>800k views in two weeks What went wrong?
>Tedious as fuck RPG: part 3and forget about the story.
3 times as many ubisoft towers and chadley yapping
>>741477364Design by committee, but also design by a bunch of fruity soulless liberal urbanites (even if Japanese). The bite of the original game is completely gone. The remake shit has completely spun out of any conceivable orbit from which the landing can be saved after what Remake and Rebirth were. It's a bleak shitty disappointment.
>>741477573the chadley shit is so legitimately fucking bad, idk why they thought having some retard phonecall you and stop the game after doing anything was a good idea
Should've just made FFX-3 with Jecht and the gang instead of wasting THREE FUCKING GAMES remaking the quintessential LARP FF entry.
>>741477364Instead of making the actual remake of Final Fantasy VII that everybody wanted, they made a sequel to the Compilation of Final Fantasy VII that nobody wanted.
>>741478721>quintessential LARP FF entry.FF7 is the opposite of the larp FF. that's V and VI
>>741477364>What went wrong?People played Remake and Rebirth
>>741477364For comparison, a 30 second video revealing just the box cover of GTA6 got 10x that
>>741477364I mean, just look at how Rebirth did compared to the first part. There's a steady fall off.
>>741479246I still think about how GTAV literally makes more money than some entire countries' GDPAnd the problem with SE right now is that this is how they imagine themselves. Like they think it's still the 90s and they are untouchable juggernauts with infinite moneyfucking retards
>>741479246>cattle are easily amusedWowEpicEbin
>>741479389>makes a shit load of money>uses their own launcher on PC>still cucks to SteamFunniest shit.
FF7 is an unc game. That alone will bring in lower views. And anyone who wants to play part 3 doesn't need a trailer, they need a release date.
>>741477364Nobody gives a fuck about final troon in 2026
>>741477521>>741477573>>741478667God you people are such retarded losers with the shittiest taste.Gaming is FUCKED because zoomers like you ruin everything.
>>741477364
>>741477579I love her in ff8
>>741477364>a worthless censored unfaithful remake of a game from a dead series who's last real positive entry was over 25 years ago made by a longtime dead developer that lacks any sort of self awareness and continues to make worse and worse games.
>>741477364only 35+ old people such as myself care about this series anymore
>>741477364Imagine if they released FF7 one disc at a time 26 years ago. It would have tanked then too.
>>741477573Even the most diehard fan doesnt defend Chadley, id hope at least. I see people bitching about Wuk Lamat in Dawntrail (perfectly valid that character is fucking garbage) but I bet Chadley has like 2 times the amount of dialogue than the entire fucking party COMBINED
>>74148063940 here. I dont give a two shit about it. grew out of it decades ago. How do you be 15 and above and be interested in JRPG?
>>741480770I never grew past the age of 15 mentally.
>>741480770sameIt was cool to play as a child, first on PSX, and then in 2007 on PSP. Now I just don't care anymore.
>>741477364SE is desperate and done for.
>>741481182Spoken like a true FGCuck, bitch and moan about any character getting announced for their preferred fightan game, wether it's a new character, and old returning one or a guest character. Hell, there are far more Tifags who have been clamoring for her to be in a fightan game than there has ever been any other character new or old.
>>741477364Squandered decades of goodwill by being incompetent retards. Many such cases.
>>741477364They had a chance in 2020. But greed, as usual, overcame common sense. Rest in piss.
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>>741482049Now post Rebirth sales.
>>741482330You don't get to make demands tendiesalescuck, you post them.
>>741482330https://automaton-media.com/en/final-fantasy/final-fantasy-7-rebirth-is-selling-well-no-need-to-worry-about-the-trilogys-finale-director-naoki-hamaguchi-says/
>>741477364>Who cares if it's not a 1 to 1 remake, we get to see more of the characters!>Who cares if the pacing is horrendous, we get to see more of the characters!>Who cares if the game is bloated with filler and shitty minigames, we get to see more of the characters!>Who cares if there's a bunch of retcons, we get to see more of the characters!>Who cares if the writing is complete shit, we get to see more of the characters!>Who cares that they keep butchering all of the memorable/iconic scenes, we get to see more of the characters!>Who cares that it's actually a sequel and that they called it a remake knowing everyone wanted and waited for a remake and not a sequel, we get to see more of the characters!>Who cares that it's split into 3 parts and that you have to pay full price (and buy a new console) for every part, we get to see more of the characters!>Who cares that they made Red XIII sound like a complete faggot, we get to see more of him!>Who cares that they completely ruined Cid and that him and Vincent aren't playable, we get to see more of them!>Who cares that they completely massacred Aerith's death (arguably the most iconic death in video game history), we get to see more of her now!>Who cares that Sephiroth lacks everything that made him loved and iconic, we get to see him nonstop now!>Who cares if the boss fights are discount mmo raids, we get to see more of the characters!>Who cares that you have to play some dogshit gacha game to understand the nonsensical plot, we get to see more of the characters!>Who cares that this killed the chances of us getting proper FF remakes ever again, we get to see more of the characters!This is what faggots that defend the demake sound like
>>741482385It's funny because tendie jannies ban threads of games that are too popular
>>741477364Square loves to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, any other competent AAA studio would've remade the entire story in 4-6 years
>>741482385I'm not that anon, but I think you're ridiculously ignorant if you think anyone who dislikes this piss poor demake slop, outsourced to Indians, only dislikes it because they prefer Nintendo.Both Square Enix and Nintendo hasn't made a decent game for decades, and you should feel bad for enjoying trash.
>>741477364People are sick of bad action games. The children long for actual RPGs.
>>741477364Don't you have a general thread to derail?
>>741482541>Both Square Enix and Nintendo hasn't madeFunny you should bring up Indians, Sandeep.
>>741482541And maybe it's time you dislodged the dicks you've been spitroastin' and stopped pretending you had "standards" when it comes to having fun in video games. Disliking a game is fine, going out your way to shit and piss on anyone for liking something you don't is schizo behaviour but maybe you were aiming to be the next bazzkek after all then more power to you.
>>741482834>going out of your heckin WAAAY tho!Not an argument. I had to literally type for 2 seconds, and you disliking trash being criticized as trash means you're a trash apologist and trash enjoyer lol.
>Rebirth is selling w-ACK!
>>741482960>N-n-n-no y-you.....Not an rgument indeed, maybe one day you'll learn to have fun. Here, my last (You) don't spend it all at once.
>>741483002KEK!I was 10 years old in 1997 when I got FF7 for Christmas and played it as my first RPG ever.I have a huge amount of nostalgia and love for FF7 as a result, and if I had the choice, I'd absolutely nuke current day Square without a second thought.They've degraded this game's legacy so badly it's just sad, not to mention producing nothing but shit ever since they joined with Enix.For example the OG Kingdom Hearts was great because it was still created by Squaresoft, then KH2 was the gayest fucking shit on the planet and that series only got worse with time.>>741482450well said.
>>741483142>you should learn to have fun with slop like I DO!!!No thanks. Keep pretending you have taste though. You might finally convince yourself.
>>741480182She was supposed to be the mature one but then went and had woman moment during the mission and got everyone in jail.
>>741483267Same here, was a fan from 90's onward. Considered FF7 my favorite game for many years. The feeling is very similar to that of Star Wars, where they ruined everything so bad with the new movies that in 2017 I couldn't even be interested in Star Wars anymore despite being a lifelong fan.The walkie-talkie filler of remake made me decide that I'd never buy the other parts. Them not releasing the Yuffie DLC on PS4 made me boycott Square for the rest of my life. They said they were keeping FF7 exclusive to PS so I naively bought a PS4 to play it because I was already on PC by then. Square can fuck off and die.
>>741479605This guy posts to enjoy the captchas
>>741477364More of the same. It’s fine and expected, but doesn’t make me want to watch the trailer again after already playing the first two
>>741479605these games are made for zoomers though
>>741477364I'll find out where they decided to finally and fully shit the bed when the game comes out, I don't care about open world slop ff
>>741481182>she said this then get excited for a literal who seamonkeyFighting chuds have to understand that they are playing dead genre. Be grateful that companies even do collab
>Walks on stage at Summer Games fest>Mute claps>"I'M BACK!">Muted claps that end abruptly>"WHO?" in Youtube and Twitch livestream chat of the eventHe tried to do a Kojima but he forgot one important thing, no one gives a shit about Hamaguchi and they've milked FF7 to death and back that barely anyone cares about that property anymore.
>>741477364They split it into 3 slow paced shit games instead of 1 fast paced good game.
>>741483534that's the price you have to pay for pretty girls
>>741483878brehbreh, Death Stranding sold even less than FF7R and they had to announce total players as a milestone instead after making the game free on PSN and EGS. DS2 barely sold 2 million in over a year. Cuckjimbos is irrelevant.
>>741484260DS sold 19 million copies you coping retard
>>741484260WHO? Are you back? Kek. I like to play back the reveal of Capcom's Resident Evil Code Veronica and how hype the audience and live chats were compared to how muted the claps were for FF7revelations.Shows how irrelevant that franchise has made itself.
>>741477364Did part 2 even sell well on the PS5? If not, then that wouldn't have helped either
>>741484370the audience clapped the loudest for dead nigger rappers so...
>>741484353Lolno it didn't you fucking mong.
>>741479605Actually as a zoomie zoom zoom myself I appreciate the OG more, since it's not a retarded, dumbed down version of the story.I GENUINELY couldn't get through the first remake, and I almost never drop the games I play.
>>741477364The GTA VI hype is big right?Imagine if they Split the Game in 3 parts like final fantasy VII remake.The first part has a small part of the city and some of the story ,the hype is huge.Years later the second part with more content people are more mad than Happy. By the third part like 8 years later with the full map people have already forgot GTA viTldr they killed the cow by milking It too much.
>>741484260It's kind of a dishonest comparison though, isn't it?Remake of the most popular game of one of the most popular IPs ever, adapted to have a broader audience via a simplified gameplay, versus 2 games that aren't even 10 years old and have a much more "niche" gameplay loop.
>>741477364FFVII fatigue is real and disc 3 was boring as fuck. It's just Cloud going into a schizoid episode.
>>741484370The entire remake trilogy will be forgotten after a month when it's finally done, doomed to only be discussed by the obsessive nohopers who cling to this IP due to an unhealthy attachment to the characters. The world will move on, but this dwindling group of autistic balding millennials will still insist the trilogy was a phenomenal success and continue discussing it like the shit movie that came out 20 years ago that nobody but them cares about.tl;dr: The OG will continue to be a classic, the remake trilogy will be tossed on the garbage pile like all other compilation trash.
>>741485062This, except replace the word "millenials" with "zoomers" because millenials are the ones who actually grew up with, and respect, the original.
>>741485062How rabid the remaining die-hard fans for the Remake trilogy are, it's put people off not just FF7 but FF as a franchise in it's entirety. Seen too many places and people brow beat into playing the two Remake games and pretending to like them because a handful of extremely loud people won't stop posting about it. As you say, that's all who will remember it fondly when all is said and done. It's been split over too long a time period, broken apart into three games with countless spin-offs and merch properties no one even knows what the fuck FF7 is anymore.
>>741485302actually I take it back, because there's some decent zoomers with taste as well.>>741485062replace the word "millenials" with "trannies and weebs"
>>741477364The novelty of remaking even a once beloved game does tend to go away when you divide it into episodes and worse you blatantly change the story for the worse which makes fans angry.And anyone else notice that the new trailer for Kingdom Hearts also has terrible views? Merely a little over one single million? And this isn't a remake its a new game you'd think that after four years of radio silent this Kingdom Hearts 4 trailer would have done much better. Square Enix is in real trouble since their pillar series are somewhat losing their buzz.The only trailer that performed well was the Dragon Quest 12 new trailer BUT it performed well at nearly three million views exclusively with Asian markets because we all know Europe and Americans give no fucks about Dragon Quest.Square Enix is in serious trouble if its going to get ugly once the novelty of FF7 Remake ends because there is no guarantee that will sell well. And neither will Kingdom Hearts 4. Honestly by now Square Enix may want to look into a merger at least for their gaming division. What else can they even do? Remake Chrono Trigger? That's not enough to rescue their entire gaming division. Dare I say it not even Sega and Konami are in such tense situations.
>>741485325People used to get into FF7 because Cloud and Sephiroth looked cool and they heard it was a good game. Nowadays the conversations around FF7 are 5 hour deep dive theorycrafting autism or really bitter and aggressive ship wars. Who gives a shit? How does this attract new people?
>>741477364>surely people will care about our game if we stretch it out over 7 years and filter most people when the yuffie dlc and rebirth were stuck on ps5 which nobody owned
>>741477364FF7 Remake teaser broke the internet.A real FF7 Remake would have sell like crazy. Instead they changed the art direction, the story, the gameplay, and split it in three different games.I've played the first and it was an absolute crap. Now I just enjoy so called FF7 fans youtubers trying their best to convince people that this retarded project is somewhat a masteclass from Squix.The funniest thing ? A real remake would have been simpler to create.
>>741479605>it's based and uncpilled to want your not-a-remake broken into 3 full priced cash grabs with stale 4 niggas in a row and shovelware mini games to pad it outkill yo self :pray:
>>741477364>FF7 but bad: part 3gee i wonder what went wrong
>>741477364You might as well ask why people hate current star wars. There will always be braindead fanboys who will slurp up everything and anything they get, but for most people, they're just not that interested. FFVII was a good game, and has a good story and characters, but not everyone who played it has the capacity for 100s of hours of never ending FFVII slop. The hate is nothing compared to the indifference. You should be more worried about the people who just don't care anymore than about the people who are (rightfully) calling the remakes shit
>>741485526>How does this attract new people?They say they don't care and will tell you they don't but then spend years trying to get their favorite streamer to play FF7r trilogy.
>>741485385>>741485497I haven't played much of KH, but from what I've seen, KH3 looked like the big finale of the series, so I think that's why people don't care much about KH4.
Was watching people crying over the ffx ending on youtube.Is square penis even capable of making such games any more?
>>741485615Anyone claiming the FF7 Remake was exactly what they wanted from an FF7 Remake would have been saying the exact same thing no matter what they got
>>741485589>if we stretch it out over 7 yearsGame dev really has slowed down to a crawl. We were on FFX-2 when FF7 OG was 7 years old.
>It should've been one part!Would've been a PS4 era game with no capability to do airship travel like Revelation unless they made it ugly chibi sprites again and there would be no point of a remake if they did that.
>>741477364Final fantasy was a legitimate culture back at the start-mid of the 2000s. Retro gaming was JUST becoming a thing with GBA rereleases and burgeoning boom or emulation + googleable romsites on home computers, the PS2 was natively backwards compatible, the first crop of internet content creators were all NES-SNES era Gen Xers, and their consistent content release schedule meant that Final Fantasy as a brand identity created its own ecosystem - every track brought with it its own music and characters, you don't get to create a new Dissidia unless you have another dozen iconic dudes to merchandise.Legitimately makes me sad, since the era of 1-12 was so darn cohesive and it just made me happy to see all those goobers I'd spent hundreds of hours with showing up in Kingdom Hearts or having their leitmotifs showing up in sick ass prog / instrumental rock bands headed by the composer himself. 2000s square was a master class in masturbatoraly codifying and deifying itself, but the moment they slammed into the HD era and hit the breaks on content production, the it's-only-been-a-couple-years-and-we-still-have-the-sparks-from-the-last-title series spirit that'd been consistently passed from title to title just sputtered out. There's no getting it back at this point, Square was simply a powerhouse that couldn't keep it up beyond the creative lifespan of its key visionaries - it's just been an outlet for Nomura for decades now, and while the dude's got his strengths, Final Fantasy can't exist as itself without him being tempered down to just an aspect of production
>>741485924>what we got was perfect and everything we didn't get would have been shit!That's convenient
Once the local tardwrangler left Square it was never the same.
>>741485717Closest they got in recent years for tear jerker moments was FF16 a couple of parts in that, and FF14 a good few parts in that. But the games themselves, as fun games to play leave much to be desired. FFX works because it's still a fun game not just a 'story game' which is what FF14 and FF16 turned into with minimal rpg elements.
>>741477364Not enough focus on Red XIII, obviously
>>741486008You either get a pointless remake that looks like modded FF7 OG and adds nothing or you get the current remake trilogy there's no inbetween.
>>741486209>pointless remakeAnd what's the "point" of the one we got?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW1uFD81Fvwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3OtFE5mZe4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbsfQYI_IIY>significantly more views than FLOP DEVELATIONTURN BASED GODS WONSTAGGERSLOP GARBAGE LOST
>>741482541>Nintendo hasn't made a decent game for decadesThe game that has been making /v/ fly into a fit of blind rage for the past decade is a masterpiece.
>>741483002>muh stocksEveryone is in the red regardless of performance.
>>741486284This is worse it's a repurposed gacha fanservice slop game with phantom legacy characters standing behind the generic cast.
>>741477364real time battlescringethat's about it
>>741486209wrong.If it was made by people with half a brain, an actual remake would be amazing, and although it would be a very similar experience to playing the original, it could have higher resolution, tasteful and artistic backgrounds for the world/dungeon, better lighting and graphics without sacrificing the original art style to "muh realism", and higher quality instruments for the same composed songs that would please fans of the original so much more than all the unnecessary changes the demake offered.It would have cost them millions less to make, while still being way above something a simple modder could output, and would have sold WAY more.
>>741477364it didn't learn from E33
>>741486316>I like slop with shit music, cringe voice acting, and retarded plot.Thanks for sharing. No one asked nu-zelda tranny.
>>741485325>How rabid the remaining die-hard fans for the Remake trilogy are, it's put people off not just FF7 but FF as a franchise in it's entiretyYou guys are more rabid.
>>741486284My interest actually went down instead of up when I saw Cloud. Ff7 fatigue is real.
>>741486467>it could have higher resolution, tasteful and artistic backgrounds for the world/dungeon, better lighting and graphics without sacrificing the original art style to "muh realism"That's not what people wanted, square made a fake tech demo FF7 trailer with realistic graphics years ago and people went crazy over it that's why they went this direction to begin with.
>>741479246>>741479424
>>741486530>/v/ermins cries about BOTW for 10 straight yearsKWAB
>>741486569>You guys are more rabidNever seen an ff7 shipper thread huh?
>>741486569Says the guy who will be replying to every mean post about 7R to set them straight for several hours again today.>>741486608Hello again.
>>741477364No domestic abuse no buy.Simple as.
>>741486608A small portion of people went crazy over it to be exact.More people would have "gone crazy over it" if square released a teaser for an actual remake in the original's style, but Square wants to impose what they think fans want, not what they actually want.You think you know what people wanted. You're very obviously wrong.
>>741486701Exactly what I wanted just coincidently happened to be exactly what we got. What are the odds? And every possible alternative would have been bad and pointless.
>>741486660>Says the guy who will be replying to every mean post about 7R to set them straight for several hours again todayYou're having one of your iconic schizo fantasies.
i have not played any of them but they look shitty. I saw screenshots of a brightly lit, boring, brown Midger with a bright blue sky years ago and it looked like ass and completely killed my enthusiasm for the game.
>>741479465This
7R defenders love to tell you doing the remake any other way would have been pointless, but they never tell you what the point of the current remake is. Just to be different? There's lots of ways to do that.
>>741486760The topic wasn't about what you personally wanted as a microscopic percentage of the population.We're talking about what the vast majority of FF7 fans would have wanted, and it very obviously wasn't what they were served: a plate of dogshit by Square.Nice to know you're happy with it though lol what exquisite taste you have.
>>741477364>800k views in two weeks>What went wrong?
>>741477364The first remake was perfect. They should’ve kept 2 and 3 linear. It would also be cheaper to makeThe ubishit open world ruined 2 for me.
>>741486760What you wanted is apparently Dragon Quest VII reimagined that's what the alternate reality FF VII remake would be like.
>>741486892You would have complained no matter what SE did. But people like me and my friend ITT would have loved it no matter what SE did. Linear? Open world? Makes no difference to us, we'd love it and consider anyone with a conplaint, regardless of what it was, wrong by default.
>>741486968>m-me and my hecking amillion friends in this thread backing me up!!everyone believes you.You keep pretending no one would have liked an actual remake. Do you repeat that over and over as you fall asleep each night or what?Talk about delusional. Keep saying it if it helps your mental stability I guess.
>>741486968>I'll eat dogshit no matter WHAT FLAVOR IT IS!>VIVA LA SQUARE HECKIN ENIX! HAHA I'm totally not a shill doing damage control by the way!
>>741487013>million friendsNo it's just one other guy who is also telling everyone who wanted something different that they are wrong.
>>741486854I sort of like it but they royally fucked it up by segmenting the game. Having each game reset your fucking characters is dumb a shit.
I've been replaying Remake so I could finally play Rebirth in preparation for the final part, and it is really getting on my nerves just how drawn-out everything is. Whenever in the OG you would've walked around for like 3 screens and maybe visited a shop, you are instead given a huge hub full of quests and random NPCs saying unimportant slop nonsense.
>>741487161>me and my VPN telling people they're wrong about their own preferences even though me and my VPN are in the minority with our opinion on the demake.wow. POWERFUL!
>>741477364final trantasy was never good
>>741487207I have my hopes up that they will release all three game in a single collection that (hopefully) allows you to maintain a consistent level/item/materia progression from the bombing mission until you defeat Sephiroth.I get that doing this over the course of years of development isn't really feasible, but people who actually want to play through the entire FF7R experience will probably not enjoy their level and equipment resetting TWICE.
>>741486209I got my FF9 remake with the dedicated group of people behind the Moguri Mod. It's better than anything Square Enix are capable of while still remaining faithful and true to the original.
>>741487213Having 3 screens in the largest city in the world isn't a good look for a 2020 game.
>>741487229It's not me, it's my friend. Look, here he is again: >>741487359He will very reasonably explain to anyone who wanted the remake to be different in any way why they are wrong.
>>741487428no one gives a shit what you think someone else's preference should be especially when you're clearly in the minority with the vast majority disliking the demake.
>>741487359It's not that 3 screens becomes a town/city to explore, it's that 5-10 minutes of traversal and random battles becomes 60+ minutes of cutscenes and filler.
>>741479605chadley is a fucking zoomer slop character nigga
>>741477364Minigames and nigger couples killed Rebirth.
>>741487593That, and the different tone. Rebirth has lower rating, is more chill and family friendly.
>>741487558He's 100% a Hamaguchi self insert.
>>741485062Spitting true facts
>>741477364My limit for having to re-level my characters and materia and get the same equipment back was zero times. For others it seems to be one time. I play RPGs to see my character get stronger, not to have all my progress wiped.
>>741477364>Have to spend $200-240 to play the whole thing>Also they are all sequels, so if you want to play the 3rd part you need to play Rebirth, Remake, the OG 1997 game and probably Reunion + watching AC too.No one buy the most diehard millenial fans are interested in this.It's the same thing as KH4, where you'll need to play like 10 games to play it.And then they talk about wanting to capture a modern audience, SE is run by retards.
>>741485934>Celtic MoonGood choice. FF always did have some good arranged albums.
omg is them some heckin YOUTUBE NUMBERS!?Count me in, friendo!!
>>741485675fair
only Tobal can save Square Enix now
What an useless, garbage thread
>>741493746Boo hoo. Go watch Max and read a few Genki tweets to cheer yourself up.
I really want to like these games but I fucking can't stand the battle system, anytime I try to dodge I get hit anyway, the enemies having fucking heat seeking homing on all their attacks, I can't block anything because blocking needs to wait for the animation lock to finish and by the time that happens I've been hit, the ATB system just feels clunky as fuck like instead of picking turn based or action they said fuck it lets take the worst parts of both!
>>741494035It's like that in part 1 but Rebirth made the dodging and blocking a lot better
>>741482774He brought it up because SE outsources most their shit to street shitters.
>>741483534she's not supposed to be the mature one, she's supposed to be the gifted child that has been forcibly moved up in society too early and struggles with it
>>741477364You forgot these 12+ Million views, Jimbo.
>>741480770unc not feeling your videogame opinions frgb2 nursing home
>>741494160Nice work, let's hope this secures that sale
surely SQ knows that only a subset of FF7R players of a subset FF7 R2 players will play FF7 R3it was a fucking retarded idea to begin with
>>741477364>fanfiction-tier writing >elder god-tier levels of cringe>flanderization of iconic characters>supplemental material>hours upon hours of filler>rectons everywhere>too many minigames>song and dance numbers>X-2 dresspheres I hope it makes Square Enix go bankrupt
>>741484260DS is a high budget arthouse game. It's not going to appeal to the dirty masses, least of all americans and bugmen, but will eventually become a beloved cult classic.
I am not saying FF games are bad, but the fanbase likes to pretend people care about the games more than they do. It is a product with a cult following rather than actual popularity
>>741478667>>741479605The Chadley shit is legit anti-gaming. Whoever implemented the idea of having the character interrupt you for 20 secs at a time after completing every task needs to be dragged out to the street and shot. WHY on earth is this a feature? Who play tested this and liked it?
>>741487305I'd love a FFIX remake in style of Memoria Project, but Squeenix could never make anything even remotely as soulful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaMiPb6KiWo
>>741477364Made terrible fanfiction overseen by an ethics committee instead of a faithful remake of the original.
/v/ - numbers and charts
Didn't see much of this "who cares about numbers?" posting constantly having to hear about how many copies remake shipped.If SE announced Rebirth sold 12 million copies tomorrow, I'm sure you'd all remember you don't care about numbers, right?
>>74147736440 hours of minigame bloat. 10 hours of story.
>>741477364that's sad
>Fans DO wat a remake>Make sequel insteadAll they had to do follow the RE2 formula and they couldn't do it.
>>741496792RE2 is a 6 hour game
>>741477364You faggots never appreciate anything good.The church scene in Rebirth with Aerith saying goodbye to Cloud is better than any slop you could recommend. These games aren’t flawless, but they definitely have heart and are made with love for the characters.They better stick the landing with this game though, otherwise all the new shit is going to like a wet fart. And maybe I’m the minority, but I>Like all the new story additions
You know it's a bad look for FF when even something like stellar blade 2 got more views. It reeks like star wars trying to be relevant to modern audiences and just promptly shrugging like how hard that new mandalorian movie flopped because zoomers would rather watch zoomer horror movies.
>>741497219>These games aren’t flawlessWhat makes you say that?
>>741486316Are you going to make another thread shitting on it to pretend it has online presence?
>>741497250Well and Spyro and other indies get more views and sales than Zelda now, and? Remember Hollow Knight brutally mogging Metroid?
>>741486530But enough about the FF7 remake trilogy.
>>741477364Maybe people are waiting to see how Part 3 turns out instead of wasting both their time and money? OG purists want a 1:1 retelling and Aerith dying is essential to that (as an example), but we have confirmed timelines and enough theories to back up her revival. Her death is pretty much what will make or break the trilogy from what it seems. If she lives a lot of fans think it takes away from the overall message of letting go, and moving on.
>>741497250Why are millennials so fucking repetitive? FF is a boomer ip, it's not weird at all, can't you just accept time passed?
I will be honest, i wouldnt play even my most beloved game in remake. Why would i play remake when i already know how it all ends? They did something interesting at first...and then went back to Aerith dying anyway. Every single person that ever played FF knows that she dies. Oh and they are huge retards for giving snoy exclusivity, as if IT was 2013 or something where playstation still mattered.
>FF7R is bad>Yeah but what about NINTENDO GAMES!What? Isn't this slop on the Switch anyway?
>>741497250FF7 is boomer content tho? if someone was say 12 in 1997 then hes 40+ now
>>741497250>that new mandalorian movie flopped because zoomers would rather watch zoomer horror moviesMore like because they'd rather watch literally anything other than more star wars slop. There isn't even a manufactured woke "outrage" to blame this time. Nobody cares anymore. Big companies see a popular IP and assume the publics hunger for it is bottomless, but it's not. SE really think they can mine FF7 forever, but they can't. Unless you're a hyperautist with an unhealthy obsession with the FF7 cast, you really don't need to see Cloud Vs Sephiroth 100 times. And why should you? They aren't even trying to tell new stories in the FF7 world, they just want to tell the same story slightly differently. EC is the same shit again. Even AC and CC were just digging further into the events of FF7. BC was the same. DoC is the closest we got to a "new" FF7 story and it was rancid garbage. Anyone acting like the lack of interest in FF7 remake part 3 is a mystery has got to be a retard. The real mystery is how it has maintained even the modest fanbase it has.
>>74147736410million live views at summer games fest with 4 trailers in a row, basically you're an idiot sorry.not going to sit here and let indians misrepresent views while saying gta6 has 70+ million for a title screen because of how twitter works when really it has 8 million youtubes and they appear to be botted, because those numbers don't track
>>741497219>and are made with love for the characters.Which ones? Because I haven't seen a single FF7 character in the remake yet.
>>741477364idk I didn't even finish part 1I like FF7, but I am not obsessed with it. Beat it once as a kid and fondly remembered it. When I played Part 1 I mostly just didn't like the story changes and how drawn out everything felt. It has been beaten to death, but part 1 was just the beginning of ff7.I have heard Part 2 is better, but whatever. I don't think this is a series made for me, it is made for super fans.
>>741497601That's my point. Latest japanese analytics and surveys show that most Japanese audiences for FF are in their late 30s+ so millennials, people from the late 80s and 90s, no different from people in the west. For zoomers, millennials are boomers at this point.
>>741497653>tifa is the same shy girl>aerith is the same outgoing girl>cloud is still an autistwhat exactly is the issue here, if anything the remakes expand on their characters and interactions which is a good thing
>>741497623FE7 honestly reminds me of the same thing they do milking evangelion. Even fucking yugioh and other toy companies like gundam knew how to move on.
>>741497623Companies underestimated people aging. Ff7r would have been HUGE if it released 15 years ago
>>741477364people are tired of Final Fantasy slop
>>741497996Honestly even back when FF13 came out, the franchis felt so ancient to me. I just couldn't get into it.
>>741497968They were also banking on intergenerational interest, that fans would convert their children into new fans and repeat the process so they can have entier lineages of piggy banks that would buy their products. Turns out people have been getting increasingly short attention spans and the opposite happened.
>>741497742Those are some amazingly deep character descriptions there. You might as well have said "Cloud is blonde" and "Aeirth is a girl"
>>741497742>the remakes expand on their charactersHow so?
>>741497968>>741498132One of many reasons why splitting it into 3 games was retarded.
>>741497623>The real mystery is how it has maintained even the modest fanbase it has.Regardless of what happens in Revelation it will be defended to the death by people who would have loved it no matter what. All they want is more time with the characters. It doesn't matter if it's tedious, boring, nonsensical, badly written, insulting to their intelligence, utter trash. They could make a 100 hour game set in Seventh Heaven and they'd like it, because they get more time with the characters. At some point fans like them became obsessed with the characters, but don't actually care about the story or the game they're in.Is AC good? No, but it gives us more time with the characters, so they like it.Is BC good? No, but it gives us more time with the characters, so they like it.Is CC good? No, but it gives us more time with the characters, so they like it.Is DC good? No, but it gives us more time with the characters, so they like it.Is 7R good? No, but it gives us more time with the characters, so they like it.
>>741498204you can sell the same thing trice
>>741498252They obviously can't.
>>741498043I'll admit I'm an FF fanboy but the nostalgia has worn off. We need to move on.
>>741498147aerith/tifa have more moments together, same with cloud/tifa and aerith/cloud
>>741498132Intergenerational interest in star wars happened because you could introduce a new generation to star wars by putting on a 2 hour movie. And they kept making silly new aliens and robots to be toys children liked.How the fuck do you pass on FFVII now?>ok there's FFVII but lol that's soooo old so watch a youtube summary of it (6 minutes) and then play remake, a 60 hour game (which is only part 1 of 3)>oh and to get the most out of part 2 you should really check out crisis core, a psp game, yes I'm serious>is it good? no, but the lore is important>oh and there's these side books and some other games>the movie? yeah it's shit but the lore matters, so watch thatYou can blame zoomer attention spans and roblox or whatever else you want to deflect with but seriously you need to ask yourselves why the fuck would anyone be drawn to all this shit unless they weren't already stuck in it. Half the people who are still "fans" are just drowning in sunk cost and grim fascination and don't even like what they're getting anymore. Revelation will, regardless of how it ends, lead to a big "okay I'm out" exodus, but SE are going to keep going with FFVII media. God knows how hopeless the 50 year old aspies who are still clinging on will be like.
>>741477364Even anime like Jujutsu Kaisen and Chainsaw Man clear this uncslop franchise
>zelda game gets a remake>everyone is happy>ff7 gets a remake>people are dividedits almost as if ff7 is an okay game at best and isnt good enough to justify a bloated trilogy that may or may not follow the original
>>741498356Okay so there are more scenes, in what way are their characters expanded?Seems to me the exact same shit we learn about them within 5 minutes stays the same just because we then spend an extra two hours doing pointless shit in the sewers. Have you any actual examples of how their characters are expanded during all this
>>741477364>Mogged by Persona of all thingsSo much for being the King of JRPGs.
90% of OG fans would have been fine with these remakes if they just followed the overall structure, and made some faithful expansions that didn't ruin pacing. Even if it was split into multiple games (though a single game with an E33 style worldmap with tighter locations would have been preferable). But instead they turned it into a bizarre and bloated reboot sequel with jannies/timelines, flanderized characters and a completely broken plot.Obviously there always would have been OG fans that would dislike anything. But it would have had far less hate if it wasn't so incredibly disrespectful
>>741498673I think it's because zelda games were designed to be self contained. For example, persona also manages to remain relevant because each entry is unique to itself with really only the demons being the ones consistent. It has supplementary material too like spin off games but it's largely irrelevant.
Just keep in mind that people used to want to play games like FF7. It makes me sad that we live in an age where Remake and Rebirth are shit on so constantly, because Rebirth is a great fucking game. Ironically, people complain because these games aren’t just “more of the same”, but that’s why I love them.Meanwhile, everyone hypes up: RE remakes, OOT remake, new GTA where you will drive and shoot just like every GTA game.
>>741497580What happened to the idea that all criticism would go away after the game is on all platforms?
>>741477364Check Final Fantasy Resonance instead
>>741477364>Cherrypick>Do a victory lap based upon bad faith results of said cherry-picking.
>>741498829Turns out nobody cared about it in the first place
>>741477364took too fuckin long, nips left me hanging for 10 years so i decided to become successful. now I don't some shitty remake to escape from a shit life. not even worth it to kill time, see rebirth for 25 bucks and repeatedly say to myself that i really don't fucking care.
>>741498807>it's such an injustice that people like other games but not this oneYou really are such a faggot.You can pretend you love something new and unique and different, but you also want to buy the same game three times over, with the same characters from a 30 year old game in them, going through the same story they did 30 years ago.If you want to larp as someone who doesn't settle for "more of the same" then how about liking something ACTUALLY new and not another FF7 game. Someone who didn't want more of the same wouldn't be hyped for revelation, but you'd buy 5 more FF7R games if you could, all while posing as a "bespoke game enjoyer"
>>741477364E33 did it better.
>>741477364Almost 1 million people watched a video... and that's a bad thing? I don't understand your post.
>>741498673FF7 is a fantastic game and the remake on paper should’ve been a knock out the park >split it into three disks >now it’s released all at once >no stupid time janny fanservice bullshit >no padding >no neutering of the darker toned moments >literally keep the exact same structure just add character moments sprinkled through it>at most add extra scenes for rufus/sephiroth and maybe some dirge moments. Boom I crafted the greatest ARPG ever, sure it probably costs a shit ton as well as be like 500GB but I guarantee you the sales would’ve been great
>>741499058If it was a new IP sure, but this is Final Fantasy 7.
>>741477364Nice try fagget but it says 1.2 millions.
Let me be clear, I wanted upgraded graphics to FF7, not a fucking remake. I would've gladly played FF7 RE-imagined, with the same turn based system as the original. When I tried to play this shitty remake I played it for 10 minutes and just noped the fuck out. Shitty games deserve 0 attention.
>>741499091Even in its current state there are only like 1 or 2 Jrpg's better than FF7R in existence.
>>7414991014 million people watched summer game fest live officially plus more when you count streamers broadcasting it on their streams and people watching the taped version after on youtube, everyone has seen Revelation gameplay.
>>741499364Damn, so we can add all those millions of views to EVERY game shown at SGF? And 7R3 is still lagging behind? Owch!
>>741499364The key point being other games got more views.
>>741499364It also made something very clear, most streamers have not played FF7R and had no idea the game even existed till they saw Revelation and were like, what is this?
>>741477364You stupid dickheads…This is only the reveal trailer, which was just the first taste of the full presentation, which is what most people would watch, it’s also been reposted a million times on different channels, including “reactions”, “breakdowns,” etc. When you slice the pie that many times, you’re going to end up with a bunch of tiny pieces.>muh GTAVIYou mean one of the most popular media brands of all time that hasn’t had a new game in almost 15 years, and Rockstar always plays extremely close to the vest?
>>741499091>>no stupid time janny fanservice bullshitzackfags are happy and aerith will live, cope
>Stretch a 30 hour game to 100+ hours>Wonder why people stop caring halfway through
>>741498829it has pretty much gone away except for the Barry-tier schizoes that just spam threads with the same old tiring rethoric.
Ohnonono
>>741499271>le “I played it for 10 minutes…”For one, you’re a fucking liar, and two, you went into it with a chip on your shoulder wanting to hate it.The fact of the matter is that if it had just been a 1:1 of the original, malcontents like you would have just pivoted to bitching about how it was a “lazy cashgrab” and shouldn’t have even bothered wasting the resources, and it would have been forgotten within a month.All I can do is say that I’m glad SE isn’t interested in appeasing you.
Unc series
>>741481556Clearly not because Tifa fags aren't even buying her own gameRebirth sold less copies than every major fighting game this gen
>>741499575Most of that is optional side content, no one is putting a gun to your head and forcing you to do it all.
Bringing Zack back was ridiculous, and if Aerith does get revived, it will take away from the original message. What they've done to Zack, and might do to Aerith is enough to keep me from buying the games.
>>741477364I played the first "remake" and stopped playing when i saw them transforming one screen of the original into an entire chapter.
>>741477364literally nobody gives a fuck about ff7, this is just nostalgiaslop for balding millennials
>>741484260Death stranding 1 and 2 have twice as many sales as FF7 remake and rebirth
>>741479246Wow subhuman third world people like their degenerate boring game they only buy to install RP servers on. Fantastic. Same people who mass buy the same fifa or sports games every year
>>741493937You seem to know a bit too much just to be a hater >>741495062Wrong. I didn’t play remake or rebirth because of exclusivity. I will be buying revelation.
>>741499680Everything has sold much less on PS5 though. Almost every single game has underperformed on PS5.
>>741480709I don't see the problem with him. I like the challenge stuff and I like the materia rewards for doing content I would do anyway. He's not a compelling character but it's not like he's trying to be. It's not like when what's-his-name dies in FFXV and the party is pissed but nobody remembered who he was. If they try to pull that off in Revelation then yeah it'll suck, but as a challenge dispenser NPC I don't have an issue.
>>741499747Zack isn’t back, he’s most likely just in the Lifestream coming to terms with his own death.
>>741499818Not an excuse. Rebirth flopped on PC too. Nobody wants to play this shit remake series because everyone has moved on. This isn't the 1990s anymore
>>741499646>if it had just been a 1:1 of the original, malcontents like you would have just pivoted to bitching about how it was a “lazy cashgrab” and shouldn’t have even bothered wasting the resources, and it would have been forgotten within a monthYou have made this claim hundreds of times and always call it a "fact">>741499601Huh, isn't that funny.
>>741497635Same with Spyro views. Definitely booted or some ad shenanigans.
>>741499575I refuse to criticize SE for putting shit content in these games. The blame is entirely on the player who should know not to play the side content. You will ALWAYS see me posting multiple times in these threads to make clear it's the players fault and not SEs.
>>741499907Explain how it flopped on pc and switch Saar.
>no one here has played it on the switch and fast fowards shit they find boringngmi
>>741499794That is false. Remake sold 5 millions and Rebirth 2. Death Stranding 1 sold 5 millions and DS2 2 millions. Both games and sequel have sold about the same.
>>741477364to many channels.The Japanese Channel has 1,2 Million.japanese SEeurope SEAmerican SEasia SEfrance SEetc.final fantasy europefinal fantasy usSony USSony europe....just to count some...now combine all of those...
>>741500109Steam is the only significant PC market and you can go take a look at the 40k peak it got on there
>>741499680Making it PS5 exclusive was dumb it's like when RE was gamecube exclusive for half of the 6th gen, Square just learned what Capcom did decades ago.
>>741500185hmm maybe we DO care about numbers after all!
>>741500062Remake sold over 7 and rebirth is estimated at least 5 but we don’t know until they update that figure.
>>741500145anyone who still believes rebirth sold only 2 million and remake only 5 must be retarded as fuck.
>>741500145Actual retard
>sales>ratingswho cares lmao, they were given the okay to make a huge padded trilogy. you guys are acting as if sales were so bad theyre forced to cancel part 3
>>741500190Compare that peak to literally any other single player game. Furthermore it did not debut on pc until a year after release. Use your fucking brain to see two different contexts are not the same.
Only 44.6% of players on PS5 finished Rebirth so more than half that bought Rebirth won't be buying Revelation. I hope Square Enix's sales expectations aren't high.
>>741499646These faggots were always going to bitch and complain and hate it no matter what SE did, even if SE gave them exactly what they wanted instead of what they didn't want. There is no pleasing them, and that's a fact.But thankfully there are people like you and me who would be happy with the 7 remake no matter what SE did with it, and we'll defend it from criticism, be it based on reality or hypothetical criticism, whatever it is.So at least there's balance.
>>741499894Why would the lifestream afterlife have hostile Shinra guards and kill off Biggs again? It's an alternate universe even the Stamp dog mascot is different in that world.
>>741500331Players.....dude you aint such plunted?
>>741500361theyre waiting for the third part obviously
>>741500361>Only 44.6%are you retarded?anything above 20% is top tier.....go do some research......
>>741486316>example of good game is a ubsoft tower crap that completely changed what Zelda is>>741486504It was probably already 70% build by the time the game came out>>741486760I'm truly happy that you're happy with it. But to pretend that this is what the vast majority wanted is a bit disingenuous
>>741477521>>741479470>>741499779
>>741500362This thread is full of the same 5 people writing essays on a game they supposedly hate and don’t care for, when they’re investing just as much time and effort as playing the damn games. lol who’s really losing
>>741486892First one already had dementors KH bullshit on it. I was better than the second, but it was in no way good.
>>741500361You’d be suprised how many don’t finish games and just watch a playthrough / cutscenes of the stuff they didn’t do. (Definitely didn’t do that for FFX because mt gagazet is hell in video game form)
>>741477573the pointless busy work and fetch quests in part 1 and 2 ruined the remake.
>>741477364Only old men care
>>741479605>You didn't like Ghost Busters 3: The game?!>FUCK YOUHave you considered the tasteless nigger in the room is you? How could you possibly play FF7 Remake and then say>Nah I want more of this retarded shit!You deserve spoiler spooks, you deserve additional dimensions and timelines, and you deserve all the other bullshit.
>>741500575they are just some /v retards, that have no idea what beeing out in the sun is doing to your skin. those people cry about lara croft beeing indian because she has a tanned skin....as for ff7 remake bitching, those people are so dumb they dont understand thats about expanding the lifestream, what it is and can do. not some multiverse/timelines they bitching about.and they suck at real time combat too.
Time jannies won
>>741500697Apparantly you can’t get into a franchise that was made before you were born. Because everyone who played the remakes also played the og on release. Why did Elon musk give you internet ffs.
>>741500559does anyone have the tan version
>>741500874Shut up unc. Nobody cares about this boomer series
>>741500808what did i just said?morons that really aint paying attention to story hints.kek still about that timeline/multiverse bitching. they still dont know shit....kek
All the people complaining would just find something else to bitch about if the remake was 97% the same like the new translation changing any lines or the w-item glitch being fixed so they can't dupe elixirs and sources. They really just want a modded PC version they can pay for again.
>>741500331Call the dude a retard and then immediately reveal yourself to be the retard.20 million players is from it being on everything from game pass to ps plus you absolute retard, and they could have literally turned on the game once and it would still count.It's amazing how smooth brains like you fall for it every fucking time.
>>741477364Almost 700 hours playing Rebirth. legit one of the best games I've ever played. you retards really do need to get off this hate train. you've been at it for over 2 years now. It's time to stop.
>>741500787Omg someone gets it. It was never a multiverse, the Lifestream explains everything and the original scenario writer is the one writing the remakes.
>>741500943Calm down nigga, I like the remakes I just like meming about the time jannies
>>741500787>>741501007timelines were literally confirmed....
>>741500331>calls anon retarded >btfos himself Look at the image you posted
>>741500575Again: >>741500362I'm glad you're on my side. We won't let them away with it.
>>741500918I’m probably younger than you. I’m willing to bet money.
>>741477364>What went wrong?The first 2 games?
>>741500943The only difference between your posts and the falseflag posts is your english is 100 times worse. Opinions wise, they're the exact same.
>>741500787It's a severe case of Final Fantasy Derangement Syndrome.Once you see it and see the exact same talking points every fucking day for years on end, you'll realise they really are a bunch of mentally retarded autists and you'll just laugh at how pathetic it is.
>>741501062ITS ALL IN THE LIFESTREAM YOU SHIT EATING WORM. NOT MARVEL MULTIVERSES
>>741501213>and you'll just laughI don't though. It's been years and I still get mad every time I see these games being criticized. I have to savour moments like these when one other poster starts agreeing with me unreservedly. And it's not really a conversation, just an exchange of "so true" and backpats.
This thread has convinced me there is some subliminal iq filter this game has encoded into it. FFDS, get checked.
>>741498829It is almost like the game was bad and their is some schizo who wants to paint all criticism of any game as some tendie bogeyman. Including certain tendie games for some reason.
>>741501275ok lets see what happens in the final game
>>741501213One of theme just called a man not even 21 yet, “unc”. Starlink was a mistake.
>>741501275>Interlude: A World Apart>World
I love Remake and it has superseded the original for the most part for me.I will miss this decade once it's over.
>>741501481You will see it’s all Lifestream bullshit they literally tell you in cosmo canyon that it’s desires and memories. Worlds can literally mean anything, not just parallel universes.
>>741499646>>741500362You sure showed that strawman.
>>741501590So why is Biggs alive in the lifestream but Jessie and Wedge are dead?
>>741486284anon it literally is staggerslop
>>741477364> fans spend decades begging for a FF7 remake> SE finally gives in> games don't sellWhat exactly does this mean?
>>741501590ok we will see in the last game
>>741500986SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
>>741501481>the final gamethere will never be another ff7 game after this?
kingdom sharts and its effects has been a disaster for this company
>>741501596It’s not a strawman when this literally happens with every remake ever. The RE remakes are constantly shit on. Halo remake has been lambasted all over the internet. Atlas fags can’t decide whether person 4 remake is an improvement over the original. Learn pattern recognition please.
>>741501483unc's crashing out fr lmao
>>741501665You don't have to make sense of all of it.If it's bad for you, just replace that part with the OG ones that you like.It's not perfect but so is the world.
>>741501275>it's not multiverses>it's my special donutsteal multiverse
>>741501794You are the blackest and most subhuman gorilla nigger
>>741477364Why do you stupid fucks who keep shitposting about this game always like to ignore that Sony killed the trilogy by making it exclusive to them?
>>741501856Why was SE retarded enough to accept that?
>>741501791You are starting with a conclusion and trying to fit the data into that.
>>741501665It’s just Zack and Biggs memories in the Lifestream overlapping with eachother. The other worlds are not heaven, where everyone who ever died is there. Elmyra and Marlene are there despite not dying? Aerith says on the date in chapter 13 it’s her “dream”, nothing about another universe. This all indicates this relates to the souls of individuals holding memories from their lives and it’s being projected like a theatrical recreation. There is an npc in cosmo that lays it all out saying it’s a “looking glass” to what was hoped for during life but never attained.
>>741501791I have no opinion on any of those remakes and still would have preferred a FF7 remake instead of gay Compilation of FF7 fanfiction.
>>741482450Don't forget hiring someone to literally run around finding things to censor and ruining all the designs.
>>741501794Don’t you love how your public transport system is complete dookie and you will never be able to escape the shit hole you live in
>>741485062The problem lies with you guys; it’s a JRPG that sells 5 or 6 million copies per installment, which is more than respectable for the genre. I don’t get the zoomer-trash obsession with bashing the game just because it doesn’t sell like GTA or some other Western crap. A Final Fantasy game selling 5 or 6 million is a good thing—whether Square likes it or not—because, with very few exceptions, this genre sells far less than that.
>>741501924Publishers aren't immune to fanboyism. That said for all their flaws Square-Enix are one of the few Japanese publishers to realize that was screwing them over.
>>741502163Don’t respond to the schizo copypasta bait.
>>741502163Final Fantasy used to be system sellers.
>>741502163I mean, gaming market should be growing. More and more people are into gaming in various hardwares, and Final Fantasy should have been bigger. But I agree that competition has been stiffer more than ever. It's not Persona or Trails that Final Fantasy is competing with. It's the likes of God of War and Fromslops.And no, fuck turnbased.
>>741502343No, it’s never. And if it did it was back in 1997-2001. Most people in this thread on both sides of the argument were not alive then.
>>741485062yeah you are right
>>741502250>schizoIt's one of the few posts ITT which is being reasonable. If you're aware of a secret hideout where millions of gen z remake fans are hiding, let us know. Are they already talking about how to get gen alpha to be remake fans too?Any alternative reality you're suggesting is much more "schizo" than that post.
>>741485062>The entire remake trilogy will be forgotten after a month when it's finally donelol you wish. if aerith lives it will be huge on both sides. people who are happy and people who are unhappy with the decision
>>741502691It's literally copypasta that's been posted in every VII remake thread for months, probably by the same guy.
>>741502734ship autists will argue forever, like the tragic losers they areeveryone else will literally not give a shit anymore once this farce is done
>>741502734Aerith surviving the Remake would be the Last Jedi of video games. It must not be allowed to happen.
>>741502847And it's correct, so who cares? You're only calling it schizo because you don't like it and have no actual rebuttal
>>741502734>it will be hugeI played FF7 and FF7R1. I have no interest in FF7R2/3/4/5
>>741502863Eh, Aeirth's death was never as important as people thought it was. I'm going to like it whatever they decide to do, and the people who don't like what SE do will be wrong, and I will tell them.
>>741502734She lives in Rebirth and still sales didn't break 2m
>>741502852shiptards arent the only ones interested in her fate. outside of shipfags and waifufagging, aerith living would cause huge commotion from every side>>741503015no we dont know what happens yet
>>741502691It’s spammed in every thread by the same guy. It’s known that the age of these players are older but they’re implying that these games will have zero legacy despite its gameplay dictating squeenix future projects for the next 10 years. Watch
>Bloat one game into 3 games>Change shit people love about them>Wonder why nobody wants itWhat a mystery
>>741503014[Seething schizo reply from someone who will literally be doing the exact same but doesn't like to hear others saying it]
Square has not made a single good game since Kingdom Hearts II.
>>741502958There's no point making a rebuttal it will be posted tomorrow and the day after and next week and next month all the way to Revelation by the same chud who sits there licking his lips and giggling as he posts it again.
>>741503081>her death is ambigious so that's why Rebirth sales didn't break 2mI see...
I get angry when I have to listen to the orchestral nu-ost. Absolute overproduced slop.
>>741479924Lets not compare numbers for games please. Its console war bullshit
>>741503235so aerith is the main driving force of sales? im not sure what youre saying...
>>741503168When you dedicate your life to setting 7R critics straight on 4chan it must be a real pain when someone keeps posting shit like that and having others agree with it.
>>741503275That's what you claimed
>>741503015>We remade Bambi but Bambi's mother survives this time!>Why are fans upset? You were all so sad when she died!
>>741503280It is.
>>741499646no I legit love when games stick to the original formula and just upgrade the graphics, its why I've played games like pokemon heartgold and soulsilver so much, cause that is how you make a game for the modern era, don't change a fucking thing and just upgrade the graphics and add a few things to make it modern. Not this bullshit of "LETS JUST MAKE IT ARPG!!!"
>>741503252NO WE MUST HAVE AN ORCHESTRA FOR ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING. THAT SMALL NATIVE AMERICAN VILLAGE? 600 VIOLINS 200 DRUMS. 100 FLUTES
>>741502958Except that it’s not correct either. These games together are the highest production quality product put out by squeenix ever and they managed to get an airship in a final fantasy for the first time since 9 in 2000. Also the argument it’s making about no one talking about it after a month is a huge nothing, like ok? Who still talks about Baldurs gate 3 or Arc raiders which were hailed on release but have a much smaller audience now. It doesn’t change the fact they’re good games.
>>741503412You would have hated FFVII Remake if SE didn't put the time jannies in it.
>>741503412You want a remaster, not a remake.
>>741503491yes thats what i said, but retard was like "NO YOU DON"T WANT THAT"
>>741503330where lol? i responded to an anon who said the entire trilogy would be forgotten in a month. aeriths fate alone, if she lives, would dispel this notion. even if she does die the trilogy isnt going to be forgotten in a month due to how popular ff7 is. i was never arguing about sales or who/what drives them..
>>741502562>No, it’s never. And if it didEvery post you make is like a meme but you are being 100% sincere. It is hilarious.
>>741503560Rebirth featured Aerith front and center and was forgotten and its sales didn't break 2m.
>>741502734People already think the story is shit. Nobody is going to care if Aerith lives or dies in it.
>>741503412The more time passes, the more I realise those are remastered titles, not remakes. The term has evolved as remakes have become more ambitious. Also I love HGSS but game freak would never do something like that again because they sold poorly for some stupid reason.
>>741503724they sold poorly because of DS emulation, but also yes i know and thats why I said I didn't want a remake.
>>741502343Tell me one console FF was a seller for that was not made before the PS2.
>>741503601No one bought a PS2 for FF X they bought it as a DVD player and then for GTA III, and they sure as shit didn't buy it for X-2 either.
this slopmake is worse than the usual slopmake because it locked up resources and man power for over a decade.so many games were not made because they wasted their effort on this.what a disgrace.
>>741503724They could easily port HGSS to the eshop for $20 and sell 5 million copies in a month.
>>741503829i bought a ps2 for kingdom hearts, not a DVD player, wtf
>>741503637>was forgottenyet people are excited for the final part of the trilogy...even if /v/ hates it like it hates everything >>741503660ok thank you for speaking for all the millions of fans in the world.
>>741503845and how exactly would that work? switch has 1 screen, not 2.
>>741503839What games weren't made? You got FF16 and it's inferior to both 7 remake parts.
>>741503464>These games together are the highest production quality product put out by squeenix everGrim
>>741503660>PS1 babby's first JRPG that's carried by a few hype momentsFFVII's story was always shit compared to IV and VI desu
>>741503829Exactly. No one bought a PS3 or 360 for FF1e or PS4 for 15 either. Literal retard statement was made.
>>741503903>ok thank you for speaking for all the millions of fans in the world.My pleasure.
>>741477364If it would have been a single game not 3 parts i would have been interestedlet FF7 fags gnaw on it
If anyone finds the behaviour in these threads confusing, just remember >>741500362 is not joking.
>>741503964That is nice but that doesn't suddenly make demake good.
>>741503941got a real einstein right here.
>>741503903Are you aware of what a crybaby you sound like
>>741503829>>741503975>nuFFHello Zoomer.All 3 of those games sold better than FF7R btw.
>>741477364LAMN that looks epicHope they release a trilogy cause I've just been borrowing my brother's games cause I was poor for awhileMan this should be the best one yet. Literal best game of all timehttps://youtu.be/9BU2aZnR3-g
>>741504086Dude was talking about how happy it makes him feel when he sees people praise the game before. He obviously is on the spectrum.
>>741504131Remake alone has sold more than 13. 10 and 15 were the first on their respective new generation of hardware. Thats no longer possible because of the diminishing improvements in graphical and gameplay fidelity.
>>741504086how? i get that the 5 anons on /v/ hate it but there are plenty of others who are enjoying the games. whats the issue? i love the og and i love the remakes so far...who gaf>>741504201what lol? you must be confusing me with some other anon..which is schizo behavior
>>741503903We're in a thread proving that people are not that excited...
>>741503637Steam really shouldn't have gameshare. My brother insisted we share games and I couldn't help myself and played the first two games. If there's no trilogy I'll just buy all three cause they deserve it. I could've just waited until I wasn't broke to buy them but steam share is too easy to use. It shouldn't exist so more games can get sold
>>741504335You know it smell crazy in here!
>>741504285>5 anons on /v/ hate itHuh, only 5? Everyone else loves it? Then those Rebirth sales should be fine. And maybe now you can stop crying over the meanies who dare to not appreciate remake.
>>741504335Counterexample: everyone
>>741499726you just have to pay thrice the price for that garbage. good goy.
Everybody who hates the 7 Remake? Me.Everybody who likes it? Also me.
zelda remake is gonna mog the trilogy in terms of sales
>>741504565Yes shiggy needs a new pack of Marlboros before he kicks the bucket. nostalgia pandering watered down yellow paint infested remake STAT
>>741504565>OoT remake>MM remake>Third Hero of Time game to apologize for the Hero's shade and downfall timelineNow this is a trilogy.
>>741504285>how?So you aren't aware
>>741503257I remember a time when it was Resident Evil that was the niche property and Final Fantasy was the big blockbuster franchise. How the turntables turn.
>>741504808>no twilight princess mentionits the best game
>>741504781>demake baby thinks FF7R is the norm and not the laughing stock of the industry
>>741504937It is a Hero of Time trilogy.
>>741504826Then your memory is bad cause RE was never niche. The series started in 1996 and already had a Hollywood blockbuster movie by 2000 and this is before RE4 catapulted it to the moon.
Rebirth was an abomination. Nomura should be jailed for that final chapter.
>>741485615>broke the internet.
>>741505121My memory is not bad I remember 1996 and Resident Evil 1 was a niche property in comparison to Final Fantasy. It was Resident Evil 2 that propelled RE to stardom.
>>741479605Chadley makes Navi look like a chump, and keep in mind Navi was the textbook example of annoying back in the day. Nowadays she’s very tame compared to the shit you’ll see.
>>741505301It's not even true either
>>741485615>FF7 Remake teaser broke the internet.It broke the internet my dudes, FF7remake teaser? It broke the internet. Swag. We in the bowl cut club saw how FF7remake teaser broke the internet. Dude did you hear? It broke, the internet! NO WAAY MY GUY, MY DUDE, IT 'COOKED'!
>>741505597What a hack
>>741505597i wish i made money by being an autist about video games
>>741500529>ubsoft tower crapYou don't even know what this means.
>>741505870Rome wasn't built in a day. You like games? You like talking about those games? Then start learning how to combine gameplay and your talking about the games into a singular video and just try. 100% of people fail who don't try.
>>741477364The only issue with the remakes are enemies are too tanky. Ditch that staggering mechanic, and just have enemies dodge and block instead. Tired of meat shields that take forever to mash A to death, THAT is as outdated as turn-based JRPGs are if we're being honest.
>>741506554thanks anon but i dont like being open about any of my hobbies, video games included. i could never be a streamer lol
People who didn't play the first two games don't really care.People who did play the first two games are mustering up the will to play the third. Because holy fuck - those games aren't bad, but are mentally draining to the max. Just utter morosity.
>>741507204Put pen to paper or write what you feel/ know about a game to a word document and just see how it goes.Play a game and write about what you notice about a game after that play session. I know it looks easy when you see videos on Youtube but they take work, weeks, months of work until you get good at it and can pop out a video once a month.
>>741507587oh i just dont want to show my face on such a public platform lol. even if it gets two views two strangers would know my face, i dont like that
>>741481910>0 jiggleWhat a shit mod
>>741498673> the original FF7 is bad actuallyno the remakes are mediocre action games that appeal to people who like the brand of FF7 but dont actually care for FF7.
Where do these people keep getting money from? They aren't even turning a profit on these games the majority of the time and yet they keep making them. I thought games were supposed to sell so that the studios can keep making the games? Maybe I'm just stupid or something.
>>741477364FF's brand relevance peaked with the PS1 and early PS2 when it had the benefit of convergence between nerd notoriety and mainstream market reach as well as genuinely breaking ground in terms of CGI eye candy for the norms. Nowadays it's strictly nerd shit.
>FF7Reddit >flopped LUHHHHMOOOOOOAAOAOAOOAAOAO TOTAL FF7REDDIT DEATH
culture war window shoppers who shitpost games they never had an intention to play in the first place are as bad as Redditors desu. you're still a faggot hivemind, you're just being dickheads instead of toxically positive.
>>741482450bruh. i have had rebirth downloaded since it released on PC and I can't force myself to play it. I want more of the characters but I can't put up with any of that shit. it's just too boring
>>741501734It means they turned it into 3 games with lots of filler instead of 1 solid game
>>741509218>you're just being dickheadsDo you say these kinds of things in any other threads or just 7R and Kingdom Hearts?
It's not a faithful remake.They split into 3, which was fucking retarded.They took forever to do it, cause it's in 3.They changed the story.They censored it heavily, even silly things like now cid doesn't smoke.Lots of boring filler.The combat system sucks.
>>741477364The entire channel gets barely any views, they have alienated the FF fanbase. they have made flop after flop.
>>741509703I've said it in many threads regarding many topics. It's a 4chan thing, not a "fandom" or individual game thing; this site and this board in particular are host to some obnoxious tards who are obsessed with "holding the line" in dipshit internet arguments to try and establish the kosher narrative for the respective community and the necessary pretense to shame those who think different from it. Same shit as Reddit, only it's generally "everything bad" instead of something like "support the developers chud" or "yas queen" etc. But it makes it especially annoying if you're coming to a video game board to talk about an experience with a video game you played and you just get a bunch of virgins shouting at the sky about boobs.
>>741477364FF7R fatigue
>>741507659You don't have to show your face, just do voice over narration.
>>741509704>The combat system sucks.Said no one.
>>741502115With Crisis Core Reunion they censored her flashback design, so they actually went back and patched Remake to retroactively censor it years after release.
>>741477364This story really did not need 10 years and 3 full priced games to be told.
What was the fucking point of the whole time ghosts and split timelines shit?What does it add to the story?
>>741512591That's what the Revelations will be about
>>741512591>a straight remake would have been pointless!ok, so what's the point of this remake?>(crickets)every time.
>>741497623Very well said
>>741477364Redditbirth killed Final Fantasy
>>741477364i swear this game has released like 5 times now
>>741477364Why are they going back to make all the wrong decisions? Like not having Aerith die (bitch deserves to die fuck off whore) or having Zack survive and have plot relevance (dumb faggot deserves to die kys faggot)
>>741512720It still ended up being like 98% a straight remake anyway.They even went back and killed every single side character that survived part 1
>>741513025Exactly. This is part of why they can't figure out what the "point" of their remake is when it's the same story as the original AND they claim redoing the same story would be pointless. They tie themselves in knots just to deflect any criticism.
>>741483267>hating on KH2
>>741477364No aerith in trailer
>>741513750> No aerith in trailerShe died.
>>741484904Disk 3 is the literal end of the game so I'd expect that
>>741513669He's right though.KH1 was a Squaresoft game with Nomura still under Sakaguchi's guidance.KH2 was the beginning of Enix Nomura style over substance.
>>741513960source? a peer-reviewed source?
>>741515756Source: I played the game and I am your peer.
FF7 was split into three to avoid a Nomura-delay and embarassment like what happened with FFXV. The problem is, FF7 remake was 6 years ago. It was announced 11 years ago. The 20th Anniversary was 2017. 30th Anniversary is 2027. This was a Nomura delay all over again. They should've fired him after he was dropped from XV. XVI proves you can make a FF game without Nomura, and it doesn't take 10 years to make.PS1 era we had FFVII, FFVIII, FFIXPS2 era we had FFX, FFX-2, FFXI, FFXIIThe Nomura issue begins here.PS3 era we had FFXIII, FFXIII-2, FFXIII-3, FFXIVPS4 we had FFXV - After it was announced 10 years prior. and then FFVII RemakePS5 we have FFXVIIt went from multiples per generation when Sagaguchi was fronting it, to ONE a generation if lucky because of Nomura.Simple, Fire him.
>>741479605>Take a reasonably well paced game with side quests and mini games to enjoy between progressing the story and leveling up.>Split it into 3 games each of which are at least 3 times as long as the originalI think people complaining about the games dragging on for too long have a legitimate gripe.
>>741479605You're the dumbest blackest gorilla nigger from the deepest, darkest congo I've laid my eyes upon this year so farcongrats
>>741498673Because, as much as I hate Nintendo, i know they have the tact and class to remake OoT almost entirely faithfully, with any new additions being general upgrades or side grades at worse. Even though the plot involves time travel (unlike ff7) they wont have Link fighting time janny ghosts from an alternate timeline or ganondorf popping up every 5 minutes to whisper vaguely sexual suggestions in links ear. The player wont be greeted with a bollywood dance number the second they enter hyrule castle town. There's just no way they (or most other devs desu) would sink to be that tacky, cheesy, and childish to the point where it stains the product like nomura and his cronies have.
>>741517310Kek true
The problem with sequels is that only a fraction can ever come back to the next part of the story.Okay, maybe there's an oddball that didn't play the first 2 games. But they shouldn't expect a growing audience from this.
>>741517174>legitimate gripeNo... no!!! THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!
>>741484713Seriously. We didn't need the bloat they delivered, just a straight remake with accurate character portrayals and better scenery/visuals. The thing I hate the most about what SE did to ff7 was making Cloud a sad-faced emo.
>>741517873My least favorite SE change is them making the whole cast low grade super heroes capable of literal flight ever since Advent Children. So much of FF7s plot doesnt make sense with characters that can leap 100+ feet into the sky and land just as easily. Why parachute into Midgar? Why climb down the Northern Crater instead of just jumping? Why did Tifa need to catch the rope to board the Highwind while fleeing Junon instead of just anime leaping up to the deck? There are probably about 100 other examples of this.
>>741485741Exactly this. A faithful remake gets old and new/fake fans. An unfaithful remake only gets the new/fake fans because all they wanted was to see the characters again from their favorite letsplays and expanded universe slop. The idea that there is this big chunk of fans who would not have bought it if it followed the original's structure is retarded cope by people trying to save face because they know SE fucked this up
>We saw the first Remake trailer in 2015>Third part won't be out until 2027All that time could have been spent making more mainline games.
Thank god there is a reason to play the remake trilogy. Copy and pasted "remakes" like p3 demake and TTYD were so uninteresting there was no reason to play them.
>>741518331You'd like whatever you got
Why do women love Tifa? Why is Tifa still popular? I get it in the 90s because she had big tits and a miniskirt. But now she's covered up but she still gets the most porn and zoomers love her. I don't understand.
>>741477364Remake just isnt good. Didnt even bother with the 2nd one, and I only saw how badly they botched THAT Scene. Dragging out like 3-5 minutes and a bossfight into almost 2 hours and multiple retarded bossfights.
If you played the last 2, why bother watching? You're already buying it.
>>741518423You have been seething at this game for 10 hours straight kek. I wouldn't like Rebirth if it had turd based or XV gameplay.
FFVII remake drag on with stuff like the sewers behind a multiple hour long chapter. Does it get any better later on?
>>741518602What are you talking about you schizo
>>741518712The Shinra building is so fucking boring you'll wish you were back in the sewers. And then against all the odds, the entirety of Rebirth is even more of a drag.
>>741518253It used to be understood that what happens in a movie scene(getting stabbed kills you) is far closer to real life than what happens in a random battle(being shot through the heart with a laser that then explodes or being exhaled on by a giant plant that turns the entire party into small confused frogs that are asleep and poisoned) are different. Movie scenes are closer to realic, gameplay is hyperbolic and no-need-to-be-rationalized-or-explained fun.
>>741518448Men want to fuck her.Women want to be her and get fucked by Cloud.
>>741518448>femcels and troons>women >>741158602
>>741497623/thread
>>741477364They split the game up in a hundred pieces and gave them all silly names
>>741518734Retard >>741486760
>>741497796Kek it really is almost exactly like evangelion >new titles are stupid >none of the characters act like themselves>the same story told again but retarded and worse>higher fidelity presentation, lower fidelity everything else
The Japanese trailer has 1.2 million views. So this shit's actually bigger in Japan than the entire rest of the world.
>>741477573Oh so suddenly we hate Chadley now
>>741519638Japs love cringey anime slop like Demake and Debirth so I'm not surprised.
story is such a clusterfuck that nobody cant really tell whats going to happen and let me tell you its not good for average player
>>741519807Well yeah. Japan's the birthplace of Naruto and shit.
>>741519114That sounds like you
>>741513960But she didn't
>>741497437Spyro trailer has high views (double of Wife of Kratos trailer) because it's being shown to people as an ad. It's easy to tell because it barely has any comments or likes. Same with Tomb Raider trailer.
>>741479605This dudes a certified cutscene enjoying aficionado my dudes! Ff16 felt like watching a fan fiction made in SFM and 7 demake is the same shit
