Who here is hyped for Endless Ragnarok?Game is out in a few weeks and there's hardly any discussion about it on /v/Hopes and expectations for the DLC?Are you sticking with your old character(s) or picking up a new main?
>>741427660There was a thread yesterday since they updated the demoI'm hoping more fights like Bahamut Versa, that was my peakhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwl2SfrCDkg
>>741427660Can I play it if I never played the gacha? Is the anime good?
>>741427660>hypedYes>hopesMore relink>mainI'm but a humble potato farmer, each potato needs to be carefully nourished no matter if new or old. If potato fails use Zeta
I see the demo is updated so ill give it a look
>fomo gamewhat is there to discuss? the game will be stone cold dead after 2-3 weeks. 0 players except in the final bosscompare that to MHW which still has activity at all levels 20 years later. this shit can't compare
>>741427660I like Relink but I don't really like Relink, you know what I'm saying? I did beat Luci, not omega though, so I did pretty much everything that there was to do in the game but at the same time I didn't like the game enough to spend a ton of hours farming for unique weapons or farming the alpha/beta/omega sigils. You will buy and play the DLC but I hope it doesn't have more boring shit to grind
>there is a third main boss they haven't revealed yetLET HER IN
>>741428270why would she be a boss tho, isn't she one of the good guys
>>741427821They gave a gindable harder version of the fight and removed the OST for no reason, aren't you happy?
>>741428270The third boss is pretty much guaranteed to be Versusia
>>741427660Yes to all the questions.
>>741428637>bubs is just destined to get a never ending assbeating by mom
>>741428080the demo is litteraly the beta + the first base relink quest
>>741428573iirc the song does play at the end of the fightI'm mad
>>741428656So smug.
>>741428656Why do you want to fuck a potato anon
>>741429268Well I have yet to try relink so
>Bubs was chosen over Belial because Lucilius is already the smart one and they wanted someone retarded with pure tard strengthA worthy foe for Charlotta and Bea
>>741427660I'm excited but its gonna flop hard I don't think i've seen them do a single ad for it I guess they're relying on word of mouth?
>>741427660>hypeYes>hopes and expectationsThat stuff is fun and the new mastery stuff smooths out some issues some characters have>sticking with main or trying othersI plan to try the other new characters (not big on Beatrix's kit) but something tells me I'm gonna wind up sticking with Vane and Percival.
How well does it run on average hardware?My setup is pretty beefy but I dont want to stress it with this fucking weather
>>741431757my old 1060 6gb/i5 7600k ran the game with textures at ultra and lighting and shadows (?) at standard with locked 60fps outside of the hub (the hub ran at like 30-40fps for whatever reason).
>>741431757Try the demo to check if your pc can run the game
>>741428098Easily fixed by having frens
Looking forward to it.Loves me some melee based co op action games from Japan.
Is Bea retarded?
>>741432587Yes
How good is the game if I only care about draph milk?
>>741433215Well the game has a grand total of ONE Draph so not very.
>>741433812Sorry narmaya, double shift in the milkers
>>741433215Just Naru-neechan holding it down so kinda grim if you aren't into her
>>741428656
>>741432587Bea is the reason why the gacha releases summer units in the winter
>>741433812there’s 4 doebeit
>>741427660Is Lilith playable? If not I dont care.
>>741433812It has a cute NPC draph
>>741434384I don't follow the Gacha, but who are the most popular girls in Granblue generally? I would assume Narmaya is pretty high.
Will the fencer lady stop being shit?
If anything, i'm more hyped about the online fix than the content, i forgot how fucking shit base relink matchmaking was after playing the demo
>>741435273Narmaya, Vikala, Zeta, Djeeta, Raziel, Wamdus, and Galleon
>>741427660Hopes: working creamapi
I main gran :)
>>741435372>Insulting katalina-sanCmon man
>>741435163I miss this artist
>>741428098The game has crossplay it will be fine
>>741435806Gran players I usually really good players most honest character in the game
>endless ragnarokis that a reference to how this shitty series won't die whilst they rape the corpse
>>741427660>no Monkey, Sara, Tigers, Yaia, Wam-channot me.
>>741435806You better go full cheerleader or you're getting blacklisted from my rooms for wasting everybodys time
>>741427660I played the demo's story mode last night, it was fun.>>741427886The game takes place WAY after what the anime covered. I'm sure the game will spoonfeed newbies whatever they need the understand the story so I wouldn't worry too much.
I think it's a bit neat. It reminds me of the fun I used to have in FFXIV, before they completely destroyed it. I like how the characters you play all feel somewhat unique. The music is nice.Having said that: I feel like it's a game you pretty much "need" to pump 100+ hours into, and I'm just not into those kinds of games nowadays.
>>741428335>isn't she one of the good guysshe's the one that protect the world balance so if there's something that's breaking it, she'll go on full destruction mode and erase it. but because of many plot devices she ignores the main crew despite Gran, Vyrn and Lyria being completely able to throw off the world balance.
>>741435273>who are the most popular girls in Granblue generallyall the ones that aren't in VS/Relink.
Another expansion or a second game
>>741435273No idea but Ferry is the best and cutest. Her chest, however, is humble, so I'm guessing that she's not too popular.
>>741438008I don't think they can keep building on progression endlessly so I'd probably say a sequel is more likely.
>>741435273From the 2026 famitsu survey and in order>Female: Vikala, Narmaya, Djeeta, Galleon, Zeta, Ilsa, Lyria, Nier, Wamdus, Haaselia>Male: Sandalphon, Siete/Seofon, Seox, Percival, Belial, Siegfried, Lancelot, Vane, Beelzebub, NehanOf note the difference in the female top 10 is a little over 100 votes from 1st to 10th(204 vs 88). meanwhile Sandalphon to Seofon/Siete is ~170 votes(45s vs 281). There's a hell of a lot more competition on the women's side and for some perspective Narmaya is the only character in the female top 10 who does not belong to any major faction and originally not a main crew member. Also should mention that a lot of the characters who have been around for a while still have a sizable fanbase like ferry, Vira, lecia and old man cag.
>>741428335she's a boss fight in her original game
>>741435273Cog-sama!
>>741434384what, qrd?
>>741439282Huh, Zeta's more popular than Bea? Thought they'd be close considering they're best friends or something.
>>741427660Any idea if people still mod the game and old mods will be updated?
So which of the new characters are you going to try out first?
>>741439682Probably Fraux. I'll probably end up maining Beatrix but Fraux does look fun and could win me over.
>>741439682new potato probably, then we'll see if the others have fun gimmicks, bea seems annoying as fuck to play from the demo.I assume they'll all get warpath type sigils that changes their playstyle tho
>>741439682Maggie and Fediel
Wait, can I not change the controls?
>>741433812There's like four, but only one is a girl.Razia fucking when?>>741439682Mag then Gallanza, followed by Fraux and Fidiel.Gallanza is the only one I think might mesh for me though.
>>741439682Probably eustace
>>741434587>>741435163>>741443912Only playable females count
Okay I tried the demo for a bit, fun game but not getting it without a sale, feels more like a tales game than monster hunterI also kinda sucked shit with most of the demo characters, rackam was probbaly my least shit, mostly because that shotgun blast rapes whatever it comes into contact withLancelot was fine too, though locking yourself in place feels pretty bad when shit jumps away from you
>>741446028So you are getting filtered by a super nerfed version of the beta fight
>>741446028it's definitely closer to monster hunter than tales of, unless you mean tales of arise in that case you're right but the game is definitely more based on monhan
>>741446230To be fair, I only fought a bunch of wolvesmy biggest issue by far is that whenever I attack, they dont flinch and jump away, meaning I have to go chase them aroundHavent tried the big fights yet, none of the characters so far just feel right to me, attacks feel like they have no impact and having 4 charcters jump about makes it a bit hard to tell what the fuck is happening
>>741446345I guess it feels more like arise because of the skill usageand the fact I have to unload 2 full shotgun blasts into a dog to put it down
Anyone wanna try carrying me through Zero? :)
>>741446415Play goza or zeta might be the right one for you
Does this have an open world or is it all instanced boss fights
>>741446415most characters have a gap closer, either as a skill or a combo.
>>741447336Hub based game
>>741447674I did notice, I guess itll be less of an issue against bosses rather than 30 wolvesIs there some kind of training area I can test characters in?field testing against the wolves isnt really that helpful
>>741447185What platform
>>741447768unfortunately, the only training area is available in the full game. otherwise you'll be better off testing against something like the blizzdile, since it doesn't have any summons like the skeleton and isn't as aggressive as the ruby golem.
>>741448021Ruby got massively nerfed he should be fine
>>741448246feels the same as the other betas
is the story mode stuff co-op too or just missions?
>>741427660Demo was pretty fun. Beatrice is wacky
>>741451541the spin a wheel for buffs is a bit weird, same with having to hold it down to go into the special modeI feel like shes too weak honestly
>>741451640During the 4th quest, I just took 3 other wind dudes and let the cpu carry me while I pretended to do things.
>>741451541Clock slop
>>741427660no chococatsno buy
>>741451640>>741451714if anything, i'm more annoyed at the fact that dodging doesn't keep the power finish even if you didn't start it, if you dodge during your combo finisher it straight up resets, no power finish at all.All the other characters can, why not her
>>741451901Too galge for this game
>>741451901nemonemonemonemonemonemonemone
I know there is a scythe guyone a scale of 1 to THE DEMON INSIDE ME, how edge is he?
>>741439682since Fraux and Fediel are apparently locked behind beating ERs story, Gallanza and Eustace
Love these master traits
>>741452828wait that's actually broken if you can spam the laser, that skill's damage is broken
Sell me on this game
>>741446028A mix of skill issue and mastery stuff. A smidge of what skills they have access to too.Masteries tweak characters a lot, their unique sigils too, but a lot of them have bits of nuance that you probably didn't get with a small sample playtime and the missing skills can be what helps them click.That said, it's also missing an armload of characters too.>>741452486>how edge is heYes.>>741452828Is there more info on what other characters get yet?
>>741453340fun anime bullshit: the gameturns into monster hunter once you beat the main story (fairly short)lots of soul, lots of characters (fairly simple movesets but some are more complex)really fucking pretty to look atlots of hype setpiece bosses
>>741427660>Game is out in a few weeks and there's hardly any discussion about it on /v/People make threads once in a while and they refuse to put the game on sale
>>741453878The game been on sale multiple times for 20$
>>741453549Here are a few
>>741453951They haven't put it on sale since winter despite them releasing a dlc soon.
>>741448246ruby has less hp and attack, but it's still aggressive. I was mentioning blizzdile as a makeshift training ground since one isn't available. I'm sure they can beat golem just fine (after a few quest failures)
>>741428098You are a retarded tranny
>>741453340Go play the demo
>>741427660That will depend entirely on the game having a story this time around. I don´t care for JRPGs that don´t have a good plot.>INB4 then you don´t care about JRPGsDon´t act coy.
>>741431476Yeah as hard as the main g->115k playersoh
Everyone says the story sucks, is short, and a waste of time.If they are a gacha that didn't die shouldn't they have had a good part to use?
Chances of one last character? Other than the possible DLCs
>>741454557You should really kill yourself ASAP
What would you want in a sequel?For me it's:> Lean more into the JRPG elements. More stuff like the opening parts of the game (or the story part in the demo)> Ability to fly the airship from island to island, choosing your path on where you want to go> Quests to unlock characters rather than crewmate cards> More involved fate stories rather than text on an image> More skills per character
>>741454754Yaia as a hidden unlock
>>741454825I would want them to do nothing from your fucking dogshit list
Is it really worth $30? I enjoyed relink when it came out but I really don't want to start grinding in it again years later.
>>741427886How come they won't make a offline version already? It's 84 years old
>>741454942who shit in your cheerios anon?
>>741454825Co-op MSQ.
>>741427660I tried the demo, why is combat so spammy? They just throw hordes of enemies at youI thought it'd be more like Dragon's Dogma
>>741455012You by trying to ruin good gamesGo play God of Woman: Laundry
>>741452828>>741454080Any leaks about Charlotta's?
>>741452828I cum
>>741455091>why is this game more like [Game]? Why isn't like [Other game]?
>>741454975With the stuff they added for sure for me at least
>>741455130None that I have seen
This potato is the only thing I care about in the expansion but I'm not paying $30 for another terrible endgame experience.
>>741455652ojoutato
>>741439682The martial arts girl which fights like a bayonetta expy.
Last thread said the red golem got nerfed, were there patch notes??
>>741455652do it for her
>>741456682only new harvin is Maglielle sadly
>>741456596
>>741456596patches notes coming in 2 weeks
>aya hirano x3 screeching in my earsi am cumforgive me bassist, my dick has won
>>741427660>Are you sticking with your old character(s) or picking up a new main?Unless one of the new characters is Zooey i will stick with Io-chan
>>741456961oh its on their twitter for some reason, thanks
>>741427660Never heard of it. Big booba dragon lady on the left looks nice though.
>>741457845missing another one
Should I buy now the game or wait until the expansion is out? They said they were doing some QoL changes
I haven't played the beta/demo for the expansion, is there any indication what kind of power level will be appropriate going in?Will my fully decked out endgame weapons and seals just massacre the new story and make it not fun? I want to try and equip at least a character to the point where going through the new fights is a decent challenge
>>741456961what characters are playable in the demo?
>>741459351you can't even start the DLC until you've beaten proto bahamutthey did say they were trying to balance shit better rather than just reactionary stuff, and that they were aware there'd be lots of people who had done full luci runs
>>741427660Why is everyone hyping this shit? Its literally just a DLC. ITS NOT A NEW GAME
>>741454573People wanted an action adventure game where you explore islands and the world like the Mana series. We got a glorified Monster Hunter with a shitty hub world and grindy missions for brain rotted phone fags instead
>>741459429
>>741427660is Beato fun?
>>741460451She's ok, we don't really have access to her full kits so it's hard to tellStill going to main naru
>>741460451some people swear by her
>>741459637Stop crying
>>741455130Here
>>741459310Its 2 weeks away so just wait
>>741462032Got the whole masteries list so just tell me who you want to see
>>741462263nta but do you have Katalinas
>>741462263is this on a google doc on the discord or is this just your own collection?
>>741462560Yes have everyone
>>741460451clockslop
>>741462869from a korean site https://m.gamechosun.co.kr/news/view.php?no=222869
Are they going to rebalance/fix the dog shit damage calculation thing? Where all the stats are basically useless because the only thing that helps is damage cap up (which in itself has a cap)?
I downloaded the demo and have yet to play it yet, my girlfriend played it, its a gacha right? Im iffy
>>741464625Yes they said something about fixing it
>>741464670No
I am super hyped.The character masteries got shown, but its all in koreanSomehow only 1 person who got to play hands on, a korean, made a video about the mastery traits.He posted them on his website, but its in korean.Google translate is good enough to get the gist of what he is saying.Unfortunately, where some have cool traits that change their shit up, my main, percy just is more damage to schlatt. Everything else is useless.Site herehttps://m.gamechosun.co.kr/news/view.php?no=222869
>>741439682I am not even gonna bother, gonna just do everything with my main, percy. Then I will start playing with other characters when I hit end game.First I will try though is maggy.Gonna have to fully level up a 4 AI squad first.
>>741459351From what i can tell:You actually start ER story from the get go with a battle against the 2 eternals. Only after you have completed the base game and done bhamut...so dont actually need to do luci etc but the pwr is 23000 so you actually do need fully awakened terminus ,echo and luci sigils to compete.Then you do a single player quest where if forces you to play as the captain and base grandcypher characters.Then from that its just quests like the base game with increasing pwr. You get drops for transcending the base game weapons, which means eventually we can dump terminus. Drops summon sigils etc too and that is the pwr creep.It mentions there are new sigils and then it mentions there are 3 tiers to chaos.Which I think that means we will be repeating the ER quests over and over with more pwr, so damage, health and mechanics from the bosses.More importantly devs have said ER story is tied to the quests rather than a separate thing like the base game story and there are no super hard lucilius type bosses until post story.
>>741464625Well they have said buffs go beyond caps now so are actually useful as well as we can see that we are increasing caps.We are getting at least a 40%+ cap increase for every character then individual characters have at least a 20%-40% cap on their masteries.I think buffs stack too so if we are all rolling atk buffs and that goes over caps we will be nuking shit much faster.
>>741465874im happy about gran having a reason to use substitute
>>741465874This looks cool but it's been so long since I've played this game that I don't fucking remember what anyone does or how this game even plays and so this means nothing to me. I really need to jump in a bit and play before the expansion drops for a refresher course.
they might have overcorrected with Rosetta masteries
It will be funny if Bubs jobs again to whoever the third big boss is.
>>741454825Unironically I want fewer characters. Reduce the number of playable characters, make every playable character be in the canon party and exist in the story, and greatly expand their movesets.
I think I got to the Bahamut fight in the sky and just stopped playing. One of the things that kills me about Cygames is that they just randomly understand and then forget what the fucking point of a story is. You can get a good story like the RoB anime (and yes, counting season 2), or random character arcs in Shadowverse, but for some reason Granblue has always been washed out and generic. There are just things happening in the vicinity of whatever party you want to play and the things in question are just random, lore-developing events and characters you're never going to see or care about again. It'd be one thing if the game were mechanically complex, but it's not. About the closest thing it had to being complex was just having no real way to keep your party alive for the duo fight towards the end.
What did they add to the demo? I played it yesterday for the bonuses and did all of the missions
>>741470274Just another character
>>741471495Which one?
>>741438262I honestly wish there wouldn't be anymore progression, the game is grindy enough as it is, I just want more contentSame with games like MH, I know it's a journey just to get to endgame but most of my playtime is already when I'm maxed out and I'm just playing for fun
>>741471602Seofon
>>741469626I'd be happy with Zoi but gold chicken would also be coolIf it's that one red lady with blue hair I'd be kinda disappointed, I want all the classic grubble representation firstZA WARUDO getting in is great
>>741472017>not fedielI sleep
>>741438262I would rather take another expansion knowing how long cygames takes to make games
>>741432245wait really?I was avoiding the game since I assumed my toaster would struggle running it
>>741473161The game seems really well optimized, rare for nip PC stuff but always appreciated
>art changes based on weapon equip and color paletteneat
>>741473464Good change
>No Arulumaya
>>741473464Soul just need skins
Only know about the series because of the Granblue and Manaria Friends anime. Is there any game where Grea/Anne appear or are playable?
>>741475292grea and anne are imports from rage of bahamut (cygames' first gacha/soshage), so they generally don't put those in the GBF spin off things aside from Grimnir who got overwhemingly popular and Yuel, who is pretty much a different character but with the same design and voice in GBF
>>741475536Appreciate it. Wasn't a fan of rage of bahamut but in the granblue fighting game threads I see Grea mentioned from time to time, so I was hopeful.
>>741475709She's an old RoB favorite like Forte so it's nice to see she's still mentioned
>>741475709Shadowverse is the only game that uses them regularly.
>>741476221That's fully a card game yes? Shame if it is.
Is the new demo the same as the last one a few months back? I went and beat the base game in between, not really sure if I need to do anything now before it comes out
>>741454825Playable Razia and Vania.>>741465874>Vane seems hosed tooJust gotta hope for patch changes I guess. Sure would be nice for beatdown to be useful.
>get to endgame>want to try super hard luci>don't have the equips for it>cheat them inAm I evil
>>741439682if I can drop sandalphon for her, then I'm playing her. really hope I don't have to beat everything to unlock her, or that she is at least unlockable partially through the story. she looks super fun. these new videos that have come up are interesting though because the new masteries or whatever can change up the meta of certain characters. i don't see how you could improve upon, say, lancelot who is basically unkillable thoughi'm worried i might get filtered. if any of you bros haven't completed the lucillius fight, we need to get some sessions going. i don't have the beta, alpha or even gamma weapons. hell, my first main was zeta and despite grinding tale of bahamut's rage i never got her fucking terminus weapon. nor did i get it for any DLC character
FINALLYThis is from the 2nd quest in ER.1st quest is the fight with the enternals.I have seen other people do this quest too and it didnt drop so it will be RNG but look, they are defo gonna throw us a bone and let us get W|E+ and supV+, probably the other curio unique sigils in ER.vid link https://youtu.be/GdtQ22zsmHA?t=1514
>>741477182Just wait for ER release. You will get terminus easy, sure you will then need to awaken it to tackle ER content but you can use the conflux. Then later on it will become obsolete anyway.Just make sure you have uncapped all weapons as that is a requirement to awaken terminus.It is only 3 weeks away until release.Then there will be shit loads of people on to do stuff like lucy and bhamut.
>>741477346bahamut i can, or could, do with my eyes closed but doing lucy by myself was impossible. i needed a cheese character like lancelot or needed to build vaseraga.
No Anila no buy. Fuck Narmaya
>>741477267New sigil too
are they gonna do a demo with fraux and fediel
>>741477390You just need to build a fully decked out AI team.I run it on my own often. it goes faster with others of course but when you have a full team they can do it.Though part of that is ideally having the lucy sigils on the team already! Takes longer without it.As soon as you know all the mechanics, and as long as you get them to hold SBA you can steam through it.(because they like to use their SBA on the labor weapons)
>>741477482That is the same image as damage cap.I wonder if this is an instant 1 sigil max damage cap.If it is we better get an alpha/beta/gamma all in 1 sigil from bub.
>>741477434>Fuck Narmayagladly.it is a crime she is the only female draph we got though. fraux over alisa is also surprising but i'm not complaining - i wanted a cooler, quicker melee character and i got them.>>741477536dude i no life'd this game for a minute, built my AI team according to who the best AI party members were (i THINK they were gran, Io and Eugen), i spent like 200 hours on this game, got a lot luckier than most with the war elementals, got like seven of them, but even my AI team couldn't carry me. I also don't think I got a single terminus weapon for any of them. I think I got like two or 3, for characters I don't even use or have built.
>>741477682Yeah you need terminus to do lucy. All of your chars need them.idk how you cant have terminus.I got them all before lucy released and sure in those days we were all grinding it so it was a kind of meta game of how fast we can do the quest but it really didnt take that long to get everyones terminus.>>741477672>>741477482>>741477267gonna be a new level of refinium grindpic related.
>>741477682For Luci I used Eugen, Yoda, and Cag as AI You need dispels
>>741477826More new sigils
>>741477826rng is a cruel mistress.i felt for all the dudes that never got war elementalthat's why i think ER, either through the conflux or just by the simple fact that cross play will be available is gonna be a game changer - yeah building your AI teammates can let you do the hardest content in the game, but farming it with humans makes it so much easierand bahamut's rage took like 10 mins per run, and the turret sections and length make that a bitch to go throughi think i fought and farmed behemoth the most.
>>741477904Good lord.
>>741477942Bhamut, the AI basically dont do teh cannons. i grindied it all with others.behemoth I have done like 150 times, only ever got 1 supV+ but WE, I goit WE fromn curious and you even get one from a side quest they added post release. I have at least 1 WE for every character now as it drops from curios more often now as well as behemoth.Still no WE+ of course.I have sup V on my mains weapon and the potent green/sup V+ they gave in the side quest so I have 45 sup on my main but everyone else is struggling.
>>741477904>>741478045They have not increased the 5k max sigils.I am already near max, gonna have to synthesize and sell some.
Siete is my favorite character in the gacha but I don't like playing him in relink. I hope the new characters are fun or its back to Id.
>>741478127honestly i found him superfun in relink. i dropped him because i could build my song better. i also dropped song because even though she WAS fun, her playstyle was killing my thumb. if i could have built siete better i would have stuck with him - what didn't you like about him?
>>741478112How even? Nuke all of your IV+ and below and all Vs. You're going to want to feed the jew for trans stuff anyways for new sigils unless they don't add the new warpaths and stuff to the pool.
I dropped relink before luci and never picked it back up.I want to play the expac but I am afraid I'm super behind on gear so I don't even know if I want to pick it up
>>741478217They're adding a lot of stuff to earlier levels for acceleration and catch up. It won't be hard to jump in.
>>741478205>Nuke all of your IV+ and below and all VI have!I am at like 3.7k sigils and am at 850+ transmarvel tickets.I was planning in going though them al and nuking all the V+ trash anyway but its just a mission. Was hoping they would massively increase it in ER to at least 9999.ER looks like it is bringing in a change to sigil synthesis so no more RNG so when that releases I will trash all the shit trait V+s and turn them into good traits.Just gotta try and hang on until then and make sure I have at least 1.5k slots free so I can start farming the new sigils, while running through the old and making them useful.
>>741477531probably not
>>741478205>>741478315>I am at like 3.7k sigilsThat is AFTER nuking all the Vs and below of course.Though there are things like I have locked every unique character sigil, even if it has a shit trait on it. But I have played the game for nearly 600 hours over the years and just accumulated shit loads of V+ sigils.nearly all that time I have always been selling my IV+ and below.
>>741427660What's the best way to get back into this and be ready for the new DLC?I loaded up my old save and tried fighting some of the endgame bosses again and I don't remember shit about how to play.So I tried a new game and started blasting through the campaign again and its piss easy. So I remember enough I guess? But I'm in this awkward middle ground where the easy stuff like campaign is a joke, and the endgame stuff filters me. But I don't really want to continue with the new save for somewhere between the 500 hours I have logged on my main until the game clicks again. Wat do?Just suffer through getting filtered in endgame bosses until I git gud again?
>>741478532a few conflux sounds perfect for you
I hope Nier gets added as post launch DLC
>>741478532>What's the best way to get back into this and be ready for the new DLC?For me, i just ran a bunch of high level quests until I figured things out again. Fighting the dragons is a pretty good start, I'd say.
>>741478176not that guy but he felt like a chore to playI stuck with sieg, he felt really fun
>>741479132Is she ok?
>>741479137i found him super flashy and fun. like a cooler, better katalina.
>>741478532>>741479134If you want to learn mechanics, what you can do is just take all your damage skills off and fight a boss.White dragon is good for that because the AI never use the balls which you are supposed to use to nuke it so it takes so little damage you can be there forever.its what I use(d) to get 30SBAs with every character to level their ascension weapons.
>>741479206he's definitely cool as hell, it's just the upkeep feels like a pain in the ass, too much to pay attention toit just didn't flow well in harder fights like luci
>>741479137>>741479206I actually cannot even remember how he plays now desu.i tried him and tweyen and I especially didnt like tweyen and after all this time I forgot what he does.For me, I am percy main then in order of fun chars is kat, seig, id.I am hoping ER has so much varied end game content that is not so brutal that I am gimping myself and harming the team if I do it with anyone but my bets chars so i can run in with any of the characters, have fun yet am still making progress.
>>741479223He suffers from being a micro melee character, the best "build" I found was just relegating for support giving him his C.A Skill to lengthen an ougi chain DPS dump.
My main problem with the original relink was the whole "boss goes into their (basically) invulnerable phase and you just dodge the floor until they calm down and you're allowed to play the game again" segments of the fightI hope the DLC has less of that, or at least some more interactive segments of that (like the lucilius ones were pretty cool)
>>741479341I liked Lucilius' puzzle parts, it at least made it engagingDefinitely the best fight in the game
I did all the original end game stuff but stopped before Lucilius came out.My main problems were>end game bosses generally died in like <2 minutes and barely got to do anything if you were playing with a competent (not min-maxed, just competent) team>barely any actual mechanics, generally you just iframe through attacks and you win or you fuck up the iframes and you instantly explode and dieRagnarok addressing either of these?
>>741430148I just think they're neat
Had fun with Bea.Though I'm dumb and I keep switching mode when I don't want to.I wonder if they'll make defense and regen useful, it seems the typical case where you just want to stick to offense all the time.
>>741479804in the interviews they said they're planning on making the bosses less reflex based and more knowledge/puzzle based. They don't want to isolate audiences that can't do something like Zero
>>741427660I never played granblue stuff until relinkI only know Beatrix from doujins but I really like her so she will be my main
>>741479804Your main problems aren't present with Lucilius, you should have stuck around lolWell, you can definitely instantly explode
>>741480798>should of stuck aroundfor 1 (one) boss?
>>741480848great fight but if you get the expansion it will have a higher tier version of him >>741480240have place for both styles so hopefully they do both
>>741427660i heard sandalphon is the nortubel of granblue
>>741480848it's the best fight in the game by far so yeah
>>741480848You say it like it's a massive investment to just boot up a fucking video game. Yes for 1 boss fight. Why not?
>>741480073clockslop
Hope it's solo friendly unlike the main game which even with absurd amounts of grinding is still fucked.
>>741481268just cheat the shit in for your ai bro
>>741481268What?Only parts of the base game that are what you could call blocks are bhamut. Both versa and the final battle. they are there as build checks. Versa being the entry to proud and last bhamut being the entry to terminus, and eventually end game.You just have to build the characters by farming, grinding and leveling up all your team.They already said with ER they are nerfing the base game missions as well as making even ER quests until the end of the story be able to be played on assisted mode.Most likely chaos + and ++ will be where you cant play on assisted and that will be the real end game.
>>741481268The AIs are better than players though.
>>741481538That is true but the difference is real players will have properly built characters so you go from needing to build 4 characters to just 1 so it's less investment to play with real players.
>>741481538Players aren't that bad
>>741481538as someone who likes a subtle level of sag on big tits, this is puke-inducing
>>741481268on console, when playing with CPU's, the endgame DPS-checks require you to do an imput command that feels pretty cursed in how tedious it is in the middle of combat, if i remember correctly. Just really awkward to get the cpu's to do their big burst thing all at once.
>>741481538it depends on the playerGood players are significantly stronger than the AI, clear times are evidence of thisBut the AI is at least consistent and are usually better than bad players
Io and Zeta are my mainstays, Vaseraga may be replaced by Gallanza and Cag by MagielleWhen are they showing off Fediel, I have no idea what she does
>>741463148>Mag's skills unsurprisingly summon her weapons>but you're capped at 4Understandable, but sad
I plan to continue to be a Siegger
I'll stay loyal to my potato.
how many new characters are in the dlc?
are they going to alter any of the existing character's kits or is Vane still going to have 1 single combo that he uses non-stop forever because it's 800x better than any other combo string.
>>741485928I really hope they look at all the existing skills desuI hated how every character had like 4 skills that were usable and the rest were just trash
>>741427660i've been waiting for a sale on the base game for months fingers crossed on steam summer sale
>>741484998there are already videos of people playing fediel
>>741486510Didn't the base game just have its price lowered permanently? On my page it's around 30 bucks converted now. Although I'm also not sure if it's just SEApoor pricing.
>>741485928I hope so.Box, is just looping power strike while being 40% in iframes and the other 45% in autoguard.
If a simple Red Golem was kicking my ass how bad is it going to be when I have to fight Bahamut or Bubs.
I love how Bea is just the retard friendly character in both Versus and Relink
>>741488737bahamut is a gimmick fight, it's just canon phases into DPS checks.Lucifer is where it gets actually hard, there's some notable bosses like pyeta and some of the primordials but they're pretty easy overall.I'm guessing bubs should be easier than lucifer if they're going away from reaction based fights
>>741488850Compared to the other relink characters she's pretty convoluted, potato is the peak retard character since you're only spamming noble finishers and doing litteraly anything else is a dps loss
>>741488850>want to play bea>she's the shitter character with probably a nonexistant skill ceiling its not fair
>>741488316idk, but it was on sale in novemberi won't buy it unless it's on sale again
>>741476626Holy fuck I love fat tails so much
>>741488737Now imagine 2 golems at the same time.
I need cygames to make a game where I am forcibly breastfed by Draphs without my consent
>>741479341This is why I started playing Tweyen so if a boss started rolling around the arena in its berserk mode they would just get shot to death from a safe distance
I got Relink in anticipation for Endless Ragnarok. I unlocked all characters and their Terminus weapons, and the only mission I have left is Zero. It's really stupid that some endgame missions don't drop large weapon upgrade materials. Imagine having to grind 200 Proto Bahamut runs for the Terminus weapons, and then still having to grind for upgrade mats afterwards. Just lame.
>>741490715Didn't they fix that with Lucy?
>>741489806Good taste
>>741490715>>741490756iirc behemoth is the value pack farm for generic mats
>>741490879>behemothWas that added after Lucy? I don't remember fighting that.
I've never played the game, but is there a micro bikini mod for Charlotta?
>>741427660trans colorsi will not be buying
>>741490951Was added at the same time i think, i know it was there before the sandalphon patch at least
>>741490401that's fine and all but when they are in bloodthirst or whatever the fuck it was called they take -99% damage or some bullshit
>>741427660No one is hyped about monster hunter but with no content bro come on I might as well be playing an indie roguelike
>>741481581>real players will have properly built characterslol
New save or continue old one? Which are you picking?
>>741439682Eustace since he'll be the easiest to unlock. Then I'll go for Gallanza next since I assume Fediel and Fraux are postgame unlocks. Playing Lancelot in the demo and I still rock with him, so I'll stay with him and Tweyen since bows are always fun.
>>741490824More games should have dragon girls with meaty tails
>>741427886https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkyGbDKsMsgThe devs made an under 8 minute video for people like you. Don't waste your time on the anime or other forms of granblue media it's story is NOT worth any more effort than this.
How do you build Katalina? She's too reliant on Ares. Every defensive maneuver (guard or evading) seems to work against her kit.
>>741491787ER fixes the evade issue, sort of. If you dodge mid combo she keeps Ares now, when she didn't before, but it has to be mid combo.
>>741491787You spam her combo and build her to facetank everything.
>can't remove the captain from the partywhat is this bullshit. am I really stuck with this teenage retard and his two shitty mascots for the whole story?
Bought this a while ago on the ps5 but never got around to starting it, does it make sense to start now or should i wait for the dlc and all the changes it brings?
Is Id really low tier? I'm starting to enjoy him a lot. He can do crazy damage in short bursts, and he has great range. I guess it won't matter with the balance changes soon. We'll be seeing more than just Sandalphon, Charlotte, Io, Tweyen, and Cagliostro over and over again.
>>741493052he can shit damage with the right conditions.He's not low tier but his issue is that he loses all his damage on a down since everything comes from his godmight which takes a ridiculous amount of time to reach AND you need to time the SBAs during it for optimal damage.
>>741491787>>741492096not sure if it's kept on release but ER changed block mechanics, you can hold block and it will block regardless of your character's state, you can pull off some ridiculous shit with that, notably "aura block" wich is basically a perfect block without interrupting anything you're doing if you just time the button press correctly
how long does it take to beat the base game?
>>741493052His personal sigil and warpath is a game changer. You want to have Ragnarok form + Cascade + Quick cooldown to maximize uptime for Godmight.
>>741479341It doubles down on it actually, they literally get two BT moves during OD now
>>7414855586, one for each element>WaterBeatrix>WindEustace>EarthGalanza>FireFraux>LightMaglielle>Darkness Fediel
>>741488737better lube your anus
>>741488850>>741488850I played the shitout of the base but lets not kid ourself, most characters are a mash galore. I think the only standouts are Ghanda with all his dodging and Percival with his schlong charge.
>>741493042>>741493378start nowif you don't skip any cutscenes (when you pause the game it summarizes the cutscene in text if you want to skip it) maybe it'll take you 15 hours if you aren't switching mains too often, but even if you are you shouldn't struggle too mucheveryone says this but it's true: the main story is basically a big tutorial for the end game quests more than half the game is locked behind story completioni would start if i were you so you at least have one character you really liked buildyou could probably not struggle at all if you buy relink, buy sandalphon and do the main story - he is ridiculously OP.
>>741469626>>741472136Id is getting added to the fighter, so of course it'll be Versusia as the 3rd boss for the cross-promotion. Why else would they be so secretive about it?
>>741493957io is also charge based, sieg is less mashy since you need timings a least.
>>741427660>not a single playable PrimalNo, Rosetta doesn't count
>>741427660I think my main critiques of the first part of this game was the lack of multiplayer optimization for an instance-zone based ARPG. I hope they fix that so multiplayer is more fun and seamless.And even though the game is one of the most gorgeous looking games, and well optimized too, the environments are really not that interesting to explore. I doubt they will do much about that, but maybe some cool things to find off the beaten path might be enough.I'm looking forward to trying it out.
>>741427660I will be using my main
>>741494710That's a man
>>741494768And that's what makes it so fucking hot
Footage that has some of The World fightwww.youtube.com/watch?v=2i6ivO-dcFU
Datamine time, here's one of the secret boss also level ??? with most skills having 999999 damage
>>741495021would be based if buffvyrn was in
5 hours of playtime in the demo already, this shit needs to release.
>>741495021we are not worthy of macho vee
>>741494939That’s pretty gay bwo...
>>741492782You can remove him when you unlock the cooler dude who mogs him
>>741495553female body minus the gayness of an actual woman is peak straight
didnt knew the weapon also changes in the art if you equip a different weapon
>>741496203What would a threesome with Zeta and Bea be like??
>>741496298death by snu snubut heavenly
>>741493378main story is pretty doable in one sitting if you give 0 fucks about reading fate episodes but main story is this game's tutorial, you gotta beat the shit out of lucilus for a more proper base game clear which takes a while considering pubs already dead long time ago>>741493052Nah but he is a case of needing XYZ to do big numbers in a "meta" where multiple ice homos casually rapes faa and potato has bullshit dps with jump+Y spam after behemoth update
>>741497231i though the perma iframe build was abysmal dps on lacnelot
>>741493052In the case of end game fights, a good amount of the cast can still clear and do stuff but you pretty much have to play a different game in fishing for nimble dodges or precise wrath. Some characters can also only do DPS in link time. And then there's a few characters who don't give a shit and play their game unhindered and also have the required dispel while still shitting way more dps even at your most optimal conditions. And then there's Ferry.
>>741496298Impossible unless you're a shota
>>741499282WRONGthem and her>>741499195are for sad oji-sans like me
Just got the demo after playing the main game until Bahamut rematch (never did Luci)How do we feel about summons using a shared gauge online?
>>741497231NTA but after the main story how grindy is it to do the postgame? Or where should I stop to be ready for the new story?
>>741500067mildly annoying especially if they waste it on OD but every summon cast reduce the cost of the next one so in actual content everyone gets to use one i'm guessing
>>741500475I'd stop cause they're making the grind way easier when the expansion comes out.
>>741500475Once you're an apprentice fixer, you're good to pause.
>Rackams standing in africa>Keeps moving from on side of the map to the opposite>Out SBA rangeCan i call people slurs in this game
>>741493052He's "low tier" in that he requires effort compared to shit like Charlotta to do well while also not reaching their dps potential.He clears shit just fine.
>>741501569Based let the pawns do all the work
>>741493305>you can hold block and it will block regardless of your character's stateYou can do this in game anyway if you are holding block before you do the attack>a perfect block without interrupting anything you're doing if you just time the button press correctlyThis is bullshit that people have come up with because people like seig now has an effect when he hits his timing on an attack animation.Captain already has this too.
>thread is still up>>741493052Fuck me, i just spent the last hour leveling up his Terminus. hopefully he gets some good changes
>>741505318pretty sure he will be way higher if not top tier with >>741452828Surge is the best skill in the game, if you get resets on it then you get very high damage in both dragon and godmight, you're still fucked if you die and go down to human tho
Well, I hope it goes on sale
Add farmeable skins, colors, splash/SBA arts, way more stickers and visual customization to player profile. You can totally make people go on the deep end without the need turning everything into a wowBIGnumber race
>>741495021i fucking kneel if this is in
>>741427660I wish I liked these lame arse game, but I can't handle the slow pace no action
>>741509027>Slow pace no actionNigga did you actually play the game?unless you're talking about the story
All I have left to do in the game now is the 2 gauntlets with every character and zero.I really want to play but all there is to do is boring and annoying shit, both of which you cant rally do with randoms as they fuck it up.Need ER to drop soon.Shame they didnt just give us the base game patch notes already.
>>741507182I wish they would add at least one other SBA animation
>>741509027Stop playing gran
do you unlock characters through the story or just missions?I need to know what to focus on
>>741511597DLC characters are bought with materials from end game missions, kinda forgot how it was for the others, iirc you get tickets gradually through the story, i don't remember needed to grind missions at that point
>>741511597>>741512030You get a ticket for every ~2 hrs of story content for the base unlockables, at least for the first maybe 8 tickets or so. That's plenty to start, and you can test a character after you buy them if you quit WITHOUT saving after smacking the dummy around.
Zero is a genuinely good fight I hope raganarok can top it.
>>741512310All the fights in the game are great to be fair really should make a tier list
Yodarha is actually fun to play, never touched him until the demo
Do you guys think this is all additive?
>>741512991Yes
>>741512991yea, because some of those mastery levels are the exact same. Would be silly to reward people with a higher mastery level with the same stats.
>>741513029>>741513091So you look at this. Just gran that is a guaranteed +140% dam cap.Then there is another 20 coming from the equip bonuses from summons, which are the same buffs as over mastery.We are gonna wipe anything before ER so fast. Including lucillius and zero.
>>741513029>>741513091I will most likely have enough MSP to just get my character to mastery 50 instantly.I would honestly suggest to anyone who has the same to hold off leveling them up because if not we will stomp on the ER quests so fast.I intend to try and stay within the PWR level of the quest.I made this mistake in the base game by using my main to do all the quests for all the other characters terminus weapons and awakening materials. It trivialized the combat and made it all a chore.
>>741512650The demo really encouraged me to play other characters, Katalina feels fun but god shes like a worse worse, Seite
I tried zero some time ago but nobody was running it and with bots it was just miserable, they can't complete the labors for the life of them.
>>741513429Yeah some fights are clearly designed with humans instead of the AI. I expect more of those fights in the expansion which I dread.
>>741513429i got lucky and got carried by some god gamers doing it last week
>>741513384She is my 2nd fav character but to play her you need to face tank everything, You have to set her up with stout heart, loads of defence, drain. I had her with bezerker for a long time but took it off in anticipation for ER as now she can dodge and not loose ares.>>741513552>I expect more of those fights in the expansion which I dread.Actually they said the story of ER is tied to the quests and you can play ER full assist. its only after the story that you then have to play normally so expect chaos+ and ++, which I think will be remixed versions of ALL the ER quests, with better loot drops, higher damage and resistances and probably harder mechanics.They did say they didnt want missions to be reactive like lucy and zero, more mechanics based. Though i expect end game missions, like bub probably, will be more complicated and reaction based.>>741513429>they can't complete the labors for the life of them.They can but you have to help them out.Last time I did it they did the labors perfectly but I died and wiped. Plus fucked up SBA and wasn't built for it properly.
They should've put her in the demo.
I know it is rather trivial, kind of like dragons dogma pawns but all the faggot AFK farmers who have WE+ and supV+ are gonna have the best pawns which most people will pick day one. most likely leaving our pawns in the shitter, never used.
>>741513192Lol this is crazy everything pre ER will essentially be irrelevant
>>741512030>>741512176so you get tickets and you just buy the guy you want?
>>741513928This was one of my gripes with the base game is that like 95% of the quests become complete trivial leaving only a handful of quests.Like all the easy-hard quests I probably only ever done once and there are loads of them.Same is gonna happend to maniac and proud.Sure some of them will still be useful to farm materials for weapon uncaps and awakenings for the new characters, though conflux would be better. The new transcendence as well as upgrading sigils might mean some of the missions will be worth farming too, but its all gonna be steam rolled.it even looks like lucillius sigils are gonna be obsolete within 2 or 3 quests into ER. see here>>741477672Looks like it is gonna be at least 2 dam caps in 1 sigil. Has to be. most likely gonna be a full 65 dam cap in 1 sigil. Making terminus useless and lucy sigils useless.
>>741511597Warning: do not unlock characters that you do not intend to play as any time soon. Ultimate weapons for most characters drop from a certain endgame mission, and it's completely random. Having fewer characters unlocked increases the chance of you getting a weapon drop from the character you use.
>>741514214lmao yep that why i dont understand why people are grinding zero just beat him to say you did the clear but all those sigils are going to be irrelevant early onthis has me wondering are we getting another tier version of proto bahamut and such
>>741514250ER is changing it so you get a trade in token so you dont get bricked when your main gets their terminus last
>can have lv1 of all the new masteries at once, but can only level one of them>mfw Vane gets his warpath has a mastery with a bonus of being debuff immune when it applies (meaning if beatdown gets buffed he's getting 40% of the bar on a block, meaning could finish a combo with full gauge). This one is a clear lv1 and done unless the higher levels give other new benefits because more gauge is just eh>another is more defense and a shield. A possible meme level option with the crab defense buff and his defense sigil for big face tanks, but generally feels like a good option just for safety>The last allows his attack and defence buffs to affect the party, but reduced effects. Obvious reduction of the reduced effects on leveling is obvious. Could be good depending on if it is just his own buff affects them or if it counts as party buffs which can be easily overriddenJust buff beatdown gauge and his non-ED attacks and I'll be happy.>>741512991It's definitely the case.>>741514509I'm fully expecting a new weapon for each character that is going to completely replace terminus.
>>741513376>I would honestly suggest to anyone who has the same to hold off leveling them up because if not we will stomp on the ER quests so fast.that's a good point. I've got a bunch of ambrosia that I'll save for AI characters that i want to level up quickly once I finish the main content.
>>741514509Ultimate Bahamut is a thing so maybe
crazy how they haven't added THE monster hunter character to their Monster Hunter clone
>>741514094from the base roster yes, then there's a story unlock and the DLC characters which require grind unless you paypig
>>741514651>I'm fully expecting a new weapon for each character that is going to completely replace terminus.iirc they're going to rework the weapons with a thing called "transcendence" and it's supposed to make the other weapons useful. It would be so fucked if we get better than terminus weapons while Sandalphon gets to keep his Ain+
>>741514887Not sure if mr scythe man falls under base or dlc, but I guess ill just do the story then
>>741514759we do know for sure lucilius is getting another version so i cant see why they wouldnt do another another version for bahamut
>>741513816>They can but you have to help them out.They can in the base Luci fight, but in zero they failed all the time in my case.
>>741514946doesn't Ain+ cap your hp at 45k so you will just get gaped very quickly unless you are a god gamer>>741514998Vaserega is baseline
>>741514509Zero already dropped nothing of value to the PWR creep, it ends at bezerker echo. 1 of the gauntlets.People are farming zero for azerites, ambrosia and ingots.Though that is retarded as power levelling chars is not a smart idea as you end up fucking the content for yourself in a rush to get to the new end game for everyone.Still you are gonna need a fuck load of MSP to get everyone to 50 mastery so ambrosias are useful.>>741514697Ambrosias are gonna be needed for masterylook here>>741512991you can see it takes 7500 MSP to go from lvl 10 to lvl 11.Imagine its like 100k MSP to go from 49-50Then think you gotta eventaully do that with all the character. its a mega grind.though the ER quest shown are dropping 3k MSP, plus when every char is at 100 you get 100 MSP every time they level up as well as ER quests are dropping shit loads more EXP. So say 3200 per ER quest on average.When we get higher in quests and chaos tier, expect that to go to 6-10k MSP per quest.Point is MSP is gonna be useful and needed again.Though my original point was NOT to dump all your ambrosias into your characters so that you dont become too OP and stomp the quests.Like the 2nd ER quest is PWR 23000.Make PWR now with full meta build is like 28000 (I think) Zero is 25000.If straight away you dump all your ambrosias into mastery you will be like 28000 (probably) and just fucking stomp every ER quest, ruining the initial fun for yourself.Making playing ER like playing a normal or hard difficulty quest right now when you are at end game.Don't ruin the game for yourself.i think what i am gonna do is level my AI instead of playing online and slowly level a 4 person team while keeping them in the same PWR level of the quests, until I get hard stuck, run out of MSP then I will just play my main online.Not playing online in case others have fucked the quest by dumping their ambrosia into mastery and being too OP for the current quests.
>>741515296Zero is surprisingly 22k so the first fight technically requires more powerrealistically it will be nowhere near as hard since basically everything in Zero is just "get hit, fucking die retard" and there will probably be a sizable amount of returners who will just blow the fight open
>>741515106That is why you need to help them out.you need to know how to manipulate them to encourage them to go for the labors.like choosing the discs that are on the outside of the arena first, farthest away from them, closest to you from outside to in. In that order.The wings you need to b line to the middle to hit it yourself then bline to the outsides of the arena first.Weapons you need to do in a specific order and just targeting to throw the weapons for the debuff to help them kill them faster.of course hold SBA so they dont dump it on them.All while in the 3 phases you need to be trying to get SBA with nimble onslaught dodges as much as you can.When you learn how to help them out you can get a hang of it and they do it more consistently. they do still fuck it up though.
>>741515296> fucked the quest by dumping their ambrosia into mastery and being too OP for the current quests.That's what I was talking about what I'm not going to do. I was going to save ambrosia for when I complete the ER content, then use it for other characters to get them up to speed. I imagine the ER content will be easy to get MSP on. That along with the conflux will probably make it go by relatively quickly.
>>741513816Zero Labors with AI is doable, but it's around 50-50 even if you do everything right. I find having untouchable helps quite a lot, the biggest hurdle are the colors and the extra dodge distance lets you go after a circle without meeding to circle back all the way the other side.
>>741514946The problem is that it's clear balance is going to shift to needing more HP to not get one shot by every single thing.So even if that does happen, I still see a solid chance at the awakening weapons becoming more vital with that high HP echo.
what do you get for finishing the demo?
>>741515484>Zero is surprisingly 22k so the first fight technically requires more powerReally?i know zero requires you to build less for raw damage, more for survival anyway where lucillius is more damage.The point was about staying within PWR level anyway. 23000 is the PWR for ER start.>>741515651My biggest concern is playing online and it all being fucked by online players.ideally i would like a lobby,friends etc that i know are not noobs who get rekt and actually want to engage rather than stomp content.i am already especially concerned with PC crossplay as PC only fags break games and they ruined relink day one.Probably gonna have to keep crossplay off
>>7415157623 low level sigils for like the OG demo and 1 centrum for killing the ruby golem.Not worth downloading for desu
>>741515789didn't low level quest have a power cap anyway?
>>741515967Every quest has a PWR level, recommended but you can play them below PWR, and then in random search you can filter PWR level so you dont play with people who cant do the content (lol) but I dont think it filters people above your PWR level.Day one ER with random and people are killing shit in 2 secs because they are in a rush to end game and farmed zero for ambrosias will be a downer experience.
>>741516112>Day one ER with random
>>741516112People jobbing to Gal'n'nMal and Twin Fire&Ice dragons was the peak of the game for me. Those are still stellar but get folded in a second due to pure numbers powercreep.
>>741516329Nah she already filtered most of the players, they all moved on to sandalphon instead
>>741516329>>741516657Is the new Narm going to be Bea or Fraux?
>>741516923Zeta and Tweyen later took over the waifufag deadweight. I totally see Fraux stealing that spot
>>741517084I can see Zeta, but I mostly stopped playing when Tweyen came out. What was wrong with her?
>>741516923in terms of gameplay, fraux. in terms of shitters wanting to play a hot girl? Probably Fediel.
Does anybody pilot Zeta running Less Is More and no skills? Getting 260k+ per loop hit is nice, but I wonder how high it can get. The only skill I miss is Infinite Wonders, but that's no big deal.
>>741517731I dont like her play style but when i played her I just used the 1 skill that dashed and allowed me to get into her loop. Is that infinite wonder?
>>741481268>even with absurd amounts of grindingyou can afk every fight in the game except zero after building your AI team
>>741518031Building your team to the point that you could just AFK is unironically the most thing I did in the game. The satisfaction of seeing that progress pay off in the ultimate show of strength was cathartic.
>>741516329Nah first couple days will be a lot of the new characters, mostly the duo since they'll just be given outright while you'll need to get the tickets for the rest from new content.
>>741518031cheating also lets you not have to play the game
>>741518521makes no sense in relation to that commentwhy are you cheaters retarded
>>741439282Not to mention Camieux, who is the (R) pick on the user-choice banner every single last time.Not that there's a wide field to choose from there, but she doesn't have an SSR and people do like her.
>>741518657what the fuck is the point of your comment then>game too grindy>if you grind enough you can just auto the grind!
>>741519042no one said the game was too grindy you retarded cheater
>>741518147And then taking them to fight and them generally being better than even myself when I'm not playing a retard proof character like Sandalphon or Charlotta.
>>741517731Only use less is more in Zeta if you REALLY wanna fully cap her Arves hammerWarning, rough numbers here:A fully capped Hammer does around 900k per hit for 4 hits.2 with extremely high modifier that will cap regardless 2 with really low modifier with lots of diminishing returns, if you can get those to hit 500k you should be more than happy.
>>741478068i've only ever had 1 WE+ drop and it has potion hoarderwhich means it's usable on every character i decide to main until it's replaced in the expansion
i'm so sad this drops during my 2 week closure at workcan't take off until the 20th
>>741518147>Your AI allies ends up stronger than 80% of pubs who queued on normal faa
>>741518147i know a lot of people hate it but the power scaling in the game is something i actually likegoing from trying to time sieg enders with crystal spawns on proto baha because you're not sure you'll clear them to just afking it is amusing to methe gacha is similar when new stuff is releasedalso kind of creates a natural way for new players to catch up because you still need materials from all those old fights
https://www.invenglobal.com/articles/22911/a-story-reborn-granblue-fantasy-relink-endless-ragnarok>Currently, costume changes are not possible in Relink, only color variations. Are there any plans to add new costumes like the swimsuits from 'Granblue Fantasy: Versus'?>Tetsuya Fukuhara = Costume changes are one of the systems I really want to implement, as there are many requests for it. I personally really want to include the swimsuits from 'Granblue Fantasy: Versus' that you mentioned. Specific details are currently under review, so it's difficult to say right now, but I will try as hard as I can.
>>741521726We are going to get skins finally
>>741521726Now this would be some motivation to grind.
>>741521045Yeah I think Relink has some of the most fun and addictive progression I've played in a video game. You can definitely see why people liken the game to Monster Hunter cause it definitely scratches that same grinding itch.
>>741522191i'm sure we'll be grinding rl dollars for costumes
>>741522286They owe it to us after how much we got dicked compared to Versus.
>>741521726while this is great, they already censored nearly all the girls so i cant be too excited
Is there no way to access the training room in ragnarok demo? Playing as potato again since i mained her and its like i never played her at all fucked up all her combos>>741522286At least cream works for relinkBut doubt new costumes ever happens and modders will wake up from their slumber after ragnarok release to make lewd costumes anyway
>>741499195>completely ignores spacing and gap-closing as a game fundamental>has literal infinite range and lock-on never breaks>can build for applying debuffs or just pure damageprobably my favourite example of a "magic archer" archetype in a game. Feels a bit braindead at first because you are just sniping poor helpless bosses down from miles away, but when you figure out things about the order of chaining her skills together, maximizing damage bonuses etc. it gets really fun
>>741523719>Is there no way to access the training room in ragnarok demo?No, but you can at least enter the first quest in the forest and just not engage the enemies to practice. Not ideal but better than nothing, it's how I learnt what my wife Beatrix could do
>>741521726So it's pretty obvious with this that they literally had no intentions of doing anything more with the game when it was releasing. It's genuinely curious how apparent it is that they had basically zero confidence in the game succeeding.
>>741524268Clockslop
>>741490957There was, but I have no idea where it went cause its couldn't be hosted on nexusmods anymore.>>741506803The next best "sale" is probably when the expansion comes out and you can get the complete edition which saves you $10.
Please let her be fun
>>741520290I have never had one but also have not super farmed behemoth.I have enough WEs for everyone in the team and 4 left over so 4 of the 6 of the new characters but no WE+I have done behemoth at least 150 times though.
>>741521726WTF does this mean:>However, many felt that it wasn't the damage cap system itself that was hard, but the repetitive process of strengthening it. So, we improved the enhancement cycle in this installment, allowing you to enjoy strengthening your damage cap without feeling burdened.
>>741427660>censored slop
Did they ever do anything with the stupid damage cap nonsense that makes supports nearly useless?
I really liked this game until I got to the very final mode and then its like lol everything is a 1 shot your defenses dont matter
>>741529616only zero is really one shotting you
>>741529521Yes, they're making it so buffs go over the cap now.
>>741529318He means that everything revolved around the damage cap and at the same time the maximum possible cap was way too low compared to how easy it was to hit the cap with like 3 damage sigils. So the only thing you ever looked for was getting every ounce of damage cap possible. ER is slapping in a bunch of damage cap naturally outside of sigils so your numbers will keep going up. If there is enough damage cap then eventually the cap stops mattering because you need to focus getting your stats up to actually hit the cap.
>>741523719>>741524268Yo should be able to go to the grandcypher and hit the dummy, you could in the OG demo.
>>741528101>clockslop
CyGames is paying Hololive to stream the game.
>Never in my life have I played a slow, hulking or edgy character in a game>Go through half the roster just not feeling any character is right for me>Vaseraga huh, I guess ill just get him capped and move on->I AM THE SHADOW OF DEATH. ETERNAL DARKNESS. YOU CANNOT BREAK ME.
>>741529962good
>>741529759>you need to focus getting your stats up to actually hit the cap.So you mean the cap is gonna be so high that instead of just focusing on every damage cap source...we can finally focus on damage sources because we already have so much cap we are not even hitting it?Like in training we would then want to get our team using damage buffs to even reach caps.That would also mean they have to sort sigils out so the dam cap sigils dont take 4 slots. Which they might be doing early on in ER if you look above there is a new damage cap sigil. At least 1.If that is the case they need to somehow add a more streamlined indicator on that you are reaching cap with an attack rather than just hitting a dummy and watching if the numbers are the same or a striketrhough.Even something as simple as the number turns red in the training area would be more easier to spot than how it is now.
>>741529616The pop all the bubbles within 2 seconds or die shit is far more annoying.
>>741427660beato bros ww@?
>>741529962>HololiveFirst I have heard of it but looking for relink gameplay from the journo dumps I have seen loads of virtual youtuber cancer playing the demo...its this shit.Obviously its all weeb/jap shit so makes sense for them to be marketing it there.
>>741530514>clockslop
It sucks that all the most funnerest characters are m*les
>>741530680>>741529912what is clockslop
any word on changing damage cap per move yet?when you hit max dmg cap, some moves are just built to have higher cap and are used over 99% of your moveset.>charlotta spins>sando Y
>>741530974
>>741496203That's because it's actually the 3D model with some kind of applied filterI'm guessing this also works for character skins
>>741531018iirc the issue with charlotta was not the cap it was her warpath sigil that made that spin to win move the only viable move. I expect they will change that in ER as they have mentioned about meta broken shit and it was not their intention that they wanted players to only play 1 way.they have specifically mentioned lancelot, but also expect changes to charlotta, gandy and seig as their meta ways of playing are cancer, i bet they change vasaraga too as his meta way of playing is anti fun.Other than extra sigil spaces I just want my main percy for his normals to not hit so weak, be able to keep schlatt charge when dodging and hopefully help more by reducing his skill cooldowns. Especially now that 2 of his buff skills are viable he will only have 2 damage skills worth using.
requesting the charlobotomy image
Where can I find all the general changes they are making? Like the buff changes to bypass damage cap
>>741531525
>>741531704There is no list and they are not even giving us the deets and patch notes until the stream 1 day before ER release.Though from official trailers/gameplay, hands on gameplay, beta and demo changes and interviews and things devs said, there is a lot of info already out there about things that are changing.
a youtuber just told me that i dont have to catch up to endgame rn and just wait for the dlc to release? is he speaking facts?
>>741530974her clock is slop
>>741530514me i love aya hirano
>>741532004the new content is after base storyyou might as well clear that and its pretty easy
>>741531920thank youi am freed of my shackles
>>741532004Just play the game lol
>>741532004Up to you.No matter what you are gonna have to go through every base game quest up to bhamut before you can even try ER. You will probably be able to skip lucilius and the other end game grind but will be gimped and not high enough PWR when ER releases.You will most likely still have to upgrade your ascension to kill bhamut and terminus to kill the enternals just to get to ER unless you get carried. They are DPS/build checks.So if you wanted to work on that now, you can. Only issue is nobody will be doing low level quests right now because we are all at end game so you have to do it solo, and will eventually have to build a full team.Then when ER drops the conflux as well as the probable increase in item drops that ER is bringing will help the grind be easier to get to ER than if you started now, but if you start now you are already in the progress.Either which way, the content in the game now, you will still have to do when or before ER releases.
>>741532004They're making it way easier to get materials and stuff for all the old things with the new mode so it'll probably be faster even if you wait.
>>741427660i'm hyped! i'm replaying the story rn to get ready for the expansion cause i haven't played since 2024.
>>741532334I ran through the story twice recently.Not played the story since release and seeing Er was coming I ran through it trying ti do the story in ultimate for the in game trophy, only to find out you have to do it another 2 times on ultimate for in game trophies.if I had known that, over these years I would have ran through it a few times. I thought it was just a one and done.Story is pretty OK though, just the filler crap is annoying when you are doing it multiple times in a row.
>>741532004You will get burned out before the expansion. I'm glad I beat it on release and got a break after hours of grinding.
>>741439682probably Fraux, then Beatrix.
>>741446028>feels more like a tales game than monster huntercause you just played the tutorial. lmao
>>741529759This could had easily been resolved by something the gacha already did against the same problem, increase enemy defense. Not only lowers the importance of damage cap but increases the utility of buff/debuff
I hope Lancelot gets something neat, though mostly I just play him cause I can button mash and just focus on dodging
>>741532196Theres two conflux modes, ones uncloks mid main story
>>741532004if you just play the story and don't do all the side quests at the co-op counter, it'll only take about 13-14 hours to beat the story and prepare for the DLC.
>>741529318Adding ways to raise the cap besides needing a gorillion sigils probably
>>741533285Yeah but if the sigils are still there then stacking cap is still there.it already looks like we are gonna get 1 sigil that maxes cap from sigils so that is good, even though it will make lucy sigils useless.
>>741533359>even though it will make lucy sigils useless.There will probably be new busted shit.
>>741533401I am expecting a sigil that gives all 3 of those buffs later on. Probably from bub.The alpha sigil cooldown is quite integral to my chars build atm, by hitting cap and increasing cooldown of skills.
>>741529962Dropped Vtumors long time ago but still glad i managed to enter gemwife's lobby once way back>>741439682Instapick Magliele day one without any hesitation, pubs will have to deal with me faceplanting nonstop like Narmaya players for a whileHayamin made her ancient sex demon
>>741535282>pubs will have to deal with me faceplanting nonstop like Narmaya players for a whileI only saw one gameplay preview of her but barring anything buried in her passives she seemed really straightforward to play. If the rougelite mode makes it easy to get other characters caught up I'm probably gonna make a braindead all ranged NPC team for solo play, I already have Eugen mostly done in the base game.
I have nothing to add beyond I FUCKING LOVE BASARA. I WILL USE HIM EVERYWHERE I CAN. I WILL DRAG HIM INTO VERUSIA ROOMS. YOU CAN NOT STOP ME.Anyways do we know what the gacha code bonus is for Ragnarok? I know PS4 Relink had the outfit.
>>741535771It's an SSR ticket and a copy of gold armor Beelzebub who is functionally the same as normal bubs. You cant use both of them at once and you can use bubs to uncap armor but you cant use armor to uncap normal bubs.
>bought relink long time ago>decide to play it a few weeks ago>news windows is full of spoilers>character descriptions are also full of spoilersepic gameshould I play the game? I'm tired of cringe bad animu stories but the game seems fun
>>741536559I hate tranime gacha artstyle but game is really goodTry narmaya as your main since i find main protagonist to be very boring combat wise
>>741427660My pc can't run it
>>741428637that would be insane
>>741427886Yeah its stand alone. The main gacha's story is so generic it makes Fairy Tale look like Shakespeare. You really aren't missing much. The main characters are incredibly boring too and all the fun characters you see from this series are never the main focus. You can watch the anime just to see what the first several chapters are like but the 2nd season skips ahead a few chapters later.
Reinstalled to check the status of my save.Went from 50 million to 32 million on the dummy test (I had been using a rebalance mod last I played).AI was still good enough to carry me through a boss rush and I get this trash lol
>>741537980>AI was still good enough to carry me through a boss rushEvery time I try that with AI they get rekt. It is the one mission(s) I cant do with AI, they just die.How do you have them set up?more health, less dps?
>>741530737But at least Siegfried is cool looking
>>741538141Full DPS. They're all running War Elemental, Glass Cannon, Berserk Echo, Improved Dodge, Nimble Onslaught, and Life on the Line.
Any explanation of the endless mode or whatever it is? Some roguelike mode or something?
>>741537980Still pretty nice. I caught my team up a little a few weeks back and I can barely do the boss rush quests lol. Probably my own fault, I've handicapped my damage a fair bit since I don't trust myself to not get hit. On a side note I hope we get access to competitive stamina builds/weapons when ER drops
So they said over 160 quests but seeing we see there are 3 tiers of chaos, do you think it will be 3 tiers of the same quests just harder versions or actually over 160 quests?
>>741538141improved dodge is a very important sigil to have on your ai, prevents them from fucking up
>>741538475>Improved DodgeWhy give AI improved dodge? They dont need it as they always perfect dodge anyway. Give them nimble onslaught/defense.Is glass cannon really useful for them in this stuff. if my AI was getting hit and killed without glass cannon they will get rekt with it.I found they were getting rekt doing lucillius because of glass canon. Soon as I took it off them I was able to clear it consistently.>>741538516>Some roguelike mode or something?Its like you said a roguelike, it has at least 4 different tiers shown so far but it looks like there is gonna be at least 5 different tiers. Each tier is harder, more PWR and drops higher grade rewards.atm the highest tier shown which only unlocks when you get to ER drops transcend materials for level 3 (which means 9th star) and it seems there will be a 4th transcend material as transcend goes to 4 stars. >>741538880>prevents them from fucking upIn what way? What do you mean?They perfect dodge all the time anyway and the sigil just gives this:>Extends the window for foe attacks to miss during a dodge. Allows you to perform more dodges in a rowThey dont need their windows extended neither do they ever dodge multiple times in a row, they just always perfect dodge anything that will hit them.While nimble defense and onslaught doesn't stack invincible time, they heal and it increases their defense when they perfect dodge and seeing they rarely use potions, it helps them not dying when they get hit by DOTs and AoEs.
>>741539097Improved Dodge lets them spam dodge even more so they almost never get hit. Without it your AI will get hit way more often.
>>741539264They dont need to spam dodge. they ALWAYS perfect dodge...which makes them invincible for 6 seconds with nimble onslaught/defence.Then never do multiple dodges in a row, they just dodge once and are invincible.Think back on your gameplay, when have you ever seen the AI do more than 1 dodge in a row.
>>741539375They don't always perfect dodge. How else do you think your dudes are dying?
>>741539426>How else do you think your dudes are dying?Not every attack is dodgable and they get hit with AoEs and DoTs.
>>741539485I just did a boss rush and none of my dudes died.Instead of arguing with me you could throw on Improved Dodge yourself and see what a difference it makes.
>>741538721no one knows the expansion adds 50+ quest since the base game with the updates gave you 110
>>741539426Anon I been checking it out and it seems you are correct, well at least people are saying if you are running glass canon, you should also run improved dodge. Obviously GC means they get hit with dizzy and die even more, so that is why my GC AIs were getting rekt.I am gonna rebuild them now and see if they can steam through these quests.My logic was obviously..GC (no improved dodge) they die.Take GC off and they dont die as often.Put ND on, they dont die at all.
>>741539770Bad punctuation?That is the official GBFR twitter.It says over 160 quests, but like I said seeing there are 3 chaos tiers, it would make sense that there are 3 separate difficulties of the same quests.So in reality there are only like 54 new quests but each have 3 versions of increasing difficulty.
>>741538475>Life on the Line.More questions anon.How do you heal them? Do you have drain on them?Also what 3 chars do you think are best for teh 2 gauntlets?Been using cag, eugen and sandy for lucy, but if any other are better for the gauntlets I will swap them out.
>>741454825I want actual co-op levels, not just short 5-minute circular arenas and shit like that. I'd also want the main story levels to be less linear and corridor-y, plus being able to co-op those as well would be nice.
>>741540117I was running those same characters and it's mostly Regen. Cag can heal herself but has Regen anyway. Eugen has Regen and Drain.
