jesus christ
>>741598171Top: SOVLBottom: Soulless
>>741598171SOUL vs SOULLESS
>>741598171
>>741598171>>741598228>>741598245faggots>>741598370BASED
>>741598171what about him?
That exact scene was when I knew I would not enjoy the game. Those symbols always perplexed me as a kid when I first played it, I always wondered what they were measuring or whether it was meant to be confusing to the characters too. So, this scene was the first thing I thought of when starting a new game. After that point I knew right away what I'd end up seeing: A "remake" whose authenticity is attempted only as far as character design goes. It's a real shame, there were some bits that I liked about it.
>>741598315McDonalds kids from 30 years ago grew up and demand an adult dining experience now.
>>741598813Despite the AI that's still a tremendous improvement.
>>741598813>soulless vs soullesser
cyberpunk 2077 does midgar better than ff7r
>>741598171I only play FF7 with the Beacuase translation. I will not play the remakes.
>>741599095Cyberpunk looks nothing like Midgar
>>741598171How did they fuck up the entire theme of midgar?
>>741598171top: uncslopbottom: zoomkino
>>741598813By the time UE6 comes out AI will be advanced enough to just make the orignal game with assets from the 3 demakes.
>>741599407that doesn't look like midgar
>>741599869This is pretty accurate to the original intro. Midgar is a mix of old world and new. Old paved streets and lamps, 1950's cars, etc. You can hate on the remake all you want but they got some parts right.
>>741598960There is no pleasing you. Fucking contrarians.
>>741600373These people have all the time to complain and never to appreciate. They're not even honest with themselves.
>>741600421you're getting there i can almost see the soul
>top>ugly low resolution shit with random nonsense on the walls>oh boy I can stare at the ų nixie tube which tells me nothing about what floor I'm actually fucking on because its CYBERPUNK>bottom>what an actual elevator looks like>complete visual clarity >nothing confusing or unnecessary distracting youBottom is better, trannies and unc can keep coping.
>>741598813>still just standing around aimlessly in a boring manner instead of exaggerating their anime poses and expressions in the anime game in an anime franchiseIt's shit.
what does the μ button do?
>>741601174>when they're doing anime pose in the og it is soul>when they're doing anime pose in remake it is bollywood
>>741600421Your crt filter?
>>741598376Bottom looks like fucking garbage, seethe
>final fantasy will always be stuck in regressive psuedo photorealismThis is LITERALLY what the Aerith should have looked like in game.
>>741600456No amount of cope will make Reeeemake even halfway decent
>>741600456Why would I ever try to have a nuanced discussion about this game? Especially on this board of all places? The second you say something someone doesn't agree with they will focus on that while ignoring the rest of what you have to say. The FFVII fanbase is unironically an insane cult on both ends and an absolute black hole of honest discussion.Don't like something from the remakes? >Damn! You must have wanted a 1 for 1 exactly as is remake! Go play the actual game if that's what you want! Say something positive about the remakes?>It's slop. It's worse in every single way! There is absolutely nothing that can be improved or fleshed out in any way. You are just retarded cattle It's fucking insanity. FFVII fans get what they deserve, which is a fanbase full of schizos and deranged shippers
>>741601405>Anon 1 posts an image and post why it is accurate>Anon 2 just replied "doesn't look like it"Yeah nice nuanced discussion you have.
I just wanna show yuffie my thingy
>>741600421>uTorrent
>>741601583I'm saying I'm not going to go out of my way to say anything nuanced. Why would anyone else?
>>741598171we can't make the elevator look detailed because the playstation can't handle that and we need those wetback spic dollars
>>741601405you faggot go have your nuanced discussions on /lgbt/ then
>>741598171yeah, this is why I will never in my life play the bastardized version.FFVII is a video game that came out in 1997,I played it, it was perfect, I will forever hold it in my heart and that's it.I don't want anything to mess with my understanding of FFVII
>>741598315MCDonald in the US doesn't have self serve fountain drinks anymore because of "Changing Consumer Habit".And even in the building you would receive your order through small hole in the wall or counter served by a single worker that is away half of the time.
This board says "GAMEPLAY IS KING, ONLY GAMEPLAY MATTERS" then defend an outdated game with shit gameplay over a game with better gameplay cause the background details didn't meet their standards of the oldslop
>>741599095Just like PS1 FF7 and remake FF7, you don't get to explore the upper plate.
>>741599869Don't be retarded. Once you enable HDR, even the lighting matches.
>>741601890Rebirth doesn't have good enough gameplay to carry an 80 hour long game (15+ hours of cutscenes)
>>741602064Wrong.
>>741602064(you)
>>741601349No we need to spend 500,000,000 USD on photorealism and we need 15 year development cycles
>>741602105Jerking off to mods doesn't count as gameplay.
>>741600456That's because they have been raised on the idea that in order to be a "good RPG" you need to have roll slop and parry slop be the determining factor rather than actual decent art direction or gameplay. As long as the MAIN FORM OF GAMEPLAY is "roll or parry to dodge all incoming damage" that is all these contrarians want. E33 is evidence of this. Everyone whining and crying that FF7R&R is not "turn based" and is "soulless" to the original all seem to love E33 saying it is "classic Final Fantasy" when E33 is nothing but parry slop and roll slop with 3 niggas lined up in a row.Do your stats matter? Nope. Not at all. You can beat the game with having only 100 HP because you can parry and roll slop everything. The only thing that matters is MAXING YOUR ATTACK POWER WOOOOO!This is why all criticism of FF7R&R is in bad faith at best. Builds matter, your stats matter, and endgame content is punishing without seeming unfair it you miss ONE button press. Nothing would have made these contrarians happy because all they want is roll and parry slop and think "RPGs" are that now. Fromsoftware ruined an entire generation of gamers.
>I… Will never be a memory
>>7416022467R doesn't have any mods worth spending time on. It's purely the game itself that keeps people playing.
>>741602476This statement is only true because it does not turn every model in game into Scarlet.
>>741602353>You can beat the game with having only 100 HP because you can parry and roll slop everything. The only thing that matters is MAXING YOUR ATTACK POWER WOOOOO!Doesn't that make your attack power stat actually matter then? I'm getting conflicting reports
>>741598171Grim
>>741602353I'm sure all 2 million people that bought rebirth agree with you don't worry. Your numbers might be few, but together you are STRONG and VALID.
>>741602353>>741602353You can beat the original FFVII at level 1. You can beat a good handful of Final Fantasy games at base level. You can beat FFVII remake at base level if you really wanted to. Is it safe to say stats don't matter here too when you could theoretically beat these games with superior strategy or mechanical exploits instead?
>>741601823elite baal knowledge>>741601989kind of a shame the only glimpse you get is from the TYM buildingI really need to do a replay of HR with the piss filter turned back on
>>741598171somehow doing less with more, actually insane how they didnt get any of the soul at all.
>>741603654>You can beat the original FFVII at level 1No you can't.Because you start at level 6 and level up to 7 in the first battle. Unless you're talking about with cheats or something.
>>741604487>those chocobo trackssoul
Cope and seethe, purist fags
>>741598171Oh i'm actually playing through this again right now. I got as far as Aerith being kidnapped years ago when it first came out.Honestly it holds up better than I remember, maybe i'm just less smooth-brained. Combat is quite easy but not too boring. My one complaint is AI controlled companions build their ATB so slowly it's a pain in the ass. I get that the idea is to push you to swap between characters, but it's hard to keep track of your health levels and easy to find yourself in a scenario where all your healers are just standing around. Feels like the most optimal way to play is to switch to a character, build a bar, switch OFF of them and THEN order them to cast Cura. because the AI will target the active player.Oh, and the time jannies are bad too, of course. Not as egregious as I remember but the narrative still screeches to a halt every time they show up. What a completely pointless story element. They could have simply had Sephiroth hallucinations quietly taunt Cloud constantly, fucking with the players perceptions, if they wanted to play up their twist.Does game 2 have the time jannies?
It doesn't make sense that a soulless corporation would have neon lights in their elevators
>>741598171What is the issue?
>>741604932it does make sense that a real life corporation would remove soulful lights from a video game though
>>741598171if you ever play og ff7 make sure you don't play with the hd models and anti-aliasing cause then the characters don't blend into the background like they're supposed to
>>741604978It is a "remake" but looks completely different from the original, usually remakes make things more detailed, not less!
>>741598171Not a remake hater but I'm not sure how to feel about all the silly shit added in rebirth
>>741604932besides, we see plenty of greebly cables and neon-colored lights elsewhere in the reactor and in Shinra facilities.
>>741598171imagine not knowing the elevator scene is one of the most iconic pieces of world building in gaming of all time and replacing it with a UE store generic asset?Just an everyday event at SQenix
>>741604863>Does game 2 have the time jannies?
>>741601349tifa also looks like a supermodel cosplayerquite frankly, the cute factor has been annihilated
>>741599095>>741599869Holy fucking retard. Final Fantasy 7/Midgar is a form of Dieselpunk, not Cyberpunk.Ironically, uninformed retards like you are why remakes get aesthetics wrong in the first place.
>>741605091>usually remakes make things more detailed
>>741605408
>>741605408Their rendition of Junon was a masterful recovery from the mess that was Midgar
>>741604802They are not even purist fags. They do not know the lore or even the story of FF7. They saw the remake as a way to "get cool with the old folk" and say they played the original without actually having done so.
>>741605408Revelation should have a night and day system. Once you progress the story, you can't get back to the sunset lighting in the area for the rest of the playthrough.
>>741601890Remake is so different from the og that I find it silly when people say it's better or worse.It's a new game basically.
demakefags are so insecure
>>741601251This is because the original has an art style, so when stylized characters act exaggerated, it's expected. The remake does not have an art style, instead falling for the meme of hyper-realism. If the realistic characters act in non-realistic ways, it feels jarring. Which is already a retarded decision, because Barrett has a minigun mounted to his arm, and Cloud carries a sword the size of his own body.
>>741606001>"get cool with the old folk"who the fuck are you quoting?
>>741604802
>>741601086are you a blidn retard? do you not see the giant, lit up number on the inside of an elevatorwhat the fuck do you think that means if not what floor you are on?
>>741606628>demakefags are so insecurewho started the thread?
>>741606750You can't compare a remake of say, Red to Fire Red the same way as FF7 because FF7 is from pre-rendered background to full 3D realism, while Fire Red keeps the grid layout of the original. Certain things are going to be changed to accomodate the new environment.And no, I don't think realism is bad. You dont actually want a remake. You just want a remaster.
>>741607272someone who obviously understands how soulless the demake is
>>741607930Why are they so insecure?
>>741608002they're not?stop crying.
>>741604978>What is the issue?People who complain too much for the tiniest of things
>>741608969Why are there kkk members all over reborn?
>>741609062There is a plethora a black people in Rebirth.
>>741609091sheeeit
>>741598407He loves the world that he gave his life that whoever believes in him will not parish but have everlasting life.
>>741609434Does that mean I don't need to go to church?
>>741598171Why did they remove the style?
>>741609874It's called OSHA violation, not style.
>>741598171Few ever realized it but the chibis gave the game soul
>>741600421>There is no pleasing you.Yeah there is. Make Jessie wear a bikini inside the elevator and all is forgiven.
>>741602353>E33 seethe out of nowhere retarded argument, completely debunked every single time it's mentioned by the simple fact that that overwhelming majority of people are not going to be able to dodge and parry every single thing first time, they are going to get hit, and so they are going to need to spec into defense somewhat. i had lune on my team the entire game as a healer. if you really want you could spec everything into attack power and restart fights over and over again until you nail the combo pattern, dying and having to restart every time you miss a single parry, repeating the same battle for an hour. you could do that. that isn't what most people are going to do. you can trivialize almost any game in some way or another along those lines. you can trivialize most RPGs in general like that by grinding arbitrary skills over and over so that you can walk over anything without employing any sort of strategy or team synergy.
they had one job
>>741598171Why would Shinra's elevator look like the top image?
