Am the only one who dislikes how damage is calculated in the game? Going from no armor to faction armor makes you go from zero to hero. Previously I had to play smart and avoid getting hit.Now I can just tank damage from most of the enemies.
dumbass geek
>>741553282Yes, it make you really tanky against basic bitch enemies like wolves and scavengersJust wait until you meet your first minecrawler
It's pretty stupid. There is no sexcuse
a whole bunch of the systems are pretty dated and make little senseit's another one in the pile of flawed masterpieces that get remade with the same flaws for no reason
>>741553401I cleared all the minecrawlers and the queen on first attempt. I can fight 5 orc dogs and 3 orc warriors at the same time.The only think I cant clear are shadowbeasts.
>>741553282because systems in 1 were retarded and they should have used 2 notr as a base
>>741553282The damage calculation in Gothic games is deliberately designated to make that feeling of progression.In the beginning you feel like shit: being oneshotted and barely damaging enemies, then when you hit some threshold the situation reverse, making for a dramatic feeling of progression.Then NOTR ruined it making fishing for criticals the only thing that matters
>>741553789I agree but it's better for the moors to err on the side of faithfulness rather than redesign half the game a second time.
>>741553789>hurr you do no damage unless your crit durrrnotr is even more retarded than G1s systems
>>741553282>Am the only one who dislikes how damage is calculated in the game?it's good for humans at least because all characters play by the same rules. guys with better weapons and armor own you and vice versa. it translates prison pecking order perfectly. monsters and orcs are kinda hit or miss for this system.
>>741553927well yeah for crits they could just use current system, otherwise it's better on all fronts
>>741553962yeah, every melee fight being and RNG shitfest where an NPC might hit you for 5 damage or one shot you is great gamedesign
Magic should use a different calculation, because with this half of spells are DPS spells with the exact same damage/cost ratio but with higher numbers so they can damage higher level enemies.
Do the savegame from GOG version can be detected on steam version? They do share the same path according to pcgaming wiki
>>741554056It should be reworked from scratch, nevermind how hard it is to even approach the damage of a pure str or dex build, it just isn't bloody fun.
Finishing chapter 1, I'm level 10, I think I did all quests, can be admitted on any camp I pick, is it worth it to clear the map (I found out I can already kill bloodhounds and snappers) or do I just move on? Was thinking on trying to cheese the mage in fog's tower with a rain of fire scroll I got but from what I've heard it's shit so it's not gonna work.
>>741553789there isnt a single thing gothic 2 notr did better than 1. the combat is worse. the factions are worse. the controls were made worse (climbing, interacting etc). it's incredibly overrated.
>>741554072Pretty sure it will, the steam version even picked up my pirated save game file lmao
>>741554201Clear it if you want to but you're fine also just joining a camp.
>>741554204controls are same but doesn't require you to press W all the time, straight improvementfactions are worse yeah and armor design but that's all it does worse
>>741554208Ahh thanks for the enlightment my fellow pirate bro
>>741554201enemies will spawn again there so you will have to do it again and againalso you will be overleveled (you probably already are)
>>741554204No man G2 was a straight up improvement from G1 in control scheme, spells, skills and I liked factions more... but NOTR rebalancing made it a mess.
>>741553282That's how most games like these are. Elex would fuck with you, there's an humongous gap where basically equipment makes your character and the moment you get a new armor and strong enough weapon the enemies that used to rape you will feel like tissue paper with absolutely nothing in between.This is a flawed system but to me it works better than the usual level scaling. It feels more rewarding, like my character is actually changing.
>>741554267>controls are same but doesn't require you to press W all the time, straight improvementit's a downgrade all around. in gothic 1 you can hold ctrl and then use side ways movement keys to cycle items you are targeting, and then forward to pick up a specific item. in gothic 2 you will spam ctrl to pic up 10 individual arrows off the ground until you finally target that scroll you wanted in the first place. in gothic 2 you will also randomly sit on chairs when you wanted to pick up an item whereas i gothic 1 ctrl will just target the stool and you can just use movement key to target the item on the table or perhaps the guy behind the table to talk to him. the system was incredibly elegant and they completely gimped it in gothic 2. and the remake repeated the same mistakes.
>>741554310I heard G2 nostalgic edition mod fixed some problems with NOTR balancing
>>741554489ah yeah, I can afford mouse so it's just m1 to pick up items for me
>>741554310notr rebalancing is fine assuming you're familiar with the game, which certainly was the case for players buying an expansion pack back in the day. it is complete garbage for blind plays. I remember having a miserable time with it when I played the gold edition back in the day as first expetience. in my recent replay I got to 186 str on dragonhunter using ore dragon slicer and the last boss died in like 10 hits.
Is playing a mage as much of a pain in the ass as it was in the original?
>>741553282>Going from no armor to faction armor makes you go from zero to hero.>wow I can beat up the trash mobs nowYeah go fight something else lol
>>741553282Balancing is all kinds of whack. Trash mobs (so there are multiple hitting you at once) can kill you in 4 shots with the best armor in the game (enhanced ore armor).
>>741555183No, because you can get a spell 5 minutes into the game rather than wait until chapter 2(?)
how do I max out novice armor? I can see npcs with better armor than baal namib can get me
>>741554308You get a shit load of main quest XP. My all quests game was level 31 or something and my fists only doing fuck all optional quests finished around 26.
>>741555183Early game is great but after like chapter three you need to use stronger runes against enemies and those tend to suck overall. Long casting time, mediocre game and range isn't the best either for AOE spells.
>>741555579did you buy all three upgrades?
>>741554208>game saves into common folder>it found my savesDuh?
>>741555517How much of a wiggle room do you have with builds anyway? Is it like Risen 1 where you can be a gigamage with a maxed out twohander?
>>741555694I mean shoulderpad version of chest piece, google only gives me that I unlock it "later"
I HATE TUNDRA WOLVES SO MUCH IT'S UNREAL
>>741553282you can buy digger clothing from fisk for 300 ores :)
>Patch 1.0.2>Goblins: rock damage modifiershow badly were they nerfed
>>741555873>paying for digger clothing instead of getting it for free from the Free Minebaka
>>741555832Forget about the Sleeper, these assholes are the real threat towards humanity's continued existence.
>>741555906Goblins having ranged attack is retarded in the first place. They should swarm and encircle you without stopping to throw rocks.
Lockpicking is fun as fuckNow that it also gives XP you have no excuse
>>741556008I find it weird given not many enemies seem to be primarily melee but then have a strong ranged attack as well.It's the 100% accuracy lock-on that they have which is stupid - if you're fighting a group up close it's pure chance whether you can dodge in time and not dodge straight into the path of a rock
>>741556004WHY THE FUCK DO THEY JUMP 10 METERS MAN AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH
>>741556075your dodge roll?
>>741555725>Is it like Risen 1 where you can be a gigamage with a maxed out twohander?If you want to max out your skills then you have little wiggle room. For example, if you wanted max dex with lockpicking, alchemy and acrobatics, then you would only be able to max out strength and one-handed weapons just before the sleeper temple. Basically pointless.
>>741556043I don't really get the complaints about it - I got 1 trained level pretty quick and haven't even bothered getting mastery yet.All of them seem relatively easy as long as you're concentrating - I have only encountered one chest so far that I found too difficult. I think it was in Xardas's sunken tower
ok im not playing this, if they are gonna flip flop with nerfs and buffs its one thing, but changed unique items scattered around the map is anothergonna go back to it in a year when its stable no changes
>>741556240what did they change?
>>741556429they fucking moves wolfshredder form the wreck of the ship and replaced it with a shittier bowwhat the fuck
>>741556481moved wolfshredder from the wreck*
>>741556481ah I knew when I got it yesterday it looked kinda unremarkableyeah I'm thinking about waiting out patches myself but I also wanna play gothic 2 and it feels kinda off without playing 1 right before
>>741556612play gothic 1 original with dx 11 and move to g2 notr
>>741556429they did this thing where they nerfed then buffed back mages
>>741556702eh I've played original too many times and remake is shiny new thing
>>741556814yeah but you cant have one normal run, you have to rush it otherwise they constantly change shiti hate modern devs
>finish game>save the world from the evil demon>reward?>get crushed by rocks lmao nerdgrim dark until the very end
>>741556758>buffed back magesMeaningless since most monsters, especially the strong ones, were also buffed.
>>741556913MC becomes a king by the end of his adventures , so it's not that grim.
So which is better str-maxxing or dex-maxxing?
>Message to everyone hating the updatesYou can revert the update on steam if you right Gothic 1 Remake in your game library, click Properties and then go into Game Versions tab.Default public Version is 1.02, publictesting is 1.01 and previous release is 1.0.Once you revert you can play the game without issue while online on steam, but in case the devs with those settings too I recommend booting the game in steam offline mode.
Yeah it's weird. After I got the novice SKIRT, suddenly everything that 2-3 hit me was barely damaging. Fuck kinda logic is that?
HEAR ME, INHABITANTS OF KHORINIS!
New patch has broken the Xardas quest - you can't talk to the Demon after obtaining the golem hearts.Have to rollback to previous patch to proceed.
Did they specifically use the word "digger" to make us think of something else?
>can't keybind 8,9,0 on the hotbar to something else
>>741557783The original german word is "Buddler", Digger is pretty much just a straight translation of that. I guess you could call them miners, but that wouldn't be much better for sounding like another bad word.
>>741557820Controller bindings are worse. Item slots set to the d-pad. You can't move and use a item or different weapon/skill at the same time.
think I'm gonna play g2 nowdid anyone play nostalgic edition? guildless playthrough lets me learn runes? otherwise what faction to join (except mages fuck that)
>kill undead orc easily>zombies hit me for 60% of my hp and take 4 hits to killput a str ring on just for that what the fuck
I guess this is the end, then. I’m so bros, I don’t want it to be over already. I’ve had so much fun so far, I wish I could keep playing.
>>741557983I'm playing it right now and no, it keeps things very close to the original so runes only as a mage.
I remember managing to kill the damn skele mage and its swarm of skeletons under the ruined tower but I was so drunk I don't remember if I could loot anything or got stuck. I can't even remember if I got the cromanin book/quest. Did they even include that in the remake?
>>741558441Does it fix people's complaints about NOTR difficulty?
I'm replaying the game and it just suddenly occurred to me the possibility that Nek didn't get killed by fucking molerats as a fucking warder. I think Sly wanted his amulet, so he followed him outside, shanked him, dragged him into the molerat cave, then waited to give some aspiring digger or shadow the mission to go look for him and make a convincing case that he didn't know he was dead. There's a giant pool of blood around Nek's corpse that looks like he got dragged into the cave.
>>741558531Yes, it's in the inventory of the skelly mage
>>741557983I did, and I loved it a lot. It’s one of my absolute favorite vanilla+ mods.That said, don’t expect too much new story content. It barely changes the main story, but it adds tons of new weapons, armor, balance changes, and extra loot to find, which makes it pretty great. It also gives you more build variety. For example, I did a mage run and discovered one-handed swords that require mana and scale with it. So I would damage enemies from afar with magic, then finish them off with my sword.And yes, you can learn runes. You learn magic either through the Water Mages or through Xardas. You can also get mage robes by praying to Beliar and sacrificing HP.Playing Guildless is kind of lackluster, though, because there’s barely any content for it. Everyone still treats you like you’re a mercenary or a Dragon Hunter, even though nobody mentions Onar. No new Npcs and like 2 new questsIf you don’t get the robes, you can get Demon Hunter armor instead. You can improve it by slaying demons in the colony and finding books that teach you how to upgrade it. I never got to do that myself, though, since I became a mage as well.>>741558646I guess. It never felt too OP after the DLC, at least to me. The game also gives you a dozen options for what to do with the Claw, like transforming it or giving it away for other rewards.
>>741558441really? fuck google said xardas would teachnow I don't know what would ex gang weeder join
>>741559049Are the old areas that nostalgic brings back still nothing but nearly empty places full of enemies and terrible loot?
>>741559049nice thanks
>>741559107Yeah, kind of. That’s still my biggest complaint. I swear they just copy-pasted the G1 loot in those areas, because in the Sleeper Temple or behind the orc wall, you find the exact same potions in the exact same chests.It’s so weird to me, because all the G2 areas have much nicer loot in comparison.
>>741559372>>741559107from what I heard it's just what they took from wasteland mod
>>741558392It's not over until you have gone through every camp
>>741558392The sleeper bossfight is actually pretty decent, for sure better than anything PB ever put outAlso has the neat touch of the hero using a magic spectral Uriziel if you turned it into a rune
Anyone knows where to get bloodfly scrolls in chapter 1?Baal Cadar is out so is every other Baal and their big boss guru too.I also checked the chests in swamp camp.This was kind of unplanned but it might be possible to break the barrier into sleeper temple in chapter 1.I just can't get inside again because I run out of bloodfly scrolls.
>>741559616there are 2 on the body of dead novice in swamp, inside tree trunk where swampsharks are
>>741559660Thanks, I'll check but I think I got those already.
Brah, I am never smoking that swamp camp weed again. I woke up in Varant
>>741559732kek
>>741559732Joke's aside, I took this to mean Alkimia plans to eventually go all the way up to Gothic 3.
robe of the dark arts is drippin
>>741559049do other guilds also get to learn runes or it's only mages and guildess? would be nice if paladins also got something magic
>>741559879THQ are already giving G3 the "Classic" label.So yeah - Gothic 3 Ramake will come eventually - question remains what to do with it considering that it's the worst rated game and got rushed out of the door initially. This one can't just be a mostly 1to1 remake.
>Xardas has pictures of the hero right next to his bed>it's a double bed that he never uses to sleepwhat did they mean by this?
>>741559612That's such a cool detail. Honestly, I was pretty confused that I didn't have to pick up those shaman swords this time, but stabbing his hearts with Uriziel is, like, a hundred times cooler.
>>741560035there's also an achievement called In bed with Xardas so take that as you will
>>741559612>anything PB ever put outIf PB were consistent about one thing its dogshit endgame and final bossfights
>>741554792That's the problem, it affected the whole game without a toggle setting.
>>741559951No circles. But, Paladins still have their Paladin runes, and they added a few new ones too. I never played as one, though. Mercs get no magic
>>741560031My guess? Alkimia are testing the waters to see how good they are at adding more content to 1, will add comparatively more content to 2 (possibly with actual DLCs) and then if all plays out alright, will remake 3 in a way that changes the story, quest distribution, etc. and fixes the game....can't wait to see all the "old new, good bad" shitposters that will suddenly start pretending that 3 was a flawless masterpiece.
>>741559035I think I fucked up. I don't have the book nor the quest. The mage's body is gone. No fucking way I forgot to loot him, took me a fucking hour of trying to finally kill everything in that fucking place.I see I logged out after dealing with them so I could load an earlier save but...ehhhh.
>>741557530Damage formulas work on sums not percentages, so if you have a defense of 30 but they hit you for 20 you receive literally no damage (maybe a token 1 damage I don't remember).
>>741560252>The mage's body is gonelook for his staff, it should stick out of the floorI also didn't loot him, returned later and the book was still there
>10 years from now on Alkimia will ask the fans if they would rather have a Forsaken Gods and Arcania remake or a Risen (G4 true) remake
>>741560360Honestly I think once Alkimia is done with the Gothic trilogy, they should just move on to make their own originals. Doing only remakes of other people's games is bound to get soul draining when you do it for too long.
which defense is more important? cut or blunt?
>>741560487Thing is that Gothic is the strong IP and THQ greenlit the remake in the first place to access that cashcow.Gothic 3 should open the door to a future of the series that goes beyond Risen/Arcania though.
>Huno: bro please help me and smith 5 sickles, I don't have the time, you can even use my smithy :)>also Huno: *hogs the fucking furnace all fucking day*fuck you
>Steal Snaf's meatbug recipe>he's now mad at me forever>beat the shitout of me>everything's forgiven and he even gives me daily slop
>>741560487>implying they can make their own gamesThose hacks didn't understand and remade Gothic, they loosely copied and only because they got yelled at by the fans.
>the braindamaged orc that asks for some of snafs meatbug stew actually knows a secret way into the sleeper templewhat the fuckI was 100% sure he wouldn't reward me anything useful
>>741560331Thanks but I can't find it. Spent 5 minutes going over and over again the place. I just reloaded an earlier save (thank fuck for the abundance of autosaves).
>>741560487Remaking G3 will require them to make a new game almost from scratch.
holy fucking shit, swimming while riding on the scavenger feels like you are on a god damn jet ski
>>741560584Swamp smithy has 2 of everything
>>741560771Can't wait to see them make a 200 hours version of their Gothic 1 remake demo.
>>741560584Wait, there are actual crafting quests?
>>741560867The moors deserve to be shit on for that but they did actually learn. That alone is a whole step above industry standard.
>>741560584Why would Huno need sickles? I dun get it.
>>741553282It's called "progress", soulslopper - in the games of ancient times new equipment actually made a difference.
>>741560781How do you do that?Jumped into a river near Old Camp and the scav is just running on the river bed with me completely submerged.No oxigene meter though.
>>741560935Part of a quest for someone who stealthily sells them to New Camp.
>>741560923>they did actually learnAll their additions and changes are for the worse, so no they didn't learn shit.
>>741560935It's for the rice farmers>>741560978that's a bug, next time just don't cliff dive with it
>>741560781What is this about riding a scavenger? I'm about to finish chapter one and no one mentioned it to me.
>>741557271Not canon.
>>741561060>next time just don't cliff dive with itFound a gently sloped surface descending to water but it still didn't work.Shit sucks.
>>741561127I only had that bug once, all the other times it swam fine.>>741561078Look for a dude with a house and a tame wolf and scavanger, pester him until he gives you want you want.
>>741561220I'll try to quit and reload.
Man, what a fight. This was a hundred times better than the og final boss.I genuinely thought I was just going to get rushed by a bunch of Templars while the Sleeper blasted me from afar, but those dream sequences were fantastic. I'm an absolute sucker for that kind of stuff, and I was definitely not expecting Mud to show up. I especially liked how the Sleeper actually insults and mocks you while you're trying to break free from the dreams.Stabbing the hearts with Uriziel also feels so much more satisfying than doing it with those rusty swords. And that Cor Kalom fight was tough as nails. No joke, I died like 15 times because those fucking hands kept getting me. Still, it was a better boss fight than pretty much anything else Piranha Bytes has doneMan, what a game. Don't get me wrong, I still have plenty of complaints, but I loved every second of it. It's honestly a miracle that this obscure German game got a remake after all these years, so I'm just grateful it exists in the first place.Now I kind of feel empty, but in a good way.I originally wanted to start a second playthrough right away, but I think I'm going to wait a few months until the bugs get patched and maybe a few mods come out
>>741561220>ask him 4 times>give up>it takes 5 times
>>741561028Story wise their changes aren't bad, I would only have liked for the old camp to be completely sealed once the attack on the new mine happens. But nothing particularly annoyed me>>741561262It's a very Gothic thing to do
>>741560819I used that one then realized I made 5 cutters instead of sickles. Went back and it didn't even gave me the option of making sickles. Wtf?
>>741561247Cor Kalom? More like Cor BegoneI agree though, the fight was quite good. Especially if you know the original one. Making most of the thing a battle against the sleepers corrupting influence was a great choice.
When will we gonna hear a news about 1M copies sold?
Seems like that I indeed was a drunk retard and didn't even loot the mage. Loaded an earlier game, fucked up the skeleton crew in 2 minutes and now I have to book.
>>741553282No its not good, they just made it like the original.Magicdmg scaling and a Spell for Lockpicking also came first with Gothic 3.
>heavy shadow armor is best looking early armor>heavy warder armor is best looking late armorno reason to join other camps
>>741560237Making a remake that is somehow worse than the original Gothic 3 would be an achievement.
>>741553282I just realized these german niggers do the same game over and over. Is this the power of german autism?
>>741561883The problem is that PB didn't do it, and then lost all their talent. As much as people call Risen 1 a good game, it already was inferior to Gothic in every way.
Oh my... Swamp camp has women too and I'd like see a pink inside of her...
>>741561661It's not that hard.Imagine G3 but somehow worse stability and performance while the hero keeps babbling to himself (Xardas skype calls in your head as an added bonus).
Finished my first run today (Swamp Camp)Overall a pretty good experience - I expected a lot worse after that first horrible demo and all the other controversies prior to release. But in it's core this is about as good as a faithful remake can be.Good:-Way better endgame, the original sleeper "fight" sucked - the story changes with additional orc lore are also welcome - was always weird how disconnected that stuff felt with the original Gothic comparing it to 2 and 3-Visuals: Really nailed the mine valley here. No real complains here. Everything felt more or less at home while also brushed up.-Combat: Risen still has the best "PB combat" but this here isn't bad - atleast its better than the other PB attempts after Risen.-Music: They got Kai Rosenkranz and Kai delivered - just how it should beBad:-Balancing: Holy fuck does magic feel weak right now. Only ever used it to snipe shit and summons while strong - are still summons at the end of the day. Always felt cheesy.-Bugs: This playthrough made me hate the NPCs with how often they either got stuck or teleported away to nowhere. Had to look up youtube and wikis a bunch of times to find out where idiots like Milten went in order to progress the main story - Extremely annoying-Skeleton Mages: Not sure if thats a bug but half the time i didn't hit them even though they weren't even teleporting. Locked on even. Definitely not feeling intentional.-Lockpicking: "Hey what if we take the dogshit minigame from the original and make it annoying in a different way" - Should have added G3s lockpick scrolls honestly
>>741562028>it already was inferior to Gothic in every way.I disagree.The town/swamp/monastery were done very well.Skills were also improved by keeping some granularity but without falling for the Gothic 2 trap.Plot was a downgrade but much better than Gothic 2 and 3.Late chapters are just as rushed and obviously underbaked.Exploration with levitation magic was a great addition.
>>741562186I played Gothic 3 last month. Even with decades of communitypatches there are still bugs in there, like vanishing QUESTITEMS from your inventory because of an quickload/quicksave bug. And dont get me started on actual Questnpcs and Questmobs. The Cheatmode was mandatory to play through it.
Gothic 2 is my favorite game of all time but even i am not blind to the obviously undercooked 2nd half of the game.Everyone with a brain agrees that the dragons were a mistake. Even PB ended up saying that the dragons were a mistake. Not in the way that dragons in general make for bad enemies but the way they handled them in this game.Returning to the valley should have been a truly great moment - instead you didn't really get anything outside of some old camp shenanigans and the hunt for the colorful dogshit dragon fights..And what is your reward for all of this? Who will you finally meet as the final boss in Beliars large ocean temple? Dragon again but -bones-This shit alone was enough material for G1 fanboys to shittalk G2 fanboys back in the days.
Xardas demon won't talk anymore glitch happened to me. Downgrading the patch didn't work, guess this is the end for me until it gets patched, such a same
>>741562340>townKhorinis, but less memorable >swampOnar's mercenaries, but less memorable >monastery Monastery of Innos, but less memorable
In act 4, one of the water mages said I need to talk to one of the new camp guys about dealing with the mine - I completely glazed over it assuming it'd add an entry to the quest log but now it's some hours later and apparently it didn't.Who am I supposed to talk to and where is he, anyone know?
>>741562630It works for me, I just tried it. Weird
>>741561247I've seen people complain about this fight (not on 4chan, on youtube) and I genuinely don't get why, it was awesome. For some reason they weren't ok with the demon who has spent the whole game actively trying to mentally manipulate people putting you too through mind games at the end.
>>741562643>I didn't replay it 20 times like Gothic 2 so it's less memorableI wish the Khorinis' Monastery was as good as Risen's. Especially the varied interactions you can get depending on how you entered, from getting mobilized by the inquisition to joining willingly with high praises from the local commander.
>>741562593The only problem with the dragons is that fighting them is pure cancer without scrolls or magic. They work as Beliar's big bad monsters, and Seekers work as his agents.
What the...how the fuck am i supposed to kill the great shadow beast? I got the fire lizard, swamp shit and the troll...but this is impossible.
I can see scavengers move around in distance, comfy
>>741556913HE'S BACK
>>741562806>we want Enderal audience
I thought this game was about not being a chosen one. I guess that impression was wrong.
>>741562224>to find out where idiots like Milten went...Milten of all npcs? I don't remember a single time where Milten's location wasn't completely clear, most of the game he's in front of the Innos temple, briefly moves to the lighthouse and his respective focus stone location like the rest of the gang (for which you get very clear indications) and then once the massacre happens he just tells you he's going with the water mages and stays with them for the rest of the game. For me the real problem npc was Wolf, dude just kept moving all over New Camp at random.
>>741562593foreshadowing
>>741553282So is this game piss easy or actually challenging?
does the GoG version of G1 classic include all community patches or i need to install them manually?
>>741553789i disagree entirely, having your stats tied to crit was awful
>>741556913funnily enough that was invented in second game
>>741556913The final cutscene is very disappointing. They should've done something with Xardas bringing you back for Gothic 2.
>>741553401>Meet first minecrawler>Lead him to group of diggers/paladins>Watch them fight from far away>Loot all their corpsesIt worked out pretty well for me. I could finally afford digger armor.
>>741563119It already has Union, you're good to go.
>>741559616Welp, didn't work.Guess it's scripted like half of the focus stones.
>>741553605The only system that blows is the lockpicking and that was a new addition. This is a game that feels like a game and that's refreshing in today's age of life simulator slop. I literally don't care if my character is feeling hungry, you fag.
Did they patch getting ore armor early?Beat up Gomez but he only dropped his master key and the ches left of his bad can't be lockpicked.
>>741556147>Training lockpicking>When lock solving wizards exist onlineCouldn't be me.
>>741563504>training strength>when cheatengine existsCouldn't be me
>>741553927>Gothic 2 noob>get quest to do something in some warehouse>some guy is guarding it, I guess I have to fight him>deal 0 damage to him, except every ~10 hits I land>"this must be bugged">look it up>it's not a bug, but I am severely underleveled>the noticable damage I dealt were crits which don't do 2x or 1,5x the normal damage as in any other game but 10x the damage a normal hit doesWtf were they thinking?
>>741556168Because it's stupid and needlessly complicated. The online wizard I use rarely has me doing less than 20 moves per lock and that's if it's done perfectly. I'm not wasting half an hour to get 20 nuggs and a cheese wedge.
>>741563107It's like the original, bullshit hard til you get powerful enough
>>741563664Gothic 1 isn't really hard.
>>741563625>Wtf were they thinking?Game was too long and G1 style progression too fast. It was a quick hack to slow down the player early on and they never bothered to improve it before release.
>>741563625The explanation is that the 10x damage you describe is the normal hit. All the other hits are glancing blows.
What's the use for telekinesis?
>>741563095>Xardas tells me to steal all the ore magic for the sword>teleport to the water mages and tell Milten>okay.jpg>now go to Gorn to get the guard out of way>return to the mages camp>MIlten is no longer there>walk around like an idiot trying to find him>all the youtube videos show him there but he isn't there for me>go wiki diving>apparently there is a bug where the escape from Gomez part doesn't fully conclude>glitch into the abandoned house and enter the tunnel that i used to escape>Milten is standing there in the middle like an idiot
>>741563740It is if you do things out of order like Skyrim teaches you.
>>741563798giving Gomez telekinetic wedgies
>>741563798you can grab shit from afarlike Scepter weapon and +1 STR permanent potion from a hanging corpse in one of the shipwrecks (tele scrools provided on site)or you can get wolfshredder bow in chapter 1 in the same area
who gives best prices for rings?
>>741563874>you can get wolfshredder bow in chapter 1 in the same area>he doesn't know
What's your opinion on pickpocketing
>>741563504it's really not an issue after the you learn the first skill, people are acting hyperbolic about it and it's better than a lot of other mini games of this kind cause it requires some brainpower. I did however hear somewhere that the second lock picking skill breaks some locks ironically creating soft-locked-locks so i didn't acquire it
>>741553282Is it good?Should I try if I never played the OG?Or should I play some other rpg?
>>741563625I guess they wanted to make melee damage scale slower, you could just dump like 3 levels into STR in G1 and start one shotting all the basic mobsIt's also a longer game so I guess they needed to make the progression slower.But man it's overkill. Normal hits pretty much never do more than the minimum damage of 5.
>>741563874>wolfsneederit ain't there anymore Gringo!
>>741563553>Wasting 45 minutes of my life>For a lockpick and a potatoCouldn't be me.
>>741564092pretty sure I saw it on a corpse when I started this rungot chest exp patch 1.07 after 20 hours in so maybe that one removed it
>remake devs think i am spending 5+ minutes infront of a lockpicking puzzle only to get one piece of cheese and 2 lockpicksOpenallthechests mod it is
>>741564000>it's better than a lot of other mini games of this kind cause it requires some brainpowerIt's worse because it requires too much time, there are too many locks to open and 95% of those locks have a pitiful reward behind them.
>>741564000It's nonsense. It neither represents what normal locks are like nor is any fun to do. It's just pointless busy work for items you rarely give a shit about. Why wouldn't I use a website to solve them?
>new patch comes out>suddenly get micro stutters and random crashes I never had before>they also broke xardas demon so you're just fucked in a new gamewhat the fuck are these patches
I think raven being interested in bortherhood, having weed in his room leads to him in sequel
>>741553789>notr balancingthat shit was fucking awful you retard
gothic remake was cool and all but when's the REAL deal gothic 2
>>741564010>Should I try if I never played the OG?Play the OG first and then decide for yourself.It's not a long game and it doesn't waste your time.
>>741562186No remake can have worse stability and performance than G3 when it came out.I was there.
>>741563007It worked, I'm the enderal audience. Calia can get it any day.
>>741564312>first patch breaks the lads before going after the crawler queen>second one breaks xardas demonuh oh
>>741562716Go towards the free mine, you'll find Gorn and the boys at the end of it
>>741564407>enderal fags are the remake industry target audienceGermany was a mistake.
>>741553282>Someone swings a sword at me irl>Die>Have Maximilian armor, someone swings a sword at me full power>Barely feel it.Yeah armor is op irl.
>>741564379Hopefully faster than 1, I'd like to play it before I'm old.
>>741563625Gothic 2 has no crits. Critical hit as a mechanic only exists in gothic 1. It doesn't even double your total damage just the damage of the weapon.
>>741564530I know a few nations that would agree with that statement
Not even bothered to pirate it before they manage to fix most the quest breaking bugs.
>>741565094>most the quest breaking bugs.such as?
>>741564227yeah I installed that after I opened Scatty's and Cor kalom's chestsand they were the easy ones, fuck that
Just snatched this from Y'berion's chest
>>741554489>in gothic 2 you will spam ctrl to pic up 10 individual arrows>not using Quick LootLOL
>>741564671>Gothic 2 has no crits.That's right, it has Vielfachschadentreffer instead which is a word unique to the German language. It refers to a hit that gets a multiplier to its damage.
>>741565251The formula for a G2 "crit" is the exact same thing as G1 "hit". There are no criticals, full stop.
I always felt like there are a ton of useless weapons in the gothic games. There are a different dagger for 10, 12, 14, 16, 18, 20 ,22 etc strength levels. Such a waste because they put effort into making the models and most of them look cool but why the fuck would I use a shittier one if I can use the one I have with the highest dmg? It's not like you go a whole chapter with 12 strength then with 14. You put at least 10 into it immediately so what's the point?
>>741565234Now go and knock out every baal there is including Y'berion.Each has nice rune.Picture related though some of them are from fire mages and orc shamans too.
>>741560487This dogshite company did not even profit from this shitty remix and that's a good thing Reinhard Pollice deserves to be humiliated at every step.Remake was bad btw
>>741565303>actually those crits are normal hits and those hits were glances which do 1/10th the damage your normal hit does, this is totally different to normal hits that do 1x damage and crits that do 10x damage
You know you've really made it into the videogames business once you get a 4chan schizo to decide it is now his life's mission to try to convince your fandom they're not actually having fun.
>>741553789Gothic 2 NotR has the worst mechanics in any game I've played with its retarded crit system, LP abuse, and potion hoarding.>>741554204this>>741554310the factions in g2 are super boring and pigeonhole you into specific playstyles
>>741565303>The formula for a G2 "crit" is the exact same thing as G1 "hit".Okay, and the result is that unlike G1 when you hit an enemy you won't damage it unless you "hit" with the RNG roll.Call it what you wish but it feels awful to play.
>>741565390>role-playing game>doesn't role-playDon't even try with the "uh ackshully i'm le evil and would do this" the mechanics just makes them literally not give a shit about you beating and looting people like a grape ape nigger
>>741562580Bs, I completed G3 with the modpack and no such thing ever happened.
bullit went down in 3 hits, woman needs 30
>>741565867>whaaaaaaaaaa>why does convict do convicty things!!!!!!>my swampweed addled brain can't take it>save me niggerman!!@!!
>>741565867You're a convict in a penal colony. The strong rules and you are strong.It's not more complicated than that.>n-no but the game wasn't designed t-SHUT THE FUCK UP
>>741565867>retard not paying attention to lore lel
I joined the swamp campthere is a quest about beating up bullit for the foid in the kitchen and after that there is a followup where you say you'll ask around in the swamp camp if that's better for foidsI could only ask the black bitch and she said yeah it's betteris this the end of it? I could't say anything related to this to the old camp bitch
>>741565919depends on the woman, reallythe one down in the throne room got knocked down in like one good hitbloody game even lets you stomp her face in while providing a pantyshottruly doesn't get more woke than this
>>741565867Been there, done that.Behaved like a good boy during my first run, respected my elders, said please and thank you.In the end I still fucked over every single camp in the Colony for ''greater good''.
>>741566128there are 2 females near Y'berion, you should get a dialog option asking if she thinks SC is saferif you did that, you're done for nowtry in next chapter, or the one after that and the quest will continue
>start fight in new camp tavern since the doormen won't let me in as a shadow anyway>steamroll merc and bandits>suddenly get 1 shotted by some named characteri don't get how they balance npc's. big shot guys like thorus, diego, raven, y'berion are all significantly weaker than some random fuck
>>741565867You people seem to miss the point that this game happens in a convict colony with no rule of law, just factionalism.In G2 you no longer can do that because you're now in a city.
>>741566315the other one just says don't bother me, no dialogue optionI'll try next chapter I'm only in 2thanks brah
>>741566339>In G2 you no longer can do thatBeating up the mercs is a long time honoured tradition.
>>741566316>by some named character>random fuckYou probably fought some of the teachers.Most mooks don't do shit to me but swamp camp 2 handed teacher guy ended me in 2 slashes
>>741553282I'm on act 2 and I'm already getting bored. The game is good in act 1 where it's a survival exploration game. The exploration mid. I think I already found everything the game has to offer. Wide as the ocean...
I appreciate the boomer humor in this
>>741566339>In G2 you no longer can do that because you're now in a city.You can rape loot and murder the entire khorinis and pay a small fine of 1000 gold to lord andre and everything will be forgiven, or you can enter the monastery and it's free. And the loot you'll get from raping the whole city is significantly more than the fine. Or murder everyone as long there's no witness you don't have to pay shit.The crime system is extremely abusable.
>>741566128First time I asked the black one she said "probably but everybody's busy due to the sleeper ceremony right now", after the ceremony is over you can talk to her again and she says "yeah it's safe here" and then you can go back to the old camp to tell the redhead.
>>741566425Yeah that's the whole point of the faction, if I remember correctly you could just beat them up into accepting you and ignore all their quests couldn't you?At the very least they got it coming they have that Sentenza cunt that literally gets in your face and beats you for no reason.>second playthrough after a long time>remember that merc NPC that fucks you up >go around the road, enter Onar estate>feel all comfy and shit>suddenly a NPC talks to me>"woah woah you haven't met my buddy haven't you? SENTENZA COME HERE">that fucking faggot comes from a kilometer away to beat my assGreat characterization.
>>741566440looked him up and he's not even a trainer, just some fence/merchant with a swampweed peddling sidequest
>>741565867
are you faggots still playing this goyslop?
>>741566763Cypher?
>>741566339the entire harbor district has no law enforcement what so ever, you can beat and rob people all you want
>>741565248>have to mod out bad designthanks for agreeing with me.
>>741566506you can also summon skeletons in the middle of Khorinis. No one will bother you while skeletons farm XP and gold for you.
>>741563783It's semantics at this point, you autistic faggot.We all understand what he means and your correction does not change anything.
>>741566790>>741566339>>741566016>>741565978>>741565940>duuur i beat all da leadurz up and they wuz scared but still treat me like nothing in the story>they didn't order all of the diggers to pin me down when I go to sleep so gomezes faggot ass can rape my face with a macefucking SEAfags
Go farm (you)s somewhere else imbecile.
>>741566506>>741566902It could've been implemented better but my point is that a big part of the setting of G1 goes to waving away common RPG mechanics:>world is incredibly small? because it's a penal colony>there's a lack or complete absence of common things like horses, shields or women? because it's a penal colony>you can murderhobo and get your way to a huge extent? because it's a penal colony>there are no hints of a credible economy, with very little farming for so many warriors? because it's a penal colonyG2 waved away all of that when it grew to a full island, falling into the common pitfalls of the genre which is lax lawful enforcement, non-credible economy, exceedingly small world-size, etc etc... Still a good game, but not as special.
Is the supply list from Old Mine deciding factor for OC/NC admission?If I give it to Lares and disappoint Diego, can I still salvage shit somehow?
>>741567207but how would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast
>>741566824says as he posts goyslop
>/pol/tard idiot escaped from his containment shithole againIt's all so tiresome.
>>741567348that's the point. The two remakes are the same thing
>>741567357then go back eternal summerfag
Did they fix the dogshit performance yet
>>741567271It only matters for NC admissionDiego doesn't give a fuck about whether you give it to Lares or not.
>>741567460No, fuck off
>>741567271Diego never cares, if you want to make a save pre-faction join in which you can join anything, you have to give it to Lares, it won't block OC.
>>741567537>>741567617Thanks.
>>741567396trying too hard to fit in
>>741567357trans women = menyou’re not female and neither is your mentally ill brother/friend who you defend who is 100% certainly a predatory pedophileKYS freak
>>741567537It's annoying that you can't ask Diego if he knew what was up later on, and how he could tell.
>>741567242G2 was put together in 1 year full of crunch of a bunch of amateurs who got played by big Corp publisher. That it worked is a mircale. Dont look to deep in the worldlogic of G2.
>>741567767Did you try reading the list yourself? Lares wasn't exactly subtle.
>>741567670you're trying too hard to eat shit, shit-eater
>>741567791It's fine, i'm not dissing it much, ultimately that's every RPG ever, TES games are the worst offenders of that.It's just that G1 was probably the only RPG game in history that had a believable implementation for the scope of its settings, it was a very unique characteristic that was lost on the following games.
>>741567348Isn't that a "Gothic 1 Remake" screenshot?
>>741567807Oh. I figured it was skillfully done since the protagonist goes completely along with it and also can't tell the result.
>>741568064no, this is
>you can preview how your armors look, and have different optionsHoly mother of soulkino
so is mage fixed or not?
>>741568230saaaaaaaaaaaaaaar
>>741568260https://www.nexusmods.com/gothic1remake/mods/282Fix it yourself
>>741568260not without mods
>>741568313>>741568294didnt they buff it tho?still feels weak?wow
>>741567242>shieldsThis was always a gameplay concession, just like spears.They can make their own armor and weapons, there's no way they can't figure out how to make shields.
>>741568354they also buffed a bunch of enemies, so its less of a buff than it seems
>>741568428smithing was gatekept by bigshots so only wooden shields would be realistic and even then someone would probably steal your shield while you were sleeping and turn it into a stool next day.
put on my big boy pants, wanna go for a hybrid melee/mage buildahem, fuck Reds, fuck Gomez and fuck the King
desu they should of added shields and helmets in remakeGame isnt 1:1 and nobody would be strictly against it. Its clear the only reason why it wasnt in G1 and G2 was because of they didnt have time.
>>741568885nice scarf faggott. gomez gang
>>741568913Add dual wielding too then.
>>741568727>only wooden shields would be realisticAnon, that's most IRL shields.
Why is there so few spells? All they had to was add spells from G2. They didnt have to fucking make an exact copy of flaws from the original.
>>741569120>They didnt have to fucking make an exact copy of flaws from the original.It was either this or the demo, pick your poison.
>>741569120the mages were trapped inside the colony without any rune tables so that's all they have in stock.
Was Lester such a weak bitch in the original too? I remember him being a chad in Gothic 2.
>>741568965nah, duel wield is a meme
>>741568913>Its clear the only reason why it wasnt in G1 and G2 was because of they didnt have time.No, the originals didn't have blocking, only parrying. And it didn't work against animals at all. So it's rather clear that it was a gameplay decision.
>>741569284Lester was always just a chill bro who smokes weed. Every other friend from your group mogs him in combat.
>>741569678>hero never actually smokes those things>in the original he didWOKE WOKE WOKE
>>741569529lester solos seekers and dragon snappers at the beginning of chapter 3 in gothic 2 doe.
>>741569284>I remember him being a chad in Gothic 2.Reminder that he's the only party member for the ship crew that offers no benefits for bringing him with you whatsoever.
>>741569850He brings the weed man
>>741569816He is not an elite, like the other three or anyone from the extended group.
>Here at the New Camp we are all about freedom®!Yeah, I've seen your rice fields full of slaves. Fuck off.
>>741569307But it's my meme.
>>741570181They are there are voluntarily, you can even ask them about that :^)
I hate how this game forces you to go all-in in builds with no room for mixing. You either go balls deep on strength, dex, or magic or your character sucks. Morrowind did this infinitely better.
>>741570181>Old CampFeudalism >New CampCapitalism >Swamp CampSocialism. Seems great, but never ends well for anyone involved
>>741570347I did and you're full of shit.Guy literally tells you how he got press-ganged into it by Lefty and the fag tries to do the same with you if you help him with water delivery.
>>741570490>play in hard>wtf what do you mean my build has to be good
>>741570546And they decided to go with it anyways, just like you can choose to continue working on the rice fields or not.
>>741570490hard to do first run but don't waste your point for pointless shit and it's doablehalfway through making STR magealready did the math and I'll be able to reach circle 6 at level 40
>>741570546Funny thing is everyone fucking hates Lefty, Lester commends you for beating him up.Basically if you're a weakling you're not gonna be any better in NW than anywhere else, but at least they're trying to free everyone.
>>741570676>already did the math and I'll be able to reach circle 6 at level 40This is not good gameplay.
>>741570647>just like youNo, not like me at all.Everyone weaker than Lefty would be just beat up senseless and forced.No choice there.
>>741570763Ok.
>>741570830Super adult reply, Anon.
>tfw carrying 6 crossbows and swapping instead of reloadingit's great that every other guard carries one
>>741570873why do you sound so offended over a simple "Ok"?
>>741570873Well what do you want to hear?I respectfully disagree with your esteemed assessment?I don't really give that much fucks whether someone likes or dislikes it nor do I want to spent next hour trying to persuade you.
>>741570975>u mad?really digging your hole
>>741570975>>741571026You are a bunch of babies covering your ears acting like your game is perfect. It's not. Just because you play it when you were little doesn't make the game immune to criticism.
legitimately, what is so infuriating about simple okay?
>>741570676That's pretty extreme example.Full mage needs 160 LP for alchemy, scrolls and all the circles without any mana upgrades which.You could go half way, sling some spells and still have plenty of LP for other stuff.
>>741570513The "socialism" is the least of the things wrong with Swamp Camp and the one good point they're left with post-chapter 2 though.
>>741571098>acting like your game is perfect.Are you fucking retarded?It's half broken mess with shitload of stuff that needs work.>Just because you play it when you were littleI didn't.
>>741570513more like>slavery>slavery>slavery: dude weeeeed edition.
>>741570513Swamp camp barely gives you enough weed to get high, too. It's a scam. You will never be toasty like the top dogs.
>>741570546>Tell Lefty no.>He tries to beat you up.>Beat him up instead.>Not a single other person in the camp gives a shit.>None of the other bandits or mercs or even the Rice Lord side with him.>No one comes tell you you aren't fulfilling your obligations by not doing what Lefty tells you.>In fact, the only comments you ever get are that Lefty had it coming and it's a bonus to you joining the camp.>You never see anyone get stopped from leaving the rice field, just Lefty being an annoying fuck to the workers.Something tells me Lefty is not meant to be a representative of New Camp and is just being an ass by punching down on the free workers but without any actual authority to do so.
What is the point of no return for each of the camps? Is it going to be obvious? I don't want to lock myself into one camp by doing too much on accident.
>get to chapter 4 blindly>rando ass build>having to save and reload all the time for any dialogue, chest or questmaybe im just a pussa but i might just stop here, i feel the good part of the game is already done anyways
There is no slavery cause no one actually stops people from going to the other camps. Once you join one you are obviously getting treated with suspicion by the other camps but the thing is - no one would give a shit about a rice farmer boy running away and joining the old camp instead.Not like he has any reason to do that considering the entire valley has a "the stronger man is always right" policy. They get beat up either way.If the rice boys weren't weaklings they would do the same shit people like Lefty are doing.
>>741571858>Old CampTalking to Gomez.>New CampDoing The Raid.>Swamp CampUhhhh, I think you just told Cor Kalom that you convinced the baals and that led directly into it, so be most careful with that one.
What other games do my gothicbros play? I play Blue Archive.
>>741571858>weed campyou talk to Cor Kallom after you get approval of at least 4 baals>old campDiego sends you to talk to Thorus and he sends you to talk to Gomez, telling you to behave and that you're on your ownonce you enter the building Raven takes you to Gomez>new campno idea, didn't join them yet
>>741571858Yes, it's pretty obvious.Do the quests for everyone and then choose. Depending how you do your quest you might lock yourself out of a camp or two.
>>741571858OC:>Speaking to Gomez at the castleNC:>Speaking to Lares after the raid (I don't know if doing the raid locks you out of OC though)SC:>Telling Cor Kalom to become part of the SC after having four gurus convincedI'm less clear about the SC but all in all it's pretty clear. No matter how many quests you do, to enter a faction you must speak to a top dog (Cor Kalom, Gomez, Lares) and you turn right there.
>>741570718>Lefty tells you to get water for the works>Don't do it right away>Next time you see him, he tries to beat your ass>Take him down in 2 hits>Dialog option to tell him the workers are thirsty and need waterHoly kino
>>741571708>Something tells me Lefty is not meant to be a representative of New Camp and is just being an ass by punching down on the free workers but without any actual authority to do so.Sounds like bad leadership to me. Lefty and the rice fields are the first things you see entering the New Camp.
>>741571979>>741572025>>741572054Thanks
>>741572162Yeah the point is showing that NC attracts scum and lowlives, you also have the blackmailers on the bridge.However Lares is an alright guy and the mercenaries are all nice. Overall NC and OC are inverted in the sense that OC has nice people the lower you go in the hierarchy and NC has nice people the higher you go.
>>741572025>Diego sends you to talk to Thorus and he sends you to talk to Gomez, telling you to behave and that you're on your own>once you enter the building Raven takes you to GomezActually you can just speak to Diego, then Thorus, then enter the castle, talk to the fire mages and then fuck off, I did that.
>>741572243Can you get and ending where all camps are happy? I don't hate any of them, well not enough to genocide them.
>>741572310I'm sorry anon but there's only one ending, the story becomes linear after early chapter 2.
Is a hardcore run on hard with melee only even doable? You would basically have to have perfect dodge no?
>>741572352>I'm sorry anon but there's only one endingAh bummer.
>>741572243>Lares is an alright guyHe extorts you for money for the privilege of joining.G2 Lares is a cool guy sharing the same name.
>>741571708Game tells you things about each camp's reputation that don't completely match with reality.>old camp>it's safest because powerful people make sure to maintain order>you have to pay multiple guys regularly for protection>if you don't, they'll send a digger or even bunch of diggers to teach you a lesson>if you do they still won't move a finger if you get into scuffle with another protection 'subscriber' besides preventing him from outright murdering you>new camp>beware it's bandit central where people will slit your throat for a few pieces of ore>besides Lefty who's disliked by his own peers and superiors rest is pretty chill>no protection money, no beatings
two worlds epic edition mogs
>>741572439You can literally not give him the money, it's not a precondition for joining NC or anything.
>>741572540>it's not extortion, it's a scamOh wow, that chances everything.
>>741572304me too, just wanted to tell anon where the point of no return happensthough I also managed to fuck off after Raven tried to escort me to Gomezthen I sneaked in later, beat up Gomez and Scar for their swords and I couldn't join reds afterward
>>741572630Nigger the weed is not even yours
>>741572540How? I'm at that part right now. He talks about all the good stuff I've done for them but still says I need to pay him to get on his good side. I already did the quest and 50/50 split with the swamp guy. Not sure I want to pay 200 of my own nuggets to appease him.
>>741572694Please understand, anon just saw +400 ore enter his pocket then his lack of object permanence made him think that was just his own ore and not part of a delivery quest.
>>741572714>Beat Lefty>Kill the lurker for the dam builder>do all Rice Lord quests (two)>then give him the Old Mine list + raid quest (you need to farm Old Camp reputation to be able to do this which if you're talking to Lares I assume you did)That's all it took for me.
great want to start playing as a pure mage can not regenerate mana or health anymore while sleeping
>>741572243I've always found it strange that the Water Mages are more approachable than the Fire Mages. Adanos is the god of struggle and survival, that kind of stuff. And the New Camp also reflects this. Maybe they're just fake like Americans and secretly want to see you fail while the Fire Mages are strict but benevolent.
>>741572694lmao Anon would not last a day as a dealer.
>>741572694You get a job to deliver the weed.You get paid by each costumer.You share part of the ore you earned with your employer.Then a third party, who did nothing and you didn't even met before, demands compensation because he claims to be the local thug leader.
>>741572781>>then give him the Old Mine list + raid questI have no idea what this means so I guess that's the problem. Did everything else.
>>741573076that's the important stuffDiego sends you to Old Mine to retrieve the listif you bring it to Lares he will let you joinif you don't you're out only get to join NC much later for story reasons
>>741572950That's a bug, just get a mod to fix it.
>>741573071Anon, you mixed up two different quests. The baal inside the cave who asks you to sell individual rolls to random bandits is not the one Lares was talking about. He's talking about the one in the tavern that sells a big fucking bundle of swampweed that you then have to sell to Cipher.
>Swamp camp is suppose to be the more friendly camp>Drug addicts won't even talk to you if you aren't up their social levelThe moment I dropped them for the Old Camp.
>>741573352No, I didn't mix up quests.You help out Baal Isidro by doing what he wasn't willing to do. Which is delivering the weed.
>>741573193it is not really a bug I realized that I have to be awake a certain number of hours to be able to regenerate health and mana, the only solution I got so far is that I smoke my 3 blunts I get for free from the samp camp, so I am basically constantly high and slinging level 1 firebolt
>>741573886Yes that's the intended effect, but in my game it bugged out and I couldn't ever regenerate hp/mana by resting.
how jank is the gameplay?
>>741573886>it is not really a bugfor some people the regen is fucked no matter how much they stay awake
>>7415740153.74
>have handy light spell rock>need some circle of magic upgrade to use>none of the water and fire mages i spoke to do training for thatmotherfuckers can't even let us hold a torch while swinging a ONE-HANDED weapon either
Is there a trainer that increases life points?
>>741574345No, health increases automatically with levels.
>>741573934>>741574020well that sucks maybe they did what I was going to do and go to sleep in the swamp camp 100 times to get 300 swampweed, if that modifier stacks and does not reset each day you are pretty fucked
Trainers is a good concept but my Lord it could have been executed better.
>>741574345you get 12? each level and there are +HP perma potions scattered over the map + jewellery with same effect
>>741574448nuh uh, you WILL awkwardly swing a two-hander until later chapters and also piss away learning points in one-handed training to access it
I have noticed now that there are paintings with horses, I guess that's what will be a mount in 2 remake
>>741574979there's already a mount in the G1 remake
>>741575225yeah but it won't fit thematically in 2
>>741575290It doesn't fit in 1 either.
>>741574172I got 60 light scrolls git gud scrub
>>741575393yeah but it fits tiny bit more than in 2
In 2 you will RIDE A FUCKING FIELD RAIDER FUCK YEAH
>>741575598If they add horses will they also add shit like Helmets and shields?
>>741575646>SCREEEEEECH
Ocarina of Time had horses. Shields, too.
>>741575678that's 3 remake
>>741575646feels like an archolos shitpost
>>741575646Man that would be great. Love those things.
>>741575646>you learn how to ride a young dragon>it runs away the second it sees an enemy
>>741575646they were my favorite guys from 2, god i hope so
holy fuck
>>741576062cliff zombies?
>>741576062Not real.
>>741576127yeah, better reward than the actual focus quest reward.By the way Y'Berion in this remake looks like a Turkish scammer, very accurate.
>>741576062average unlocked chest lootMeanwhile locked chest with 7 plates that have 3 connections each:- brush- 15 ore- rusty sword (15 damage)
>>741575528i use mine, you smelly hoarder
>>741576320>- 15 oreNice joke
>>741576320a..at least they give a crumb of exp now
>>741574451>>741574407Aight, I was just wondering if I should take the permanent HP potions already since I'm already hoarding the rest to get past any caps (although I doubt I will at this rate, I fucked myself up)
>>741576615the easy chests give 10 exp. 10 pathetic exp.
>>741576303
>>741576651Yeah, take those the moment you find them, there is no cap to health.
>>741576651hoard STR / DEX use everything else
New thread>>741576753>>741576753
>>741576735>>741576743Mana increase potions too? Alright
>>741576062I'll give two iron wood for that potion
>>741576717close enough
>>741576784Once you hit 100 in any of the stats like str, dox or mana, trainers can no longer teach you shit. So before you take the potions, reach that level first, whatever it is you're levelling.Only mages or templars have reason to save mana stat potions for later.
the visual aura loss is insane in this remake death to unreal engine
>>741577116shittiest graphics i've ever seen. the UE saved that nightmare.
>>741577181saved it by not recreting anything in high fidelity but instead making that vile platic
>>741575646>you get dragon snapper mount in 2 remake>but only for dragon hunter
>>741577116yeah, don't remind me
>>741577256>Fire mages get a paladin mount
>>741577298
For fuck sake, camp this, camp that...just shut the fuck up. Do you want the real redpill? IT literally doesnt matter which camp you pick. You spend whole second chapter in swamp camp and then new camp in 4th. Every single run, every single camp. It's literally red, blue, green pokemon shit, just color of your armor.That's why G2 is miles better.
>>741577298Ain't caste systems a bitch. Lothar you bitch, piggyback me to the monastery.
new thread as this th reaad about to hit max limit>>741576753>>741576753
>>741577368Yeah most camp talk is about the philosophy and vibes of each
>>741553282
>>741577393Haha, poor fucker.Du bist ja noch nicht mal AUSERWÄHLTER INNOS'!
All the zoomies are going to pay 50 gold pieces in the second remake.
>>741577682At least you get his vote. This guy, however...
>>741577797>Fire mages are all cunts What's new?
>>741577797keep paying him +50 gold and you'll get like 85 hp +2 mana and a learning point, worth it
>>741577880>cuntsDude gives you a bunch of stats if you have the money to donate to him. You're aren't struggling with money are you anon?
>>741577797you can bypass his blessing from the guy near monastery that does it for freeyou still should pay him for other profits
>>741577910Yeah, but for Thorben's quest, he just sticks his hand in your wallet and takes what he wants.After that, I love to donate.
>>741577910Or...i could pray to Innos.
>>741578027you can drop your gold on the ground which triggers alternative dialogue and instead he gives you like 20 gold
>>741578035Innos himself doesn't bless you as hard for the same cash though
>>741578063I know. Fuck that red cunt.
>>741577682I hope they add reactivity for holocausting the orc siege.
in 2 we have>innos faction>innos faction>atheists
>>741577508rodger that
>>741578134And the option to keep going past the ork wall.
>>741578194that's the low hanging fruit of new contentthough I don't know how they will do "huge army of orcs" there
>>741553282thats how it worked in the originalarmor is supposed to be a massive step up for your character, thats why its gated by progression
>>741578194You CAN go beyond the wall.
>>741578240Well for G2 remake I want all the fruits no matter where they hang and they should just add several large groups of orcs, as many as the engine can handle, just for us to kill.
>>741554056direct damage dealing spells are worthless unless you're doing AOEyour best spells are ice block so that you can whack enemies without worry or summoning shit to deal damage in your stead
wait, what? is this a sleeper in here? it's been like 10+ years since i played original so i don't remember anything from it and im confused because i remember first you had to talk to xardas and get some special armor and stuff and only then you'd go to kill sleeperi've cleared probably like 80% of this dungeon having killed a lot of those boss shaman guys etc. i don't want to go too far i still want to do a lot of stuff in the outside
>talk to ian about getting into the blocked mineshaft, says no>talk to diego and he says he will tell ian to open it>go back to the mine>ian and diego now hostileshould I just leave for a few days?
>>741578875you need powered up uriziel to get past that just like in original.
>>741579098so i kil all the bosses, demons and stuff and then go back?
>>741566506So just like real life, then.
>twohanded costs 70 points total>bow and crossbow each cost 30What did they mean by this?
>>741579527bows and crossbows are for pussiesreal men fight with steel in their hands
>>741579527Two handed costs 100 because you now HAVE to master 1h.
>>741579682Good, imagine going through the first 2 chapters without any 1h training
I'm thinking about restarting and trying a mage build. How fast can I reach the trainers needed in the Old Camp? Like, how do I get the fire mages to adopt me like a lost puppy?
>>741579830>Like, how do I get the fire mages to adopt me like a lost puppy?Chapter 2 in the OG, Chapter 3 in the remake.
>>741579830basic novice shit immediately out of the gatereal shit in chapter 3you can prepare by learning scrolls in swamps
>>741579830Chapter three, so you're gonna be spamming firebolt for two chapters.I think it's fine you can damage minecrawlers so it's doable.
now whati backtrack all the way to where i came from where female orc shaman led me?
>>741553282these games arent as good as you people make them out to be, yes I did play them when I was youngert. 35yo unc
>>741579902Who raises mana in the old camp? In my current playthrough I couldn't find any magic related trainer in the old camp. The fire mages won't even let me in the temple.
>>741580045or just teleport out to xardas and show him the sword
>>741580065The one you need to impress with sleep magic
>>741580065nobody
>>741580065No one, either Cronos or one of the Baals in the Swamp.Funnily enough, Torrez becomes a mana trainer in chapter 2 no matter your camp.
>>741580129i don't have to go back to the orcs and tell them what happened?
>>741572059I make sure to tell him every time i pass by
>>741580137thats the swamp
>>741580152>>741580173The could have put one mana trainer. Just saying.
>>741580056>these games arent as good as you people make them out to belelhalf of these threads is whining about hoe anything and everything is bad or broken>>741571335>It's (the game) half broken mess with shitload of stuff that needs work.
>>741580254In the OG Torrez was outside the temple teaching you mana, I don't know why they changed it.
why do they adjust daamge in a singleplayer gamewhy do they take away early rewards such as high damage weapons in a singleplayer game??
>>741580331Nope, he just hangs with Fisk this time.
>>741580254I think it's more likely a bug, there's no reason for Torrez to start teaching me mana when I join the NC but not when I was guildless.>>741580331In the OG no fire mage was outside the castle.
>>741580336>why do they take away early rewards such as high damage weapons in a singleplayer gameThey didn't
>>741580434he probably means the wolfshreder bow that was patched out
>>741580041Can I put a couple of cheeky points in strength or do I have to save it all for magic skills?
>>741580407>In the OG no fire mage was outside the castle.Xardas.And I didn't say castle but temple. Dumb nigger.
>>741580434yes they did they took away the bow you get from a quest from hännothey switched the +38 damage 1h sword in the basement of the rundown house to later in chapter 3
>>741580407Torrez isn't one of Gomez' dudes, he is a damn Fire Mage and they are bros with the Water Mages.
>>741580190nobody cares what the orcs think
>>741580475>wolfshreder bow that was patched outWhy is this even a thing in an SP game?What the fuck
>>741580490Mage run isn't that fun because the later game runes kinda suck. I'd advise going Templar and being strong enough to cut things if you need to.
>>741580336There are good reason to do it but they seem to have no logic behind their actions. It's change for the sake of change just like the rest of the remake.
>>741580598>>741580434They increased enemies health drastically and patched weapons out because reddit was whining
>>741580582i was new camp and ended up maxxing otu strength with two hander even while being circle 6 and using runes and shit
this remake is chopped
>>741580502nta but you can get +40 damage 1h longseword as soon ask you ask the OC loon guide to take you to swamp camp + 5 minutes for a swim
>>741580598There must be an insane amount of dudes in corpo jobs who feel like they need to justify their positions and they will propose a change so they can prove they did something.
>>741580490You can, but you can just start getting mana and use firebolt for everything you can hit.Mage early game is probably the strongest mage builds are in this game.
>>741580681nope thats gone tooand the skeleton up in the mast
>>741580582>Mage run isn't that funWell, that's disappointing.
>>741580643As I said, no logic.In the OG if you had learned magic (any camp) you were rewarded by letting you walk all over the temple guards with death to the undead.Can't have that in the remake. Why? Who knows.
>>741580749>nope thats gone toowhat about the other one locked inside the ship with pretty good amulet?sure it need a key from goblin/troll cave but it is not that hard to reach early
>>741580763Tell me about it. Thankfully it's not all bad and Templar is a valid choice. Runes now scale with circle and it makes stuff like healing pretty useful.
>>741580815Those higher damage weapons felt good as a reward for quests that were a bit harder than your usual "collect 3 moss" quests>>741580842That sword isn't in the chest anymore now
I meatbug'd into Gomez room during the end of chapter 3 when he equipped the Ore armor just so I can see if I can loot it when he has it equipped.Yup, still there in his chest.
>>741580815mage rebalance mode places the damage of death to the undead to a proper 999it also buffs other magic to make it viable
>>741580857I'm not interested in joining the swamp camp.
>>741553789>notrnice bait
>>741580916Then do a Templar build and pump some str otherwise you might suffer real bad with no actual reward.
>>741581019But then why not just pump str and ignore magic altogether? Sounds like the most efficient path to me.
>>741580882>That sword isn't in the chest anymore nowwell fuck themguess I'll start next run with the shipwreck Scepter if they don't remove it by then and go for Revenge steel 'hidden' in orc camp with a pair of bloodfly scrolls from weed camp corpse
>>741581160Because Firebolt and some mana clears half the map and healing gets really useful later on, you can just keep the health pots for combat.
>>741563051Your name being "Hero" was too subtle for you?The nameless hero does not have some special backstory or anything though, just a man of deeds who gets shit done.
>>741580882it still is, the 40 damage one
The fastest way to a decent weapon early game is the sword of (death)? in the old castle cellar you can get with a meatbug scroll from the abandoned hut.
You can sneak up on a shadowbeast' ass, and then 2h combo him and drop him on his ass and finish him without him even touching you
>>741581338just be cautions so Fluffy doesn't get yougetting in and out is also going to be fun
>>741581302>Hero" was too subtle for you?In German it just says "I" or "me"
>>741581540It should say "protagonist".
just beat the sleeper fight in the remakeholy shit that final cor kalom fight was absolute garbage on hard with no summons as a magealmost, ALMOST, ruins the game for me
>>741581803>with no summons as a mageyeah no fucking shit
where the fuck is Lester in the old mine after speaking to Ian
>>741581963At the entrance, outside.
any reason why this chest isn't owned? is it quest related?
>>741581803>>741581872I have yet to do the mage playthrough, how do the summons work? Do you just get them forever as companions? Do they bug out of areas and stuff?
>>741582062No, the moors missed it
>>741582027yeah because of course I have to do a fucking runback
>>741582105If they're the same as the OG they remain forever but don't follow you.
>>741582062>is it quest related?I wish it was.One of the things inside is a drawing of war hammer with some reminders for the blacksmith.It's not a blueprint though and no blacksmith in game offers to craft it.
>>741581302theres a solid school of thought that posits that while the nameless hero doesnt have a 'special backstory', he is nonetheless the chosen of innos, adanos, and beliar for the purposes of dealing with the sleeperthe evidence for this is how the nameless hero masters shit absurdly quickly, reaching levels that others take their whole lives to achieve. in multiple disciplines.
>>741583791You forgot being an absolute master at fighting and surviving. None of us could beat the game without the quicksave function.
