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>mogs your favorite action game
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No it doesn't
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It's crazy how Team Ninja just dropped one of the greatest video games ever made and never made anything close to that quality ever again
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>>741445489
The game goes to shit once you go underground. Then barely starts to recover before it hits with you an entire chapter of just swimming.
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>>741445489
How come not a single game in 22 years has come close to this game's combat? Every single company is stuck making parry shit over and over again for some reason, even the new onimusha has two whole fucking parry buttons
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>>741445576
>mogs your dated ninja slop
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around 2004 this game was magical, it was two generations ahead of everyone else
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>>741445489
Shamed safereddit opinion. A sheep falling in line. Like people claiming DMC1 is the best in its series.

No. Real Ninja GAWDS know that NG2 is above all.
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>>741447194
It's more relevant than ever. It might actually be timeless. Every action game looks and plays like >>741446604 nowadays. Generational downgrade.
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>>741445576
>The game goes to shit once you go underground.
It's crazy how this isn't widely acknowledged. After you go underground you have: Alma fight, aqueducts and may be fire and ice caverns as your only good content. The rest is just passable at best.
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>>741445489
>spam X simulator
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>>741448569
It's a spam Y simulator actually
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>>741446604
we went from ninja gaiden to this clunky lock on r1 shit
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>>741448569
uwotm8
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What's the status of 2's PC port?
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>>741445489
>gets mogged and replaced by Nioh by TN themselves
>director never made another good game again
>turns out your call to fame was being one of the titles adopted as a store front for the Xbox
I pity Ninja Gaiden fans, honestly.
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>>741448987
I meant the recomp thingy of vanilla 2, dummy
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>>741445489
>Decent adventure/exploration elements
>Best level variety in the series
>Lot of close quarter fights which allow players to get the most out of movement
>Every difficulty has hand tuned encounters
>Every difficulty has hand tuned item placement, including when you acquire specific weapons
>Newer difficulties straight up add entire new enemies to the game
It only has 3 major flaws
1. Almost all of the boss fights are awful, ironically the last boss being the most fair
2. the bow aiming stuff is DOG SHIT, something that Sigma improves on quite a bit with the ability to shoot and autoaim at targets (which other titles have)
3. water levels are HORRIBLE and this is the best thing Sigma did by toning them down and making the controls better

>>741447206
Itagaki made one of the best action games every created, at a time when the genre was in it's fucking infancy, and then asked "but what if it was a musou?" and birthed NG2
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>>741445576
>>741445489
did u retards actually play it
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>>741445884
>Every single company is stuck making parry shit over and over again for some reason
...have you actually played the game?
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>>741445489
Post wallet
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>>741447206
trvkepocalypse
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>>741445489
Who ever said this game is harder than DMC is a liar. DMC1 raped me harder than any Ninja Gaiden game.
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>>741449263
just wait for an update to his yt channel, he said it will take a while for the PC port.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHKLl0kNRI8
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>>741450571
I don't believe you. The only thing that's rape mode in DMC1 is the camera but NG1 controls aren't as solid and how you're meant to play is less intuitive, you'd need to look up a guide on all of the nuances to really learn to play it.
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>>741445570
Cry moar
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>>741448819
Alma made me lose my shit as a kid
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The bosses are really baffling to me honestly. There is real, considered flow and design when it comes to player vs enemies but like half the bosses have almost no real design where you can't use like 90% of your attacks on them, attacking them in general is inconsistent, and some of them can punish you hard for doing anything requiring people to rack their heads for hours to find esoteric strats to be "consistent". I genuinely don't understand what happened when they were designing these bosses, especially when you have others that are much more straight forward like Doku
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>>741451148
Dude I got raped hard by the first boss multiple times, the first boss in Ninja Gaiden wasn't even that hard. Nelo Angelo, Griffon on the ship, and the last encounter with Nightmare also raped me constantly. Also you only have ONE healing item at a time and you have limited lives, running out of lives makes you restart from the beginning of the level. And the final boss fucking sucked. Ninja Gaiden is easier than DMC1.
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>>741451746
yeah bosses are aids and poorly designed but at least most of them are easy and have a strat or two. Both almas on master ninja gave me cancer specially alma 1 with her boring as fuck runback. Few games in the genre have good bosses and enemy encounters at the same time
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>>741445489
I like this game as well. Rivalry between fanboys to specific action games is fucking gay. I have played most of them, and enjoy them all.
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>>741449696
Another major flaw is that the unlockable flashier combo moves are a liability in the first game.
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>>741452123
Fight the first boss in NG1 on master ninja difficulty, then the first boss in DMC1 on DMD then come back to me on which game is harder.
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>>741446604
>Makes every hack and slash parry slop
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>>741445489
Wrong picture
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>>741451250
>Devil May Cry moar
Ftfy
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>>741447206
>NG2 is above all.
Now that is safereddit opinion lmao
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>>741452895
so tru oomfie!
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>>741452413
DMC1 on normal is harder than Ninja Gaiden 1 on hard. Also, to play it on DMD, I'd have to play it again on hard first to unlock it. No thanks, bro. I don't want to play DMC1 ever again.
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>>741445489
But that is my favorite action game it's probably not actually but I finished it on Master Ninja last year
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>>741447206
>CHADzor's Edge KINGS coming in and FUARKING RAAAAPINGGGGG 2sharts
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>>741448819
Unpopular opinion, The Goddess was really not that bad, like at all. There are tons of NG bosses that are worse.
When I finally finished 3RE, after all that 'hype' about how awful she was, she didn't even remotely live up to how bad people made her out to be.
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>>741450571
I beat DMC1 DMD as a kid while I never beat NGS on MNM, not even close, and that's the game I like a lot more.
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>>741453385
Indeed but I didn't need to see your reddit selfie.
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>>741445489
>X, Y, X, X, X, Y
>UT spam
>...
This is the entire game's combat system btw.
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>>741454173
MN is Master Ninja, what's MNM? Anyway, Ninja Gaiden 2 Black (the UE5 slop remaster) on Master Ninja is easier than DMC1 on normal. I am not kidding.
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>>741453882
People are complete braindead shitters when it comes to bosses. Who could've known?
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>>741454496
>MNM
Master Ninja Mode
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>>741454496
DMC1 is a relatively simple game and with items you can easily get through the worst parts. I'm not that good at action games and I'm not lying when I say I beat it on DMD.
Can't do the same with DMC3 though.
Anyway, the sheer difficulty isn't what actually matter, I agree that the memes about DMC being about punching bags are just wrong it's an actual good game at higher difficulty, even 5
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>>741454895
>even 5
Stopped reading there.
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>>741454895
I suspect it has been one dedicated autistic faggot, or at least a small number, that has been repeating that "punching bag" shit for years now. Their entire opinion of the game seems to be informed from watching combo mad videos being performed on what is essentially a training dummy, or just those level one mook ass intro enemies.
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>>741454895
The first one for sure doesn't have punching bags. Starting with 3 it seems to be nothhing but combo simulators with punching bags that don't fight back but I haven't played them yet.
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>>741453646
Obvious troll is obvious.
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>>741455247
5 was good. Especially when compared to it's peers in modern gaming. I say this as a fan of the series from the first game. It has low points, and critique of the art direction is valid, as well as V and his stages in entirety, but it's still a solid game.
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>>741455521
Trolling because I got raped harder in DMC1 than Ninja Gaiden?
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>>741455487
>that don't fight back
I would love to sit down with you and watch you play that fucking game on normal difficulty at the lowest. Somehow I think I know how that would go. You losing to hell vanguard on the first try, and getting filtered entirely by cerberus. If you even make it past those beginner enemies to the ones that dash or shoot at you.
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>>741455578
>in modern gaming
Not a high bar to clear thougheverbeit.
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>>741455816
I agree with that. I would even say that DMC5 was lacking a certain charm and appeal that previous games had. I still do the bloody palace in it from time and leave satisfied though.
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>>741452759
as compared to ninja gaiden block slop? u people are so retarded about defensive options
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I bought this game on my Xbox a few weeks ago on a whim but I'm too scared to start playing because of its reputation as one of the hardest games ever made.

I beat Dark Souls 10 years ago. How fucked am I?
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>>741455802
>Didn't read the whole post award
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>>741445489
Still the greatest in its genre. It should have been beaten by now yet it hasn't yet.
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>>741456046
it's just like dark soul on normal
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>>741456046
Depends on if you decide to become a MASTER NINJA and finish the game on Master Ninja difficulty.
If you only play it once on the default difficulty it's not THAT difficult, mostly just a learning curve
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>>741456046
>How fucked am I?
Pretty fucked, now man up and play the fucking game
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>>741456046
You beat Dark Souls, the hardest game ever made that will make you good at every game you'll ever play. You'll be fine.
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>>741456046
the difficulty comes more from incompetence rather than intention
the fights against regular are the enemies are the star, and will kick your ass until it clicks, but it will click and it wont be too bad
but the thing is everything else about the game sucks and the one real bossfight (the last one) has a retarded run back

NG2 fixes some of these problems by removing any need to conserve resources and making all the bosses jokes. While encounters may be larger, It's a much easier game until you get to the hardest difficulty
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>>741456046
On normal it's not hard at all, just some funky areas and bosses since Itagaki was a little to special
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>>741445489
OVERRATED
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It really is fantastic. Itagaki had a vision and goddamnit I love it. RIP to a legend. I pray that they bring NG back to it's former glory one day.
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>>741447206
>Like people claiming DMC1 is the best in its series.
Only contrarians say this
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>>741445489
the fucking titties in this game
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I finished on MN months ago, after VH MN doesn’t seem that bad unless you’re doing the challenges you find through the campaign. It legit took me more than an hour beating the 120 berserks and is not even the worst one. Few games have made me through them 4 times in a row, NGB did an became one of my favorites. The boss fights suck was though.



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