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Hey guys, Mechwarrior 5 is free to play this weekend, and it's also on sale.
It's got coop so lets play together!
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Boomp
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>>741502207
Shit game, worst mechwarrior game ever made. Wasn't even worth the pirate.
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>>741504384
Why's it bad? Explain it to a retard like me.
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Is this the diverse and inclusive one?
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*STOMP* *STOMP* *STOMP* *STOMP* *STOMP* *STOMP*
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>PGI
Fuck off
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>>741504557
You have to use cheats (mods) to make it halfway decent.
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>>741504682
You're probably thinking of the turn based one
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I'd rather play MW2, 3, 4 than 5.
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PGI brought Mechwarrior back from the dead, sure they're not amazing devs but it's either that or let it be forgotten.
I genuinely think Microsoft has actually forgotten they own it.
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>>741505425
>Bethesda brought Fallout back from the dead, sure they're not amazing devs but it's either that or let it be forgotten.

Piss off.
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Wasn't this the one where the UI was completely fucked for coop? Like I remember anyone who wasn't hosting couldn't see anything but the mech, they didn't have access to the shop or map or quest info or whatever else.
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>>741505570
Yes. I don't know if vanilla fixed that but when we played we had mods that let the other players use the mech lab and map. I think the host still picked where to go.
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>>741502207
It's not mechwarrior but battlemech
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>>741504557
According to one review, it seems like your team's AI is so shit that you're kind of forced to play the heaviest Mechs at all times.
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>>741504557
it's kinda grindy and the missions lack some variety
your lancemate ais are pretty stupid and get killed
lots of qol stuff is missing that you need mods for
but other than that it's not nearly as bad as mechwarrior autists make it out to be
you pilot a big mech with lots of lasers or missiles or whatever and shoot other mechs
it's way better than the dogshit online game because you can mod the parts you don't like
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>>741505570
That's a good thing. Why would you want anyone in co-op randomly buying shit you don't need?
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>>741505972
>>741505936
>>741505258
Damn. Didn't know you need mods for QoL fixes. That's a damn shame. As for the AI, sounds like the usual jank I've seen in other games. Like Ace Combat 7.
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>>741504557
mechwarrior would be better left in the hands of Japanese, they would do the robots more Justice, this studio just makes some ugly half ass woke turd.

They don't care about this game, they just needed money and it shows.
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>>741506143
The AI is genuinely bad, they made an attempt to improve it and it was pretty much a half success. They're still often retarded.
Whatever you do, do not pick high difficulty Arena scraps that are either Team Combat or a Scrapyard shuffle. AI will often beam towards you if you're using high DPS weapons (Anything with a shitload of rockets) and the small arenas are just a pain because not all the mechs will 'activate' and fight.
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>>741506143
MW5 is old at this point and the release was filled with tons of gamebreaking bugs that made players quit and left a bad impression. Enemies would quite literally spawn behind you the moment when you turned your camera away from them. Modders did a lot to fix this back then until the dev team FINALLY (like years later) did something internally to prevent that from happening mostly.
The bad rep the game gets is entirely from the devs fucking the early versions so badly that most people still talk about how shit it was to this day. Vanilla now isn't AWFUL but it's still an inferior experience to using a few mods that massively expand the games depth with more mechlab options and more missions etc.
Default AI is better than it used to be but you have the option of using mods that make enemies and allies torsto twist to spread damage and cool shit like that.

The game is only relevant because of the amount of work modders have done to keep it in peoples thoughts.
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>>741506507
99% of mods fucking suck and make the game worse.
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The game needs all the DLC and a ton of mods. A free weekend is a horrible idea. Especially because MechWarrior is so dense you won't clock it in 2 days if you're going in blind. It'll just turn yourself off to the whole thing
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>>741504557
Maybe you are imagining a simulator game where your squad members behave in realistic, effective, intelligent manners while piloting their 60ton behemoth war machines.
After all, it would make sense that for a game of this type, team mate AI and behavior would be a priority to provide an immersive experience.

Well, too bad, because the team and enemy AI is non existent outside of very primitive and simple behaviors, and they have no autonomy, thus requiring constant babysitting and micromanaging or they get stuck on rocks, or commit suicide by holding still with their back to the enemy forces.

The AI is so bad that it severely stains everything else.
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>>741506659
and the 1% that don't suck are necessary to make the game barely playable, and are used by everyone who plays the game a lot

be silent you autistic retarded faggot
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>>741506714
They're giving people a small taste to get them hooked right before the summer sale. It's a pretty shrewd move.
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>>741506802
They aren't, because most of the time you faggots recommend garbage overhauls.
The ONLY mod I use changes how the lasers look. That's it.
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>>741506804
Except, as I said, they're being fed the worst version of the game. It's going to turn more people off than it'll entice
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>>741506985
>they're being fed the worst version of the game
Not even close to being true.
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>>741506892
No. You're just a retarded autistic fuckup. Nobody believes this or thinks this.
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>>741507016
Base MW5 is very not good. Please name something worse.
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>>741507109
I forgot I use these.
Every other mod is dogshit and makes the game worse.
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>>741507334
>using cheats at all
fag
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>>741507297
It's much better than it was, and includes most of the fixes from the updates that happened when the DLC were introduced. A free weekend will hurt nobody, and introduce people who were curious to the basic experience, which it delivers.

Don't make me defend this dogshit game just because you have an even worse and wrong opinion.
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>No sale on GOG.
>None of the DLC is on sale.
WTF PGI
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>>741507297
Launch MW5. Pretending it's the same game that came out in 2019 is dumb.
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>>741507334
You're just a retarded autistic fuckup. Nobody believes this or thinks this. There is no such thing as 'video game purism' when devs are lazy and objectively shitty, but the game can be modified and fixed/made better by fans.

Your worldview requires developers to be perfect, and have good intentions, but they aren't, so your worldview is flawed and retarded/autistic. Don't reply to me again.
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>>741507375
You know what? Fair. I was under the impression you thought it was actually redeemable. It's certainly better than it was but I dunno.
I think games like that will be hard to penetrate in two days but eh.
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>hey man do you like your new car?
>its okay but the suspension kind of sucks
>oh thats fine, you can install a new one yourself it only takes a little bit of effort, here I'll show you how...
>no, mods suck, I'd rather put up with a mediocre or bad experience than modify the intended experience of the person who sold me the car
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>>741507452
The mod devs are even more shitty than PGI. Well except for the reasonable ones that now work there.
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Are you bitches going to whine, complain and fight or are you going to fucking play the game? Jesus christ.
>It's got coop so let's play together!
Don't count on /v/ ACTUALLY playing games, anon. You won't find anyone to play with.
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>>741507650
Most people are retarded and say things like
>NOOOO the base game is unplayable!!! you have to use my modlist that includes the buttplug mod and hotswappable dildo in cockpit to play!
So setting up co-op with randoms is basically pointless.
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>>741507924
I don't mind playing vanilla but is this the kind of game where turning everything off is enough to vanillify it or do you actually have to delete the mod folder and some other random shit.
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Post invite code
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>>741508075
Most can be turned off from the menu but there's bound to be some stupid ones where the author has you dump all the files in the game's root folder or something.
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>>741507643
retard
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>>741508148
That's easily fixed by just verifying game files in Steam
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>>741504384
its an ok game. calling it shit is quite disingenuous.
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>>741508684
especially since clans is alot worse.
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>>741508681
That doesn't delete extra shit.
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>>741508729
Clans is better in a lot of ways, worse in others.
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>>741508919
retard
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>>741509085
Feel free to test it yourself.
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>>741508919
You are missing the point
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>>741508684
This. It's a fine game. Worth it on sale

I need to play some tabletop battletech, been a couple years but I'm feeling the itch
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>>741502207
Did they add basps yet
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>>741502207
>no gay kike anticheat
I'll try it out when I finish troubleshooting my pc.
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>>741509375
retard
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>>741507395
Base game and DLCs 1-7 were all on sale a couple weeks ago when DLC8 launched.
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>>741510512
Well I guess I missed out then and will have to wait
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>>741510851
You've got less than a week so no big deal.
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>>741507579
there are fundamental game design issues that mods will never fix
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>>741502207
Idk what I did but my starting weapon got destroyed and now I have a new gun exactly like the old one but no ammo. I tried to add ammo but now I'm overweight.
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I have the game and most DLCs on GOG so I simply wait until they slap discount on both Shadow of Kerensky and Chaos Reign before I get back to it. This was the only Mechwarrior game I played and really liked it, my only complains were about having way too many enemies at late stages of the game so I had to use heaviest assaults all the time (Kestrel and Dragon campaigns from DLC were thus quite refreshing when I was forced to use medium instead). Game was not as bad as /v/ claimed it is, my guess is that bad reputation comes from unpatched and early game versions.
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>>741502207
thanks anon very cool
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>>741506143
You don't need to,only boomers that used to MWO/Spreadsheets need deeper customization(really just making their mechs more imbalanced)
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Does coop have shared progression, or are you just a henchman to the host?
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>>741513239
The latter. Shared progression would make zero sense.
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>>741513590
What's the incentive for people helping each other out then ? In dark souls you get these experience points.
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>>741513779
To have fun? Dumb ass zoomer
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>>741502207
OH BOY MECHWARRIOR 5 FREE WEEKEND I HAVEN'T PLAYED MECHWARRIOR IN YEARS THIS'LL BE FUN HAHA REACTOR ONLINE ENGINES ONLINE WEA-
>100 gigs
Ehhhhhhh I'm good
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>>741513779
Fun, and it allows some people to focus on the combat instead of all the extraneous shit.
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why dont you guys just play mechwarrior online? still the best mech game i've ever played. theres an event going on right now where you can get multiple free hero mechs of your choice
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>>741514136
Because mechwarrior is for fags, I play tabletop battletech
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>>741514257
never played tabletop but i love the battletech pc game
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>>741514136
>why don't you guys just play p2w live service garbage?
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>>741514513
its not p2w, in fact the post you are replying to just said you get a bunch of hero mechs for free if you play it now
>>741513951
retard
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>>741514513
its not p2w, its one of the most generous f2p games i've ever played. been playing it for years and i have more c bills than i could ever spend. i still buy packs sometimes though just to support the devs to keep the servers running
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>>741514569
I used to play it years ago and always liked it but I'm not really interested in pvp these days, mw5 with mods is chill and I enjoy the mech building most so it's all good
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>>741514136
I agree its a very good game, but if you want campaign progression and mech building autism isn't not that great for that, since you're heavily coerced to build into a meta due to it being multiplayer.
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>>741514569
>hero mechs
gay shit like this is why i don't play mechwarrior online
PGI is not good at making a fun and balanced game, they insist on wacky weird shit and janky mechanics
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>>741514136
Because it's a terrible game built around an ever expanding treadmill. I remember when they removed a bunch of baseline shit and turned it into a tree you had to unlock instead.
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>>741514750
autistic retard
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>>741514786
typical dogshit player blaming the existence of a progression tree for his .75kd and 40% win rate
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>>741514786
you mean the sp tree? i mean it only takes a couple games to get enough sp to max out a tree, i dont see what the big deal is
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>>741514880
>progression tree
>in mechwarrior
dogshit game, don't play it
imagine defending this war thunder knockoff
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>>741514880
Lol I played since the beta. I posted the first webms of the game here on /v/. It got worse and worse over time with mull grindy garbage added to appeal to whales.
They even removed tripping from the game because their netcode was too dogshit to handle it.
Go buy another golden mech so your game doesn't piss itself and die.
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I really dislike the nu-designs. I dunno what it is specifically, but it makes the entire setting feel much more generic and uninteresting.
Even at their goofiest, the old mech designs were much more interesting to look at and I think they highlighted the difference in design between houses or inner sphere/clans better.
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>>741502207
how is the newest DLC? shadow of kerensky was pure kino
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>>741515051
>year 2026 anno domini
>gamer has a choice:
>pay $500 to PGI and get a clan omnimech
>or pay $500 to gacha and get an animated waifu
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>>741515051
>posts a pic of a sale they did 13 years ago which received so much backlash from the community they never did it again
really is that the best comeback you've got?
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>>741514136
I hate the grind and I cant see how the playerbase isn't exclusively 30-40 year old sweats that torso twist like motherfuckers and have an intrinsic knowledge of all the maps, mechs and best builds. I just want to have a couple of beers and stomp around in my well tuned mech with a couple of my buds. Basically I'm bad and have no intention of getting better, yes this is a dad gamer take, no I dont care.
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>>741515231
there are a ton of terrible players in the lower ranks surprisingly. its even more fun than high tier imo
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>>741507334
>coyote mission pack
>vonbiomes
get these two, fool. they massively improve the mission and location variety
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>>741515330
>terrible players muckin' about in mediocre mechs
this is what battletech is all about
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>>741515225
A lot of the people who hate PGI usually only touched these games on release and never again
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>>741513951
When it comes back down you better fucking buy one this time because it will only get worse in the future. Games are probably going to be 250GB monstrosities in a few years. We're already starting to see 32GB of RAM "recommended" on fucking lego games.
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>>741515590
i'm guilty of this desu. i tried it a few different times several years ago and i don't trust them to have made it any better because most of the gameplay clips i've seen have still been hella gay.
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>>741514569
>its not p2w
any game with a premium currency you have to buy gameplay stuff with is p2w. I don't care what cope you come up with.
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>you only get good rewards if your team wins
>game has forced-50% winrate
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>>741515725
mechs can be purchased with earnable currency in the game, and they regularly give out premium currency for free + premium mechs for free
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>>741515829
how much are they paying you?
i hope you're not shilling this for free
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>>741515891
i just like the game m8(im definitely not getting paid in hero mechs)
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>>741515829
cope
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>>741515404
Fuck no. They both suck.
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MWLL is superior and more fun.
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>>741515829
That's still P2W. You can earn currency, or you can whale and buy it. Games that only sell cosmetic shit with premium currency aren't P2W.
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Shartrannies exposing xherselves as mongoloids who never played any of the Mechwarrior or battletech games at all and bullshitting through xhir fingers in process.

Also what is this new cope that modding is le bad? is this their new flamewar bait.
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>>741505334
Why aren't they available on digital storefronts AT THIS VERY MOMENT IN TIME
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>>741516507
Because there's fewer active players?
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What are some mech games other than MechWarrior/BattleTech and Armored Core
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>>741516556
MWO isnt pay 2 win retard, is pay 2 lose because metafags even at low tier dictates everything and god forbid pissing muh jarl and muh grimmechs off.

a fucking piranha will rape your ass sideways, if your team is full of morons.

Mech5 ever since shadow of kerensky is LITERALLY a blessing compared to mwo.
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>>741516962
It's P2W by definition. Just put the fries in the bag.
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>>741514136
MWO has the best gameplay for mechs and theorycrafting
Shame that is married to PGI

>>741514750
>>741516556
MWO is not pay to win
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>just got home from playing battletech
>see this thread
neat
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>>741506193
how the hell can you make robotic mechs woke? come on
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>>741512862
no problem fren
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>>741514257
>gray
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>>741517128
It's not about the robots. There's like 75k pages of novels out there with all sorts of political intrigue. Wokies can corrupt that lore.
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>>741517128
catalyst finds a way to if you play tabletop but you can honestly just ignore the insane troons who write stories for battletech
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>>741517064
i agree, mwo could have been much better without pgi, but it could've also been a lot worse too. im just grateful they kept it up and running for all these years even though it was never a massive success
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>>741517128
Muscle myomers
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>>741516479
your attitude sucks, faggot
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>>741517262
>im just grateful they kept it up and running for all these years even though it was never a massive success
Yeah I mean because the original devs and engineers did a marvelous work on it and everything great on the game its because of them
PGI lost the code and the engies and fucked every development opportunity afterwards but it is still a GREAT game to play right now. I'm still in love with my Hunchback 4G. Hunting players and fighting in that game feels great. Weapons and effects and teamwork is great. And the progression and ingame credits earning isn't so bad as any ANY other similar game like Grind of Tanks or War Thunder
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>>741517429
Your solitude is welcome, welcome.
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>>741517481
I want to fuck that mech.
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>>741502207
I just install WarFX so weapons actually look like they are doing damage instead of stock UEngine explosions
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>>741517470
I know the meme is japmech v japmech but I still vastly prefer the visual style of the mechs on the right
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>>741515134
I think you're in the minority on that one bro
The older designs are so goofy
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>>741517554
Sorry but she's taken, HBK-chan and her sisters only accept one pilot in their cockpits and that's me.
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>>741502207
same MW as it's always been but with cool graphics and a lot of random gameplay. It's quite fine, given the last one was 20 years ago.
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>cat ears
>plugsuit
>neurohelmet
>reactor online
it's gaming time
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bought the base game a month ago with the first essential DLC and I'm really loving it. Most important mods are on the steam workshop and is easy to grab. Here's what I use as of now (gonna pop YAML once I get more accustomed to the game)

>workshop
Mod Options
Disembark Mech
TTRulez_AImod2
Co-op mode unlocked continued
Cockpit glass (manually edited because another visual mod)
Advanced zoom
Heat Gauge

>Vortex
Ultra Visual and Weather (its this one that conflict with cockpit glass)
MW5 Load order
And lastly and importantly an Engine ini tweak that fix stuttering
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>>741517869
>plugsuit
Mechwarriors are near naked due to the heat.
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>>741502207
Luv davion https://youtu.be/3QKFwZi59vQ?is=9wYToZ3zYOrRcYi4
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>>741516760
There's still enough to fill a server on Saturdays. pic related was today.
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>>741518184
herp
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>>741518008
Before the memory core helm? yes, by 3045 cooling suits and better neurohelmets were becoming widespread, clanners accelerated the process.
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>>741518124
Davion Anya is cute, CUTE!
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>>741518008
Elemental pilots do this. Why won't PGI make a cinematic expansion covering the trials and tribulations of an all female clan ghost bear elemental squad during operation revival? There could be comfy locker room fan service segments.
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>>741516882
Robotech
Battle engine
Mech engineer
mechabellum
Heavy gear
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>>741518437
Imagine the braps of a 9 foot female elemental with biceps as big as your head.
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>>741518437
PGI admitted they only have the budget for 30 mins of cutscenes. Straight from a Sarna interview.
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>>741517554
I really liked MWO because of the theorycrafting and the fact that Mechs do have this expression and details that make them different or unique with just stats, hardpoint placement and capabilities. You can memorize chassis and know what to build and what to attack when fighting others and it does matter in split seconds.

I have a finely tuned HBK-4G with just 17 AC20 rounds and two Med Lasers and a small one just to add a bit of firepower. The engine was the fastest you could fit without losing rounds and heatsinks or tankiness. It can get up to 56KMPH or so, and it is a great heavy killer. 17 rounds of AC20 is more than enough to kill an assault, not to mention same class, and can tank above its weight. It is just an old but very sturdy chassis both ingame and in the lore, and works as an excellent brawler and enforcer

TLDR hits like a truck and FUCKS shit up
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>>741518506
Better be careful for what you wish for anon, last thing you know this thing is the one slapping your ass then dubbing you her little surat.
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>its actually true that battletech fans are old never happy elitist uncs
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>>741518992
Sex with Evantha Fetladral.
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>>741519056
battletech fans are based unlike geedubs cocksuckers
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>>741519056
battletech is fucking unbalanced yet somehow more balanced than mechwarrior slop. That's how sad that mechfps franchise is
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>>741519056
We can criticize it because we do like it you moron. We'll seethe all day long that the series peaked at 3 and we're STILL doing the clan invasion but we still buy it on discount and know in the bottom of our hearts we really don't want to go past the FedCom Civil war because good god
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>>741519585
I think in general it's easier to balance turn based games.
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>>741519585
>lucky cockpit crit takes down an atlas in one shot
RNG is fucking frustrating.
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>>741507371
/twg/?
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>>741518439
Gunmetal.
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>>741518008
>Mechwarriors are near naked due to the heat.
Full-body cooling suits are LosTech. Clan warriors could wear a full-body cooling suit, but prefer to go half-naked to show off their warrior physique.
We CAN have plugsuits. Trvst the plvn.
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>>741519752
ilKhan era isnt bad, but again, the only way to make it work is through the grayson sublings and the northwind shortstack sisters since one is now promoted to head honcho of the jade falcons after malvina the sociopath almost wiped them out to kill Charles ii of alaric ward.
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I would pay real money to see a MW game set during jihad

It would be so unfun and awesome
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>>741502207
Fun game, even if if it kind of failed.
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>>741520064
I thought clanners just had cooling vests, so you're basically in a vest, no shirt, and boxers.
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no more clan invasion settings/storylines please
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But Armored Core VI exists and VI > 5
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>>741520310
Clan Invasion and Jihad are the best lorewise and techwise, but elementals are fucking irritating in combat.
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>>741520348
AC6 is just ZOE not AC.
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>>741520310
MW5 is moving to Operation BULLDOG and Operation SCORPION, so there is Hope that the game will end at the end of the Jihad with the cast at their 70's.

Clans will obviously follow the clan side of the shitshow, because oh boy the clans were assfucked by that faggot Marik hard.
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>>741520408
That is an excellent thing.
We need more Orbital Frames and fast mechs.
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>>741520348
Fagorett Cunt 6 isnt armored core
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>>741520631
Ok, go play ZOE then leave AC to people that like AC.
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>>741520670
Agreed. It's better.
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Stop talking about Jap mechs in my Burger Mech thread ffs god dang
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front mission is better than armored core tbqh
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>>741520784
The plots certainly are. AC is written like a low budget chinese copy of a korean sequel to a unpopular japanese anime from the 70s.
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>>741520970
You've never played the games. Most Front Mission plots are straight up garbage with some edgy shit thrown in occasionally.
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>>741520765
it is acfag who found this thread, probably because there is no square enix threads for him to shit up.
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>>741502207
Don't you need a list of mods to make the multiplayer not dogshit?
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>>741521049
You didn't play AC then. Most of it's plot a pure nonsense and bullshit asspulls that make zero sense.
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>>741514136
megamek and MWLL
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>>741521049
AC has ancient aliens. It has jumped the shark so bad it isn't even funny lmao.
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>>741518439
I recently played through Aquila. It was very fun, not perfect, but fun. The missions really felt like being part of battles, and it was cool that the game let you tackle them the way you wanted. Wish someone would make something similar.
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>>741521170
Front Mission has Alex Jones bodyjack military personnel and form a terrorist army of clones.
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>>741514136
MWO is dogshit. Everyone runs gay little ECM peekers or 2km snipers. The cauldron was a mistake.
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>>741521365
Ancient aliens.
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>>741520715
Nah. AC7 will be even faster.
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>>741521560
The Alex Jones retcon is way more stupid.
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>>741521403
Arrow IV meta is the new shit, ecm and sniperfags were nerfed.
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>>741521597
I never liked these floaty speed anime shit games
I just want my mechs to be lumbering steal beasts loaded with fire power
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Post mechs
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>>741522035
But can you buy arrows with cbills yet?
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Reminder anything past the year 3025 is not canon.
The clan invasions and above are a mistake
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Are the battletech books any good or do they enforce the status quo by any means necessary
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>>741522342
I've only read the Grey Death Legion books but I thought they were pretty good. It does change things in the setting at the end of the books if thats what you mean
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>>741522183
fuck off 3015 fag.
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>>741522696
>fuck off core fan! it's newfag with shit taste hours!!
lol
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>>741522696
>t.clan era+ lover
super gay anon, ruined my fucking day for admitting that shit
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>>741522752
You never played mechwarrior or tabletop under 3015 rules, clans were better.
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I played it vanilla for a hundred hours in 2023 and had fun before burning out. I'm kinda itching for it again even though the lategame did get repetitive. Recommend me some good mods to improve the experience please.
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>>741522991
Get the DLCs instead.
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Ive been playing RogueTech lately

The mod for Battltech

Its definitely been an awful experiene
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>>741514257
LMAO, this loser got bid down to a lance instead of a star and his mechs aren't even painted.
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>>741523131
Blind or can't count?
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>>741505936
IF we're talking about Battletech 2018, yeah, you kind of have to but that's primarily because that game loves to spam multiple lances of enemies at you so you have to use the heaviest mechs with the most free tonnage for weapons/armor. MW5 the AI for your lancemates is incredibly stupid and will have to be babysat a lot with orders to get any real mileage out of them, but at least with light mechs they will run around, keeping mobile, and will kill tanks and aerial craft reasonably well. Sadly they will attempt to brawl with every other kind of mech, including shit like a Cicada or Phoenix Hawk which should never be doing that in the first place.
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>>741523079
I own three of them. Some of the later ones seem interesting but I'd rather wait for a sale.
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>>741523381
they fixed that on the kerensky dlc update
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>>741523381
>he AI for your lancemates is incredibly stupid and will have to be babysat a lot with orders to get any real mileage out of them
Just double tab F1 once in a while and you're good.
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>>741502207
Kill Spheroids!
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>>741523550
The best results I've gotten is to F1>F3 to move them up to the enemy and one they're in effective range assigning each one to a specific target.
Telling them all to target one enemy from beyond their range makes them waddle around trying to get line of sight which wastes a lot of time.
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>>741522991
YAML, TTrulez AI, coyotes missions, armor green are the four basic mods I run in MW5. YAML gives you a greatly expanded mechlab that lets you do off lore things like swap engine cores but the level of build nitpicking you can do with makes the game far more enjoyable; there's also a bunch of associated mods that add more mechs and variants but that's up to you. TTrulez AI makes your lance mates less retarded in vanilla missions and makes enemy AI actually threatening without just turning them into cockpit snipers (they will actively form firing lines, torso twist and use their jump jets in combat now). Coyotes missions adds more mission types including some fun large scale missions that scale well into the late game when you're running nothing but assault mechs during clanvasion. Armor green is just qol and gives the paper doll a color gradient that's easier to read. There's a BT purist around here that'll screech at these recommendations but pay him no mind, he's a retard. Also you can pirate all of the DLC with cream installer if you own the base game.
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>>741523297
Ah, I see the scout mech now, can't tell what it is though. Probably thought it was terrain on first pass.
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>>741523478
>they fixed that on the kerensky dlc update
Pirated it and the AI is still fucking retarded
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>>741523757
One thing I don't like about TTAI is the changes he made to boosting. The vanilla boosting in DLC 8 is fun as fuck.
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>>741523757
Is the installer by froggmaster?
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>>741523550
I use a lot of "focus on my target" and "go there" commands to move them around and clean up chaff, but they will still do legendarily stupid shit, occasionally get stuck on terrain (which was supposedly fixed but it still happens) often show their ass to the enemy to get back into formation when done with their previous command, and slew of other shit. The only saving grace is that the opfor AI is equally retarded, so it becomes a slap fight between retards and I'm the sole handler around trying to create order out of chaos.
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>>741524029
Yeah, some of his JJ changes were a little contentious but I think he gives you instructions on how to revert them. I haven't really looked into it myself.

>>741524160
I don't remember, I have a version from 2024 before it got forked and one of those forks got compromised then taken down at some point last year. I also don't recall if you need the DLC files or not since I ended up pay piggying because I'm a good goy and want to give money to the only people keeping the IP alive even if they're kind of shit stewards at times. Regardless, cs.rin has all the info you need and if nothing else you can just use the original cream api if you don't trust it.
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>>741506659
>>741506892
>>741507334
>>741507643
>>741516479
>>741517507
Uh oh, cucksole tranny melty
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>>741524719
Can you drop a zip if possible?
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>>741514136
>still the best mech game i've ever played
Play more than one mech game then retard
>>741515231
Funnily enough this is not a problem until you reach the top ranks and even then half the lobby is still made of barely sapient boomers that don't know how to not bodyblock people in chokepoints let alone "advanced" concepts like torso twisting. Half of them will sit at spawn spamming LRMs to zero effect too. If you want to play it hammered you're in the right company, hell you'd probably outperform the vast majority of the mobility scooter parade. Maps can take a few matches to learn but they operate on vote system so you can ignore 70% of the pool and the 30% that gets played are on the simpler side as no one wants to play
>capture the point and sit on your ass for 5 minutes waiting for points to fill up as the last opposing enemy light mech prolongs the match for 300 more C-bills instead of charging at you to end it faster
As for
>best builds
whatever has the highest alpha strike on whatever chassis you like the most
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>>741525157
https://litter.catbox.moe/175619osvecyxydn.rar
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>>741522049
Slow mechs make no sense.
If they are piloted, hit them with napalm or some heat shit and the pilot dies.
If they are AI controlled, an easy EMP will pause them long enough for a bigger bomba to dismantle them.

They have to be fast.
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>>741525729
Nah, battletech has lore for that, God bless General Motors.
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>>741525667
based
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>>741504557
Mechwarrior 2 Mercenaries still is the best game ever made in history of Battlemech
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Mod list:
Animation Rework - All DLCs
Advanced Camera Controls
Armor Green
Audiostash Ultimate
Ballistic Visuals
Better Lighting in Mech Hangar and Operations
Better Markets
Burning Ashes
Coyotes Mission Pack And Mission Overhaul
Enhanced Critical
Expanded Company Logos
Exotic Mechs (formerly Exotic Inner Sphere Mechs) (YAML)
Field Repairs
Gauss Visuals
Harmonic Warfare - A MechWarrior 2 Music Mod
Improved Mech Shader
Jumpjet Visuals
Laser Visuals
Leopard Colors
Lore-based Mech Variants - YAML
Mech Delivery
Mod Options
MW2 Betty Voice Ultimate
MW5 Mod Compatibility Pack
No Dialog HUD
Nostalgic Reactor Explosion
PPC Visuals
Simple Zoom
Source HD Texture
Stuffed Crates - A Stacked crates Temp Fix
Ultimate Engine Tweaks
vonBiomes
vonHUD
Yet Another Equipment Collection Revived
Yet Another Legendary Mech
Yet Another Mechlab
Yet Another Special Variant
Yet Another Weapon - Complete Edition
Zero Slot Cantina Traits - better cheaper faster
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>>741525729
>muh realism
They have body armor thick enough to tank any missile or projectile for hours of sustained fire, cooling immune to outside heat sources and electronics are completely EMP-proof
There, all the "problems" of slow mechs fixed
>but that's not heckin realistic
Neither are anime mechs, so what's the issue
But I agree that mechwarrior sucks as a representation of slow mechs. My personal opinion is that AC6 gets away with low gameplay complexity because of it's high pace gameplay, and the reverse is also true - mechwarrior should compensate with high mechanical complexity for it's slow gameplay pace. Don't confuse this with customisation or mechbuilding, I'm talking purely about in-mission gameplay. Fire groups, energy and heat management, team coordination, ballistics, critical system damage, all of that should be amplified to 11 from the current 2-3 in mechwarrior for it to justify the "tank on legs" pace
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>>741526164
>vonBiomes
they added a tranny flag, avoid
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>>741526179
I am all for more complexity but in no way should it be low in AC6.
It should require even higher APM and constant decision-making to control a faster mech.
I want the skill ceiling to be up in the stratosphere. There should be a visible difference between a beginner and an expert player.
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>>741526164
Good list. Last time I ran von biomes performance was an issue and enemy mechs would get stuck in terrain, you notice any of this in your play through?
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>>741526037
we need a gigh grade autist with grok level ai tools to patch the windows releases of mech 2 with widescreen, bonus for hom hating the faggots at vogons forums like dosfreak the tranny admin who hates abandonware and that shoot irl trannyfaggot leilellol.
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>>741526731
I hate lgbt too but take meds bruh
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>>741526872
Nah, those fags drove the guy who managed to emulate powervr because he was using elon's ai at company level to analyze everything, worst of all is that it worked better than the dead powervr project from a decade ago.

Also it isnt the first time vogons oldfags were faggots over emulating old stuff not on their terms, they got a hateboner over battezone and idtech community because of muh abandonware is le bad, and pirating a game so the community survives for years and maintaining the game with up to date shit is also le bad.
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>>741527417
By the way, Powervr mech2 was the best port of the 3d accelerated bunch because it had shit not even the 3dfx release, ati or pentium had like widescreen support and non fucked vsync.
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>>741523757
Did ttai3 get fixed yet? I tried running it but it just made all mechs stand still and I had to go back to ttai2
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>>741527542
someone is working on new powervr sgl wrapper, hopefully it can run mech2 sooner, yeah powervr ver were awesome if you got old pc and matrox card laying around
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>>741526164
>Yet Another
Yep, it's shit.
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>>741527887
Hating YAML console gaylord?
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>>741528115
consoles are cool grandpa
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>>741526610
>von biomes
Yeah I had a bunch of issues with weird spawns of buildings and enemies. I took it off my mod list and haven't missed it.
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>>741502207
this the one where you play Clanners?
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>>741528221
garbage ass console player filtered.
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>>741528342
Rude
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>>741527563
Wasn't a problem on my machine. Haven't played a lot of the coyotes missions or some of the later DLCs yet; maybe that's the issue? Iirc TTai2 doesnt work with DLC 7.
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>>741528316
no, that is 5: clans
mercs is the og ue4 release that is almost 10 years old by now
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>>741527861
yeah i hope it comes out soon
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Anyone know how to resolve this? Comes up the moment I try to start a mission for a new campaign.

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>>741531124
Turn off all your mods.
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>>741523564
Fuck you Clanigger
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>look up footage of fully modded MW5
>it has light mechs wildly firing machine guns at nothing from several hundred meters away
Unironically worse than vanilla.
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>>741532030
They do that in vanilla too. Especially those clanners in the Pumas with like 10 mgs.
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>>741532347
I haven't seen it in over 100 hours but I'm a few updates behind.
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>>741514257
Ok go to /tg/ then dumbfuck
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>>741532649
he is probably here because /btg/ called him a faggot too.
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>>741504557
The AI is so bad that fighting enemies is just like fighting dumb fucking retards who aggressively walk in a straight line at you holding LMB. Your allies don't do this and instead stare at you as they get shot. The AI is catastrophically bad.

Also they went from shit pre-made levels at launch to real fucking jarring map pieces randomly generated and connected together. Maps are so low quality that you'd think they were OpenXcom modders.
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>>741502207
Battletech is the only good modern MechWarrior game. Everything else is just junk that barely works.
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>>741533668
>junk that barely works.
That describes HBS Battletech too.
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>>741533668
i wish that dumb troon hadn't ruined roguetech
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>>741533752
There are different levels of junk, and Battletech is your typical indie/AA game, nothing out of the ordinary. Mechwarrior 5 is total junk that needs mods just to have the most basic features and it's unplayable for anyone other than the most die-hard fans.
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>>741533878
What happened? I haven't played Roguetech yet.
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>>741505467
you can whine, pout, and stamp your feet all you want, but it's true.
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>>741533887
I think you're unfamiliar with just how scuffed Battletech is at a technical level.
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>>741533941
it was the most complete overhaul with the most parts, mechs, first to have vehicles, battle armor and shit but they kept messing with the balance until its barely possible to hit anything when starting a new game, making it very unfun. i mean like 2hrs to beat your first half skull missions. i switched to bta and its much more fun and seems to be caught up with a lot of stuff that only rt had for a while
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>>741531124
mods mostly havent been updated yet. they break every time a new dlc comes out
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>>741525729
by your logic, tanks shouldn't work either
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>>741533942
Sounds like you forgot about the studio that revived Mechwarrior 4 a few years before Mechwarrior 5 got cashed in on. It's okay that you're ignorant, anon.
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>>741534291
Guess what has been phasing out due to recent tactics?
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>>741534291
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>>741534370
uhhhhhhhh plate armor cavalry
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>>741504557
it's not "bad" its mostly just a very shallow gameplay from an action perspective. the game is 70% robo walking simulator, 30% shoot it until it dies against very simple AI. they've tried to make things more interesting with quest lines and handcrafted missions, but the core gameplay won't ever change
most of the fun (for me) comes from tinkering with the mechs in the lab and salvaging equipment after a mission. if youre a lore nerd MW5 is honestly top-notch, too

that being said, the game does have serious issues. the AI for friendlies and hostiles is actually, truly, atrocious. worst AI i've ever interacted with in a "modern" title. you can't even micromanage them effectively; there's no top-down map view to give orders, and they can only do one thing at a time (ex: guard a location OR focus on a single target, but cant do both). also, the game suffers from serious VRAM leaks and crashes even with mods. modders have done more to fix and advance the game than PGI has, to the point where they straight up use work and assets from modders in successive dlcs.

i love the game though. mechwarrior is an old pair of slippers to me - should probably just let it go, but the warmth and familiarity keeps me in
t. have several thousand hours on console and PC
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>>741531561
>>741534161
Well I picked a shitty time to try out mods then. Fuck it. I'll come back to it in a couple months I guess
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>>741515134
You're not wrong. I think it's a combination of proportions, greebling, and muddying the silhouettes. The nu-designs tend to be very overdesigned and lanky instead of simple and blocky like they used to be. MechAssault had the best game representation of 'mechs and it hasn't been matched since. They shaved off the goofiness while keeping the iconic features of each design. The proportions of a Mad Cat's arms (pic related) is a good example.
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>>741515134
Wasn't that the fault of Harmony Gold's bullshit in the first place?
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>>741505258
>Conflaits any mods with cheats
You could have just lead with "I'm a huge fucking retard" and saved us some time.
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>>741536676
Nearly all the big overhauls are basically cheats because the AI can't use even a quarter of the shit you can.
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>>741534730
Yeah its a shame it was picked up by pig, a lot of wasted potential. Clearly their strategy was to drip feed basic features, work on the game for 2 weeks a year and then try and siphon as much cash out of fans. Luckily, mods fix most of the flaws, but since they can't even bothered maintaining some form of version compatibility, it takes 6 months between patches until mods are stable again.
At the same time, its clearly going to be this or nothing, and I doubt we will have any new mechwarrior games since their profit margins are only 2 million dollars instead of eleventy million dollars
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>>741535445
you can emulate mech assault 2 on xemu for like a year now
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Why don't they use cables to trip the walkers?



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