741476781
biggest arpg ever btw

poojeets think that D4 players can just swap to using steam and don't realize that there were 10 million plus D4 sales within the first month, well before the game ever released on steam
most realistic estimates are that steam is about 5% of total players
watch the meltdown

>>741476959
biggest arpg ever btw can't even break 100k

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>>741476980
I thought poop players were supposed to be smart but you can't even do simple math?

>>741477021
cope

observe the small dick energy melty from the poojeets who have to deny reality lmao

>>741430013
Shitcanned for being too fun.
Taking His Grave Command as a trend, If you're lucky we'll get a chestpiece that you the skill but in return it deletes your account.