I got meme'd. This whole series is dogshit. Battle Network fans, explain yourselves. I gave this shit an honest chance. I just finished playing BN 1-3 on the Legacy Collection and all three of the games, which at least 2 and 3 are supposed to be the "best" in the series, are all shit. Yes, the combat is decent, but even that comes with a huge asterisk when you come up against bullshit bosses. And decent combat alone doesn't carry the absolute shit that is everything else about the series. The net is a maze that is a chore to navigate without a separate map pulled up in your browser. Lan is a boring retard. The story is non-existent. The music is repetitive. I bought both BN Legacy Collections at the same time, but I'm not even going to bother with BN 4-6. Dropping this shit now and going to play better Mega Man games. If you like this shit series, please tell me what there is to like about it, because after 3 games, this is far worse than every other Mega Man series
>>741457735Fucking thisThe X series fucking rapes this dogshit
Play MM2 on NES, the zero series, and X1-X3 on SNES. give mm9-11 a try too. Only ones worth a shit.
>can't access the open net from your computer at home until you beat some kid so you can pass through his homepageWho the fuck is the service provider here, and why does my neighbor's shitty kid have control over my internet access?
>>741458312I've played all of the Classic series, all of X, all of Zero, both Legends, and several spinoffs. Battle Network and Star Force were really the last big gaps in my Mega Man playlist, which is why I'm playing them now. I'll probably move on to Starforce next, so lets hope those games are better>>741457878True, but it's hardly a fair comparison since X is the best series.
>>741458203How is he wrong faggot?
>>741457735BN5 is the best one.You want a good story you go for Starforce 1 and 3.And that's about all you need from megaman rpgs.
I love these games because the gameplay is so unique but you really shouldn't be playing these for more than 30 minutes a day. An hour tops. Otherwise it wears you down. Many of the scenarios are padded out to waste 8 year olds' time.If you played 3 and didn't like it I'd say it's fair to put it down. 6 has the best gameplay though
>>741457735>when you come up against bullshit bossesLet me guess, bubbleman?You have to beat him in under 2 minutes with an extrafolder in the secret time trial area to get serenade's chip and 100% the game btw
>>741459868>bubblemanWow. Well, I guess I'm not alone. Yes, Bubbleman is exactly who I was thinking of, but I deleted him from my post because I figured some faggot would greentext him and say how easy he is once you know the right strategy, and I just didn't feel like dealing with it. But yes, Bubbleman. To be fair, however, he's not alone. Most of the bosses in these games have bullshit attached to them, the worst of which are the invincible walls and barriers that they love to give many of the bosses. Thunderman comes to mind. As does Bass and his constantly regenerating barrier, though I suppose he does get a pass for being Bass.
>>741457735>Yes, the combat is decent, but even that comes with a huge asterisk when you come up against bullshit bosses.>the storyI want to call you a retard for even mentioning the story but it seems you also got filtered by the combat. I mean “bullshit” bosses? These are the game with guts shoot in 1, gater and attack+ in 2 and fucking flashman/plantman stun lock with free ice stage in 3, flashman is also the first FIRST boss.
>>741460284You're supposed to use those stone cubes and other chips to block all the bubbles. But the only other bullshit boss I can think of is Drill Man. The fucker requires slasher. Bass, directly followed by Alpha, felt like it was impossible. But then Shake II came in like that black guy in the suit meme. It's literally perfect for those two. I don't know how you could have too much trouble with guys like Flameman, though. Even if you don't know that holes just make all his attacks not happen, he's a fire Navi. Just slap some bubblers and gels in that folder of yours.
>>741460284>bubblemanYour flashman??
>>741460895*other object chips
>desertmanthe fuck they didn't just call him "sandman" ?
>>741460916Flashman wasn't bullshit at all. Bubbleman hides in the back like a pussy. I don't think the bosses in BN are bad at all and OP is just mad cuz bad, but Bubbleman is fucking annoying.
>>741461425NO he's saying you should've used the Flashman chips. They alone are what makes F code in 3 so good.
>Israel has a right to defend itself, Lan
>>741460916Flashman is easy. Did people really have trouble with him?
>>741463229S-ranking him is a tad bullshit since if you don't have a barrier when he does that stun move, it counts as a stagger.
>>741457735Clearly, you aren't busting hard enough.
>>7414577356 is the best actually.
>>741461559Yep, figures. Fagtron.OP wasn't busting hard enough.Really wish more navi fights were puzzles instead of "use weakness to win" ordeals. You know, like Protoman, Thunderman, Snakeman, Desertman, Bubbleman, and Drillman. Shademan from 4 was cool, too.
>>741457735You fell for the 3fag meme2 and 3 are objectively shit, but this board is filled with people who played those two specifically when they were 8 so they overrate them to hell, then they grew out of the series so they ignore the latter ones6 is greatJust skip to it and never listen to nostalgianiggers again
>>741463382>staggerFuck off soulstard.
>>741458312All of the classic games are decent at worst. X 1-6 is the same but 7 is liquid shit, never played 8. Still have Z, ZX and Legends left to do, no interest in the RPGs.
if we can have proper pokeclones with none of the bullshit we can have proper bnclones with the same but indieshits insist on turning it into a fucking rogueshite like webm rel every single fucking goddamn timewhy
>>741459372In Mega Man Star Force, you can die crab
>>741464009It's a shame they backpedaled on the best combo system in Star Force 3 and replaced it with galaxy advances.
>>741463940One day I'll make a bn clone, with a mix of wizardry, bombs and guns. I'll be great.
>>741457735Only 5 and 6 are good, 1 is practically unplayableThe only people who like 2 and 3 played it when they were 10
>>741464104Let's hope that yours doesn't end up in the hall of infamy or end up cancelled like Exflora World.
>>7414641383 has the best post game and best bosses. Darkman, Japanman, Serenade, Mistman, Bowlman, Punk
>>741464138I played 2 in 24 and enjoyed it quite a lot.
>>741457735you are gay and retarded.*deletes you*
>>741464225shanghai the goat
>>741457735Come home.
>>741457735Even my dumbass 9 year old self made it nearly to drillman without help from the internet or a guideyou'd need a picture book to even begin to understand the appeal
>>741465381
>>741465483Is it black end galaxy or blackened galaxy?
>>741457735>th…the hard bosses>you need a map for the mazesJust fucking kill yourself zoomer. JFC what a pathetic subhuman generation. Just type “I’m dogshit at video games.” Journalist tier bitch.
>>741457735Anon, I started with 3 and played a new title each year when it came out. I didn't start with 1 and I'm aware of just how rough the game was as their first entry where they were figuring things out. The below are my favorite themes from the MMBN soundtrack overall, all from MMBN3.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg61DWzNsgwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Af1VID13rUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVGLWZoTxMEThe excitement for the MMBN series come down to how novel and unique the gameplay is even 20 years later with no indie developer successfully replicating and creating a successful RPG series with, the setting predicting today's world so well and the potential for a new saga using today's technology. The story is passable and the arcs and gameplay outside of the battle system are passable but not what anyone focuses on.
>>741465856>I GET BIG MAD WHEN PEOPLE DON'T LIKE GAMES I LIKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I SIMP FOR BAD GAME DESIGN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>741457735well yes, it's a series carried by nostalgia
>>741457735Skill issue.
>>741458312>Play MM2 on NES>onlyPoser detected.
>>741466236>I can't navigate around small simplistic maps in a game made for children>this is bad designbro got got filtered by the one way conveyor belt puzzles in the beach area
>>741466705It's "made for children" in the sense that it's an intentionally confusing maze filled with random encounters every 5-10 seconds to keep kids busy on their Game Boys during car rides. Yes.
>>741457735>battle network fans have no response to this besides "skill issue"Complete BNfag BTFOThey will NEVER recover from this TRVKE
Gotta say, I kinda hate the two protagonists thing it has going on. Why not just have one Lan Hikari who goes by Mega Man on the net?I mean, I know it was made as a competitor to Pokémon and Yu-Gi-Oh and all, but still.
>>741457735That's why you play the spiritual successor that builds upon the combat.
>>741457735skill issue.
>>741467085I mean, that just means the series is normalfag repellent, which is a good thing.
>>741467257How can you hate that? As in, I really can't get why that's a bad thing. Or what combining them provides? They did that in the anime's later seasons, and it made it all feel more generic.
>>741467530Mega Man does all the shit while Lan is just... out there being a retard. You could argue that he does awesome stuff like pic related as well, but that could've been a Lan who is Mega Man, you know?
>>741457735Go into a BN thread and ask which games you should skip and you will basically be told to skip all of them
the big part for me was choosing a letter and creating a deck out of itnot the combat
>>741463940thats shanghai eguze
>>741461559f has the rat program advance in it too
>>741467346>instead of building a deck with synergy you delete your whole deck and spam 1 or 2 busted cards over and overno that's dumb
ZX isn't that bad, come on
>>741461346>hurr durr the Navi made of frosting should be called sandman instead of dessertman
>>741465941>that navicust themekino. the later ones sound like ass.
bnfags always conveniently seem to leave out that 80-90% of their entire games are just fetch quests and backtracking.
>6 sets up secondary elemental weakness cycle>Only for your crosses, not for any virusesAAAAAA
>>741467718But the duos thing is cool and better sells the two worlds aspect. If you played as a kid who jumped between the cyber and real worlds, it would just feel like 2 parts of a big one instead of 2 separate but connected ones. And Lan does plenty of stuff in the real world. The dead brother is locked in the Blackberry. Most importantly, he's the guy who handles the arsenal. It's just not as fantastical, since he's the living brother in the real world.And let me reiterate, navis being separate characters instead makes it more unique. There are just more parts to play with when making new operators and navis when they aren't just avatars. Instead of a basic superhero deal, there's this thing where most of the cast are part of teams with their own dynamics. There's a reason even though Star Force made the mistake of removing Navis, the aliens are substituting them. But only for good guys. All the evil ones manipulated their humans.
>>741469314Elemental weaknesses were a stupid idea, especially for a series that has its roots in Mega Man. I'd rather exploit enemy patterns and choose my chips accordingly.
>>741468990I only ever played red sun but I fucking loved that game, beat NG+ like twice over. I think I hit a skill wall around the 3rd NG
OP should play BN4it sold the most so that means it's the best one :)
>>741469426>Elemental weaknesses were a stupid idea, especially for a series that has its roots in Mega Man.Nigger the basis of Mega Man weapons is exploiting weaknesses for enemies and bosses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_g63yl8OUk
>>741469426>Elemental weaknesses were a stupid idea, especially for a series that has its roots in Mega Man.Anon...Elemental weakness was literally always a part of megaman.
>>741469426If this is bait, well done.
>>741470059>>741470102>>741470132Elemental weaknesses were always a bonus for using weapons that fit the boss most. For example, Metal Man being weak to Quick Boomerang. Metal Man does not jump to the other side when you stay within a certain distance. Quick Boomerang's max distance coincides with its maximum. There are many other examples across the classic series, but you all seem to be larping secondaries who know nothing of the series' roots.
>>741470343The series roots was always using weakness that makes sense in hindsight when you think about how they work with and against the RM you're fightingGuess what nigga. That includes elemental weaknesses. And if you're hating on BN for them then you have to go after something like zero as well because elemental weakness ALSO make up the weakness system in those games
>>741470343Weapons are not only used for bosses, enemies also have specific weapons that they are weak to and will die in one hit and has been the case always. Mega Man 11 made this even more obvious with enemies bursting into purple flames when hit with their weakness. But of course you won't know that because you're a retard.
I have a weakness to empress Roll
>>741470464I fucking loathe Zero for doing the same, so that's that too.
>>741470475Sorry, I didn't play Mega Man 11 because it's getting too close to the non-classics(X, Z, ZX) for my liking.
>>741457735I played them back when I was a kid, and they just didn't age well
I feel like I should play the RPGs at some point but I just find the whole setting so unappealing. I don't want Mega Man to have some kid sidekick, I hated what ZX did as well
>>741472536fucking pokeshit and digishit rubbing off my mega man
>>741472536So, do you just hate the kid, or is the internet thing also lame to you?
>>741473087I can't say I'm a fan. Net-navi's in general just don't appeal to me at all
Reminder we will NEVER EVER get a game about the Alpha Revolt, the darkest era in the entire Mega Man franchise.
>>741473209Oh, that sucks. I think they're cool both in concept and as designs.>>741473546That's for the best. Backstories should stay backstories.
>>741473546>the darkest era in the entire Mega Man franchise.Maybe in BN, but really it was just sealing Alpha and attempting to kill Bass. It's nowhere near as fucked up as the Elf Wars.
>>741457735>Yes, the combat is decent, but even that comes with a huge asterisk when you come up against bullshit bosses.>The story is non-existent.>The music is repetitive.huh you're making it sound like more of a megaman game than it ever looked like to me
For me, BN peaked at Network Troonsmission. Rented it from Hollywood video the same time I got Simpsons Skateboarding.
>>741473608Except it lead to the destruction of the known internet and the death of every Navi and program minus B ass, and set the world back by over half a year.They were only able to seal Alpha because it won.The Elf Wars had mass death, but it didn't lead to the entire destruction of a world.
>>741473739What a weird tick to out yourself as an election tourist.
>>741473801They way it's described it doesn't seem like the internet was down long. Also aside from Megaman, navis aren't people like humans or reploids.
>>741473546tbdesu id rather see a copybot cataclysm game
>>741473878Meds.
>>741473906>Implying Navis don't act like people anyway where people would get attached to them, even the default models.
>>741457735I like the chip system. I like the robot and virus designs. Especially when there is good synergy between the navi and the operator. Admittedly, there is a nostalgia element, but the whole digital world element (for the time) was exciting and realized decently.BN1 and 2, yeah, the story isn't much to write home about. BN3 however I liked a lot of elements in that. Chaud's dynamic with his dad, Mamoru, Dex leaving town, the guilt trip Lan has after burning SciLab. It's simple, but effective. And then all the games have extensive post-games for you to really play with the battle mechanics.
>>741473928Copybots felt like jumping the shark in the battle network world. It enters the world of science fantasy. 1-5 depicted believable worlds, everyone has a custom chatgpt in their pocket but still ride trains. Then in 6 it's like, yo we got casual flying sky trains
>>741457735Should've played star force instead like any sane person would
>>741476304copybots are just robots wearing bn2 cybersuits
>>741476821I just looked it up because of this thread. Star Force is a grid-based card battler too? Similar to Battle Network? wtf. Why is this its own series when it's so similar?
>>741478393Same reason why X is its own series outside of classic Mega Man.
>>741478393Because it's about aliens and Punch Out-type gameplay
>>741473209What would you have preferred instead?
>>741457735I just really hate how chip codes are so limiting. In theory, they're a great way to incentivize strategy. Can't just use AnalBlaster 3 without thinking, maybe AnalBlaster 2 has a better code for your current build. That sort of thing.In reality, this just makes most chips you find worthless. Unless it's some Plantman tier shit, you're not gonna remake your entire load-out to accomodate one new attack, and swapping things in and out constantly is a pain in the ass. You have a second folder slot, which should allieviate the problem, except chips can't exist in both at once. Have some chips you like carrying around as staples? Gotta swap 'em around every time.It's like if Press was a part of the core gameplay, rather than just a millstone exclusive to BN3.
>>741481198Me too. I’d prefer an energy system like hearthstone, really.
>>7414577354 is the best one because it's actually fun, and you're all faggots for repeating the same NPC memes.>b-b-but I hav to replay it boohoo ;((So? Replaying a good game is a good thing.
>>741457735>>741457878BN is way better than X because you don't have to fight the same bald ass faggot at the end in every game.
>>741481198I kinda agree. But the feeling of that useless chip eventually becoming usable because you got enough L codes makes it worth it for me. The part about not being able to put a chip in two folders at once is annoying, but there's probably a reason for that. I can go without area steal in every battle.
>>741481523holy grindbraini bet you used to put your life savings into x dive
>>741481559Mother fucker don't slander me like that. But you're right, I do like Monster Hunter.
>>741457735lil buddy needs a map and checkpoints to tell him what to dojust play your new fotm soulslop
>>741474029I don't think navis had human DNA mixed in them until well later
>>741480379If it has to be network based then drop the real world entirely
>>741482130Gutsman, Roll, Glide and all the other navis didn't have human DNA, but they were still friends with their operators.
starting a new BN game sucks every time because they always assume that you're a newbabb who hasnt played a game before and it takes ages to unlock the given games special gimmick.
>>741481198>chip codes are so limitingboy do i have a game for you
>>741485107>you can only select in a vertical line except for the third gameNot sure if it's better or worse.
I'm still going through 2 but I'm not liking it nearly as much as 1, random encounters are slightly less cumbersome but the bosses is 2 just suck ass and the story is just random shit happening without any cohesion whatsoever
>>741457735>bullshit bosses.I'm not normally a fan of "git gud", but this is a legitimate case of git good. The main game's not hard at all if you have even a half decent folder, and you don't really need to grind to get half decent.
>>741467257>Why not just have one Lan Hikari who goes by Mega Man on the net?Play the game.
>>741457735I only played the first two, but I was pretty disappointed. The combat is novel and does a good bit of heavy lifting, but the Lan sections are a complete bore. I think it was the lead-up to Quick Man in BN2 but there's a section in that game where you go through screens leading to the campsite Lan is headed to and each one has a 'puzzle' that is basically a micro-fetch quest and each one is so fucking boring. I feel like you have to give yourself over to the characters and narrative to enjoy these games because you play as Lan for a pretty good bit of them and all he can do is interact and jack-in, and seeing as the latter makes it so you're no longer playing as him, that means that segments where you do play as him leave you with nothing to do but going around talking to NPCs and interacting with parts of the environment which is really dull when you don't give a shit about what the NPCs have to say. It's normal for JRPGs to have safe areas of a kind where you're just interacting in this way, but most JRPGs don't feel some kind of obligation to dedicate time to these sequences like it feels BN does because in BN's case they want you to feel like you're doing stuff as Lan, even if Lan is incapable of doing anything interesting.
Kinda fucked up how so many people hate the two-character scheme.
>>741487296Lan is redundant.
>>741457735>I played through three games I hatedSo you're retarded and an unfit judge of quality.
>entire thread is bnfags admitting their games suck assholy humiliation ritual
>>741469781Most people played MMBN4 due to the hype MMBN3 received which carried momentum in the form of word of mouth anticipation for the launch of MMBN4.
>>741487296who wants to play as a lame human in a MEGAMAN GAME
>>741469962>that immediately drop off after 4How bad of a company are you when you fuck up that hard and traumatize your players?
>>741467839Capcom dmcad this, it deserves to be on steam everyone who bought pragmata betrayed loli
I miss BN so much. None of the attempts to replicate what made it so good have even come close to succeeding.
>>741490387its interesting to think that it was already recovering if 6's sales are anything to go by. wonder how things would have gone if capcom stayed the course instead of trying to do star force.
>>741491727Didn't Capcom patent literally everything about it?
is this the thread?
>>741492953>6 games of pure slop in a row with declining sales after each gameyeah sure bnbro it TOTALLY wouldve bounced back
>here's your bn7 brohttps://youtu.be/hzwdzWrAmgQ
did the new collection even break 500k copies yet
>>741487296When Lan isn't being a dull, boring character, he's being a retard who is literally messing things up so that the plot can move forward. It's kind of easy to hate him. Most of the plot of 2 and 3 only happens because Lan actively helps the bad guys
>>741457735What were you expecting? It's a game made for children
>>741485851The main game isn't hard overall, but there are several difficulty spikes along the way that come from bad, gimmicky boss design. Sticking your boss behind an infinite stream of bubbles while he hides on the back row and spams a bunch of bullshit at you is not good boss design. Neither is having them hide behind two invincible clouds, or the numerous other boss fights that hide behind invincible walls. At that point, it's not about having a "half decent folder" as you claim. Instead, it's about going through and building a deck specifically to counter that boss.
>>741497534Truth nuke
>>741497534The more major concern is how Mr. Match keeps getting out of prison after committing multiple terrorist crimes
>>741501178how does he do it?
>>741457735I like it because I had fun
>>741488851you are a complete retard
>>741502581meme buzzword
>>741488748it's the Etrian Odyssey routine>game comes out>"THIS IS THE GREATEST GAME EVER" >everyone else thinks it's shit>"NO FUCK YOU SKILL ISSUE IT'S PERFECT AND WITHOUT FLAW" >next game comes out>"ok so the first game was unplayable dogshit but the new one fixes all the issues and is a genuine 10/10!" -same guy who told you the previous one was legitimately perfect>next game comes out>"ok so the last game was unplayable garbage but..." >series concludes and stops getting games>"alright so basically 90% of it is shit, you really wanna skip to these couple of games which are good I promise"
BN4 is misunderstood for being too comfy
just now i was just checking how to start the franchisewtf anddoes the order of those games matter at all?
>>741457878>>741457735brown opinions
>>741503871It's the easiest to 100%, just relax and play the game casually and in 30h or so it's fully donefor example, the meme about it being a nightmare to complete because "Dude if you miss a single chip on lap 2 you're FUCKED out of 100%!" is the best example of people not playing the game and just repeating memes they saw on 4chinthere's a 15 chip trader at the end of the 3rd loop that literally ONLY gives you the chips you don't have so you just dump all the dupes you've acquired and you easily complete the library it's genuinely retard-proof
>>741503992yes.
>>741473739I still have the bonus disc that came with the game that had the animes first episode
>>741503992>over 130 titlesI'm sure a lot of that is counting spinoffs (soccer) and ports (i.e. many of the classic Mega Man games are on NES, Game Boy, and even PC. They must be counting each of those separately), and probably even slop like mobile titles. There really aren't that many "real" Mega Man games, and no, the order doesn't really matter. Each series is mostly self-contained, and while there are hints and timeline theories that seek to link all of the series together, each series is mostly separate so you really aren't going to miss anything no matter where you jump in. Your best best for starting is to just pick a series (Classic, X, Battle Network, etc.), start with the first game in that series, and just move through in order.
what the shit is the difference between megaman, megaman x and megaman zero?
>>741504475zero comes first, that's why it's called 0 it's a prequelx is the last one because the x stands for 10 in roman numerals
>>741504475Different characters, for one. Classic Mega Man is just classic Mega Man. Mega Man X takes place in the future and follows "Mega Man X", who is a new and different Mega Man. Zero takes place even further in the future and stars Zero.
>>741504405thank youmy idea is release order anyway but still was wondering
>>741457735Holy shit fucking neo-/v/ is real. I'm sorry zoomie that you can't learn to memorize a fucking map as simple as the net in BN3.>m-muh undernet tho!Yeah you mean the place you get access to near the end of the game? Its supposed to be confusing you absolute faggot. Not to mention you can just use sneakrun if you really are that dogshit at busting. >The story is non-existentLow quality bait at its finest.>>741460284Bubbleman is supposed to be the first wall in the game. He is designed to teach players to actually switch up their strategy for a fight, and prioritize chips that can effectively hit back row. Look faggot just admit your bad and have shit taste its fine. Many Indians also like to consume piles of shit too.
>>741502616you didn't exist back when it first released.
>>741503992Get the BN legacy collection and play 2 or 3. I started the series with 3. It was fabulous.
>>741504616but it came out at the same time as 7
>>7415062398 and 9 just never came out outside of japan, that's why they skipped to X in americain fact megaman 7 is actually rockman 9 in japan
>>741457735The best game isn't in the collection
>>741506171none of your headcanon makes sensewhy wasn't there a massive drop after the first week sales if it was all hype? why did it have such strong legs?why has your retarded logic never been replicated in this series (mm3 sold less than 2 yet by your logic it should have sold much more due to "le positive word of mouth") or any other series?and the kicker: you start from a false premise (the good reception to 3 leading to...)3 was negatively received at the time, receiving LOWER scores across the board than 2, and before you cope, it was not just in the west but japan tooyet you have to twist yourself into a pretzel to cope that your darling 3 was so heccin good it massively impacted the rest of the seriesor, the more believable scenario: people were getting tired of the exact same slop after 3 games, so a completely new look, lots new gimmicks like double soul and two versions (3black in japan was just an update), and the anime reaching peak popularity all made 4 seem like a refresh and pop off
>>741493015Most of the patents were myths or expired eons ago
Looking for someone with the BN Collection (Switch), I need some help with BN6 secret chips or even getting some pvp matches to farm Cross Over points.
>>741506764its just classic megaman with super moves. decent looking
>>741457735Skill issue
opinions on the wonderswan sidescroller?
>>741473739>>741506764basado tastehttps://youtu.be/H1ktZwfDaI0
>>741457735The Deck Building Aspect was a product of its time. I think there should have been a more traditional Mega Man RPG like Final Fantasy.
>>741512851>Mega Man RPG like Final Fantasy.They already made that for the X series and it sucked.
>>741507098>or, the more believable scenario: people were getting tired of the exact same slop after 3 games, so a completely new look, lots new gimmicks like double soul and two versions (3black in japan was just an update), and the anime reaching peak popularity all made 4 seem like a refresh and pop offAnon, you'd expect to see growth from the sales of MMBN4 but it cratered. MMBN4 is the black sheep of the series for a reason. Also, this was a series with a yearly launch installment (though it was supposed to end with BN3). This is what I meant by the word of mouth carrying over to the launch sales of MMBN4. People knew the next game was coming out, MMBN3 was raved about so it brought people's eyes on MMBN4. >3 was negatively received at the time, receiving LOWER scores across the board than 2, and before you cope, it was not just in the west but japan tooAnon, I saw Mega Man BN3 in the store and bought it. That's what many of us did back in the day. We were nowhere near as connected to the internet as now, and the general populace didn't care about scores. More importantly, what created the insane word of mouth was the endgame content. Reviewers move on after the credits scene.
>>741481198It's retarded that the same chip can't be in two folders
>>741512930kys
>>741493517MY FUARKING HERO... and geo, I guess
>>741503528I don't think people say to skip any mainline EO other than maybe the original versions of 1 and 2, seeing as people tend to prefer Untold.
>>741463824>>741457735I played 2/3/4 when I was a kid and loved them. Does 3 really not hold up? Which ones are actually great games without nostalgia holding them up and which are shit?
>>741513975As someone who replayed it recently, Press sucks, but it's still very fun. The game has a lot of unique chips, and only Bubbleman pissed me off.
>>741467085sick fuckgot the one with lan getting his arm chopped off?
>>741503528I've only played EO4 and the untolds, loved em.
>>741514103bubbleman is definitely the hardest of the first navi's you fight in the games.
>>741457735I like it.
>>741469962>white ver & Blue Ver>but the white version was just the beta testHow did they get away with this?
>>741493663>declining sales after each gameReading, let alone counting, must be hard
>>741514103I'm replaying 3 with legacy collection mods and I feel so free not having to put in press anymore
>>741514352>the easiest robot master of the classic series becomes one of the hardest in Battle NetworkWhat went so wrong/right?
>>7414577352 and 6 are the best ones, I don'tunderstand why 3 gets sucked off so much, but yeah if you can't put up with the backtracking then its not gonna be fun for you.
>>741460284BN3 has the worst boss fights in the series, just ignore the nostalgiablind BN3tards that will insist otherwise.
>>741466236I’m not even mad. You’re are a dumb cunt that is incapable of playing video games. Go write for Kotaku dumb nigger and kys. Like that bitch ass journalist that got beat by the bird on cup head.
oh, just turns out you have bad taste then. If you didn't have any fun by the time you finished 2, you should have been smart enough to recognize that this just wasn't for you.
>>741460284There are 16 year old Buster only runs on YouTube. Definitive skill and pattern recognition issues. You may unironically be mentally handicapped.
>>741516181>some autistic loser who devoted his entire life to a single game can beat it with a basic weapon, without taking damage, and without other beneficial gameplay mechanics>therefore it's not challengingI hate this line of dishonest, faulty "logic"
>>741516625yeah well, you need help eating soup if you think mega man 2 is hard.
>>741457735Nah it's good.
>>741516673oh, I'll accept that I'm a fucking retard for forgetting this is a battle network thread.I may be a retard, but I'm still better at video games than (you).I will retire to my shame.
>>741516721which bass fight is the funniest?
>>741516741Good. Now make sure you get some help eating your soup. Wouldn't want you to burn yourself, retard
>>741515087Turned his cowardness to the maximum
>>741516846Probably this one.
>>741513341>Anon, you'd expect to see growth from the sales of MMBN4 but it cratered.because 5 was the same shit yet again with no changes in visuals or gameplay from 4 and the DS was already out by this time making it look even more overdone, so people noped out of the seriesAnd still, you fail to provide a reason why the game kept selling long term after thr initial release if it was all hypeWhy did it take until 5 for this effect to happen? The same guy who was hyped for 4 because he heard his friends raving about 3 waited a whole year to buy it and didn't hear those same guys tellling him that the new one is shit? And again, the premise of "there were hordes of people itching to buy the new one because (allegedly lol) 3 was so good" makes zero senseWhy wouldn't those same people... just buy 3 if they heard such good things about it? >W-Well no they can only buy the next oneOk, then why didn't they buy 3 black? It came out half a year after 3, and it's even better than 3, surely it sold gorillions since there were so many people who didn't buy 3 but were hungry for the next game? Oh? It sold fucking nothing? Well golly geeI don't argue that 4 is shit and 3 is good, but this embarrassing shit always feels so fucking pathetic, it's like 3fags are trying to attribute themselves 4's sales so they can cope their way into being the best seller as a way to legitimize it in their minds as the best oneInstead of accepting that a bad game outsold their darling because of circumstances unrelated to game quality, a very common occurrence
>>741516925so this is how the most powerful navi grieves
>>741516858Hey buddy, I may be retarded, but I can still beat mega man 2 with ease. I'm fucking stupid but I can still eat my soup just fine, by my own words.
>>741516925>AIIIEEEEE KAKAROCK I GIVE
It's weird how full synchro in 6 is just objectively better in all cases than using the Crosses.
>>741517096Double damage is an insanely good benefitProbably why starforce opted for random cards/super moves
>>741463940OSFE is kino tho
i have a habit to save a lot of zenny just to buy unlockers and the best battle chip/battle card for the main story. i sure did replaying mmbn 5 with team protoman double team ds. is it a bad habit? i'm currently hording over 50000 zenny mid game in starforce 3 to get the giga card.
>>741515692>a day later>still seethingHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>741517845Looking smooth
>>741504123That wasn’t in the giver336 let’s play, though!
>>741517795Not to mention that it has actual combos instead of getting interrupted by enemy invincibility frames all the time.
>>741515085>>741514103what's press
When i tried these games a while ago, I thought they were boring as fuck. The combat seemed interesting but the story is sooooo slow and shit.
why do BN fags immediately become hostile at the slightest implication that their games may have flaws?
>>741465941based and (You)ing this post that couldve been mineMMBN3 onwards is great (except 4 lol) and 2 is actually fairly worthy I finally played it last year
>>741457735>Yes, the combat is decent, but even that comes with a huge asterisk when you come up against bullshit bosses.sounds like someone hasn't developed fine motor control or pattern recognition yet>The net is a maze that is a chore to navigate without a separate map pulled up in your browser.lacking object permanence, I see>Lan is a boring retard.must not be able to read yet, since Lan and Mega Man have some pretty great banter at times>The story is non-existent.See aboveconclusion: OP is a literal, actual baby. or babyman.exe, rather
>>741520874Something like the Pokémon HMs but worse, since the place you equip it in, the navi customizer, is some sort of block puzzle nightmare that must be vastly reconfigured every time you want it installed.
>>741521857they are autistic please understand
i played bn2it was shiti played a bn6 romhackit was also shitmy conclusion is that outside of the boss fights battle network fucking sucks
>>741513926>seeing as people tend to prefer Untold.never say this in an EO thread for your own good, fren
so bn5 is the best one coming from this thread?
>>741524093I wish it had a normal virus curve
>>741457735>I just finished playing BN 1-3 on the Legacy CollectionPeople really need to stop playing 1 on GBA or the LC, I have no idea why anyone does it. Operate Shooting Star is right there and as long as you ignore playing as Geo it's objectively the definitive edition of 1 that irons out many of its issues.
>>7415240933 or 6 are the best. 2 and 5 are good and 1 and 4 are not very good.
>>741524093No, it still has 4 retardation in it.
>>741522651is that the thing with like Undershirt etc
>>741516970>And still, you fail to provide a reason why the game kept selling long term after thr initial release if it was all hypeHow long do you think it takes for word of mouth to kick in back in 2004 to crater the sales of a game? Information moved much slower anon. People took the time to play the game and were underwhelmed. >>741516970>And again, the premise of "there were hordes of people itching to buy the new one because (allegedly lol) 3 was so good" makes zero sense>Why wouldn't those same people... just buy 3 if they heard such good things about it?Why buy this game that everyone says is awesome when the next title is about to come out? Yes, these questions are asked and people will think "hmm, this game is said to be amazing and it's sequel is coming out, so I'll wait for it to come out".>I don't argue that 4 is shit and 3 is good, but this embarrassing shit always feels so fucking pathetic, it's like 3fags are trying to attribute themselves 4's sales so they can cope their way into being the best seller as a way to legitimize it in their minds as the best oneYou don't argue that 4 was shit but then you say this:>>Anon, you'd expect to see growth from the sales of MMBN4 but it cratered.>because 5 was the same shit yet again with no changes in visuals or gameplay from 4 and the DS was already out by this time making it look even more overdone, so people noped out of the seriesYou don't think 4's underwhelming experience had an effect on MMBN5's sales? And the DS didn't have a strong launch either. People were still playing their GBAs, and mind you, the DS could also play GBA games and graphical upgrades wasn't the DS' selling point so that's not a factor against the MMBN series.
>>741501982>>741501178The better question is how did he survive going brain dead after he used the full synchro with the pulse transmission and had his mind deleted.
>>741524476Yep.
>>741508780Only have the collection on Steam. The niggerfaggots at Capcom are insane for making the BN and SF collections without crossplay.
>>741457735Filtered
>>741463552Um actually Shanghai Genso Network is the best one
>>741481459True, instead you have to log 40 hours per game on a drawn out handheld series that revolves around heavy asset reuse since the first game, took the retarded pokemon route for no reason, includes unnecessary postgame restrictions, has a middling story and the entire franchise takes place within 1 year, eliminating any lasting consequences of actual character development. But at least we don't fight a bald guy!
newfags to bn discover what fans have known for over 20 yearsmore at 11
>>741528054when is battle network 11?
>>741525856>Why buy this game that everyone says is awesome when the next title is about to come out?Why not buy this game that everyone says is awesome?Such an obvious question you still can't come up with a logical answer to, instead opting for cope after cope because you know at it's very core it makes no senseAnd even if this moon logic were true, the "next title about to come out" was 3 black, which people did not buyWhy did you conveniently leave out that part?
>>741473739that game difficulty made me first mad then made me lose my shit,weirdest experience ever but i still recommended it
>>7415286287 8 10
>>741529520Only game where gutsman can fuck you up
Too much bashing and not enough building. How would you people disillusioned with Mega Man Battle Network improve upon the formula?
>>741530047mayl spinoff
>>741530047luna crossover
>>741530047Starforce is a good example, but BN is very unique in its execution that trying to alter it would change what it was. I mean how the fuck WOULD you improve it? They made 6 fucking games that have the same type of gameplay, they just switched out mechanics. It's like Street Fighter 2 all over again. So I guess the only way would be a reboot that utilizes some similarities of the past games while being something that actually moves the series forward. But naturally it would bring a lot of detractors who cry that their precious franchise isn't the same anymore, despite how objectively limiting it was built as on accident... >>741530107Kill yourself. >>741530123Kill yourself.
>>741530047>single protagonist who jumps between worlds, or just a single world, full stop>better world design; battle network 6 was heading in the right direction, but even more distinct environments with proper landmarks and such would be preferred>a better story, even standard jarpig fare would be better than the ones in the games that you have to turn your brain off to just tolerate>remove retardedly restrictive code system and replace it with something like what’s been suggested by >>741481419>or maybe remove deck building shit entirely and turn it into a standard action rpg
>>74153061580% of that is just Star Force. Though it keeps the dual protagonist thing. Because why remove that?
>>741524093No it sucks. S code is significantly better than the others for the entire game. Viruses are like bn4 and are locked to v1 for your entire playthrough, though you at least don't need to run ng+s to level them up. Liberation missions are okay I guess.
>>741530820Omega-Xis got shafted hard after the first game, you know.
>>741531213>Omega-Xis got shafted hardby me >:3
>>741524093I really really really hate the code variety and folder building in 5. Abysmal.
>>741531213Yeah, I played them. But his presence in the sequels still elevates them.
>>741503528Every EO game is at least decent if a bit jank other than EOU 1+2BN the only truly bad one is 4 but 1 is extremely rough. So 2 bad games but that means 2/3 games are good which is more than most game series
>>741530615>>741530820SF3 in particular fits almost all of this. Also SF3 is fucking fantastic.
>>741504405Classic - 13 gamesX - 9 gamesZero - 4 gamesZX - 2 gamesLegends - 3 gamesWorld - 5 gamesBN - 9 gamessF - 3 gamesRandom classic spinoffs - 4 gamesRandom BN spinoff - 1 game That's 53 games by my count. Not counting Jane or gimmicky stuff like the Dos or sRPG games
>>741481459>>741527870>BN is good because you don't fight the same bald guy every game................ YOU JUST FIGHT SOME MONSTER THAT WORKS FOR THE BALD GUY INSTEADIT BROKE NEW GROUND! I APPLAUDED IT FOR BEING DIFFERENT!
>>741531646It’s a damn shame that it had to come out after the shitshow that was Star Force 2.
>>741503992Grab either MM1 or MMBN 1. Those two are a bit jank, but each starts one of the timeline. For classic go Classic -> X -> Zero -> ZX -> Legends For BN it's just BN -> StarforceThe different series don't really impact each other though and other than Navis and Robot Masters having some crossover the two timelines don't interact.
>>741531339I think only 2 is underwhelming since most of the time he is just there for banter with bits of relevance like eating the oopart 3 I would say is a middle ground where he has more relevance 1 is still the gold standard Though I would never say he has had a bad showing in a game
>>741506764>BestLol no. Decent though. Great foundation for a sequel that never came out. No the shitty wonder swan and phone game don't count
But what about battleship challenge?
>>741533809I thought I was missing something for years but nope the game is just a shitty auto battler where you hope you roll a good chip path
>>741463786i've almost never used the weakness system in BN the only time it crosses my mind is when I'm using certain styles or in BN4 and onwards case is to time things with full syncro or rage and even then its something i would have to go out of my way for
>>7415139752 and 3 are fine like other anon said Press fucking sucks donkey dick and needing to rearrange your whole navicust setup JUST FOR PRESS is the only fault I have with the game. As much as BN4 sucks they had the right idea with the C-Slider.
>>741457735>Lan is a boring retardare you a personafaggot?
>>741514806the average person wasn't gonna know the difference outside of some chip exclusives at first glance and capcom knew that and capitalized on it they gutted a lot of things like the jack in animations, navicust intro, to anyone going in blind they would be the same thing.
>>741530047MegaMan Network Transmission 2
>>741534930Same, wish the legacy collection added a press toggle or something.
>>741530396It could be updated like a lot of JRPGs. Core gameplay remains the same but make the battle grid bigger.Make the overworld and internet actual behind your character 3d thats fun to move around in. Like in neo twewy you boosted to run faster by pressing a button to the music. Multiple party members with their own decks.Minigame where you pet mets and raise them.
>>741535639>make the battle grid bigger
>>741534292if they were gonna port wonderswan games they should've done EXE WS instead of this but I can see why they went with it since they already have the assets there all they did was slap a border on the game screen and called it a day I'd imagine the other game would've required more work and they'd have to gut the chip system to 2 chips since theres less buttons on a gba
>>741535732What's the problem with that?
>>741535732New idea: the battles are chess on a chess board
>>741530047Shanghai did most of what I'd like. I felt like more codes in that game were viable for both mobs and bosses throughout the whole journey, which is already a huge plus.Inserting the Crimson Noise system from SF3 was also brilliant, since it means any virus can potentially drop something cool, and therefore being assaulted by random encounters becomes more enjoyable.I also can't think of any bosses there where half of your folder will just be randomly useless because of a gimmick you didn't see coming. That's mainly just a BN3 complaint, and I know some people don't mind that, but it bothers me because so much of your strategy can just be unuseable. It's not like you can't still fight even without an optimal set-up to exploit the boss, but it feels bad to get attacks that are worthless in this specific scenario without warning.So, if a BN7 can implement most of this, I'd be down.
>>741535978The stage being 4x4 alters the playstyle to a larger degree than you think it might. A 3x3 means that the motion to travel across the entire field is actually just a double tap motion, which most people can pull off successfully pretty well. A 4x4 means you need to triple-tap, a motion which most humans aren't used to doing and increases fatigue faster, especially given with how much the game likes to spam at you.In addition to the movement tech, it's also changes up the strategy for quite a few things as well. To start with, moving away from 3x3 means you now decentralized the field. There's no "middle square" to affect, and no real place to stand in to maximize the efficiency of your attacks. To start with, this immediately devalues a lot of chips/cards you can/would want to use, because now there's a huge area you can't affect by a 3x3 attack. The only way to get a full field attack (if I remember right) is with cards that just hit the whole field regardless of positioning.This means any attack that in MMBN would hit the "whole" enemy side had that as a strength, and the drawback was that it would necessitate you being drawn to the center square, making that the most predictable place to find you. Additionally, that square becomes the highest-value target, because damaging or blocking or targeting that would force you to move off-center and greatly reduce the value of your attack. In OSFE, to emulate a FF effect, you now just have to have it werk, making positioning pointless for those.Going even deeper into it, using a 4x4 also reduces the value of any land manipulation attack unless it does a FF effect. When you landstole 3 tiles, that had horrific implications to what was about to happen to you. When you land steal in OSFE, your enemy still has an insanely huge field to work with to the point where they might not even actually care.That's just a surface level scratch at just this one "superficial" change.
KNIJohn watching tourist. That faggot was the WORST thing to happen to the series' notoriety. It's ok OP, we know you really didn't play it.
>>741459153It was just a prank broNetOPS were already on the way anyway to remove it officially because some Mr Hertz complained about it blocking the road too.
>>741536394>That's just a surface level scratch at just this one "superficial" change.for a surface level scratch, it seemed fairly comprehensive. That was a good read.
>>741461346Terrified of Metallica's lawyers clearly
>>741536603Some small trannyloving youtuber isn't gonna magically rebrand the games' legacy, pipe down.
>>741536603I thought he liked most of the games
two new yaoi doujins on the nhentais, frens. we eating good tonight
>>741494890Okay wow, they could have not been more subtle about. Christ. Also>auto gameplayMiss me with that gay shit.
>>741457735No one says BN2 is the best. lmao.
>>741465019Thank you jannyman.
>>741524093Yes. DoubleSoul is the best mechanic in the BN series. It interacts with your folder the most and lets you easily change your gameplay in big ways whenever you want. The ability to change virus level is also great and the 3-turn limit in the liberation missions is the essence of the series.
>>741531163>>741531338Massive skill issue. Being unable to build a good folder is a you problem. Especially in BN5.
>>7415240933 and 6. 3 has the best story, 6 has the best gameplay.
>>741457735BN3 is definitely overrated fuck this game why did I buy this shit
>>741481198That's a bit of a misconception that comes from inexperience. Everyone thinks that way starting off but the best combos in the games come from multi-code folders and an autistic understanding of the game. But even for new players you can throw any chip into your folder to experiment without needing to build a new folder around it. (add one custom+ buff to get an extra chip slot in battle and you'll negate the biggest downside.)This vid isn't the one I'm trying to find but you can see that the combo comes from setup with codes Y and *, while the finisher comes from Z code.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqDe3mE61CY
>>741540909>it gets good after a decade vro
>>741536603I watched some of that guy's videos, in general he strikes me as a retard.
>>741523935I always see people prefer Untold in EO threads, they just insist that you never touch Story and only play Classic.
>>741541771You're bad dude. You can't figure out the system even just to the level that makes it enjoyable for yourself.
>>741540909Or you just Air Hockey him to death because Full Synchro is busted a fuck in BN4
>>741542447This is just a cool combo. You can do all kinds of different ones with all kinds of variety. This vid used a multi-code folder to do it too but it is not the vid I was thinking of. There are better examples that I'm not going to look for right now.
>>7415240933, 5 and 6 are all excellent. Beyond that, it's down to preference. 5 is my favorite and if you like the liberation missions it's very likely you'll at least rank it higher than 6, but 3 tends to be most people's #1.
>>741536603His videos are good, /v/ just loves to bitch about everything.
Is nu/v/ really filtered this hard by a game series I beat when I was barely 10 years old? Wtf?
>>741543880Yes and it's funny to see.
>>741469962Am I the only one that genuinely likes 4?>light on story, fun tournament theme>introduces souls>normalnavi and heelnavi fights>carries over the best ui design from 3 but with a nice recolor>laserman>nice expansive overworldAnd I did the x3 replay taking a few months break between each playthrough
>>741536603am I supposed to know who that is?
i wonder how a omega-xis prequel spinoff starforce game would work. any ideas?
I just wish Capcom would backport Star Force's cheats to Legacy Collection. Being able to adjust the combat/loot/encounter rates is a fucking god send for how fucking tedious it is to farm in the games or get around otherwise.
>>741544146I also like it. Even the free full synchro can be really cool. One time I got it with some real cinematic back and forth action. >Megaman dodges>then hits back>does it again >and one more time.>*bwing*> Full Synchro. It almost looked scripted
>>741457735>The story is non-existent. You'll come to appreciate the stories in 1-3 after you do 4. It's actually that much worse.
jacking off
Okay give it to me straight bros because I don't want to make a new thread for it. Is command mission worth playing?
>>741546180Its alright even if a bit average. If you like generic turn base rpgs and don't mind random encounters then go for it. Some of the nicest things about the game is you get to finally see and play in a 3D world of Megaman X's world or really just a good visual of X's world when its not always in disarray. I feel like if they had stuck with it like with BN series they would have improved a lot on the game.
>>741546496Okay fair shake, I hope it isn't too long or padded. I'll play it next
>>741546812I would look into the GCN vs. PS2 differences of the game. There was one that was drastically less tedious to play than the other (far lower encounter rates) and I can't remember which one.
thoughts on auto-brothers?
>>741546180if you like the X games it's a must play the combat system is pretty interesting, it does get a bit tedious with all the random encounters but that's to be expectedthere's a lot of cool stuff in it, world building and such, it's nice to have X and Zero actually talk to each other for example and you don't get that anywhere else, the original characters are also nice, it's just a bit sad that it's side game canon limbo and they never show up again anywhere else
Megamanchildren are not ready for this but the whole series is mid slop
>>741528686>Such an obvious question you still can't come up with a logical answer to, instead opting for cope after cope because you know at it's very core it makes no sense>And even if this moon logic were true, the "next title about to come out" was 3 black, which people did not buy>Why did you conveniently leave out that part?Because I bought 3 Blue at a whim. Black is Japanese and came out prior to the English releases. What medium was out there where Japanese were exchanging their sentiments with foreigners?
>>741549806fuck off with those filters
>>741551770>t. plays pixel games without crt filters
>>741457735Quickman in 2 made me seethe when I was a kid. I replayed when the collection came out not too long ago and styled on his ass.
>>741530047Make another X game instead
>>741465093Does the game pick up...? I got to the tank battle and genuinely kinda just got bored of the game being a rehash.
>>741535639See, I prefer Gregar, but I like Falzar's selection of Navis better. So I really wish you could just use Gregar in Falzar.
Classic Megaman and the X series are the only ones that are good. The rest is middling at best.
>>741465093Is it actually that good? I've always avoided it because it's a 2hu fangame.
>>741556024>I've always avoided it because it's a 2hu fangame.2hu fangames are always good, doing yourself a disservice, I don't even know anything about 2hu
>>741556140>alwaysBut yes they are usually good
>>741554032Only half of X is worth a shit. I'd rather play Zero 1-4 again than X5-X8.
>>741549806I made mine an old man and named him anon It was kinda funny
>>741466419Kys wabbiturds
>>741457735I had a vision for MMBN7 once>Lan's son Patch is a bully at school because his dad is a big shot and they're rich so he treats others poorly.>Realizes he's lonely. Even young teacher Cial or classmates Ciel depended which version, saw him having issues>Asks dad for his custom Navi.>Lan punishes Patch by giving X and Vile to his soon to be rival.>Patch gets depressed, feels betrayed etc.>Lan gives him Zero.exe instead. A virus turned navi in a reformatting experiment to try and solve the virus issues.>Patch and Zero.exe are both treated with mistrust. Other navis don't trust Zero because he was a virus.>Slowly learn to redeem themselves and save the world.>Megaman Battle Network Z (the 7 is inside the Z in the logo)
>>741556024Yes
>>7414689905 has cool themes but the liberation missions are dogshit. I've played both versions and some of the navis like medi are miserable to play as during them. I unironically prefer 4 even through the ng+
>>741468990You'd have to move BN6 down since Cross is a waste of time and baby mode
>>741468990>Starforce 2 as his favorite starforce gameAnon is too powerful
it's truly awful
>>741571038okay now THIS is what filtered looks like for sure
>>741571038kek
>>741457735>It's an JRPG but you don't get experience points!What fucking retard thought this up?
>>741571038>Both players are in wheelchairs BN if it was made for 2026 gamers
>>741573887Particularly brutal given how much backtracking there is and how often you'll end up going the wrong way if you aren't constantly using a map. It would be great to farm some XP while you're constantly being hit with random battles, but instead they just end up being a waste of time unless you're in an area with enemies that just so happen to have a chip that you want
>>741574141Almost made a yellow paint joke, but I remembered that BN3 actually does have that kind of design since a lot of areas have color coded pathways.
>>741573887Chips are the reward. You can build folders are use them as fodder for the chip trader. Money is valuable to.The reason it doesn't give exp is because it is a skill based game. You don't level up to get by. You git gud. Its basic Megaman stuff.
>>741575791Most chips are junk, especially if you're trying to actually build a competent deck around one or two codes. Enemy variety is also fairly low, so if you're stuck in an area where you don't need any of the chips that enemies are dropping, then you're basically getting nothing from battles. Chip trader is literal gacha shit. I can appreciate that BN is a "skill" based game and that they didn't want you to simply be able to grind and overlevel your way through problems, but chips are not a perfect solution
>>741575656Almost every game since 2 has that on some level Though 3 is the most obvious about it
>>741571038what cards are they using?
>>741578609=SUM() filter
>>741457735Because we like wandering around the Net and seeing the alternate take on Mega Man. Also, I don't think any of the bosses are bullshit they're pretty easy once you learn the Program Advances. Make a proper build and everything in the game is face roll really. There's a lot of nostalgia too, I don't think I would want to replay any of them today after playing them all as a kid. As for 4-6, 4 is really bad. It's just a tournament arc where nothing really happens until the very end. 5 has some unique mechanics and gameplay. 6 is actually a really strong end to the series and you might like it a bit more. Part of the charm of 2 and 3 is getting lost in the Net and being fascinated by the world itself. When these games released the internet was still not really as ubiquitous as it is today. The internet of the future vibes hit much harder if you played these games back then or grew up during that period. In many ways it's a product of its time and I think if you can put yourself in that time period mentally when playing, it really helps understand the games.
>>741579593What are your thoughts on starforce
>>741579848Nobody has ever thought about starforce.
>>741568320>the liberation missions are dogshit.Skill issue. They are my favorite gimmick/story missions of the series
>>741580120I love them too, but I'd sooner call it a Team Protoman issue.
>>741516970>5>no difference in gameplay from 4You didn't play the games lol
>>741580120I liked them until they introduced traps, then they became fucking lame.
>>741579848I have not played Starforce yet actually. Won't comment on it. I have the legacy collection sitting in my backlog just haven't gotten around to playing them yet. Never got to play the originals. By the time Starforce started I was about to graduate high-school and was deep in the World of Warcraft hole.
>>741581067You can redo missions after completing them for the first time, so just look at a map online when re-challenging them to circumnavigate titles that you want to avoid.
>>741580723>Play DTDS >Always switch out Meddy for toadman Good times
