here's your King Arthur, bro
He looks like he'd lose his first kiss to a Futa dick.
it was disappointing
I have NTR fatigue.
>>741560167>White boy with blond hairs >Wearing european looking clothes>Based on legend of king of britain>Use katanatwo nukes wasn't enough
i look like this
>>741560827That's a good thing because this game is futa on male
>>741560167>faggotryYou can keep him.
>>741560827>NTRthis is a gay/futa/feminization through and throughand this thread will get 500 replies about it instead of discussing good games
>>741560595>losesounds like a win to me
>>741560167I'm not your bro, pal.
>>741560875LONDON?
>Br*t*sh food kek
>>741560848kek wtf, I didn't even notice.
bump
Game name?
>>741564278it's the gay butt kissing game
>>741564278paradise succubus
>>741561297This game is better than maybe 90% of the games that get active threads here. I would rather discuss this game than>any final fantasy game>any resident evil game>any gacha game>any monster hunter game>stellar bladeamong many many others
>>741567364I wouldn't go that far, but it is at least better and more on-topic than gacha trash and twitter screencap ragebait, which is a good chunk of the board these days.>>741560848Obviously that's why Excalibur is so powerful compared to the primitive European weapons others are using.
why is /v/ so full of legitimate faggots now? we used to ridicule and chase you>b-b-b-but it's not gay if it's a futa dick!nigger you like penis. you're a faggot
>>741560167what atributes to make public figures and icons into faggotry?
what's it actually called
>>741568041>now
>>741560167How do I get the good ends on Chaos and Creation? It seems impossible. Every fight gives you a fuckton of development but how are you supposed to win without grinding the fights as much as possible?
why is /v/ so full of fake faggots now? we used to bully and tease you>nigger, you like penis. youre a faggot.Its not gay if its a futa dick.
>>741560167so is it just futas or is it gay sex as well?
What's up with the disconnect with futa? Most of the porn everywhere is futa on female, but futa on male is overwhelmingly the majority when it comes to games.
>>741569409there's 3 main routes and a bonus one that I haven't reached yet but seems to be about traps>femdom>futa>genderbend
>>741569409There is gay incubus sex if you want but you have to enabled it yourself from the hub.
>>741569656>>741569925based I'll try it out
>>741569409>turning into a womanit's trans
>love genderbender>hate tattoosChaos is unplayable for me.
>>741560167ORLY?
The scenes aren't good enough to play through the gay gacha gameplay.
>>741570683The gameplay is the best part though.
>>741560167>"I"How does the translation handle him changing his pronoun when he gets corrupted, like how in the futa route he starts using "onahole" instead of "boku/ore"?
>>741571524Degrees of Lewdity.
>>741571524>>741564734
>>741562607kek
>>741570683The gameplay's actually good. My only criticism right now would be there should be more skills and enemy types, but other than that it's a real vidya game.
>>741570130Trannies don't turn into women, they are still men, you fake chud.
>>741560167>game has difficult choices
>>741569656The "bonus route" just unlocks a new map encounter for the destruction and creation routes. You can use it to get some combat buffs too (lasts until the run ends), it will only cost you a few in-game days and your heterosexuality.
>>741572394>crossdressing lesbian
>>741571784>him changing his pronounIt's AI so it goes full retard and translates everything as "I".
>>741572394This is too gay for me, sissification is only good if there's a domme doing it to him.
>>741572394lewd...
>>741568041we're all prison gay here and it will happen/has happened to you too, why else would you be in this thread
>>741560167Somehow Artoria manages to be more masculine than this.
>>741574634Well she DID impregnate her sister
I get liking futa x female you wanna watch girl get dicked but don't want to look at guys or ugly fucksBut futa x male ? is it the case of gay enough to like cock but not enough to like men ? or just femdom going to far ?
>>741572543that one knight skill might be able to overcum them
>>741561258>>741568041what do you mean faggotry, you were always like '' i dont play h-games with a Femc because its gay'' now you can play a h-game with manly arthur and self-insert
>>741574816when the guy looks like a girl it's the same shit
>>741574816Prison gay. Femdom going just far enough. Humiliation fetish. Submissive personality. Can't actually believe a woman would like me in a normal way. Tried (solo) butt stuff out of curiosity and found it feels fucking great.
>>741562607HOLY BASED
>>741574816As someone who genuinely recovered away from the fetish and here I specifically mean futa x male, it's the heights of how far one could take prison gay appeal with futa. It's essentially faggotry-lite.
>>741574816Because at the end of the day all sex is penis centric because it's the thing that decides when the sex is over. Without a dick cumming to mark the end of it the whole thing just falls flat. This leads to a contradiction where if the man is submissive and has the only dick in the scene then the submissive drives the pace of the scene and that's just thematically wrong. In order for a submissive male to work in fiction the thing having sex with him has to have a dick for a cohesive narrative experience. This is why futa on male is the logical end point of submissive male MC games.
>too much tutorializing word word words, even if you choose easy mode>moving around the map and RPG combat very slow and clunky, time wasting>futa designs are SHIT or at least the ones in the starting areaultimately a waste of a download and my timeI just want porn
>>741574816Pegging is more fun if the dick is real.
I thought every map had a 100% chance of spawning the temple tile that gives you a choice of three relics but on my last run on the creation route the last map before the final boss didn't have it. Didn't need it to win but what a scam.
>>741575643>go on the video games board>don't want to play video games
>>741575634>This is why futa on male is the logical end point of submissive male MC games.wrongthat would be trap on trap
>>741569656I was only finding femdom enemies on the world map, is there a specific way you unlock other routes or do you just find more enemies along the way
>>741576416You are correct but the world is not ready for that truth yet.
>>741576416>Trap on trap>SUBMISSIVE male MC>two submissivesIt doesn't work. If you want the MC to be submissive, pairing him with another submissive is incredibly unsatisfying. I understand it can be a similar thrill as lesbian porn if you're interested in seeing two sissies fuck, but if you're self inserting as a submissive MC its not really hot at all. Submissives wants to be dominated.
>>741576535yes, you have to unlock the other ones first
>>741576596>trap means submissiveDumbest post I've read on /v/ today
>>741576596josou seme is top tier thoughbeit
>>741560167Fucking gross. I already have my King Arthur.
>>741577075>femalegay
>>741576596This game has trap on trap content and it works just fine.
has anyone here defeated the traps yet? that one knight skill might help
>>741577325Kissing the redhead's ass gives you a buff and I think you're meant to do it but I still haven't got even close. The combat ends before I can even start hitting. The AP debuff is brutal.
>>741577503i think it's impossible without several +ap items
is this possible on a real difficulty
>>741575643I really don't understand why people put so much effort into porn. Don't you just want to reach climax as quickly as possible? I mean yes I am a cuck I like when people fuck on my bitch and maybe that's why. But still, I just don't get why anyone would invest so much time and effort just to ejaculate.
>>741560167Faggot game
>>741568041out of 10!
>>741577967Maybe with a tyrant build (to end fights as fast as possible) or a brawler build (+evasion%), the rhinoceros relic for quick slash food farming, and getting really lucky skill gacha pulls so you don't end up with shit stats and level 1 skills because you rushed to the area boss to avoid the lewd miasma.
>guard doesn't do shit against pleasure attacksWhat a fucking scam.
>>741578735...this is supposed to be news?
>>741575634High quality post. A beacon of light in Plato's cave.
>>741562607Yeah that's about right
>>741579425Knight/Guard is already the best build in the game. Letting you enjoy longer sex fights is Peace's (only) job.
>>741572394I find funny how the game puts 3 checks before you unlock this shit, in a game where futas exist.How to the fuck is this gayer than futas?
>>741582596>How to the fuck is this gayer than futas?Anon there vagina with futa
>>741578735I'm straight and I like this game so it's a straight game.
>>741582596Futas have vaginas (and all the other nice things about girls, like big boobs) and balls are optional (on/off switch in the hub area).The femboys are really just dudes with makeup (and big asses), the first thing (you) do in their random encounter is to touch their balls (unavoidable, and the game even jokes about it), and fucking them increases your damage resistance to any lewd attacks from female enemy (even futas). And they never stop saying "[heart] lovey-dovey homo sex [heart]".
>>741560167>go for the full TF route>it doesn't matter because he grows his dick back after high enough corruption level>you can disable it but lot of the text and some scenarios will ignore it anyway>only gets fucked in his pussy at the third boss defeatwhat's even the point
Is it possible to defeat the femboys? anyone try with cheats yet?
>>741583681>"[heart] lovey-dovey homo sex [heart]".thats hot tho....
>>741577967i accidentally did this with a boxer buildit was not very fun
>>741560167play rune factory 4. I am no longer asking.
>>741574634>they will strengthen my instinctholy fuck this is old
>>741562607Amazing
>>741576416Dominant traps only work when fucking women.
>>741560167What are some good games featuring traps?Or shota
>>741587923The one in the OP and the previous game from that same developer.
>>741587923Three Charms seriesSEQUEL seriesInnocent RulesDragon Princess is HungryRJ01102919
Are tyrant builds actually good because of this?
>>741589191They're already good, that just makes going further with them even better.
>>741589191If you get it early I guess? You can't really force a relic on a run, let alone early. I haven't had much success with tyrant so far.Are there any other sources of AP regen exp besides the boss relic that gives +1 to every stat whenever you reach a map with a boss? If you get it on the first boss you'll get 1 extra AP regen on the final boss map, but any later and it'll be useless.
>>741583346>>741583681>vaginas Arthur won't remotely touch>balls, lol>tits, the incubi kinda have those too at this point
>>741560167>Holy Sei GrailHoly Holy Grail?
>>741579425I assure you, def spam with the knight and sovereign synergies is stupidly good if you just want to beat the game
>>741560167Got my first win last night. Amusing that you end up with the dragon queen win or lose, the difference is just if you end up in her harem or if you marry her>>741568352You have to build for unga bunga damage on creation route, from what I can tell. Unless there's some mechanic I missed, the second and third zones seem nearly impossible if you don't have gigadamage in your pocket. Can't tank your way through it.
>>741568352don't waste too much ap on pleasure attacks, just think it as guaranteed chip unless its a struggle movefocus on attack & defense, the starting areas you pick do matter>go into debt by training non stop, most relics are dogshit except for a few (XM9, extra slash power everytime slash is used, ap 1 slash, etc.), when you're above debt just buy items that reduce cooldown, give ap or give block are good>always go for AP recovery if possible to take on more fights as one rest = 3 or 4 AP, into 6/8 AP rather than 1 AP into 4 AP>being in A lust area isn't bad, EX is also not that bad if its the first two floors every bossfight>bank green orbs and powerspike accordingly, early game you can just spam sneak/negotiate until you get your desired build/powerspike>spam items like hell during boss fights, even stronger if you have the relic that gives you one strength per item use>damage is king, defense is queen
>>741591983My last win on creation was able to tank most attacks, I went with a hero + knight build. For the most part you can just use Cutting to block but sometimes the turns in act 3 get crazy damage and that's where Phalanx shines.
Can't wait to get this game from a source I actually trust.
>>741594056lol
>>741560167more games need to feature gay sex with twinks
>this >with diamond crownHell yeah
>>741568041I'd rather have sex with normal men, futas are gay
>>741560167>Destruction Succubi doesn't care in normal end>Destruction Succubi doesn't care in Hero end>Chaos Succubi runs away in the Hero, Corrupted, and super corrupted ending>Creation Dragon Succubi marries and impregnates you in Sissy End>Creation Dragon Succubi marries and gets impregnated by you in Hero endTake note everyone, only the Creation (Futanari) Succubi want to become your wife(baby daddy) all the others are shitters.>The Shopkeeper and Nyarlathotep allow the time loops to keep happening because they both agree it's hot seeing Arthur get fucked by everyonelol.
first try it, what's next?how do I unlock other routes?
>>741589191Tyrant builds aren't that good really, it's only a few skills - armor break, armored scales 2/3, and extra energy, but that one is an always take on all builds. Double slash bonus and berserk are situational. That's it. Random triple strike never feels worth it, double strike exhausts lol, and the turn 5+ stuff isn't even worth looking at, but you might as well go for the closest bonus.
i have futa fatigue
>>741583681>Fucking men makes Arthur gain homo-armor against femaleslol
>>741591983Lose to dragon>Marriage and impregnationWin vs Dragon (sissy)>Marriage and ImpregnationWin vs Dragon (Man)>Marriage and Impregnation (mutual?)
>>741598662just like real life
>>741598503>i have futa fatigueThis is the good futa though, not the shit futa that AI fags, WEG fags, and Muchin fags spam.
>>741596987This
>>741589191no, because sitting on sub 50% health with a bunch of skills that cost health to use and no hp recovery while the game has unblockable chip damage in the form of lust attacks makes this a poor strategy
>>741599403I fund Sovereign + Peace skills to be pretty good in most cases. I like the Peace skill that lets you life steal.But honestly the skills that let you preserve armor between turns seem really good.
>*blocks your path*
>>741599751Probably the most annoying elite succubus by far, goddamn. There's at least a trick to her that I found out, you can visibly see her erect when she's trying to fuck you, so just save AP on those turns for evades
Diamond Crown is really damn good. This was also a run where I maxed out the ascension gauge, continued and still won. Just because that happens doesn't mean that the run is over, fellas.
>>741567364It's kind of ludicrous, but this game has some of the best gameplay I've seen in years
>>741600915dick cant be that good "bro"
>>741568041>we used to ridicule and chase youSure we did
>>741560167Tried the game. Isn't this like Slay the Spire? pretty cute
KINOOO
>>741561297>gay/futa/feminizationhot, can you grow boobs?
I started on super easy mode. I will try to keep him a pure virgin
>>741601465Yeah. That's part of the chaos route.
>>741592216that doesn't get you the good end, you'll get a shitton of development/succubizationESPECIALLY if you go into debt
>>741601546very nice, lets see his puffy tranny nipples
>>741572394crossdressing lesbian sex is completely straight by the way.
>>741570675>>741574634>>741577075>Born female>Lives like a man for so long she develops body dysmorphia >author concedes that his attempts at making her femininity more believable were very forcedIsn't Saber pretty much a trans character?
>>741572394I like how this is like the longest and most heavy based cutscene in the game.Can you even beat the fembois? I remember doing literally no damage when facing them in area 1.
>>741602381Shut your fucking mouth. She never once sees herself as a man. The body dysmorphia is only her thinking she is too rugged and athletic from her lifestyle. She is perfect.This thread is so gay.
>10 runs (20~30 hours) just to unlock this>need to do it again for the other two routes>plus 1800 p-topazesThat's too much grinding for me (and my dick).
ive been following this game through development for a long time and it fucks me up how deep the combat is. also they built a whole weird gacha system for it. theres more heart in this game than in almost any others ive played for a while.
>>741560167This shit is just disgusting, I can understand when someone says they want to fuck Bill from BS2 or Fake Rabi from SEQUEL but this? you might aswell just admit you're a faggot
>>741601546it's possible in creation route too
>>741574816I am ok with it when it is a man dominating a futa. Fucking her in the vagina while telling her not to touch her dick. Futa fucking the man is just gay.
>>741603073Doesn't that only let you get boobs?
>>741603490yeah I was adding that on for the previous anon's inquiry about>can you grow boobs?
futa on male is kino if there's normal femdom stuff involved too. like facesitting/foot worship/etc.
>>741598467You unlock other routes from the get-go just by interacting with the different portals at the top of the hub area. Then when you start a run, just pick whatever color route you want to play.
>>741574816>I get liking futa x female you wanna watch girl get dicked but don't want to look at guys or ugly fucksI don't get it because that excuse isn't good enough. Our appendage means we get to die in bloody frontline combat and I'll be a chud before I accept women assuming our role that has defined us for millions of years. Men get to penetrate, it is our privilege.
>>741603751you're not actually having sex either way retard
>>741603567we got uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh mpreg i guess is that femdom enough?
link?
>>741605778he come to town
>>741605778Go to Gamelon and find my father.
any recommendations on games with a gender bender focus, it's the only reason I downloaded this one, thanks in advance
>>741608637Isle of monster girl ts
>>741608637http://knotsgame.blog109.fc2.com/
>>741609361Are there any translations out there at all?
>>741609518No, but beanjam translations have never been better.
>>741568041/d/ has existed on this site long before you arrived, I'm sure.
Just played this a bit and it's one of the better H-games I've played
>>741611590we know, OP. stop pretending to be someone else.
>>741611739OP and I may be fags but that doesn't make us the same person
>>741605778 Come back when you're a little, mmmmm, RICHER!
>>741602938>they built a whole weird gacha system for itPandora's forest also had hamegacha
Can you not mix and match the routes? What's the point of taking the female curse thing on the chaos route if everything on that route is some random slime thing
>>741614142I haven't tried yet but from the way the map choosing thing works I think you can open all routes at once, but when you choose where to go (mountain, desert, beach etc) it'll be from one route. So you could do the first act in the chaos route, then the second in creation and the third in destruction for example.That's how I imagine it works, I haven't tried it yet.
the fuck is up with that impregnation bit in the status
>>741569547I too am interested in the answer to this question.What I'm also curious about is why the majority of h-games at least the ones being discussed on this site all have you play the raped/fucked and not the rapee/fuckee. Where's my god damn Rapeman: World of Ass? Where's my chad thundercock SSSS+ rank adventurer tames hot witches and demon bitches with his penis simulator? Where's the reverse horror game where you play not-Mike Myers hunting down and dicking down hot camp counselors?Not enough futa? Fine, where's the game where you're a futa in an all female prison planet dicking down everything until the entire penal system is your harem? Where's the porn RTS where you play a race of futa savage aliens up against all female aliens who use technology against your brute strength?
>>741615634>Where's my god damn Rapeman: World of Ass? Where's my chad thundercock SSSS+ rank adventurer tames hot witches and demon bitches with his penis simulator?I mean, those games exist but they're largely for an entirely different market of people.>why rapedge instead of rapegesubs man
Not enough h games have attribute theft.I want my heroines draining other heroines of their beauty
>>741615724There aren't any lesbian lolicon games. It is sad.
>>741562607KEKW
>>741615448from what i've seen so far, on the map screen your first choice determines the type of route and then the following map screens between acts just select the different type of buff food you'll encounter
>>741582596>3 checksthat's fucked uphow do you pass the checks?
>>741615634>my god damn Rapeman: World of Ass? Where's my chad thundercock SSSS+ rank adventurer tames hot witches and demon bitches with his penis simulator?That's basically Rance.
The QWER controls tutorial when you talk to the gacha lady was funny
this game is actually kino? wtf
>>741560167Would Shirou fuck him?
>>741576416So basically that Trap Yuri Garden VN...
>>741560167What is this? Please tell me it's not some hyperfutadom weg shit?
>>741560167Sigh... I guess I'll try this. "Holy Sei Grail" seems like a mistranslation though?>>741618098Mikiya in Kara no Kyoukai loves both male and female Shiki, so Nasu would probably write Shirou to fuck femboy Saber too, he believes love is beyond genders or something especially when it comes to a larger than life main heroine.
>Play superhero difficulty>Get 0 double/triple slashes>die>Re-load save>Get 2 triple slashes>winlmao imagine playing this on a higher difficulty. stupid rng garbage
>>741618652It’s not a weg and there’s no hyperfuta either.
>>741618812>playing on turbo casual and still managing to die>bragging about this
>>741560167>femdomI can't take twink femdom seriously. Would be fine if it was a shota though.I just feel like this twink should just be raped by hairy men. It feels more natural than women doing it.
>>741569547>Most of the porn everywhereIs it? On panda and pixiv it's about 2:1, so it is more popular but not "most", but on r34 it's 5:1, so idk, society or something.
When is the 1.06 update coming?
>>741562607>Eroge for and by massive sissy genderbent faggots>They don't like bri'ish foodThanks for the seal of approval lads.
>>741620385It’s already out. It won’t work with the existing translation though, the translator has to update the translation first. As far as I can tell, it’s just a bunch of quality of life stuff, like being able to skip some previously unskippable scenes such as the second massage scene
Why is this game so hard, bros…
>>741623190It has 4 difficulties, play on an easier one.Surely you're not struggling on the easiest right anon?
>>741623261I’m playing on Succubus and I’m just getting fucked. Sometimes literally. Maybe I’ll just try the destruction route instead, is that one easier than creation and chaos?
Is pleasure attack RNG a lie in your favor? I swear I roll on 40% and get caught only 1/4 times. My first win had the final boss miss me 4/6 times around that %.
>>741623671I think destruction is the easiest of the three but I also got kind of lucky on that route and I was destroying everything while going for every elite I could from act 2 onwards so I don't really have a good idea of this stuff. Losing a few games and unlocking meta stuff is fine.
>>741560167Wrong, this is king Arthur
>>741623190It's feast or famine with relics and nothing in between, yeah. All the routes are about equal in difficulty but on Chaos some succubus traits are mad strong, so that one may be slightly less difficult.
>>741623671Chaos route felt very easy managed to clear it even when I didn't really try to win. Constantly in debt getting thrown into the glory hole mines and gave up halfway into the run to hurry on and see the last boss defeat scene but after using the surrender option where you do nothing for 8 turns and surviving I reloaded the save and killed her instead.
>>741624641The challenge is in getting the good ending.
i don't know how you guys win on succubus, escpecially on the first try, when i struggle even on easy
>>741574816It's about domming weaker males it's a case of extreme gayness
>>741568041>we used to ridicule and chase youlollmaoalso>we
>>741568041
>>741624641>Chaos route felt very easy anon, pink numbers are bad
>>741560167Japs think jousting lances were wielded on foot. Keep them away from our culture...
>>741624946So far I've only played on Succubus, I lost my first two games but after unlocking a bunch of stuff now I've won every single time. Runs are a bit too long so I don't think I'll play it much more after the 5th grail.
>>741568041>bridget>marty>boku no pico
>>741626516>mabinogi>japanese
>>741626152I deliberately got caught and thrown into the rape caves several times and if you only want to get a clear pink numbers are meaningless.
wait, can you just ignore the game over and continue on?
>>741568041There is literally nothing gay about heterosexual males worshiping futa cocks on their knees.
>>741560167I like Hero Party Must fall more
>>741627228Yes. I won a run yesterday after accidentally maxing out my ascension gauge from a massage, I continued and still won.
>>741627331That was okay until the dev went in all the way on edgy and dumbfuck story.
>>741627174The ending you get depends on those pink numbers though.
>>741627362what does it even do then? i skipped the tutorial like any real man should, btw
>>741627429Ramps up your development.
>>741627760ah. time to be a total slut AND save the world then
>>741627429The game says it gives you big penalties, I had assumed it lowered your stats but if it's just as >>741627760 says then it should be fine to max out the ascension gauge.
>>741627838Unironically, one protip I read on a japanese wiki for the game was to get captured in a cave and then eat the foods they give you for stat ups
>>741627886>>741627879>>741627429
>>741628293anyone got m-pregged by a dragon yet?
>>741628378I actually just finished a creation route run yesterday, I’ll have to do another run to see what happens when you get impregnated
>>741628387pc chads stay winning
How Do i get out of restrains/grabGame mentions if I struggle to get the restrained counter to 0. But no method was given to do so.One thing ive yet to try is to get fired up enough then evade.
>>741628668It's in Special Actions.
>>741628668Second tab at the bottom
>>741598309>The Shopkeeper and Nyarlathotep allow the time loops to keep happening because they both agree it's hot seeing Arthur get fucked by everyoneincredibly based
>>741628668Special actions and then scroll down.
>>741598309>>The Shopkeeper and Nyarlathotep allow the time loops to keep happening because they both agree it's hot seeing Arthur get fucked by everyoneTop kek. Also it’s meta commentary on what the player’s playing the game for anyway.
Yeah I think I'm gonna need more pictures of Eunhwa
>>741628751>scroll downOfcourse I wouldnt fucking see that. Im using my mouse.Ahaha fucksakes
what's the point of making a thread like that if you're not even gonna post any scenes?
>>741627331What's it about?
>>741629341ntr
>>741629386oh... ew
>>741586642where does this smug creature comes from ?
>>741629272https://files.catbox.moe/sg48dq.png
>>741628293>Can crossdress all I want.Holy Grail is LGBT ally.
>>741568041>/v/I've been here since 2004 and /v/ has hardly changed at all on this frontNow, /gif/ on the other hand..
>>741629534We may never know noja
>>741628387>pc gets the better game againsonyxisters... not like this...
>>741562607Lads, the japs are taking the piss out of us again...
>>741629757wha... what do you mean ? I am scared
>>741629341you play as a member in the hero's party. You are the cuck-er and corrupt the female members of the party. You mindbreak him so hard that you can have the option to sissify him and take him as well.
>>741629885That doesn't sound too bad, nice.
>>741629757>Tear and the Library of Labyrinthsis it good ?
>>741582596It's more like considering the themes already present in the game, the material presented really is barely different from everything else already in the game. Maybe it's a Japanese thing.
>>741630067It’s an acerola game, it’s just a damn nukige with bad gameplay. Unlike the OP game
>>741562607Is British food really that bad over there...
can I become a femboy succubi with a big dick in this game or is being sissified the only path?
>>741630469Play it and find out
>>741630469That is literally what happens in the chaos route, anon. He even gets a bigger dick than his normal femboy one.
>>741560167I guess /v/ just loves seeing femboys get fucked and married, huh
>>741631026to be fair, hakika draws quality asshole and not all girls has anal scene / blowjob scene
>>741631026I wish I liked the SEQUEL games because his art is great.
>>741631026I can't believe that it's the same protag in all of the SEQUEL games. My man destroyed pussy and bussy. He's too powerful
i just got an achievement. where are they listed?
>>741599751How the fuck do you beat her?
>>741631026you thought>sucks your dick and calls you gaywas just a silly meme? no, it's absolutely unrivaled, there is nothing better than a trap who kisses you and then calls you a faggot for liking it
>>741632310You can overpower through with air slash but you're meant to use special actions. After the second? third? turn of hypnosis you get a few special actions, shaking your ass raises your attack.
>>741632310beat her off ? With your hands
>>741632310I had level 3 goblins when i fought her, so I kinda just stalled her out after she reached 50% hp since the goblins deal some guaranteed damage every 4 turns. Make sure to save AP for evasion when you see her visibly erect, otherwise you get fucked
>>741632310you can'tjust accept defeat and take itno one can beat the hypno app
>>741599751hottest enemy in the game desu
>>741599751this would be even more kino if she findommed you too, maybe even stat/level drain
What’s the quickest way to reach futas or traps?
>>741632310Stack buffs to get your damage back (hero, sovereign and I think tyrant have skills for that), or just deal shit damage every turn and save AP for her anal attack, she will die eventually. I think you can cleanse her debuffs with items and that knight skill that turns debuffs into buffs.>>741633539I think there's an enemy that deals "money damage" with her lewd attacks in the destruction route.
>>741632310DEF scaling skills are very effective.
>>741634227>and that knight skill that turns debuffs into buffsI tried this and it doesn't cleanse her specific debuffs.
>>741634174Just lose your first run asap since it’s a destruction route run. You should start with enough pink currency to buy the purple portal and grey portal at the top and top right of the hub. Then just pick a purple area when you start your next run, futas are the main enemy and you’ll be able to see the incubi if you go to a castle. It’s a special castle icon that can show up
>>741562607at least it isn't curry. I fucking cringed when I saw pokemon using that for the food of the UK during gen 8
>>741634174Complete a run (either defeat the final boss, be defeated by a normal boss, or get fucked enough times to trigger the "give up or continue?" game over).In the hub area, buy/unlock the creation route (futas) and the inccubus encounter (traps).
>>741634396>>741634618Thanks for the detailed mini guide.The true adventure starts now!
creation is boring until area 3 where it becomes peak
>>741635130Area 2 is kino because of Schola Medici though. And the defeat scene against the boss is great too.
>>741560167>futa on malebased>feminizationgay as fuck i should be able to pin her down and fuck her pussy right after shes done plowing my asskill faggots
where's the whorehouse?
>>741631026>>741632375Gay fagsI only like femboy x female >>741635987>getting fucked in the ass by a tranny>based
>>741636089You're forced into it after getting into debt three times.
>>741629974Be warned that it goes into dark and edgy story. If you like your porn to be fun, that game ain't for you.
>>741628387ah yes the sony exclusives masterclass indeedhow do we ever recover from this PC bors ?
I knew playing in Succubus difficulty was a mistake. Stupid game thinks its serious instead of a porn game. They try to be Shin Megami Tensei here. Annoying battles.
where are you guys even downloading games like this these days? I tried subeki, but no dice. Other sites i tried have bullshit download speeds for free tier
>>741636456lel
>>741636771Cute cosplayers hand me cds
>>741636771We buy them on floppy disks in the dark market like the good old times.
>>741628387Here you go, this is more accurate.
>>741560167why do zoomers start and end all their sentences with "bro"?
I can't beat white death in her 2nd fight
>>741568041>we used to ridicule and chase you
>>741638602idk bro
>>741638269Nice work anon
Listen, whether you think becoming a dragon's wife / princess is gay or not is irrelevant.Go play the destruction route for femdom succubi or go play chaos and turn Arthur into a real girl then get shagged.And if yer ever man enough to go creation just don't fucking lose and it won't be a problem.
>>741638669Build Knight+Sovereign next time.
>>741639519Bless the Japanese and their retardation
>>741639519Some of that logic ain't logicing.
>>741639596Thanks anon
>>741639650>>741639848You saying dragons aren't the very definition of power, coolness, and manly man stuff?Need I remind you there's a whole ass thing called Dungeons and Dragons.
>>741639998anon I want to fuck the dragon not get fucked by her
>>741560167Huh? What game is this?
>>741639998Yeahh calling herself "the definition of manly man stuff" when she looks like Aphrodite with a tail is not very convincing.
>>741640170Fate Grand Order
>>741640170Boku no Pico.
>>741640170Degrees of Lewdity
>>741640084>>741640180Yer not manly enough to fuck a dragon, and that logic tracks no matter what you do.Wings like a hurricane and all that.
Man this shit is great. Just started my second run with the futas. I came bucket. Thanks for the discovery folks
>>741640170Boku no Bibbletoads of the Rebellion R3
so do you guys actually want to get fucked in the ass by demons and be a femboy, or do you just enjoy watching arthur get fucked in the ass with no self-insertion?
>>741640730>so do you guys actually want to beat ganondorf and save zelda, or do you just enjoy seeing Link beat ganondorf with no self-inserting?
>>741640730For me, it’s the latter. It’s all about degradation. Him turning from a king into a milking slave, cocksleeve or succubus is the hottest shit.
>>741640730there's no self-insertion scenes anon I checked.
>>741574816I don't know what to say for the weirdos that like futaxmale(masculine), but for this game it's futaxmale(feminine) and it's like an offshoot of corruption. Stuff in this sphere usually places emphasis on the male being feminized and ultimately ending up even more feminine than the female that just so happens to have a penis.
>>741640730Watching, at least for the demons and what not since they're a fair bit more mean spirited, save for perhaps the hypnosis boss being oddly goal oriented in a decent way.There is an abstract appeal to all the dragons since they just want loving wives to have children with though, literal semi-wholesome happy family stuff.Obviously not the first through 10th option on the list but being wholly loved by someone is always nice.
>>741641252>Scenes with the other knights are all in coloured silhouette. It's not fair bros, I want to see the knights of the widened garter if you catch my drift. I want to see Silvy ambush fuck King Arthur (the real one not a girl!!!) in increasingly tattered knightly garb.
This guy was fucked up. First it was a succubus woman who needed cum to cast sorcerous magic. Now it's a man hounded by evil succubi who want him to wear drag or may the Lord Almighty forgive me for even saying this: be -4str.
>>741639519I didn't know Hanma Yujiro was a creation succubus
>>741641585I’ve seen a scene with female Skilty when trying to sleep at night at a house area, not sure if sex can actually happen though
>>741639596Knight+Sovereign is so fucking busted it's insane.
>>741643173it's just the uh, ass end so to speak. No faces etc. How am I supposed to masturbate furiously to knightly sparring of such merriment if I can't see sir bedevere but with a cute girl face? A shame I ask you. I want to see Lancelot Aheago as I give him a lot a lance.
>>741639596What skills are core for that?
>>741643493Rockfort, Unyielding Blade, and Cutting are my priorities, everything else should focus on building up earth stacks or retaining guard between turns (Heavy Metals, for instance). You're going to be a bit low on damage, so any skills that can squeeze a bit of extra damage out on a low cooldown are helpful. Just tank the dick touches to preserve AP.
>>741641168I don’t self-insert as Link. I’m not him. I enjoy seeing his story of how he saves Zelda. Just like how I enjoy seeing Arthur’s story of how he turns into a cocksleeve.
>>741568041Your new is showing
>>741639998>there's a whole ass thing called Dungeons and Dragonsd&d is for gay nerds
>>741643720>Just tank the dick touches to preserve AP.don't forget to hang out with the boys for extra resistance.
>>741638602what you mean bro?
>>741644509Just a friendly gaming sesh with the lads.
>>741644746wait a minute...this isn't smash bros
>>741643878Fine, you gonna say Grigori is pussy shit too though?>tripfagFuck why did I bother replying.
This game made me wish that there was more josou seme content in hgames.>>741564610This made me diamonds. Hot.
Wish there was a single forcefem eroge where the protag looks like an actual twink and not an ftm tranny
>>741645132Kill yourself faggot, make a thread about your shit instead of spamming your faggotry in every single trap thread.
>>741645132your niche is a niche no one wants
>>741645376>post on /v/ for the first time in like 4 months>random schizo calls me a spammer>>741645497well excuse me for having decent taste I guess
>>741560167RIGHT IN THE POOPER
>>741564610>not farming normal kisses with both of them to maximize attribute experience before buffing yourself with magic butt kisses0/10, wasted (attribute) potential and unoptimized anti-woman armor
>>741645790>not enjoying the most rediculous thingslame. just struggle out of his grip and get back to kissing normally?
>>741560167King Arthur was created exclusively for the hopes of one day a Japanese writer would have her pussy melt in sexual acts committed by a shonen ikemen and sexy JKs
>>741645790these hags are harder than any other boss
>>741646697That’s probably intentional, they’re hard the entire fight too
>>741632383>shaking your ass raises your attack
Fuck this, I'm playing in casual. I came to fap, not to get challenged.
>>741648671it's true. Try shaking your ass right now and then punch a wall
>>741649262problem is, the casual mode is still too tedious imoh-devs need to make a "give me the porn" mode/cheat
>>741649262Why not both?
>>741649925Because I don't want to re-try a battle more than 3 times like I'm playing Etryan Odessy because I have a hard-on and I want to masturbate. These fucking battles are getting in the way of that guy getting fucked by futas, BECAUSE I HAVENT UNLOCKED FUTAS YET BECAUSE I HAVE TO RETRY THESE FUCKING BATTLES AND ROLL THIS FUCKING GACHA and I want to masturbage.
>>741560167Playing this confirmed to me that futa is gay and that futafags are just homosexuals in denial.
>>741650148This isn’t a game for a quick fap. If you’re looking for that, go get a full save or something
>>741650304Reading this comment confirmed that you are a projecting faggot.
>creation succubi are evil!With creations like this that's a hard nah dog. Hypnotist is an outright good intention with a bad methodology and dragons just want to get laid and have families same as anyone.
How do I make builds beaides hero, knight and brawler work? The rest just seem so weak
>>741652723sovreign/knight ramps hard as the fight goes on.
>>741652723Tyrant+Peace is a great fap build.>delete all the stupid monsters in one turn>fap, recover HP, fap, renewal, recover hp, fap>recover AP and kill everything else to end the fight and avoid being captured and forced to eat succubi cuisine>recover even more HP post-fight thanks to big dick RES and excal's sheath
>>741560167This is my King Arthur
>>741652723What ya mean? Peace was made for 2 synergy because it's not really designed to dump every slot with it, you could do 3/3/3 at high enough rank, you should aim to get synergies sure but nothing says you need 6 / 9 in one specific one when you could get 3/3 in two early one.If you see something like Peace's SR Q skill, it deals high damage and heals you for like 25%, then take it simply because it's strong as piss on it's own and pickup an R Peace skill since you likely won't use it most battles and boom, 2 synergy right there.You can mix and match some great shit.
>>741560167Does this game have straight content?
>>741653739Destruction route is all straight stuff
>>7416537392/3 routes are straight.
>>741653936>>741654015Neat. I fucking love straight trap porn
>>741640730/v/ is just full of a bunch of pedophiles and homosexuals
>>741650304But you played it, so what does that make you then?
>>741656081Ah, so this was ghost written by le creatavidad.
>>741656459No homo bruh, just saying getting married to a dragon that effectively turns me into a grill is a happier ending than dealing with modern women at this point.One of them has love and the other doesn't king.
>>741656730>le creatavidad.Who?
>>741656990You aren't wrong, but if I'm gonna engage in fantasy I'd rather have a girl who loves me instead, like the little sister in Menasphere for instance. I want to kiss my sister.
>>741656990>no homo, i just want a girl to fuck me in the ass with her masculine cock until im a woman so its actually straight>what? having a relationship with a woman and using her vagina? sorry bro, not happening
>>741659278Being a gay faggot is infinitely preferable to dealing with modern women. And I say that as a straight man, I wish I wasn't so I didn't have to.
how gay is this game?does the twink get dicked down by other men?does he get ORCED/BLACKED/GOBBED?by actual faggots, NOT futa.
>>741659808It's 99% futa femalesBut the prequel to this game was exactly the same, anon
>>741659808It's very straight, sadly. There are women everywhere
Any other good (not WEG) futa games?
>>741560167>holy grailChrist, shitty porn games ripping off Fate of all things is the last thing I expected to see.
>>741639519ngl, the dragon succubus final boss is the cutest girl in the game besides the shopkeeper.
>>741640170Lilith's Throne
>>741660106Lutaria/setalia
>>741659808You have to unlock the gay stuff, it's there though. Albeit it's only a few scenes
>>741643173>SkiltyIn the chaos route if you don't resist (for a long time) Skilty can rape Arthur and even has dialogue if Arthur was a virgin until now.
>>741660412>rapeAny consensual scenes?
>>741659278If we're living in a magitech universe where my literal asshole functions as a vagina AND I can have children then who gives a fuck?Frankly speaking it's a jab at modern women, they've become so insufferable that I'd compromise down to the point of being a bottom for dragons in another world.Fuck man, it's either be raped in a court of law and lose half my life here or be raped by dragon ladies and become their wife there.
It's strange to me how pretty much the only new Japanese indie / doujin games you hear about nowadays are porn.
>>741568041>we used to ridicule and chase youyeah, when? back in those r/4chan posts you used to see before the 2016 election?
>>741661085Cave Story walked so H-games can run
>>741661371but even then, back in the day of Cave Story and such the H-games were stuff like Tsukhime and FSN. Now it's just femboy futa rape simulator #5000 over and over again
>>741568041>nowretarded tourist, we used to have 24/7 trap threads and argue that sucking dick wasnt gay
>>741560167I beat the game, and I have to say it was too long for what it was worth.>Domination route has the hottest girls>Chaos route has the best opponents>Creation route had the best transformationThe author should have just smushed them all together into a single route with branching paths.
>>741649907there isgo to boundary world, go to the recollections room, hit the 'unlock all' switch, and then peruse at your leisure
This boundary world is p neat. You basically get to choose what content you want? nice to know i can turn off some things
>>741600623Violette a cute.
>>741661517There are still plenty of spiritual indies from japan or whatever you wanna call them (single A games) as they more often than not do have a publisher - Yunyun, NGO, Gnosia, Astlibra, to a T and so on
>>741662162>chaos run>get masturbation ticket for first time>violette says she'll offer paizuri for it>can't because already lost my dick
>>741663603You get your dick back at lvl 7
>>741663603Fucking kek
>>741663603The same thing happened to me. I have yet to get another one of those tickets.
>>741663603Would be funny if game was coded to give you a higher chance of getting it after losing your dick
Is this game actually good from a JRPG gameplay perspective? I love SMT 4 and Nocturne if that helps
>>741663603first world problems
>>741664959Gameplay wise it's easy mode slay the spire
>Little red riding hood enemy>She can't stuff a bomb in my pockets because I'm nakedheh. so easily defeated
>>741661085Because they're the ones that stand out from the crowd. They also get people talking about them for that reason too. Besides, we're all adults here, we can talk about adult games.
>>741664959Yeah it's good. The game isn't a pushover in the slightest, expect to get fucked on your first few runs
>>741665029Ive never played Slay the Spire. Is that good?
damn, am I really gonna try Slay the Spire because of a homo trap H-game?
>>741665662Up to you. I don't like card games, so I never played it
>>741665880i'm mostly memeing since I'd rather play on easy mode than be very strategic and methodical. But I can imagine someone who never played StS would go that route
>>741665060
>>741661085first time? Interesting Japanese indie games incidentally having porn is a multi-decade tradition at this point
>>741667685>>741661517
>>741561210>futa on maleDisgusting
>>741667746Eroge have always been aroundGay/femboy eroge too
Is the trade off of having cool ass dragons but they all want to turn me into a girl worth it though...?
>>741574816General fetish is about being emasculated by a female, like pegging. So a subset of humiliation fetishism.
>>741562607got some smartasses on the dev team.
>>741668275Swing and a miss. If anything it's a subsection of femdom.
>>741668484I think futanari is a venn diagram of fetishes.
>>741668327It's only one guy who makes this circle's games. Shiganoma
>>741562607
>>741669054I don't remember this pandora's forest.
>>741670962>idon trainee leviwhat route is this on? i haven't seen it yet
>>741671476IIRC it's from one of the bad ends, where he gets sold off
>>741671619Chaos route, one of the regular enemies in act 3
>>741628387Lmao, Pcụcks just can't stop losing.
>>741657729Kojima. I was mending because of Death Stranding, and the stories he wrote in college about dudes getting pregnant that allegedly inspired Death Stranding.
>>741672525*memeing, fuck.
>>741658647Kek
>>741645790How many stat ups can you get from them in total anyway? It’s kinda hard to survive for long against them
>>741560167>here's your King Arthur, bro
>>741673359Still more manly than the average brit desu.
>>741650148You can game over and still unlock futas
>game throwing my run because no R skills of the Knight variety
>>741675175in fact I think my first run I jobbed to the first area boss and futa route was already unlocked for free in the hub area
>>741675361>Hard R skillstell me about these
>>741673359What's funny is that Monty Python is referenced with a skill and character in this game.
>>741676581Destruction really does have the best girls despite being hetshit
Is there any way to skip the animations / sfx? I keep holding control but it only skips the text boxes
>>741678427Back to tumblr with you.
how do I get strong? I can just barely make it to the grail but not without getting raped a few times
I'm struggling so much that I'm honestly madI don't get what I'm missing Should I spam rest twice per node instead of once?Stay in zones after lust density A?Prioritise combats or events?Even getting to act 2 is a bit of a struggle And every elite succubus kicks my assThat match lady is hell in particular
>>741678465During fights I think shift does that.Also S shows your own stats and alt your enemy's.
>>741570683I unironically keep playing it for the gameplay but it is a bit complex
>>741679334I see. Does it work during scenes?
The chaos route act 3 summoning elite is the most bs difficulty spike in the game, I literally breezed through the final encounter compared to it
I nearly ripped my dick off to the josou seme scene and now i fear the rest of the game won't hold a candle to it
>>741568041this place has loved futa and traps foreverthe real problem is all the trans mental illness that has become normalized
>>741679176Relics > Elites (rest to max AP before fighting them) >>> everything else.Focus on the cheapest energy highest damage skills if you want the hero end. If you don't care about which ending you get, guard spamming knight builds are the easiest way to go, and also get into as much debt as you can.
>>741680916>Relics > Elites (rest to max AP before fighting them) >>> everything else.Neglected to say that you should just fucking leave as soon as you clear all the temples and elites. Really not much reason to stick around.
>>741681153And I should avoid elites before the first boss right?But what skills should I aim for? Besides the obvious like cutting upgrades and air slashSo far I've only made some tyrant and knight skills workLike that one that hits twice in exchange for 8 hp and the berserk strike or whatever it's calledI'm not really sure if I should go with what is offered or just bruteforce and hope for the best
>>741681483>And I should avoid elites before the first boss right?No, they're doable as long as you rested to max AP.>But what skills should I aim for?Anything low energy early on is good. There's too many moving parts, you'll have to find your own synergies.
>>741560167Is this game stupid hard or am I missing something? I tried two runs and I got stonewalled by the first boss each time. Never really feel like I'm making real progress towards a build of any kind, either. I tried synergies, but still felt weak.Guess I just need more time to get a feel for it, but I don't think I want to. It's not the gayest thing I've ever played, it's no Kingdom Hearts, but it's pretty up there. I guess my enjoyment of trap and futa begins and ends at doujins; it just feels too "personal" with a player character. Maybe I'm too straight for these homo games.
>>741682398It's not happening to you it's happening to Arthur
>>741560848>Erm, that's a tachi, not a katana>ERM AKSHUALLY that IS a katana because katana refers to any single-edged bladed weapon or even knife, even those not made in glorious Nippon, and is sometimes colloqially used for any type of sword, so there's a good chance that Excalibur would be called a katana no matter what form it actually had!
>>741683204Katana means sword, Anon.
>>741562607>British food is... LE BAD!!Sick of this fucking meme.
>dude just farm elites man they arent so bad
>>741683607That battle is impossible. Just skip it.
>>741683607You have 9 AP and Knight level 3+, surely you have Phalanx equipped?That symbol is a global damage reduction of 70%, you only receive 30% of what the game says you will get. Makes blocking big hits easy.
>>741683607>revolving slash to remove the field>kill the adds in that same turn>water bitch is basically harmless on her ownimagine being a knightkek
>>741683607what is impossible is the final boss of the chaos route where you get pummelled for 100 damage every other turn
I managed to beat the femboy duo and all you get is two random relics. I thought it would be something unique
>>741683352Bro, you got some jellied eel still stuck in yo teeth.
>>741683803I do have phalanx but it's level 1 and it doesnt make a lick of difference since I dont generate enough guard to survive until it's back upNor can I kill the water reaper or whatever she's called
>>741683938No-one's eaten that shit since the fucking Victorian era you cocksucking mongoloid plebian!
>>741683803No way your stats are that high. You are cheating.
>>741684006And you still haven't finished your reheated plate of beans from a can.
Like what am I even supposed to do manI do have some alternative skills but I feel so fucking weak I cant seem to snowball any run
It's kind of funny how the whole site is EOPs these days and it takes months for you to play anything new because you need to wait for some troon to run it through MTL for you.
>Toast sandwich
I’m so glad that best girl Chaos Worm came back.
>>741684046eat your natto
>>741684046>Shitting on beans>Staple food of most of the world
>>741684027That's the stats after winning a run, I'm not sure what exactly contributed but I feel like the hamster event early on is a big factor.
>>741672525this one?
your king arthur, sir.
>>741684154>>741684243Sorry, can't hear you over all that chewing on devilled kidneys and blood sausage. Bet you're gonna wash it down with a hot cup of greasy mashed peas.
>>741684329Yeah, that’s the one that I was thinking of.
>>741582507That looks delicious
>>741573937
>>741684329>only the female got extinct by praguelul
A friend of mine was wondering how the UK got so gay and then I pointed out they call their meatballs "faggots", and suddenly it made more sense to him. Like why you gotta set your own people up with that baggage? Why all the gay euphemism shit like spotted dick, toad in a hole or bubble and squeak? You don't have to do that shit.
>>741684651If anything this just confirms you've been gayop'd by working-class food.
>>741685395The only true bit of British working class food is a toast sandwich.
>>741683607>aoe to remove field>kill the worm turn 1 and at least wound the afanca>put up some guard and go from thereYou went in with full AP anon, you should have some options.
>>741619498How do you get the Alice outfit? I found every other outfit except for that one
>rack up debt>no big deal judas just gives me more buffs and equipment>i took it too far>now i have to work as a prostitute to earn off my debt 300 demon coins at at time>taking hundreds of pleasure damage>somehow dont gain any acensionIs debt op or what? Get free op relicsGet free op equipmentLose out on nothing but the shopYou can even shop if you keep your debt reasonable and farm pleasure attacks
>>741681483it depends i found some nice skill synergy like knight + sovereign or brawler + tyrant
>>741685508>Literally only listed because some bint wrote a book in the late victorian period for food for people too retarded to eat anything else.>99% of the discourse about sandwich is retard chefs "revolutionising" the equivalent of adult baby food and charging you 100s of British sixuppenshillings and article bait. Jellied eels are right there too. Toast sandwich is literally just a meme. I bet I'm even delicious if you tried it.
>>741683607counter attack stance is good, you can pair it with white tape(Lv 3) or general defense skill from knight or sovereign
thread has reached ascension limit. Gape your anuses. Remember to synergise.
>>741683879I had a knight SSR orb that gave me guard equal to my (max hp - current hp)
FinallyProbably gonna get wrecked in the next act though that was damn close even with two consumables
>>741686006Prostitution is OP but losing shop access really sucks
>>741686242I don't know, the shop stuff is usually shit
>>741685907It's in a chest, which is a Ruins event.
>open h-game thread>it's 99% intricate, detailed gameplay discussion\>open gacha thread>it's just ERPWhat's behind this?
>>741687002All of the H-game chads already jerked off before posting.
>>741687002actual gameplay vs auto dailies
>>741687002A perfectly good thread about to die a dignified death and you have to mention gacha at the funeral. No wonder you don't get invited at christmas.
>>741686334A selection of 6-7 relics every town is really good
>>741687434>67Just kidding good thread everyone happy masturbating.
>>741687002the only waifus in-game are the dommes, and everyone here is a sub or doesn't self-insert, so there's not anyone to ERP as