Thoughts on guest characters in fighting games?
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thinking about going online with my wired connection for DBFZ for the first timecan anyone school me real quick on fighting game etiquettewhen can I tea bag a nigga
Guest characters cheapen any fighting game and it takes the mask off the greedy investors reaching for your pockets every time you see one.
>>741477223ATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATA
>>741477223wtf I can't believe Rock is fucking dead>>741477385best fatal fury is ff2 on the snes because it's the one I grew up with
we already have a thread nigga
>kagura holding charge while he uses his stances to schmove around this is genuinely my dream character
Random arcade streamshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rBml92f0dkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWE2ap75lmEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7bcUG_C2ys
The hands coming out before Ken starts punching looks fucking stupid.
>>741477294>Velvet will never be in a fighting gameIt hurts so much...
>>741477809you look fucking stupid
>>741477223One or three is acceptable. More than that? Cashgrab.
>>741477294TAROOOOO
>>741477392Do it whenever you want, but be prepared for the consequences if you lose after
>>741477223Kenshiro's gameplay didn't look all that bad, which surprised the fuck out of me. He's horribly out of place in that game, but w/e. We're long past thinking SNK and/or the saudi prince gives a single shit about theming.I think Tekken has had the most offensive, "what in the dick is that doing here" guest rosters of the "games that matter" though. MK's arguably worse, but if that series wasn't being full-out double-shit-sandwich retarded, it wouldn't be MK anyway.
>>741477223I don't want to play Fortnite so I avoid Fortnite. Stop Fortniting the shit I actually play. The only time a guest character is acceptable is if it's a character from the same company and in a roughly analogous genre. Cody in Street Fighter is cool but Mega Man in Street Fighter would be retarded.
>>741477809manga character don't traslate well to 3D
>>741478769>He's horribly out of place in that gameWell, he’s far more fitting than the dj and soccer player
>>741478769I'd argue MK has the most appropriate in the sense that the guest characters tend to be the type of character that mouthbreathing retards who love MK also like i.e. slasher villains and characters from '80s action movies. What do Ronaldo or FF16 Man have to do with Fatal Fury or Tekken?
>>741478908Aye, Ghostface is cool
>>741477294>Ragna X VelvetWeird and somehow make sense ship considering both characters have almost similar traits.
>>741478880With the right artstyle and graphics, I think it can be closely faithful. Arcsys and CyberConnect2 are one of the devs that can do near perfect translation.
>>741478769>KenshiroGuy who uses Chinese martial arts based on manipulating chi and hitting pressure points in a game full of people who use martial arts based on chi and have similar power levels.>>741478894>djOut of place only because his moves are based on his music clips so his flying looks silly, but a fighting dj already exists in the setting with Duck King, which they made sure to reference in his arcade mode.>soccer playerKoF has the American sports team, if Lucky Glauber fits in the same setting as other FF characters by being a fighting basketball player, why not a fighting soccer player?
can't believe cr1tikal's voicing kenshiro
excited to see yujiro's gameplay revealstill waiting for baki's game
6 sleepies till EVO
>>741477392If your opponent is a crybaby or complains to you about bm or something you need to tbag him more because he's a bitch
>>741477783god i want to play chaos code so bad fuck exarcadia
>>741479421It's on steam though isn't it? I have the first one on ps3 and it didn't have online so yeah fuck them. I have 2 on steam
>>741479450theres a new version out thats stuck on arcades only
>>741479467Good, when I get the port it'll have all the one button infinites gone. I don't mind if someone dabs on me with an exceed setup
>>741479179The difference between FotNS and most fighting games is that once Kenshiro hits somebody they tend to die. One hit kills isn't something you see in Fatal Fury games.>But they're martial artists, they can just tank the hitsBullshit. Terry's head would pop open and you know it.>Kenshiro is going easy on the fighters and not going all outIn that case, why is he even fighting them? You're admitting he doesn't fit, and the entire cast is beneath him.
>>741479669You know who would no diff it? Sol Badguy.
>>741477223>Thoughts on guest characters in fighting games?Garbage that does nothing but cheapen the franchise and make it come off as desperate and unable to stand on its own characters.
>>741479669>one hit kills aren't something you see in fatal fury gamesRing outs can be one hit kos and old desperation moves.Also you didn't die in 1 hit in the HNK games either. As a matter of fact the most popular HNK fighting game regularly has super fucking long combos.
>>741477223desperate, corny, cringe
I got defeated a lot again in +R. I think I am missing something, when opps switch to characters they are not as good with still beat me, I'm thinking I'm not getting a fundamental part of the game
>>741479265What even is Yujiro's fight style? Isn't he just brute force and unrestrained violence? What do they have to work with besides copying comic panels?
last thread died before I got to post mine
>>741479774A good thing to do is use replay takeover to see what the correct answer is in a situation
>>741479797he copies other people's moves just to prove that he can do it better than them, but I'm not sure how that'll work out in Tekken. he's not even the most "brutal" character in baki because he doesn't go for kills that often, he just wants to let everyone else know that their place is underneath him
>>741479179>and have similar power levels.You're a retard who has no idea of what he's talking about?>KoF has the American sports teamKoF is not Fatal Fury, is not even in the same continuity.Tell me you mouthbreather, how much are the saudis paying you to shill? I'll double it! Even triple it!
>>741479828what if I know the answer but don't know when the opponent is going to do the thing
>>741479179>why not a fighting soccer player?what do japs even know about hockey, they'd inazuma 11 that shit and it'd stop resembling hockey at all in anything but name and hockey stick
>>741480061>You're a retard who has no idea of what he's talking about?Both series have martial artists who control ki and a vague enough power level that they can either die from falling from a tall building or jump from a helicopter without a parachute depending on what the plot calls for. Which is something I'm pulling from the SFV story mode, a similar setting. Tekken characters, also similar setting, have similar variance in power levels.>KoF is not Fatal Fury, is not even in the same continuity.I know, but you see KoF characters fighting Terry and Mai and think nothing of it because both settings are similar, KoF is just a little more extreme usually with things like gods and alternate dimensions.>>741479669>Terry's head would pop openGato's super literally breaks the opponent's neck. You hear it pop. They're alive afterwards. Kevin punches a grenade in your face. Just headcanon that any martial artist can resist the damage or resist the ki being injected on the pressure points to minimize damage. Or headcanon that they will die but still manage to beat Kenshiro before the explosion timer.
>>741479797>What do they have to work with besides copying comic panels?He has enough panels to make a compelling fighting style. But even if he didn't, the fact he copies people's moves means they have an excuse to give him any popular signature move from the series no matter which character it's from.
>>741477223In general I prefer when guest characters fit with the tone of the game they are appearing in.Kenshiro isn't exactly the first character I'd think of putting in Fatal Fury, but at least it's better than penaldo and ravioli.
>>741477223i absolutely hate it
>>741480867>Kenshiro isn't exactly the first character I'd think of putting in Fatal Furyi would have thought of him eventually, just because of geese howard looking like souther and krauser taking cues from raoh
Why do people hate Ky? I thought he was an anime kino swordman.
>>741479704agreed+ they're almost always overpoweredit's never good
>>741480569>and a vague enough power level that they can either die from falling from a tall buildingAgain, you clearly don't know shit about HnK and are talking out of your ass. The powerlevels there aren't comparable at all with Fatal Fury.You're free to keep acting like the retard you are, but don't think at any point anyone will tell you you're right.>but you see KoF characters fighting Terry and Mai and think nothing of it because both settings are similarNo, because I have a three digits IQ and understand what videogame crossovers are all about. The fact that I like Marvel vs Capcom too doesn't mean I expect it to have sensible "lore" or plot, the premise itself doesn't make sense but that can be brushed away by the fact its a crossovers, ora "dream match" game, much like KoF 98 or Tekken Tag.Same with KoF, the fact that it has FF characters in it doesn't mean KoF characters would make sense in FF. That was true maybe in the 90s, but now shit like clones upon clones upon clones or even Nakoruru would be completely out of place in FF's Southtown.
Step aside SF6 and SNK, the new king of Fighting Games is here.
>>741481679Really? Did the game become good finally?
>>741481679>tagslop
>>741481679*dies*
>>741480961Maybe hated gameplay wise when fought against atleast in Strive. Storywise, He's cool throughout the series. Went from a elite swordsman of the holy orders to the king of Illyria, fought against god tier gears, Ariels and God Ino, fucked Sol's daughter, and gained dragon install as peak character development.
>>741481679did woolie figure it out?
>>741481679>2xkusogeLMAO, no one wants to play this shit
>>741477223Now post Kenshiro doing that on Ronaldo so I can shitpost with it on /sp/ once he chokes again
>>741482247Kenshiro release next week unless there's another dev match coming hopefully with Ronaldo.
>>741481679still waiting for Riot to say that they're "scaling back support because their great community can run it without their help" aka plugging the plug on the esport support and in turn pretty much putting the game in EOS.>>741481813lol no
How are we feeling about Virtua Fighter 6?
Should I reinstall Blazblue and learn Es ?
>>741480961Rainbow road was literally an unreactable overhead on psn because of the massive input delay of the playstation console.
>>741482320Competitively? Skeptical. Casually? Hype. The singleplayer content looks good and promising.
>>741482376it is also a place where you go when you die
>>741482459Are you... are you someone's cat or dog? Or a pet in general?
>>741482326Yes you should Reinstall Tekken 7 and learn Eliza learn Es and Nine go for it
Suggestion (You should play Granblue Fantasy Versus - Rising. It is fun)
>>741477223Novelty wore off a long time ago, they all suck
>>741482629
Tekken 8 is great and I’m having a blast
EVO schedule doko
>>741482320looks mediocre at best, characters look lame and they keep saying they are trying to push for realism which is a huge red flag
>>741482773Should be 4 days before day 1 EVO but here's the showcase schedule though
>>741482697No
>>741482697I say this.Except, you know, earnestly and unironically.
>>741482993thanK You
slayers strive theme is kinda reddit but i like it
What could they possibly show at EVO besides Yujiro?SNK has already shown Kenshiro and Capcom has already shown Yasmine, but surely it's not just the Yujiro show, right?
What’s the one fighting game you would pick to improve your IQ?
>>741483110One of the few good Strive ost.
>>741482937Isn't one of VF's main points the realism compared to other fighting games?
>>741483121last tokon team, doa7, cotw s3,
>>741482026Qrd? not watched him in ages and only just watched his FFXIV VoDs because I am curious how long he can hold out
>>741483141one that is really simple with not very many options that you have to intuit out solutions for without being given too many options. samurai shodown 5, soulcalibur 2, street fighter 4
>>741483121>Robo Ky trailer and maybe new character reveal>DOA7 new trailer>Tokon Ghost Rider team trailer> COTW season 3 trailer>Granblue Id and maybe season 3 trailer>UNI2 Zohar trailer and maybe some unexpected trailer>Avatar Zaheer gameplay trailer>Tekken 8 Bob trailer
>>741483284arcsys has their own event like 3 days before, i think it will only be tokon at evo
>>741483121BBTAG 3.0
>>741483284>>741483353FB has an event lined up soon too doesn't it?
>>741483353Oh yeah the arcsys showcase.
>>741482320It looks cool, unlike every other fighting game right and every previous VF
>>741483417Well the UNI2 showcase is in day one. For Melty news that would be on FGO Fest.
>>741483170>realism>In the series that has Kage?
>>741483170>realism
>>741483587>he has never met real life ninjasPitiable
>>741483353It's time for DAMON AND BABY TWO BAYBEEEEEE
>>741483587>>741483630VF is regularly described as the most down-to-earth fighting game without being a simulation like the UFC games. That doesn't mean it's completely true to life, aiming for a more cinematic feel than it may otherwise be. It's a game about pure martial arts, pitting style against style in a way that's at least reasonably believable. The most fanciful element most people come across in VF is, indeed, Dural (and J6 as a whole).Still, that's been core to VF's identity since day one: realism, and cutting-edge technology. Every new VF release has always been a milestone for the industry in one way or another, and they demonstrate that using movie-grade martial arts fighting - no flash, just pure hands.
>>741483868VF2 to VF3 was a massive jump in graphics
OK but why is it called VIRTUA Fighter? No "L" at the end?
>>741484049Japanese devs back then had no sense of english so virtua sounded cool even if it's spelt wrong.
VIRTUA COP ERITE EDITION
>>741484049Because it sounds cooler and it's part of the Virtua series
>>741483986VF2 introduced motion capture (exemplified in the opening demo where Shun does a kata).VF3 was the first game on the Sega Model 3 arcade board, allowing for absolute wild shit like eye tracking, models that flex and bulge and relax, and 3D stages with stairs and slopes, on top of actual 3D movement with the dodge button.>>741484049Because "Virtua" is the title SEGA uses for its '90s-era meta franchise, used for games like Virtua Racing, Virtua Cop, and Virtua Tennis.
>>741484078>>741484096>>741484115>>741484154Naruhodo...
>>741484096>>741484115Easter egg cameo soon in VF6
>>741484049as far as i remember it was segas branding they used as a form of cross promotion.and you can trademark "virtua" while "virtual" is a generic term.
trying to do the combo seen here >>741406262 but so far i cannot get the timing of the shoryuken right and the input for it doesn't register even when i try doing it quickly
>>741484193Probably weird question, why SNES version and not the arcade version?
>>741484193skill issue
>>741484251because they were using the snes version in the demonstration but i'll switch to the arcade version to practice later
>>741484115>>741484165To make this thread relevant, Janet from Virtua Cop 2 is a playable character in Fighters Megamix. Her fighting style amounts to>What if we took Aoi from VF and gave her a gun?
Man, i just started playing SF6(not much, just some casual matches) and as a regular no extra mechanics type of person, it's really strange to have a parry, focus attack and a dash all at the same time.It feels like i should be using all of these all the time, but that's also a clear waste of my resources.
>>741484320https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sNrUst8UjsNo, really. She's VF3 Aoi, except 46P+K has her pull her service pistol and pop you up to three times.
>>741484193Following the original demo, you're landing the j.HK cross-up too early. Either way, you've got to hit that DP motion as the HP is connecting. Remember that the input is essentially forward, then half a quarter-circle forward.
>>741477223great indicator of the rot that is raping the genre.
>>741484320>>741484554Dayum that's pretty cool and holy shit I miss light gun shooters.
Can't wait to try Tifa and her special power called Abilities.
>>741484320>>741484554I like the really out there picks for fighters megamixs
>>741484193cl.5HP is two hits and you have to cancel the first one into DP.
Nakoruru can canonicallyand has gone to their time (and not even by herself)Kenshiro isn't really a reach
>>741484995>Nakoruru can canonicallyand has gone to their time (and not even by herself)That's in the KOF timeline. Things are a little different in the AOF/FF timeline.
>>741485054Thanks to a motion picture she technically has appeared in the series
>>741484995>Nakoruru wearing modern clothesCUTE!
>>741483141You can’t improve your IQ retard.
anyone up for mbaacc?
>>741485462Shut the fuck up.
>>741484995They should bring in Galford's descendent who's a rival ninja to the Shiranui school
>>741477223https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WF0DuDIy6NkThird Kenshiro match
>>741485525no
>>741485964How Is Kenshiro going to survive this?
>redownloaded SF6I'll do it this timeI'll learn more characters than just Honda and play longer than a monthwhat the fuck is this file size? holy shit
>>741485462Yes
>>741486147You can remove World Tour from DLC to save 20-30 GB.
>>741486273https://invite.meltyblood.club/3026
>>741486110https://youtu.be/3DyewZGwMO0
>>741482629uhhhhhhhhhh but I posted up in the lobby yesterday and in the thread but no one joinedgrubble actually gay???
>>741486370lobby doesn't exist
>>741486370>lobby does not existfuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuug
>>741486453>>741486458oh wait copypasted teh wrong linkhttps://invite.meltyblood.club/5144
>>741481679fuck off retard
I checked steamcharts for Street Fighter 4 and there seems to be about 200 a day, that's pretty decent, right? Does anyone here still play, and do you know if people still queue for ranked, public player lobbies, or is it all discord?I've been watching tournament matches and it's a lot more exciting than 6, and I didn't want to put in the effort of learning about v-triggers.
>>741487054You can quick check the Radmin server for the rollback mod to see how many people are live on there
>>741487073I totally forgot that there could be games still on delayed based. I didn't even consider that. Alright I'll check this out.
>>741479701The power level in Guilty Gear is some prime retarded shit, Sol is basically a walking nuclear bombEven among regular humans, I think Bridget is the only one that would get bodied
aaaaa why am I dropping 5C>236X again. At this rate I'll never get to drop the j[C]>j.66>j6CB extension.
That'll be enough for me for now. Been up all night so I was glad to crash some Melty. Disappointed that it was choppy, but I roll with what I get. Especially since I was spending what brainpower I had on "fuuuuuuuuug what's the input for the launcher again" even though I wasn't getting in most of the time anyways lolggs guys
>>741482320I'm worried about Eileen not making the initial roster but other than that, I couldn't be happier honestly.
>>741480736So he's gonna be another Leeroy?
>>741486527ggs. seriously it's like I lost all my progress from last time. I'm pressing 5B in pressure again and I'm dropping the battou conversion. at least I'm doing 2A>5C on pressure, tho I probably should be using 2A>2B instead.>>741487934Are you on wifi? First time it posted a ping of 90ms and second time it was 60ms.Since it seems like you haven't picked out a char yet, what kind of playstyle are you looking for?
>>741477223Used to be cool but I fear it has become a standard and now it's expected for a fighting game to have guest characters
>>741488219Nah I'm on wired, and my usual character is H-Nanners. When I'm not so sleepy eepy I play a lot more deliberately with him and I've got that BnB of uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 5C 2C 214A 5A 5C Jump Series down pat. This morning was just for mashing and not using j.B for a2a or not reverse beating back into 5A, like a silly billy
>>741477223Hate guest characters, moreso now that theyre everywhere and are treated as a main selling point. Only exception is maybe something like Eltnum in UNI since its FB and she kind of fits with the aesthetic.Not a fan of Akatsuki though, even though it makes sense why they put him in. Something like MBTL was insane with how many guest characters they were shoving in considering the piss poor state of the roster (yes i know they couldnt add characters not introduced into the reboot yet, idc), and SF6 is heading a similar path. it feels like the guest characters are becoming more important than legacy characters at this point
>>741488715>feels like the guest characters are becoming more important than legacy characters at this pointOne look at Tekken 7 shows how wrong you are, guest characters are not overtaking legacy characters and they never will. But guest characters are killing new original characters
>>741487975>worried about a character no one likes you can always tell the tourist from the real ones
>>741489386Whether or not you like Eileen isn't my problem is it? She's been my character of choice since the original release of VF5 so why would I not want her back?
>>741488581imo a2a jB is kinda ass. nan neutral should prob revolve more around getting above for jC or scouting with jA
games where you couldn't do anything?
>>741489510no dip, since j.B is a stack of hurt as much as it is hit, but angles are angles and you use what works for the one you're in
>>741481916Ky holding back everytime he fought Sol was crazy
>>741489485On the official poll she's not even in the top 15 you fucking secondary
>>741489732So? I still want her back. And are you seriously calling me a secondary because I chose to main Eileen for 20 years? What you want to me to say 'Jackie's been my guy since the arcade days of VF1." Well that didn't fucking happen, I switched to Eileen.
>Tifa>Yujiro>KenshiroWhich fighting game do I play bros?
>>741490021All of them
>Kenshiro trailer >MAN GET THAT WEAK SHIT OUTTA HERE CUZ LMAO THAT SHIT WAS LAME AS HELL>Kenshiro gameplay vs Mai & RockWE ARE SO BACK!!! HNK BROS WE EATING GOOD!!!!!!
>>741489689rather than the stubby disjoint (which is indeed trash) imo the real pain is the 2f active.
You guys are remedial squeegees
>>741477223Everyone learned the wrong lessons from smash brothers. Even smash brothers got carried away with the guest characters.
collab whoring is how they get their money these days I guess
Games
https://www.youtube.com/live/ZH_gz32I-MY?si=7UOMujRV7Ucd9CaOhttps://www.youtube.com/live/3lb7x1OfQv0?si=grXLtw6Ev1YU4X5z
think I'm done with GGXI didn't like it very much, the story was pretty lame for the most part and there's not much going on in it and it's mostly just setup for later entries with all the vague talk stuff I guess, I liked Faust and Zato's stories because they're the only ones that felt they went somewhere and not much elseidk what it is exactly but the game just feels off, I liked plaing anji in it thoughtime for XX now
>>741492376Did you play PS2 GGX Plus jap?
Tag matches suckAssists suckMeter based specials suck
>>741492553yea, I could understand most of it but some of it is tricky because there's so much vague talk, I found a youtube video that has the story mode translated also that I referenced a few times but it's not very good
>>741492638Yeah that's pretty much it. Also assuming you don't know, for XX it has two story mode. The first half you can play it on Reload while the second half you can play it on +R. +R doesn't have the first half so you gotta play both.
>>741477223>KOThat's not a KO, that guy is gonna fall to pieces now.
>>741492791yea I already have Reload setup, took me a while to realize there is an international release because it's called X2 instead of XX, whoever names these games is demented
>>741493093*You Wa Shock song plays*FATAL KO
>>741493125Localization haha. Have fun anon.
>>741490021>>Tifa>>YujiroDogshit
I wish modern fighting games didn't do away with projectiles persisting on hit.
>>741477294didn't expect helena's theme to sound that dramatic. doa tracks are always fun
>>741492376>anji decides to conceal his racial origins >looks like thatLmao
>>741493427Kill yourself nigger you are literaly carried by a bug in a game
>>741493470that's just in the context of the japanese being protected by the government and him rejecting it, not that he hides being japanese
>>741493427It's there, but there are caveats when it's present. Faust's bomb bag persists even if the doctor gets hit in Strive, but it's because it can hit Faust too
why does kenshiro look especially shitty for cotw? like mr. karate looks 1000x better
>>741494983did you even watch the gameplay videos? he's doing mr karate tier combos
>>741495053his animations and model look horrible
>>741493427>I wish I could be a carried retard in every gameKill yourself.
>>741493552>>741495108but it's funny
this is one of the most soulful and fanservice-heavy fighting games ever made. it's a shame it's a total broken mess. or maybe it's not a shame, since it's actually kept it alive in a sense instead of being totally forgotten
Having my first IRL Martial Arts Tournament in 2 hours. Recommend me fighting game beats in the car to get myself hyped up.wish me luck too I only got a month of practice in ;_;
>>741495279I played it a bit on fightcade and it was kinda cool because we were two clueless idiots not doing anything optimizedIt feels nice to play
>>741495320tj combos KI theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JapDyUwAu8
>>741495279
>>741495105I have no idea what you're talking about. he looks and moves just like his arc system version. It even looks like they took inspiration from there
>>741495619idk he looks especially stiff even for cotw to me, but maybe it is a stylistic choice
>>741477223The fists appearing from the darkness looks really bad.
>Also you can see Oro's penis if you look closely. why did they do it bros?
>>741495279There's a Japanese 3v3 tournament every year.
fighting game songs that get me pumped the fuck up when they come onhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JapDyUwAu8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHzOMTMCTeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxeNDmwzB3Uhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKgzFJnYonUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbMRKO28otMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5T4aBv2lXchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxOOpyqwC8ohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGetImTgyFAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQDab8vT8GU
>>741496148very noice
Play +R.
>>741496094Capcom were too based
Is there a way to do training mode while waiting in a player room in blazblue cf? Opening another instance of the game even?
>>741477223garou was one of the most soulful fighters where I felt like its general vibe was actually pretty important to it. Sad to see saudis shit all over itInstead of zoomers getting introduced to the old FF characters and South Town, this game will only ever be remembered or talked about for its tacky guest fighters
>>741497303i consider 3s and garou sister games
>>741477223I fucking hate guest characters, so much so that I lose all interest and drop games whenever they add them. No I don't want your stupid crossover marketing gimmick slop, I want the IP I bought into. Practically stopped playing fighting games entirely since every single fucking modern game has taken the guest slop route.
>Johnny>looks cool>sounds cool>one of the strongest characters lorewiseDoes he have any downsides?
>>741498250Too much of an autist to fuck May.
>>741498250Downsides?
>>741482320A ton of fgc boomers always looking for their savior in the next game are gonna be disappointed learning it's all about rushdown and close range aggression. Casuals are gonna like it because it's pretty and inoffensive. Inoffensive as in, not horny like DoA, not anime, not weird. I expect a lot of people being filtered by system requirements.
>>741498250High execution, which makes him look even cooler
>>741498250Yes, he refused to fuck me!
>>741498380May...
>>741498250>one of the strongest characters lorewiseReally? I remember watching the xrd story and he was a glorified taxi driver, didn't contribute to shit. I don't remember him ever fighting anyone that matters seriously and he wasn't in the Strive story. But I haven't been keeping up with the post launch Strive story so maybe he did something in the anime?
>>741495279Wasn't it at JP EVO this year?
>>741498467Dribble galore babyyyyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1jbeuTjU5Y
>>741495279https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUKSPoGrh2g
>>741498467Yes, to promote the anime. Just like Kenshiro in cotw.>>741497896Get used to not playing any video games anymore because after Fortnite's success you'd have to be a moron to not put guests in your game since that's what people love. Feels like everything has guests now.
>>741498250He never actually fucks.
>>741477223I only like them when they're characters I already like, and that's very rare. Most of the time they're alright as long as they're from other fighting games.
>>741498696>Get used to not playing any video games anymoreIf that's what it comes to I will gladly drop gaming entirely. Fuck guest characters.
>>741498464In Dual Rulers he's just only helping the main characters iirc. He did fought Unika and Nerville though.
>>741477223>Thoughts on guest characters in fighting games?Honestly can't believe it doesn't piss people off more. I can't stand getting into a game like Tekken or Street Fighter only to be forced into matches with some faggot Final Fantasy or TV show character.
>>741477223Kenshiro is one of the few that actually fit since his manga basically inspired nearly every fighting game by proxy or otherwise. Other than that I don't like them too much.
>>741495549>>741498681Say my name
>>741499007Jaggopillar
>>741493427I don't. One of the reasons that this annoying nigger is top 2 is thanks to his projectiles persisting on hit.
>>741498928Ok so nothing changed. Johnny is one of those characters that looks badass and they keep telling you he is a badass but he never actually did anything badass. The opposite of show, don't tell.
I made the mistake of watching Kenshiro's Dub trailer. What the fuck were they thinking with his voice?
>>741499470no clue, even in the new anime his dub voice sucks ass
>>741499156Second chance...
>>741499470Probably some union thing with VAs.
>>741499525Jagshit
>>741498250Who the fuck calls Johnny one of the strongest lore wise I don't think that fucker makes top 15 with what the games actually show.
>>741499609Orewa usoga daikirainanda!
>want to get into fighting games>remember i have to spend 10000hours to practice combos>remember i have bad reaction timeI wish I could play them but everytime its depressing
>>741498250>>one of the strongest characters lorewise???he's just a weeb
>>741499735
>>741499007I can never tell the fuckin shi and tsu katakana apart
>>741500141Yeah if you're not a jap player you're fucked unless you already know which is the right words. Though the super was like never used that much competitively I think the same thing with the Shin only command grab too.
>>741497265You can queue for ranked and then wait in training room
>>741490145>playing SF6I'd rather smash my head against the wall.
is slayer a good character for learning +r?
>>74148404990s sega dont take no L's
>>741500878Sorry r+ issa rocket science hardcore gaem and you will br spending 200 hours in training room to learn frcerinos
>>741495619>he looks and moves just like his arc system versionhe doesn't even have all the moves that are in the arcsys gameno ujozankai ken isn't a jumping grab move that puts you in timerno rush move that's a uni mechanic or air dash evenhis walking animations aren't even the sameare you pam from the office
>>741501059Early 90s and on the arcades atleast especially the arcades. They started to fumble after the 32X and Sega Saturn.
>>741498464He's one of the strongest regular humans that doesn't use magic, which means in setting he's like mid tier
>>741499795>>remember i have to spend 10000hours to practice combosliterally not true, you have to spend maybe 1 hour learning a single combo and you're good>>remember i have bad reaction timethis improves with time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VleuV_Wz4Q ITS UPnen impact looks so fucking funny dudes if it had a good single player arcade mode i'd buy it. i'll just wait for sale
>>741499691>>741499832Happy Chaos ran away because he didn't want to fight Johnny.
>>741477223>big wall of fists spawns from the void before he even throws a single punchWell that looks stupid
any powerscalers here, who is the all time most powerful fighting game character? is it ingrid?
>>741503160>is it ingrid?lol kek and even lmao
>>741503160yes
>>741503160>IngridCompare Ingrid with Blazblue I dare you
>>741503160Technically, it's characters from Umineko fighting game
>>741503380Pure fighting game characters I think
>>741503160Pick an anime fighter and they've probably got some horseshitAnd MvC
>>741477223They're stupid because they fuck with power scaling. Reminder that Yujiro and with that every Baki character is confirmed weaker than a fucking kangaroo.
>>741503160I thought it was slayer but then daisuke made him job to bedman so I'm not sure anymore
>>741503489Maybe Ryogi then.
mirror matches are fun, getting to how folks use his kit. weird how no ky ever dp's except me when i misinput though. the sols i see are more than happy to
>>741503612Happy Chaos is strongest character of GG. And no one is even close.
>>741503712Melty ain't pure
>>741503731mirror matches being fun is a sign you're playing an honest character. I also play Ky and greatly enjoy the mirror, but my sub is I-No which I'll groan at even if she's got great tools against herself.
>>741495279It's kind of funny how this game came with only about 9 characters and no one complained.
>>741503160>>741503489Probably Ingrid. She can time travel, travel to different universes, creates a wish granting artifact in SFxT and can erase worlds. That's enough to make her stronger than god I-No from Strive for example, who was only a threat to that one world and if I recall correctly, was the strongest being in GG lore. I also think that's enough to be stronger than French Bread characters but I might be forgetting someone.
yeah i'll be using the german dub for captain america
Blazblue literally has plot armor as a power. Phenomena Intervention, Power of Order, Ragna himself, etc.
>>741503731yeah ky's mirror is a 5/5 mu but not all mirror matches are created equal
>Ingrid! I'll make you hate me and notice me so I can be immortal and OP as fuck and I can "observe" you to become a normal person!>AIIIIIEEEEEEEBlazblue are hax galore
>>741503760Well, like I said, post-Xrd story mode, Slayer is shown to not be all that powerful after all.What made him seem like the strongest was his non-involvement and lack of seriousness when dealing with his opponents. But by taking Bedman seriously when he fought him in Xrd and still being unable to actually beat him, it's shown that he wasn't all that.I don't know about Strive, but if we're talking pre-Xrd, Slayer would realistically be stronger than anyone else, considering that he's neither a Gear nor a super-powerful magical human, but something entirely separate that existed long before them and is supposedly unparalleled in strength. Not to mention, he's immortal too.
>>741503850huh i tried i-no briefly before switching to ky funnily enough. i just decided i wanted to be able to run up and grab someone.it did make the ranked i-no's the comfiest matches i've had though since i knew about the flight dash.
>>741504107This lmaoHakumen literally has an attack that erases you from time itself BB runs on hax bullshit that can only be counter by other haxs
>>741477223SF6 is horribly overrated.
>>741503160https://youtu.be/aSnQ0cNptAg
>>741504686>Mugen fighters mogs everythingI concede
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89EYLWiqLl4
>>741504107>>741504308>>741504450As long as all that is confined to one universe, Ingrid can just destroy it.
>He doesn't know about the boundary
>>741505049BB has multiverse shit too
>>741504754>>741504686Not even the strongest MUGEN characterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiPVPP1ECko
>>741505169I don't.>>741505256Sure, but I mean, anon said Hakumen can erase you from time itself. Is that time in that one universe or for all multiverse? Can he survive Ingrid going outside his universe and destroying the whole thing?
>>741505347NTA but it's all of the multiverse. Pretty sure he survives the whole timeline getting busted a few times, in fact he's one of the few who actually remembers what happens and his power is essentially to shut down hax. In fighting game terms his kit is saying "no"
>>741477223If it was done with passion, like Terry in smash ultimate, comes with something that generates upmost hype, like "duel of the fates" in soul calibur 4, or is a straight up full on cross over like mvc, c v snk, etc, it's fineIf it's a watered down, uninspired copypasta with a IP protected coat of paint (none immediately come to mind, but I'm sure we've played them), those can fuck off
>>741504926At first I thought it was weird he never does anything like pic related outside of his supers. All his specials have him punching using his shield arm but he never hits you with the center part of the shield. But now that I think about it, it's probably because he can do his specials while the shield is bouncing all over the screen, so they have to make sense with the same animation while he's just punching the ground or doing a generic uppercut
Quantum Schrodinger's Cat humuhumu
now this is a normal
>>741505786Big ass normals are a menace
>>741505851this move has armor too and hits fullscreen. its his standing heavy
>>741505851>Big ass normals
>>741505786Eighting.
>>741505930kek
what are the most satisfying big ass normals to hit? sagats HK in 6 stands out to me.
>>741505851>extremely good midscreen range disjoint>basically safe unless point blank>almost impossible to whiff>huge reward on counterhit>buff it with forward movement and increased active frames so it's definitely impossible to whiff
>>741506301>Me backdash subconciously>Pot players somehow predict this fast and goes 6HOuch
>>741506819>somehow predictcurious choice of words for "fucked up their charge for hammerfall"
>>741504926Ah finally character guides
>>741477223looks awful like all 3d cinematic supers thats is 20 seconds too long
>>741505851>>741506229DUAR
>>741477223Kenshiro would murder the new owners of SNK without a second thought Putting him in this game is an insult
>>741507314strive has a nigger samurai? that's disgusting
>>741507363nigga nago has been in the game since launch do you live under a rock or something
>>741477294>Esdeath: Give that to me>Velvet: No way you got your own>Esdeath: Well I want yours too
>>741507314>blood rage 5HNah, it's BL3 5H for me, especially on counterhit or with meter to RC into 50% HP combos
Marvel Bladeeee
>>741495549Lore accurate shit are always cool
I just made it to master rank. Gib kiss as reward
>>741508136Omedetou
>>741508136
>>741508136>>741508252
>>741508343Me on the left
I don't get why new VF iis so praised. Looks very generic. And gameplay looks meh.
>beats you up and hands you to the policewhat do?
>>741495320I lost all 3 of my matches. ;_;However they were all losses by points so I'm happy. I'll do better next time. OSS
>>741508136>Gib kissIf you say so
How do I stop being retarded and overthink shit and just play the game to have fun? Every fighting game I just buy it and sit entire day thinking if I should play it or not.This is a mental illness
>>741508828Get yourself a reward for the hardwork so far. You earned it.
>>741508941the human brain is just not designed to have 50 different options for entertainment competing against each other at all timesbut also just boot up the game and play it
Why are fighting game guides so fucking bad now? Why are they all just bloated 2 hour videos of people talking about nonsense?
>>741509095I will. TY!
>>741509312a lot of the bigger channels guides suck ass you need to find some dude with low views who is autistic about his character
>>741508941It's funny how sometimes I spend more time playing games on workdays since when I have less free time there's a stronger urge to not waste it. Setting a goal for yourself or training for an upcoming event can help with motivation, but overthinking things is something you just have to force yourself to override sometimes. >>741509312Autist genre
>>741508706>Looks very generic.What other fighting game looks like that?
ngl this game is kinda cool but it has the opposite problem of most eighting games in that each round takes like fucking 90 seconds, its a very slow ass game
>>741509312videos are made for consumption, they are not educational, please learn the difference
>>741478946I didn't say they were good. I said that MK is a game for troglodytes so characters that appeal to their trog sensibilities at least make sense. It's still retarded.
>try a new character in strive as a noob>go against gold player who knows everything and everyoneI FUCKING HATE MATCHMAKING!!! WHY DO I HAVE TO LOSE 500 MATCHES BEFORE I GET MATCHED WITH PEOPLE OF EQUAL SKILL?!?!
>>741509890>gold player who knows everythingloltry doing a meaty on their wakeup and knowledge check them with an epic mid
>>741509890Why?Because you are bad.Be an adult. Accept it. Grow.
I got to master with Ryu and I'm starting to learn Ken and I thought Ken was the better shoto but holy fuck Ken freaking stinks. So much easier to misinput with him (and I struggle with shoryu/hadou with Ryu). I never know when to use other DL except for H DL to get in. To jinrai mind game your opponent he gotta just not respect you but if he does it's so hard to get mix compared to Ryu's hasho.
>>741510198you should be playing terry (the best shoto) or akuma (the most fun shoto)
Anybody up for something
>>741510105I don't know how to do any of that. I can barely remember my inputs but NOOO MAAATCHMAKING DEMANDS THAT I KNOW EVERYTHING GO FUCK YOURSELFFFFF!!!
Remember that Castlevania fighting game with the Death Note artist designing the characters?
>>741510198>and I thought Ken was the better shotoanon is stuck in season 1
>>741510440you press cS when they get up from the ground after they get knocked down on the ground
Lily is my wife and that’s all there is to it.
>>741510198Might try Akuma desu. I just don't like his design (no offense, I don't want to play as an old unc. If Evil Ryu was in the game (which he'll never be in), I'd try him out.) Kinda don't get the difference between the shotos though.>>741510508Man Ryu was buffed back in S2 and nobody said SHIT until suddenly S3 he got one more minor buff and then everyone suddenly like WAIT A MINUTE HES KINDA BUSTED WTF. I hate SF community so much.
>>741510440>I can barely remember my inputsHow did you make it up to where the game would match you up against Golds consistently?
>>741510434UNI/Melty?
>>741497265It is your exact complaint that I don't play bbcf as much as I would like to, +r lobby and online experience is too good. It's shameful also that every modern fighter is not on the same level
>>741510434if it's anime I'm down
>>741510589I got to gold II with Anji and now the game thinks I'm good. I don't wanna keep playing Anji.
There are three things that all fighting games players should be doing when they aren't playing fighting games.1, Playing Beat Em Ups2, Playing Shmups3, Playing Character Action GamesNo excuse, you should be gods in these genre including fighting game genre. The genre was made literally for (You). inb4 you never 1cc'd Final Fight, Streets of Rage, Double Dragon. You're an embarrassment.inb4 you can't even Star Rave in DMC4. Pathetic inb4 you never 1cc'd a Dodanpachi game. Just kill yourself already.
>>741510840what about musou games
>>741510840is being an annoying avatarfag part of your retarded list as well
>>741510840pshhh i bet you haven't even beat mk shaolin monks on the hardest difficulty
>>741510950Which musou game? >>741511002Ed Boon is making the remaster soon.
Best rank systems?
>>741511227Devil May Cry
>>741499223imagine buffing such a dogshit character concept to viability.retards in charge.
>>741510840Beat em ups are boring
>>741510840kys
>>741510721DBFZ?
>>741479807>Psychic Force>Rumble Fishgood taste
>>741509890Its funny since im in gold with like 20 hours in strivd and finding specimens with 5k games that can combo and frametrap but like on defense and in neuch are like botsWho are those guys
>>741510651>>741497265it's genuinely weird that they don't let you do this in bb when you can sit in training mode in xrd lobbies and these are 2 games that were developed at pretty much the same time
>>741511612I hit Vanquisher last week and I still have 3 characters in Gold and a bunch more in Plat 1 because I just freeball all my placement matches without learning BNBs, pressure or specials
>>741511380>he got filteredYou're an embarrassment
>>741510840i'm good at rhythm games like sound voltex, does that count
>>741511612people that play oppressively enough for the lower metal ranks that they never really had to defend and when they do against one of their ilk they get blown up so hard they can't figure out what to learn from it?
>>741511502sorry I don't have that one, actually I don't have many anime games not sure I why I said that
i'm 35, hetero and my fav games are strive and 2xko unironically
>>741512002if you like 2xko you should try skullgirls!
>>741510840Beat em ups, shmups and character action don't really tickle the same skillsets. An enemy AI can only do so much, when a human player has better chance of surprising youWhen I want to unwind from fightan I play mahjong
>>741512002Stop being a hetero and see me in Strive now!
>>741512063>unwind>mahjongyoure a sick fuck
>>741512097Mahjong is pretty comfyBullshit but comfy
>>741512063Beat em ups, shmups, and character action provide the same thing as good fighting game - arcade design philosophy & player expression. Checkmate.
>>741511227any one that is per character and not global
yeah guilty gear ain't for me
>>741512402which guilty gear and how come, the 3 main ones are pretty different from each other
when are they adding answer to strive
his name is answer because he answers the phone
>>741512512I've tried all of them and I'm complete ass no matter how many hours I put
>>741510840I play only JRPGs and VNs
>>741512167>design philosophy & player expressionWhat about sharing the same required skillsets? Herding enemy bullets isn't quite the same as crowd control in a beat 'em up or CAG, handling enemy waves differs between all three (and by game), and they are about playing against a computer at the end of it all. Fightans pit you against another human player, and that's something shmups, bmups and CAGs don't really do (outside of few oddballs like Twinkle Star Sprites, or the odd "who gets the girl?" pvp duels at the end of a bmup).
>>741512618well that's a shit reason to drop any fighting game
>>741512402You need bobleis
>>741512674>no please keep being my training dummyNah I'm good. I'd rather just play other games.
>>741512731no one is gonna pity you, stop being a weird faggot
nobody wants to struggle anymore, they just want to be good immediately without the joy of natural growth
>>741510785Anji sounds scary
>>741510617>>741510721https://invite.meltyblood.club/2280
>>741512167you arcade spergs are irrelevant and gay.only fighting games survived and action games (not your gay term) are console games.
>>741512772>y-you're weird for not letting me farm wins on youNot falling for your FGC propaganda
Brisket is kida fun ngl might wanna cut off my dick later
>>741512078i'm labbing atm
>>741512641Go play Hellsinker before you speak because you sound like a retard. Double Checkmate.
>>741512810lmao all these nip artists are so hyperfragile little pissbabies with their watermarks now
>>741482629>Crush>ClashesIf these two get removed entirely my enjoyment would skyrocket. Cross over (I think it's called, the KOF forward roll) having an actual use case would also be nice.
>>741512402it happens, you might just be straight
>>741513119Which character?
>>741503160Ingrid is going to be the Superman of power level discussion from now on. People think she's powerful because they're too white to know what Asian power scaling looks like when being a god like entity is the ground floor requirement to just compete. Half the Blazblue or Melty Blood characters have some way to deal with her powers including the ability to simply get around being erased from existence. There are KoF characters that can do it even and the power floor of that series is a high school fanboy.
>>741513507>Ash deletes himself from reality>shows up in kof15 anywayVery cool
>>741477223I actually kind of wish they did another full HnK fighting game (maybe with ArcSys but they'd have to figure out how to do hatched shadows in a good way) cause it does have a huge fuckton of potential with the bullshit.
>>741508085That game also features a super for a specific char that makes him kill himself because that happened in the mangaIt's actually incredible how much love and fanservice went into it, shame it's such a broken mess when played competitively
>>741513835I was doing ft3 cuz there were others in the lobby
>>741513859What's funny is that the suicide super could be useful (since it restores your stars), but you practically never have the time to pull it off because the startup is too long
>>741513895oh I thought you were done, I play fullscreen so I can never tell
>>741512810oh fucking hell, I meant to close caster since the other guy flew out of the lobby but then concerto closed.new lobby: https://invite.meltyblood.club/2343ft3 if more people arrive.
>>741513078Bridget is fun until you realize you're just playing a way worse Millia
>>741514048Not as good at rushing you down and converting as Millia, not as good as poking from a distance as AxlThe worst of both worlds
>>741504926His theme reminds me of Fall Guys (derogatory)
>>741513859It's the super for Shin (the guy who Jagi's talking to in that one)Theoretically you can use the super for a reset, but it's kind of useless outside of that if I recall and the startup animation is ridiculously long.
>>741514276I was purposefully avoiding naming him because lolspoilers for an old ass anime
Is there any way to punish heat at round start?
>>741514387dodge, shield, backdash, char specific shit.but what monkey would waste meter on round start like that except maybe croa?
>>741513507KoF is a series where people like Geese are believed to be dead just because they fell from a tall building. A character being able to survive time shenanigans says nothing about their durability in a fight. All I know about Melty is from reading the OG visual novel but even if someone like Shiki can cut abstract concepts with a knife, they still need to actually get close with said knife and he's a regular schoolboy otherwise. Even Archetype: Earth is limited in power to her reality. Ingrid is casually destroying universes. It's a completely different level.
concerto feels like a mess today
are these acceptable working clothes for a respectable cop?
>>741511834No, they are boring.
>>741513185Tbh generative ai is really really bad.
>hold back, forward, then back again then forward all without losing the chargeOk, but how do i do that tho?Yes, this is my first time trying to actually play Guile.
>>741514039and now it timed out. goddamnit shiburizu why is your shit so jank.last try https://invite.meltyblood.club/2648
>>741515589You retain charge for a couple frames after you let go of the direction, I think 12f for flashkick and 10f for sonic boomSo you kinda tap/jerk it
>>741503160Sol Badguy cooks her literally
>>741515757>12fWhat the hell I think Vatista has to charge for like 60f
>>741515954no, the charge itself is something like 45 frames, then you retain that charge for a dozen of frames after you let go of your input
>>741516148Oh I’m blind, yeah Guile’s are 45f charge timers
Fought a dizzy as slayer, didn't immediately get my ass kicked whenever she put down the ice floor and 2-0ed the bitch. Feels good to improve.
>>741503160Unborn Stun
>>741516592i feel like a big dumb dumb when she puts down the ice pillar in front of me and i walk into it then she runs across the screen and combos me for the next dozen seconds
>>741500878He’s fairly simple as long as you’re willing to practice links. Definitely rewarding.
>>741516592Ur still trash.Next time you get boped your depression will resurface, eventually there won't be easy solutions and youll be trapped in failure
Jin Kazama is literally me
>>741517153jin is cringe
>>741517153xTekken Jin would be so cool in sf6
>>741515653GGs. TKs are really killing my hand right now
>>741517449Jin is NOT cringe
>>741517449go to sleep kaz. you don't want to get your ass whooped by your own son (who is 20 years younger than you lmao) for the fourth time
>>741516592Yeah Ice Field is pretty much her wincon against Slayer, he can't really do shit once it's downIf you block Ice Spike, you need to either do reversal timing Mappa (P, K or Dash kara K depending on spacing), or you can also do Dandy Step, both will auto-punish her doing Ice Field on block, and get you in if she doesn't do it
>>741517646What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little shit? Ill have you know I graduated top of my class in G Corp special forces, and Ive been involved in numerous secret raids on the Mishima Zaibatsu, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and Im the top fighterr in the entire Iron Fist tournament. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the world and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. Youre fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and thats just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to Devil form and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little clever comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldnt, you didnt, and now youre paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. Youre fucking dead, kiddo
i need to make fightan friends, i feel incredibly lonely when playing and none of my irl friends are interested. I tried to connect with the people playing strive in my country but they are all zoomers and ignore me
>>741518556As an unc you are suppesed to play the older games
>>741518598i don't care about old games
>>741518656Thats probly why you have no friends
>>741518556>strivelol
>>741518493I wonder if that guy from the original post ever did kill the other guy who insulted him...
>>741518715i started fighting games in 2020, i have no nostalgia for the good ol times. Nobody plays the genre here and there are no uncs playing old shit anyway
Why does this general hate strive so much? I never see the same reaction towards SF6 or T8.
>>741519380it's just vpol or xturders perma buttblasted about the game changes after 5 years. Really pathetic bunch
>>741519380I'm PRETTY fucking sure Dix gets shitposted at least as much.
Is Berserk PS2 worth playing? I was debating that or the musou>>741519380>I never see the same reaction towards SF6 or T8.REALLY? NIGGA REALLY? OUT OF ALL GAMES T8?????
>>741519380those two games get more rage than trans strive thobeit
>throw>throw>throw>shimmy, meterdumpsf6 kino wow
>>741519363See>>741518715
>>741519380Old GG fans hate that it's a completely different game gameplaywise, the tone is completely different aestheticwise, and view all those changes along with the Bridget retcon and Testament being non-binary as pandering to a new western audience. The FGC also hates the Strive fanbase because it's notoriously made of drama queen trans people (see: Umisho being banned/unbanned), newfags and Smash players who migrated to fighting games during the pandemic. There's also a lot of people who got pissed off at ArcSys for years of Happy Chaos fuckery, broken lobbies, no ranked, launch issues, etc. Finally, Street Fighter players just hate anything that's not Street Fighter.
>strivedisgusting westernergame
If you want to make friends that badly you should visit the Official Fighting Game Retirement Home.
>>741519869Strive might as well be the "Halo 4" of Guilty gear.The next guilty gear game is going to crater so hard.
>>741519989HOLY...
>>741519616Frankly, I don't see anyone talking shit about T8 anymore unless I deliberately enter a Tekken discussion. In fact I feel like no one talks about that game at all anymore, I see more discussion about CotW and even Invincible or Avatar than Tekken. Almost like people either lost hope and left or decided to just shut up, accept their fate and play.
>>741519989When I played, it was full of brazilians
>>741520061no more point of bitching since its basically over, like soulcalibur.
>>741520157>openly admitting he is dirty br kek
>>741520061T8 whining is the next level of bitchiness, it's like everyone is DSP when it comes to talking about T8.>>741519989idk why this game is so memed for it. this game fucking sucks
>>741519771>The FGC also hates the Strive fanbase because it's notoriously made of drama queen trans people (see: Umisho being banned/unbanned),The strive fanbase also largely hates umisho, and then you have leffen who's not a tranny but might as well mentally be one, if not worse>There's also a lot of people who got pissed off at ArcSys for years of Happy Chaos fuckery, broken lobbies, no ranked, launch issues, etc.This is legit and I shit talk the game over this despite how much I like itThe patches might be good, and then the next patch they do shit like giving Ramlethal easier knockdowns off fS that don't require counterhit/crouching when she already had some of the best conversions in the game at that range
>>741478880>>741477809It's emulating the shit anime remake that's currently airing, it's like that there tooHe also doesn't have Musou Tensei or any techniques from later on in the game due to this anime not getting to that part yet lol
>>741520220>idk why this game is so memed for itbecause when the pandemic happened and people couldnt go play offline and there was no rollback at the time everyone in the fgc start playing ffxiv
>>741520196Why are you retarded? I was playing on the Primal server so maybe I accidentally chose the huehue server.
>>741479669You get hit with a staff in the head and you tend to die or come out with head damage.SNK also has fighters that are gods, brought back from the dead multiple times, super soliders, create lighting out of thin air, and host of other things. Guy who punches fast and can kill is right at home.
>>741511612>5k games that can combo and frametrap but like on defense and in neuch are like botsthis is the most common online fighting game player
>Got my first ever double perfect praise me
>>741484675i'll have to keep practicing
>>741507316I hope you're not American, then, buddy.
I have no idea how anyone can play SF2 in 2026. SF2 is such a shit game in terms of today's standards
>can only damage robo ky with supersthat fight was a cockXX is a much much better game than X, what an improvement, getting the different endings is really fun
>>741497303>t.never played garou and pretends that he does.I hate you larpers so fucking much.
>>741520905congratulates you in your general direction
>>741497896The literal two best selling fighting game franchises of all time are literally riddled with guest characters. You have Smash. Which is literally what you hate. And MK. Which likely was the influence for SF6 to do it as well as add a world tour that wasted everybody's time.After that, you have Link being so iconic that he has ruined any way for SoulCalibur to win any kind of reputation because "The best one was the one with Link in it". This is something that would become a staple of the series as the IP would chase the success of 2.AFTER THAT, you have internal guest games, such as KOF. And LITERALLY, Marvel vs. Capcom as a fucking staple of the genre.You don't like guest characters? Brother, how the fuck did you get here then? Ronaldo hate, I get. But you sound like such a fucking tool.
>>741521150its better than 3rd strike, the only thing thats shit is the archaic prox throw system
>>741521318one of the most retarded posts I've seen in these threads in a while, congratulations anon
>>741520905I got double perfect'd by a Jam yestarday. I literally couldn't do anything because she kept spamming that one fucking move where she does a fiery stomp.
>>741489647
WAS THAT A FUCKING MIDAIR EX GRAB?!
>>741521484And yet you can't argue against it. Because you know I'm right, you fucking retard.
>>741521519seeing SFV fanboys have meltdowns is the funniest shit ever
>>741519380You look at Strive and you look at older Guilty Gears and you can't fathom why anybody would hate what the series turned into?
>>741521318>And MK. Which likely was the influence for SF6 to do it as wellMK9 made the whole industry waste time doing cinematic story modes and guests, SF4 made the whole industry do long ass cinematic supers and comeback mechanics. Incredible how 2 games completely fucked up the genre for years.
>>741521573I'm not the anon you replied to but what is there to argue about? you just went down on some retarded what aboutism road by yourself, what do you expect?
Eh, the roster looks way more appealing to me now.We know the characters they are going to add next or we need to wait for a Evo reveal?
>>741521808Do you clearly lack media literacy? Hating guest characters is retarded in a genre that has always had them.
>>741521318Nah SC2 is legendary for its speed and general game feel. Arcade version was massively popular back in the day and lacked Link (or any of the guests for that matter) in it.
>>741521871>video game roster>media literacyyou're too lost in the sauce, calm down, you're dropping your buzz words like spaghetti
How have to be mentally ill to play SF2 competitively or pick up SF2 today and play it competitively
>>741521861Rick Strowd and the movie guy are confirmed. I haven't kept up with the datamining but I know from the beta people had datamined Kasumi, dunno if she would come now or later.
>>741522029Damn, Strowd (I love Vanessa) and Kasumi are great picks too.
>>741477223what gaym is this??
>>741522226Fatal Fury: City of the Wolves
>>741519380>I never see the same reaction towards SF6 or T8nigga what lmfao, if anything strive is probably the most tolerable out of the 3 at this point
>>741521861Cant fucking stand what they did to Kain in this shit game
>>741515653ggs. Maybe I should just give up and play on the discord again to get used to low delay koha before I can pull her out in high ping matches. Also I have to someday make it a habit to do feint after 236A so I can be like -2 instead of fucking -13.Also seriously was it my imagination or did the game bug out and you somehow ended up doing an ex bite in the air?>>741517595btw I'd suggest doing IH instead of raw bloodheat. LAs are a meme and in IH you can threaten with Len's busted AD.
>>741519771i remember when stive game out i was thinking with the gatling system being gutted we would have dark stalker like combos where you do a chain and then you link the next part of your combo to keep it going, i was sorely fucking mistaken. i'm still mad that they got rid of the nicest feeling systems in fighting game history
>>741514039ggs I decided to try pushing through and learning sats' delay on ries since I labbed out a couple of stuff that half moon couldn't dobut I wish I had landed shield or even 22A punish on your ex pilebunker but oh well, there's always next timealso I will mash sometimes on your hopkick pressure I'm still not sure how to do it correctly but it seems to work sometimes so fuck yeah>>741521551lol yeah I throw it out sometimes just to fuck with people, I'd say it has only landed like twice in all my games>>741517595ggs man thanks for the games
>>741513223I don't agree with removing crush but I will concede for the sake of the argument. But how would you even remove clashes? Do they just trade, then?Roll is good enough. you can use it to gain a bit of spacing against fireballs, straight up beat some stuff and also get a read on a fH or even fM
>>741477223soul calibur has the best announcer
>>741522314isn't that the trannybot?
>>741522447she's a futanari.
>>741522328what happened? he was my main guy in Garou
>>741522435the xrd announcer is my homie
>>741522540NTA but the plot didn't go in the direction Garou was hinting. It all ended up way too lighthearted and Kain isn't that much of a villain.
>>741522435HnK, SFA3, 3S, MK2 and MK3 have the best announcers
>>741522605Xrd has the best announcer because you can set it as in character character voices
>>741522836Bedman announcer was so fucking good
Speaking of announcers, I'm still mad at Tekken 8 hiring this womanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9D72ghgb9wand only having her for trailers and story.
>>741521861Man I did not realize how few women there were in the roster
>>741522383>air okThat is utterly cursed. What the fuck Kamone>it seems to work sometimeslike I mentioned last time, technically I am plus but it's a 1f window and I'm a dumbass who knows that I should press 2A but my fingers keep on doing j9[C].>22A punishI don't think you can't do that when I cancel it off buttons cuz it's a ~1-4f gap (or more if staggered) depending on what button it's cancelled from.
>>741521861our heroes
>>741512775Needing to grow means you're a faggot thats why.
>>7415230266 women for 24 characters is crazy, lmao
>>74152319028*
There is nothing more embarrassing than than going 0-2 on livestream
>>741522424>But how would you even remove clashes? Do they just trade, then?Yep. It's how I'd prefer it. Nothing feels more insulting to me trying to push out of a certain scenario only to lose, get counter hit, and eat a full combo, end of match for having my jab get clashing with another button and not immediately spamming a DP. I'd rather it just trade and go back to neutral quick instead of a stupid mini game.>Roll is good enoughI really don't think so but before going further I do play KOF so I'm drawing a comparison between the two systems. Do keep in mind though, I'm speaking from a lot of frustration here of learngin the game and the roll being more often than not worthless as an option to get out of situations.Also I forgot to mention but make reversals consistently punishable across the board, holy fuck.
>>741523305>Nothing more embarrasing than going 2-0*Ftfy
>>741523026>>741523190And the only woman missing from the roster from the old games is Xiangfei, maybe Tsugumi if you count the 3D spin-off and Alice from the pachinko. Now look at the roster for SNK's Buriki One.
>>741523026Before Garou, the only Fatal Fury ladies were Mai, Blue Mary, and Xiangfei (and Tsugumi if you counted Wild Ambition).
>>741523332Galleon with 3 bowling balls...
>>741523190I feel like the standard ratio is about 2/3rds male. Anime leaning more towards a female cast but they're not usually still not in the majority unless it's a straight up waifu fighter. Melty Blood might be the only fighter I know with a larger female ratio that isn't a straight up waifu fighter. Blazblue's like an exact 50/50 split or something?
>>741523486>I feel like the standard ratio is about 2/3rds male.That's a very modern way of thinking and FF is a boomer franchise that died before being modernized. Back then the token female was as big of novelty as a character like Blanka or Dhalsim, because the idea of a cute woman participating in a fight with muscular grown men was wild. Chun-Li's whole characterization was being the strongest woman in the world, which qualified her for fighting against men but only with weighted spiked bracelets.
>>741523332>Yep. It's how I'd prefer it.I see. I prefer clashes, I think they can lead into funny situations even if I will never have the reaction to throw on close clashes so I always lose. But I can see why you don't like it.>I really don't think so but before going further I do play KOF so I'm drawing a comparison between the two systems. Do keep in mind though, I'm speaking from a lot of frustration here of learngin the game and the roll being more often than not worthless as an option to get out of situations.I don't play KoF so I don't know how it is there. I believe being not too strong but still useful is a good state to be in for system mechanics. But some people do complain that this leads into needless knowledge checks, ie, ''this is beaten by evade, this is beaten by roll'' >Also I forgot to mention but make reversals consistently punishable across the board, holy fuck.what are you having trouble with? hDPs and uDPs work differently, but I imagine you know that.
>>741522328Kain's apparently a good guy. Unless he means when they mechanically cut off his legs because he was top 2.
Granblue is around a 50/50 split
>>741523098Salvatore feels like a character instead of a person, despite his kit being incredibly unstable. I'll be honest. Ronaldo is all over the place from having a fun kit to absolutely having no character behind the man. A shame.
>>741522328I too am angry about charge erasure.
>>741523728>Chun-Li's whole characterization was being the strongest woman in the world, which qualified her for fighting against men but only with weighted spiked bracelets.I don't think the intention was quite that when Chun-Li calls herself the strongest woman in the world.
>Silver Rank ass nigga, genuinely ass at Ffighting games despite playing them for a significant part of my life>the Family account i'm playing at has Cammy in Master rank>so despite losing all my placement matches i stlll end up in Diamond 1 or Plattinum 5This system fucking sucks.
>>741523739>, I think they can lead into funny situationsI guess it really is just a matter of preference. I really can't stand it personally. >I don't play KoF so I don't know how it is there. I believe being not too strong but still useful is a good state to be in for system mechanics. But some people do complain that this leads into needless knowledge checks, ie, ''this is beaten by evade, this is beaten by roll'' It's completely invul frame 1 but still has recovery at the end so can be punished for someone that's paying attention and also fully vulnerable to throws/command throws the whole time. So while useful it's not insufferable to deal with. As you mentioned, it leads to less obnoxious knowledge checks that make me wanna bang my head against the wall.>what are you having trouble with? hDPs and uDPs work differently, but I imagine you know that.Just a lot of reversals and supers having wildly different recovery for no real reason. Charlotta's DP needing to be blocked crouching to get anything while Anila's can get a 66H punish. It's annoying. Remember watching a video after picking up the game talking about this and finding out I wasn't crazy for thinking reversals were too safe.https://youtu.be/YazYR0ivyCI
>>741523847Salvatore IS a character, the guy's a an eastern european roleplaying as an italian, and they put his larp in the game.
>>741524154Makes sense. I know very little on him beyond the short videos he has on his YT channel. Its so obviously a persona to the point that saying he's a "real person" feels like missing the forest for the trees since Balrog is right there being an obvious Mike Tyson impersonation.
>>741498362Pretty much, any tekken refugees are gonna hate it and anyone who thinks it's going to save the FGC is on cope
>>741524116>It's completely invul frame 1 but still has recovery at the end so can be punished for someone that's paying attention and also fully vulnerable to throws/command throws the whole time.but that's exactly how rolls work in granblue too, with the exception that they are weak to lows, so only upper body invul instead of fully invul
>>741524302>but that's exactly how rolls work in granblue too, with the exception that they are weak to lows, so only upper body invul instead of fully invulI remember hearing they're vulnerable until the 3rd or 4th frame of startup so you'll get hit out of it. But the lower body vulnerability makes it generally a terrible option with how many moves how on the low end otherwise. Shame we're on page 10 cause would talk mroe about it.
>>741523402Since they are probably going to add the movie villain and they don't have a lot of women, they can put this one in it, kek
How knowledge checky are you okay with a game being? I used to really hate them but since VS had its resurgence I've been checking out the game and it's knowledge check city but it's kind of fun since everyone has such different properties.