3 years ago the worst final fantasy was released
Wrong pic? That's not XV...
>>741583516And before that in 2018 the best final fantasy was released
>>741583516Squenix corporate culture precludes entry of ensouled individuals who are necessary for writing a game worth fuckall. They haven't released anything good in 20 years.
the last good FF was really X
>>741584490Contrarian cope, 14 and 16 sucked shit
>>74158478012 was good. Not on the same level as 10 but some aspects of 12 were actually better than 10. 12 was incomplete and unsatisfying, admittedly, but it gets maligned because 13 was such garbage.
Square Enix have never made a good Final Fantasy game.
>>741583516Nah it's better than 12 13 and 15 and you can fuck off if you think otherwise.
>>741583516That's not FFXIII
>>741584490fpbp
>Shit Story, the 1st 4 hours was the only "good" part, everything else is "Tell" not "show and tell">Characters outside of Clive, Cid and Torgal are bland as hell>Carried by Platinum Games and Team Osaka's boss battles>Weapon stats don't matter and barely any customization outside of sphere grid 9000 for skills, no elemental opposition>It's DMC lite>Pretends to have an "open world" with invisible walls everywhere and on rails as fuck>Fails at being an rpg because it lacks important rpg elements>Fails at being an action game because it's barebones>Producer is a fucking idiot and says no one wants Turnbased games and gets absolutely reckt by persona, smt and expedition 33 in the matter of a year
The least ambitious Final Fantasy...
>>741583516>the worst final fantasyyet
>>741583516What? XII came out 20 years ago
>>741583516XV is worse if for no other reason than because it was clearly a cobbled together unfinished mess that they didn’t know what to do with, but XVI commits the sin of just being really really goddamn boring. It’s the one mainline FF game that I can’t be bothered to buy on Steam.Honestly, I think that after the VIIRe trilogy is done, I’m probably done with this franchise, and anytime I want to “scratch the itch”, I’ll just replay the ones that I do like.
>>74158351616 was so bad that it's worse than 4 or 8?
>>741583516Anon 2016 was 10 years ago, learn to count
>>741583516It’s better than 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 13, 15 and 8 >b-but Cope the games great, it has obvious flaws but you faggots wouldn’t know good gameplay if it was thrown onto your eyerisis
Barry won...
>>741587173wouldn't that be Final Fantasy 5? it's the only FF that didn't do a single new thing unless there's another I'm forgetting
>>741583516This shit still crashes for me after the fire elemental fight
ive been playing a lot of final fantasy lately and ive gotta be honest, they all fucking suck. its a really awful franchise, but for some reason ive been feeling compelled to try a lot of them.
>>741583516XVI isn't even a bad Final Fantasy, it's just brought down by the retardedness of Yoshi Piss. XV and XIII are way way worse.
>>741587448>It’s better than 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 8How long has syphilis been ravaging your mind?>eyerisisWell, asked and answered.
>>741587497Now that I think on it, that's technically correct.FF5 is still among the greatest, but it was entirely derivative of prior FFs with no innovation whatsoever. But that's not a bad thingAmbition worked against 16, should've stuck to the series roots.
>>741584927>set gambits to attack closest enemy and heal when <70% hp>congratulations, you beat the entire gamedo people really enjoy this shit?
>>741587794>no Argument >nostlagia fag >instantly thinks of some sex disease like a Jew typical shit taster
>>741587392Minfillia was shit and it gave us Ryne so I'm ok with that one.
Trash game will forever stay trash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjXNH2Obm88At least it had a Kain reference from FF4 and pixel art of Clive on the map screenThat's turn-based enough right
>>7415848932, non-pixel remaster 3, 8, 12 and 15 are the worst numbered games
>>741587882>should've stuck to the series roots.That's been the issue past any Final Fantasy past 12.The mainlines lost sight of what people liked about Final Fantasy. People LIKE the classic tropes. People LIKE turn-based or even semi-active variations of it.
>>741587497FF5 did plenty new and really is the game emblematic of "old Final Fantasy" whenever a protagonist like Zack Fair, Laguna or Zidane that's directly referential towards "classic protagonists" shows up; really they're referencing Bartz and Galuf>fuckton of new jobs, some of which like Blue Mage became series staples>defined a lot of recurring abilities for both new and old jobs like Lancet for Dragoons>perfected the Job System to the point most games that continue using it are riffing on FF5's systems>removed FF3's penalties for use of the Job System>Gilgamesh
>>741587964It's not as simple as you make it sound. You have to reset your gambits frequently while playing through the story. And what gambits do is automate what in previous FF games was simple selections of actions from a menu. You're operating an equally simple algorithm when playing those games. There's nothing particularly more engaging or compelling about selecting the action during turn based combat than creating your own set of gambits which carry out the actions for you. And you also hear the argument "If 12 wasn't boring, people wouldn't have to play the entire game on 4x speed," but I'm fairly certain people would be playing all of the prior FF's on 4x if given the option.
I find this man's VA unbearable. I don't remember the exact lines or areas but I remember rolling my eyes a lot through FF16.I mean, it is good that it isn't generic anime but instead, it's way over exaggerated theatrekid wailing which is somehow worse
R=U
>>741588581It does come across as forced edgy man voice
>>741588581Just switch it to Japanese to avoid these cults of personality
>>741588361Job system was from FF3.The class abilities were largely expanded stuff already done in prior two games.Gilgamesh is a character, not an innovation to the series.It was iteration. Not innovation. Which is fine, we WANT that.
>>741588730
shouldn't we have seen a teaser for 17 by now? 16 was officially revealed in like 2021 I think
>>741588812I've literally started doing it when I hear the British theater troupe in every ENG translation
>>741588490>It's not as simple as you make it soundit is though>And what gambits do is automate what in previous FF games was simple selections of actions from a menuand previous ff games sucked too. but ffxii is really set up in a way that encourages you to not engage with the mechanics at all and just autoattack. while not amazing themselves, in dragon quest games you actually have room for strategy in multiple different areas. final fantasy games you literally just press attack 90% of the time then heal when needed. they're absolutely fucking devoid of strategy, or any real gameplay outside of exploring the world for that matter. and ffx doesnt even have that, so at least ffxii was an improvement in that regard.
>>741588749Job system was so heavily neutered in comparison to FF5 that it's more of a rework of the whole concept than iterationFF3 actively punishes you for changing jobs while encouraging you to do so pretty often and has objective upgrades to some jobs like Magus and Devout for Black Mage and White Mage, then Sage which renders all four of them obsoleteFF5 has 22 jobs + Freelancer, 26 + Freelancer if you count the GBA/mobile port, and out of those 22-26 only a couple actually outright suck, and ALL of them contribute towards making Freelancer a good job as job mastery is accrued, whereas Onion Knight in FF3 is kind of an easter-egg job in that it becomes the strongest if you're willing to level it to something utterly ridiculous and find some very specific equipment for it in Eureka
>>741588845Not really. Check out the later released dates for mainline singleplayer FF. Square Enix is notoriously slow these days. 7R only getting made fast because asset reuse and keeping the same team, iterating on what already exists.Final Fantasy: December 18, 1987Final Fantasy II: December 17, 1988Final Fantasy III: April 27, 1990Final Fantasy IV: July 19, 1991Final Fantasy V: December 6, 1992Final Fantasy VI: April 2, 1994Final Fantasy VII: January 31, 1997Final Fantasy VIII: February 11, 1999Final Fantasy IX: July 7, 2000Final Fantasy X: July 19, 2001Final Fantasy XII: March 16, 2006Final Fantasy XIII: December 17, 2009Final Fantasy XV: November 29, 2016Final Fantasy XVI: June 22, 2023
>>741588965FF5's job system is undoubtedly a superior job system. But it's an iteration, not an innovation.Again, that's not a bad thing at all. You don't need to throw the baby out with the bath water every single time, these things are loved for a reason.
There wont be a FF17. FF7 Revelation will be the last FF game.
>>741589084They're gonna need a new MMO eventually
>>741588969Moving on from PS2 era assets was a mistake.
>>741588654I think the problem is that he puts absolutely everything into these dramatic scenes to flex his chops but then bases the other 98% of the dialogue around staying consistent with those scenes. The result is that it never sounds like a believable person talking but always a pompous actor reading lines.Square actually tends to do VA really well, the Remake series is mostly great work except for Barrett who is similarly trying to consistently hold a specific accent too hard where it makes the character obnoxious.
>>741583516It's better than 13 or 15. Probably still bottom 5 though.
>>741589036"FF5's job system doesn't punish you for use while FF3's does" is absolutely an innovation
>>741583516I've heard the story in the game is among the better FFs. Can't say I know anything else about it tho.
>>741589145MMOs dont count.
>>741587035The game was narratively speaking "good" until the second timeskip.Yeah, the only good characters are Clive, Cid and Torgal.
>>741589271By definition noBut this seems to be one of those "I really loved this game so I'll get weirdly illogical in defending it when it doesn't need defending" kinda thing, so we'll just leave it be here.
>>741589329It's 2/3 wants to be a FF Tactics story, but the gameplay doesn't really support that kind of narrative and it throws that all out in the last 3rd of the game plus Kaiju battles.There's good stuff in there but wildly inconsistent, at least in my opinion.
>>741589535>durr it's perfectly logical to downplay how much of a leap forward it was
>>741589625What was bizarre is that even real Matsuno games have moments of fucking levity from time to time, in FF16 they almost solely come from Cid who just chews the scene every time he appears anyways
>>741589756that's not what they said
set pieces of fantasy 16
>>741587964It’s not a fucking parryslop game. There’s more to it than pressing buttons in combat.
>>741589756A leap forward sounds like an iteration, not an innovation to me
>>741587964FF is just quirk chungus when you think about it
>>741583516Lightning Returns is way older than that
>>741589084Retards think seething daily on /v/ has any power on real life kek.
>>741590538Hmm? I love the FF7 Remake games. I'm not seething. There's just no interest in the franchise from young people so I cant see them bothering to do an FF17 as the only people who will buy by the time it would come out will be in their 40s and 50s.
>Love XVI >Love VII>Hate XIV (complicated relationship)>HATE VIIRHow come there's not more of us?
>>741590743>love ff6,7,8,9,10>hate all other FF games
>>741590803>hating on 5you got problems
Even when Final Fantasy is finally dead, its fans will still be debating about which of the games were the worst.
>>741590927FF can never die. Squeenix has nothing else other than DQ.
>>741587765XIII at least looked good, and had a ton of banger tracks.
>>741591221>and had a ton of banger tracksIf by a ton you mean one then sure
>>741590274actually theres less to it than pressing buttons in combat, you literally just walk towards the enemy and automatically win; no buttons required.
>>741591031squeenix can absolutely die friendo
>>741588845There’s no way that they’ll show anything until the FFVII stuff is done and dusted. If I had my way, they’d take a cue from Expedition 33 for FFXVII, and get the director of the VII stuff on a new Parasite Eve.
>>741591551they should take absolutely nothing from E33, they're already doing their own turn-based stuff with that resonance game that's a repop of brave exvius
>>741589329It’s “Attack on Titan x Game of Thrones” for the first half, and makes you think that it might be going somewhere interesting, and then just turns into another generic “Objective: Kill God” JRPG plot in the latter half, just with a whole lot of painfully boring sidequests and really dull characters and settings. Hell, in hindsight, I think I liked Tales of Arise more than FFXVI in just about every way.
>>741584490fpbpGet fucked, Barry.
>>741583516This game is genuinely fucking awful. It actually makes me appreciate 13 and 15. Because while I didn't care for either of those, at least the world was worth delving into, and the characters could be fun. Items still had a purpose, leveling up your characters actually meant something.16 has the facade of being a RPG, because there's stats, but they mean fuck all. There's gear, but it means fuck all. There's no ailments, status effects, or buffs, nothing elemental either. All these 15 minute long cutscenes of doing NOTHING.Fucking horrid fuckin' game.
>>741590743VI, VII, IX, X, and the VIIR trilogy are the only FF games worth a shit.
XVI is better than 8, 11, 13, 14, and 15
>>741584490XV was a disappointment, to put it lightly. XVI is barely even an RPG. It's just Devil May Cry with numbers that pop up every now and then, really. It's easily the worst title Square has ever released and there's no questions whatsoever. Only FF game I've ever played where I was trying to finish it so I'd never have to play it again.
>>741591837TRVKE
>>741591837>Ignoring V againholy shit you fucking posers. also kys for liking VII R.
>>741591794Truth nuke, contrarian niggers defending 16 btfo. Yoshitpiss lost.
>>741591794dont forget torgal does no fucking damage and is basically a furry launcher, he even has a ring to boost his shit damage
>>741591782VGH, pure kino...
How come no one ever talks about FF11? Was it that bad?
>>741592034It's a MMO whose glory days are in the past, not much to talk about it
>>741587285Same. XVI absolutely fizzles out at its last third and the combat system is basically just skill spamming with no need for tactics beyond that, but fuck, at least it never feels as patchworky and rushed as XV did.There’s no way that anyone can play XV, experience the chapers beyond not-Venice and say that it doesn’t feel patchworky as hell, while XVI is more like>alright, but they could have done more with this plot point / locationwhich isn’t great, but still magnitudes better than>what the fuck are we really leaping over that and where we are now what the hell I was just collecting berries for a ”early game” sidequest and now I’m at final dungeon 3 hours later
>>741588861>final fantasy games you literally just press attack 90% of the time then heal when needed. they're absolutely fucking devoid of strategy, or any real gameplay outside of exploring the world for that matter.Nostalgia faggots really hate it when you say this but its completely true. I laughed my ass off when /v/ was making fun of FF15 and 7 remakes combat being brain dead when the older games were even worse.
>>741583516This. IMO 15 is slightly worse. But it is hilarious seeing the most obvious turd world Jeetoid BROWN niggers shilling this game so rabidly on kiketube
>>741592251at least 15 had decent characters and stats mean shit
>>741592034>MMONobody but PC niggers care.
>>741589625I just hated it how the early game ”conflict of Empires” intrigue stuff gets thrown out like an used cumrag once the story enters its final third. Hardly feels like a satisfying conclusion to those points that were first built up for dozens of hours, and doesn’t help that the le ebil god is extremely boring in this case.
i only played the demo but its better than gridshit like tactics
>>741591948>Likes V>Doesn't like VIIRincel
>>741587448Irises? Holy fuck ESL moment.
>>741585052I spent a minute going through all of the FF games I played, and you are right. What a shocker.
>>741587794ESL >>741587964You don’t have to tell us that you’re brown >>741591794Truke
>>741592451It cracks me up that autocorrect fixed it. I wonder what jeet phone he's using that hasn't been updated to utilize autocorrect. Slimer over there still using a flip phone.
>>741592034>mmovomit emoji
XVI has the best combat in the series by far, the starter difficulty just doesn’t make use of it which is an awful decision on the development team. The majority of you people are just terrible at games Top 5 FF games are 7,9,10,16,Tactics
>>741588581Ben starr is my husbando and I wont have you speaking ill of him. Man is gorgeous.
>>741592449retard
SquareSoft goodSquare Enix badalways and forever
>>741592195>>741588861Very telling turnbasedfaggots ignored these posts. Terrified.
>>741584490>piss is better than shit
>>74158478013 was good. no i wont elaborate, if you cant appreciate lightning thats your problem.
>try the demo>80% of it is just cutscenes>do some research>apparently the rest of the game is also like that>give up on buying itI like dark fantasy, i dont mind the Game of Thrones lite story, but my brother in christ, this is a video game. Where is the gameplay?
>>741583516It's impossible to discuss this game on this board. In a few years though, just like with FF12 and 13, we'll see a critical re-analysis of 16. And you'll see plenty of threads and video essays like "Final Fantasy XVI: Better than You Remember".
>>741596990FF13 revisionism showed me that any piece of complete dogshit can suddenly be considered good.
>>741591756Arise for all its shit at least has the bones of a tales game with party jrpg gameplay and skits. XVI uproots any and all tradition to chase percieved market trends. It has the FF name only because they can't justify pouring that amount of money on a no name new IP.
>>741592034Great story, UI and general experience was already dated at the time it came out, simply did not make the splash that FF14 later would
The sad truth is that anthology series have no place in the modern world, all successful games are live-service/play as you go/season games like warframe, poe 2, d4, and gacha games. Anthologies require more effort than they return now. Thats why elder scrolls 6 is vaporware and gta 6 will probably be the last gta game.
FF16 is a good game. it's just not Final Fantasy, or even an rpg.FF12, 13, and 15 are just fucking dogshit games.
>>741592034It's safer not to talk about it due to ffxiv cultists.
>>741597813what is Final Fantasy? you can't even fucking decide that
>>741583516>"IT'S NOT FINAL FANTASY!!! WHERE'S CLOUD AND SEPHIROTH?? I DON'T UNDERSTAND I DON'T UNDERSTAND!!!!"
>>741584490FPBP 16 is kino
Looking to play the Final Fantasy games I haven't played yet. I haven't played:123515 (I have this on PSN as I got it when it was on sale for like 5 or 10 bucks with all the dlc but I still haven't played it yet)16 (Its on sale right now on PSN for 30 bucks with all the dlc and I think the base version was added to ps plus so I might just sub to 1 month to play it)I played all these other ones:4 - PSP version6 - SNES version7 - PS1 version8 - PS1 version9 - Steam version10 - PS2 International version12 - Steam version13 - PS3 version7 Remake - PS4 version7 Rebirth - PS5 versionCrisis Core - PSP versionIs the pixel remaster version of FF5 the best version of FF5 to play? What's the best version of FF3? Is it the pixel remaster version or the 3D version?
>>741584927>>741585103>>741589269>>741597162>13 is bad because my favorite Youtuber said it! Pineapple doesnt belong on pizza! I am not a sheep! By the way I love every genre but rap and country! Nickelback is the worst! Coldplay is gay! So original and brave! Anything else you faggots want to regurgitate?
>>741597847Im more familiar with what Final Fantasy is than Square Enix is.
>>741597836>we can't talk about FFXI because of DIFFERENT GAME'S CULTISTSSSSSS>>741598056Best version of 3 is Pixel Remaster, best version of 5 is Pixel Remaster with a difficulty restoration mod or GBA with a sound restoration mod.Play the "3D remake" or DS version of 4, too, they beefed it up into an amazing game. There's a reason Steam kept it as a separate thing even after PR replaced all the old mobile ports.
>>741598159answer the question lmao
>>741598239won't and can't, final fantasy is whatever the fuck the developers want it to be for that game
I want a FF14 dating sim.
I thought FF16 was pretty fun but I played it the same way I play all the shitty ones like X-2 and ignored everything except the gameplay. It was no Stranger of Paradise, but it was alright.
CB3 understands Final Fantasy more than any other studio..
>>741598591the gameplay is the bad part of 16..
>>741598936>I'm a giant faggot who can't play video games
FFXVI is the only one in the series that has an explicitly gay couple, yet its haters are the actual faggots.
>>741584780the gameplay of every turn-based JRPG, including FFX, is dogshitthe atmosphere alone can't carry a video game
>>741598936FFVII will never be a good game, Max
>>741595867I cant even remember why everyone hated her so much.
>>741595867Toriyama, you have to let her go. She'll never be real
>the bull said he doesn't like FF7Remake...
>>741583516FF3 was 36 years ago
>>741599042They were mad that the game wasn't "diverse enough" even though he gave a very logical explanation about transportation in a world without planes(airships) and the demographics that would be typical.
I actually thought uematsu made this track since he was credited as tje composer. Seems soken rearranged the ff9 pandemonium and preludehttps://youtu.be/8WEKeEpozsE
>>741584490Yup, 16 was a disappointment, but at least it feels like a complete game. 15, on the other hand, was a disaster from start to finish.
>>741598201Just saw now all the pixel remaster games are on gamepass. Will probably just sub to a month of that to play them all.
>>741592034because it's an old-school MMO with a big barrier of entry, if someone was invested enough to play 1 to 10, they probably don't feel like switching genres just so they can play 11 and then go back to single player for 12 and 13.
>>741600006>16 was a disappointmenthow do you go through life with a brain as smooth as yours, Max?
>>741600034If you think you'll beat all of them in 2 months, makes sense. Otherwise the entire bundle is on sale for 45 USD on Steam which is 3 months gamepass. In the US at least.
>>741600231I said it was a disappointment, I didn't say it was a bad game.>MaxWho?
>>741600231nta but why are you obsessed with an e-celeb's opinion on a game?
>>741592034I tried it for a bit a few years ago and hated it
>>741587312There's nothing wrong with 4 and I'm tired of pretending there is. The pacing is fine, the characters are good, the music is iconic, there's novel mechanics, challenging bosses, and unique skills on each character. Contrarian niggerfaggots only complain because it's hip to do so and they lack the personality required to like things publicly.
>>741583516My favorite part was when Mr. Fantasy slashed God in half, then looked at the camera and said>This is your Final Fantasy
>>741584927No its the opposite, people look back on 12 fondly now because of how bad 13 was. It should thank 13 for that.
>>741598936>but my other final fantasy games where I mash X to attack for 40 hours is good
>>74160092413 was not bad at all and you're a retard sheep
>>741597929>>741599852>eceleb poster doesn't understand what's wrong with 16
>>741600924There's a bit of that too. They are different dynamics. My model of Squenix's soul arc looks like picrel. I consider 13 a big step down from 12, but 12 was only a bit less kino than the golden age. 12 was the beginning of the forever decline, but it still had a lot of the golden age sauce
12 sucks man. The gameplay is complete aids mmo type shit and the party members all suck.
>>741583516Does it run well on 'eck?
>>741601471Actually I drew it wrong, I think most of the early games have more soul than 13. But I do think 13 has more soul that 15, which has more soul than 16 weirdly, even though 16 tried to have more soul than 15
>>741587964You can't complete the hunts with this strategy
>>741583516say what you will this is modern entry for people that don't know a thing about jrpg to get into older jrpg and just with that you fuck everyone in the process you rike!?
Not having a party made this game come across like a spin off. I dunno what the fuck they were thinking not having actual party members.
>>741602008yoshi piss
>>741584546That game sucked ass.
>>741583516I liked it much more than XV
If it was turn based it would have been way cooler. The main flaw with the game was the side questing literally being straight ripped from XIV. They actually had the gall to put the worst part of XIV into the game. I tried really hard to pay attention but its the first time I started skipping all the side quest dialog. What a waste of writing.
>>741604039The main problem with the game is Ultima
>>741583516I feel like if you need to make multiple threads daily (all of which die before even reaching halfway to bumplimit due to lack of interests) screaming that this is the worst game ever because you feel there's an urgent need to spread the message, the thing you're trying to say doesn't quite ring true.
>>741583516Nah, that's 13 or 15. Take your pick.One was egregiously unfinished (and that which was finished was shit) and the other was so offensively bland and mediocre people lost faith in the FF name. Then they made 2 more games to really beat the dead horse.
>contrarian nigger still trying to defend xviPathetic
>>741607385Unlike 15 or 16, 13 was actually widely hated during its heyday.
>>741584490FPBP>>741583516uh oh bazzy melty>>741598154>no towns>hallways>less grass than a wii game>automated combat>mid castOnly good thing was graphics and some music.
>>741598154>13 is badTrue>Pineapple doesn't belong on pizza!Untrue. Pineapple on pizza is great.>I am not a sheep!True.>By the way, I love every genre but rap and countryMostly true. Rap is trashy nogbabble, and most country songs just don't do much for me.>Nickelback is the worstCan't say I've listened to a lot of Nickelback, so I don't care.>Coldplay is gay!Yes. But also good on occassion.
>>741598154Retard I went to the midnight release and I'm still depressed and refuse to trust games due to it. Fuck you. It harmed me mentally more than my mom being killed. I'm still traumatized by it like 16 years later. 13 is the worst game ever made in my eyes by far and I'm not joking. I literally have never pre-ordered anything since. So in a way I guess square taught me the most priceless lesson of all.
>>741583516Final Fantasy Resonance isn't out yet.
>>741607815I mean it actually has been on mobile for years though
>>741588845Probably isn't even being made until they finally fart out KH4 thanks to Kiryu's cuts
>>741607735What'd you think of 13-2 and 13-3?Cause one piece of shit wasn't enough.
>>741607869I actually thought 13-2 fixed a lot of issues that 13 had. I refused to play it for like a decade though. Got it for like 1.99 on Xbox 360 after ps4 came out and played it and enjoyed it, then played 13-3 and thought it was okay but quit like an hour before the final boss. I enjoyed the majoras mask aspect and the fact that it basically had nothing to do with 13 at all. Same with 13-2. Was basically kingdom hearts between the male lead and CHAOS
Remember when the mmo tards were talking about how that asshole was saving the series
>>741595867>13 was goodIt's not a bad game, but 13-2 came out later so technically that's the last good one
>>741608042Still true. The MMO is a big chunk of keeping the rest of the company afloat, even during lulls.
>>741607869>>741607975Yeah 13-2 is legitimately a good final fantasy game especially by the standards of the recent ones. Memorable villain, monster collecting mechanic, a fun implementation of time travel that lets you do some chapters out of order and also visit alternate versions of the same area as you change history.Lightning returns is an enigma that I had a lot of fun laughing at, one of the main plot points is that Lightning has lost her emotions and somehow this will make a big difference which is hilarious
>>741583516I still remember all the stupid fucking shills trying SO HARD to make it seem like people thought this westernized pos was good, reminds me of faggot RE remake shills.
>>741608313>Yeah 13-2 is legitimately a good final fantasy gameLARP.When someone shovels shit, then shovels more of that shit, even if that shit is mildly better than the first scoop, I'm not gonna say "thank you for the slightly less shitty shit"Any game that is garbage and then has the temerity to shart out two bonus entries rather than having the good grace to fuck off can burn in the pits of vidya hell.
>>741584490>tfw ffxv came out almost 10 years agofuck...
>>741583516I don't think I disliked any mainline Final Fantasy, they are all good. :)
>>741584490fipperdebipbippitybippyboo
>>741583516Boomer has-been franchise. Who cares?
reading a lot of coping
>>741595867Did this game really needed 2 sequels?
>>741583516Meh, I had fun. Though I was never a Final Fantasy fan growing up so that may explain why I enjoyed it. The lack elemental damage was beyond retarded however.