What made Genshin skyrocket compared to other Gachashit?
CovidFirst big 3d open world gacha so no competition
>>741419984In a market saturated by cheap japanese 2d png autobattlers, it was the first of its kind to be a 3D open world game that destroyed the mold. It had a huge budget, characters and artstyle that people liked, content every month, voiced in a bunch of languages for all audiences, it was the perfect storm of a video game mixing up a genre that was completely stagnant.
>>741419984who even cares, it gets utterly mogged by the competition now because hoyo refuses to invest into genshin, they would rather pump out more gachaslops
>>741419984Covid helped it a lot and it was the first 3d open world gacha game.
>>741419984They have the best anime game graphics of all "anime" games I've seen. It doesn't look like 3D slop, it looks like a real artwork. Also godlike OST plus elemental combat ripped from divinity original sin, which is pretty fun at least at start. So yeah, it was just a good small game, and then they fed it with infinite money to produce tons of content to keep the playerbase alive.
>>741420028>>741420323>>741420631>>741420674Don't forget how it piggybacked off the recent runaway success of Zelda: Breath of the Wild, to the point people were pitching fits about how similar the two games appeared to play at first glance.
>>741419984accessibilitya lack of other optionsglobal pandemic
>>741420593>refuses to invest into genshinthis, they should invest in Cyberpunk instead
>>741421214I absolutely hated zelda though. Even though I played it for free with 4k 60 fps and mods. So that doesn't really make any sense.
>>741421385They should invest in loli dating sims because this is what all real gamers want.
>>741420674https://youtu.be/ilPAuQXa_58
>>741419984Covid and piggybacking off of Zelda's success. It also helps that it's free
>>741419984Range when it comes to both female and male characters. All the other gachas embrace just the females.
>>741419984It was like a 4rth gacha from the devs, with previous, Honkai Impact 3rd being already popular. The promise of f2p BotW available on mobile and PC was enough to lure the people in (remember there were no other open-world gachas then), and the game was made well enough to make them stay, despite the jankiness.
>>741420593>never makes lolisKusoge>>741419984Sometimes makes lolis but only 4*Slightly less kusoge, but still kuso.
>>741421448That just means you aren't a people, retard.
>>741419984The smut was holy
>>741421791That means those are completely different games with completely different gameplay and their target audience doesn't intersect.
>>741421817Especially the gay porn. I'm of course talking about the girly boys, like Venti and Xingqiu. The femboys have some great gay porn.
>>741421667This is always overlooked, its got a cast that appeals to everyone. Not just men not just women but a good 50/50 split really helps the mass appeal
Huge advertising investment. Now fuck off.
>>741419984It actually is a game first. You can get the full enjoyment out of the game (exploring areas with unique mechnaics), and never touch the gacha.
>>741422583honestly it's nice that the game doesn't bombard you with all the shit it wants you to buycompared to HSR or wuwa the store and event tabs are blissfully simple
So if I have this right, Genshin Impact succeeded because>First open world action RPG in the (F2P) gacha space, available on mobile and PC>Riding the coattails of Zelda:BotW>One of the lucky pandemic blockbusters>Plays and feels like a real big budget AAA game (because it kinda was)>Characters that appeal to both men and womenSo it found a niche in a market desperate for something new, with a massive captive and primed audience available to receive it, and a big enough budget to capitalize on it and create what is essentially a real-ass game. That's as perfect a storm as anyone can ask for.
The real answer is that Genshin was essentially the first Console/PC gacha.Gacha was relegated to 2D mobile games, and so when Genshin was announced, people were looking at the animation work from Honkai Impact 3rd and hyping Genshin up even more.It's the simple reality that Genshin was the first big budget mobile game to come across to PC/Console. That's really it.
>>741419984it was a zelda clone at the start which garnered a lot of interest
>>741419984The Kung Flu
>>741420593Was there a single month where wuwa actually beat genshin
>other gachas: new region every patch, events up the ass, constant powercreep, every character gets multiple skins>genshin: 7 hour long VN every patch, nothing elseit's a simple life
>PAIMON GET TO FUCKING COVER
>>741424737oh shit, new elementLEAD
>do a trial for the new fujo bait>hey this guy looks kinda cool, I might roll a 20 or a 30 on him>voiced like a literal serial killer>literally slits your throat in pov during a burstwhy the fuck are women like this
>>741424737Please let you switch to gun mode. Give travellah something Hoyo.
I'm picking Genshin back up after 5 years. I only got to the end of Mondstat.I just want someone to tell me good things. All that matters is story and boss fights.
>>741419984Making this game offline would make them even more billions, why are they so jewish, let me pirate it.
>>741424924Liyue is the absolute worst part of the game, don't be disheartened. The game picks up significantly with the Chasm/Inazuma. Areas get much better gimmicks and puzzles that make them feel unique from that point on.
>>741424924Don't do character quests unless you actually like the character, they're mostly boring. For me world quests are the best content in the game, they always have cool areas to explore and cool stories. The main quest can drag on but just take it slow and you'll enjoy it, there's a payoff for everything, it's like One Piece, it's a slow story that can be retarded sometimes but it has a lot of great moments and the scale of your adventure is epic>>741424986I liked Liyue, the ending was a bit retarded but Cheld and Zhong were cool and they carried the story
>>741424737I saw this randomly on X and redownloaded the game immediately. The fact that they’ve got the balls to do random shit like this.
Everyone excited for the upcoming last region?
>>741424986>better puzzlesDoes Genshin actually have puzzles?
>>741425342I hope it's the last one and they don't drag this arc out for one more year. And I hope they start with a new map for the 2.0 reboot because it's already 140GB
>>741425342>moon>russiaIsn’t this Endwalker
>>741423303>Plays and feels like a real big budget AAA gamesingle A if we're being generous, it's janky af
>>741425389Yeah, the little puzzles you find in the open world and in dungeons. They're not much, just something you quickly solve and move on
>>741424924that was me like 2 years ago and BOY do I not regret getting back inI love this stupid fucking game
>>741425342>lastheh
>>741425463Every once in a wild there's a pretty good puzzle. Economics of scale I guess.
>>741425417>>741425549It's the last major region. I can't imagine Khaenriah is the same size as any of the 7. I don't doubt their will be a full year of endgame bullshit after Snez though, but I doubt we'll ever get another giant map addition.
>>741425389usually it's small, localized things (basically Portal Test Chambers) but every now and then there's a damn goose hunt or something more involved
Downloading the game again, thanks for the advertising campaign China, can I get Yelan this time around or will you simply not ever let me have her just because I never spend a single cent in the game and got Furina, Skirk and other cool characters?
I got burned out and dropped it when Natlan was first released, don’t know if it’s worth coming back to, probably yes considering there’s tons to explore by now since the entire Natlan and new regions are released
>>741419984Male characters.
>>741425706>Khaenriah is the same size as any of the 7Nod Krai is tiny but it still took a year. I don't think they'll do Khaenriah though, they've explored too much of its story already, there's hardly any mystery left.
>>741425342I'm excited for the game to end but I know they don't have the balls
>>741425109It's almost criminal how much better world quests are than character quests.
>>741424924Basically it's great all the way until !france. They start dumbing down exploration in Sumeru, but in Fontain it gets really bad. Dragonspine is where the game peaked (no pun intended).
>>741421520yeaaah i'll pass on that low t faggotry
>>741425781How could they not? It's the most JRPG final dungeon flag ever, that big fucking door under Sumeru needs to get open.
>>741425730Yelan is not sneeded in current meta. Do roll on the next banner though, Sandrone should be good
>>741425827Sumeru is my favorite but I thought Fontaine and Natlan are solid especially the dungeon type areas of both. Nodkrai is pretty small, but I liked the fog forest and the Fatui base.
>>741425836>most JRPG final dungeon flag everThat would be Celestia, the thing has been hanging over our heads since 1.0
>>741425887I do not care if she is needed or not, her armpits need to be in my mouth.
>>741425929I would have agreed if we didn't just do the Temple of Space. Now it feels redundant.
>>741425706Khaenriah could easily be as massive as any of the other regionsand if you have been paying attention abyss order is going to merge khaenriah of the past in to the current reality so it doesn't have to be just ruins and they can makes characters from there
>>741426331Nod Krai main quest spent hours in Khaenriah too though, really fleshed the place out, not much left to do there
>>741420674>They have the best anime game graphics of all "anime" games I've seenplease play a second anime game before you make such a shitty comment
>>741426567It was true on launch though
>>741419984just the china viruspeople were locked insider their homes with nothing to do
>>741426567all the others look like PS2 titles or Unreal abominations thoughI suppose wuwa is the exception
>>741420028these were good starting bonuses but the amount of stuff added allowed it to survive and flourish for several years
Simply because it was the first one. It delivered on its promise of players playing in a gigantic open world action rpg. Think of it like the WoW of Gachaslop. Right down to the fact that it's currently shifting the bed for normal players but addicted players with sunk costs will stay in the game to justify their 5-6 digit expenditures. I quit after 5.0.and I only blew about a hundred to get c6 Furina. If they add a skip cutscene or fast forward button I'll undoubtedly return. But I can't sit through all these cutscenes the story lost me after Fontaine peak.
>>741420593>refuses to invest into genshinMiliastra alone mogs anything any company has ever done for their gameregardless, wuwa will never be good since its story sucks, its exploration sucks and its combat sucks
>>741426567>>741426628Pretty sure is still true. Japan literally cannot into good anime graphics and I don't think there are any other games that did anime style a justice. >>741426770Wuwa specifically looks like a generic 3D slop. That's exactly the opposite of what I like about genshin's style and render pipeline. I want backgrounds to look like paintings, not UE store assets.
>>741426905>fast forward button I'll undoubtedly returnthey're adding something similar next patch. you won't need to wait for character animations anymore and can tap skip dialogue immedieately
>>741427110I don't think wuwa is that ugly but genshin really does come out on top in terms of visual design.doesn't help that lahai roi was ugly as FUCK
>>741424924How can you keep up with the meta since you skipped that game for 5 years?
You know what, the slower pace of the game is nice. I got used to Wuwas wall running and NTEs driving but Genshin sort of forces you to take in the world. It’s not bad.
>>741425389It used to. With very few exceptions, they haven't made any good puzzles since Inazuma. Genshin dropped the BotW/puzzle/exploration focus in favor for being just another story-focused gacha JRPG when they released Sumeru.
>>741427372Just get Columbina + Ineffa and put literally any DPS in their wheelchair, add Benny and you're in meta. Or get Sandrone next patch and get ready for Snezh meta
>>741419984it appealed to trannies
>>741426331Why? We did one shade’s sort of personal trophy case / toy exhibit? How does that compare to the actual main thing?
>>741427448sometimes I do wish I could move faster but the game has me walking around and enjoying the scenery a lotI guess Natlan characters are as good as any mount
>>741421910It's because it doesn't have gay little dollies to collect(whale for) and a built in grooming trooncord
There are so many layers of dinduing in this story that I can't even keep track of who is and isn't a dindu anymore. This new guy seems pretty evil but he's going to pull a dindu once we meet him in Snezh isn't he
>>741427602I'm in the same boat with anon IF they do exactly the same with Celestia (mash up of all the nations). The Temple ended up as a sort of museum where elements from all the nations got preserved, and since Celestia seems to be taking in folks from all over Teyvat, it seems logical to assume they'll take a similar approach in its design.What I want is a completely new zone with new architecture and everything.
>>741427759>Celestia seems to be taking in folks from all over TeyvatIs it? Based on what, the manga from 1.0 that's never been mentioned since? Celestia is probably completely empty right now
>>741427708Chinks and modern weebs are unable to accept they can enjoy villains
>>741421214clones get made all the time, it just got extremely lucky with its timing. like once 100 years lucky.
>>741419984Good representation of cute feet.
>>741427708OHHHHHHHHHH ELDEN RING
>>741422106Genshin did not have a huge advertising budget for when it originally came out.
the raped
>>741427940puffy cheeks
>>741427813>Is it?WELL IT'S NOT CLEAR kekthe assumption is that Celestia uplifts vision bearers from all over Teyvat (just like they put random people in the Space Temple) as its inhabitants.>Celestia is probably completely empty right nowalso possible but that would be kinda anticlimactic. I expect them to do another nation with people just living their lives and us helping them with the exception that there are no archons. We only know that the Heavenly Principles are out of commission afaik.Would be kinda lame if they turned it into just an exploration zone with reused assets.
>>741428050I expect it to just be an arena in a battle against the shades at the end of 7.0, that would make sense
>>741427940She won!
>>741419984well timed zelda ripoff that brownies could technically run on their devices
>>741428256The losing epic powers of an ancient god for no reason whatsoever competition
>>741428186I bet we'll have 8.x being kaenri'ah and then 9.x being celestia
>>741428297Zhongli wins that one though
>>741427110>>741426770>>741427110ni no kuni? dragon quest? skyward sword? okami? tales? i mean what the fuck are you guys even talking about? is genshin impact your first fucking game you dumb fucking zoomers? do you even understand that genshin doesn't even have its own artstyle? there's no auteur art director like in virtually every fucking anime game from japan. they have a BOARD and their designs are as generic as they come. you gacha cumbrains will really convince yourself of anything to uphold your agenda
>>741419984TimingMarketingActually being a real game and not a png collector
>>741419984My wife.
>>741419984>Genshin>skyrocketWuthering Waves is literally the most popular gacha in the world, and gensharts literally couldn't catch up to Wuwa anymore that they already given up on inviting new players to play genshart instead and maintain their current status quo as the biggest cuck of the gacha space.
>>741428256The anal circumference championship.
>>741420674I think ZZZ looks better, personally. I'd kill for a Tales game with ZZZ graphics.
>>741421775>Honkai Impact 3rd>popularPunishing Gray Raven is far more popular than that garbage kek. Either you're living in a cave or you're delusional hoyoshill.
>>741428676LMAO
>>741428516>anons say jp games look like ps2>ni no kuni?>look that game upbro this aint helping
>>741428407Zhongli traded his powers for an attempted genocide of his own people. Not sure why he did it but hey it's something at least
>ZZZ>11,819 In-Game>Wuwa>23,657 In-GameWuwon so fucking hard
>>741428736Nice ESL non sequitur
>>741419984At the time it came out it was basically a free breath of the wild but with cute girls, so naturally it sold like hotcakes. The game isnt a whole lot to write home about, but the company is riding the momentum they got with its initial success exceptionally well.
>>741428516>ni no kuni? dragon quest? skyward sword? okami? talesThey all look way worse than Genshin, have you even played any of them. Wuwa, ZZZ and Endfield look better than Genshin. Xenoblade/Tales of do not, to this day
>>741428874>>741428736Both are soulless games with no story, mogged by the epic Genshin odyssey
>>741428940Hoyoshills aren't really very self-aware
>>741428987I called ZZZ soulless and the Wuwa NPC thinks I'm a hoyoshill because anyone criticizing Wuwa must be
>>741428516Then you must be blind because all of your examples look like absolute garbage. Making believable anime graphics is hard, and it's kinda funny that Japan of all places absolutely sucks at making games with good anime graphics. No, just slapping a cell-shading on a generic 3D pipeline doesn't make your game "anime". The only good thing they did was Live2D.>do you even understand that genshin doesn't even have its own artstyleIt literally does. And you are obviously blind again or just using bad faith arguments because you are buttmad. Either way no point at even attempting to have a discussion with you then.
>>741427372>Keep with the metaFor what purpose? Genshin might have the most pointless meta in all gaming.
>>741428987>zzz>stock pose 1Come on now
2D gacha>Brown shart 2 shilling and insecurity3D gacha>Wuthering sharts shilling and insecurityFascinating
>>741429124Does Limbus even have a launcher, I think it's just a steam only game
>>741429304Nod Krai is kind of annoying without the Lunar reactions
>>741424924the story is bad up until sumeruthen it becomes kino but also much more dialog heavy
>>741429513Sumeru is the only story I didn't like and they just redeemed it with the new quest
>genshit cucks starts getting offended around Wuwa superiorityHoes mad
>>741428685PGR was not popular compared to HI3 when Genshin came out.
>>741429676>genshin thread>insecure wuwafagName a more iconic combo
>>741429676>WuWa Superiority>Has never once beaten Genshin>Can only compare to ZZZ to be proud of itself
>>741429734Now it is, in fact HI3 got absolutely mogged that PGR still gets constant updates while HI3 just declared ending its part 2 a while ago because the whole game is on life support lmaoStay mad hoyodrone
>>741429830I'm pretty sure Wuwa completely mogged ALL hoyo games combined this month.
Hoyodrones can't stop humiliating themselves yikes
>>741429871Okay? The topic was about when Genshin came out though?
>>741430130This is the state of genshit btw
>the schizos are here
>>741430182The animations are an annoyance since you can't skip them. Looks great the first couple of times sure.
Genshitters WOULD NEVER
>>741430093>>741428736ZZZ beat Wuwa launch day+anniversary btw
>>741419984It's a good game
>>741430304Yea and that's why nobody likes to see people play Wuwa... oh wait....
Is this just a poorly attempted ragebait or Wuwa players are really this deluded and insecure? I can even agree that it's probably the only non hoyo game that managed to at least came close to Genshin, but what it's the purpose of this?
>>741430182>wuwafags will tell you right is bettercomplete lack of self-awareness
Better question is why would anyone even torture themselves by playing low effort shit like genshit or honkai shit rail?
>>741430182but does right sing while she attacks?
>>741430338oh nonono sisters...
>wuwajeet threadewww
>>741419984Came out during the pandemic and also set a new level of quality for gacha games, you didnt have big 3d high budget gacha games like this prior to Genshin
>>741430227at this point they're so pathetic i'm starting to think they're just genshin players trying to make other gacha players look mentally ill by false flagging
>>741430376Look at youtube sometime. There a few content creators whose entire thing is picking out stuff to compare Genshin and WuWa like animations, etc and whose comment sections are full of “I used to play Genshin but it became garbage and WuWa is so much better.” I really hope they are paid advertisers because otherwise it’s truly sad.
>>741430093>>741430338>genshin thread>wuwafag crying about zzzJust because you're in love with a company doesn't mean other people are. I like Genshin, not ZZZ
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>>741430750This is a Genshin thread, wuwajeet. Go make a zzz one and cry in that
>>741430182>drops a projectile directly on the enemy>charging does a teleport that phases through attacks>if paired with dendro character fires off extra projectilesPractical and straightforward>Oh god particles>Shitting particles everywhere>Wooooo you zoom around and shoot more particles >Literally takes twice as long to go through then the leftShit
HSR mogs the shit out of WuWa even on its worst patches
>NOOOOOOOOOOO DONT CRITICIZE HOYO SLOP GAMES
are these chinkshills seriously pretending hoyslop looks good?
>>741430863Apparently yes. Hoyodrones are THIS delusional
I don't give a fuck about mihoyo or their other gamesI opened this thread to discuss GenshinWhat the fuck is happening?
i want to impregnate amber and buy a home in mondstadt
>>741430919Who the fuck even plays genshit, moreover, any other hoyo slop nowadays?
The worst Hoyokino >>> your favourite game
>>741429118nigger that looks like soulless dogshit, giving you brownoid sub-humans internet access was a mistake
>>741430919wuwa players saw the thread and it triggered them
>>741430919Corporate drones projecting, tendie style
>>741431008The brownoid subhumans play WuWa and don’t like Genshin. WuWa is more popular in SEA and there.
>>741420028Got it success for being an anime BoTW, and there's basically no other competition of this scale/quality from any other titles, and it's free. Every other anime games before that just reeks of cheap gameplay (not like Genshin has that much gameplay either). But really, compare Genshin to the likes of Neptunia which was mostly 4 niggas in a row.
>>741430919WuWa players
>>741431034>y-you play gachaslop liek m-mewrong, brownoid >>741431086You're all brown tranny subhumans who should be killed unironically irl
>>741431034they all make my pp hard. your argument doesn't work on me.
AROUND ELVES WATCH YOURSELVES
>>741430667Yeah, i know that wuwa's entire fanbase is composed of just constantly seething ex-Genshin players, but doing stuff like this isn't gonna help them in any way, except making a few people mad for a minute tops.
This is the peak of genshit as we know it
NTE bros assemble
>>741431459Not even close but continue seething that WuWa isn’t as popular?
>>741431509Leave us out of this schizo fight.
>>741421957I want to do despicable things to Venti
>>741431537Wuwa is more popular than genshit tho?https://x.com/redbullgaming/status/2067261232227467768Hoyo would NEVER
>>741424737Focus, T
>>741430093Imagine having one of the biggest IPs of the last 10 years crossover, just to lose to Maplestory in the year fucking 2026.
>>741419984First one that is an open world RPG
>>741432086well it was fucking shit
>>741420593>be genshin>get infinity billion dollar offer from Tencent due to your crazy success>reject it on principle lol>couple years pass>tencent buys majority stocks in Kuro, currently floundering their last hope due to an abysmal launch>pump millions upon millions into their game to save it>hire shills and useful idiots bribed with free pulls to parade around that your 2 year old game is beating a nearly 7 year old game>shamelessly copy regional story beats, even character shilloettes in some regards>still the red headed step child despite all efforts>use insider leaks to try and beat Hoyo to story beats first>get ABSOLUTELY MOGGED when hoyo finally gets to them>make a lmaonalien MC, give them a giant god robot to fight other alien god robot on moon as a major plot event>Genshin going to the moon finally, whole map has reduced gravity kino, y2k space odyssey epic-scale set pieces left and right, and a Station submap confirmed to have Zero G movement while some nigger from outerspace is blasting the surface to eradicate (you)>Tencent still funneling more money into WuWa desperately chasing character popularity trends and a shamefull return to China soon as Genshin wheels up for the big climax to the first Arc with Arc 2 confirmed already in development>your biggest income ever was a soft relaunch then a collab where idiots bought the wrong pull currency days prior and thus whaled to get the limited whores maxed out because god knows if the collab will ever return unlike GODrails perma Fate-Stay bannersBeing a Kurofag is just a humiliation ritual at this point
>>741431636you want to put your urine stick in his poop hole?
>>741431459Genuine sovl.
>Youtube video doomposting about any Hoyo game>Check channel>Has videos about praising the shit out of WuwaEvery Single Time
genshin is weird. women are the majority of the player base and you can see how it influenced character designs. look at ganyu and fischl during the first 2 years. now everyone is overdressed.the discord, official forums, and even genshin general thread on /vg/ are female dominant.
>>741419984Mentally ill trannies
>>741432504>Women are the ones using social mediaShocking. Hoyo has said the game is majority male players though the female players are higher than most gacha games. Something like a 6.5/3.5 split.
>>741419984>all these coping repliesIt's a good fucking game, that's all.Combat is just deep enough to be interesting, exploration is amazing, story is great. You pick it up and you have 500+ hours of content straight away without any timewalls or paywalls. People can cope about le covid and zelda as much as they like, but it all boils down to it simply being an enjoyable game.
>>741432504what bugs me is most characters have long hair or a cape or something to obscure their back and flutter as they run. really dumb
>>741432357>Cry, genshitter
>>741427110>>741427268wuwa really have some of the worst writing and story structures ever conceived. It fucking make those cartoons solely designed to sell toys seem far less cynical in slop
>>741432504>women are the majority of the player base>source: my delusions
>>741432504>women are the majority of the player baseyes, surely
>>741432763>meanwhile ZZZ...
seeing anybody use quality in the same sentence as genshit is sad
>all these wuwajeets flooding the threadYou know what's the funniest thing about the wuwa community? They spend 100% of their time seething about mihoyo. They don't talk about their game. They never say what they like. They always go on endlessly about Genshin or ZZZ. It will never stop being fucking hilarious.
>>741424924production quality ramps up with each new region the further from 1.0 you get, personally it was quite a noticeable improvement once you hit Sumeru and newer.enemy variety also greatly improves with each region and they occasionally add the new enemies into older regions if it makes sense (for example the electric scorpion bastard to one place in inazuma)i rather liked the story in Sumeru, Fontaine, and Nod Krai. Natlan is alright as well but felt a bit too Saturday morning cartoon but i still rate it highly.
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You know what's more hilariousZZZ never being a good game
>>741433095holy stretch
>>741432763Did you get to 2.5?I’d like to know what the Genshin equivalent to that is.
>>741432940Billy unto himself is a toy. His character motif IS referencing a toy franchise. He plays with toys in-setting. His personality is being fun, like a toy. He IS the toy-guy of ZZZ. Sounds like they nailed the assignment with a gold star to me.
>>741433078You know that behavior is endemic when other social media sites (leddit, twitter, even the chinese's own platforms etc...) constantly noticed this
Why gensharts copy everything?
>bubububububububut wuwon BAD!!
>>741433318now that's ironic
>>741419984COVID
>>741433318do you really have so little experience with human gestures? You act like those are supposed to be unique
I think Wuwa has surpassed Genshin. Their latest region and Edgerunners collab was peak. But honestly open world gacha is all a meme and very samey these days. Even NTE got boring very quickly.
>>741432357>shamelessly copy regional story beats, even character shilloettes in some regardsThat's just what chinese game devs do. Their entire industry is built upon copying someone else and hoping they get lucky. Anything that's not a genshin clone is a wuxia UE5 soulslike. Hell nearly all of genshin's event minigames are direct copies of other games like prop hunt, plants vs zombies, or puyo puyo. Modern chinese simply don't have the capacity to create original things anymore.
>>741431636I just want to do completely wholesome and heterosexual bro cuddling with him.
>>741422106There are a ton of games that get a huge investment and fucking die.
>>741427372That's the easiest way to keep up. People speedrun fresh f2p accounts to 36* Abyss clears within days because you have such a massive amount of primogems to collect when you haven't done anything.
>>741433078You know it is bad when their representative is Saintontas, who is a running joke even in the wuwa community.
>>741428617How odd... is that why every single WuWa content creator either relies entirely on making videos about shitting on Genshin to get views because when they try to make a video just about WuWa it doesn't get any attention? Or why WuWa threads here are kept alive by a single tripfag tranny who spends entire threads replying to himself day after day?
>>741419984it's good
>>741428617>LOOK WHAT MY E-CELEB SAID! HAHA OWNEDwuwajeets are not sending their best
>>741424440>Was there a single month where wuwa actually beat genshinno
>>741419984which gacha, out of all of them has the hottest girls, i like browndust2 but its almost porn so im not sure if its subtle enough
>>741434323>>741403579
>>741433078>>741434008>Carthago delenda est>Cato the Elder famously ended every single speech he gave in the Roman Senate with this phrase—even if the topic had absolutely nothing to do with foreign policy or Carthage
>>741430182every single wuwa attack string is just random spinning and visual vomit
>>741434785Because it's the digital equivalent of jingling keys for lowest common denominator retards. Why spend time making animations with a sense of weight when you can just have random flailing where every individual slash causes five different numbers to pop up?
>>741434785>>741434947It's KMMO shit.I tried that game forever ago, and if it weren't for the undiluted Chinese cultural lessons that get blasted down your throat instantly, I'd bet my left nut it was made by a Korean company. It just screams Korean sensibilities, the floaty movement, schizo attack strings, the MC being the super power god of the universe that collects a harem etc.
>>741434785they fell into the same problem FFXIV did
>stinko buff soon
>>741422075>This is always overlookedBecause it isn't true.
>>741435226I DON'T HAVE YAE AIEEEEEEEEEE
>>741435226>hfw i smear fried tofu on my dick
>>741424924enjoy
>>741435331>smear fried tofu on my dickYOWCH
>>741435365is... is that npc... talking?AAAH SAVE ME FROM READING IT! I'M GOING INSANE!
>>741435320>he didn't pull the foxngmi
>wujeet in a genshin thread spamming shit about beating the retarded little 3rd brother ZZZ
>>741435672NTA but the buffs feel like a bit of a bait considering we are getting a specific banner for them alongside said buffs.especially when we dont know what brand new units are going to be that will almost certainly powercreep a 4 year old unit.
>buffing old characters for people that have them while giving a chance for everyone else to get them is bad actually
>>741436253
>>741435672Bro your Ei?
>>741419984>What made Genshin skyrocket compared to other Gachashit?
>>741436526I do not pull for evil women
>>741435365Kino wordslop, I love radish soup!!
>>741437331>this is evil
>>741437331I do
>>741436253I'm still mad we don't get free simple costume changes
>>741438368why is she so BEAUTIFUL and POWERFUL?
>>741438527Schizophrenia is now an actual stat in Genshin's magic systemSee: Nicole
Belobog bros, we going home...
>>741438673Imagine being chosen by Dendro magic. You canonically develop autism when Dendro becomes your element. Its like HSR with Erudation forcing its pathwalkers into the 'tisms too. The Hoyoverse is so funny sometimes
>>741438945is that a mythology name or something? why did they use it both in hsr and zzz
>>741441887>did not play BloodShame on you.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobog_and_Belobog
>>741421520ToT
>>741441994>slavicit might actually get referenced in snezhnaya then
>>741433692WoW didn't invent man sitting on a throne with a swordIn fact WoW stole everything from Tolkien
Now the open world ARPGs are entering their urban fantasy arc, with the likes of Neverness to Everness, Ananta, and Silver Palace.
>>741442587i would've continued playing NTE if the combat wasn't so dullhope ananta will do betteridk what's silver palace
>>741442772>NTE combatI think it's a neat compromise between genshin and wuwa but yeah, it's pretty much more of the same
>>741442587>Neverness to Everness, Ananta, and Silver PalaceAlso Wang Yue and Varsapura. It's going to be a bloodbath. Genshin only had 2 real clones, wuwa and ToF, NTE is going up against 4
>>741442772Urban fantasy open world ARPG with a Victorian aesthetic.
>>741442772Combat gets better as you get more characters in these games. Endfield combat sucked in 1.0 but by 1.2 it was pretty neat. I'm sure once we have full limited 5 star teams in NTE it will be more fun
>>741442857>Wang Yueoh jesus I haven't even heard of that one yet kek
>>741419984It's funny how other gachashit players are still seething about this game after all these years
>>741433692that's just Conan on his throne, retard
>>741419984pretty graphics(for the time)
>>741421214Nintendo does not own generic forests and gliders.
>>741420593>wuwajeet immediately enters the thread to chimp out
TO THE MOOOOOOOON
These niggas were kinda cute, this patch redeemed all of Sumeru for me
>>741444452These niggas I mean
>>741419984Venti
>>741444514gave the community a new meme they will parrot throughout the year unfortunately
>>741444834Klee and Mona. 1.0 lineup had an iconic character for all three gacha audiences - homos, normal people and pedophiles
>>741424440since 2.0 droppedif you're talking about the fake numbers made by hoyoshills then there's obviously a bias
>>741419984Genshin ccp shill threadNever forget amphorous and all the chinawank in the writing and all the homo flop analworms shilling
It was a free2play "open world" phone game during covid so it had a really big potential install base.right place, right time. Hoyo themselves are greedy and constantly fucking up their games. doesn't matter, they have another 5 being cooked up right now!
>>741445290Why was Mona so popular? I start playing later and it felt weird how even people that didn't play the game knew her.
>>741420028>Covid>First big 3d open world gacha so no competitionThis
>>741419984Every other gacha I've tried has been complete slop garbage, it was the only one that felt like a proper game when I tried it. I still got tired of it because of gacha mechanics but I still played quite a lot. It was fun to explore, combat was simple but fun, nice looking game, great music.
>>741420593Wuwa fans really have an inferiority complex lol
>>741447891>Why was Mona so popular?
>>741448269she's a stick in game thoughjean ass mogs her
>>741448163same, but for genshin
What's the gameplay like? Most gacha games have shit gameplay.
>>741448506the gameplay is better than western games since most western games have shit gameplay.
>>741448337Looks good enough
>>741448774A lot of words just to say nothing.
>>741448774you control a team of 4 characters each with their own skills and elements which can be combined for extra damage or effects
>>741449071you get the reply you deserve.
>>741448337>jean ass mogs herit's a nice one!
>>741419984Being an actual game instead of a png collector helped.
>>741448163True they never shut the fuck up about Hoyo games (especially ZZZ) and then they start crying. Literally all they do is wahhhh why am I so hated wahhhh. I know more about WuWa than the average WuWa player despite never playing it because those fuckers spam every single ZZZ forum/thread.
>>741436509Probably the truest take about this whole shit. GI and ZZZ are just chill with each other while HSR hated GI so hard they're teaming up with Wuwa in return for also trashing on ZZZ so they can both hate on GI.
>>741419984Back in the day it was really popular due to being a free to play breath of the wild alternative. I feel like now a days it's popularity has dropped off a cliff. There used to be advertisements for this game everywhere. Now I feel like no one gives a shit about it outside of China.
>>741424924>All that matters is story and boss fights.The bad news is that you're about to pass through into one of the most boring slogfests in in your life.The good news is that if you manage to survive that, you'll enter one of the most glorious absolute kinography the world has ever seen.
>>741435365
>>741427372You don't. The game is more pay to win than it's ever been.
>>741454781you only got the story line right
>>741454781>>741456053>Shitstain's story >good
>>741454276>I feel like now a days it's popularity has dropped off a cliffThe game gets more new downloads per month than most other new mobile games at launch. Shit is still popular.
>>741449395don't forget the resident alchemist in training
Wuwa can't compete with Genshin because it doesn't yet have its own Nahida, Furina or Don Sombrero. Characters who inspire fanaticism to the point where they throw extravagant, expensive birthday parties for a fucking fictional character. And now we have Sandrone, who may very well get the same treatment. This sort of extreme fanatic affection for these fictional characters is probably the greatest, most valuable boon that the game has.
I want to FUCK Yaoyao!
>>741456739That's because Genshin's characters are likeable and aren't just one notes that release one patch and are never seen again.
>>741454781>>741424924Genshin's Archon Quest (the main storyline) gets better over time, in depth of content and presentation department.The latest story isn't my favorite but I agree that it is a steady improvement.But that doesn't really make it better than other gachas, I think what really makes Genshin stand out in the story department is the worldbuilding. The world has very large amounts of lore dumped into it, spanning large amounts of generations, making the world feel alive and have actual history. Part of the reason the newer archon quests are an improvement is because they're starting to tap on all of that lore from years back rather than keeping it hidden. It's also why world quests (large optional sidequests) tend to be much better than archon quests since they have no limitations.HSR can't do it because each world is disconnected, it's merely sitting on the built up story from HI3rd. ZZZ could do it but is treading more towards HSR's storytelling. I don't think they'll ever pull off a Genshin again, even when "Genshin 2" eventually comes.
>>741444452>>741444514
>>741457535>the swolest demon gods so far>still inferior to Zhongli, Ei and Mavuika.
>>741445290monapedos, we're being called out...
>>741446272>"open world" it is a massive open world game though
>>741457587Say that to my face motherfucker not online
>>741457535>>741444514seeing them just made me disappointed in how they made moon carver and mountain shaper
>>741420028>Covid>First big 3d open world gacha so no competitionplus fate artists quickly move to genshin impact which the twitter's algorithm picked up
>>741457654Bet you 500k mora that Deshret was a twig.
>>741454781I like how you can tell the exact point when the prison arc happened and somehow it's still better than shitzuma lol
>>741457664they're saving them for a future lantern rite
>>741448506
>>741457457WuWa's big patch plot resolution was no different from a weekly shonen manga, kinda like Tanjiro's "Oh my father flashback suddenly giving me sun breath". Meanwhile Genshin to kill the big bad had to dive deep into years of lore for the characters to find a solution to the villain. Of course it wasn't perfect, there was still a lot riding on technobabble, but it did a much better job keeping the suspense of disbelief in place for me.Just a result of writing as you go patch by patch. WuWa did hire that famous writer as a world consultant, we'll see if things improve, but honestly what they need is to give writers time, this consultant won't help with that.
>>741457664Moon Carver and Mountain Shaper took on disguises to blend in with humans.
>>741457936Now do Nod Krai.
>>741457936isn't the summer resort better?
>>741448337>>741447891>she's a stick in game though
>>741457535Naturally.
>>741420593There’s no such thing as “investing back into” these games, Genshin, Wuwa and NTE along with other open world games are the most expensive gachas to maintain due to their open worlds. It’s to a more significant degree than you think as well, the devs with their time can choose to add what they want to the game. These open world games are not gonna spend half a billion dollars upgrading their engines and overhauling everything when they’re already expensive as fuckAlso Kuro IS working on a new game but it isn’t gacha, it’s an MMO
>>741435365I thought Golden Sun was a wordy-as-fuck game until I played Genshit...
>>741458181Wait until you play Arknights.
>>741458181>>741458231HSR, Arknights and FGO are probably the most wordy gacha games but HSR at least could easily reduce that volume by 1/3 by toning down the damn purple prose
>>741458231>>741458294At least the original Arknights wasn't pretending to be a game like Genshin...
>kneeling to twitterfagsno thanks
>>741458294>but HSR at least could easily reduce that volume by 1/3 by toning down the damn purple proseHSR doesn't have a Paimon, how did it outword Genshin?
>>741421214Imagine if Nintendo had tried to capitalize on the success of Breath of the Wild instead of spending 6 years to release it again with Garry's Mod.
>>741458089Me in the back
>>741458053It's just an old clip.
>>741457535hoyo needs to return to its roots and get rid of the the femoids and fag tourists like you
>>741458559what?
At the end of the day, better gameplay and graphics on their own can't guarantee success. No, what you REALLY need to do is somehow convince people to fall in love with your 2D waifus. Like totally head over heels.
>>741445291LOL wuwa saars always coping.
>Genshin thread up>wuwatards immediately invade to shill their slopEvery single time.I actually listened to you gaslighting retards and tried twice to get in to the game, but outside of being more technically impressive in the graphics department, it really has nothing going for it.Worse character designs, worse visual design in general, worse areas, worse writing, exploration made easier but boring.So focused on making the combat flashy for all these stupid clips that you like to spread on social media that they forgot to make it actually fun, as it just feels floaty and completely detached, like you're just mashing buttons to watch pretty cinematics play out that covers most of the area so you don't even need to worry about targeting the enemies.After all that shit and trying their hardest to be the Genshin killer the least they could have done is be less jewish and stingy towards players and give them more than Hoyo, but nope. Absolutely no reason to play it over Genshin, and there's little reason to play Genshin either.
>>741459659Wuwajeets insecurity over hoyo games is so fucking incredible.
>>741459659I loved the whole Rinascita arc but the game has lost me since then. Lahai Roi is shit and the upcoming characters don't interest me with the exception of this mythical beauty. So I'm just gonna save up and then... wait I guess.
>>741428987>motion captureSo its not even anime at that point
>>741419984>free open world game >with a lot of chances to do co-op shenanigans actually, this is still one of its major defining features since all of its competition insists on being single player bores>had the best launch window of all time, literally no other game besides Pokemon GO could compete too bad the 'tards running Pokemon GO shit the bed and launched with nothing to do and literally none of the features they showed in trailers until years laterIt really is that shrimple. I couldn't tell you anything that's going on in the game past Venty and riding his dragon at some point, but I assume the gacha aspect has people by the balls to this day.
>>741459659same but for every gacha that genshitters mocked when they first came outgenshin has nothing going for it other than lame graphics so now that wuwa raped them in that department genshin is no longer a game as per hoyoshill's rules. genshit has worse characters, worse exploration, no skip button, sleep inducing story, worse and useless MC, worse gacha, worse collab, and worse fanbase. Eat shit lmao
>>741460140>indog got mad at valid criticism>his retort is just "no u"They really aren't sending their best, huh?
>>741460056>with a lot of chances to do co-op shenanigans
>>741459641love it when you had to merge the fake CN and global numbers because nikke and wuwa got ahead for two months, really proves the point
>>741460363>indog got mad at valid criticism>his retort is just "no u"where's the skip button on this quest
>>741459659All wuwa has to do is add actual lolis for me to give a shit about it. Simple as.
>>741460429Diluc...
>>741443161>Urban fantasy open world ARPG>Also jumping on the Palworld creature collector train>China only, despite being worked on for yearsOh brother.
>>741460056>with a lot of chances to do co-op shenanigans actually, this is still one of its major defining featuresWhy would you make shit the fuck up so brazenly when it is known its false tho? Why act like no one has played the game?
remember when they nerfed hiders because most people sucked at being seekers
>>741460682At least that wasn't the fault of Diluc players being retarded for once.
>>741460821bring back the OG theatre mechanicus
sunked cost fallacygenshit hasn't been good for years
>>741460443>retardAnon just about every chart has merged numbers. Your only argument could be "well it's not really popular in China but it's massively popular in the West!" which is the opposite of reality; nobody fucking talks about WuWa in the West. See >>741434008
>>741460776Would you mind pointing to a gacha that lets you do half of the co-op stuff that Genshin doesOr rather, any free game that even a cheap phone can run
>>741442857Never mind that Zenless Zone Zero is already the de facto "urban fantasy gacha" game of the current age, though it's not an open world game.
>>741460682
>>741461070As funny as this is it's genuinely fucking retarded how environmental effects have essentially infinite elemental application. It's literally impossible to get out of this situation.
>>741460961Genshin just peaked with Nod Krai though
>>741461070I really hate how freeing yourself is jump. I am 100% guaranteed to jump immediately after breaking free which just fucks shit up even worse
>>741430182wushit animations just spam particles and effects fast, but dont give time to enjoy what the artist wants you to see. and have they even got rid of waste of time long ass rotations on supports just to trigger outro buffs?
>>741461070Old Genshin Abyss is just built different
>>741460973the numbers were always fake and it also happens to be your only argument. You won't address any argument and force yourself to say that not having a skip button is a good thing. Also, content creators are making an honest comparison unlike the average hoyoshill
>>741461379they're designed that way because elemental reaction garbage doesn't exist in wuwa so your carry can stay on field indefinitely. Also because wuwa is the better game
Just admit you're too retarded to understand Genshin's gauge unit theory.
>>741461392noobs will never understand the old floor debuffs in the abyss and domains
>>741457936Is universal flight a thing, or is it character exclusive? That region looks like hell to explore if it's the latter.
>>741460974You are a subhuman retard
>>741427708https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy_MyCbpDiQ&list=PLTmJuovQUxPuSYfrtCgpsLwQOeRXSkFzp
>>741461517lol, wujeet was shit. played till half way through rinascita. combat kept getting more floaty and uninteresting after the initial appeal wore off. all the autistic dual swap teams are unnecessary. cleared all the hardest content, got all the rewards just doing basic rotation swapping. no elemental reactions in wuwa is fucking retarded. what is even the point of elements, just to make you roll chars to cover all the elemental weaknesses. you praising this shit shows how low iq monkey nigger you are.
>>741461832I suppose wanting a free and easy way to play a co-op game with the bros does make me a subhuman retard, yes.
>>741461791that's a character thing. the bar next to the character is energy from their skill. there's a horizontal bar on the bottom that's a regional thing that gives that character extra energy
>>741461832noticed you didn't answer them and instead resorted to name calling
>>741461791also without any of the regional characters that have those movement skills you can basically transform into the local animals to fly/climb/swim
>>741461791Traversal in general is character-specific but in every region after the original two they have systems in place to make traversing easier. In that area for example there are birds you can indwell and control them to fly around. It's not as fast but it serves its purpose of giving you flight.
Why would anyone play this garbage when you could be playing Wuthering Waves?
>>741461883
>>741462049see >>741460664
>>741419984>good open world>good cute girls>decent gameplay>4 niggas in a row
>>741461886same, but for genjeet. Why did you need to catch flies for excess stamina? Burst swapping is the most boring way to play a videogame and it was clearly designed for mobile players. Boring ass story can't even be skipped so the game can't be saved. Beat endgame with chinese wank 4* team so there's no challenge. Elemental reactions just baits you into rolling the gacha to make teams and tying exploration skills to characters is extremely stupid and player unfriendly. you praising this shit shows how low iq monkey nigger you are.
>>741462271They already have lolis thoNow give an actual reason without being blinded by hoyodrones
>>741463046Those are not lolis, those are hebes
>>741463080SureEnjoy your "lolis" in granny panties then
>>741463431At least my lolis don't have hag tits like wuwa "lolis"
SANDRONE HYPE
>your game sucks and no one plays it anymore>my game is much better and is more popularwhy are you in here again?
>>741463591>>your game sucks and no one plays it anymore>>my game is much better and is more popularI wasn't even lying
>>741463591Because it's literally all they have.
>>741463702oh ii remember that, there was blatant botting if i recall.did it at least win something that couldn't be botted?
>>741464413do they really need botting when it seems obvious the game awards are paid for like walk of fame stars
even botting didn't help the zzz revenue because the whole game is pandered towards brown people
Why didn't more gachas make their MCs sissy midgets after Aether's huge success?
>>741464657it was the viewer submission part, instead of just buying an award they botted the shit out of it.
>>741464781>huge successSomething like 80% of all Genshin players picked Lumine.
>>741464708Grand award for zzz.Lesser award for wuwa.
>>741464828why pay for bots when you could have the pollsters rig it
>>741464413the ironygood thing wuwa has actual fans and players
>>741465256>>741465249there are retards in both groups, neither game deserved it.
>>741465256>good thing wuwa has actual fans and playersIt does. Just not in the West.
>>741461379>wushit animations just spam particles and effects fastThis complaint is so fascinating to me, because you cannot play Genshin and call out other games for particle spam.
>>741427708Evil doesn't exist in China.
>>741465634the fuck even is that team? i guess it would be particle spam if you did that but you don't play those characters that way typically.
watching gachafags fight amongst eachother about who's skinnerbox is better is more fun than playing the games themselves
>>741465913pretty sure it is a sport some of them enjoy, talk about any gatcha game and wuwafags come out of the woodwork.
>>741465634>cherry picks a reaction vomit team that isn't practically used outside of the old Razor team which isn't even used anymore because his damage is actually viable nowWuWafags are literally incapable of engaging in a discussion honestly.
>>741465824I ran that but with thoma instead of dehya
>>741466149i guess you could, i remember running a hyperbloom team with Sayu on-field with Barbara, Kuki Shinobu, and Nahida before, it worked but was certainly not ideal.the whole point of that team was the movement boost Sayu provided while auto-infusing to hydro with barbara's skill ring then you just crash into things while hyperbloom happens on its own.either way that is easily the most cherrypicked team you could possibly do.
>>741466146same, but for genshin
>people still play genshit when Wuwa existsWuwa already completely mogged genshin on every metric
>>741466146What a weird hill to die on. Literally every action gacha vomits out particle effects.
>>741465913>wow i'm so smart watching people argue about something no one is talking aboutshut up retard
>>741466601
Popular content creators like Asmongold, Tectone, and TenZ plays WuwaName one popular cc that actually plays genshit or any mihomo games
>>741466614>retard continues to be dishonestYour next move will be to post another low bitrate video.
>>741466721anyone who streams with a face cam is gay and anyone who watches them is retarded
>>741466769and your next move will be to act smug when you posted no rebuttal
>>741466769What exactly is dishonest? I am simply providing examples of a Genshin being a particle ridden mess of a game too. And the bitrate is low because of all the particle effects, you simpleton.
>>741466839>streams with a face cam>https://streamable.com/li4ufathoughts?
>>741466974Hoyodrones are pathetic people and it's mainly the reason why it's always amusing to mock their whole fanatic community
>>7414670473 seconds in sounds gayalso chat on screen is dumb
>he’s shilling ecelebs now
>>741463587>remove her robot>give her the transsexual's kitHow the fuck are you hyped?
>>741442772>idk what's silver palacehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIUa74hDJiQ
>>741467042>WuWafag triples down on being a dishonest retardThe low bitrate is because you're posting oversized or excessively long videos on a board where file sizes are restricted to 4MB. Behold: The exact same team(which isn't even good which is how you know it's dishonest bullshit) but without intentionally nuking the bitrate like a dishonest retard. You may proceed with your dishonest response.
>unreadable particle vomit!Let's see if I'm a psychic.
>>741467948>post something that proves him rightGensharts everyone
>>741467995>>741468007Read like a fucking book.
>>741467948you lost the moment you tried to convince yourself that meager and lazy skill effects were a good thing
>>741468137>uh oh he proved it wrong>time to 180!Concession accepted.
>>741468190>proved it wrongwhere? i bet the next thing being posted is a genshit character standing still
The 'cord convenes to discuss their next tactic.
It ripped off an amazing game
ignore the arguinglook at my fish
>>741468725THAT'S A LOT OF FISH!
>>741468725Congrats on catching up to what I already got years ago I guess?
>>741469512bootyblasted hoyokek into the atmosphere
>>741467948>cut out all the EQ setup>"Behold"Holy fuck, seems like you were just projecting your dishonesty the entire time.
>>741469432that crab is patheticI bet you don't even have 9999 roe either
I expected something a bit more substantial than "n-n-no you have to tank the bitrate by including burst animations that's a core part of the dishonesty!" after waiting 40 minutes but that's my fault for giving the benefit of the doubt to WuWafags.
>>741469823My crab is not maxed because I'm working on the roe. I'll get there when I get there, only about 500 roe to go, no rush.Shame me for giving up on mass collecting my favorite characters' specialties instead.
>>741427895You know we were there, right? Why bother to lie?
>>741470036I don't mass food because it just seems like a waste. I'll shame you for not having max rye and rye flour though =pI am kinda mad I didn't realize I could have been buying 10 eel meat daily all this time so that's the major one I'm lacking in. When I get marquettes and silk flowers maxxed I'll have to figure out what to move on to next that'll knock something off of my daily shopping
>>741470107>retardBarely anybody knew about Genshin prior to its launch. Go ahead and look at Google search trends when it released. There's basically fucking nothing prior to launch day then there's a massive spike.
The exploration and dialogue are a lot better than most other gacha already. The combat though is just stuck in 2020. No lock on, backstep, combo input is long, character switching has too much delay. They should have fixed this up years ago. Combat is still cute though so it gets a slight pass. I know women love the simplicity.
>>741470314>No lock on>women love the simplicityI love it when retards expose themselves without realizing it. Imagine being such a shitter that you get filtered without a lock-on crutch.
>>741421214It was fucking Ubislop with cartoon graphics.All it presented was "what if we made anime Ubislop?", and the one Chinese developer that was already pushing 3D on mobile started cooking.Contrary to rest of this thread, COVID only meant the rest of the Chinese took two extra years to start spamming THEIR anime Ubislop.
>>741470202>I'll shame you for not having max rye and rye flour though =pMeh, my mind became broken when I saw how many midsommar berries I needed to collect for a 3 star specialty dish that I just stopped bothering with the other processables. Rye is only grabbed weekly when I'm on the way to the shop above for the weekly meat+roe there.The eel was only convenient since it wasn't too hard to stop at Watatsumi Island, Enkanomiya, and the desert regularly, but I decided to cut those out because no one I care about uses that ingredient in their dishes and teleporting is still a pain even if it's easy.Nowadays, if the ingredients aren't needed for a favorite character's dish, I just bother with the 3x days and weekly shops. I can't be bothered with dailies anymore.
>>741470485ah. since I didn't do cooked food stuff I've gotten rid of almost all the daily shops since I have the items maxed. I think the eel guy is the only one now that I think about it. then I go to varanara and vanessa's farm. it all started with wanting to max the processed stuff too. I was so happy getting them to 2000 then a couple months later the patch upping them to 9999 hit.windrest flowers and berryshrooms are my long ones that I won't have maxed until 2029
>>741470384I’m just saying it after a few years of playing gacha and dropping Genshin in 2022. If it gets better and the later characters offer more toolkits and whatnot, sure. Every 1.0 of a game is slow.
only inferiors make comparisonsuccessful businesses do not cry on social media about MY SHOP IS BETTER THAN THEIRSfor all the shit talk, wukeks anniversary can't even compare to the sales of "lol brick nicole nothingburger update" patch of genshin they accused of it being, what does that say about them?>b-but fake sales numberuntil you won against something then it's suddenly valid right? look at endfield, when they slapped you with 21m you cried about it being fake chart, then gloat about it the moment endfield dropped because it's rerun updatepathetic
>>741471439>platitudes when the genshit accusers are also guilty of comparisons>muh fake revenue matterslmao, genshin is shit and deserves all the hate it gets. There's nothing you can do about it because their moronic playerbase started it
>>741471716started what? you can go to any generals and you will find WUWON spamfunnily enough the scat spam never happened in wuwa generals, just sayingthese "people" are on payroll to smear anything not tencent, who are still upset that hoyo refused to sell out to them during genshin funding
>>741471716>their moronic playerbase started itWanna have a contest? Find me as many Genshin content creators as you can who shit on WuWa for content and I'll find as many WuWa creators as I can who shit on Genshin for content. Up for it?
>>741424737I half wonder if this was implemented just to give the wonderworld shit some new mechanics to implement. Why else in the world would they make a gimmick section of a Gears of War meets Vanquish? Because fans really loved that summer gunner Lumine design?
>>741471905how about you find every social media post that shits on every gacha because genshin exists? i'll wait
Well that was a quick retreat.
>>741472003>C make a statement that B could be better because A existed>this must have been A's faultholy retard
>>741472101how many "chibishit" gacha posts have you found so far? get back to work. Graphics are what defines videogames after all so tell us why genshin doesnt deserve the hate
>>741471974since they like to do all sorts of mini game types maybe it's just another one to do. or maybe it's for another game they're working on. has there been an fps/tps gacha yet?
>>741472223>graphics are what defines video gamesholy shit, you're really exposing yourself, not gameplay? not story? not worldbuilding? not music? not game's mechanics? not character's lore and interaction? but gRaPHic? goddamn look at this wukek>how many "chibishit" have you foundyou just need to glance at BA's general direction
>>741472312I mean technically Duet Night Abyss in its home country versus overseas, maybe, but nothing truly dedicated, and DNA didn't do so hot as a Warframe wannabe.
>>741472398>DNA didn't do so hot as a Warframe wannabe.The devs dropped the ball and released the game too early which forced them into an impossible position because they couldn't pivot quickly enough.
>>741472357wuwa has genshin beat on all of those. Time to cycle back to the "minimal skill effects is good actually" or the classic "skip button isn't important"
>>741472398oh right I completely forgot about dna probably because I mostly used melee in it anyway
>>741472517beat with what metric? your opinion?Genshin has>won TGA best mobile game award>won TGA player's voice award <---- this is the shit wukeks had to pretend never happened>won both google play and app store best game of the year>won golden joystick, nominated for 4 years>won playstation grand excellence award>won equinox award twice, 3 years nomination>won new york game award>won japan game award>won game dev's choice award>nominated in TGA every year since the game was made in 4 categories total>8 nominations to BAFTA and NAVGTR award>not even every award listed yetmaybe wuwa should try winning the best mobile game at TGA before they talk about "had genshin beat"incoming >b-but those don't matter
>>741472861all those awards and they still don't have a skip button? I'm sure all those awards reward their players with something right? >inb4 game features dont matter
>moving the goalpostEasy concession!
>>741472983>already deflecting twiceI thought graphics is all that matter, why are you still hiding behind skip button feature and even free gibs after repeatedly getting wrecked
>>741421214>>741420028these two are the reason
It’s a shame how popular Genshin got, because everything following it has to copy it. Endfield for example, doesn’t need weapon types. In Genshin they serve a point in the open world. In Endfield, they’re there because they’re in Genshin. Wuwa’s like this too. The open world is there because Genshin.
>>741473292that may be the case but you need to consider too why it was popularit wasn't just covid, it was revolutionary for its time, when everyone was trying to have their own 2D FGO copy, hoyo experiemnted 3D ARPG with honkai and made it open world with genshinyou should still remember how hard GBF community foamed in its mouth over genshin having such freedom>lol open worldgenshin is open world, you can walk from mondstadt all the way to nodkrai, or shoot an arrow into the air and have it landed on something 2km awaythose "interact with X to enter Y area" is not open world, it's nothing more than segmented maps pretending to be open world
>>741473292Endfield was better in the beta but the devs listened to the vocal minority of tourists who were begging for it to be more like Genshin so it lost its original combat system for the Genshin-lite system it currently has which is shit.
I guess wujeets ran away, againprobably still upset rover had to sit on a cuck chair watching lucy and david together
Wuwa is literally better
>>741473694>>741473712Amusing same-time post.
>>741473442The irony of Endfield being ruined by people asking for Genshin
I bet the average spend for Sandrone would be way higher if she still had Pulonia instead of the knockoff policewoman mech.
It’s been really fun having to trek across the land to reach new main story missions. I get that Zelda pioneered it, but it’s stilll novel 10 years on.
>>741473104why did you deflect to past accolades that don't matter for the current game? easy concession
>>741419984first gacha to actually have gameplay
>>741474426gachas always had gameplay and graphics didn't matter
>>741474289The problem with Pulonia is it's impossible to use it in combat without turning it into a gun like the new robot and nobody wants to use Pulonia as a gun. Pulonia is a brawler.
>>741474497Couldn't they just have it so that Pulonia as a skill that she can swap into and has a moveset like Dehya ult? Give him infinite poise while Sandrone sits on his shoulder and does cryo lasers like a turret.I'm still coping over the fact she isn't physical support.
the jeet is still at itguess they're really upset about it
>>741474786It fucking baffles me that they literally gave you a cuck chair. Why would they do that?
>>741474786I AM THE KEK THAT IS APPORACHONG
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>>741470964>I was so happy getting them to 2000 then a couple months later the patch upping them to 9999 hit.That was such a huge middle finger by Hoyo. And I still continued collecting past 2000 anyways.
>>741473563I still want her kino catalyst