So this is what was all the rage 28 years ago, I can see why they liked it so much then.
>>741523906>>741525520Games don't age, you do.OoT benefits from not having a bunch of retarded nonsense tricking players into thinking it is content (aka shrines and korok seeds)
>>741525621don't forget about all of the riveting sidequests involving bringing a NPC x quantity of y item
>>741523906lemme give you an advice Z targeting and walking back is the fastest easiest method of travel on foot. You are welcome. I dont know why but it is. If you can learn the bomb slide glitch that too but thats way more difficult to do.
>>741523906>>741525520i've never played OOT but that looks awesome
>>741525621this15 fps is very modern
>>741525776>If you can learn the bomb slide glitch that too but thats way more difficult to do.I looked it up and its really not that difficult huh. Cool.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipwZw6psmsk
>>741525879>doesn't know what framerate(s) ocarina of time runs at>posts reddit frogsmartest frogposter
>16:9No it wasn't
>>741525520They will drink it and claim they love the chalkiness
I like OOT but it's a pretty ugly game sometimes, especially in Hyrule field. It's amazing how much better they were able to make MM look
>>741525520>a milkSaar I am brahmin saar
>troonlennials thought this was the coolest shit everLMAO
>>741523906At the time:>MOM! Look, I CAN GO ANYWHERE *shits pants* I CAN CLIMB THAT MOUNTAIN!!!Now:>There's 2 villages, a lake, a river and mountain... I can go to those places but I can't interact with any of them until later in the game... Time to play more Skyrim. See that mountain? I can climb it.
>>741526841GO TO THE BATHROOM
>>741526901n--naa
>>741526937GOTO THE BATHROOM NOW I CAN SMELL YOU
>>741526987nuh yeh
>>741523906>>741525520>>741525879Frogniggers and cheap obvious bait threads should be banned.
>>741526313Please. Compare OoT to other very early 3d games. It is far from ugly. It had a good color palette, environmental effects (fog, little light bugs, rain, little lighting tricks), textures weren't amazing but they were detailed. Bosses could be quite large or visually impressive for the time. Some locations stood out very strongly.
>>741527083Your observation skills are giving even more meaning to what I said
>>741525520>aged like a milkNah, that would be BOTW.
>>741523906 >>741525520
>>741523906I can accept the textures and adjust to the frame rate. But Hyrule Field is way too big for how little it has in it.Though there are way worse games.
>>741525879>15 fps is very modernThe Switch 2 runs games at a cinematic 20fps, so that's not far off.
>>741527350top looks better>>741527235boomers will deadass look you in the eyes and say this hasn't aged :skull:
>>741527350>>741527235*blocks oot path*
>>741527625Bro, you're defending shit that looks like a Dreamcast game lmao.
>>741527235I am. There were plenty of ugly early 3D games, but there are also games that look better than OOT released the same year or earlier>Crash Bandicoot 1 - 3>Spyro>Banjo Kazooie>Sonic Adventure>Mega Man LegendsYou can argue scope differences as much as you want but the simple fact is that OOT can be pretty fucking ugly. It has some great looking scenes too like the final boss, but god damn are those pre-rendered backgrounds ugly as fuck. They could have done better, and did, in Majora's Mask
>>741527805bro your LITERALLY defending an almost 30 year old game you fucking fossil
>>741527829Half-Life is not only better than all of those games you listed but it also looks even worse than all of them graphically.
>>741527805>you're defending shit that looks like a Dreamcast gamefuck you, Dreamcast games has much better textures than Slop of the Wild
>>741528028Wrong. Crash Bandicoot 2 is better than Half Life
>>741527350The saddest part is that BOTW looked like a 15 year old game from the moment it released.
Surface tension is a better level than any other release in 1998 tho
>>741528097>>741527350hold the fuck up, these games are over 20 years apart. Why the fuck does the Dreamcast game from a quarter of a century ago have textures of almost the same resolution? Why is the draw distance only slightly bigger on the modern game? Why is the lighting and coloring much, MUCH worse now?
They will most definitely fix the Navi problem. For those that are too dense to know I am talking about the "Hey! Listen!" shit that she says constantly. Perfect game my ass.
>>741528378This is emulated.
>>741523906also, it was basically the best game ever made. most well rounded best in all categories, tons of features, long ass story, tons of gameplay elements, limited only by the nintendo 64 hardware
>>741527350I hate how washed out hyrule in BOTW looks. Why did they make everything look desaturated and milky white?
>>741528097I’m not a graphics snob but it is shocking how bad some texture work is recent games. Elden Ring and Metaphor:R have some parts that look really awful despite having decent art direction
>>741528487>This is emulatedEmulation doesn't alter the content of the game, you fucking retard.
>>741528491PBR and ACES
>>741528534The textures are low-res and filtered but you are acting like they are high-res.
>>741528491>Why did they make everything look desaturated and milky white?That's pretty much every modern game now. It's the new brown & bloom; foggy & faded.
>>741528542idk what the second acronym means
>>741525520>a milkhow brown is /v/ these days that a retarded ESL-ism doesn't catch more flak?
>>741527350>>741528654At some point like 10 years ago, devs found out that colored lighting and fog could be combined into an ugly blurry haze effect slapped across the entire screen. I guess it helps performance because they obviously don't do it for aesthetic choice.
>>741528892Bottom looks better>>741528780nobody cares
>>741523906i hated it, it caused me to write off zelda forever which caused me to miss out on majora's mask and wind waker and now i just cbf to give a shit about smellda anymore especially after i gave it one last 2nd chance with minish cap and it was SHIT
I recently started up LttP and ship of harkinian and just lost interest in both in rather short order. OoT I think the tutorial segment dragged a little long and I tried to explore further sooner than I was really able (beat the boss then went through the lost woods trying to figure out what I could do in there and same with the section on the other side of it). LttP the cardinal direction attacks just feel kinda bad and charging up sweeps isn't much better.
>>741528940check out the gotten-to ESL
>>741526313>It's amazing how much better they were able to make MM lookMM required the memory expansion hardware addon. The limitations of OOT were mostly owed to literally having 4MB of RAM to work with while MM had twice that
>>741528489the gameplay sucked ass, which is the ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IN A VIDEOGAME, PERIOD.
>>741523906Yes I'm currently watching Henya play this game too
>>741527235Oot looks like that image of yours though, it's willful ignorance to say otherwise.
>>741528657some shit for color grading.
>>741525520I actually listened to the soundtrack at work while the music and torch sound effects was popping into my head after 28 years. Man did they pour a lot of work into that game. The soundtrack the sound effects and sound design was top fucking notch. Even the little grottos had immense atmosphere. That’s how you know you designed a great game, when it persists in your memory years afterhttps://youtu.be/ZvhA6_S0aTE?is=ZsKJSgKt7GsO9mhT
>>741530009some of the best sound design of the 5th gen, hands down
>>741528210>BOTW is capable of running on the GamecubeSource? Why hasn't someone tried porting this?>>741528378>Dreamcast is capable of rendering at 1080pDo you know how I can turn on HD mode on my Dreamcast?
>>741530009I love the original Fire Temple music, it's the only thing that makes the Temple bareable.
>every single top-selling Zelda game has been massively critically panned, including OOT, BOTW and TOTKHow is Nintendo going to keep this franchise alive? No other series in gaming history has had such a steep fall from grace besides maybe Pokemon.
>>741530264they just keep making games and people keep buying them? neither zelda nor pokemon are hurting for sales despite mostly failing to evolve as games
>>741528491It's an intentional aesthetic choice, and not some kind of weakness in their graphical engine.The beach village on sunny days has very high visibility.
>>741530247>bearablePeople found the Fire Temple difficult/annoying? I thought it was a pretty good dungeon. Even has entirely optional areas.
>>741530247The random chanting was great, too bad they had to take it out. It really fit for some reason and I always wondered who was singing.It’s weird revisiting OOT. It’s like it’s still stuck in that moment of time in the late 90s. We’re just revisiting a world that continues to exist without us.
>>741530673It's boring. Most of the dungeon is finding keys in the same jail cell with a Goron 7 times.
>>741525926>multipass :O
>>741530673Forest temple in TP does the concept better.
>>741527829Ocarina of Time looked pretty incredible when it came out, the sheer scope of the world completely mogged most of the games available from that era. There were some bad pre-rendered backgrounds, but they weren't as noticeable with the shitty CRTs from the 90s. And sure, PS1 games had better textures, but the character models and basically everything else was better in the N64.Out of the games you listed, only Sonic Adventure clearly looks better, and that's only because it was on a then next gen console. From a design standpoint, it was embarrassingly bad compared to what the Dreamcast was capable of.
>>741531046Let’s not forget it was the only game at the time where your character grew up. Am I remembering this right? Doesn’t link sweat in the game as well?
>played oot on launch>had fun>played oot master quest when I preordered WW>had fun>played oot 3d on launch on my hacked 3DS>had fun>will probably pick up the new OoT remake>will probably have funCan someone help me? What did I do wrong?
>totkfags want OoT to be like thishttps://youtu.be/jGzGAEECN6E?is=iupz9pMAxHUR4-Rq
>>741531046>ootfag wants you to believe that only sonic adventure was better looking than oot in 1998(raughs)
>>741531326A majority of Westerners unironically have no idea about the arcade arms race that went on in the 80s and 90s.
>>741531326Are you retarded or simply ESL?
>>741530193>Retard kun thinks that a game being unoptimized means it looks better
>>741530193The fact that BOTW runs at a higher resolution and STILL has worse textures isn't the own you think it is.
>>741528780everyone is tired of saying ESL every time someone makes a typo. people doing this shit used to be called "grammar nazis" and they were rightfully seen as cringe redditors
>>741531324Nobody wants any game to be like your hipster video, fucking shill. It doesn't even make any sense to mention Totk while showing off the most hamfisted movie slop.
>>741525520Fpbp
>>741525621>content I don't means it's tricking me Sounds like you have schizophrenia.
>game is about growing up >ootfags refuse to grow up if Nintendo knew this would happen would they still make the game the same way?
>>741532707split it into two releases, that will shut them up
>>741532216Native speakers can tell the difference between a typo and incorrect grammar. That was the latter.
>>741532216>>741532776it's not even about "incorrect grammar." it's about weird unnatural language that is so obviously not accidental but totally fucking clueless and retarded.
>>741523906I tried giving Oot the benefit of the doubt and played up until adult Link, but the gameplay is just so dull and boring. Only thing I liked was the music and girls. Seriously, how do 30+ y/o tendies play this crap without falling asleep? It must be autism.
>ESL
Gonna be so fun watching OOT get skewered alive and every troonlennial to cry rivers of tears when the remake releases
>>741533301as a millenial who absolutely HATED oot when it came out, i will not be crying, i will be laughing with immense joy that this shitpile dogshit niggershit niggerpile faggot fuck piece of shit dogshit trash game finally gets its comeuppance
>>741533096Nostalgia.If Ocarina of Time had its first release in 2026 its scores wouldn't higher than 6 or 7. Maybe 8 if i'm being generous.Ocarina of Time fags will disregard the above point as "wowww of course a 1998 video game is bad" when there are in fact good 1998 video games.Said 1998 video games would still be good even if it were released today. Their modus operandis is "if oot isn't good then nothing that came before or at the same time as oot is"
>>741528534Stupid fuck
>>741528892You don't believe the top actually looks better do you?
>>741534194This is /v/, of course contrarian retards will pretend it's "soulful" or some inane shit like that.
>>741525520
>>741532081So the Dreamcast supports native 1080p, right? Without emulation?
>>741533913>OOT was critically panned upon release and is still remembered as a bad video game by countless peopleHow did you rewrite history and how can I accomplish this towards other games that I hate? Is FF7 also considered to be a terrible game?
>741525520>frognigger is retardedEvery time.
>>741533301>>741533901When did this game get such a massive shift in its reputation? And why are "people" so excited for a remake of what is essentially the Nintendo-branded Superman 64?
>>741534905There was never any shift. It's always been seen as a stinker. Just look at the sales numbers. They're just making a remake to cater to the extremely tiny niche fanbase. Presumably it has a tiny budget.
>>741534834Would Mozart songs be called bad if it were released today?Would Van Gogh artworks be considered bad if it were released today?Would Petra be considered bad if it were build today?How come the greatest game of all time isn't the greatest game of all time when it's released in 2026?
So, uh. How about Twilight Princess?
>>741523906Kula World shits all over OOT
>>741534898Ita cool that you typed out the post number you replied too. Actually btfo him doing that
>>741535840>how do I used delete key
>>741535654Severely flawed, like the other Zelda games on the GameCube and Wii.>horrible pacing, twilight areas and tears of light are shameless low quality padding>visually impressive, but pathetically easy boss fights>pretentious grimdark and unsatisfying story>Snowpeak ruins is great, but other dungeons are either mid or outright bad >most dungeon items are basically pointless outside of the place they're foundLet's be real here, people pretend it's better than it actually was either because of nostalgia or because they were too focused on Midna's fat ass to notice what was going on.
>>741535784BASED Kula World enjoyer
>>741535478I replayed OoT recently. It's still top tier. I was pretty surprised because I'm normally very skeptical that things will hold up.
>>741525520>>741525621trvke>>741526313This is wrong>>741527235this. It's very well done, it's just not the best game ever. It clearly aged a ton but it clearly was good for the time and still has a lot of good aspects
>>741536571It's my favorite zelda, it's both fun and aesthetic.. but then again i dont need a reason that satisfies your autistic ass for that to be the case
>>741534834final fag 7 is basically as dogshit as ocarina of shit, yeah, and just as overhyped and nostalgia goggled as well
>>741535064sadly i'm included in its sales numbers since i bought it on launch because there was no way i could know it was a pile of shit ahead of time, thing are completely different now, it's easy to steer clear or massive dogshitpiles now
>>741536943That's fine anon. I'm not saying the game has zero positives qualities or isn't enjoyable to at least some degree, but it could have done a lot better if those issues were addressed.
>>741536943>outlines cogent criticisms>"your autistic ass" like your lashing out response isn't a closer fitI'm gonna preempt your obvious retort by telling you that I'm the guy he replied to. Fuck off, retard.
>>741536854To be fair Master Quest is the ONLY part of ANY zelda game with genuinely hard dungeons. And even then it's still kind of bullshit since it clearly assumes you've done a playthrough. Also it kind of plays a like an unofficial mod at some points>Playing the song of time over and over to summon invisible blocks you can stand on>Cows stuck in the walls all over jabu-jabu that function as shootable dungeon progression switches>repeated impossible gold skulltulas that demand you come back later once you have an item you can't get right now
>>741537178seems i struck a nerve, autist-kun. Sonic the hedgehog is three clicks away or less, faggot.
a more subtle approach next time may be more successful
>>741536571Holy retard.
that is not more subtle
>>741537167That's so embarrassing anon. Good on you for recognizing the error of your ways, I'm sure you dropped the game about 30 minutes in, too.
>>741537175and another game that could be better if issues are addressed is fucking Ocarina of fucking time
>>741537215super final ultra postgame oracle of seasons and ages had a pretty tricky final dungeon desu
>>741533913>Said 1998 video games would still be good even if it were released today.I need recs, drop the names already man
This thread has a high number of schizos
>>741537656if you got a PS5 then play Fable
>>741533913brownoid revisionism
>>741523906Ocarina was played by a lot of kids in my town but the "REVOLUTIONARY" game label didn't exist back then. That was either Chrono Trigger, Super Mario 64, Final Fantasy VII or Resident Evil 2 the games that blowed up our minds.Ocarina was eventually recognized as really important for 3-D Action games, but on release? Nah. Neither was Majora's Mask.
>>741523906It's usually pretty easy to say what games inspired what but I can't think of a single OoT-inspired game. Even original Zelda was far more influential.
>>741537883nice english
>>741528097God, I love Dreamcast/PS2 aesthetic so much. Emulation in 4K is peak.
>>741528534nice double digit IQ
>>741533913So tell us 15 games from the last 20 years with better dungeons than ALTTP or Oot, we're waiting.
>>741538098Cope
>>741538567seethe
>>741538430Autistic and arbitrary argument since what a dungeon even is only makes sense within the game's design but here you go, it would be even easier if we counted older games.Resident Evil 2DarksidersOkamiBatman: Arkham AsylumStar Wars Jedi: Fallen OrderDark SoulsBloodborneElden RingCrossCodeTunicHollow KnightPersona 5 RoyalBaldur’s Gate 3Death's DoorThe Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
>>741538818like 3 of those could even be considered good games
>>741539403>tendgroid doesn't play videogamesmany such cases
>>741539432I've played 9 of the games you listed sister
Am I the only who remember kids hating it seeing it on commercials or generally in media, thinking it was gay? I also was one of those kids, thinking it looked like a little boy game. Then everyone after playing it couldn't stop playing.
>>741539553what year did you come out?
>>741537619The difference is that Ocarina of Time was actually impressive for fifth gen standards. It can be improved because technology simply improved, not that it was fundamentally flawed in any way. You can go back and add basic shit like a free camera, make everything bigger, combat more complex, and so on. The problem with latter games is that they're plagued with issues that didn't need to exist for the time they were made. For Twilight Princess, Aonuma didn't want to make the game and it shows. He threw some good ideas around and then half-assed them without truly pushing those concepts to their limits or truly incorporating them to the overall world. Just look at items like the dominion rod or the spinner. Even the wolf form doesn't really get anything new as the game progresses, despite being the only transformation available.Fix those issues and Twilight Princess had the potential to leave as much of an impact as Ocarina originally did. The same goes for Wind Waker, if it was actually finished.
>>741523906Windows Vista
>>741540073No difference
>>741538430ocarina of shit had shit dungeons, literally any and all games have better dungeons than it
>OOT is now widely regarded as one of the worst Zelda games of all time and sold extremely poorly
>>741526043PAL version runs at 15fps.
>>741535957Such a rebel
>>741538818>resident evil 2>dungeons
>>741530009Why did the grotto's have beehives that you couldn't interact with?
>>741546540They were definitely planning on something like how MM had actual bees, though you can use the boomerang to break them if I recall.
>>741546540Boomerang, Bomb(chu), hookshot work.
>>741546540hookshots turn them into 20 rupees, you should instead ask yourself why does grass drop all your items and rupees mean jack and shit
Hows master quest?
>>741523906Massive troll thread, laughing how people are hating on OOT.It will forever have the best finale of all the Zelda games. Makeup Zelda where you literally have to save the princess from the castle, big bad villain playing a fucking organ as you come face to face. Blood on the villain as you stab the fuck out of him. The GTFO while you fight elite enemies. The it's not even my 1st form. The loss of the master sword in the last battle with the music with the princess doing girly gasps (not happening in this day and age faggots). The brutal slaying of the ganon.What is Zelda now? Herp derp weird goo fantasy shit and ambigious nonviolent boss battle with kid friendly shit.Contrarians should rope themselves, being a contrarian is a dead meme.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VlrzZg1l-w
>>741546796There are other aspects of it being kino too like the dragonball ki ball tennis match, but not going to write the rest out.
>>741531404My country didn't have many arcade systems anyway.
>>741528892>added more foliage to a forest>crisper textures>debatable lights for guidance>you can finally recognise the fallen tree you walk on as a treeidk anon, but maybe you're nostalgic? i've seen worse remakes. for me personally, it's too much foliage, like they wanted to add as much as possible. the rest looks good imo
>>741546796>all this tertiary faggot shityeah, we get it, it's a tertiary faggot's favorite zelda, because tertiary faggots don't even register gameplay in their tertiary faggot smoothbrains, which is WHY it's a shit game
>>741547767You people are just as bad as the people that came to the site spamming mfw and tfw with sad pepe reaction images.
>>741546754It exists
>>741546796ah yes, the finale of falling through a void and Zelda playing le ocarina, herp derp split timeline enjoy fucking Wind Waker, Ocarina of Time memberberries in Microsoft paint flatland
>>741548719I always thought Wind Waker looked gay as a kid. And yes memberberries because things aren't as gay like what you play now. Herp derp, epicerino fart clouds being sprayed and ejaculated by nuganon with girl boss zelda leading the charge.I haven't played nintendo games after n64, especially so when they marketed themselves as the kids games console.
>>741538203>Tendie thinks emulation increases texture sizeLmao
>>741547302Maybe the point is that the bottom image is how the game looks in general, not just when it's MEANT to be foggy.
>>741543539It's actually 18fps
>>741552378To be fair, all games ran at shit framerates in Bongland because we made our CRTs retarded. As a joke.
>>741552573It is not the fault of CRTs or Anglos, Europe(and most of the world) uses 50hz electricity while Japan and America do not, so Japanese and American products have compatibility issues there.
>>741525520>ootfags will look at you dead in the eyes and say their game hasn't aged like a milkwhy was this truth nuke deleted?
>>741553603OoTfags don't like the truth
>>741555527lollmao
>>741525621>water temple has entered chat
>>741523906To be fair if you look at the earlier maps in the Gigaleak this field originally had a lot more going on, N64s memory was obviously unable to handle it
>>741537656Castlevania: Symphony of the Night(1997), F-Zero X, Street Fighter Alpha 3, The King of Fighters '98, Suikoden 2, Mario Party>>741540073>The difference is that Ocarina of Time was actually impressive for fifth gen standards. It can be improved because technology simply improved, not that it was fundamentally flawed in any way.Besides graphical changes, you should check how many improvements were made between F-Zero X and F-Zero GX. FZX is still a fluid and honest video game.
>>741527293The funny thing is he didn't actually accuse you of being a pathetic samefaggot.But a hit dog hollers I suppose...
>>741534194>>741534290>>741547302https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJNK4VKeoBM
>>741538818>Okami>Darksiders>Persona 5>Elden Ring>Baldur's Gate 3Oh it's just a boring contrarian. How sad. I was looking forward to some recs.
>>741557012Blown. The. Fuck. Out.
>>741536943Weird weepy feminine reply to a pretty neutral post. But I guess Twilight Princess kiddies were the same type to have Naruto posters up on their wall and listen to Linkin Park.
>>741527350BOTW is the ugliest game in the series, what an absolute fucking eye sore, I sincerely hate it. One of the ugliest games ever
>>741530009People say this shit about their favorite games all the time. Out of context OoTs soundtrack is ass. You only like it because it's in OoT. Any mediocre sound designer could have randomly thrown their music in there and you'd be here claiming it was the pinnacle of game music. OoTs soundtrack is nothing special.
>>741523906This game is filled with tier 1 puzzles that a toddler can get right, there is no challenge whatsoever even until the spirit dungeon.
>>741557602>a game so ugly a billion games copied botw artstyle not oot
>>741530009https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPn4kCTnJ-0>*blocks oot path* (again)
>>741558617I agree, they should've put in a full orchestra recordings on flac files.
>>741523906>So this is what was all the rage 28 years agoJust for N64babies. Anyone who actually played video games was bored by it.
Zoomlets and alphoids could never possibly understand. The move from 2d to 3d was the biggest jump in gaming technology. The closest thing they have to innovation like that are maybe waggle controls and VR headsets.
>>741528210>BOTW looked like a 15 year old game from the moment it released.So true, the art direction i think was good but the graphics itself was fucking atrocious, playing on pc with mods it's like playing the true version of that game.
