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it's genuinely good. why the hate?
>muh story
so what? most FFs are disjointed and retarded messes with some brilliance here and there. it was always about vibes, music & aura.
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I could never bring myself to play it because the party looks so bad
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I played their beta build on release and never felt enough forgiveness to replay this dogshit game again because of it. Also the open world is bland, empty shit. No proper cities. Sex with Gentiana.
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>>741483325
i played the demo and got blue balled thinking the entire game would be like insomnia

ever since final fantasy has been the definition of illusion of grandeur
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it's boring af, and i say this as someone who has played all the single player mainline FF.
it and 13 are easily the worst of the 3-D mainline games no contest, and there's some others that are pretty bad.
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>>741483554
in what sense? like oyu like JRPGs but you think this one's boring How i dont get it.
>>741483434
it has a lot of secrets. and yes it is a 2015 open world so what it's by far the most popular genre.
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>>741483627
I don't care about 'secrets' if everything else is half-cooked and unfocused. The game doesn't even have a complete story
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>>741483665
elaborate. yes it doesnt but none of the FF games have decent stories it still hits where it counts I.E. the ending due to the bonding with the crew so that aspect works at least.
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>>741483721
Again, I played the game on release. I don't know how much they added, changed, reframed after a few patches. A friend told me they added entire playable segments and cutscenes because version 1.0 skipped a LOT of the narrative. I can't verify this because the release build was so horribly bad it soured me on ever giving it another chance. And I own the very expensive steelbook version which included the DLCs (didn't play those since it really was too little, too late). It's fine to think the game is good, but we've barely played the same game and neglecting the valid claims and complaints of people who bought and supported this on release because Square felt compelled to 'finish' it a year or more later, is dishonest. A mainline FF title shouldn't be a fucking Early Access.
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>>741484019
That's the problem, the game became good after years of updates and DLC but then never integrated them well so you need to play the DLC in a certain order in certain sections of the game to get the full experience.
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>>741483325
Barry, please go to sleep.
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>>741483665
This is a game that is most enjoyable by 100 percenting it. Getting everything, doing fishing and doing the secret dungeon were the best parts. The secret dungeon first and foremost as it's one of my favorites. Story is pretty short and butchered so treat that as the side game and the side shit as the main game.
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>>741483325
Retard.
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This is the worst game ever made.
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>>741483627
Xenoblade chronicles X is a 2014 game that came out on a PS3 tier console, yet completely mogged the shit out of that piece of fucking trash.
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>>741484449
Not gonna.
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>>741483325
16 is better, and even that game wasn’t all that good. That’s how much 15 sucked.
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>>741484573
Every Xenoblade is slop for people who couldn't play real games not on the Wii. Not even part of the conversation.
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>>741483325
It sucks ass though.
It has terrible combat and boss fights
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>>741483325
the hold button combat is incredibly annoying.
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>>741483325
Because it came out at a point where it had been so long since the last FF game, that people started pretending like any of the games had a good story
FF have cool moments, but there are 0 games with a good story
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>>741483325
>most FFs are disjointed and retarded messes
Is your entire experience with the franchise based around 7 and 13?
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You don't see much. Tehre are 3 or 4 towns technically. More like 2, or 1 really.
It's not a road trip, it's a town trip.

And the time travel dog ruins everything.
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>>741483325
its a bad ff game but a decent road sim game. Combat is shallow for a ff game and the love interest is poorly executed, also the emperor death happening off screen lmao.
royal edition+dlcs made it better though, i feel bad for all the people that bought it on launch. Royale edition turned it into a completely different game https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPHypsuXNKs
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>>741488674
>Combat is shallow for a ff game
13 plays itself. I can't think of a truly hard FF.
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>>741483325
>most FFs are disjointed and retarded messes with some brilliance here and there
you're not wrong but even for those standards this one is particularly bad, with ardyn being the only interesting thing going on

the gameplay is also absolute dogshit and the open world is unbearably boring
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>>741483325
>it's genuinely good. why the hate?
the combat is fucking atrocious
when will you retards get this through your head, jrpgs cannot be action mashy dogshit combat where equipment and skill trees and stats don't actually matter very much, it immediately makes the game bad
tales and star ocean can make spammy mashy action combat and get away with it because the game is still exceptionally heavily weighted into the rpg systems, the stats and equipment matter far more than mashing more
it does not matter how "flashy" it looks for normies and retards, nothing matters because you have removed all the parts that made it an rpg that draws people to play rpgs and thus you lose that audience entirely. they want to spend 50% of the game in the fucking menus min maxing combinations of equipment and stats, get over it this is never going to change they are not going to magically start playing your rpg lite slop



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