>CRPGs aren't just party romance simula-

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>>741480292
She's not even a real option. She just wants to meditate and shit. Waste of time.

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>>741480292
She was my greatest ally and a fine friend.
Gone too soon.
F

Yrliet isn't even a good waifu, she treats you like shit and expects you to always put her above you

Anyone have any defend for her or she is just the worst?

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>>741480846
Just the worst sadly.

>>741480292
so you're telling me she's the most human? hot.

are anyone of the romance options good assuming you don't like Cassia being the helpless innocent girl archetype

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>>741483793
Heinrix is the tall dark and handsome type women love. Yrliet is not really a romance. Kibbels is actually kind of sweet I guess. She marries you and has your kids and all that fun. So if your looking for the more "traditional" route shes it. Dark elf is more a BDSM power dynamic thing. I dont think anyone has seriously romanced Jae. And judge dredd is about learning to relax and have emotions. I personally detest romances in videogames and have yet to see one I enjoy.

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>>741484482
I romanced Jae to the point where you need to choose, she was such an annoying bitch I started romancing Jimmy half way through.

>>741484704
just as I maybe got used to her annoying personality. her actual real personality (and voice) is 10x worse.

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>>741484790
When she pulled that shit about calling me out on the PA system? No thanks. Not cute.

>>741484482
Heinrix is literally cast in the Emperor's image. Tall, long dark hair, chiseled jawline. Gigachad physique. He's pretty much perfect, the only question is if the Emperor blessed him with His divine aesthetic or if Heinrix used biomancy to do it himself.

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Need tau gf

>>741484865
lol obviously the latter. its like how all the female mages in witcher used to be fat uggos as kids before learning magic.

>>741483793
Kibellah is fun as long as you're into goth girls. She's genuinely batshit and you can't fully fix her, just make her better.

>>741484865
He's also some crazy 200 year old body magic wizard who rebuilt his body by himself and tortures people

>>741484949
He's perfect in every way.

>>741484929
you're supposed to USE her not FIX her

>>741484912
Companion in 2 is going to be a female kroot. So even better.

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>>741485059
revolting
Honestly I have no interest in DH, the only character so far I like is touma, because he is just felix

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My biggest gripe with this game is how you're just able to slay CSM and daemons so damn easily. Even after you see Space Marines get bodied prior.

>>741485564
You just have XP/main character significance.

>>741485564
I guess but I mean Aurora would fuck you up 1v1

>>741485564
sphess marines die like anyone else when faced with the weapons/pskyer powers you have by the.

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>>741480292
>Game gives you a pure anime waifu character
>People choose the frigid space elf
I don't get it.

>>741484704
Why are they putting money into his pocket?

>>741486327
doomed romance

>>741486431
Because Jae is the spirit of charity.

>>741486431
oh nonononono

>>741486228
Not really. The psyker powers the player has are baby level compared to chaos sorcerers the muhreens have to fight daily.

>>741483793
kibellah is ok, argenta is good in the first act and was obviously on the way to being a romance options and then just gets hung out to dry with no content except her end quest that feels completely tacked on

I think they had something written for her and then yoinked all of it a quarter of the way through development

>>741486576
Space Marines are fodder when they're not the main characters. This is true of every faction. This is why the fucking Blood Angels nearly got wiped out from ONE spacehulk boarding gone wrong (Gone sexual)

>>741486442
all romance is doomed, everyone dies eventually

>>741486646
Optimistic

>>741486635
That space hulk had millions of genestealers. There isn't a chapter that would come out of that situation unscathed.

>>741486327
ass too fat

>>741486228
Nah it's canon that Rogue Traders and their retinues can have access to all sorts of powerful, expensive, and or ancient, bullshit tech that ends Muhrenes in an instant.

>>741485564
You're a Rogue Trader, a CSM or two isn't going to do shit when you're rich enough to just buy archeotech/xenos disintegration beams off the black market. Hell, you should have your own set of power armor to go with it I can't remember if you can get it late game or not.
Daemons are a bit different but you're not fighting hordes of them, just a handful at most that typically only pop up during warp shenanigans. If you've got enough gun they go down just as easily and piss off back to the warp.
It'll be interesting to see how they scale Dark Heresy because that's the sort of setting where something like a single CSM or daemon would be a serious party wipe-level threat.

>>741486635
There's a very good reason they typically only send terminators or the Deathwatch to clear out space hulks and it's because they're usually packed full of shit that eat regular Space Marines for breakfast.
The only reason they'd typically set foot on one in the first place is if there's some ancient relic hidden away on some long lost chapter ship that got mashed up in the hulk somewhere, otherwise they'd just try to blow it up.

>>741486576
A Chaos Marine sorcerer's still going to die when he eats a melta shot to the face, and no amount of
>um actually I have my psychic shield that gives me a +4 invulnerable save
is going to stop that because I'm a Rogue Trader and the Emperor lets me have two meltaguns.

>>741487109
>casts mind wipe on you
Enjoy being too dumb to breathe

Anyone else find Eogunn really shit to use in combat?

>>741483793
No. It has the best companions of any Owlcat game, but the worst romances. Fortunately, we aren't gay fucking loser virgins who need romance in our CRPGs.

>>741486919
You can but you need training to get it and everyone gets armor for the special abilities anyway

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>>741483793
>assuming you don't like Cassia being the helpless innocent girl archetype
Fuck you I like saving damsels in distress, only beta bitch boy pussies don't like the idea of being A Man in shining armour for his girl.

>>741487652
Everyone likes the idea of being a knight in shining armor. We'd generally prefer it be for desirable women rather than frogfaced six-fingered autists, however. Saving mutant freaks is for people who, when saving anyone attractive, would be told to go away by the woman they were saving. Sorry anon.

>>741487881
A lot of words just to say that you like DICK IN YOUR ASS

>>741488078
This, coming from the pajeet who uses the term "Man in shining armour" rather than "knight in shining armour". Hey, at least you immigrated to the UK rather than the US little buddy.

>>741487324
Hope Big Bird lets you cast that shit on zero cooldown because oops now my retinue's pumping you full of plasma, heretic faggot.

>>741488449
All the demon needs to do is cast aversion and you can't even aim in it's direction with any attack. You have no idea how gimped everything is in RT compared to what actual psyhic powers are in 40k.

>>741480292
He looks like a faggot.

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>>741488690
That's a girl, baby.

>>741485564
Daemon work on faith and belief, so they are weaker when fighting people who don't afraid of them.

>>741487453
I've just recruited him and had a couple of fights and I'm not sure what to do with him. He doesn't vibe with my RT or my party at all. I fucking wish we could reallocate ALL of a party members skill points (not change archetypes), I don't want him to use Officer skills at all.

Bladedancer arch militant pyromancer or warrior arch militant pyromancer? I feel like warrior can get into fight faster.

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>>741489006
forgot pic

>>741487453
Because he not mean to use as a combat unit. He is supposed to be use as a buffer. He is like Cassia in that you wants to use his unique talents instead of his class talent.

>>741480846
She's too stupid and gullible to be held accountable for her own actions. Even her own people treat her like she's dumber than a dog.

Yrliet belongs to Marazhai

>>741487652
>Cassia
>damsel in distress
Cassia is the distress

>>741486442
The funny part is that it isn't, while Yrliet's is, as she's the only character in the game with nothing but bad romance ends

How do I melee pyro?
Executioner or arch militant?
warrior or blade dancer?
Dual wield or chainsaw?

I rather he doesn't share weapons with my other frontliner, 1h+pistol astra militarum commander for fleet combat training


Revan collection of builds is cool and all but he really should add a short description to each one

>>741480292
>couple
She's not even really a "romance", though. You meditate with each other & sit still silently in each other's presence, and that's it. It's the equivalent of being yoga class partners or something.

>>741483793
Kibellah. Also you can get her pregnant.

>>741490291
And she takes your firstborn away from you so brainwash him and turn him into a cultist who doesn't know who his parents are

>>741486327
She is literally infertile.

>>741490347
She literally is not.

>>741486603
There's no implication that Argenta would ever have been a romance. She's an untrustworthy, dishonest snake who can't answer simple questions pertaining to her own upbringing & interests.

>>741487453
You're not using him properly then. His default augment electrical gun is busted. He can buff your melee companions with electrical charges that deal absurd damage as well, and if you make him an Overseer he can air of authority the entire squad for insane momentum stacks

>>741490135
Especially when my dick is inside her. OOH!

>>741486327
>snooty rich girl
no thanks

>>741488194
I do because I'm a Man and not a Knight. Gonna cry?

>>741490321
So, he gets specialized training to be an asset when/if an heir is needed & won't be in a position to overthrow me by default. How is this not an absolute win? Way better than Aspyce's cryo vault plan.

>>741483793
>Cassia
has other men's kids btw

>>741486327
Waifutards are always looking for something to shit and piss themselves about, WotR threads were unusable because "nooooo there is no hecking virgin" then they go and get one and they go "nooooo she's a hecking mutant"
They ALWAYS have to bitch about something, it's in their blood, even when pandered to. All the retards that beg for Argenta would also find something, anything, to complain about if she was an option

>>741490589
>peasant noises
Kek.

>>741489023
>>741490162
I've been playing as a Warrior/Executioner Pyromancer but I'm just a Daring casual lol

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>>741490681
Nope

>>741490379
If you make her renounce her title, the ending states she can't give you children because her mutations are getting out of control. If you romance her & she keeps her status as head of her house, then she still doesn't give birth. It's obvious that she has fertility problems.

>>741490682
>All the retards that beg for Argenta would also find something, anything, to complain about if she was an option
Argenta is literally perfect and a living saint whose every movement is blessed by the Emperor

>>741490849
This is advanced simping

>>741490752
Can you really say you love a girl if you won't eat her caviar?

>>741490845
>then she still doesn't give birth
Liar, yes she does. Cassia is only infertile in that specific ending because her mutations go out of control and kill her. She's perfectly capable of having kids, she doesn't because Owlcat are hacks and they denied child endings until A Dance of Masks came out

>>741490921
>>741490752

>>741490921
Gotta lay off the copium

Is Vanguard bad on Abelard? Like I already run 2 other Arch Militant and I don't want to have too many of one class.

>>741484929
>play A Card Inverted
>she's an actual divination psyker and doesn't even realise it
>Flaming Voice and Steel Mistress
>Just kinda running around playing with dead bodies and vibing
>extremely dangerous predator that either goes off said vibes or straight up gets info from God
Legitimately off her rocker and it's adorable.

so why is there no orc presence in this game? I heard in the grapevine that orcs are quite popular in the russian WH community

>>741491030
Vanguard synergizes well with his navy officer abilities & momocole augment that forces him to cluster around allies, it's just a very defensive play style in a game where it's incredibly easy to evaporate the entire screen in a few rounds. Vanguard Abelard is a life saver in ambushes, though, especially after the elevator crash in Void Shadows because that fight is a pain in the ass without a tank.

>>741491140
Because they're being saved for DLC 4.

>>741490964
You retard, first, that's me, and second, that's her good ending. In the ending where you convince her to abandon her family, she's infertile and dies because her mutations go out of control, presumably due to the constant warp exposure she gets as your navigator (as you can see in her act 4 romance event)
>Alas, Cassia's genetic mutations did not allow her to bear an heir, and soon they began grotesquely deforming her body. One night, she gave her lover a kiss and disappeared forever, leaving behind a short note: "My love, from our first meeting to our final days together, you were the only morning light that shone in my heart, never fading. You have a life ahead of you — live it happily, for both of us. As for me... I love you endlessly. Yours, Cass."
And then, there's the bad ending where she marries another navigator, her mutations remain stable there and she doesn't become infertile
>Their love was like a candle flame: warm, tremulous, insatiable, and... quickly extinguished. When Cassia took the throne as Novator, love gave way to duty. Some praised their doomed love over glasses of amasec, while others cursed it and spat in disgust. Yet, even after entering an arranged marriage and passing on her precious genes, Cassia kept in contact with the only person she had ever fully loved until her dying day
So no idiot, Cassia is not infertile, it's a problem she only suffers in one ending where she stays with you because of course that's how it is

>>741490162
Blade dancer -> executioner & use force swords. Pick forge origin to get the talent that gives you deflection bonus against burning effect.

Yrliet ending is so retard. You're telling me the RT somehow can't get a single Soul Stone for Yrliet?

>>741491261
She can't give you children because she cannot give children. This is obvious to anyone who isn't chronically addicted to compium

>>741491370
If you put her on Path of the Warrior, she leaves you, and it you go through the effort of keeping her an Outcast then you trigger a bloody war with the Craftworld Eldar & she becomes miserable being "trapped" on your flagship. She's the worst romance to stick with.

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>>741491414
>post an ending that literally says she had a kid
>he doubles down
I know you're shitposting, but I'm still going to keep proving you wrong just in case anyone is retarded enough to believe it

>>741491370
Aren't spirit stones found near the Eye of Terror, though? The Expanse is on the literal other end of the universe. And let's say you managed to wriggle out a contact who could miraculously obtain such a rare object for you on the literal other end of the universe: the transport would be the number one priority for every Craftworld, as well as garuntee Chaos fleets to pursue it given the proximity to the Eye. While it's not technically an "impossible" task, you are basically asking for a miracle.

>>741491679
The problem is that the RT literally have way too much connections:
>Have huge influence on an organization that is specialize in trading alien artifacts
>Saved 2 farseers who should have some spare stones
>Actually visited a crone world on Cassia quest where Spirit Stones are found.

>>741491876
Yeah that's fair.

Warrior or Bladedancer for pistol and sword build?

>>741491212
I wish. im sure its another fucking GW mandated small thing.

>>741490162
Use Revan's Fire Tsunami build. It's a Pyromancer Bladedancer/Executioner melee build. It's one of the most broken builds in the game. Also, make sure to watch the accompanying video (hint: the Ignite psyker power isn't for enemies, it's for you).

>>741480292
>People only like Yrliet
Nobody likes Yrliet

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>>741493169

So can I make a Blade of Faith Pryomancer build with power armor?

>>741485564
>End of first planet, your final challenge is a chaos space marine.
>It's stronger than anything you've faced up until now.
>Kill it and move onto next planet.
>All the random unarmoured street thugs with makeshift nigger knives can deal and take more damage than a chaos space marine.

>>741480846
Eldar fan here.
Yrliet is genuinely terrible and sets the faction back in ways that will probably never be recovered from because she's specifically the opposite of what actual Eldar should be. There is no defending her except for morons who think "She held my hand at the end so she's nice!" somehow redeems her as a character. It's not a matter of romance or sex, she's legitimately so bad that I question if her plot was written to intentionally slander Eldar as a whole.

>>741486327
I HATE that archtype so much because it's completely devoid of personality and gets shoved in your face in every game.

>>741487109
>and the Emperor lets me have two meltaguns.
Gee bill.

Who should I pick as a love interest?

>>741493450
No roastie, a woman being nice to you doesn't mean she's devoid of personality

>>741493468
Sauerback's wife

Did anyone really "like" her? I mean, I did all of the romance/relationships in the game (the straight ones, not the gay ones) in the same playthrough with a mod because I wasn't really going to play the game a second or third time, so I got to see all of the girls. And her entire arc is very specifically meant to feal like an "anti-romance", specifically in contrast to the Navigator's traditional romance. The only way to make progress with Yrillet is to choose all of the things you would think you shouldn't choose because any time you do anything nice, or ask to get closer to her or whatever, you fail. In the narrative, it's supposed to play like "Oh if you do all of the anti-romance choices, it shows her you're deeper and more kinda-sorta like how Eldar behave rather than just being led by your base instincts and desires" but I didn't feel like that worked very well in itself (because I didn't actually feel like that, I was just making the choices I knew she wouldn't hate), and at the end it doesn't actually pay off in any way either.

So yeah, I guess...did anyone actually ENJOY her story/romance path? I don't think anyone did.

>>741493448
I mean even other Eldars point out she is an outcast and outcast are generally pretty unpleasant even for Eldar. She not even a ranger since ranger are Outcast who embrace their path while Yrliet being an outcast because she just doesn't fit in anywhere. She is basically the Eldar version of a teenager.

>>741493556
Contrarians and asexual freaks did
That, and eldarfags so desperate for a crumb of eldar pussy that they take anything they can get

>>741493468
You're a Rogue Trader, you're legally compelled to not only have one wife. Ignore the high maintenance party members and just keep cruising until things settle down and you can have a harem.

>>741493501
I don't find someone who's literal only trait is 'nice' to be a compelling or interesting character, let alone lovable. That's virgin simp wish fulfilment shit.

>>741493708
Good thing that's not her only trait then
>virgin simp wish fulfilment
And this tell me everything I need to know about you

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What if we replace Yrliet with this Eldar?

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>mfw Yrliet is still going on about muh people you can't kill them after in Qetzer Commonrag

>>741493602
I mean, I get the novelty of it as a thing you don't usually see in RPGs, you almost never get a romance quest where you intentionally have to choose all of the wrong answers because in the character writing, NOT going for romantic options makes you seem deep and smart and whatever.

But I do kind of wish it actually ended in something a little bit more worthwhile? As far as the other quests, Cassia was ok though she kinda got fucked up near the end but obviously her having this super-basic storybook romance need was ok, and Jae was never really my type as a character though she worked for what she was. I did find it funny how all of the female characters basically led you by the dick and then at the end had you breaking your own rules or letting lots of people die to cover up their mistakes/flaws.

>>741480292
Yrliet proved she is too retarded to keep around because she is a danger to the ship and the crew, so I executed her for her stupidity.

I refrained from flirting with Yrliet and regularly meditated with her and did not realize I was engaging in a romance with her.

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>>741493841
>Won't trust Dark Eldar bullshit
>Will be blunt and to the point in all things
>Will blow up half of every fight by dropping grenades everywhere
>Will rightfully call Farseers out for being turbonerds, and tell them to stand aside as she takes charge
>Will personally contribute an entire Warhost to your cause if you go Iconoclast
>Will probably tell you all about Aspect Warriors and her time on the Path of Command during downtime
>Was the canonical winner of DoW2, even got go return to Alaitoc which is now one of the only Craftworlds to be getting things done
PLEASE GOD
I DON'T CARE IF WE CAN'T ROMANCE HER

>>741494087
Because she's one of the few actual cases of stealthmancing where picking a dialogue option that's not flirty in the slightest can trigger her romance without you even realizing it

>>741494087
Like I said, her entire thing is that if you pick any of the flirty or "get to know you" options, she calls you a retarded ape. But if you tell her "No, I obviously have no interest in sex" then you're suddenly doing what she wants.

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>>741493602
Actual Eldar fans do not want human x eldar romance garbage becaue it is inherently degrading towards the eldar. It is basically beastiality for them. The only people who desire eldar waifus and human and eldar romance are imperiumfags for self insert power fantasy purposes.

The power fantasies of Eldar fans are about styling on lesser races and culling them in the billions from your rightful ancestral clay.

>>741494598
This is why Warhammer fiction needs significantly more Eldar rape in it. Because they're so gay and wannabe-special that it would be only proper for anyone who comes in contact with Eldar to capture them and keep them as rape-prisoners until they break.

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>>741494819
There is already eldar rape in 40k, it is just the Eldar doing the raping.

>>741485564
You should check out Dark Heresy then. Owlcat read a bunch of comments like these and decided that Dark Heresy should be a game where all characters are shit at fighting, all combat encounters are stacked against the player, and gear you get is total garbage.

Every Eldar you meet in this game is beyond retarded. Even when you're trying to help them, they insult you. Even when they're on the verge of all dying on their final arc, they still call you a monkey, say you're nothing more than an animal and that one thousand human lives are not worth one eldar life.

No wonder Crudarach was destroyed. For a smart civilization beyond human undestanding, they sure are all dumb and autistic.

Dark Eldars at least don't whine and complain.

>>741491876
Also Nocturne and the eldars on quetza temer.

You know half the eldar pop in the sector

>>741494308
>But if you tell her "No, I obviously have no interest in sex" then you're suddenly doing what she wants.
>This lets you get close to her
>Doesn't result in sex
Wait, people are mad about this predictable set of events?

>>741494819
The Eldar already got raped so hard that the eye of terror opened up and you're still not happy?

>>741494972
>that one elfdar wych who is tsundere for her human sex slave
very nice

>>741480908
>casually throws around racial slurs while acting like the other guy is the racist

>>741495506
Eldar are basically Space Jews. No matter what situation they're in, they will continue to strike you and talk down to you, even if you're holding a gun to their head. They are literally incapable of any thought that involves self-reflection or real introspection, which is sort of the whole point of their entire civilization.

>>741495110
an anon put it succinctly in a previous thread:
we're the equivalent to elite and HQ units in rogue trader, except named

in dark heresy we're supposed to be baseline human mooks; but this clearly isn't the case for the game and our PC. plus the playtest takes place in chapter one and we're already defeating a plethora of daemons and other shit that would kill even space marines.

>>741480292
>Pretends to be a mutant at chaos worshipping court because Farseer asked her to, but couldn't pick up a telephone to ask him what to do next, instead choosing to bring a mon-keigh death squad with her to ask him personally
>Asked said death squad to help her locate her people to help them, fails miserably
>Is pissed that everyone on the ship treats her like a monkey, while calling everyone monkey herself
>Betrays you to your enemies because dark eldar are trustworthy, you end up in the rape city JUST BECAUSE OF HER
>btw your servant was going to betray you to the dark eldar, but dont worry I killed him and betrayed you in his stead, say thank you
>Fails to save a single farseer out of Commorragh
>unrelated note, your "savior" from commorragh delivers you box full of dead people just because you didn't word it right, haha take that dumb mon-keigh!!!!
>Listen, can you pwease kill this fellow Rogue Trader? He's hunting us for trying to genocide his world, humans are such chud
>It's my time to repay your kindness, mon-keigh, I'm gonna call my people and ask them not to kill you
>Yikes, they said "no" guess you're gonna get attack by them anyway sucks to be you haha

I'm starting to think that my friend lied and she's not worth keeping around

>>741495506
Doesn't Maugen stop calling you mon'keigh pretty early on if you're reasonable withhim?

>>741496419
Damn is this all Act 3 spoilers? I killed Yrliet (I mean who wouldn't?) so I imagine this all plays out slightly less retardedly.

>>741496529
he calls you that until after you come out of cumrag and have saved the farseer in which he hesitantly calls you elantach.
>>741496694
no it's just as retarded. act three is narratively bad. bring idira and argenta and you'll see what i mean

Who should you bring to act 3? Who have the most plot? I heard the new companions have much more content in act 3

>>741497787
Abelard, Argenta, Idira, whichever companion is your primary romance, and then mandatory between Yrliet or Heinrix depending on whether Yrliet is alive or not at that point.

>>741495506
You are literally a monkeigh, a primitive, simple lifeform with mediocre psychic potential. If a rat walked up to you and expected to be treated on par as a human, would you treat it as such? You are a pet at best, and a mindless beast at worst.

>>741494121
she has a super squeaky voice, I can't wait to make her moan like a whore over the entire warhost voxnet.

>>741496026
>this world was promised to me 6 million years ago oy vey!

>>741492681
Neither. Do an officer -> master tactician & pick commissar origin to use your pistol for buffs. Get the augment that makes your WS scale with BS so you can just level FEL & BS while still being able to use your sword well.

>>741500806
and yet you're throwing yourself on the rat's mercy, it would be one thing if she was tossing off insults during an encounter but she literally depends on you to travel and do whatever she wants

>>741501065
A rat is still a rat. I may need your pile of trash to survive this river, but at the end of the day you are still only motivated by & after my cheese, and will die in a year.

>>741485564
>Tabletop
They die to anything
>Video games
They also die to anything
What's the problem here?

>>741485564
>novels and codexes are full of "the right weapon aimed at the right part will kill anything" featuring guardsmen one shotting carnifexes, patriarchs etc
>BUT WHAT ABOUT THE POWER LEVELS
they don't exist. They literally don't. The only power levels are helmet/no helmet and named/unnamed

>>741501194
Nope, RT doesn't need her in any way, she's the curiosity.

>>741485564
Daemons don't actually "die" when they're killed in realspace; they just go back to the warp & have a cool down period before they can come back again. You essentially need to go into the warp itself & use a soul-annihiliating/warp evaporating power in order to truly kill a daemon. Tzeentch is also infamous for intentionally sending his minions to lose a (seemingly) straightforward fight in order to cause a reaction/relevation in the target his minion was fighting, so he can use the target in a greater scheme; he did this both with Magnus & Commander Farsight.

>>741490529
I can see it but I think I am just going to drop him and use someone more interesting.

>>741501848
It's ok when Tzentch plays with the thread of fate but if eldars lose any battle for future gains their Farseers predicts they're jobbers

>>741500919
Alaitoc has brothels and whorehouses on board, they'd probably thank you for getting her to unwind a bit for once.

>>741485564
Contrary to what the propaganda likes to portray them as, space marines are about on par with not-fresh-off-the-spore-pod orkboyz, when it comes to strength and a lot lower than that on toughness (outside of their power armor), so no, space marines aren't that big a threat to an imperial human with access to high tier equipment, which most Rogue Traders' high class retinue (and they themselves) have. A single plasma gun will melt a space marine, regardless if it's fired by a crippled teenage hive slave or another space marine veteran. Chaos space marines *may* have access to daemonic gear or blessings that could help with that, but it's also nowhere near as common as you'd think either. Also, the vast majority of chaos sorcerers aren't even psykers themselves, since sorcery refers to the ritualistic and sacrificial warp magic literally anyone can do (outside perhaps the strongest blanks, whose negative warp aura may prevent the warp energy from forming/bleeding in in their presence), so while an inexperienced and/or caught off guard rogue trader might legitimately shit their pants at a CSM crashing their party, there's a pretty good chance they can deal with him if they get shit together.
FYI, most CSMs operate through cults and only enter combat scenarios where their underlings have already subverted most opposition or gained significant ground. "Movie" marines are quite rare and filled to the brim with protagonist plot armor juice, so if you're not one of the lucky ones, you're just a slightly more expensive statistic in the Imperial warmachine meat grinder.

Yrliet is proof 90% of you are pussy whipped
On release everyone was going bonkers thinking they were gonna have their trad eldar wife ending slide, and I will not let this slide from memory

>>741502971
I always disliked her

reformed daemonette when?

>>741502971
>and I will not let this slide from memory
Like what, you will never forget how Owlkek robbed us? Yeah bro we all know

>>741502878
You're ignoring the fact that most space marines are extremely old & have thousands to hundreds of years of combat training against the universe's most deadly enemies under their belt. Loyalist marines have the largest amount of exceptions to this factor due to having so many splinter legions & general recruits who aren't as old as the originals who fought in the Great Crusade back when the Emperor was more of a man-god than a corpse-god. For a Chaos Marine Legion, especially a martial one like the Emperor's Children, you aren't winning a one on one duel with ancient super soldiers who have mastered dueling to such an extent that they fight with arbitrary self-imposed handicaps to stave off boredom. The player character in Rogue Trader is very lucky to only have to fight Word Bearers, because individually they are the by far the least martially inclined & least martially competent of the traitor legions; they're genetically designed to be priests/diplomats, after all.

>>741503568
>The player character in Rogue Trader is very lucky to only have to fight Word Bearers
Bro you kill a fucking lord of change and a c'tan shard, who cares about space marines

>>741503632
You killed the lord of change because that's what Tzeentch willed & predicted would happen, in actuality this was just as planned. His designs are never straightforward, and it's also why you can kill it on a heretic run as well.

>>741503568
RT has has skewed powerlevels to make the game more fun for lorlets. A lore accurate lord of change appears in Space Marine 2 and it's immune to damage unlike the wet paper towel one in RT. It's pointless to argue about it since RT isn't canon to anything. Even the ship is too large inside compared to what it's class can house.

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>>741503791
>Even the ship is too large inside

>>741503568
because biblically accurate SM bolter combat which lasts an eternity is dumb and even GW doesn't respect their own rule

>>741503881
This is my actual flagship, tho

>>741485564
the RT in this game has super emperor powers, or super chaos powers if you lean that way

4th char is gonna be a psyker + new school?

>>741496529
Nah he always acts like an idiot, but the Farseer you rescue tells him to shut the fuck up

>>741492681
Warrior. Blade dance no longer procs fleet combat training.

>>741503881
Where is the 100 baneblade and the entire blood rahvens stolen armoury

>>741494121
>>741493841
man, I fucking miss playing DoW2, all factions were great in Elite mod except GK
I'm sure 4 will be jackshit

can you keep nomos in the glorious (neutral) ending?

>>741506205
Apparently not

>>741501009
Can I pick Void born and pump everything to INT and balistic instead?

>>741506205
No because glorious might as well not exist

>>741503881
>saddam hussein (canonized as Saint Cognatius)
no wonder why they couldn't find his tomb

Seem like I can remove class restriction with ToyBox? Any broken combo that previous unable to be used?

was Mort just jerking off how did he get clowned on by a sister with an auto pistol

>>741491598
Septimus puts a kid in Octavia in the night Lords books and it comes out a space marine

Any broken augment that worth getting?

>>741506993
Because Argenta is a Mary Sue. That's how.
>death world raised combat veteran of a rogue trader who's at the least over 100 years old
>dies from a single basic autopistol shot from a green SoB of a non-militant minor order

>>741508438
>person A draws their gun a bit faster than person B and wins
yep, it happens, doesn't make her a mary sue, you clearly don't know what the term means

>>741506296
It's best to use pistols that have area attacks then to get the most out of your int, but yes, absolutely. Use inferno pistols, plasma pistols, flamer pistols, or blast pistols & laugh as you evicerate crowds instantly.

>>741508570
I don't believe that a hardened combat veteran raised on a death world, fully armored, with inhuman constitution & reflexes would die from an autopistol shot. Now, if he was hit with a melta gun or a plasma gun then I believe that. But some literal who non-militant order SoB is not going to outgun a Rogue Trader's arch militant.

>>741508743
Argenta says she used her bolter
>but the autopistol!
She says she used her bolter contradicting what you find out earlier, yes it's extremely tacked on and rushed everyone knows that. Either way it being badly written or not doesn't make her a mary sue

Can you get the forge world augment in the game or they only give you them when you create a character?

>>741508570
It does in fact make her a Mary Sue when her lack of experience overcomes an extremely experienced adversary she realistically would have no method of overcoming simply because the writers demanded it be so. That is in fact an excellent example of a Mary Sue. Argenta outgunned Mort because plot.

>>741480846
She's all the bad parts of the craftworlds with very few of the good parts.

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>>741486327
Love me fishwife. Can wait to see her ass expand to even greater reaches as she slowly turns into a newt. May I one day need a seperate navigtor just to get around it.

>>741508851
No she doesn't, and she starts the game with an autopistol in her secondary slot. Quit lying to defend horrible writing & characterization.

>>741508867
It's exclusive to forge world origins.

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>>741509015
I'm not even going to reply to the other retard
>defend horrible writing & characterization
I'm literally doing the exact opposite idiot

>>741490682
>hair too white

>>741503568
>You're ignoring the fact that most space marines are extremely old & have thousands to hundreds of years of combat training against the universe's most deadly enemies under their belt.
No they aren't, most space marines don't reach their fourth service stud (they get one per 50 years). Many original Traitor Legionnaires are *technically* 10k years "old" but only because they spent most of that time inside the Eye of Terror or the warp in general, where time flows completely differently, if at all. Also, the vast majority of the ones who actually faced the universe's most deadly enemies are dead, and usually died in the very first few encounters with such enemies.
>For a Chaos Marine Legion, especially a martial one like the Emperor's Children, you aren't winning a one on one duel with ancient super soldiers who have mastered dueling to such an extent that they fight with arbitrary self-imposed handicaps to stave off boredom.
You're describing Lucius the Eternal, who is one of Slaanesh's special snowflake amusement pets, the vast majority of Emperor's Children do not have his immortality (which by the way *requires* him to first lose his duel and then possess the victor who beat him, which apparently happens a lot), and their arrogance duelist attitude is more likely to get them killed in most scenarios (i.e. the ones where they don't start the encounter in melee range of their opponent, if not outright ambush/surprise).
>The player character in Rogue Trader is very lucky to only have to fight Word Bearers, because individually they are the by far the least martially inclined & least martially competent of the traitor legions; they're genetically designed to be priests/diplomats, after all.
Every space marine, Word Bearers included, has by default above average combat skill, which is useless against superior firepower, which only requires the weapon to be sufficiently powerful to overcome their power armor, which is a lot easier than you'd think.

>>741502971
I called out the betrayal the moment the leaks happened and i started saying she would be the worst companion.

>>741509109
That's too bad. Those augments basically have no downside.

>>741508949
NTA, but may I remind you that Sisters of Battle are one of the few Imperials that *do* in fact actually get to manifest (or become a beacon/vessel for) miracles from the Emperor, quite frequently in fact?
It is plausible that Argenta's case was exactly that, as she supposes, since she herself was very surprised she actually pulled that off and barely registered that it happened, suggesting that she wasn't quite in control of her actions.

>>741502159
I thought Eldar couldn't fuck without getting eaten by Slaanesh? Craftworlds have prostitutes?

>>741510551
Thats a meme excegration. What the Eldar can't do is behave in excessive turbo hedonistic ways as it lets Slaanesh sink it's metaphysical teeth into their souls and start sucking em up prematurely. That is why the Dark Eldar suffer from the thirst.

Just having sex isn't enough of emotional excess for this to happen if eldar still follow the path and generally restrain themselves emotionally in their day to day lives.

>>741510551
They can, but they need to be extremely careful and possibly drugged to neural numbness while doing it, since getting too emotional can trigger the permanent Slaanesh ping/radar inside their souls and possibly manifest a warp portal inside them. Hence why they're a dying race, since their (natural) procreation is massively limited due to that factor. Unless, of course, you're a Commorite and sacrifice someone else's lifeforce instead of yours, to appease Slaanesh's hunger for your soul.

>go through life constantly on edge over being gobbled up by the troon prince
>can't even enjoy sex properly
>dying isn't even a release, your soul is still at risk for the rest of time and even the infinity circuit isn't guaranteed protection
no wonder these fuckers are so miserable all the time

>>741510790
It's not that severe. The eldar can reproduce just fine, it is simply that their reproductive cycle is slow and the Craftworlders need fresh soulstones from Croneworlds for their children in order to safeguard their souls from slaanesh.

The dying race stems more from the fact that they reproduce at a slower rate than the other races in the galaxy and can't keep up with the attrition they are facing in their struggle for survival, not some inherent inability to have kids.

Dark Eldar avoid this issue by not using soulstones at all and also speed growing their babbies in vats, with majority of deldar being born from these vats. Trueborn dark eldar who actually get birthed by their mothers are basically status symbols for their parents and nobility in Commoragh. Also, Dark Eldar can renounce their ways and adopt craftworlder lifestyle and thus seal the "spiritual wound" in them that allows Slaanesh to sap away their souls which the Dark Eldar lifestyle causes in them. Such "redemptions" are rather rare though as they basically need the Dark Eldar to be adopted by a Craftworld and the craftworld to provide him/her a soulstone which are a somewhat limited resource for the Craftworlders as they cannot just make them, as they can only be harvested from Croneworlds.

>>741511790
>It's not that severe.
I overexaggerated a little, sure, but they definitely can't enjoy sex at all, same as they can't enjoy crying over a lost love one, which also has a dedicated Path, because the eldar would need a lot of time and dedicated practice to *not* let their emotions go too far, were they to actually indulge in that emotion.
>Dark Eldar avoid this issue by not using soulstones at all and also speed growing their babbies in vats, with majority of deldar being born from these vats.
IIRC they don't grow babies, they simply create/grow new bodies out of a bit of genetic material and some biomass, then transfer the soul of a dying or dead eldar into it, a.k.a. literal necromancy. Which is child's play for most homunculi, since they still retain most of the knowledge and technology the eldar had before Slaanesh awoke and destroyed their empire.

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>>741486327
i chose Cabela's dangerous Hunts (2013), fish wife and Yrliet (before i had chopped her head off and refused to give her spirit stone to slaanesh) I love being a Rogue Trader

>>741493550
>Cuckrad's used goods

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>go through my heretical playthrough for the first time
>make marazhai join my party
>agree with him on certain things just to get more heretic points
>huh, i guess i'll exhaust some of his dialogue just to find out more about the drukhari
>don't pick up the hints or anything because drukhari are just bloodthirsty retards
>join him in one of the hunts
>this somehow ends in him kissing me and gay sex

>>741512384
>IIRC they don't grow babies, they simply create/grow new bodies out of a bit of genetic material and some biomass, then transfer the soul of a dying or dead eldar into it, a.k.a. literal necromancy.

You are wrong. The Haemonculi do speedgrow new dark eldar in vats which are the halfborn, (it is not elaborated on where the genetic material for their creation comes exactly, but it is kind of implied that it is still derived from viable dark eldar embryos, as in the halfborn do have moms and the process of their creation is basically just a dark eldar form of "abortion" where the embryo is removed from the mom and just speedgrown into an adult by the haemonculi).

The second process the Haemonculi do is revive dead Dark Eldar if sufficient amounts of their remains are left around. They can grow a Dark Eldar warrior back just from a finger if it is brought back to their laboratories sufficiently quickly after the demise of the individual deldar. This revification process does not involve soul transfer but instead the remains of the deldar being revived are place in a sort of sarcophagi that are arranged over the Haemonculi laboratories where the agonies the Haemonculi exact on their test subjects generate dark energies which allow the dark eldar housed in these sacrophagi to regenerate themselves back to life.
So it is necromancy but it does not involve soul transfer. It is more like the soul essense still clinging to the physical body of the dead Dark Eldar (if the body is brought back fast enough) allows them to return to life via the dark arts of the Haemonculi.

It should be noted that before the birth Slaanesh the Eldar could literally reincarnate themselves, a large part of their identity and personality is part of their souls and exists in the warp in coherent enough fashion that if Slaanesh wasn't a thing, death wouldn't be the end for the Eldar. The eldar souls within the infinity circuits of the Craftworlders still retain their identies etc.

>>741484912
I know they've tried to make them more morally grey but the Tau still seem like the best option in the universe. Coolest power armors too

>>741503791
I killed a Lord of Change in Total War with a mob of emaciated peasants shooting shit tipped arrows

>>741513265
Fantasy has different power levels. Wooden wagons have the same armor as titans in 40k

>>741513315
No, it's roughly the same power level (as the world of Warhammer used to be a single Feral world within 40k), you're just not considering that daemons are in fact limited by their enemies' fear of them, as well as the fact that for Tzeentch daemons specifically, their power level varies wildly, since Tzeentch has full control over that and often will use even his most powerful servants as examples or as pawns and pieces in one or another of his demented kudzu chess plots against himself. It is in fact not impossible for daemons to be (severely) weakened by the fact that the guardsmen shooting at it are more afraid of getting blammed for cowardice by the commisar two ranks behind them, than they are of being split in half by the screaming barely corporeal monster in front of them.

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>>741512828
Lmao, anon fell for the Dark Eldar badboy charms. How does it feel to be the gay boytoy of a Dark Eldar?

>>741513614
>it's roughly the same power level
No it isn't and this has been explained by the designers multiple times. 40k is shackled by it's use of D6 dices and doesn't allow for granular detail in the game resulting in SoBs having the same quality armor as SMs despite no augments.

>>741480292
Yrliet is based because she destroyed waifufags and that's hilarious.

why can't I romance Nocturne? I think falling on love with a human would be a grand jest that Cegorach would appreciate

>>741513824
Harlequins don't have free will.

>>741513678
i told him that i'd never do that with him again and he said something along the lines of "yeah not even an orgy can fix this shit"

>>741513708
No, I mean that whether the projectile is a shitty arrow or a bolter shell or missile or whatever else makes very little difference for a daemon, physically. Both Warhammer universes literally operate on "belief creates reality" (which is one of the fundamental cores of the concept of Warp), therefore, if enough people in the world believe arrows can hurt daemons, then they in fact *will* be able to hurt daemons. It's that simple.
>>741513678
I'm baffled that there are people whose first (and only) action upon meeting Marazhai isn't killing him on the spot.
>>741513082
The actual Tau Empire, not so much, unless you're also a tau yourself, at least long-term. The Farsight Enclaves though, might unironically be the only "good guy" faction, since they realized the ethereals are nowhere near as benevolent (even to Tau) as they present themselves, and they are also very much aware of the more fundamental truths of their universe (e.g. the Warp and what it's current existence causes)

>>741514407
NTA but I saved Marz only once to get the bath scene, then I gave him to Jimmy right after

>theyre still sticking with the shitty unity engine
why?

>>741514407
I found Marazhai to be hilarious so I kept him around. Plus the way I kitted him out made him into a parry god that carried me trough a bunch of fights thus he earned a place in my retinue.

>>741514474
As opposed to Unreal?

>>741513265
TWW3 is so shit in representing the power of magic in general it's a fucking joke. Everything that is interesting about magic was reduced to shitty buffs or damage. Take for example a simple spell called Traitor Kin which in Fantasy forces mounts to throw off their raiders and attack them. A instant counter to any cav. In TW it's a boring AOE spell that slows down units by 25%. TW is complete shit when it comes to being a representation of Fantasy in every way that isn't visuals.

Is Fire Warrior worth a playthrough?

>>741514754
I assume you mean Pyro psyker warrior?
Sure.
Anything but Operative into psyker is a great approach

>>741514603
As opposed to literally anything else

>>741514804
He means the tau game dummy

>>741514804
no I mean the fire warrior fps game kek

>>741514407
i usually play my character like a 1 int 1 wis retard. there's a few dialogue options in commorragh that lets you be full of whimsy and completely unbothered by your situation so in my mind recruiting a hated enemy into your retinue is in character and a flex
>it's a bad idea
yeah and so is personally intervening in every single crisis where a stray las shot can end my reign

>>741514878
Not really, no.
Stick with Boltgun

>>741514749
>TWW3 is so shit in representing the power of magic in general it's a fucking joke.
Actually you could do that in Total Warhammer 1