>Most popular mods on the modshop will be red lazers and turning the names into their original nameslol
Eldarbros we will dominate this game.
>>741414667>>Most popular mods on the modshop will be red lazers and turning the names into their original namesmade by dawn of war secondariesactual boomer grogs don't know how to use computers
most popular mods will be coomer modslike sexy tausor fem primarchs when they get added(kino)
>>741414667When are we getting the Horus Heresy expansion?
>>741414667Still not buying it until they add necrons
Have they said what the max army sizes will be?
>>741414667I don't get it, did they announce that the lazers will not be red and they are not using original names? I'm super confused.
>>741414930They barely said anything about the game. >there will be planets>and planets will have different biomesThe end.
>>741414667Don't forget about the primaris replacer. >>741415010>they are not using original names?games workshop few years ago changed shitload of names so they could be trademarked. All of them sound gay as fuck.
>>741415010gw rebranded their armies to copyrightable names, like renaming the imperial guard to the astra militarum. people don't like change. i think the change is dumb, but whatever. none of my armies were affected so i didn't really give a shit.>lazers will not be redthe lasgun fire laser bolts in the trailerwhich is entirely a preference thing because the lasgun has never been portrayed consistent. sometimes it's a red laser beam (dawn of war/dark tide); sometimes it's a red laser star wars bolt (firewarrior); sometimes it's colorless weapon retort (literally almost every bit of official codex art, here's one from 2e).
Red beams is reddit canon
>>741415387>>741415419My god, is GW run by lobotomized chimpanzees? What's the point of renaming an iconic army to a name nobody uses just to trademark...the name nobody uses and therefore defeating the point? And Dawn of War has been the standard for portraying lots of things in video games and media in general for over 20 years now. Surely they must know better than to touch it? Basically only turbo boomers pre DoW would even be aware that lasguns may not actually be red lazer beams, focus on may. And they decide to fuck with it. ????
>>741415387>went from Tau to T’augayest shit i’ve seen in my life baka james workshop
>>741414667for me it will be adding blu lasers since a few books have those
>grogs insist for years that lasguns fire yellow blaster bolts that look like regular guns firing, cite old artwork and codices, shitting on dawn of war red beams>gw finally caves to the grogs and says the red beams aren't canon>dawn of war kiddies get upset and start claiming the yellow blaster bolts are "nulore"lmao
>>741414667Tanith 1st and only campaign
>>741415659Iconic names like "Space Marine" "Imperial Guard" and "Eldar" (literally stolen from Tolkien)
>>741414779The dawn of war lasguns were always cooler than the old codex art ones.Only contrarians and retards who think the liking something old makes them superior think otherwise.
>>741415659IIRC GW tried to sue some dude a few years ago because he used the phrase "space marine" in a book or something, despite the phrase originating (again, IIRC) in the Starship Troopers book. They made this change so they can own everything, sell stuff with their names on it (ignoring how they easily could've just done it with the names they previously used) and earn money.
Space Marines AeldariOrksAstra Militarumhttps://www.totalwar.com/games/warhammer-40k
Is there any proper gameplay footage yet?
>>741415864Considering that nobody uses the trade mark names, not even new people to the franchise I'd say that the old names are fairly iconic in regards to the 40k franchise specifically even if they are more generic terms.
>>741415864Yes. Unironically.>>741415971Yeah that doesn't make any fucking sense whatsoever.
The redblaser beams are sexy af lets be honest. The idea of some bloody beat up battlefield absolutely covered by lasgun beams is awesome and peak 40k.
>>741415994God that nog is so ugly
>>741416038>Yeah that doesn't make any fucking sense whatsoever.Agreed. But it is indeed GW we're talking about: they're not very smart.
>>741415971>despite the phrase originating (again, IIRC) in the Starship Troopers book.It's older than that t. Wikipedia, Starship Troopers uses the term Mobile Infantry. GW's claim was that they held the rights to the name "Space Marine" in the UK because of the proto-Epic Space Marine game they released iirc. https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Space_Marine_(2nd_Edition)
>>741415997Nope, nothing yet Biggest snippets we've got were from the PC gaming show segmentMaybe we get more for June but i doubt it... Beta news when
>be cold, soulless corp>try to sue some nobody >loseLOL
>try to sue some guy who makes armor pieces and alternate look figs>lose>guy had to stop making like 3 alt figs but won against gaysworkshopLOL
>>741414667>The planet broke before the Militarum did
>>741414667More like.>it will be a complete game with all the factions and several sequels, and then some overhaul mods will have been finished; in about 10 years.
>>741415659You wanna know why? Because some retards called chapterhouse decided to sell their proxy minis and market them with 40k names, then gw sued them over it and those nottingham fucks lost the case. So they renamed everything to make sure it won't happen again
>>741416038There is nothing iconic about the most generic names possible
>>741416357kek, bunch of retards>>741416362Quite possible the most retarded take on the entire board right now. Good job.
>>741415659>My god, is GW run by lobotomized chimpanzees? What's the point of renaming an iconic army to a name nobody uses just to trademark...the name nobody uses and therefore defeating the point?Wait until you see the Warhammer Fantasy renames in Age of Sigmar>orruk>aelf>duardinfucking YIKES
>>741415659>is GW run by lobotomized chimpanzeesUnironically yes. Only thing GW is consistent about is making stupid decisions. Just a while ago they rebranded their paint line from Citadel Colour to Warhammer Colour because "customers are confused about the brand" or some horse shit. Of course they didn't touch the godawful paint pot design people actually have been complaining about for over a decade.
>>741416549>no actual rebuttal I accept your concession, space marine is generic slopbrand name.
>>741416659A company so retarded it continually falls into piles of money year after year
I'm going to have to wait like 6 years for Tau and I'm probably not even going to get any of the cool auxiliary forces at launch.
>>741416665Bold of you to assume saying something that retarded needs rebuttal. Now off you go.
>>741416732Im not even sure Ill actually get catachan as anything more than a unit of renown, at least you know youll get Tau.
>>741414667The nu las-weapons are soulless. But what really grinds my gear is the blacks and the women in the army. That is an outrage.
>>741416731By complete accident just like most entertainment companies
So how the fuck is diplomacy going to work anyway?I know the ally matrix isn't used anymore shut up
>>741416650Don't tell me you don't like iconic units like Ghoulcount Blöö'dyhæl Scrumptious Bönesmacker, Brokk Grungsson, Lord-Magnate of Barak-Nar or Hedonites of Slaanesh Safehorny Debaucherrers
Why is it called Total War Warhammer and not Total Warhammer?
>>741416859This is how I feel as an imperial knights player. We're basically always relegated to being a super unit for someone else instead of getting to be our own faction.And even then it's only ever the questoris that shows up.
>>741416993Because they're losers that care more about trademark than cool names
>>741416993Both companies want their trademark name on there.
>>741416993>>741417040>Total War: Hammer: I-III>Total War: Hammer: 40K
>>741417040I'm so glad I pirated RT without giving any of those cunts a cent. Are space marine games worth playing?
>>741417125SM is kinda dated, its okSM2 is a very impressive spectacle, eye candyPretty shallow though
>>741417197First one is good, I remember it fondly. Never played the 2nd one cause it has primaris and fucking seasons in it.
>>741415719literally no one has ever made this argument excpet for 10 fucking retards that think the lasers are shooting yellow, when you never actually see a yellow laser in literally any old art, all you see is muzzle flash and i guess retard nigger euroslavs who never shot a gun don't understand what that is.
>>741417242>SeasonsIs winter and summer considered harmful now or something?>t. Lorelet
>>741416924It might be that you can do most of the normal diplomacy stuff within your faction (e.g. war coordination between space marine legions) and your options are more limited outside of that.
>>741414667The only company worse than GW is CA but I'm a bigger fag because I'm still going to buy it.
>>741414667Sisters of battle please. So I can lewd them with mods
So how is this game going to deal with the issue that so many factions will be Imperium-aligned? It would be really lame if they went the DoW route and made the Imperial Guard/Space Marines/Sisters all enemies.
>>74141795840k is a tabletop war game so it has lore built in to justify the imperium fighting itself. There's always some form of civil war, independence movement, renegade space marine chapter, or militarized disagreement going on. The imperium of man is a failed and collapsing state that is only propelled forward by inertia at this point.
>>741417958They probably won't be enemies, at least broadly speaking, but I'd be surprised if you couldn't fight them if you wanted to and i'd be surprised if some IG subfactions don't end up chaos aligned or you get something like the badab war brewing.They'll probably also flesh out every major faction with subfactions. There's no shortage of warbands/whatever and ways to make them stand out from each other.
>>741416659>paint pot designed by an evil genius to waste paint forcing customers to buy more than they need>business savant Anon "yo let's fix that money maker"That's why GW is a stock market darling and you're unemployed
>>741418840believe it or not, I think every hobby would be better off if its business was run on honest product making instead of jewish tricks, but that's just me
>>741417958the imperium both capable and willing to turn on itself for any reason.
>>741414727As we should. Lesser races deserve to suffer
>>741418840Maybe, just maybe they could sell even more paint if people would buy it because it's an actually good product and not because they don't yet know no better.
>>741417958It'll work exactly the same way as every other Total War game. It won't matter if you're allies anyway since the AI in these games is schizophrenic at the best of times and actively neutered if you make allies with them.
>>741416924>deldar are directly responsible for summoning Slaanesh and fucking up the Eldar, which the Craftworlders explicitly rejected>they're best buds>fantasy druchii are just elves but Canadian and with an inheritance slapfight, and worship Khaine a bit too enthusiastically>they're sworn enemies until that thing that should not be named happenedthis was always dumb
PLEASE REMEMBER THE DEVELOPER OF THIS GAME IS CREATIVE ASSEMBLY
>>741419535Going to be lots of 40k fags who are completely oblivious to CA's incompetence getting a nasty surprise when this turd releases.
>>74141957840keks have no taste, as seen with Darktide.
>>741416924tau what the fuck are you doing
>>741419535They're ok now since they've were forced to kill HgaynasAlien Iso2 looks goodWarcore engine looks kino
>>741414779Dawn of war was so influenctial it had several of its interpretations and OC stuff added to the table top.Red lasers are just one of them, the biggest example would probably be thunder hammer become usable by non-terminators since DoW was the first to do it and everyone, correctly, decided it was fuken sik.
>pc gaming showcase has them playing 10th ed in the background
>>741419535CA make fun but bizarrely designed games with kike tier monetization.Go into it with that knowledge and you won't be surprised.
>>741419784>funAfter three years of patches and DLC, maybe.
>>741416213>Rome 2 What
>>741414667>Most popular mods on the modshop will be red lazers and turning the names into their original namesIt will be making uncucking Slaneeshi daemons and sister repentia
>>741415659>Steal everything from other works>Iconiclol there's nothing iconic nor original in WH. Kitchen sink the franchise
>>741420020getting a massive update
>>741420020Every history title since then has been a turboflop, Rome 2 is still one of their most popular games so they have the Hungarians working on updates for it.
>>741420103It's fucking crazy that every historic game has flopped since rome 2(except 3k because chinks are chinks)
Enough about the workshop, what will be the most popular mod on Loverslab?
>>741417558He meant season passes but that's only for cosmetic DLC. Also I'm pretty sure the original anon meant the Space Marine faction in Total War:Hammer 40k, not the co-op shooter Space Marine 2
>>741419450Nah, it's based. The Craftworld Eldar and Dark Eldar not having some retarded blood feud makes their relationship more interesting than their fantasy counterparts. Plus it emphasizes the fact that at the end of the day, eldar as a whole are race supremacists that still value the lives of fellow eldar above all the lesser races
>>741420257Daemonculaba
>>741415719>kiddies dawn of war is over 20 years old unc
>EldarIt's Aeldari, chud.
>>741420257Lilith mods of course
>>741415719Post that old codex art depicting "yellow blaster bolts", if there's so much of then that should be easy.And you better not reply with something that just depicts muzzle flash.
>>741415719dow/dorktide beams look better, you may proceed to cope and seethe all you want
>>741417442>>741420379Why would a gun that shoots red lasers have yellow muzzle flash?
>>741419578>nasty surprise40k faggots are so used to being treated like shit that if CA goes full Shadows of Change on them they will thank CA for it and sing praises about how much of an amazing company they are. Especially now that the only person not deep in CA's pockets has been ran out of the community so that the masses have no leader to rally behind anymore.Look at Darktide. Look at how it released. Look at how it didn't get any better. Play it and realize every single lobby people are fully decked out with the cash shop cosmetics. THAT is the 40k audience.
Replace all lashits with stub guns
I think 40k should operate under the rule of cool. Laser beams look cooler, thus they should be in the game.
>>741415659>My god, is GW run by lobotomized chimpanzees?Yes anon, if you haven't already, read up on the history of how these retards can make one good decision while simultaneously making five fucktared ones. Personally, 8th ed's release was were i was done with them
>>741414667>new game badhaha ebin post, have an updoot
>>741415971you are probably thinking of the "Spots the Space Marine" incident
>>741420538As someone who has spent $0 on the cash shop the game definitely got better, arguably I think it got way too easy though nothing will beat 75% DR Power Sword launch Veteran.
>>741420379>inb4 'rogue trader isn't canon'
>>741421275>for planet ungabunga!
>>741415971So the actual reason goes back a bit further.It used to be that GW would include unit profiels in each Codex for characters who didn't have models. This was to encourage kitbashing which would inherently give GW more profits, as people would buy more models to get more bits to do the kitbashing.A small group named Chapterhouse then began making and selling models of these model-less characters, specifically advertising as such. GW found out and sued, claiming infringement.The courts went AGAINST GW, stating that if they didn't sell the models for those model-less profiles then they have no right to sue other people who do. This was coupled with a significant critique of GW's very loose naming conventions for Warhammer, which went in detail that ANY of GW's factions which didn't have a unique and specific name was fair game for people to copy and produce second-hand models for, as GW couldn't claim broad or unoriginal terms.The result of this was GW massively changing their stance on almost all things; Factions were broadly renamed across all Warhammer settings, a strict rule of 'Every profile must have an associated unit' was imposed, and GW just generally became much more distant and coroorate with their fan interactions. Creativity was broadly quashed and GW turned far more corporate, as that's essentially what the courts demanded.
>>741421275See that's an actual example, albeit white not yellow.
also, this, kinda.
why not just introduce a new type of gun so both red lazer and white bolt fags can be happy?
>>741418840Several of their competitors exist purely because GW makes business decisions like this.
>>741422237Not even that is needed. Thousands of variants of lasguns exist, all slightly different from each other.Both the total warhammer and dow versions are cannon at the same time.
>>741422237Don't give GW any ideas. They'll happily shoehorn in another gun , then overcharge for the models
All this las colour talk is akin to Sonic's arm colour.
>>741422284gw doesn't have any competitors lol>>741422447it's kinda refreshing after nothing but custodes whinging
>>741416924Wow I had no idea Eldar and Dark Eldar were best buds. I thought they hated each other like in fantasy. That's interesting
>>741422489>gw doesn't have any competitors lolThey do in the paint and hobby supply department, which was the topic of the post.
>>741422416The issue that those are Kantreal pattern lasguns, we've been shown both projectile styles for it. Now if creative assembly brought in an original imperial guard regiment with a new pattern
>>741422492They don't like each other on a personal level but they have no closer allies when fights do break out.
>>741422237This would have been the reasonable solution, or just leaving the matter untouched entirely. Instead they went out of their way to establish that lasguns MUST BE GAY AND LAME in a binding media guide so now every 40k project has to follow suit or lose their deal.
>>741422624>lasguns MUST BE GAY AND LAMEThey are.
>>741416924chapter diplomacy will be kino if they do it right, which they probably should since it'll be all the dlc
>>741414667I still can't get myself to enjoy 40k beyond surface level fun with games like Darktide and Dawn of War, the aliens are lame as fuck and the way people only jerk off the boring Space Marines with their faggy faux-latin names makes it impossible for me to take any story seriously. Part of me wishes I could fully dive into it but I just don't like Space Marines man, they're so fucking boring.
>>741416924>Necrons + TauWould be cool>Necrons + GayosHuh?
>>741422416so why bother making the lasgun shots into white bolts if both were canon and they were mostly represented as red lasers in the games? Seems like they mandated the same for DoW4. It would be so much smarter to make the vidya playerbase comfortable with the idea by just having another gun type in the games and let them exist at the same time.
>>741415864Pretty sure Space Marine is a term used in the Starship Troops book
>Red>YellowI like white flash that doesn't even have a beam, just a barely visible projectile . You know, like in old sci-fis
>>741415918Honestly I understand why the art didn't depict them as solid laser beams, it's the kind of thing that looks great in motion but would probably be very hard to make it not look like crap in the kind of massed battle scenes so loved by 40k art.
>>741414667>marines>orks>eldar>guard>plus sub-factionsneeds more factions to be honest
>>741422827Sounds like ultramarines are the only space marines you are aware of and yes they are boring. There are a lot of other ones though
>>741414667>Not releasing chaos at the startShit game, imagine playing this without the main villains, it's like Batman without the joker
>>741423138Eldar are a colissal mistake as a launch faction, their subfactions aren't particularly different from each other and their large-scale playstyle is too different from established Total War gameplay. They're also most known for sometimes allying with the Imperium anyways, so you essentially have two Imperial factions, one Imperial adjacent faction, and then one actual Xenos faction. They should have worked in rivalries with Imperial Guard v Orks (to showcase Armageddon) and Marines v Tyranids (to showcase the 4th Tyrannic War).The only reason I can think of for Eldar being here at launch is that CA knows they won't be a big seller as DLC and want to charge for the more liked factions.
>>741423210I mean it's not the first time they've made that exact mistake
>>741420307The relationship varies from Craftworld to Craftworld, some begrudgingly get along with their retarded kin when they show up and others are actively hostile and are basically shoot on sight with the dark eldar.
>>741423362Retarded take. The Eldar offer an unique play style of being extremely fast glass cannon elite army that contrasts well with the other starting factions.
>>741422492They're ideologically opposed but also the main factions of a dying race and blood is thicker than water.
>>741423491Yeah, which is more interesting and nuanced than the blood feud between the high elves and dark elves in Warhammer fantasy
>>741414667Seems like something autists would care about
>>741423362>large-scale playstyle is too different from established Total War gameplayelaborate on this please.
>>741423210The 1st edition of 40k didn't have chaos either.Genestealers will be the first race pack
>>741423362On the other hand you could argue that all of that makes them ideal for a starter faction because they offer a totally unique campaign and they make inter-faction diplomacy more relevant instead of having half the factions in the game effectively completely locked out of any sort of diplomacy if they went with any of the other non-Imperial factions.
>>741423567>The Eldar offer an unique play style of being extremely fast glass cannon elite army that contrasts well with the other starting factions.That's not what I meant.>>741423670Eldar don't take and hold territory or even get involved in major conflicts, as it goes against them being a dying race. They show up randomly to either attack backwater settlers or warn the Imperium of something incredibly obvious. Their entire MO is to sit on their big floating cruise ships and only leave when they percieve a threat.It's TWW1 Wood Elves all over again, except even more lame since they're likely going to be a pseudo Horde faction.Everything points to Eldae being a combination of the worst faction aspects of TWW factions. CA already said they're going to have limited recruitment and won't actually hold territory, and it's already established in-universe that the Eldar literally CAN'T win major victories since they're a doomed race.
>>741414667>ass steam slop>primarislop>dlcslopcringe
Ok lets take a guess how will new woke GW whos lore team is run by tranny loving Brooks and ITS HER TURN Abnett will change slavery mechanics of Dark Eldar, they will change it into a: Labourers like in Chaos Dwarfs, b: Involuntary workers like in Gladius or maybe low income interns ? Take youre guess !
>>741419719>dawn of war was the first to give thunder hammers to non terminatorsAm I a fucking joke to you?
>>741424012Dark Eldar aren't making it past 11th Edition, anon. They'll be merged into the Ynnari in order to give Yvraine more importance.
>>741424138I thought they were dropping the yvraine plot
>>741424138>Ynnari>YvraineIt's over. Nobody cares about that shit
>>741423954I see what you mean. I would agree that it seems like more of a miss as a launch faction.I think that the kind of campaign i'm envisioning would feel better once there are more factions in play, strategically propping some factions up and kneecapping others to guide the overall galaxy to your desired outcome. With not enough factions in the game its gonna feel too cramped to really maneuver like that.
>>741424170>>741424173Ynnead was in the 11th Edition launch trailer and it's been soft-confirmed that Fulgrim is carrying the last macguffin sword that the Ynnari need, so it can already be expected that GW is going ti try bringing the Ynnari back only to have them immediately lose to the Emperor's Children.
>>741424138So like in age of shitmar? Ya I could totally see this, then all they have to do is to get rid of Slaanesh and its finally not problematic grimdark ready for reddit Jimmy.
>>741424259They wouldn't do that for marketing, they'd do it because DEldar aren't popular in the slightest and nobody would miss them. Eldar of all kinds are only ever bought for the sake of tabletop rules, and even that only barely keeps DE alive.
>>741424012I think Owlcat made DEldar pretty well in their Rogue Trader. I don't see why they would change anything, especially since Dark Elves already have slave mechanics anyway.
>>741424138>They'll be merged into the Ynnari in order to give Yvraine more importance.Nobody even remembers the Ynnari, and Yvraine is only present in the Girlyman shipping memes.
>>741424240when did they alluded that its the last crone sword? I remember all Ynnari fanboys jizzing their pants over this, but I didnt see any conformation, even between the lines. There were nothing about that in EC codex.
>DEJust let daemons fully invade/break into Commorragh. Turn it into a massive FFA between dorks, former slaves, necrons, mercs and daemons.
>>741424421Someone who got the Armageddon box early pointed it out from the lore booklet. The 'big' Eldar plot for 11th is that several Craftworlds are now gearing up to hunt for Fulgrim and take the sword, which is only going to end one way.
>>741424489>move the plot forwards instead of taking the Imperial Armour approach of using the 10,000 years of post-Heresy timeline to dip into assorted "historical" campaigns because people were complaining about 'muh stagnant setting' (and the Imperial Armour campaign books are funnily enough some of the very best campaign books ever produced for 40k)>the plot "advances" into named characters bouncing off of each other in indecisive battles where nothing is allowed to change and nobody is allowed to dieWhat a fucking improvement, wowee.
>>741424763I miss Imperial Armour...
>>741423567Eldar will only commit to a pitched battle if theyre desperate and ran out of options.Theyre not gonna squat in the trenches getting shelled for 2 months.
>>741424763>'muh stagnant setting'>when nothing is allowed to advance???
>>741415994is dat a chaos marine? sheeeeiiiitt
For me it's
>>741415994Well at least they didn't turn Orks into Orruks.
>>741424763Yep, should've been done this way. But no, they went with cramming events into 999.M41 and then 8th ED happened
>>741424138God I hope not, Ynnari are totally reddid faction, a leftower of old management, who wanted to get rid of DE and Slaanesh for marketing reasons, while Dark Eldars are pretty cool
>>741416924Necrons>Ally with Chaos Daemons? only during the apocalypse>Ally with Chaos Spess Mehreens? Yeah sure, when it is convenient.Huh?
>>741425868CSM + orkz + necron trio is too strong, please understand. The emperor is done
>>741425837Ynnari were the best thing to happen to Eldar since it gave us those Guilliman x Yvraine memes.The only thing Eldar are good for is porn.
>>741425697>dat pic
>>741425316Complaining that the setting was stagnant was a particularly stupid complaint that became very prevalent in online discussion about 40k in the early 2010s when the Horus Heresy novels were really starting to take off in a massive way. Back then the 40k timeline was frozen at the climax of the 13th Black Crusade at the end of 999.M41 - IIRC the exact situation was everything hanging in the balance as Abaddon's invasion was starting to overrun the Cadia's defences on the ground but the Imperial Navy had just pulled off a daring offensive and regained control of the planet's orbit so whether or not Cadia was finally about to fall was left up in the air.But because the Horusy Heresy books were shiny and new and massively popular for telling this sprawling narrative where things always moved forwards some people got it into their heads that 40k should also move the plot forwards, and eventually the complaining got loud enough that someone at GW decided to pull the trigger on it (thus Guilliman and the Primaris nonsense happened), and now 40k is stuck in this weird limbo where GW obviously doesn't really want anything to actually change but now the genie is out of the bottle they have to keep up the masquerade of having the plot move forwards which results in all sorts of nonsense - including actually retconning the Imperial calendar to make it the 41st millennium again because advancing the plot immediately landed them in the 42nd millennium.
>>741423954The eldar not holding territories is what makes them unique. Why the fuck would you want the Eldar to conquer planets and shit? Them being sneaky fucks that show up to attack or aid other races is the entire thing with them and has always been so. You are basically complaining that the Eldar are going to have their own gameplay mechanics rather than being just reskinned version of some other faction.Or, alternatively, you are just the resident eldar hating faggot that is mad about the Eldar being included in the game in the first place, in which case your opinion is just poorly disguised cope and seethe.
>>741426703My point is that making the faction that doesn't conquer planets into a launch faction for the game that's about conquering planets is a bad idea, you absolute fucking retard.
>>741424435Deamons are already invading Commoragh trough Khaine's gate. For the Dark Eldar it is just another thursday and an opportunity to scheme against one another.People who think that Dark Eldar are going away are fucking retarded and delusional. If GW was going to squat them they wouldn't have given them a new Lady Malys model or updated the plastic archons. We will likely see a range update for them this edition that brings back the grotesques etc. In general it is really weird how there is a vocal section of the supposed 40k "fanbase" that clamor for various factions of the setting to be removed.
>>741426871That is just your retarded opinion. The point of 40k is the wars and battles, conquest is secondary at best and for some factions like the eldar completely irrelevant. The power fantasy of the Eldar is to be the enigmatic dicks that come in to meddle with the affairs of other races and fuck off without explaining themselves. Them being tied down to territories would go completely against the ethos of how they are supposed to work.I want to be able to just randomly pop up on a world contested by for example Imperium and the Orks and then start meddling in their war for my own purposes.
>>741416892They keep pushing the most ungabunga'd negresses out front and center as much as they can and im sick of it. Then again I only consume warhammer via YouTube videos from grog fans of the old lore anyways so whatever, GW can literally burn for all I care
>>741426924>In general it is really weird how there is a vocal section of the supposed 40k "fanbase" that clamor for various factions of the setting to be removed.When it comes to the Dark Eldar I think it has more to do with their line not having been updated in ages and like half of their range being removed in the recent years.I like them so I hope they get a range refresh and according to the lady Malys model at least they are allowed to have a rare attractive female here and there.
>>741426871Imagine being so map painting-brained that you literally cannot conceive of playing a large scale strategy game in a way that doesn't revolve around map painting.
>>741415419>>741415438Heck of a hivemind there
>>741427241The models that got removed from them were all formerly metal and later finecast garbage that GW stopped producing. Some of that stuff that used to belong in that category like the Incubi and the Mandrakes were brought back in plastic, there is no reason to assume that the rest of that range won't be brought back.
>>741427375Oh no, I agree, but they are really taking their sweet time with it...
>>741415994>>741415659>>741415387>>741414667All of the new names sound far better and most importantly fit the setting better. Imperials absolutely should use notLatin everywhere. Eldar should have their own terms. It's an objective net positive changeSawyer was right
>>741427424It took GW 30 years to update Warp Spiders so I wouldn't hold my breath.
>>741416213Pc gamer show info was it for June
>>741426924It's largely imperium fanboys who don't actually play the game and get all their "lore" from places like tik tok amd youtube shorts
>>741415994>>741414667When did the IG become full of sheboons? You look at the models and any official Warhammer 40k official media and there's always at least one ugly stinking nigger sheboon among them.
I will wait for the Chaos DLC so that I can shit and piss on xenonigs and corpsefags like they deserve
>>741423954the Eldar win condition will be finding a way to kill Slaanesh
>>741422660>Iron Warriors x World Eaters>Raven Guard x Space WolvesWhat are these about?
>>741428315They are the easiest faction to shoehorn in the Blackrock mandated nogs.
>>741428549Ravens and Wolves hunt together. It might just be reference to that since I don't remember them sharing any lore.
>>741427905Secondaries and tertiaries are a blight on the hobby
>>741428892Legit, half of the top 10 most popular armies are xenon with the Eldar and Tau being among them, but if you were to listen to those retards you'd have the impression that the imperium and chaos are the only things people like about the setting.
>>741416924why the fuck would the Tau and necrons ally?
>>741426924>If GW was going to squat them they wouldn't have given them a new Lady Malys model or updated the plastic archonsMalys has prior history with Yvraine and Archons are usable in the Ynnari, meanwhile they cut out many Haemonculus units that notably AREN'T usable in the Ynnari.
>>741429957gam balance hrad, plz undrastond
>>741429957Antediluvian/Young team
>>741429957One of the meme overlords like Trazyn abusing Tau naivete to fuck with them.
>>741429957the necrons do it so they can say that they're the necrontau and pretend to have their bodies back for a whilethe tau are the tau
>>741427293>imagine being so total war-brained that you literally cannot conceive of playing a total war game in a way that doesn't revolve around total warit sounds strange calling the /tg/ transplants the secondaries here but it's true
>>741430926Armies that claim no territory already proved to work in total Warhammer fantasy edition. On that ground the Eldar are no different so your bitching about them is nothing but "waah I don't like this play style" whinimgm
>>741430926Or they're someone who has been playing total war for 20+ years so different ways to play it are actually refreshing
>>741431312If by "work" you mean "awful and hated by everyone" then yeah chaos and beastmen really worked. At least you'll get a lot more eldar haters to argue with when they join them.
>>741430926>Calling others transplants while acting like map painting is a core feature everybody wantsBack to /gsg/ with you
>>741431312>Armies that claim no territory already proved to work in total Warhammer fantasy edition.It took them literally three games to make those armies not fucking suck, anon, and they're still awful to play.
>>741429957Well, if you're Necron and want your flesh back, you better minmax your new vessels.>Chad bodies for men that you can either get from humans, or if you want pwetty option, Eldar>Breeding sow bodies for females, so non-canon Tau cow tits
Where are me imperial guard at
>>741431635Reworked beastmen are alright. Although, they do capture territory now. I guess painting the map really is integral to a map painter. Who knew.
>>741431635Skill issue. Beast men for one are a blast to play
>>741431724/gsg/ was majority console command roleplayers actually. People who actually played the games they shitposted about were driven out long ago.
>>741415994>no chaosWtf
>>741416659Everyone who complains about the pots also knows they can buy better brands for cheaper. The beginner-friendly pots that stay open while you paint and either spill or dry out and have to be replaced are literally not for you.If they felt they'd make more money changing they would have. Record profits year after year.
>>741414873Never ever even though the Heresy would be better suited for a TW game than 40k. They need to sell $500 of DLC to milk the piggies for all they're worth, and they'd only be able to sell $200 of DLC for HH.
>>741416659I still wonder why they don’t change the fucking pots.>have to shove your brush in to get any amount>bristles need to be cleaned too>brands like Viejo and AK3 have an easy twist and squeeze designThe pots are okay for shaders (if you don’t spill them) because you can just dip and paint, but for all other paints you have to thin it so what’s the point?
>>741414830warhammer fantasy total war has no coomer mods
>>741416924Don’t Tau and the IG team up?
>>741429957To destroy tyranids in the short term.
Lasguns should decimate flesh, even mutated/space marine/daemon flesh. It should be weaker against armor which is why the guard use heavy weapons
>>741431635Beastmen and WoC, post-rework, are genuinely two of the most fun factions in the game.
>>741432014Day 12 dlc
>>741426407>Warhammer: 40 something K
>>741432553these marines feel anemic
>>741433524You mean they became fun when CA made it so they took territory?
>>741432670oh yes it does
>>741432670It does and they have gone VERY far.
>>741427528[incredible sucking noises]
>>741432670Brother there was a guy who made custom combat animations for Beastmen to rape Elf women with
>>741426871the game arguably isn't about conquering planets given Exterminatus is apparently an option
>>741434930
>>741431635luv me Vampire Coast
>>741432670Is this bait?
>>741435434no, it's a stealth request post
>>741432553Nobody intelligent wants to play red vs blue space marines
>>741436356Marines are more popular than every xenos faction combined.
>>741414667What was the purpose of changing the laser colours? Is this some Aeldar shit?
>>741436356
>>741434930link to the mod?
>>741436497>the majority of people are retarded>the most popular faction is space marinesYou're not proving me wrong
Which faction is your favorite bros?I love the imperial guard but Orks are also cool
>>741437083I genuinely love almost every 40k faction, they all have something going for them. But I have space marine fatigue so I'll probably play imperial or orks.
>>741437083I love the Eldar and I am very happy that they are in the game at launch. The Eldar are the coolest faction in the setting imo, with the best aesthetics.
>>741414667I can't wait for it to be exactly the same as Warhammer 3 with a 40k skin. It'll have all the same bugs, gunpowder units will still be blind, the gate bug will still be around and the "cover" system I see them brag about in videos is just docking on walls which also made ranged units blind and stupid. I'm super excited to see two legendary lords run around in circles chasing each other trying to engage in melee.
>>741437083Imperial Knights, they probably won't be allowed to be their own faction though and CA is probably just going to be lazy and smash the questoris into the guard or something as an elite unit.
>>741437207>The Eldar are the coolest faction in the setting imo, with the best aesthetics.elaborate foul xeno lover
>>741438539What is there to elaborate? I find the Eldar to be cool. The lore of their origins as a genetically engineered psychic warrior race who were created to fight a galaxy wide war, their rise after the war in heaven and the fall from graze with the birth of Slaanesh, their dead gods, phoenix lords, aspect warriors, the craftworlds, and their mastery over the webway etc are all really cool to me, and it is all tied together with a fantastic aesthetic. I also like the Dark Eldar just as much, in general all eldar appeal to me.They are also in my view one of the most interesting and unique takes on the idea of elves in general. I like how they are just unashamedly supremacist and act accordingly rather than being a sort of elder mentor race for humanity.
>>741414667>turning the names into their original names?
>>741440151yeah i dont get it either
I have warhammer fatigue, it's slopified beyond limits now. Why was I ahead of the curve like 20 years ago? I have nothing to enjoy now.
>>741440151>>741440357GW changed the names of some factions about a decade ago to make them more copyrightableex. Eldar into Aeldari, Imperial Guard into Astra Militarum etc.
>>741440526Adeptus Astartes into Space Marines
>>741440526oh that, i constantly forget about it because i just call them eldar and no one really cares, idk if shill youtubers changed to calling them aeldari
>>741435073A man needs a mod name.>>741432670There are three extremely large mods with custom corruption scenarios for Alarielle, Katherina and Yao, including custom skins for each stage of corruption, custom art etc.
>>74144046420 years ago was when warhammer got its first good games (Dawn of War 1 and Mark of Chaos) lifting these franchises from the mudpits of endless shovelware, what do you mean by "ahead of the curve"?!
>>741440464>too intelligent to have fun
>>741440663>A man needs a mod nameEndo's matched combat, I think it's now locked behind a Discord server after the creator pulled it.
>>741440464
>>741429957You want the real reason? The T'au don't occupy space that was part of the old Necron empire, so they have no reason to be in conflict.
>>741420157>It's fucking crazy that every historic game has flopped since rome 2Why? How many times can you regurgitate the same handful of realistic units you can put in? They were already stretching it to the breaking point with things like war dogs.The most popular mods were ones that introduced different settings, and thus a larger variety of units. Warhammer is the perfect fit exactly for this reason.
>>741441584how about you stop eating this slop and enabling gay fagshop
>>741438539I'm not an eldarfag, but in terms of gameplay for total war it's looking like they'll probably be the most mechanically launch faction interesting so that's got me wanting to play them.
>>741437207Didn't know Pancreas used /v/
>>741441747No :^)
>>741429931>Legit, half of the top 10 most popular armies are xenon with the Eldar and Tau being among themNo, retard. ALL of the top 10 selling armies are various flavours of Human. The best selling Xenos armies are NECRON and ORKS.
>>741414667I like Craftworld Eldar because psykers are my favorite unit.
>>741441856enjoy it getting even shittier then
>>741441896>The best selling Xenos armies are NECRON and ORKS.wrong, it's nids
>>741414873Hopefully never. HH sucks and was a mistake.
>>741415719>Muh yellowWho cares about the fucking colour, my god. They’re laser guns, not blasters. Dawn of War 2 doesn’t give a shit about the colour either; they’re fucking yellow. The contention has always been about the fact that they’re supposed to be shooting beams because if they shoot projectiles then they’re not fucking laser guns.
>>741442061>wrong, it's nidsYou're looking up some retarded "popularity" ranking. I'm talking purely sales numbers.
>>741414667what did I miss?
>>741416731Thanks to, of all fucking things, their book sales and the few good game sales. Also thanks to fan works like the Astartes shorts bringing in tons of people. GW succeeds despite its stupid decisions, not because of them.
>>741442337Lasgun shot color autism
>>741441896You're literally retarded if you go by sales instead of play rate. Space marine players and all of their flavors get a new model every other week and the other human factions get regular new model and range refreshes unless its something GW seemingly wants to get rid of like any IG regiment that isn't krieg or cadian.Imperium players get milked on the paypiggy treadmill (unless they're knights cause they get like 1 new robot per edition) while xenos can go a decade without getting a new model or a refresh which invariably means lower sales. Especially for things like necron warriors which you can pick up for pennies second hand due to how much GW overprinted them before subsequently trying to dump the stock on everyone.
>>741415997They showed us just enough to tickle our balls
>>741441963But Eldar are terrible psykers? There's like four other factions who have better psykers in general.
>>741414667Pic will be one of the most popular mods on the modshop
>>741414667My most-anticapted mod is one that replaces the Primaris helmets
I'm one of these gays who got into 40k through Dawn of War and any deviation from the established lore and designs of 2004 just seems wrong. I will never say "Aeldari" I will never accept Nucrons and Primaris or female Custodes.
>>741416924>Imperial Guard and Space Marines are battle brothers>Eldar are allies of convenience with both of themSo its triple teaming the orks until they are wiped out. Then the imperium factions rape the Eldar into submission. Sounds like they need chaos marines ASAP
>>741442670the tanks look really good
>>741443062>any deviation from the established lore and designs of 2004 just seems wrongAs someone who is still into it, that was around the last time the lore and designs were good.
>>741416924>Orks: Battle Brothers with OrksI wouldn't go higher than "allies of convenience" desu. What if they run out of other factions to fight?
god I hate imperiumsoys, worst part of warhammer
>>741441896>>741442613Also win rates have a negligible affect on play rates as only millionaire nepo babies can afford to buy and paint up whole ass new army every time there's a balance change.If win rates actually mattered when it came to play rates both space marines and tau would be in the bottom half instead of the top 10 due to being utterly mid on the tabletop.
So will space marines have different faction tactics or will they just be the same faction but customizable. I don't want the orkz or the necrons being the vampire counts/oba clan equivalent
>>741443441T. faggot ayylmao nigger slave.
>>741443539>t. totally not a shitpit cleaner servitorcuck
>>741422492Around elves never relax.
>>741416924since when did the necron's consider Chaos demons "allies of convenience" they work with the Imperium more then they do chaos demons
So, between these two games how different will the fights even play out? Will it be a buffet of eatin good, or will one to both shit their pants in sheer incompitence?
>>741420157the thing is, people can make more custom content in the fantasy ones then the realistic ones
>>741434930link the modNOW
>>741443517If they give Marine chapters different campaigns and gimmicks they can do dlc forever.
>>741443663Chaos Marines*
>>741443750Total War will 100% be dogshit at launch, as is tradition for CA. It can potentially become good after patches and DLC fixing retarded bugs, performance, adding missing features and adding actual content like more factionsDoW4's devs made a whole of one game before this one, and it looked kinda mediocre so I didn't play it, but that also means I can't really gauge their skill and can't speculate whether they learned from the past
>>741443750Both will shit their pants. Dawn of war 4's developer will declare bankruptcy. Total War will keep chugging along because they are funded by the British taxpayer which means the game will eventually be decent.
>>741443871https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/47932-lizardmen-reskin-female-anthro-scalies/
>>741415994>on consoles tooIts going to be bad. The new anno also sucks because it was multiplat
>>741441616Where was it ever specified that Necrons will strictly fight for the space they once controlled instead of craving more and more domains?
>>741442712I thought eldars were second in overall psyker power only before chaos space marines, explain
>>741444415He's just wrong. The Eldar are among the best psykers in the galaxy and it is essentially with their hands tied behind their back as the Craftworld Eldar cannot use their full scope of psychic powers due to Slaanesh. The whole system of casting psychic powers via runes and shit is something they do to shield themselves from Slaanesh. There is a reason why human psykers can burst into deamons while Eldar psykers almost never suffer such fates.
>>741434930>>741444137imagine when we finally get tau
>>741444415The psychic power scale is>Thousand Sons>Tyranids>Blood Angels>General Chaos Space Marines>General Space Marines>EldarEldar psykers are always shown as getting things wrong and being weaker than other factions' psykers.
>>741445695>No random weirdboy that kills everyone by exploding himself
>>741445695Evaluating Eldar psychic powers on the prophesy stuff is fuckign retarded for multitude of reasons, chiefly because when eldar prophesies get it right, there is literally no fucking conflict narrative to tell as when shit goes right with the eldar prophesies, they simply do their thing and watch as the dominoes fall the way they predicted.The second reason why evaluating the eldar psychic powers on their prophesies is retarded because the black library writers are utterly incapable of making good narratives with the Eldar in the first place.On the gameplay level, the Eldar have been top tier psykers in the tabletop since forever.
>>741445981you're making the assumption that any of these imperium secondaries actually play the game
>>741446196Even just being a dawn of war secondary would give you the knowledge that the Eldar are top tier psykers. The psychic powers the Farseers and even Warlocks get in that game are among the most busted shit in the game.Anyone who seriously claims that the eldar aren't among the best psykers in the setting just outs themselves as a retard that has no clue about the actual lore of the setting.
I feel Chaos DLC will be weird because 40k Chaos factions, at least the CSMs and the Chaos IG, are so much closer in look and mechanics to their imperium counterparts compared to how it is in Fantasy. It’s as if all those Chaos Warriors in Fantasy had Order Warriors with oversized armor fighting them. Which I guess is what Age of Sigmar is.
>>741446196There is an obnoxious segment of secondary "fans" of 40k who are basically just fans of the imperium and have the missguided idea that 40k is some sort of humanity fuck yeah setting where humans are the bestest at everthing and the imperium somehow is entirely justified and not actually a horrifying dysfunctional dystopia. These people absolutely loathe the eldar and the tau presumably because their existence goes against their own idea of what 40k is "supposed to be".
GW will make rules for units but refuse to make a model for it.
>>741443750DoW4Build up army from scratchFocus on base building and resource productionLong drawn out skirmishes (units have high hp + reinforcement)Use command point abilities to turn fights in your favorLock down ranged units with meleeUse unit abilities and upgrade your squads during the fightTW40kStart combat with a full armyFocus on positioning, engagement ranges, rear charges and moralProbably little to no base buildingUnits die quicker, likely no reinforcementsUpgrades are developed on the campaign mapLock down ranged units with meleeUse hero unit abilities to turn the fight in your favor
>>741445981As a 1000 Sons/Daemons of Tzeentch player can we at least agree on mutual hatred of the Space Furries? The anti-psycher shit they had for awhile caused me mental damage.
>>741415994I imagine there has to be more than this, these factions make no sense for a TW game. Two of them are IoM and have almost no reason to fight each other and the other is normal Eldar, who generally only come into conflict with humans when they show up on the planet that was promised to them 40 billion years ago. Orks will obviously fight anything, including other orks, so they're fine. A lack of nids and necrons is understandable since they're gonna be a lot to manage, but no chaos is a bizarre choice if that's what they're actually doing for the final release.
>>741447497DLC
>>741414667>only one villain faction and it's the comic relief retardsShit's so lazy, I'll pass.
>>741447203I am not contesting that Tzeentch sand thousand sons are propably the best psykers/sorcerers in the setting & game. It is a pity that the game lost the psychic phase it was fun back in the day.Thousand Sons are also the best looking Chaos Marines.
>>741447497Chaos will be the preorder bonus
I'm not as up to date on the orc clans as I used to be, and I think most of them got krumped. Not really sure what clan the one on the left is supposed to be; some kinda grot orc hybrid? Either way two orc reps is an odd choice for launch.
>>741447728Why make up something like this and spout it off as if it's a fact? If chaos was going to be in at launch we'd know it already.
>>741447728They said specifically they aren't doing that again already.
>>741447817>>741447842How much does CA pay you?
>>741447554I get that, but what in the fuck is going to be the setup on release? Just humans vs orks? Maybe a contrived plot to pit them against Eldar? It makes no sense.TWW1 had>Empire>Dorfs>Orks>VampiresAll of these factions can justify fighting each other. Humans and dorfs generally get along, but it's not out of the realm of possibility for them to fight over some dumb grudge. Muhreens and guard are gonna need some really weird reason to fight, maybe we'll get the ultramarine version of lamenters, since there's no way we're getting a non-smurf chapter for at least a year after release.
>>741447894I just watched the live stream they did at the first reveal and they said they weren't doing that. The blow back on changing that would be huge.
>>741447929Dont think about it too much. Game is about land grab(planet grab in this case) so alliances arent a big deal. It is TOTAL WAR
>>741446487you're kidding yourself if you think these people played anything other than space marines or IG in the DoW games
>>741430926Five hours late because I was down the LGS playing Battlefleet Gothic but you're a dumb retard who needs to pull his head out of the paint bucket.
>>741447929the imperium fights itself more than it fights anyone else
most popular mod will remove browns and women
40k elves>Fantasy elves
>>741448468>least time in the only good gameI hope you have a non-steam excuse for this
If I ever had a friend like the Emperor had in Malcador I could die happy, the memories alone would sustain me for 10,000 years sitting on a Golden Throne. I'm going to Homebrew a Space Marine chapter that has DNA from Malcador and the Emperor.
>>741447894>says dumb shit he just pulled out of his ass>calls people shills when they don't just take him at his wordYou're a retard even by the standards of this board.
>>741446791You can blame media like Astartes or Space King for reinforcing this conception among secondaries. The most interesting aspect of the Imperium (ironically enough) is how much variety there is compared to any other faction, as you essentially have a gigantic amount of factions within the faction itself that operate with vastly different ideals & mechanics.
>Newfag 'fans' don't understand why there are two missing Primarchs that are unknown.It's all so fucking tiresome.
>>741444315they're mostly still asleep so they aren't really going out conquering. Conflicts with Necrons fall into one of three categories>oops we woke up a Tomb world>Trazyn wants something>we wandered into the Pariah Nexus
>>741449938i have never fucking seen anyone actually use them for custom primarchs, it was such a stupid fucking idea
>>741441616Wrong, some Tau Dynasties like the one Trayzn belongs to are strictly defensive in nature and HOLD what they have, while there are other Dynasties such as the one Orikan belong to that are offensive in nature and do take part in active conquest. The Necrons are more varied than you think, they have different minds with different agendas at play, different factions.
>>741450487It's more a TableTop idea, I've seen one guy who made his own homebrew Primarch and Legion for pre-heresy. It was as cringe as you can expect it to be but still fun.
>>741428315GW is one of those companies that thinks by including black women in their marketing, that they can expand their market share to begin including black women.Yes, boomers are that stupid.
>>741450487It's a remenant of a bygone time when the setting was much more open ended and focused on allowing you to insert your dudes in. Now it's just marvel heroes bouncing of each other.
>>741450686>>741450815yeah but we didn't need "blank template for custom legion" by gw, people just made theirdudes anyways, i don't even remember the last time i heard of someone calling theirdudes the 2ns or 11th legionit's gw's fault for making it canon that the 2nd and 11th were erased from imperial history and dissolved at the outset, it meant anyone who actually uses them has to be making one of "the erased legions" instead of "my cool legion"
>>741414779Boomer grogs were on usenet when you were but a twinkle in the nigger who raped your mother's eye
>>741450758I don't think I have ever in my life seen a negro playing Warhammer.
>>741450815AVENGERS ASSEMBLE!
>>741450487there's loads of bad fanfiction where people self-insert as 2 or 11 and try to unfuck it
>>741445981>On the gameplay level, the Eldar have been top tier psykers in the tabletop since forever.Eldar psykers on Tabletop are notbing but buff dispensers that are no better than regular non-psychic units. Thousand Sons completely outclass them when it comes to Psychic shenanigans.
>>741450487it's for custom Space Marine chapters, not custom primarchs
>>741447163>Units die quicker, likely no reinforcements
>>741419701Lmao they have clearly learned absolutely nothing but hey slurp it down piggie
>>741450932This shit ruined the setting more than primaris and "woke" combined
>>741452437It should always be your dudes not "I have girlyman in my army"
>>741414930they've already shown footage with 30 units per army
>>741420157all the other historical games were spin-offs with less effort put in them. Total war pharoh is basically a sequel to troy, despite being titled like a real main entry.
>>741452772troy makes me yawn so hard it's unreal.
>>741452437I like John Blanche and what he's done for the setting and John Blanche really liked Primaris Marines, he gave a very specific reason for it too. Saying that he's always loved Minitures, each painting he made, each piece of art he always had in his minds eye how it would look as a miniture, and he always wanted to see Space Marines represented fully but scaled down, not as they were on the box art of 2e and to him Primaris are the embodiment of that dream. He said that Primaris were his favourite miniture, he wanted to make a Black Templar army of Primari...but unfortunately he passed away.
>>741452886its just not a very interesting setting, which is a shame because the actual gameplay is so smooth, solid, with minimal bugs
>>741452948Sounds like he just liked the scaled up marines and not the lore of the Primaris which is definitely their weakest part.
>>741453194The interview is on Youtube, you can watch it if you like. You might be right lore for them is just the in-universe excuse for the miniature to exist, the 'fluff'.
>>741447728Chaos will release 2 weeks after launch and will cost $25 instead of being pre-order DLC. This way customers get to pay more and be happy there isnt predatory pre-order DLC. Everyone wins.
>>741449902space king and the retards who made it are genuinely fucking obnoxious
>>741454817What was funny those two clowns reacted to the latest cinematic trailer from GW that was showing off 11e and they proved themselves psueds by not knowing the Rogue Trader quote, and thinking the "The Universe is a big place, and you will not be missed" was a recent addition.
>>741415994Lmao they put the ork boy in the imperial guard screen. It's still alpha but sloppy anyways
what xenos is this thing?
>>741455790Kroot mercenary
>>741450930Nor will you ever see a black woman in your entire life play Elder Scrolls, or WoW, or CS, or Dota, or anything like that. But boomer investors will again, and again, and again, and again, put black women in their marketing because they think if they do it enough times, they can expand their market share to black women.
>>741450930>>741456121This was London a couple of weeks ago, the tournament there. Notice anything? Or the lack of? In London of all places.
>>741446791>>741449902>Dipshits stuck in thebpast still haven't gotten the memo40k is the Space Marine and Friends setting. It has beeen for years, and it only ever managed to exist because Space Marines sell so well. GW's ongoing efforts putting greater focus on the Imperium as (rightful) heroes has been astronomically successful both in terms of business and narrative. Xenos have only ever mattered in regards to how well they act as antagonists. Eldar and Tau do not make good antagonists as they do not embrace the role, where Chaos and other Xenos readily do so.Eldar will never be portrayed or accepted as a major faction because for GW Eldar do not matter. Eldar fans are an extreme minority. Eldar lore is completely uninteresting to 95% of the playerbase. Eldar have, for many editions, been a bogeyman faction infamous for being the army of sweatlords and WAACfags. There is no money to be made in promoting Eldar, and any effort to do so would just be wasted.Eldar are, in all things, an NPC faction. If you wanted to be big and important then you should have been fans of the Imperium.
>>741450930I have seen two.One was a dude with a really cool Chaos Daemons army.Another was a bit of a weeb with a Raptors army.
>>741456774Kill yourself retarded tertiary
>>741456767Half of these mongoloids will still give money to Gaymes Wokeslop, even after they infested the game with niggers and trannies
>>741456874Seethe harder.
>>741456939I'm not the one peddling retarded tertiary opinions as facts. The xenos races are integral to the setting just as the Imperium is. Subhuman morons like you who want xenos races to be removed from 40k are cancer.
>>741456774this is only true due to how little focus gw gives xenos, and how much they give space marinesthe recent necron refresh + update has massively increased interest in necrons because there's now more to be interested in, gw just doesn't understand the basics of their own business, leave half of their factions with half an army and wonder why people aren't too interested in them
>>741456884>People competing in Warhammer tournaments will buy Warhammer shitGood job Sherlock. Do you have any more deep deductions to share?
>>741456884Well yeah they love the Table Top and as much as GW are an arse company there's nothing else the size of it for what it offers. There are smaller table top games, but you know what? Personally I really enjoy the lore and the stories of WH40K (more so the Great Crusade and Heresy era) and being able to play out those battles and campaigns on the Tabletop is really fun. It's shit GW and the woke tarts in Nottingham hold the I.P. but I personally try my best to circumvent GW as much as possible when it comes to my own minis and how i 'acquire' my hobby items.
>>741455559Doesn't surprise me one bit. They've always been fucking tourists to the hobby
>>741457137>The xenos races are integral to the setting just as the Imperium is.The success of Horus Heresy completely obliterates that claim.>>741457148Why should they bother focusing on xenos who, as a combined front, make less money than Marines.Tau get an update? Nobody cares.Eldar get an update? Forgotten in a week.Votann? Ongoing joke of a faction.Tyranids get a big focus for an edition? Tossed out immediately after their release.Only a single GW product has EVER managed to outsell Marines, and it's not even from Warhammer.
>>741456767Yeah, niggers.
>>741416924>necrons being allies of convenience with chaos and tau but not eldarI don't buy it
>>741422492Generally Eldar think Dark Eldar are degenerate scum, and Dark Eldar think Eldar lame, and they absolutely will fight each other, but they can also align. Varies by Craftworld though, there's been at least one Craftworld that went to war against the Deldar for raiding Imperials they were allied to
>>741457514Did you maybe forget the Necrons and Eldar are mortal enemies and despise each other?
>>741457514Necrons have a very silly 'rivalry' with Eldar, as the latter seem to think they were ever actually equal to the former.
>>741457514necrons being desperate allies with orks but not eldar or imperium really makes no sensedeldar being desperate allies with chaos is total nonsense too
>>741457585>>741457616There's some instances in the lore of a begrudging respect as ancient enemies, I just find Necrons being more likely to ally with Chaos very weird
>>741457416>Why should they bother focusing on xenos who, as a combined front, make less money than Marines.because, as i said, they don't give focus to them. the recent range updates for necrons, eldar, and orks made people really want to play more necrons, eldar, and orks, it's that simple. when you make a faction interesting, they gather interestyou don't seem to get it dude, marines are the most popular because gw gives them the most spotlight, it's just cause and effect
>>741457471What is there even to say?
>>741457662The only thing that doesn't make sense is the Necrons not being able to ally with the imperium. Eldar and Necrons are ancient enemies and some Eldar hate them even more then they do Chaos.
>>741457416Horus heresy lives in the shadow of 40k retard. That game is nowhere near as popular as 40k is.>inb4 "I was talking about the novels!"Lmao, anyone who reads black library slop is a retarded subhuman
>>741457836Age of Sigmar BTFO HH funnily enough
>>741457416>The success of Horus Heresy completely obliterates that claim.LOL
>>741445981Funnily enough, as much as Eldar job in BL stuff, whenever we do get an Eldar psyker vs Space Marine psyker, the Eldar psyker has always won. It's like the one thing they're consistent about
>>741457836>anyone who reads black library slop is a retarded subhumanNever tell a horus heresy/marines lop novel fanboys tourist the fact that it's these garbage failed author retards behind those books who are pushing woke shit like female custodes into 40k. Remember how hh novels revealed that it was a woman who was behind the creation of the primarchs just as much if not more than the Emperor lmao. Or how there are no binary tranny admech characters in some other bl novels.There is fucking zero reason to ever read anything coming from black library. 9 out of 10 times those books are pure garbage
>>741447929They're heavily emphasizing Armageddon in the marketing, we already know Yarrick and Ghaz are in
>>741458194The Space Marine legendary lord will probably be Calgar since we know he's present (ugh). Wonder who the Eldar will be, if not the obvious Eldrad
>>741458194someone explain to me why we're back at armageddon, make it make sensegw can't be this bankrupt they need the nostalgia baiting
>>741457836>>741458132Dont care still luv me 'orus 'eresy
>>741458270Eldrad is very likely given that the eldar featured in the cover art are in Uthwe colors
>>741458320Nobody is preventing from reading the daddy issue bara drama series, just don't expect actual fans of 40k to respect your retarded opinions about the setting.
Exodites will be a DLC faction for the Eldar, so will Dark Eldar an Craft world eldar.>>741458426>Wants respect from your average 40k fanThe one who smells like shit because he doesn't use deodorant or the one who dresses like his Mummy still clothed him?
>>741458316>why we're back at armageddonwhy not
>>741458316To sell more plastic crack, anon.
>>741458492Craftworld Eldar are a launch faction
>>741458680Craft World Eldar are but what about the Eldar who are not Craft Worlder, not Exodites, not Dark Eldar?The Ynnari? I DON'T CARE THIS MEME HAS BEEN RUN INTO THE DIRT IT'S STILL FUNNY TO ME DAMN IT!
>>741458874No one is left with the Ynnari, Eldrad left
>>741459021Didn't GW just sort of forget about them after Robote's resurrection?
>>741459058They had two lame novels by Gav Thorpe, and then had a campaign book that culminated in them jobbing really badly. Most recently, all the major Eldar characters that had joined them left
>>741414667The most popular mod will be the one that turns shitmaris into real space marines.
>>741459563blanche designed the primaris space marines too, anon
>>741459563>Posts a picture of John Blanche while shitting on what he liked most about recent WH40K. >>741452948
>>741434930What did the Old ones mean by this?
>>741459615>>741459649He said he liked them in a PR interview and added nothing more as to why, he also added that he probably will never paint them, atleast get your sources right retarded nulore niggers.
>>741459881That wasn't a PR interivew you silly tart, it was a biographical interview. Who was the PR for? It's not for GW in the same interviews he shits on Ultramarines which are GW's representation of Space Marines.
>>741459058The whole thing was very poorly received, nobody really liked it at all and it most likely failed to drive the kind of sales that GW was hoping for. I also think there's a non-zero chance that there was pushback from inside the studio over trying to soup-ify the Eldar and Dark Eldar ranges, the Eldar are virtually the only army in the game to have remained pretty much aesthetically unchanged since the 90s (and completely unchanged since 4th edition in the mid-2000s) so I think they must have been a pretty senior figure pushing back against any attempts to change them over the years.
>>741442137fuck ya mudda
>>741459939>he shits on UltramarinesBased
>>741458874The ynnari are irrelevant and unwanted. Garbage memes like that have ensured it that no actual eldar fan has any fucking interest in them.
>>741459881 not all of us were in blanche's inner circle of family and close friends who also read his diary and overhead internal monologue.gomenasai
>>741452437Are you one of those people who actually liked the setting being totally stagnant where absolutely nothing happened ever?
Is Cor'Bax Utterblight the worst model ever made?
>>741459058Pic related happened specifcially for the Ynnari and it was recieved so badly GW outright stopped doing faction vs boxes outside of edition starters.Eldar are already a joke, Ynnari aren't even funny.
>>741460404The scale of 40k means everything can be happening everywhere faggot. Enjoy your marvel slop
>>741460594That box was very expensive for what it had and half of the models in it were models both eldar and deldar players already had. Only Drazar, Jain Zhar and the banshees & the incubi were new as in being in plastic whereas everything else in it was old. The fucking vyper especially
>>741460798>the scale of 40K means nothing can be happening everywhere.Enjoy your nothing happening except the same Black Crusade and Armageddon campaigns on repeat, Clown-Faggot.
>>741460919The setting exists to facilitate battles between armies of plastic toy soldiers, not for some grand narratives
>>741461242>nothing happening ever is good aktuallyBattles between armies of plastic soldiers will always be happening no matter what. You're whining about basically nothing.
>>741461391Nothing happening was preferable to the retarded marvelslop 40k is evolving into
>>741461442Primarchs being brought back is so fucking gay for example. I don't want to see those models in my games because they warp any random little skirmish into pure nonsense by their involvement. It's no longer about your dudes fighting against your mate's dudes in some bumfuck corner of the galaxy, having primarchs on the field just breaks the vibe.
>>741461619They should have stayed contained in Horus Heresy. They made that setting as containment for that shit and then broke it almost as soon as they could.
>>741461740Yeah. Primarchslop is pure garbage in general and the more those figures are elaborate on the worse their characterization becomes. Horus Heresy was a mistake
>>741460404nothing happening was preferable to the slop we're getting now
>>741460534have you seen the old catachan?
>>741460041no one wants the cross-platform Admech spam either but here we are
>>741461391>Battles between armies of plastic soldiers will always be happening no matter whatI dunno man, have you taken a look at the latedt rules? I'm starting to look at other wargames at this rate.
>>741462287NTA but I currently play Kill Team myself. It's one of the rare games they made that are actually alright rules wise.
>>741462391is there actually a good population of people who play it? i thought 40kfags get weird about anything less than a 2k point game
>>741462391It's honestly kinda funny>Kill Team has decent skirmish rules>AoS actually manages to have good and thematic rules>MESBG is still touted as one of GW's best games in terms of rules>HH and Old World both have decent rules for their respective approachesMeanwhile>40k tabletop is a colossal dumpster fire of terrible balance, horribly inadequate playtesting, and extremely lame rules
>>741460404The setting is as stagnant as it ever was, the only difference is now there's a new "expansion" about named characters getting into completely meaningless and inconsequential slapfights over nothing coming out every few months to fool gullible idiots into thinking that the plot is advancing. Back then GW was at least honest that the setting was frozen in 999.M41 and the Forge World team was free to release the best 40k game books ever written because turns out 10,000 years and a million worlds leaves a whole fuckton of space to come up with whatever narrative you want.
>>741457972I'm surprised to see Warmachine on that list.As much as I love the universe, I thought that shit died.
>>741463893>After years they bring Huron back>He's set up to face Prince Yriel, who's also returning after years of absence>Both sides get a slew of new models, with Red Corsairs gettind dedicated units for the first time ever and Corsairs rounding out the last of the needed refreshes for Eldar>Everything's ready for a big Pirate v Pirate campaign>It gets turned into a single shitty book where Yriel sneaks into Huron's house and gets his teeth kicked in, but while he's crawling away the author makes sure to say that it made Huron REALLY annoyed so it's akshully a draw>Immediately pivots away to focus on Iron Autists getting a really mediocre unit wave.
>>741464289bro, this dude thought an eldar might DO something?? even WIN something???? LMAOOOOO
>>741464410NTA but that's not even an Eldar thing any more, pretty much every modern 40k campaign book is like that.
>>741463102Where I am it's like a fourth of the 40k crowd which is still solid. I can reliably get a game every week.
>>741416924I feel like none of those spaces should be green.
>>741465148If you look at it the only non-same faction greenery is Chaos Marines with Demons (valid) and Eldar and DEldar, which is a bit more debatable but still fine.
>>741422660why is dark angels x dark angels left blank when they should be hostile?
>The major theme of the setting is entropy and the decline and painfully slow rotting of a once great empire>"hurr, why is it stagnant"
>>741465453This is before the Fallen were a thing in universe.
>>741458194I just hope the Steel Legion is actually modeled in (They wont be)
>>741420351Nobody cares tourist shill.If GW wanted something trademarkable without it sounding retarded, then they could've picked up Eladrith from Codex Dark Eldar (5th ED).
>>741426703Actually Eldar do hold certain planets. Maiden Worlds are a thing.
>>741467338Basically every Maiden world ever mention either gets irreperably damaged or gets taken away from the Eldar.
>>741434490>source: trust me bro
>>741426703they're just going to be a vampire coasts faction, the entire thing will be a lazy reskin and they'll dodge it by focusing on like one or two systems for cover and ranged weapon accuracy because nobody competent works at CA anymore
>>741439370where do i get started reading more about Deldars? They seem visually interesting
>>741469883Find PDFs of the old Path Of The Dark Eldar trilogy, they're considered among the best Xenos fiction.Valedor focuses on Craftworld Eldar but also features substantial Dark Eldar presence.Don't read the Lelith book.
>>741469998thanks anon
>>741414667>Most popular mod Wont be a HH or Firstborn mod. ok sure.
>>741428315Wasting the Emperor's currency (by not using anyone regardless of race) is heresy.
>>741469883Pirate pdfs of all their codexes (their rulebooks for the tabletop) across the editions. Codexes are the definitive 1st hand info, books and stuff are by definition secondary content.
>>741469409Seems like. Semi-horde faction. Probably get some faction resource for each World you take and turn into a "Maiden" World or some shit while the Craftworld is your main economy/recruitment center. I say "Maiden" because I imagine they'll be called they, no matter how much dicking they've already taken from the Imperials or Orks.
>>741474402Maiden Worlds can't nade any more, the terraforming technology used to create them is no longer operable since it requires more psychic energy than modern Eldar can muster due to Slaanesh. It's why Eldar defend Maiden Worlds so harshly, they literally can't make more and they're prime targets for Imperial settlers.
>>741472626Does information such as their lore (not their gameplay) change between the codexes?
>>741475169Yes. Warhams as a franchise has been going on since the mid 80's and has been passed around between hundreds of writers, it would be easier to list the things that haven't been retconned.
>>741415419>>741415438Imagine being contrarian enough to defend those retarded muzzle flashes on lasguns.
