This is genuinely one of the most boring games I've ever played. I've never played a game where literally nothing happens for 30 hours. I want to drop it but I'm 40 hours in and don't want to feel like I've wasted my time. The only story revelation that has happened in 40 hours is that they were conducting experiments with time manipulation on the island. 40 hours, and that's the entire story so far. This is the worst jRPG I've ever played, and I'm never touching another Atlus game again.
I'm replaying P3:FES right now.Gonna play this, P3P, and then reload, then go through some of the persona side-stuff I never managed to get through. I love persona.
>>741596050I NEVER FELT LIKEDA-DAH, DAH DAH DAH
You've posted this thread for the past few days now.Just stop playing if you can't get it.It's not your fault you can't enjoy a game we all love, so don't take it so personally.Not all of us are meant to play video games.
>>741596487>It's not your fault you can't enjoy a game we all love>weWho?
>>741596050P3FES is peak uncslop>NOT BEING ABLE TO CONTROL YOUR PARTY IN A TURN BASED GAME IS... A GOOD THING!
The game is supposed to be relatively mundane for 70% and then ramps the fuck up during the final months. It's only boring if you don't like social sim and dungeon diving, it wasn't until P4 onward that things were happening almost all the time. The ending months wouldn't be anywhere near as effective as they are if the early parts of the game were jam packed with story, the melancholy is part of the experience.
>>741596607imagine playing a persona game for the combat holy shit
>>741596607>im not getting all the talk about how i am only responsible for my own actions and how our team isn't used to fighting together.... can i just have the game be really easy so I never struggle?Again, not all of us are made for gaming. You gotta find another hobby, bruh.
>>741596641Shouldn't have to wait 50 hours for a game to get good. FF7 is 40 hours long. And the social links are boring as fuck
>>741596706>imagine playing a persona game for the combat holy shitCombat makes up like 65% of the game. It has to be good.
>>741596902Stop playing it and stop talking about it, it's fine. You don't have to obsessively make threads about how boring something is, just stop playing it and do something fun.
Yep, I know. Main complaint I have with 3 is the horrid pacing. You'd think in the remake they would have fixed it, but nope lmao. And 'fans' still lapped it up like the sheep they are.
Persona 5 genuinely does have the best story out of all the modern Persona games by sheer virtue of the fact that stuff actually happens in it
>>741597145>me reading this take
>>741596902>for a game to get goodLike I said, it is good if you like every day life social sim and dungeon diving. The story is just intriguing background at first and comes to the foreground later on, all done on purpose to craft a whole experience. It's not a game for everyone, but it's still the most impactful and deliberate Persona game ever made, even considering the ones that came before it.
these people are legitimately trying to force Persona to remove its primary gimmick and selling point because they can't handle not having a massive story moment every other hallway
>>741597145I didn't play because it looks like a fancervice for zoomeritans, safe horny, safe edgy + temu Harry Potter
>>741596706imagine playing a video game to play
>>741596050Your fault for trying the inferior version to Reload.
>>741597526Reload is the exact same pacing and story
>>741596050I MADE THE THREAD AGAIN GUYS
>>741597526I dropped reload after an hour because it's too bright and this misses the edgekino vibe the original had.
>>741596419I never felt likesome mental levelI never felt like thinkin thats for high school weatherI gangster rap meyou better tell me you can cowbell over me
>>741596050Doesn’t this game punish you with ‘fatigue’ if you spend too much time on a dungeon run? I like how reload let me clear over a dozen floors in one go.
>>741597335>because they can't handle not having a massive story moment every other hallwayJoseph Anderson has done irrevocable damage to the "fanbase" of this series, as entertaining of a streamer as he is. So many people just mindlessly regurgitate his criticisms like they're objective and not mostly subjective because he's an ironic weeb.
Oh sweet a P3 thread.
>>blah blah blah *cock slorping sounds*Didn't read OPposting best girl instead
>>741597707What the point? Ignore the gameplay? The balance of day and night life was a point
>>741596050i don't even know why i didn't like it. i played person 4 first and had a good time. tried persona 3 for around 6 hours and didn't like anything about it. then really enjoyed persona 5 and metaphor which are them same kind of game
>>741597707Original and FES were very much designed around you going to the dungeon much more often. It wasn't until P4 where dungeon visits were moved to daytime and you were encouraged to make as few trips as possible if not one shotting each dungeon.
Didnt play p3p but I love this song so muchhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpo61azoYE&list=RDGCpo61azoYE&start_radio=1
You start following your school schedule while balancing Tartarus exploration at night.By the mid point, the stakes have increased and now Tartarus is of prime importance.By the end, nothing matters because everyone is gonna fucking die no matter what you do... but you still have to keep to your school schedule and Tartarus exploration.The game is about going through this journey and trying to keep to your routine and responsibilities while simultaneously trying to save the world.
>>741597707There's no sleep mechanic in Reload? Holy fuck it must be even more boring then. The sleep mechanic is one of the few interesting gameplay mechanics
They're anime highschool simulators, what did you expect?
>>741598196There's nothing mechanically interesting about fatigue. It's mostly there for immersion.In all my playthroughs of the original and FES I only have one good memory of it.
>>741596607I'll never understand thisI loved actually commanding my teammates in p3. I had to do dungeons solo sometimes in p5 to actually feel like I'm having a challenge I also love the added difficulty and mystery of what the party will do >member gets poisoned or knocked out >tension rises so I have to figure out a way to beat the shadow with a slight disadvantage >win>victory feels more rewardingdirect party control feels is baby easy mode
>>741597707its only relevant like the first monthI remember being in dungeons for hours and leaving when I got tired or ran out of sp
>>741598698Its not just about the challenge, tactics are just a more interesting way to play a jrpg.Planning out a whole round in advance, and learning how each of your party members respond to a given tactic or situation is far more interesting than 'race to get an AoA ASAP' that P4 and P5 had. Now P4 and P5 had way better boss fights, but their dungeons were just way more boringI don't mind direct control as an option, just give me the old tactics systems on top of it. I tried to play with tactics, but the AI in 3P, 4, and 5 are just garbage compared to 3 FES
>>741598698P3R with good AI options on par with P3 original would be nice, they're just not committed at all to bringing that back. P4 onward the AI was not workable whatsoever. Except for a few quirks, P3's AI is really good at doing the things you want it to if you actually engage with the command system.
>>741596706That is so not the own you think it is.
>>741596607i just for the fucking life of me cant fathom how people dont understand how to use the tactics system
>>741600057>tactics are just a more interesting way to play a jrpg.I DISAGREE.They're lame. It's just turn-based combat with an RNG component. Will your party member do something useful or not? Who knows!
>>741600981There's something neat about doing your turn as MC and then sitting back and letting things play out for the other three members. Not every battle system can pull this off well but P3FES was the only time I could accept the vision.
>>741597780>>741597814woooooo!
>>741600981The characters progressively becoming less useless and retarded as the game goes on ties in thematically with everyone's growing comradery. They begin to trust you more as a leader and thus are less privy to doing their own thing. I know most gamers aren't used to story and gameplay weaving into each other so effortlessly, so I understand the confusion.
>>741596716>sacrificing gameplay just for the themes of the non-storyjust have the game be a fucking movie and get it over with. There's no reason for it to be on this board when it basically "plays" itself
>>741597707you can always get to the gate in 1 night and there are multiple ways to deal with fatigue and play around it, it's cool. you also don't need to grind until the last section when all the characters get serious which is also cool
>>741601337Changing tactics on the fly is gameplay. It's no different than giving orders in a tactical squad based shooter.
>>741601217Wrong, they're pretty fucking shit and will regularly pass turns even when set to the correct tactics for the situation and make horrible calls. It's frustrating, slow, passive and was a dogshit decision. I'm glad we have manual orders back and I don't care if you're a little pissbaby over it.
>>741602489You're literally just wrong, that shit doesnt happen unless you give retarded orders. People meme the Marin Karin spam but I never had that problem. People are just bad at video games.
>>741596706If you're not going to play a Persona game for the combat then you might as well just watch all the social links and cutscenes on YouTube... which most Persona "fans" already do...
>>741602489>and will regularly pass turns even when set to the correct tactics for the situation and make horrible callsWorks on my machine, outside of the very occasional Marin Karin throw from Mitsuru, but I just benched her anyways because she sucked ass. Yukari, Akihiko, and Junpei almost always did exactly what I wanted them to do when tactics were correctly set. Ken and Koro were always jank because they're from a time period when light and dark were always instakills, that's an actual problem.
>*Emulates Persona 3 FES but adds the mod that enables manual control of party members*Fuck you gon do bout it?
>>741602552>>741602690>Yukari refuses to ever use Mediarahan when the whole party is low on HP, only single target heals.>Junpei summons persona to attack a tetrakarn'd target.>Aigis WILL NOT use buffs at all outside of story bosses/reaper. Even on floor bosses she'd rather pass turns.Doesn't matter what tactics I use they're just fucking useless. Played FES 3 times, mostly just solo'd with my party being worthless backup. Reload was way better. I'm glad P4 and on dropped it for manual.
>>741598698>direct party control feels is baby easy modeIt shouldn't need much more than minor rebalancing for it.You don't need complex tactics for the AI companions to actually make good decisions, so conversely, giving that control to the player shouldn't matter all that much either.The problem is that it's just frustrating when an outcome of a battle is decided by the AI diceroll of your own ally. Even if it adds tension, it doesn't add anything to the gameplay, it's not something the player could particularly predict or play around, but it is punishing. Punishing design decisions like that should be thought about very carefully when they're implemented into games, and only really do it when there's something gained. Here, it just means your other party members are less useful.
ITT people whine the game won't play itself for you.
>>741602748Amateur.>plays the mod on a real PS2
>>741602848Were you playing on Hard, or something? Playing on normal I never had an issue with Yukari's healing if she was set to that tactic. I don't want to just jump to saying you're making shit up so you can be mad, but that's what it's looking like here unless you were playing on Hard, it's a very unbalanced challenge and the tactics tend to not compensate for that.
nothing fucking happens leading up to and after you go to the island. even if you like p4 less, it's pacing is like 10x better, there's an establishing cutscene like every other day.compare it to p3 where you'll go 10-15 hours without anything during some stretches of the story. i don't even hate the game, it's the most cohesive of 3-5. it's just boring as hell if the gameplay isn't enough to hold you over.
>>741596641>It's only boring if you don't like social sim and dungeon divingThis. I wouldn't have been held in by just the dungeon stuff because it's somewhat stressful, but the game being balanced out so you get to spend the other half of your time hanging out in a city and going through fake japanese school was plenty of entertaining for me, certainly enough to keep playing.
>>741601094look at her go!
>This is genuinely one of the most boring games I've ever played. I've never played a game where literally nothing happens for 30 hours. I want to drop it but I'm 40 hours in and don't want to feel like I've wasted my time. The only story revelation that has happened in 40 hours is that they were conducting experiments with time manipulation on the island. 40 hours, and that's the entire story so far. This is the worst jRPG I've ever played, and I'm never touching another Atlus game again.
>>741596641I dont get the pacing hate for p3p4 and p5 pacing were ass too p4 being almost worse
>>741600057I wish the ai was better in p4 and p5fags can keep their direct party control but give tactic lovers their fill too
>played fes years ago but forgot most of the story>pick up p3r its pretty good>get a new teammate that basically crushes everything>put all my resources into getting him the best equipment >suddenly he fucking diesWhy man, he was the literally me character as well.
>>741606062you can get his shit back from his room nigga (at least in fes)
>>741596050It's actually painful to play
>>741596050nah it's okay. I've begun playing last week. Fusing personas is fun. The social grind is a bit boring but the story bits are fun.OPERATION BABE HUNT
>>741596050Every Persona game's story is tl;dr teenagers kill god to save the world.You're supposed to play them either for the fusion system to create your perfect overpowered class, or for the high school mini stories (ie. social links)
>>741600973marin karinmarin karinmarin karin>boss at 3 hpmarin karin
>>741606443did you know maya and tatsuya are references to persona 2??? xD
>>741606596ya the persona games would be a lot better if they had a better story like there was a gang war and you fight druggies and corpos for REVENGE that would be wild. Finally a mature story for mature people like myself, this gay mythology shit makes no sense.
>>741606062There's no way you forgot about that particular thing. Also, it's so easy to get characters up to par level in Reload that you could use him through the whole time you have him and still have everyone at his level or higher.
tying the character progression of the main characters behind social links was the stupidest thing ever and 3 was the only one that got this right by making it a main story thing
>>741606968Having your party's Personas evolve in the story was way more exciting than in social links.
>>741607113yeah big time and it avoids the disconnect of a character still acting like their pre-progression self during story cutscenes even after youve maxed their social links
>>741606968>and 3 was the only one that got this right by making it a main story thingThis. Everything you needed to know for basic character motives was provided by the story, and doing the links just rewarded you with more particulars to really help you appreciate with them. Yukari in particular is the absolute peak of this main story vs. link structure, you know she has a complex with her dad and that gives you what you need to know about her in essence, but doing her link rewards you with the gritty details as to why she's so shit with guys and why she doesn't live with her mom. Also contextualizes her meltdown in The Answer, she's handling the death of MC just about as well as her mom handled her dad's death. Nothing has been done as well as Yukari to this day.
>>741596536>Who?me
>>741607234it really irks me when people call yukari a bitch because she wasnt dickriding the mc from the word hello. 3c was a weird autistic mute that everyone slowly warmed up to and it made the unity everyone has by the end of the game feel genuinely earned. it sucks all the later games just turned things into friend simulators where everyone's life revolves around you and how awesome you are
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>>741607457Yukari isnt ever even mean to MC either. She's only ever mean to Stupei
>>741607631deservedly so
>>741596050I wish this nigga would stop calling me. I don't care about your dead aunt you french weeaboo faggot
>>741608192yo is that the p6 mc???????
>>741596050should have played reload instead
>>741608492reload has the exact same pacing bruh
>>741608540not reallyif you don't find the original visually stimulating enough, you are basically the target audience for reload
>>741607457Yeah, Yukari (as well as the other girls) will actually give you shit if you mess around too much, especially considering the broken link mechanics. Say things she doesn't like and act like a typical guy she doesn't like? She gets put off, even if she apologizes later for being harsh. People's hangups about her "unreasonableness" are a direct result of them picking dialogue options that they should know full well would piss her right the fuck off, in particular that scene where she tries to pick a fight with the guys and you save her. Like, she just told you in the last fucking rank that she wants to handle things on her own and doesn't want you to treat her differently just because she's a girl, so of course these lobotomy patients pick that dialogue option and get mad when she loses her shit and the link gets broken. Actually pay attention to what she says and don't pick the hilariously obvious bad dialogue option, and she apologizes for being harsh on you the very next rank and admits she has problems. Like fuck man, I'm not even close to being good with women, and even I didn't get filtered by that.>>741607631Most she ever does to you, outside of when you say things that piss her off, is tease. She even admits later on that most of what she says to Junpei is just her being rough with him, she actually comes to love the guy as a friend and never really hated him. She's just a bit of a troll.
>>741608934you should NEVER enrage coomers for trying to coom in your jrpg
