An economic collapse is just around the corner; when it happens, you won’t even be able to afford food, let alone waste money on video games.So what will happen to Steam?Will it leave the US?
>>741551539>you won’t even be able to afford foodIn that case you have bigger things to worry about.
>>741551539There ain’t gonna be any better countries for Steam to be in, in that case.
You fags have been screeching about a recession since 2020.
maybe i'll finally start making progress on my backlog
>>741551539America will be fine. The rest of the world will suffer the most and they'll starve themselves to death as Americans look down from their opulence and laugh.
Valve brings in billions per year and has <500 employees. They will be fine.
An alien invasion is just around the corner; when it happens, you won’t have time to eat food, let alone waste time on video games. Your sole purpose will be to serve as a sex slave.
>>741551539I can buy games that provide me with solid double digit hours of enjoyment for less than a single meal from a fast food place. Steam, and gaming in general thanks to a massive backlog of abandonware and pirateable games, will be fine. The only thing that could be in trouble are multi-million dollar budget games, which is honestly an improvement overall. And maybe the casual gaming audience, but they'll find their own niche if they survive.
>>741551719>recessionI believe that this time it will be more than just a ‘recession’; it will be a complete and utter collapse.Because US Treasury bonds are on their last legs.For the first time ever, the amount of gold held in reserve by banks around the world has exceeded that of US Treasury bonds.The 2008 financial crisis will seem as simple and carefree as a spring day out.Countless people will starve to death.The most compelling evidence is that the gaming industry’s major collapse has already begun.Since people don’t have enough money to put food on the table, they naturally won’t be spending money on games.
>>741551539I'm good.
>>741551539If I can't afford food then I don't care what happens to Steam. I don't need Steam to stay alive, but I do need food.Also where would Valve go if not the US? Economic collapse or not, USA is one of the countries that is going to be least affected by it in a real material sense. USA is an energy exporter and also a food exporter if I'm not wrong. No matter how bad things get, food and energy security are going to be the things that will make or break everything and US is not doing worse than most when it comes to that.
>>741552408you'll have no internet. Valve will let you play your games offline for 30 days then you need to log into Steam. if you cant then your games are hard locked down
>>741552621Not really. Many games have no DRM like Zomboid. You can just launch the .exe
>>741552001I wonder why the decided to save banks back in 08, should've left the system burn, we would all be much better by now early 20 years later
>>741552001Sounds boring. I would rather have China launch an attack on Taiwan triggering World War 3
>>741551539all their revenue is basically free money and they have barely any overheadan economic crash would only slightly affect their profitability, which is hardly a big deal. Maybe Gabe would have to buy a hundred million dollar yacht instead of a 300 million dollar yacht next time. So what?
>>741551539If economic collapse happens video games will be the least of our worriesUntil then, I don't give a fuck
Food is super cheap in the west - produced by a gigantic farming industry. Why do you think people wont be able to afford food anymore?
Jannies, this is a pol thread. Delete it and ban the OP.
>>741552518>USA is one of the countries that is going to be least affected by it in a real material sense. USA is an energy exporter and also a food exporter if I'm not wrong. No matter how bad things get, food and energy security are going to be the things that will make or break everything and US is not doing worse than most when it comes to that.Technically speaking, the United States would end up in a state similar to that of the Soviet Union in its final days.The Soviet Union had oil, minerals, land and food.Yet the ordinary people were still living in abject poverty due to the collapse of the national economy.There might not be a major famine, but life would still be extremely hard.
>>741552910>I wonder why the decided to save banks back in 08Electoral politics.If Obama did nothing, it would spell the end of the Democratic Party.So he chose to postpone the crisis.That way, the responsibility would not lie with the Democratic Party.
>>741553080For the west in particular, what gets me especially is how food from New Zealand is significantly more expensive in its own country and generally of lesser quality than what's exported overseas.
>>741551539Hopefully Valve will get nuked by the Wolfire lawsuit
>>741551539Steam didn't die in 2008 or when they got forced to allow refunds
>>741553290American politics was always about kicking the can down the road.I'm going to commit suicide if we ever enter apocalyptic living conditions. My autistic fat ass is NOT going to thrive during that. I barely thrive right now.
steam probably has a stockpile of cash to coast with, they arent forced to give every spare penny to stockholders like other companies
Got what you voted for award
>>741551539I guess I'll continue to buy five dollar games every sale
>>741553640>steam probably has a stockpile of cash to coast withgaybn will buy up large tracts of land in the US at rock-bottom prices when the economy collapses.That way, he will become a major landowner in the US.
>>741553191Yeah I'm not disputing that fact, I'm only saying that it will be worse everywhere else where even food security isn't a thing. If your economy collapses and you rely on importing for energy and food, you're just straight up fucked. USA isn't gonna collapse alone.
>>741551539Why would it leave the US? To go to the EU and get taxed and regulated into irrelevance?
>>741553701Still waiting for it personally, I think he got spooked by how ready people are to just not have a dempcracy
Two more weeks.For realsies this time.
>>741553768tim will sue him for that, only he is allowed to buy land
>>741553935>EUNo, Steam is heading to Singapore.
>>741553191If the US federal government collapses due to economic strain and the USD implodes, the US will balkanize and many regions will just band together to print resource-backed currencies. I for one will be ready to pay for my vidya with Texan Oilbux and Louisiana Shrimpesos.
Just 2 more weeks!
>>741554018>shrimpeso We're going to make it.
>>741553985Timi, you should get on with fixing UE5.Not go off planting trees or daydreaming about beating Steam and the like,that sort of nonsense.
>>741553768Dude already settled in NZ anyway.
>>741552001>Countless people will starve to deaththats just the market correcting itself
>>741551539>Trumpy puts in a guy he wants in Fed Res back in May>The plan is basically to blow up the USD so the debt seems miniscule, much like how they did it before in the 1940s>Tells you much in advance that they're gonna slash interest rates so hard that your physical USD and savings are gonna be worthless, giving you time to move your money around to something like real estate or physical assets.Operations continue like usual? Really doubt there's gonna be one for the US, and if the US fails, everyone else does too since they're extremely dependent on the USD.
Guys, US Treasuries are on death row.You should buy gold.
Valve has a vested interest in keeping its own infrastructure even if there is a literal full collapse of the US government. I'm sure several countries would offer citizenship to large e-commerce comapnies in order to pick up the taxes on Steam's sales.
>>741553640what stockpile? they are spending on yachts and mansions on the billions
>>741552001>Countless people will starve to death. That only happens outside the USA. We don't pay for our poors to go to the hospital, but we feed them. Our homeless people eat better than people with houses in the UK.
as if they'd ever extricate themselves from the system2025 showed they won't do shit
>>741553290>Obama>2008What?
>>741551539we must go back to disc drives>bu-silence
>>741554406>You should buy gold.Doesn't that graph mean I SHOULDN'T buy gold, because I'd be buying high instead of buying low?I ain't falling for that shit, I'm not ending up like /biz/
>>741554941Non-American posters don't understand he didn't start until 2009.
>>741553917Imports from China stop. A few years down the road you start decomposing.
>>741551539Steam got that infinite money glitch, and when pressed they could actually take monopolistic actions to kill the competition. I'm more worried of what will happen when big G dies or whomever runs the place nowadays dies/steps downs.
>>741555331You should continue to buy physical gold and hold onto it.This gold is not intended to make you money.It is the only currency you will be able to use to buy food after the great collapse.
>>741551539Spending on instant gratification usually go up during economic downturns.Cigarettes, Gambling, Alcohol, Vidya, Fast Food etc. all tend to do better when the economy is in the shitter.
>>741556782>Cigarettes, Gambling, Alcohol, Vidya, Fast Food etc. all tend to do better when the economy is in the shitterThat is why the streets of Moscow are littered with Russian alcoholics who have frozen to death.hemmm
>private>infinite profits secured>barely any staff
>>741556681Who the fuck is gonna take a bar of gold for food
>>741558665>a bar of goldYou don't have a clue, huh? An OUNCE of gold is like 4 grand right now.
>>741558826And where is this gold?
>>741558826and what value will gold have after an economic collapse where financial institutions no longer exist
>>741558826Fuck off I can't afford that>4 grandSo are you gonna shave off a thin ribbon of gold with a file every time you want to buy food, are you?And nobody's gonna wonder where you're getting it from?
>>741551539Steam is privately owned, so absolutely nothing.
>>741554018The real man's play is to buy as much copper as possible.
>>741551539old games ( 100% of the games i play ) will still work. i am unaffected. bonus points - having the .exes from GoG on your PC - even if the internet collapses i do not care.
>>741551539i can answer that but first tell me how much money are they paying me as a part of the Wolfire v Valve class action suit.
>>741553701People need to stop and think for a moment what the purpose of the Guillotine is. It was created for a very, very specific purpose. The French in particular found it very useful and effective.
>>741559295$69,420.67
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>>741559426im using that to buy a mini-yacht and from there im pirating Gabe's super-yacht.the last words he'll hear will be "you're right it's a service problem"
>>741558665M8, it's literary imposible to starve in modern world unless you're north korea.
>>741559441The risk of precious metals being stolen is not that great.If a bank goes bankrupt, your savings will simply vanish.In that case, you will have no assets left that could be ‘stolen’.
>>741551539Two More Weeks
>>741551719You have been in the biggest self inflicted recession since 2008 when the banking cartel used public tax money to cover their gambling losses without a voteIn a perfect world the banking executives would have been dragged into the street and hung from the nearest tree till dead, then charged with fraud
>>741551539>So what will happen to SteamSteam on Android.
>>741552001Why is Nintendo firing itself when their shit is selling?
>>741558925>So are you gonna shave off a thin ribbon of gold with a file every time you want to buy food, are you?Haha, it’s not that cheap.During an economic collapse, a gold bar won’t buy you much food.Because the US dollar is dead.The US government must settle its imports of fertiliser and seeds in gold or oil.Food will become shockingly expensive.
>>741554770>CIAGlowniggers look like this?
>>741560258>Steam on Androidgood
>>741560342I want one of them
>>741560258That's already a thing if you know what you're doing.
>>741560173the book this is cited from is using the actual meaning of credit not the deranged smoke and mirrors bankers version of credit.
>>741560758Interesting. So banknotes were originally owning a portion of the government debt?
>>741560428He's charging up his glow in the dark capability in the sun.
>>741551539As long as they get a linux based steam OS that can make those old shitter PCs into dedicated steam boxes that can play media and surf the web they'll be okay. Don't have a pc that can run windows and too stupid/not give enough of a fuck to learn how to install linux. Just instal steam os and play games. Windows has already gone all in on AI and Linux is hostile to end users so it's the next step. They will have to create a curated list of games that function perfectly on their pc though and even incentivize steam users to help in doing it. And do something about the AI and cheap shit slop on their service. Outside of that it's basically done. If they have the balls to buy the xbox division from microsoft and turn all xboxes into steam boxes and maintain some console studios they would be set for a long while.
>>741551719Since 2008.
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>>741560173The US government robbed the US citizenry of it's precious metals(gold silver even copper pipesIYKYK) back in the 20's I believe. The fix was in a long time ago.
>>741553191“Economic collapse” is a silly thing to claim will cause global famine anyway. The food is still there, the farmland still produces. There are still people to make it and distribute it. Money is a measurement of resources, not a resource in and of itself. A PERSON can be out of money (if they spend more than they earn), a COUNTRY can be out of money (if it imports more than it exports), the world simply can’t. It doesn’t make sense. It’s like saying you can’t measure girders anymore because you ran out of inches. Money is just a series of numbers that computes contribution vs consumption, we can’t ALL be out of it.
>>741561084Well, they’ll definitely do it again.You will have nothing
>>741551539The closer people are to tragedy, the more they seek escapism. In fact, video games would probably suffer less than many other industries. If you know money is tight, you take better care of your shit, and end up buying less stuff as a result. But video games don't last longer just because you're careful not to break them. So you'll buy less shirts, but just as many video games
>>741560334PCpoors post that shit because Nintendo is the only company left with exclusives so they're mad
>>741560838uhh... well that's describing the KING's debt which is the sovereign but not the government necessarily.for say the American version of this, the "sovereign" of the American system is "we the people" which is a good explanation as to why the trillions of US government debt is owed mostly to the US citizens.mostly though money doesn't make sense intentionally because it's a game invented by freaks to exploit the masses.
>>741560838Even today banknotes essentially represent debt. You know how the federal reserve does “quantitative easing” where they add more money to the money supply, or take it out? Yeah, they don’t do that by printing bills. They do it by choosing the interest rates at which they lend money; lower interest rates means more borrowing, and borrowing money causes the money supply to expand via the magic of banking (I borrow a dollar and put it in my bank account, and the bank can now loan THAT dollar, and one dollar becomes 3, since 3 people have a dollar to their name to spend, even though 2 of them owe it back at some point).All money is just debt with some middlemen
>>741553768State of Gaben and its capital city Teufort.
>>741561221The most serious consequence of an economic collapse is that it would lead to a breakdown in the agricultural supply chain.A large number of small-scale farmers would immediately find themselves unable to afford fertiliser and seeds, whilst rising fuel and electricity prices would prevent them from using agricultural machinery.They would also be unable to pay wages to Mexican workers.With a large number of small-scale farmers going bankrupt, they would have no choice but to sell their land to large capitalists in order to survive.This would ultimately lead to soaring food prices.This is because the capitalists need to recoup their investments by selling grain.When the Soviet Union’s economy collapsed, ordinary people also became extremely impoverished. The people were in a state of utter despair, which ultimately led to the collapse of the Soviet Union.An economic collapse in the United States might not result in a major famine, but many poor people would still starve to death.
>>741551539what will happen your asshole following an elephant cock rape?
>>741561790Poverty requires wealth extraction, as you note. Wealth has to become consolidated, it doesn’t actually go away. But this isn’t a dust-bowl-style bottom up collapse of inputs, it’s a financial system collapse. It STARTS from the fancy investment instruments and bleeds down. The ones most poised to do wealth extraction are hit first in a numbers-only fiasco. Think of the 2008 housing crisis; the impact on the poor was measurable but financial institutions literally collapsed into insolvency. Frankly it was only government bailout that kept the rich from becoming the new poor
>>741561790>An economic collapse in the United States might not result in a major famine, but many poor people would still starve to death.a peculiar definition of famine because in real terms there has rarely if ever been a "famine" that wasn't rooted in the failings of a distibutive/economic system leaving people to die.
>>741551539i dunno man i think we'll have bigger things to worry about by then
>>741551539Apparently Steam and gaming in general grew steadily during the 2008 economic crisis
>>741561790Good news, everyone pantries will finally be cleaned because they've horded fourteen cans of tomato soup for five years.
>>741551539One day there will be economic collapseJust becauseThere's still plenty of oil, food, minerals, living space for everyonebut we will all die for no reasonthis is what they want you to believetwo more weeks
>>741562189Jokes on themI've got 23 cans left of nice vegetable soupI won
>>741551539steam only grows in a recession
>>741551539Well, they'll probably make less money for a while. Unfortunately, they're a private company and a downturn doesn't mean they get liquidated to be slurped up by shareholders. Steam is still steam even if the only thing they sell for half a decade are indie games because the AAA market actually committed suicide.
>>741561930>Frankly it was only government bailout that kept the rich from becoming the new poorthey knew they were getting bailed out from the very start including the sacrificial lamb firms that were offered up for the ceremony of it all. it was not an actual crisis (for them) which is why there was never an actual solution to it.
>>741551539thankfully they are a private company and won't go out of business the moment that their annual growth slows down unlike public companies that are beholden to manchildren
>>741562556they're parasitic middle men. the only way they go out of business is if producers and/or consumers stop allowing them to leech.
‘Too big to fail’ is actually a meme.The banks that the US government bailed out by printing money merely postponed the economic crisis, whilst amplifying the problem tenfold compared to 2008.This time, everyone will be blown to bits.
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>>741562706>stop allowing them to leech.no one is forcing publishers to buy steam's services. Battlenet, Origin, and Uplay all used to be mostly functional storefronts that survived via the nintendo strategy of keeping their IPs locked to it.Unfortunately for Blizzard, EA and Ubisoft shareholders demanded number go up. And thus their storefronts died.
>>741553583>American politics was alwaysNoits every non-monarchistic government, since its basis is that good country in future equals better security for kid that will replace you.Instead of just stealing from treasury and running with whole family.
>"When the sun explodes you will lose all of your steam games."Thank you Tim.
US will collapse if they don't pivot to socialism.
Personal PCs will be outlawed eventually.It will begin with GPUs, and the reason will be "national security" because of AILinus was optimistic saying "datacenter GPUs will need to be replaced, and the used ones will be good for gaming", but I can already imagine how they are going to block normal people from buying them, even if they have to destroy them.
>>741552001>THE COLLAPSE HAS ALREADY BEGUN>MILLIONS WILL DIE>EVERYONE WILL STARVE>"okay, what is your proof or even indicator for this?">THE GAMING INDUSTRY'S MA-
>>741563481>even if they have to destroy them.they are absolutely going to force datacenters to destroy gpus, if they actually resold them it would crater the price for new gpus and the chinese jews will never allow that.
>>741562875>no one is forcing publishers to buy steam's services.but they (Valve) have been using their control of the market to force them to be uncompetitive. which ultimately forces them to "buy steam's services."
>>741563468its already plenty socialistyou literally get gibs for every situation you could be inwhat more do you want ?
>>741563791You can't say you can't resell a physical product. Especially a part.Odds are it'll be like office chairs where they won't list it used online but you have to go to site liquidations or the like to get them.No one is going to just shred stuff where there's money to be made
>>741563896>out of the mouth of someone who doesn't even have basic healthcare
you guys are fucking retardedyou think you can just slot a data center "gpu" in your personal computer ?its like toddlers discussing the finer points of astrophysics
>>741564089>you think you can just slot a data center "gpu" in your personal computer ?you literally can and i don't know why shills are so desperate to pretend you can'tthese are computers, not some alien tech
>>741564514maybe you should ask ai, kek
>>741563791>if they actually resold them it would crater the price for new gpus and the chinese jews will never allow thatNigvidia already said they don't give a fuck about retail anymore, why would they care if the price of retail GPUs crashes when they only really care about selling cutting edge new chips to trillion dollar corporations?
>>741563957that works in a free market scenario with actual competition. Nvidia's position as the only seller on the ai gpu market allows them to demand whatever they want of datacenter owners, they'll just engage in a bit of favor trading and that's that.
>>741563957>You can't say you can't resell a physical product. Especially a part.Of course you can!Just make it "a matter of national security"!what if the datacenter GPUs get into foreign hands and China uses it to run AI against the USA?
>>741551539Triple A will die to no one's particular lament, but gaming itself is solid; you can easily get value for even just 2.00 USD.
>>741551539Valve has an absolutely ridiculous revenue/employee ratio, they could probably continue operating for quite a while even without a huge number of new games being made and sold.
>>741563893Then pull all your games off steam and sell them on your own launcher.
I havent bought a videogame on steam since 2010.
