Why is this piece of paper so crusty and smells weird?
HEAR YE, INHABITANTS OF KHORINIS!
Why can't I just side with Gomez and become one of the ore barons? Shit game ngl.
>>741486982Because The Nameless Hero is an everyman, not a blank slate and he has a goal - get out of the Colony, it's said out loud in the first conversation with Diego. Also, due to the events of the game, Gomez really doesn't like you.
>>741487091His life outside can't have been that good, the ore barons have got it made - all they need is more bitches around which could be easily negotiated with the king.
Why can't I just side with the Sleeper and become a demon leading the armies of Beliar?
>>741486982Because Gomez is not going to let you, duh? The ore barons are him and his close chums, what the fuck ever gave you the impression he has any intention of letting anyone else in?
>>741487178Because I'll kick all their asses otherwise, simple as.
what's a healing item I can acquire in this game in abundance of?For some reason mana potion plants are pretty easy to come by but healing potion ones are kind of fucking annoying.
>>741487274Bugmeat ragout.
>1h sword>crossbow>heavy warder armoryep that's kino
>>741487274There is a shit tonne of healing potions to buy. Beat the shit out of some templars and take their weapons if you need cash.
>go for a new round because game is awesome despite it's many flaws>listen to Diego's 'Colony life for freshies 101' lecture again>tells me to go talk to Thorus if I want to join warders>do that >Thorus gives me another rundown, mentions I need Diego to vouch for me>get back to Diego and ask him in slightly pissed, accusatory tone: >Why didn't you just tell me?>Because I wanted you to find out for yourself.I wish more games would adopt this philosophy and let players figure out shit for themselves, giving them pointers instead of solutions.Makes it more satisfying than following arrows to next NPC or target highlighted on your map.
>>741487760It's the little things like that which show how fucking infantilized the industry has made gamers or tried to.
How much does this change from the original Gothic because I do prefer remakes to be highly transformative rather than be too conservative
>>741488270different combat, main quest changed in some places, some dialogues rewritten or extended, new quests and locations
>>741488270All in all it doesn't change that much which why we like it
>>741487274I got shitload of scavenger meats, but the healing property suck so better cook and sell it
>>741487760Yeah also the barebones map, and the map is just.. map. no quest marker unless you pin it yourself but i guess that's what hooked me in the first place you anons talking about this game.
While the tone of the nameless hero is different in the remake I feel they captured his personality correctly
Is Dex viable in Gothic 2?
>>741488515The map is small enough that eventually you'll find your way everywhere. There's some pointers related to quests you can enable to help you out a little.
>>741488702From what I hear yes, there are some strong dex based 1h and bows can do a lot of damage very quickly.
>>741488702Yeah. It's probably the consistently strongest way to play G2
>>741488270Didn't play OG Gothic when it came out but tried it recently for couple of hours to compare.Remake locations feel bigger and more detailed like Exchange point for example.In original there weren't NPCs or even infrastructure.You just listened to Diego and went on your merry way.Road to camp is also extended, there's more loot and enemies.Rivers and lakes are deeper with extra shit (like awesome starter bow in underwater cave very close to NC's north gate, besides the bridge with guards).The core of the story and dialogs are same but OG felt more terse.Combat is re-made and there's more QOL stuff.
>>741488702Yeah, dex is the god stat in that game.
>>741487760Such game would flop hard because game journos and dialogue skipping ADHD snowflakes rushing towards their next dopamine hit would be put off by amount of effort required to succeed.See the retarded hit piece review from PC gamer for example:>I thought I was getting an open world RPG that had a bit more grit than usual and instead Gothic is all sand. I crossed through the magical>barrier and now I'm stuck in here with people who think the first Witcher was where the series peaked.>If that's you, if you have made hating Skyrim a cornerstone of your personality, you will love Gothic 1 Remake. Turn the 6 in the score >upside-down and pretend it's a 9, because this is a whole-throated recommendation for you, my friend. For anyone else, Gothic remains>what it always was—an admirable edifice, a reminder it takes all types, and a thing you would probably be better off enjoying in >the form of a bugs-and-jank compilation video than actually wading through yourself.
>>741488979The remake didn't flop though, we just have a few journoshits either giving it a bad review or pretending they didn't get absolutely filtered.
>>741489031Indeed. This review came out the second the game came out. They probably didn't expect it would sell well because they think shoving dogshit down people's throats is viable for so long.
>>741489031>The remake didn't flop thoughIt has the advantage of established fanbase and fame.Random nobody's new IP with as many bugs as G1R has would be probably torn to shreds by everyone before they even gave it a chance.
>>741489136Fair point but bugs are an industry standard now, at least for AAA. Considering the og was made on a tiny budget with shitty tech, you'd think indies or smaller studios would be able to give us something comparable eventually. Instead the closest we ever got to og Gothic is the remake after the devs were massively shit on.
>>741489136That would be fine if it weren't for the fact that pre-release hype was practically null and a lot of people thought this was going to be dogshit based on the demos they released before. Most people I know that played gothic before weren't hopeful about this release.
Watermages have so much drip its unreal, firecucks and their rags don't even come close
Anyone knows where can I get my hands on meatbug scroll in chapter 1?Used the one near the old monastery already.I remember I got a few during my first run, managed to sneak to OC inner area through secret passage.Already tried Baal what's-his-name that teaches scroll writing but he didn't have it for sale.
>>741489437I really wanna play a proper water mage but magic is just not fun, at least after 3 ch
>>741489437>Watermages>dripThere's a plumber joke in there somewhere but I can't put my finger on it.
Is there a fireball rune you can find somewhere in the world? I kinda wanna try it after the buffs but I didn't buy the rune from Torrez before the firemages had their unfortunate accident.
What circle of magic is the Destroy Undead rune?Also does Angar only teach 2h in chapter 4?
>>741489854destroy undead is circle 4angar should teach two handed once you become a templar
>>741489873>once you become a templarWell the dumb cunt only offers me str and dex. I wonder if its the fault of a mod but I can't think of one.Cheers anyway.
>>741489771>Is there a fireball rune you can find somewhere in the world?Yes, if you don't mind murdering orc sages, like those praying near the blood fountain on your way to Sleeper barrier.You can bloodfly in from outside.There's a low wall guarded by 2 orc warriors and behind that wall are 'proving grounds' where you take orc weapon test later.
>>741488979kek I just went to read it>Knee-deep in swampwater, hunting for what I hope are the last bloodflies, I find myself thinking a blasphemous thought: "I sure do wish this quest had a compass arrow pointing me in the right direction like in Skyrim."This game is basically journo poison, come to think of it. The changes made to RPGs over the years were probably made more for these fags than the actual audiences. Journos want to blast through a game in a few hours/days with as little resistance as possible so they can write their review and move on to the next sloppa. They can't just play a game an hour or two a day and enjoy it for a month.Gothic doesn't give you progress on a silver platter, and on the flip side rewards you for taking your time and exploring and talking to NPCs who don't have a glowing triangle over their heads. And it can also punish you for being careless, sometimes a little over zealously. This is the wrong substance for a journo.
>>741489939Just out of curiosity - have you mastered one-handed fighting? He used to teach you without having to learn one-handed, but maybe they changed that with a patch.
>>741490120No I haven't. I'm doing a hard diff run and I need to save my points but I have enough to test it.
>>741490156>>741490120THEY FUCKING CHANGED ITthe dump cunts didn't even mention 1h mastery now being a prerequisite in the patch notesgod dammit
>used to be able to play for hours without a single crashes>play again after the latest patch>two crashes in less than an hourthe enshittyfication has begun
>>741488636Never played the originals but I love this fucker. He just shows up, does some unprecedented godly and shit and then runs off back into the woods. And the way he talks makes it seem that he utterly does not care about ANY of that, or that you're trying to intimidate him or that something tragic just happened. He is unfazed, just doing random shit for the love of the game.
killed all 3 golems but i can't talk to the demonwhat now
Was this guy present in the og?
>>741490712No, never seen him before, where is that?
>>741491186Close to the guy that gives you the tame scavenger
>>741490712no idea but there are several places with similar looking corpses>knife stuck in forehead >some orcish runes or diagrams in vicinity
>>741491265Did you also find a schizo letter?
>>741491304no, what did it say?
>>741491248No idea where that is, I haven't played the remake yet but I enjoy those threads.
>>741491342a few more lines about MY EAR!!! but yeah>>741491410enjoy your time, anon
>>741488702>viableIt's the dominant strategy due to the retarded crit system for melee combat.
>>741490674I just saw a streamer have the exact same problem, you can only fix it by downgrading to the previous patch on steam and then talking to the demon and afterwards you upgrade again
>>741491570So it's that fucking bug, it got me at the mine with Lester and the guys. Fucking moors said they fixed it
>>741488702Very, good bows from the start + some nice 1h options. Ranged can kill most of encounters at any stage as it's easy to cheese the ai. As a bonus, it impacts your lockpicking and pickpocketing skills iirc.Ranged>magic>melee for both the base game and the expansion
Can you get more than 112 through training? Someone claimed that unequipping stat jewelry would give more room, but it doesn't work for me.
Ball lightning might be unironically OP against single strong enemies now. I just ran into the frost shadowbeast and effortlessly cheesed it to death with it. Then I ran into my first skelly mage and repeated it, he only got a single summon off
>>741491863>Can you get more than 112 through training?Yes 117/Ask Horatio the rice farmer for a lesson when you have 112 and he'll give you +5Did it yesterday for my STR minmax char
>>741491883works like a charm since it stuns beast long enough to fully charge another shot
>>741491863>Someone claimed that unequipping stat jewelry would give more room, but it doesn't work for me.Worked for me.Anyway, the trick is to never spend any of the +stat potions for the stat you aim to max out. You just gather them all keep them stashed, and for strength you also wait to get Horatio's lesson. Then once you've reached 100 (make sure you've unequipped the stat rings/amulets) you smoke several blunts in a row to lower your stats and get them trained up at the instructor again, then once the high passes and your stats return to normal and being over 100, you chug all the potions/get Horatio's lesson all at once, and then finally reequip your jewelry.
>>741491820I finished it multiple times with all the factions yet never used ranged in any of my playthroughs. Nothing beats Firestorming the Orcs man.Dex Build it is then.
I bulked up so much scavs and molerats are running away from me when I start stabbing their family members
>Wondering whether to go for my second playthrough already, or go play something else and leave it for later.
>>741489437is it worth buying saturas' robes? I already have a maxed out warden armor that I've been using.
>>741492410No. It actually has worse melee defense in exchange for more elemental defense.I'm using a mod that makes it worth buying.
>>741489771Just punch out Milten and take his
>>741492410They're much worse than maxed camp armor. High magic resists but that's so much less relevant than everything else.
>>741490674this stole 4 hours of gameplay this morning from me. fuck this shit man
>>741486982Because it's uncslop. I'm glad all these remasters and remakes are exposing how bad the originals were.
>>741488702you'll be doing a lot of cheesy shit involving terrain until you can reliably kill stuff before it gets to you.you should focus on training dex to 60 asap so you can use the master sword. the game forces you into quite a bit of melee so you'll need something that doesn't take forever to kill.
What's the use for fire lizard parts if you learn part stripping from NC hunter guy?
>>741487760https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiB423i1NrM
Cant run remake, what are essential mods for first G1 classic playthrough?
Just got crossbow mastery, now reload speed is passable
>>741490674why is the demon so, uhm, sexy?
Is this remake fully playable? Or should I wait until a patch?
>>741493396it can be finished, it's still buggy
>find a legendary innos amulet in the abandonded temple that carries divine power of the god himself>it's worse than an ore skin amulet I can just buyno wonder Innos is getting rekt by Beliar, if that's what his divine power amounts to
im in act 4 now, so can i now go to old camp and kill all of them?
>>741493684suredon't forget to talk to blacksmith guy from the *igger part of the camphe'll give you a guest that will allow you to upgrade best armor in the game
>>741493345Othello
>>741493684Sureon an unrelated note, Fireball still sucks donkeydick.
are all 2H trainers tied to camp progression?any 2H trainer that can teach me while I still didn't pick a camp?
>>741494187>are all 2H trainers tied to camp progression?yes
>>741494187Nope. The trainers are Thorus, Cor Angar and Lee, and all of them train you only if you've advanced to the second stage of camp progression.
>>741494187Not just camp progression, they won't teach you unless chapter 3 started.Since the last patch it also requires mastery of 1h
>>741494209>>741494209thankswish some outsiders like Outlaw camp would have one that just takes a lot of ore ore something
I wish more RPGs followed PB's formulation of exclusive factions, looking at you Todd
>>741494251thanksfinished 1h training already but managed to snatch a nice weapon from orc temple while still in ch1revenge steel needs str 77 and hits for 92
>>741494375I think I know which one, it's called Rachestahl in german, Steel Revenge is a basic translation, one of the best in the game. Only Innos Fury and Uriziel are any better.
is it worth it learning diving and climbing?
>>741494704Generally yes because each is only 5 LP and on gothic diff you can get up to lvl 30 something. So no need to be stingy and you can use both to find some neat loot.
>>741493347yeah and bows become kinda redundant after that, if you get a war crossbow with high dex it's pretty much over for 90% of enemies in game
>>741494704Took me a second to realize what thread I'm in, and that you meant in game
>>741494342I don't know, PB way of doing factions is too frontloaded for me. I'd rather have a build up over time than most of the faction content be done before even joining.
>>741487760I remember during playtesting in dishonored 2 most people got stuck during a mission. You are in some party and a guard stops you if you try to go upstairs (where your target is). They got told you can't do that and didn't even try going upstairs somehow. Lmao.
>>741495030>play a game about being a sneaky assassin>don't go to the restricted area because it's restrictedPlaytesters were fucking retarded or what?
>>741494843I have 139 dex and just became a wardencrossbow mastery and bow mastery, i know bows are chapter locked so im still using that bow from the ship wreck
>>741490712I asked about him in the last thread...I think. I was already shit faced, don't remember if I even got replies lol. But no he wasn't.
>>741495134>were
>>741495151How does the decision to add such a thing even get made? Why did a moor ask his supervisor to add a schizzo corpse and note when it wasn't in the og?
Is magic in this game viable or is it just a lot of investment for mediocre result
why are there so many cockroaches is this how Spaniard moors live
>>741495268There were some useless things in the original for environmental storytelling I guess. E.g. that focus stone looking thingy in the swamp. It just adds to the lore. Was it the sleeper that drove him mad or something else? Woooo spooky!
>>741495268piece of extended lore here and there is ok and you find his handy work all over the areafound 3 corpses with cut ears so far, maybe there's moremight be five, each corpse has a circle with 5 lines drawn and each one has different line drawn with bloodor maybe there isn't and devs are just messing with us
>trying to find santino for some good ore>finally find him,>load a previous save, go back to where he was>nowhere to be seen ever againgod dammit
>>741495665>santinohow did you got him to trade with you?he's always 'all you have is junk, now fuck off' with me
I'm still in chapter 2 and I started playing when it came out. Get a life nerds.
How good is the magic after the last patch?
>>741495759He will only buy the deed that Lester finds in the castle.>>741495984No real difference
I noticed that game become more stuttery after the patches, it was not like this in the premiere
>>741495505Maybe it's a hardcore quest none of us have been able to discover.
>replay the og game again>decided to go full one hand/bow combo>still had to grind(spawning demons in sleeper temple) for levels just to learn two handed skill because the best weapon is a magic two handed sword did the remake fix this, in 2 you had more freedom when it came with late game options
>>741496209in gothic 1 you cant go bow/crossbow, in gothic 2 they fixed itnow gothic remake fixed dex and you can do the whole game ranged except maybe golems
>>741496209You mean Uriziel? It always was a pick between a 2hander and a (quite shitty iirc) rune.
>>741496328>(quite shitty iirc) rune.I hear in the remake its strong
>>741496106would be nice but it's probably just lore about a guy who smoked too much weed and sleeper ate his brainbut while we're talking about undiscovered quests, there's a bunch of wooden toys in ruined toy maker house with sad letter probably addressed to his son (toys are labeled 'junk' though not quest items so this one is probably nothing)
>>741496437It could be but the guy was wearing Bandit's clothes. I also heard about the toys but no quest.
>>741492853you need monster parts to make scrolls of transformation
>>741486679More censorship
What's with these statues I keep finding in random places? Are they relevant in any way?
>>741496706Junk to sell
>>741488702Yeah Get dex to 34 and raise reminder with potions/goblin berries to 50 and you can equip yourself with 100 damage 1h swordAfter that just raise str and you got endgame danai in the first chapter
>>741496871endgame damage*
>>741496543you can turn into fire lizard?nice
Would you guys recommend the New Balance mod for Gothic 2? I tried it years ago, but honestly, I couldn’t stand it at the time because I never knew what I was supposed to do next. I’m also pretty sure I softlocked myself after getting stranded in a giant desert with no idea how to continue the story. Recently, though, I found a walkthrough in my language, so I’m thinking about giving it another shot, especially after all the new updates. Also what's the easiest class?
>get my hand on 2 shadowbeast skins>woah surely these will sell for a lot>Wolf pays me 70 ore>maybe learning skinning wasn't a total waste!>give him one>price instantly plummets to 34 for the secondI HATE THIS NEW ECONOMY SYSTEM
so if i want to be a merc in gothic notr can i go with either bow or crossbow?
>>741496725That's what I thought, but then I keep finding them in places that seem like "secrets". Like at the end of that rock bow close to the guy that teaches you climbing.
>>741497063I dunno, playing while having to constantly consult guide for every dialogue sounds like complete pain
>>741490712There is a serialkiller inside the Barrier.Its propbably Mud. You understand if you do the Mudquest.
can you get Xardas's robe?
>>741497057Harpy too
>>741497357Serial killers are competent. Mud loses a 1v1 against a molerat
>>741497540yeah
>>741497357Stop trolling motherfucker, I checked up on him several times per chapter and there was no quest.
>>741497067Cavalorn should also pay decently for it, also maybe the mages
The snow area is pure kino at night
>get a quest to collect swampweed harvest>first harvester guy hands it over, no questions asked>second one is pissy, accuses me of being a fraud, wants me to kill bloodflies >spend some time killing bloddflies>it's slow because I am week as fuck but thanks to all the healing herbs I am making a progress>after a while ask for weed again>guy still doesn't want to hand it over, claims I missed some >takes a while to spot a remaining bloodfly>getting closer so I can kill it but it suddenly fucks off at MACH 1 for some reason despite me being still too far away>run after it >out of nowhere swampshark jumps up and kills it in one hit>quest finishedswampsharks are total bros when they don't try to swallow me whole
>>741497792I like how the kept the part about animals killing each other too.
First Risen had a comfy as fuck levitation spell. Is there anything like this here?Descending from monastery in Risen while meditating was the coolest shit ever.
>>741497930Harpy transformation at chapter 5, bloodfly only lets you hover a bit
>>741497752Hey, I took a screenshot at the same spot! I loved that imagery of having the barrier right there, illuminating the snowy area at night, feeling like you're in a corridor.
>>741497661nice, can you get summoning runes or is it matter of cheats
>>741497930>bloodfly transformation scrollbit limited because you can't fly too high above a surface but good for 95% of unreachable shit>harpy tansformation scrollunlimited gothic flight simulator, sky'es the limit (and chapter 5 because no one sells the scrolls earlier)>>741497997>bloodfly only lets you hover a bityou can get around that by switching into attack mode and mash UP, that way you can cross considerable distances without losing altitudeyou can even gain altitude by using scenery player char can't climb
>>741498074no idea here
>>741497930>Descending from monastery in Risen while meditating was the coolest shit ever.you can smoke a bunch of blunts, then use dodge when standing on the edgeyou'll tumble down without taking fall damage
I have discovered that ragdolling because of weed no longer deactivates fall damage. You die all the same.Sneaky fucking moors
>>741497063I've been playing it for 60 hours up to now, and while it is huge and has a lot of new content, I'm not sure I'd recommend it. The balance is all over the place, and the game expects you to grind and minmax.Some of the new content is kind of bad and doesn't fit the game, and especially the huge desert you mentioned is horrible.I'm nearing the end of chapter 5, and I'm glad to finally get it done in the near future, it gets really exhausting after a while.If you haven't yet, try Archolos instead, it's everything Gothic 3 should have been.
>>741497689Then you didnt checked well, its accessible in chapter 4. You may need to know where Kaloms camp is.
>>741498201>you'll tumble down without taking fall damageI'm afraid you are incorrect.
>>741498374>game expects you to grind and minmaxNo it doesn't because only the crazies will play on Hard, and if you're genuinely having issues on lower difficulties after chapter 1 seriously git gud
Just finished the game. Actually reached the ending a couple of days ago but decided not to go past the second barrier and get to the the sleeper fight before going around exploring all the areas I didn't (tundra, sunken temple etc) and genocide all the camps for the heck of it. Verdict: total kinoIs the Oblivion remaster any good? I got the urge for another classic RPG fix
>>741498480check older threads anons posted some funny webms tumbling down in new camp city
I'm whacking on the water mages with thorus sword and i need like 10 hits to do 15% damage, what the fuck
I hope they remove the difficulty settings in G2 remake
>finally time to take back the free mine>make it inside>charge my ball lightning for a big dick alpha strike>gorn walks in front right as my spells is about to be fully charged and autofires>hits him>he aggros and beats me to deathahh, just like in the good old times...
>>741498665Obliv is exact opposite of Gothic, High-fantasty with less gritty setting and god awful feel of progression.
>want to join swamp camp because I know it's a stupid idea>hear you need to join the old camp for the best armor (I'm a bitch and I want to be covered in steel)
>>741499094>(I'm a bitch and I want to be covered in steel)NC mercs have metal armor with some fur on shoulders
>>741499094you get the best armor in the game no matter which camp you join
I forgot, is archery viable in oblivion?
>>741498374>If you haven't yet, try Archolos instead, it's everything Gothic 3 should have been.I already did, that's why I am asking since so many people recommend it and pretty much tried all the other big mods. By the way anon, were you lost pretty often, didn't know what to do and had to look up a guide? Or was that just me back then?
>>741498714They patched it out
>>741498665oblivion remake is just oblivion without any attempt on fixing it's problems and few new issues on top of it
>removed rebel camps from intro>still present on ingame map
>>741498772Riordian was taking 0 damage from my 1h, guess this is what the devs meant when they said they buffed NPCs
this remake needs bulk eatinglimited to time when you don't fight shit, might even take longer while leaving you vulnerable if some beast sneaks on youjust let me eat 15 healing hers in one go
>>741498772>>741499482ummm why would you attack water mages?
>>741499548They're schizo
>>741497646Beware the fury of the friendly retard
>>741498895I was smiling and cheering at the screen when the game crashed for the first time, lol.
>>741499742Mud (Forma Super Saiyan 3)
>>741499742Will he return in G2 remake as a Seeker?
>>741499548I wanted to use the damned alchemy table.
>>741499941When you loot one seeker he has sheep entrails on him
>>741486679Did the remake do anything with Quentin's bandit camp, the one near where you kill troll in the main quest, or is it still just full of hostile npcs with no quest related?
>>741500000Blessed digits confirm the mysterious fate.....of Mud.
>>741500013one guy from outlaw cam is stuck in gomez' prisonthere's supposedly some quest to get him out but I didn't get it yet
>>741500013Thorus gives you one quest as a Warden, Lee too but I don't know if that's Merc only
>>741499990there are free tables at the inn
>>741499941Maybe he and Nyras didnt show up in the sleeper temple. New possible deep Storylines.
>>741500013Lee gives you one as a merc and there might be a way to get more.
wasn't there a shortcut to the castle in the original? I can't find it. I found some door near the marketplace that I think leads inside walls, but it requires a key.
>>741500338You need 2 meatbug scrolls for the other way
>>741500013>get OC quest to check on the Outlaw camp, find out if they are up to no good>beat up guys guarding the entrance>reach the top and talk to boss man guy>How did you get in here?>They let me through>What do you want?>Are you up to no good?>You're either really smart or really stupid to ask like that but tell gomez we won't start shit if he wont start shit>return to OC, beating up entrance guards again on my way back for good measure>report>guest finished
>>741500013You get a qust in swamp camp to make a deal with them
Gothic 1 = WardenGothic 2 Notr = MercenaryGothic 3 = Orc Mercenary
>catch that girl bathing>she is not naked but bikini>no big bush eitherremake more like RERUINEDWhen i was a lad we used the transfer controls to npcs cheat and jerked off to the bathtub animation in gothic 2
>>741500338>I found some door near the marketplace that I think leads inside walls, but it requires a key.Santino sells it later when he relocates there after old mine gets flooded.
>>741499274yeah stealth archery is great :^)
>>741500579no fuck NOwarrior archer, not STEALTH ARCHER
>Warden It's "Guard" you faggots
We need a mod where sell prices for everything are 80% lower
Im sorry but mercs in gothic 1 have ugly and i mean UGLY armorin g2 its redeemed because they get dragon scale armor so its the only correct choice in g2that is why guard in g1 is better
>>741492410not even remotely worth itjust wait like, 30 minutes until you get to the point where he tells you to go find xardas and go do xardas's sunken tower early for the robes of the dark arts insteadassuming you can kill a demon of course
>>741494704climbing is essential to beat the game; there are several points where you HAVE to climb in order to progress, most notably inside the sleeper temple itselfdiving is absolutely not worth it. theres nothing in the game that requires you have it to finish
>>741490712play the original and neverthis is all spainard original content fuck you
>>741500737Gardist actually. Für Gomez!
>>741496418its 250 force damage in a small (as in melee range small) aoe around you and the aoe persists and moves with you for a couple secondsfor reference, 250 force damage is about equal to the amount of damage a good two hander with decent strength is going to deal in one hitthe problem is that it insists you be close to the enemy for it, which means they can hit you, which is no bueno in late game, especially if youre wearing mage robes unless you use the mod which makes mage robes actually good
>>741500447retard merc all the way
>>741498474well? dont leave us hanging in anticipation anon, where is it?
>>741500848>Shadow Armor, you look like jester with golfing pants>Rogue armor, proper murderhobo with extra large bag on the side>Guard armor, literal dress, followed by dress with pants and finally good looking armor>Merc armor, hot pants, okay armor and finally giant greek disc on your chest plate for style pointsin short, you're a crossdresser
>>741501129Ok, that really does sound like trash, fucking moors cannot into magic, might just start a new Gothic 2 run just so I get to cast so proper fucking spells.
>>741500848Bandits and mercs in G1 have baller armor (the remake worsens it a lot though).Old Camp wardens have fucking skirts get the fuck out of here.
And then Innos said: stand in place for 10 seconds as you charge your spell and die
>>741501232gotta have the extra large bag to hold all of your loot from killing old camp cucks all day
It says a lot about people that the only way to get them to try something is to make it look like a generic unreal engine medieval fantasy game.
>>741501552game desperately needs to not be on unreal engine
>>741500447chud choices
>>741501449
>>741501552the unreal engine part is what repels people, not attracts themog being as good as it is is still 25 years old and plays like shit for anyone who didn't nolife it decades ago getting accustomed to jank
How is this not comfy?
>>741501449Obvious faggot's never been on the frontline, probably always had fighter in front of him while casting his gay little balls
>>741498895I'm playing a white ape. Doing the mission where you're exploring the orc cemetary with lukor or whatever his name is. The guy's follow settings are jacked up or something because he was perpetually up in my grill while getting pissed at me for being in his way. Like literally breathing down my neck no matter where I moved, screaming at me. I clubbed that nigga on accident about 15 times during that mission. I would have been pissed if it wasn't so fucking funny.
>>741501959My campfu
>>741501959do you not see the scattered possibly human bones on the floor
How do you do 2H combos (master)?
>>741502140left click right click e
>chapter 1, level 7, feeling like hot shit>clean the entire forest, only scavengers and blooflies, can even savescum a lurker>suddenly snappers and a bloodhound one-hitting me when I get beyond the freshie boundariesYeah this is Gothic.
>find krush-a-gash orc weapon>being ESL fuck know what krush is supposed to mean>google gash>deep cut or woundtransphobic much?
>>7415021402 Handed Master here, I am doing great thanks for asking!
>finally get into the orc city>they want me to fight their gay champion>beat him>all the other orcs aggro and beat me to deathIs genocide really the only option here?
>>741502218gash is also a slang for vagina>KRUSH BAGINA :DDDddd
>>741502202Breh the wolves?
>>741502339There was never a choice, Orcs are servants of Beliar, you're the Chosen of Innos.
>>741502409
>>741502409Dodge their lunge then three-shot them, what's the problem?Actually it's my impression or wolf packs are way smaller than in the OG? I remember you barely could catch one isolated wolf and the pack aggroed in unison.
>>741502339assuming you beat the challenger in Honorable Combat (aka melee only, no magic, no ranged) they shouldnt have done that
>>741500602impossible due to retarded scaling, past level 20 in oblivion enemies get more spongier while you're at peak with itemization
>>741502496No man there's like 6-7 big packs here, only pack I've seen bigger is snappers
>>741502498All I see is wasted EXP
>>741502498nigga i'm a noodle arm wizard with 28 STR and only trained one-handed, I'm not beating that fag in melee
>>741502479So you got your improved Ore Armor huh? HOWEVERTundra Wolves
>>741502560Alright you're probably talking about the forest between the OC and the Swamp which to be fair is where I remember packs being, I basically strolled around New Camp and the Old Mine forest which don't have a single wolf pack, at most 2 at a time.
>>741502637>HOWEVER>Tundra WolvesWhat about them?Genocided icy area near old mine in digger clothes with +15/+15 amulet from shipwreck and +10/+10 iron skin ring from who the fuck knows where.Took a while because they are bitch to fight as a pack but perfectly doable 1vs1, though roll is absolutely required if you're not going to pew pew them from afar with firebolt rune.
>>741502636then you get to genocide the camp insteadits your tax for being a mage, as if you werent already taxed enough
>>741502636Genocide it is.
Anyone know if I can get out of the sleeper temple once i am inside i have 0 potions and it sucks ass to heal like this by eating 50x flesh in a row
>>741502945you can teleport at any time or just walk out
>>741502764There's also some in the forest to the new camp but I know there's at least 5-6 big packs in the old camp forest near the shadowbeast
>>741503027>you can teleport at any timeisn't this blocked by the barrier and only available once you get the magic sword?didn't try but read it somewhere
>>741503027Well I can|t teleport thats the issue, i always get a no mana animation. i am just affraid of breaking something
man the ai is sooo shit compared to the originaleu ai coding is just shit in generaltim should've invested in believable ai instead of on graphix
Whenever you're diving, are those "currents" you see indicators to where there's anything worth seeing?
>>741503096>>741503128you might be fucked then i dunnoi didnt even try to teleport out until i got the sword because IM NOT A SHITTER
>the ai shitposting bot corrected itselflel
>>741503356It usually leads to a cave.
>>741503356as far as i can tell theyre entirely aesthetic and dont correlate to anything
>>741503356sometimes but not alwaysbut when they flow into some hole it's usually good to followthere's a 40 longsword on a skellie in one of those underwater caves for exampleawesome starter weapon
>>741503356>>741503471In places like the flooded mine some absolutely exist to show you the way, other times it's random.
>>741503416holy fuck you're so snarky you eu sloppasumer lover
>start cleaning up orc cemetery with my revenge steel and 129 STR>orc scouts survive 1 hit with seemingly empty HP bar>find +1 STR potion and chug it>there's no more orc scouts to test my new strength onthe positive is I can oneshot bloodhounds but I still can't touch a golem unless I switch to macethat's some serious slash defense there
>>741503996youre hitting a pile of literal moving rockswere you expecting any different
>>741504054maybe some chip damage?
>>741504142>chip damagethis isnt dark souls you gorilla
>>741504176Meleedos use chip damage cause they're too pussy to use B moves and charge smashes. I imagine other fighting games are like this but I'm not brown
>>741504472i dunno you sound pretty brown to me
>>741501959I really like these little cave camps scattered around. When camp members sleep outside the walls they normally sleep in constructed shelters. Because these ones are just caves with very basic necessities (and empty) it makes me think these were just solo outsiders who didn't want to be a part of a camp. So they left and were quickly eaten by ghosts.
>>741504176>mace the length of char's arm with smallish metal top wielded using one hand>does 1/5 of golem HP in one hit>two handed big heavy hunk of metal almost as big as the character >does literally nothingpile of rocks or not this is just stupid
>>741504529Brownoids never think for themselves. I'm the only non NPC to ever play the game meaning I don't wave dash, dash dance, chain grab or spam A moves
>start exploring the shipwrecks>it becomes night>can't see shit>can't waitWell this sucks
>>741504956if you're not too far from climber teacher area, there's a bedroll in the rock formation looking like big gate
>>741504702you... dont really know how impact physics or swords work, do you?let me explaineven the heaviest 2 handers in real life are only about 5 to 7pounds and the reason for this is because swords are edged weapons. their danger lies in their ability to cut by drawing said edge against another surface (like someone's skin and flesh)maces (specifically the heads) on the other hand are usually 10 - 15 pounds, sometimes getting up to 20. not only this, they are almost always shaped either spherical or in a way such that one teeny tiny little area is what actually impacts the target, which means all that MUCH HEAVIER WEIGHT is being concentrated in a MUCH SMALLER AREA compared to the long strip of surface area that is a sword edgewhat this means is that maces deliver immensely more concussive force upon a strike landing. swords do not. the threat of a sword is not the force it delivers, but the cut that it causes.now try to slash something like a rock (or metal) which is famously difficult to cut and maybe you see the problem. fun fact; this is also why metal armor exists and why people wore it, and consequently why maces and other blunt weapons became more popular as armor technology improved
I hate crashesI hate these tiny traversal micro stutters
>>741505040i hate ue5 too anon
>>741505024I'm all the way up to the monastery
>>741505032but swords cut straight through plate armor in every single movie and game
>>741505032>one teeny tiny little area is what actually impacts the targeti did pokes with the pointy end still no damagelook at the maces in this game and look at the two handersthat bullshit about twice or thrice IRL mace weight does not apply here why is it so hard to admit that among all the jank devs just didn't bother and punched in 9999 def no matter how you attack?
>>741505040>>741505103if on linux install lact and apply 3d_full_screen under performance highlight it fixed the crushes for me but that depends on your cpu
What level should I be when I'm finishing act 1?
>>741505292>pokes and thrustsfirst of all, your weapon still doesnt weigh shit compared to a one handed mace, and secondly, the amount of force output you can generate with a thrusting motion is vastly lower than what you can with a swinging motion because you are very literally not even using the weight of the weapon at all outside of inertiafun fact, this is also why you never see anyone with a mace doing a thrusting motion unless its got a spike at the end and its being thrusted into an unarmored person that has no resistance to it.and yes, weight and physics do apply. yes it is a game and the results are not exact, but its a closer approximation than average and i appreciate thatdont like it?use a weapon that makes senseyou dont see the mages here bitching and moaning that firebolt doesnt do shit against fire golems now do you?>>741505234thats because previous devs were being dumb dumb stupid heads
the fuck is this?and more importantly, can I do something or is it quest-related?
>>741505451it's part of a quest
>>741505442>use a weapon that makes sensei did, only noted that 'approximation' has some holes whether you like it or not also you keep dragging real life limits in fantasy game in which you can become literally superhuman
>>741505417whenever you want. it's worth going through early just to get some armor but you can finish it well over lvl 10 just by bullying the camp npcs
>>741505417Oh that. Dont even bother with the levers they dont work unless you have the quest for it.
>>741505612sounds to me like this game might not be for you, if youre either too retarded or too stubborn to use the right weapon for the situation
>>741506059Oh sorry meant for >>741505451
>censoredlmao consoletrash demake
I didn't play G1R yet, but I have a question. My main complaint with Gothic 1 was always that the side content was extremely front loaded, and as the game progresses there is barely anything but the main story to do. Did this change in the remake?
>>741506646__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________no______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
>>741506646A little bit
>>741504176reminds me when witcher 1 came out and I was too retarded to figure out golem fight gimmick so I have chipped away his health with swordtried same with that spider thingie queen at end of act 3 but she was oneshoting me and it took me some time to figure out I have to collapse the cave
>>741506775>>741506790I see.
>>741506646not really notheres a couple things here and there like the lighthouse tower and its quest which you can only reasonably do in chapter 3 or 4, but nothing big
>>741505417doing all quests is around 8-10 depending on how much sightseeing you did, unless you are minmaxer
>>741504702Enemies in Gothic are stat checks, not gameplay challenges.
>>741506991Additionally there's things like the dragons, that challenge your patience.
How would you do a hard run for the first 5-6 levels without any lockpicking in camps or doing any of the 3 escort quests?
>>741506646There's some quests added in, but in general it is still frontloaded.
>>741507142frankly impossibleyou have to get some sort of foothold in order to start the game and those escort quests or lockpicking is the only waywell that and visiting the old mine early and baiting minecrawlers over to fuck up the templars so you can steal and sell their very expensive two handed weapons; that too
>>741507142Get the miner outfit asap
>>741486679does the combat evolve beyond swinging a weapon left to right or right to left?
>>741507332there's up and down too
>>741507142Get a bunch of arrows (maybe 20dex for decent bow?) and swampweed for firebolt and kill everything that can move.
>>741507364oh shit now we're gaminghow soon does that unlock?
Are the animal trophies ever worth it on hard? I'm looking at the free trophies you can get via the beastiary and you can sell at most 10-15 at 2-3 ore each of them. Are pelts, skins, and claws at least priced somewhat higher? Learning them costs well over 1000 ore
>>741507423Find the bald arena guy and get him to teach you better weapon movement, good luck finding 500 ore
>>741507423press q and e once you did some 1h sword training, then you can also block with ctrl and dodge with alt. To get the dark souls roll find Buster in the new camp
>>741507423Press Q and EIf you're that new to gothic I really recommend reading the glossary, lot of good info in there
>>741507458stronger monster stuff sells more, but you're supposed to sell a little bit between each vendor to maximize ore and avoid volume economy
>>741507458they are roughly same in price and it only really pays if you sell them to mages over the course of the game, later you also get shit like troll and shadowbeast pelts.
>>741507476>>741507496>>741507524thanks, i just got to the camp
I give up. Spoil me please. I guess there is entrance to the tunnel somewhere with exit behind the statue.
>>741507319The Route:1. get the rider bow hidden near drax from the underwater cave, then bee line for the old camp mine, get templars killed via minecrawlers, steal their two handed weapons. also bait minecrawlers into a guard on the bottom level so they kill him and you can steal a decent one handed weapon2. sell two handed weapons to the foreman guy at the bottom of the mine. you now have ore.3. go to the old camp, get thorus's quest to get rid of mordreg, get him to escort you to the new camp4. train one handed OR archery and dump the rest of your LP into strength or dex depending on which you picked. use your previously acquired 1 hander weapon 4. head up the path to the new camp mine (avoid lefty), get free scraper clothes. OPTIONAL: pick up the field bow and the ring of dexterity from the new camp mine. difficult but possible if you juke the minecrawlers5. back to the old camp, escort to the swamp camp6. while at the swamp camp, pick up the quest to deliver the weed shipments from the fields. get both shipments, but do not deliver them, instead go back to the new camp and sell the shipments to the npc there for boatloads of ore. doing this will also level up you from the bloodflies7. proceed with the rest of the game
Has anyone made a map of all underwater/behind waterfall points of interest?
>>741500930I got to that tower but I could only find a skelly and a quest item
>>741507691I think it's only reachable with a flying transformation
>>741507691sorry bro. i couldnt find a way over there either
>>741507691Bloodfly scroll from one of the teraces/roofs overlooking
>last patch buffed magicAww yeah baby, how big was the buff?
>>741507741you made the mistake of climbing the towerdont do thatgo down insteadyou have to swim down and find a little hole in the floor, submerged under the water; swim down there and follow it and youll come up in the underground portion where the good stuff (including the robes) are
>>741507815Oh
>>741507764precisely 0% because they also buffed most of the monsters in the game at the same time so while magic did get more numbers, so did everything else so its still the same level of shit
>>741507764Fireball charge duration is a little shorter but damage is still trash
>>741507142pretty much like a normal run? >go to old camp>do all talky quests there, maybe kill some molerats>steal morgenstern from market>if you are parkour pro then you can go to cave where bestiary 3 is, weapon there is slightly better>have mordrag take you to new campif you don't want escort then just run by yourself to new camp avoiding combat lol, actually you should be able at this point>do some quests there, beat lefty and the guy for the house>you may try to beat baloro but with lefty's mace, 30 strenght it still takes like 20 hits while you are oneshotted so you need to parrymax or dodge>baloro's weapon will set you up for rest of chapter unless you go out of your way for something better
>>741507697But you can't get into the new camp mine until way later?Also for selling the swamp weed: you have to pay off balor for the hint to whom to sell to or cipher won't buy the swamp weed delivery
>>741507946guess its a good thing that you got all that ore from those templar 2 hander weapons then huh
>>741508031I just mentioned because if you don't pay him immediately that dialogue option won't come back and you can't sell the weed anymore
>>741508132Damn, I'll remember that for my next run.
>>741507945>actually you should be able to kill stuff yourself at this point*it's just scavengers and bloodflies, maybe a singular wolf
I just picked up Uriziel and now I dont know what else I am supposed to do in the sleeper temple. I kinda don't remember the og that well anymore wasnt I supposed to fight againsu a shaman that was invicible and then run away or something like that?
>>741508241Also Lizard that hit quite hard.
>when fighting against multiple enemies you can hit anything you touch, not only the one you're targetingSuch an easy thing that fixes group combat.
>>741508356not on the path to new camp, unless maybe you try avoid the 2 fuckos on the bridge and you go to he leftstill you can just outrun them, or with mace Q them to stun them
>>741508408You do that though, it just doesn't happen often with 1h cause it's kinda short
>>741508446Nigger that's my point, the remake fixed that.
>>741508508my bad, how is 2h for hitting multiples? Couldn't try it yet cause the moors suddenly made 1h mastery mandatory without telling us.
>>741508764its better because its longera sentence applicable in areas other than gothic's combat system too, i might add
>>741508348Sorry I meant this place I ve looked everywhere and I am not sure how to open it. Any ideas?
>>741508931ah yes, i got stuck on this very same area. i will assist you.turn around from where you're standing in that picture and go back to the big giant lava cauldron looking thing. if you havent already, turn that fucker so that the handle is on the other side; this will drain a cave that the handle is facing of lava, allowing you to go through it.youll come up inside that gated room on the right side of your picture, from which you can get to the upper walkway which has a wheel to open the big gate
>>741509034Lol, you were right. I didn’t even know you could turn the cauldron. I swear I walked past it like twice but didn’t notice any prompt. Thanks, Anon. Probably would have looked forever here.
>>741509258yes i wandered around for like 2 and a half hours before i found it, the game doesnt guide you to it very wellfrankly i just kind of assumed that walking on the cauldron thing would hurt me because... well its metal and its holding lava so obviously it'd be super fucking hot, but nope, it was fine. the nameless hero has some serious fucking foot calluses
>>741506646remember to always play the first 3 chapters and then close the game of the first and second game :)
>>741506775>all this lame ass shit for noyou just jizzled my jimmies, newbie
>>741501219next to the orc graveyard
>>741502498I beat him with a bow just fine, stay in the circle
>>741507691go up on top of the tower, transform into a bloodfly and glide down there
>>741486679Original one was better. Picture i mean.
will it run on my battered 3060(12gb)?
>>741509727A can give you a solid maybe. It heat up my own 3060 for a while until I used dlss 4.5, I also have had no stuttering issues and the like but yours may fare much worse.
I think I'm retardedWhere the fuck are the pillars in the orc arena that I need to read?
I'm frustrated by how late I found out the templars all carry gigantic ore bags in the shape of weapons
>>741495030That was the the fault of the developers. They needed to establish early on that you can ignore what guards say. What fags like you and >>741495134 don't understand is that when developers like Arkane establish what look like hard rules in a game many players start to follow what they think the rules are.Hell, Mic Matosis just had a video about this very thing, though he didn't follow his thoughts of aesthetic deception to its logical and rational conclusion, which is shit like what happened in Dishonored to those play testers. See, what a lot of faggots don't understand is that playtesters are both mouth breathing retards, but they also operate on a level of intuitive understanding. They know that what a player can do is limited in a game by what has been programmed to be allowed. Modern games are so hand holdy and railroaded, yes, even fucking Dishonored, that players establish in their heads what the boundaries of the simulation allow. The players might be wrong about those boundaries, but that isn't their fault, it is the fault of the developers for communicating limitation that doesn't exist. So, play testers are in a party after being told explicitly they are supposed to not draw attention to themselves, and get told, "Can't do that, partygoer," and they go, "Well, if I go up there I'll be making the guard notice I am not acting right and fail mission where I am supposed to not draw attention to myself," and so they go look for an alternate route that will allow them to continue without breaking the restriction. When the answer is that Arkane should have made it clear, "When the game tells you something you can just ignore it, it isn't actually a programmed in limitation."But what do faggots do? "Huehuehue playtesters are so fucking stupid!" And Christ, now I need to take a bath because I had to actually defend fucking playtesters.
>>741509727Well, I run a 3060 16 GB, and the game runs at 40 FPS without any upscalers. However, I use this tool called DLSS Enabler, which allows our older cards to run frame generation, giving me 100 FPS with excellent graphics. I fully recommend it to you too
>>741509860they dont actually existno im not memeing they literally do not exist, they're actually murals on the wallsif you want to skip the bullshit just: go to the fighting arena where you can learn to use orc weapons. there's a dead body on the left side with some fungus growing on it. pick the fungus, go back to the guard in front of the room you have to get into, and you should have the dialogue options to get him to move, becrause the 'burial rites' is literally just 'infect dead body with fungus spores so it gets fuzzy'
>>741509860You are not, there is nothing to read you are supposed to pick the plants from those dead orcs near the pillars and then go back to that orc that stopped you
>>741510036>>741510084damn that's dumbthanks anons
>>741488702You can't damage a few enemy types with a bow, so you'll have to use less damaging dex melee weapons for that and non-lethal duels. And you'll likely need summons from scrolls to tank dragons and help you kill them.But otherwise, bows are very powerful and you can almost always cheese enemies by climbing to unreachable spots and safely killing them.
why do goblin rocks do so much fucking damageI could kill 10 at once in melee if they didn't fucking underhand throw for 1/3 of my hp
>>741510837moors said they reduced that dmg
>>741510837now you know how and why early man managed to blow the fuck out of every other animal on the plains
>>741510837It's just the warriors, blacks and whites don't do any damage with rocks
>>741511225I only have 20 defense and have 6 niggers chucking rocks at me.
>>741511397Well then go somewhere fucking else
>>741511434I need one more level to wear a 2h and they are worth a lot of exp.I could 3 shot them if I had 1 more str.
>>741511467Bro just go genocide the wolves and scavengers leave the niggers alone
>>741511467Two handers without mastery (III), which is 70 total LP, are really fucking slow. Stick to one handers.
>>741511542what are you some kind of goblin lover
>>741507815ah, fuck.i found this place but I can't go further after dealing with a skeleton mage, I wonder if I broke something
>>741510837I swear they do as much damage as a normal attack, an oversight by the devs that feels gay because you are getting hit by a 2mph pebble
>>741511731you have to cast spells on the big fancy door to open itone fireone iceone windyes scrolls work
>>741511782Do the rocks do blunt damage?
>>741511841yes
>move from troll>he throws a fucking homing boulder at 3000mph
>>741511826Thanks
>>741511994He can also throw gobbos at you
they really nerfed destroy undead hard, it can't oneshot undead orcs, doesn't even stagger them and its a short ranged aoe that locks you into the animation for like 5 seconds so the orcs can just wail on you while the hero spergs outthey truly wanted mages to suffer
>>741512751I just bought that fucking rune and was farming for the 4th circle. By Beliars burning balls what the fuck is wrong with these moors?They said they buffed Fire Rain, is that true?
>>741513004don't get me wrong, it's still great for most undead, only undead orcs survive more than one hit. so being stuck in the animation usually doesn't matter.you can just run up to a skelly mage, cast destroy undead in his face and instantly kill him
>>741512751LmaololMeanwhille destroy undead in G2 is basically stacking the experience + popup until you can't see words anymore
>>741513080Isn't the last temple full of undead orks though?
>>741513113Same with Rain of Fire, it killed damn near everything in sight.
>>741513149yeah and they will wail on you while and after you cast it
>>741513149correct, I just spend like 10 minutes trying to get through a room with 2 of them bumrushing me
>>741512751It's like they don't understand the reason why that spell existed in the original.Insane.
>>741513351>>741513382I'm doing a 100% hard run so fuck me sideways I guess.
>>741502636LMAO apologies the orcs weren't understanding enough to let you fight them with completely different rules clearly in your favor
>>741513468They also didn't understand that mages were so strong as a payoff for a horrible early game.
>>741513597>horrible early gameIt's not that horrible considering that nothing is forcing you to not invest a bit in strength and one handed.The spells are very cheap, so even a minor investment in mana is good enough.
>>741513561Yeah, because stupid rules completly in their favor is so much fairer
>>741513892True but you know what I mean, the power spike for mages is supposed to be later so it was in turn greater than what you can do with bows/melee.Obviously you can kill everything with any weapon but mages casting map wide doom spells was just so satisfying.
>>741513597To be fair, mages have a pretty strong early game in the remake. Firebolt shits on everything in the first two chapters. It also gets stronger once you learn actual circles, so it stays your bread and butter for most of the game together with icebolt for flame resistant enemies
>>741513972Playing ork games like that is supposed to be for ungabunga swordsmen. A real patrician mage just genocides them all.>>741514097I am aware of that too. On the one hand I like it because it lets you be a mage early on but it's so strong it becomes even easier than normal dex/str builds. The tradeoff being that later game spells aren't as strong and if I was forced to pick I prefer the og system. Problem is not just power though, later circle runes just aren't fun or effective to use and on top of that the late game stuff only does slightly more damage than most normal attacks.Not even sure how to best fix that.
>>741514087Oh yeah, totally.I think the biggest problem with the remake magic (also an issue with G2 NOTR) is that it lost that cool factor of finding a powerful scroll as a warrior with little investment in mana and still getting away with using it to great effect. Even if they get the balance of the Mage right in 5 years with patches I'm worried it will be tied too much in large mana pool and circle magic scaling.
>>741514350I normally don't use many spellscrolls but I know what you mean. Thankfully there is already a mod out that lets us adjust the variables of spells. Ideally I would want an early game mage to barely scrap by with scrolls, basic melee and maybe a weaker Firebolt rune. It should be difficult and require great investment but pay off majorly in the end. Maybe just make scrolls cost less mana than the rune but they are also more expensive to buy or make.
i shid on shadowbead
>>741514627>I normally don't use many spellscrolls but I know what you mean.I just find it cool to figure out the minimum investment necessary to beat an encounter.In the original you can get away with a lot, like killing the golems early with only like 8 scrolls from Chronos and a bunch of herbs for mana regen. Then from there play as a pure mage using the golem own hearts as runes.
>>741515023>golems own hearts as runes.I never actually did a mage run on g1 back then but plenty in g2. That does sound cool, but the fact that big enemies can no longer be killed like that is also not bad.
Great game. It's like they finally put Skyrim on a modern engine. it's also really cool how enemies are smart enough to run away when they're obviously outclassed, even aggressive wild beasts know to run when they see you cut down 3 of their kind effortlessly.
>>741515239Fleeing molerats are hilarious
Why are humans such bigots? Why can't they just get along with insane cavemen worshipping literal pools of blood and human body parts?
Man, I forgot how bullshit the crits were in NOTR.>play Archolos>have to restart some fights 15 times because of crits>and you have to hope your opponent's first hit isn't a crit that takes 75% of your health
>>741509727I'm on a 1060.
>>741510957your cocklust has driven you insane. quiet or penetriation
>tfw when not smart enough to read a scrollshit suxxx man
>>741511397You can have 30 early game. Armor from the camp and there are 2 rings of iron skin - one near OC in a destroyed building and one in NC near the monster you kill for the dam quest.
>>741517872I looked around the dam a little but it led me to the basement of the inn.Clearing the old mine of crawlers right now.
>tfw finished the game and now having post-game depressionAlso if this wasn't a remake of a series I already know follows up on it, I'd be so mad at that ending lmao.
>>741518165You don't have to swim, just follow the path opposite of the New Camp when you got through Jarvis and go through there, there's a lurker and then wolves all across and the ring is somewhere I don't remember.
killed all the goblin fucking shits and now I have all this crap I cannot sell because apparently i'm already the richest man in the colony
>>741495274Mediocre to outright useless especially now that they buffed fucking enemies with the latest patch. So not only are mage armors and spells weaker now, swords and melee are better and safer with these enemy buffs.
I am almost at the end of the game and man I really wish these 2 would do anything new. Seriously I think the last time they did somehting was in chapter 4 at least give them some dialouge wishing you good luck or something
>>741518990I was pretty disappointed that the zombie tomb and harpy castle is the last time they do anything. Milten and Gorn are relevant up until the last act.Also an anon asked which was our favorite of the bro squad, yeah, it's definitely Milten now. He's the most helpful and fleshed out. Dunno how things work out in 2 and 3.
GODDAMN MINECRAWLER QUEEN IS TOO FUCKING STRONG THIS BITCH NEEDS MY FAT COCK IN HER FUCKING SPAWNHOLE
>>741519197If you have a good ranged weapon, you can literally kill her for free. Otherwise, hope you leveled up your strength real high and can both block her and kill her quickly.
>>741519283>If you have a good ranged weapon, you can literally kill her for freeI wish. Unless she's aggroed and chasing you, she just regenerates super fast if you shoot at her from out of range.
>>741518726going back to the new camp seems like a good time
>>741519350Nah dude, I've done it multiple times. You just need to shimmy a little back and forth in the tunnel until you find the angle.
>minecrawlers almost never attack me, I can just wail at them and down them at two combos>they rape guardsWhat the fuck is this balancing man
>fucking spaniards nerfed firestorm so hard that the undead shaman that uses it does like 3 damage to me in my high water robes rocking the ore skin amulet
>>741519473As a spaniard myself, I can confirm we hate firestorms, it reminds us of summer heat waves.
>>741519141Oh same, having him with you when all the mages die adds so much to his character
Is it worth joining Water Mages after going full bow/dex and joining Mercenaries? I am lvl 22, don't think I will be using spells at this point.
In this remake I can join Water Mages earlier if I join New Camp, right?If I do, do I miss the mage genocide? From what I've heard it happens when you're there this time.
>>741519704You'll be there either way no matter which camp you picked.
>>741518807To be honest, I like the new economy. It makes sense that ore would be pretty fucking scarce and it encourages barter.
>>741519704You can become a watermage in chapter 3 if you join the NC, which is the same time you could become a firemage in the OC anyway. Water robes are also just better than fire robes and watermages in general are way cooler than the stuck up firefaggots
>>741519745Well i'm bitching because it fucks with my autism to leave all that junk but to be far you still break the economy at chapter 1 if you're a completionist.
>>741519917don't worry, the armor upgrades will take care of that
God, I fucking hate this game. I just spent half an hour looking for Stone in the Swamp Camp so that he could improve my armor, and he is fucking nowhere to be seen. You know why? Because the game decided, for some fucking reason, to teleport him back to his cell, and now he won’t talk to me, probably because I already did his prison escape chapters ago. So now I have to save the world in this downgrade.Also, I fucking refuse to believe any of them tested Gomez and his castle, because nothing works there. All of the guards either ignore you or randomly try to kill you, even though I already made a deal with Gomez to spare him in exchange for his ore armor.
>>741520283it's a very homosexual game
>>741520283stone in general is incredibly bugged
>>741520875oh he'll show you what hes got alright
>>741520283Yeah, the Old Camp just breaks apart completely post-mage massacre and barely anything works. Hopefully Alkimia will patch it before they move on from 1.
Fuck, I didn't expect the Sleeper's temple to be this much of a difficulty spike. Granted, I'm playing on hard with limited xp gain and spent some of it on useless shit just to see what it does but still, I was fine before entering the temple but inside I had to reload like 10 times just to get past two temple minecrawlers.
>>741521626youre also wearing the minecrawler armor which is distinctly inferior to the ore armor (upgraded) or robes of the dark arts (modded to actually be good)so go fix that
>>741486679>/v/ contrarians say ai is bad>They love gothic remakeMake it make sense
>>741521759was ai used in making the gothic remake?
>>741521673I also wore the crawler armor I think that's normal. Xardas only tells you to get the ore armor after your first visit
I think the sleeper temple is overdoing the whole blood thing. Fucking rivers of blood, fountains of blood, floors covered in blood, blood on fire, demons rising from pools of blood...Like shit, this place has been sealed for 1000 years. How is there so much blood? How is it still fresh???
>>741489261yeah, im a huge fan of both gothic games (3 exists too, i guess) and i bought it at launch with 'i'm gonna refund it in 2hrs anyway, might as well check out how they've massacred my boy' mindset. absolutely no expectations whatsoever and shit, apparently if you sic enough autistic spergs at the devs they can be tardwrangled into doing a good (enough) job. shit's gonna be my goty probably, unless AC 8 is really good.
>>741518807lmao all of them?At this point I have a couple of traders I frequent to either blast my ore up or barter for shit I need. I almost don't like bartering with my maces because they go for so much more at some traders, I think I'd rather just have the ore and buy from those other cheap bastards.
>Syra's Stew takes strong beer to make (along with Mistcap and Cavern Dewleaf.... and carrots and meat)>100hp + 100mana>Strong Beer: 17 ore each>Dude in New Camp sells a tomato soup thing>100hp + 100mana>7 ore a piecePOR QUE?!!!!!!
>>741522184it's magic bitch like my huge fucking cockyou NEED to suck on my fat man tits while I bust deep inside you little man
>>741522704>eating new camp shit
>>741522704Unironically the hard part isn't the strong beer, it's the carrots.
>>741522902>Old Camp food.>Literal fucking bugs the convicts are stomping on with their dirty boots.>New Camp food.>Actual rice paddies and hunting on two different camps.
>>741522704every recipe worth a shit is like>2 veggies>water>rare magic plant found only in the darkest most dangerous caves in the colonythere's one that takes fucking dragon root. DRAGON ROOT. That shit that pumps your strenght in G2 and G3. I found like maybe 10 in my entire playthrough and its meant for a fucking soup that doesn't even increase your STR
>>741519468A lot of stuff in this remake are half assed. Like the new simulation for economy. It's entirely there to fuck over only the player and is just a shitty disguise to make you earn money slower instead of providing anything interesting to the game.
>>741500848Paladins in g2 have the kinoest armor, very sleek
>>741520283>>741520971>Stone got stuck in his cell and couldn't path through the open door>fuck it i don't need the upgraded armor>tp'd to xardas and went straight to sleeper's temple>took a wrong turn in the orc camp >i turn around and there's stone running up to me>'oy m8, thanks for getting me out, i'll reach swamp camp on my own'>he slowly chad walks through dozens of orcs without being aggro'd by anyonevery amusing
This fucking game. Every time you start feeling strong, some new bullshit reminds you that you're still a bitch.
>>741520283I upgraded the armor and tbqh, I still felt it was borderline made of paper against the last stage enemies, even with full defensive rings and amulet. Like, I literally couldn't possibly tank up any harder and the temple of the Sleeper non-basic skelly enemies were still three shotting me if not two shotting me.
>>741524034>that one room with 2 undead orcs bumrushing you as soon as you enterhad to quick load there like 5 times, i parried one nigga just to get 3 shot by the other one
>>741524016>get attacked by 7 wolves>they literally can't hurt me>who's the big dawg now fags>immediately get one tapped by a shadowbeast
>>741524128Honestly, on the second go after getting the upgraded sword and realizing the game had put a fuckton more enemies in my path after I had already run the whole dungeon once, I decided to just sprint past everyone and go straight to the final boss. That whole dungeon just dragged out way too much.
>>741524034It made the summon scrolls xardas sells more useful for more than just wiping out camps for fun
Is "ragout" how the Spanish pronounce "ratatouliilie"
Playing Archolos for the first time, great shit
>>741524935Ragout IS french.
>>741523916Lol, he wouldn't move in my playthrough either. Thankfully Mud thought me like 40 hours ago that companions will literally spawn in front of you and scare you to death, if you are to far away. So i just teleported to the sleeper camp took a nap and he spawned in feont of my bed. Probably the only time in history when Mud was useful
>>741525327in mine mud is dead, mauled by wolf lmao
>>741523090I legit found more dragonroot than I did onions
>>741490674The simplest way is to have all 3 golem hearts in your posession the first time you talk to him.
I don't know whether to go play something else and let myself cool down from Gothic Remake now or just go for another run...
i send crash reports from my pirated copysuck my cock LOL!!!
>>741525565what happens during the end if mud is dead?mud survived in my game so obviously he appeared but idk what happens if hes dead. any change?
Luv me some boggy shitswamps, simple as
>they didnt romance Mud
>>741528763Didn't love them enough to actually join the Swamp Camp though... curious.
>>741490674Every time I get soft/hard locked I have claude code fix it, hasn't failed me yet.
>>741529041we truly live in the worst timeline
>>741528814the swamp place is like the bahamus. or las vegas.fun to visit every so often, but you couldnt fucking pay me to live there
>>741528814I don't like the idea of bald men telling me what to do
>>741529186Yeah, but telling it my bug and seeing it decompress the save, find the relevant scripts, fix the save, and compress it is pretty cool.
>>741529406are you happy about the inevitable extinction of your people just so you can see that then?
>>741529594Couldn't give a shit, white people stopped breeding long before AI
>>741529713only because of jewish plots to lower the birth rate
>>741486982lol, the objective is for you to leave the camp
>>741488979>>741490063>>741489031>>741489129Journos have to review multiple games under a limited deadline (3 days to a week), and that's why early builds of open world games get poor reviews. It is an unenjoyable experience for them to figure out all of the mechanics without a guide
>ring of wooden skin>description: +5 pointuhh, what's the point of this?
Is nomine vacans liberabit vobis ex servitut
>>741531838maybe if you looked at your stats screen you'd get the point
>>741532351oh, literally point, like arrows. in civilized parts we'd call that 'pierce' but, gotchathanks.
>>741532495Yeah point is an odd name when pierce exists. In the original it was just projectiles.
>>741532351you got some big dick strength there dontcha pal
Battlemage has been smacking fools with fist of wind and doing one two-handed overhead. I don't suppose things get better. How about staves?
