The video game industry is falling apart and I'm watching it happen in real time. I grew up with games and now I'm watching the industry steadily go up in flames. What can we do?
Nothing. There are enough old games to play to last a lifetime.
Fan the flames, metaphorically speaking.
>>741455671Eastern games are still doing well. Just play those.
>>741455671Play old games and romhacks.
Who gives a fuck
>What can we do?popcorn
>>741455671Let western gaming dies in flames
>>741455904You should. If the industry crashes and dies like it seems to be on track to doing, guess what that means for new video games anon.
>>741455671
Roblox
>>741455779>last a lifetimebullshit
>>741456060people who likes electronics and tech will make new videogames, a "reboot" on the industry it's even healthier than keep feeding big corpos, what the FUCK are your retarded fingers typing, anon.
>>741455671why would I do anything? I don’t care about a single one of these people that ruined my hobby. I’m going to continue playing ffxi
>>741455671Who gives a shit. You probably have a backlog big enough to occupy a decade or even more. You will still see new games come out, but we are just seeing the possible death of the zombified corpse that has been the Western industry.
>>741455671Nothing. It deserves to die and not because of >muh woke trannie dike niggershit but because too much money got involved and thanks to venture capitalism, every game needs to be a fucking GTA5 success because a bunch of money hungrey nepo babies needs more dough. And thus every AAA game is the same boring trite shit because everything is market researched to death and you need A and B and C because that made money for other studios and publishers and we need it too because we need more money.
>>741456157All the rpgs alone would last you a lifetime
>YFW as the western game industry goes down in flames after 15 years of chasing Blackrock money
>>741455671Why contain it?
>>741456192>people who likes electronics and tech will make new videogamesOn what? The PC? Unless the "console" is made by Apple, Google or Amazon, nobody is going to even think about doing that again.
>>741456490The forest must burn to make room for new growth.
>>741455671Downsizing, not falling apart. The only way games can be good again is by shedding the dead weight.
>>741456060Videogames have been shit for the past 20ish years. There are more good old videogames to play than you could possibly enjoy in one lifetime. I'm glad it's collapsing, fuck the suits and the normalniggers.
>>741456369supremely low iq take
fuck no, it's more like my drug addicted uncle was finally checking into rehab
>>741456787indian hands wrote this
>>741456871Global Rule #3, you'll watch your tone around here.
>Games cost more than ever to develop>Triple A studios have a completely unnecessary amount of employees>Despite the amount of employees these studios have it still takes a Triple A studio 5+ years to get a game out the doorThe current industry was not sustainable, especially when all the retards though that the money coming in during COVID was going to be the new norm and hired even more people.Team sizes need to get back under control. Budgets need to get back under control. The max development time for a game should be under 5 years. Don't announce your fucking game until you have a release date.
>>741455671>The video game industry is falling apartand that's a good thing
the globalist western regime narrative instilled upon by jews is collapsingjust emulate old games
>>741456871I’m not the one lamenting AAA games
>>741455671who gives a flying shit about the industry? good games are still coming out regularly. who cares if they aren't high budget cinematic masterpieces or whatever.
>>741455671It's been taken over by people who have no passion for games sadly. Just DEI college grads who are there to get their paycheck. We need a hard reset and get those people out of our hobby.
>>741455671What can we do? A lot, I'm sure. What should we do? Morally, nothing.
>>741456623>Downsizing, not falling apartFuck you, let me enjoy this.
>People ITT really think an entire industry crashing is going to "fix" the industryYou realize that when it crashes it's not going to restart. Nothing is going to come up from the ashes like Nintendo did in the 80s. We'll be stuck with playing games on your PC, your phones or whatever else you already have.
>>741455671>NowMoron.All the dev studios got devoured by a small group of mega publishers over a decade ago Gaming has been dead, you just didn't notice the smell.
>>741457546>We'll be stuck with playing games on your PCuhmm, good..?
>>741456060>>741456192The industry isn't crashing, retards, it's bigger than ever.Annual layoffs are part of the post Jack Welch big business cycleRead a book
>>741457546It's not fully going to die. It's just triple A industry that is really going to die. Indies and Studios that are more in the A-AA space will continue to do what they have done for years.
>>741455671What on earth are you talking about? This some YouTuber talking point or something?
>>741457546there are 1000 new visual novels every day
It's remarkable how many fucking morons ITT think the industry is crashing because it's fucking over employees That's business as usualVideo games made 200 billion in revenue last year, a 9% yoy growth.
>>741455671>Crying for this shit industry Have sex
>>741457757Xbox and Ubisoft and the other big publishers are laying off workers and closing studios It's the same shit they do literally every year and just like every year these idiots go "AAA is failing the industry will collapse in two weeks!"
>>741455671>What can we do?Continue to not buy shitty games and mock those who do.
>>741457934Oh. I'm guessing none of these anons are tabletop gamers then. Then happens around every Christmas at WotC and people every year claim the sky is falling.
>>741457546Don't threaten me with a good time.
>>741455671Laugh, there is nothing else to do.
>>741457757>What on earth are you talking aboutThe only industry "bubble" that burst is the one the gaming industry built based on COVID sales and "interest" in games based on COVID.
>>741457546>console shit will dieSign me up
>>741458274Gaming isn't a bubble and it literally went up 10% last year
>>741456570I wish.
>>741457775VNs aren't video games.
>>741458274not really
>>741455671buy chinesium emulation machines and pirate like an animal
>Live in Seattle before COVID>Go to a house party>Half the people there work for WotC, Bungie and other game or nerd companies>All of them are kinda normie or Call of Duty/Sims types>All of them are project managers or office managers I work in software and its just an extension of the office jobs being adult daycare and make work bullshit. The industry is crashing because all of these 400 person studios consist of like 50 people doing actual work. This is what the entire ongoing tech industry correction is. Ironically, I bet the average amount of acceptable games coming out stays the same.
>>741458446the point is that people are making games regardless of market trends. godot unity rpgmaker et al
>>741455671I already switched hobbies. Sold my ps5 and bought a barbell and 200lb of plates. Lifting is a more fun pass time than gayming now.I still have ny midrange PC tho, in case something really good comes out.
>>741456570You know nethack was just that? A random hacker made it on a PC (well, whatever computer they had). That is it. You've a new game just like that.
>>741456787Share yours, Einstein
>>741456060It means companies actually have to do market research and stop making retarded slop
>>741455671>What can we do?If I could I would crash it myself.
>>741458772games are shit because they’re being made by people who don’t care about them and most would rather send a political message. it’s everyone from shareholders down to k’arenisha in HR
>>741456369And it took 8 years to make the sequel so it was dated before it ever even came out
>>741458274They thought we'd be doing the lockdown/covid stuff even now and they'd still be reaping the benefits of it. They are correcting now but hopefully it just crashes completely
>>741455671>What can we do?you can play project nortubel
>corpos are going up in flames>smaller companies and indies are thrivingThis is only a problem if you've developed a parasocial relationship with Nintendo or Sony or Ubisoft or whatever, in which case you only have yourself to blame
Devs will be forced to abide by The Gamer Treaty and save gaming
>>741459593>no physical gamesThe Rentcuck Treaty
>>741455671I honestly give a shit OP. A bit of backstory because Jason Schreier is rewriting history on his faggot ass Youtube channel.> Around 2006 there was in the U.S. companies that were reporting blockbuster movie Hollywood sized budgets due to venture capital money (just search about Pandemic studios and you'll get the idea)> by 2007, 2008, you had investors having to demand their money back or ask for ROI performances which prompted for some studios to just sell themselves to publishers or risk closure or downsize> by 2010 or so you had VCs that were willing to give cash in exchange for adding socially conscious political messaging - add a "Wheel of Morality" like in "Animaniacs" due to government requirements as per the Clinton administration in the 1990s> by the mid 2010s the entire industry (major high-capital companies - so called AAA) get on board with this crap in exchange for getting revenue on the cheap> come 2021 and The Fed raises interest rates causing business loans be expensive (up to 6%) causing mergers and acquisitions and closures to downsizes as it was supposed to happen from the late 2000s to 2010sSo OP, this was going to happen anyway at some point because the industry was already broke. You have meanwhile Schreier, desperate to keep his job at Bloomberg, making a Youtube video every day to tell the people "please oh please keep buying the trash products and keep this industry alive as it was 10 years ago!" because if the industry shrinks in the corporate side as I think it will, access journos will be out of a job in corporate media as it's already happened with Totilo who now has to live off of Substack subcriber money instead of corporate salary paychecks and benefits.>Let it all burn, save your money, finish your backlog
>>741455671>Western games are finally dyingThere were some classics though, Starflight (MD) and Deus Ex come to mind.>>741456219Based
>>741459850SamfagI don't give a shit* is what I meant to type.
>>741459593>games shall transgender main characters>games shall promote gamergate>>no game shall be created to promote sjw propaganda>sandbox>open world>be philosophicalWhat in tarnation
>>741459593This looks like Reddit faggotry.Here's something more practical instead:> Buy and finish a video game one game at a time> If it has DRM, it's an automatic "meh" to consider buying> Japanese make best games, everyone else is second place.> Western game devs are stupid and gay.> Save money and finish backlogs if you have any.Seroiusly that looks like some French "Rules of War" gay shit.
>>741455671It really isn't. There's a massive thriving indie scene, AA seems to be on the rise again and the only thing that's really failing are AAA games but even then. New companies will eventually overtake the old guard and become the new AAA. We are not getting a crash ever again outside of some sortra freak solar flare.
>>741457546>We'll be stuck with playing games on your PCDear god...
>>741460147Oh yeah I forgot> buy physical always, digital are backups.
>>741455671>What can we doNothing>game industry is falling apartGood, we're long past due for a crash. There are more than enough exceptional games to play for every minute of every day of the rest of your life and never have to replay the same thing. Play those games or find a better hobby.
>>741455671>oh no, AAA games with bloated budgets will stop making gamewho cares, people won't stop making games you fucking retard
>>741457546consoles may die or they will be an entertainment system box that you can port a game to or has exclusive games. I don't think many in this thread understand or know (or even give a fuck to know) how corporations work, so I wouldn't count consoles out. As for PC faggotry - dude AI ruined that party so what are you on about? You're going to imply GaaS? Fuck that WoW faggot reasoning right off.
>>741458721I'm more into sports and AI than video games now, so I've essentially switch hobbies too. I'm just here out of habit at this point. If the gaming industry goes under I really don't care.
>>741455671>deal with the devil>devil fucks you overW O WJust play small games. Not everything is a deckbuilder roguelite.
>>741455671Like 1980s, successor will come.
>>741455671>The video game industry is falling apart and I'm watching it happen in real timeThis is a good thing
>>741455671Western shit needs to die, die faster even. The woke shit made the worst damage to the industry
>>741455671Let it die, it’s been destroyed by spiteful mutants who despise the medium and see it as nothing but a tool.
>>741461540Thanks, Goldman
>>741463423FareWell, friends.
Video games are better now than they were for most of the '10s.
>>741455671There's nothing you can do about it, it's all their fault. They knew that burning billions to kill franchises with their DEI bullshit through a decade would end up like this. Thanks to piracy and emulation, the good games are safe. Now the real question is: what happens after the last large company like Blizzard and Ubisoft declare bankruptcy and close forever?
>falling apartlol doomkeks are fucking hilarious
>>741464212>China>JapanGaming is safe.
>NOOOOO THE SPECIFIC FRANCHISES I GREW UP WITH ARE NO LONGER THE WAY THEY WERE WHEN I WAS A KIDheh, welcome to life in general, bud *smirks*
>>741456060Which new videos games should we be worried about? Goy of War 6? Basednts Row 7? Or you meant The Last of Us Part 2 Remake Original Game Delisted Edition?
>>741456369>and thanks to venture capitalismThat's every industry though. If anything, you should be rooting for AI to finally pop so the whole goddamn stack of cards falls, not just Video Games.
>>741464343What is "social/casual gaming" and why is it separate from PC games and console games?
Imagine if China makes a game console lol
>>741464490I swear I typed "Basednts Row 7"
>>741464534Gacha, farmville, candy crush, fortnite
>>741456060Indie games aren't going anywhere, in fact, the AAA industry dying would just increase the quality of indie games and get rid of all the fotm slop, and AA game devs will have a chance to have a significant share of the now smaller market. A crash is required for a resurgence.
>>741464784So the industry is only "growing" because of the phone games and throwaway time waster stuff. Without this, Fortnite and Roblox the industry would be in dire shape. Is that generally correct?
>>741455671you niggers are not supposed to be videogamers for life.you're supposed to be like dudebros who only plays videogames during their youth to college days and then stop playing games once they get a career, have a wife, and have kids.
>>741465106No because pc and console are still growing, small but steadily growing.
>>741465106the console playerbase has stopped growing since the PS2 came out,or it's growing at such a small pace that inflation has blow well past that.
>>741455671How do you mean? More games are coming out now than ever, filling niches and subgenres that didnt previously exist. I'll have to assume this is a confirmation bias tunnel vision type thing where only 3 ancient/big video game studios exist a la ubisoft or bioware or something, and they only exist when news or rumors that fit the narrative comes out.
>>7414556711: Gatekeep against right wingers. Letting them into video game discourse was part of their master plan to kill video games. 2: Support good companies and support good initiatives. You can't say companies like Activision, but you might be able to keep some kind of flame alive in the AA space. 3: Try to look for new directions. Consoling gaming is basically finished, and PC has plenty of issues. But there are still new sites and places coming alive all the time. Focus on the good, and be open to new ideas.
>>741465240Seems wildly unsuccessful to me compared to funding they are receiving. If cheap, low effort mobile slop is outperforming them by a lot then they must be doing something very wrong.
>>741464343>PwC's Global Entertainment & Media Outlook 2022-2026, Omdia>Copywright 2022 Market Research FutureSo are 2023-2026 just forecasted projections based on what they had from 2022? Are those the real numbers? If so, people were right that console basically matured/stagnated. Goodness.
>>741456491its'cool
>>741455671>American video game industry is falling apart and I'm watching it happen in real timewe grab popcorn and cheer
My only complaint is that it's not happening fast enough
>>741464343>PC is bigger than console when casual gaming is excluded from their numbersBased
>>741465768>stagnatedHave you seen switch 2 sales? Ps5? Capcom biggest year yet
literally all they have to is make games with beautiful art and attractive characters with good gameplay and music and a nice ui. thats literally it. they cant even do good cover art anymore because they refuse hire good artists. they need to start firing people and rebuild with actual talent or it will all continue to decline. they NEED to clean house. desperately. too many shit artists employed right now. 2004-5 was probably the last year for talent. after that i saw a noticeable decline in quality after ff12. alot of media has been suffering in quality since then though not just games. i thought modern games would look like the cg cutscenes in ffx. they somehow look worse. we regressed big time.
>>741459593the fuck is this retardation
>>741464534It's a biased narrative that feels only half-true where any game they don't like isn't a "real game" while the latest tlou moviegame is "core gaming". At this point, it's just bias. Goat Simulator will somehow fall into core gaming if you get it on a PC. basically >>741464482 >>741465413Consider that mobile has FF1-6 (former console game) officially *and* on emulator. It's been ages since then. So-called core gamers don't play FF1-6...sigh.
>>741455671I'd rather live and watch it die than die before experiencing it in its best era
very pleased to see the non-doomer opinions in this thread
>>741466271>Capcom biggest year yetThanks to PC according to their own words. And based on that chart the anon posted, the Switch 2 and PS5 hardware sales don't seem to be doing much of anything spectacular where it counts in video game revenue.
>>741466051eastoid cope
>>741455671The corrupt AAA industry and infinite growth delusion is over. Espescially since it stopped caring if the comsumers wanted too or even could consumr their products.The venture capitalist and money launderers are going to "AI". Nintendo, valve,roblox company are all going to survive. The smaller game industry that is concerned with games will survive. The parasite industry that grew up around and infected gaming are going to be starved of capital.Even paid shills from the third world are screwedGaming will survive. Because unlike the great crash of the 80s we have the net and organic connected fandoms.
>>741456369Wokeness is more of a net negative than venture capitalism is for the vidya industry.
>>741466589There isn't updated data yet, they don't release current number to plebians like ourself thta easily
>>741466341>good gameplayYou forgot to say pic unrelated
>>741466816its beautiful though. thats part of my point.
>>741460683Honestly sports are objectively the superior hobby compared to video games. It's a more social hobby, meaning it doesn't have the social stigma video games have so you're less likely to get made fun of and can freely talk about it passionately to normies. Can't do the same for video games aside from the annual ball and gun slop and MAYBE GTA. Also the whole "studies show video games are actually very healthy for you!" is a MASSIVE cope.
>>741467317sports fans are more obnoxious.
>>741467317Dude a kid got stabbed to death at a track meet over high school football team beef. Sports fans are unhinged as fuck
>>741455671Honestly good riddance, it's way too big. Tired of sharing my hobby with normalfags that just buy everything on que.
>>741455671play old gameslet the retards drown
Gamers have no standards, the only endgame is the death of the artform. Look at all the people who unironically prefer RE4R over the technologically more impressive original.
>>741467740Some guy stabbed his dad because he took away his PlayStation (or his Switch, I forget). Vidya fans don't get a pass either.
>>741455671Celebrate? Or do you want more Concords, Forspoken, Dustborn and Fairgame$ to be made with your money? Do you think this industry is anything other than kippah-bearer dogshit made to launder your taxpayer money through investment banking?
>>741464343Gee, I wonder what's hard carrying in this chart.
>>741468218There's literally an expose on how it wasn't just the Blizzard higher ups that were making mistakes, it was the entire culture of the company. Especially the ones that liked to blame everything on management when what they are asking is literally infinity money to sit on. Morhaime and Adham had to wrestle with this mentality ever since they founded the company and just went amok the further they expanded.
>>741468218>C-suite of a major corporation is comprised of people who held previous experience at major corporationsThis might actually be one of the most retarded posts I've ever seen and that is impressive.
>>741458639anon this describes all jobs. Due to hilarious corporate faggotry I got moved from one location to another because of restructure. Ill leave shit out since its not interesting work and a temp job for like $25 an hour, regardless, the job I was doing mostly solo made a massive impact at work. Since they wanna restructure and I didnt make the cut(but got way better hours, same pay, easier position) and now im not doing my weird niche job, in 1 week shits imploding. They wanted to hire like 15 new people to brute force shit, and cut my position, yet now shits falling apart. I ended up winning overall, but its hilarious to see, people already want me back and im like "no lol" im not staying much longer anyways, transitioning to a new career field(where this kind of effort brings in great pay and stability)Basically, what you describe happens everywhere. Its funny seeing it play out in real time. They rather would waste like $80,000 in 3 months than letting me just fucking do this job.
>get a mid-high range PC in 2024 thats now like $4000 this yearIm so fucking set forever.
>>741468032It was probably a switch owner kek, and I also agree, there are a lot of seriously unhinged video game players and fanbases, but you don't see hordes of them going out and smashing cars and shit or getting into irl fights frequently at game tournaments and cons or whatever. They are for the most part pretty civil if a little uncouth and smelly. Sports fans are on average way more willing to get into physical altercations over team rivalries, but I also think they're also less extreme in the stuff they say they'd want to do to someone they don't like. The type of stuff vidya players say to each other online is pretty unrivaled in that department.
>>741455671Celebrate, because they brought this on themselves and are now getting what they fucking deserve.Optionally then do >>741455882 but only on sale and only if you actually enjoy the gameplay.
>>741455671Unironically hang yourself, retarded doomerfag.:)
>>741455671>50% retraction from an ATH that's been growing nonstop for almost 100 yearsAIIIIIIE I CAN'T JUST CHURN OUT RPG MAKER PIXELSLOP PORN OR QUIRKY CHUNGUS TEARJERKER PLATFORMERS FOR GUARANTEED PROFIT, THE INDUSTRY IS STILL BIGGER THAN ANY TIME IN THE LAST 40 YEARS, SOCIETY SAAAAVE MEEEEEEE
Uh my pronoun is GAMER not CORPOFANFuck companies, fuck devs, just give me games. Fuck the people behind them, GIVE ME GAMES
>>741456613The trees won't grow back if there are no more trees to reproduce with you stupid nigger
>>741469568>but you don't see hordes of them going out and smashing cars and shit or getting into irl fights frequently at game tournamentsAh. I see you're talking about niggerball fans. More specifically the New York Nigs who just won the championship and are the ultimate fanbase you'd expect that kind of shit out of.
modern vidya would rather spend money on motion capturing hollywood actors. rendering a videogame characters' nose hairs, and go on an activist rant than making a fun game. It lost its way and deserves to die
>>741469964Paris was in the middle of an open city wide riot that was started by a soccer win. Hockeyfags routinely burn down their towns after a win...or loss. >>741468858Are you retarded? Do you not understand why this is a bad thing? Or are you a field slave defending massa. Anon, they don't care about or know anything about games. It's just money, and a game to make more money and gain more clout. Their game is money and influence and games are a tool they will use. The only one on that entire board that gave even half of a fuck about games on any level or somewhat understood is that keebler elf foreskin muncher kottick.
>>741470405>a giant corporation exists to make moneyGolly gee anon no shit. Do you actually think a random software engineer would make a good CFO of a F500 company? Do you know what that entails? What a retard.
>>741470671Okay.And how has this giant corporation helped gaming and how is it making money now? You are a field slave defending massa hoping for an extra crumb from the table.
>>741470754>And how has this giant corporation helped gaming and how is it making money now? I'm not saying that Blizzard makes good games, I don't play that dogshit, I'm just saying that the original image is retarded and clearly made by someone lacking even basic knowledge of how corporations function.
>>741471086Everyone knows how corporations function.That's why we are pissed. We understand, that's why we are upset. Do you get it? You don't understand? You don't see why this is bad? I fucking explained to you why everyone is concerned. This isn't a fucking pop quiz on basic factoids. This is discussion of the actual subject a hand using actual understanding of said subject.
>>741456060>mfw cinematic third person moviegames starring Debra Wilson will stop being made
>>741455671This board will die along with the vidya industry. It's inevitable.
>>741471319>Everyone knows how corporations function. That's why we are pissed. You're pissed that somebody that knows what a balance sheet is is a CFO? It's just whining.
>>741471650>This board will die along with the vidya industry.>This board will die
>>741471650/v/ will be fine, the only hit may come from less paid shilling since the companies won’t be able to afford having some retard shill and do damage control for months
>>741471319He's upset his masters got exposed, that's all there is to it.
>>741455671>What can we do?Nothing. And that's exactly what you should do. Let it all burn. The second crash can't come soon enough.
>>741455671>now I'm watching the industry steadily go up in flames.ngl i feel it should be doing it faster
>>741455671Haven't you played an SMT game? The industry is going through a process of apocalyptic destruction, but will be gloriously reborn.
>>741455671>The video game industry is falling apart and I'm watching it happen in real time.Feels good man.When I was a kid and I played Deus Ex for the first time, I would wonder how awesome games would be 5, 10, 20 years from then, when computers become more powerful. What I got is moviegame slop for mentally challenged cattle.Burn it down.
Reminder that doomposters are depressed and pool irl.While richfags / content ppl don't care.It's undeniable that the state of gaming mirrors real life. Whether that's a bad thing or not I don't know.
>>741475285It's also hilarious that the people flooding the web with unironic obvious shilling are sub poor shills who worship the rich and think they are part of the big business. They'll be the first ones fired and or replaced by bots soon. Maybe we'll have decent conversations happening after and constant reports from the cock suckers will cease.
