We never got the numbers after release, and we still have not got them now.Did it do that bad?I thought the getting outsold by Pikmin and Mario RPG Remake posts were just shitpost bullshit. Are they true?
Some of you should get analyst jobs if you care about sales that much.
Part three is going to have to be some outstanding shit for people to care. Part one pissed off the core base that wanted a remake, and the thing that kept people around for part two is done.
>every day before rebirth released>GOTY GOTY GOTY LOCKED IN REMAKE SOLD 7 BILLION COPIES HATERS BTFOOOOOOOOOOO>every day since rebirth released>sales? who even cares about sales? why? how sad to think about such things. GOTY? who cares what journos think? low sales just means people were filtered by kino, actually.
>>741444960Man you are fucking obsessed
>>741444960So the ones shitposting were tendies?
>>741445941Totally not shitposting to screen bait lmao, FF threads is always about shipping or something else not sales
>>741446205The best part is tendie jannies deleting threads of games for selling better than some nintendo games
>>741444960Rebirth will be free on PS+ soon. After they add all those free downloads to the "sales" figure they will announce it.
>>741445941Max is right. It's only a minority that are complaining. These games are doing well.
>>741446598I am sure the Max fan with the Tifa icon is a good way to get objective takes on 7R.
>>741444960>paying 3x the retail price for what should be a single title with all contentI'm waiting until they release a "definitive edition" and all of the games are just one title so I don't need to think about buying THREE DIFFERENT FUICKING GAEMS
>>741444960Diehard OG FF7 fan. Fuck afterbirth. Wouldn't buy it for $5. It deserved to completely flop.
>>741447014is there any way to patch this shit out?
>>741446205This GIF was posted after the release for FF7R on threads about the game and Famitsu sales, and for FFXVI, it was a picture of Pikmin carrying the FFXVI protagonists away.
>>741444960No. You’ll get a bunch of random comments. Strawmen. “Who cares”. Tangents, and even insults.But none of it changes the fact they the company just abruptly stopped sharing sales via “X COPIES SOLD” which they did for Remake, XVI, XV, etc. lmao. Doesn’t bode well.
>>741446518Can you prove this has ever happened?
It flopped ane slopped.
>>741448113PS+ downloads are considered sales. When you download them, you are "charged" 0.00 and Sony thank you for your purchase. This will be considered digital sales.
>>741444960>Did we ever get the sales numbers for Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth?why don't you ask google?
>>741448467>This will be considered digital sales.Sounds like headcanon.
>>741444960No, it's going to be a sloooow selling. At most steam got some bigger numbers, but it's a slow burning.
>>741448467True.
>>741448467This would actually account for the very large drop in sales from part 1 to part 2 as part 1 was released for free on ps plus less than a year after release (an odd thing to do with such a """runaway success""") and only afterwards did we get out "over 7 million shipped (lol) and digitally sold" announcement.Only downside is adding all those free download numbers from people who probably never even played it meant the rebirth numbers were going to look bad on release.
>>741449032it had already sold 5m copies before that lol
If sales numbers matter for one game(s), it's the FF7 remakes.These have colossal budgets and clear effort put into them. If the remakes don't sell enough, it's a clear sign to Square to not make these kind of games anymore. They'll just continue to make HD-2D trash and gachas, cause the budget to profit ratio is more appetizing to shareholders.I just want Square to make one last big budget Final Fantasy that has the structure of FF7 Rebirth and turn based, but completely original with none of the western and woke slop in it. Otherwise it's going to be more Game of Thrones knockoffs like FF16.
>>741449032Don't worry, soon they will be able to add all the PS+ "sales" of Rebirth to all the switch sales from people who only bought it for the MTG card and immediately traded it back in, and the Rebirth sales will look nice and juicy. And nobody will mention the odd fact that it only took them a few years to let the sales info out.
>>741449081*shippedI know you love facts, so lets stick to them
Everyone in the industry knows that the first thing you do with good sales numbers is you tell everyone about them. No gaming related company keeps good sales a secret, and the only reason the sales of any game wouldn't be announced is they are disappointing.
>>741449238doesn't make a differenceAnd the funny thing is, you can't prove it does either.
We never did but I assume around 5-7 million currently
>>741446598>claim to be FF7 fan>ignore the retcon and time jannies>wait until fan consensus builds up>criticize FF7R>A few weeks later>Squeenix Devs go to Max's House>defend FF7R all of a suddenMax is disingenuous as fuck.
>>741447014Never stop making these to remind me not to buy these games, please
>>741449363Why do they say shipped instead of sold if it makes no difference?
>>741448467No they aren't.They are considered "Player Numbers".Besides the fact that Remake had already sold 5 million on PS4 four months after release. That 7 million figure was announced in 2023 after it had already come to PS5, Epic and Steam.But most importantly of all, no it's not a sale because no you do not actually purchase a license through PS+, it's a glorified rental that goes away the moment you cancel your subscription.Fucking retards in this thread spouting bullshit as usual.
>>741449485This faggot made me lose all the very little respect I had for him when he spent like an hour saying>AI BADAnyways, is there any chat in the entirety of twitchdottv with a lower average IQ than this mans? I have to close it every time I watch him
>>741449778They're used interchangeably lol.this isn't a "players" situation where they add in Xbox game pass.
This is the ONLY man anyone should be listening to when it comes to VIIR! If he says it's good, it's good. If he says the haters are wrong, they're wrong. Look at him, why would he lie?
>>741446598>Max the ultimate shill tool calling people a grifterlmao
>>741449363>You can't prove there is difference between units produced and soldAre you actually mentally fucking retarded?
>>741449872>>741449890I would like to ask you both a question. Though I don't expect two different answers.
>>741449925>He's wearing a Squaresoft jacket and not Square-EnixI guess even he knows the truth deep down.
>>741449932>>741449991>insult the opposition>vague post instead of just proving either poster wrongwhy does /v/ do this?
>>741450070Answer the question gorillanigger
>>741450070Those are from two different posters, silly. Aren't you or the other guy interested in hearing my question?
>>741449925Funny thing is Japs are not internet savvy enough to realize this guy doesn't have valuable input. He gave bad advice to DNF Duel and 2xko and now look what happened to those games.
>>741449485youre not allowed to change opinion or have a different opinion?
>>741450503>not allowedWho said that? We're allowed to point out his timely flip flopping and anyone can draw their own conclusions.
>>741447080Why? Even ignoring it is at best a decent game marred by, among other things, a huge amount of bloat and an often insanely retarded story. Not worth anyone but ff7+extended media franchise superfans' time.
>both of them didn't ask to hear the questionHuh. Similar kinda guys I guess.
>>741450480He's such a fraud, worst of all a Crisis Core fan.
>>741449485Except Max has never criticized FF7R. You just made that up, because you are deranged.Also, why should he have a problem with the expansion of the lore? He is not a manchild like (you).
why is some schizo seething at max itt
>>741451318>why is some schizo seething at max ittBecause Max loves FFVII Remake and is excited for Episode III.
>>741451529bro ive seen this guy around on twitter he’s insane
why is some schizo seething at sebby itt
>>741451753His entire youtuber career is about hating the Remake series. It will be funny watching him fall back into complete obscurity after the Remake series is finished. kek
>>741451318Ragebait = moneyI dunno why they use fucking FF for this though, use some gacha or Fortnite instead, why is the brutal obsession with FF?
>>741445047No one actually cares about the sales numbers though, people just care about being able to dunk on the Remake trilogy because they tried to milk the people who wanted a remake by making a sequel instead
>>741449461I remember the last time someone tried to assume the sales of FF7 Remake years after the 5 million milestone where they thought it had to be nearly 10 million and it was only at 7
>>741449326/thread
>>741449326But if they are too good mods would delete the threads
>>741454493I'm sure remembering an anonymous post from years ago getting proven wrong was a personal victory for you.
>>741447014I see gay couples in public and coworkers talking about their same sex spouses all the time. It’s not a problem as long as it’s a background detail. It only becomes a problem when the plot forces you to help them. Like that Spider-Man mission where you help a dude ask his male crush to prom.
>>741454970I wouldn't have cared at all if Remake defenders weren't so obnoxious about insisting the game was doing better than people thought only to be hoist by their own petard weeks later
>>741455558>letting some random post guessing sales numbers get under your skinplease find a hobby, maybe play some video games.
>>741455678>letting some random post guessing sales numbers get under your skinlike what you're doing by continuously responding to me?
>>741455558It was also fun to see them lose goty after being so annoying about it
>>741448467That's false, BUT its true that both the playstation store and eshop gives you 0.00 receipts for demos, which is wack.
Final Fantasy is a gutter franchise now.13 fucking nuked it, and the games after being low quality did not help.
FFVII Rebirth is really more of a movie than a game
>>741444960Still waiting the sales numbers.
They should make a Final Fantasy XV-2
>>741451529>They're using the "Stop Having Fun" defense.It's over, KEK.
>>741449485That's a big exaggeration. I've seen a good chunk of his videos on the remakes over the years and overall his opinion on them is overwhelmingly positive. He just makes some reasonable criticisms, like some of the filler hurting the pacing, the fate jannies hurting the impact of the story, and too many mandatory mini-games.
>>741444960Final Fantasy 7 is nowhere near as popular as its cultists and Square Enix think. FF8 ended up selling more than it without even trying on the Playstation era. Advent Children flopped, Dirge of Cerberus flopped, Crisis Core flopped. First Soldier didn't even last for ONE YEAR!Nobody in Japan cares about FF7(Japan likes 4 and 14 more), the "Remake" only sold because of misleading advertising and COVID bonus, as Rebirth proved.The fatigue is sipping in and if Part 3 sell more than Part 2 it will be a miracle.
Kill all turd based sissies
>Hamaguchi says Tifa we'll see a much 'stronger' Tifa in part 3I'm fucking done with Tifa. It's obvious they're going to remove her doubting Cloud in Revelation, probably also her wanting to give up in Mideel when you visit after two missions. How come they keep removing her canon moments and her fans give no shits?No more bitterness towards Aerith, no more guilt trippin Cloud, no more snapping at Barret, no more showing frustration at Red. I get they wanted to highlight her supporting side, but who is this character?
>>741461338There are some youtubers who criticize Remake, but he is on whole level of obnoxiousness.
>>741462046What? The 500k+ votes nhk poll shows their favorite games are X VII and VI.The fuck did IV and VIII come from?
>>741444960BARRY LOST
>>741464362Who the fuck is Barry?
>>741444960They sold well, people, especially the young crowd, hate turn based slop and naturally love the new actiony direction of the series
We know that Snoys didn't pull their weight enough to justify Revelation even being timed exclusive, they aren't even buying their own first party exclusives now.
2m
>TIME JANNIESkill noejima
>>741465802Isn't there two factions of penis ghosts now?
>>741445047you sound upset
No, we never got official sales numbers, so we can assume that Square deemed it a failure. That's why we saw the huge pivot away from console exclusivity.
>>741449882Why even watch him
>>741444960>make dogshit cash grab typical japanese all-over-the place nonsensical conceptual imagining of a beloved classic>break it into three individual games to milk the uncs who grew up with it and remember it fondly>deliver them about a decade too late>sales are shitimagine my shock!
>>741473237My favorite part is people going, but the original was split into multiple disks to excuse why SE did what they did.
>>741473237The original is too outdated to do a 1:1 remake it's the epitome of the phrase "wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle". It has a huge world map with nothing but random encounters and towns with zero sidequests.