Sonic games have set the bar so low that people actually think this game is a masterpiece when in reality it's just not utter dogshit.
>>741448709It's basically Prime 4, where is the level design even at, oh look it has forest level, ice level, fire level, sand level,
>>741449137at least prime 4 doesn't reuse assets or nostalgia baits every 3 steps
>Frontierskeks genuinely thought they were getting the Shadow Gens experience with definitive edition when it's nothing more than a full price update on a game cuck cardThis trash is on the level of Forces and Lost World, it just has a few flashy boss fights to distract from the tedium.
i subscribe to the theory that Sonic games are just Sonic Team's tech demos
This fanbase is a prison
>>741449330Even then, the boss fights are just straight up plagiarizing entire segments from other action games like MGR.
>SAGE is all about unrelated fangames instead of sonic now>Frontiers is midBlazehedgehog was right.
>>741448709I liked it more than Breath of the Wild. Way more jank, but also way more content dense. I'd rather have 20 hours of stuff to do than 200 hours of nothing to do, and that is the metric I primarily judge this game on.
>>741449384No ones keeping you to go
This message really applies for Frontiers
>>741448709It's serviceable but bland. The best highlights are getting to really run loose and fuck about with the movement in a way that no other Sonic game really does, but you can tell it's like a beta test of concepts and didn't really have all of that in mind with all the dash pads, restricted camera segments, and broken wall climbing if it even works at all. I won't call it dogshit and bad, but it's not really something that deserved the "best 3D Sonic game sales" it got.
The only real way to be a sonic fan is pretending sa2b is the last sonic game and everything after it is a fan made project
Sonics fan base is only sustained by the pornIf the porn stopped sonic as an ip would die overnight
>>741455627*Heroes
The Sonic Fan Cycle never ends
>>741448709it has good music:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLDBIXZmTbs
>>741455627"3&K
I'm bored and I feel like a Summer Sonic game before the Steam sale starts next week.Should I get Sonic x Shadow cause it's on sale?
I remember when sonicfags claimed this game felt like the adventure games because of it's story or whatever
>>741455963Absolutely, you can even uninstall each game in it if you already played sonic gens to save space
>>741455963the newest shadow game is fun yea
>>741455963I bought it, the Shadow campaign is pretty good. I actually just bought both Sonic Adventure games since my Gamecube stopped working, and I'm contemplating buying Sonic Forces as well for the mods.
>>741455627my cutoff is after heroes unless it's riders, zero gravity, or the few good games they've released since like generations and mania.
Is it a me problem I couldn't figure out the gameplay in the tutorial?
>>741455963Shadow Gens is fine enough, if a bit too obnoxious with a certain recurring level element and too short. Sonic Gens with it is, well, Sonic Gens but with a drop dash now and no embedded Sonic 1. Not much to say on it besides it lacks old mod compatibility.
i bet OP has never even played it lol
>>741455739>>741456354Actually I agree hero's should be the cutoff even if I didnt personally care for it
>>741448709The fanbase is accustomed to eating shit. They can enjoy the tech demo feel that Frontiers provides but it's is a 6/10 game with reused assets from PSO2:NG. Sonic and Shadow Generations was critically acclaimed too and that was just a old game resold with new DLC
>>741448709I swear people are being gaslit to believe this slop is better than it really is.I have open world fatigue
Did sega forget to announce the definitive edition because people are already spotting them in retailers, one saw that it's on clearance sale lol
>>741457057It was supposed to be a shadowdrop on the stream day. Instead they fucked up and they're on shelves already.
>>741457057This definitive edition is such a nothingburger that even Sega forgot about it
Sonic Frontiers is the best-selling 3D Sonic game, it single-handedly stopped Sonic from being put on ice by SEGA.Why are we acting like Frontiers is anything other than acceptable? Just because of pop-ins ?
>>741459576Because its a terrible, lazy game
>>741448709nah the sentiment calmed down pretty hard after launch. a legit example of a honeymoon phase
>>741460042how is it terrible and lazy?
>>741459576>Sonic Frontiers is the best-selling 3D Sonic game, it single-handedly stopped Sonic from being put on ice by SEGA.And? It doesn't mean it's good. The paramount movies is responsible for making people buy frontiers
Sonic fans know no bounds when it comes to autismthey actually think crossworlds is good when the game is completely filled with bots up until legend rank and then when you get there it's only half bots. all for the full price of 70 bucks not on sale not including DLC btw
>>741460524>The paramount movies is responsible for making people buy frontiersAbsolutely retarded take. If that were the case, SxS Generations would have more sales.
The only people you see praising Frontiers is the retarded catposter a few replies above me and Twitter Sonic fans. Everyone else just thought it was okay enough, or said "at least its better than 06". Shadow Generations was the real game people were hyping up as a masterpiece.
>>741460128Sonic is and will always be an arcade platformer where you need to replay it over and over again to truly "get it".Frontiers is the exact opposite of that by attempting to be an Open World Adventure, while offering nothing of actual value within said open world. Sonic's movement are designed around the world he's in, when it should be the opposite. Cyberspace can be mostly ignored by grinding the fishing minigame, which the Monster Hunter DLC buffed. Parrying is a frozen status that they clearly couldn't get down, and refused to fix it throughout the 3 major updates the game had, while making it mandatory for their gauntlet run at the end of Final Horizon. The movement is dogshit and doesn't reward you for anything, Cyberspace itself is 70% asset reuse down to the actual level design itself, looks and plays like dogshit too, since the camera movement is stiff and Sonic controls like he has bricks in his shoes, compared to the free flowing movement both of them had in Unleashed and Generations. I don't give a shit if you like it, or praise it because it made money. Shitty things make money all the fucking time, I'm sure you can agree with that. I'd rather have Sonic be put on ice forever and get ports of the actual good games, rather than Sonic Team once again trying to prove their worth to a company that's kicked sand in their face since the Dreamcast died. Rhea Island is the only area in the game that isn't lazy, since it actually forces you to platform and take risks with the movement, and people on release probably still to this day called it the worst area in the game and a waste of time. >>741455051This is true, but Frontiers is the worst game to use this on, it has no skill depth. You can achieve anything without putting in any effort.
>Sonicfags have passed over the hating Sega phase, and now they act overly possessive, and do little victory laps every time some half passable product gets thrown their wayI honestly feel confused, because I like Sonic, and I would love it if Sonic games were really good again, but this and Shadow Generations are like one tenth of the way there, at best. Don't get me started on the fucking movies.
>>741455051well, except the Megadrive games and Mania really aren't "jank" at all. In fact they're buttery smooth-playing, well made platform games.
>>741463291Nta but I agree, I wish they would make an even more arcadey 3D Sonic game with no fluff, but I can see the appeal of an open world/zone Sonic as a separate thing. Never played Frontiers, it didn't seem good, but stuff like the hub world in Adventure and things like the Sonic CD opening make the idea of playing as Sonic in a big open world seem fun, as long as they kept the stages as separate instances. I don't trust modern Sonic Team to pull it off though.
>>741456248Get the Dreamcast Restoration Mod for SA1. It's the definitive way to play the game. Not sure if there's an equivalent for SA2, though it wasn't botched as badly in its ports as SA1 was
>>741455051That is 100% true and I fucking hate it because the jank is NOT a requirement and there is literally ZERO excuse for Sonic Team games to have jank at all in 2026.
Was chris thorndyke really that bad?
>>741460657It is good tho
>>741464105lost world was like that but shitters cried it was too hard
I honestly didn't like it at allopen world sonic honestly everything about it
>>741448709I loved Sonic Frontiers
>>741463497I think Sega has figured out they can create an illusion that the fans have some ownership over the franchise, and then they critique them less.They let some fan game guys work on real games, they hired the fanbase's preferred comics writer to work on the games, and they changed the design for the movie.Now, to put it bluntly "bro, thinks he's on the team".
>>741448709I was hoping I could mostly ignore the open world and just get a few corny nostalgia bait cutscenes, a few boss battles, and some high speed nega zone levels. But holy shit they force you to spend so much time running around aimlessly grinding for fucking collectibles just to unlock the next 30 second cutscene that tells you to collect more collectibles
>>741465828You're fine anon,I wish more people expressed its distaste for Frontiers without always being unnecessarily rude or mean spirited
