https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHDPAinreccwhy did they fuck up killing floor 3?same thing with payday 3and no, don't say greed, give me a real answer
You can't handle the real answer.
sequelitis answer of why the fuck would you play the sequel with bugs, no content and increased prices when the previous game has 10+ years of content
>>741609373They ran out of money and the investors had low expectations because KF2 bombed on release and 90% of the population was hat bot, so it was released early.That's it.
>>741611120I forgot an s on the end of 'hat bots'
>>741610305lmao, how naive you arethe true answer is, that the new dev team is made out of diversity hires with DEI agendajust see how the new characters look, and listen to their dialogueNone of the original devs are there anymore
Didn't you hear? Life service hero shooters are the future. Just look at marathon.
>and no, don't say greed, give me a real answerhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tendency_of_the_rate_of_profit_to_fall
>>741611254plus it plays like assthe new developers are talentless hacks
>>741609373Tripwire forced the CEO to step down after he made comments about being pro life. Another victim of the tolerant left.
Occam's Razor
>>741609373>Halo Reach/4/5>CnC4>KF3>DmC>Payday 3>Deadspace 3why do devs have the visceral need , at some point, to go "hum let's take our franchise known for x and y and remove x and y and refuse to understand why the fans of x and y don't like the new game" and then have the studio fucking die?
Greed
>>741611356This is the answer, all other answers are tangential to the real problem with Tripwire.
>>741609373This is why Valve refuses to make a third game. They know it's cursed.
>>741609373>franchise known for gunporn>design fever dream weapons with lackluster animations and sound FX (sorry couldn't spend a couple hundred thousand pounds out of several millions in the budget for that!) but NO real weapons that would be icky>franchise known for class based gameplay>lock classes to characters>franchise has the possibility of drop-in drop-out gameplay on servers of your choice>replace server browser with matchmaking>previous installment almost universally decried for futureslop aesthetics>double down
>>741611356Good, fuck fascists.
>>741611356Tripwire was still shit back when he was there. RO2 was a fucking mess at release.
they tripled down on future tech that no one liked and created a town called clamefield honoring a genocidal maniac after horzine helped humanity beat the zeds in kf2that is like a town called hitlerville after ww2
>>741609373KF went to shit when the mod was turned into a mainstream game.The mod already had problems where it started struggling with its identity, but KF1 fucked up hard shortly after its release.
>>741613304>Halo ReachI keep seeing this kind of discourse, but I feel like it's been overblown. I played it a lot during release and it was doing fine on its own.
>>741609373KF3 has the best gameplay and that's what matters, so I don't care.
>>741614848it was doing so fine it lost to COD and even halo 3 after it launched.
>>741614973I suppose. I guess it didn't really feel like it at the time since I hopped between both games and the multiplayer for both was still very alive, even with Black Ops taking over.
>>741614042That's how I feel about KF3 too. I couldn't find a single redeeming thing about KF3.There are lots of shitty games that I enjoy and can find a few things to compliment but in KF3 I really can't think of a single good thing to say about it and I sure as fuck did not enjoy my time spent playing it.
>>741614042>Reinstall KF2>Browse servers>See that the game is still somewhat alive>Join a Suicidal dif match that's 5/6>Get destroyed due to being extremely rusty>Still have the time of my lifeI miss when this game was active. It was very fun up until they added the fucking EDARs, at which point it started to wane.
>>741609373Well Payday 3 was a long line of consequences set up by various manager-types, mostly the former owner Bo Andersson essentially leaving them bankrupt with a bunch of dumb monetization decisions and multi-media bullshit. Thus leaving Starbreeze/Overkill at the whims of the Payday 2 players generosity and supposedly 505 games. Devs are to blame as well but there was a lot more at play is the point. I could imagine similar things happening with a lot of these companies, they just fail to understand the product and what the customers like and can't sustain themselves or their growth at the very least. I just want to know why all dying game series start adding random robot enemies that nobody asked for.
>>741609373its kind of a brain dead boring genre to begin with so without room to grow they had to try adding things that took away from the core design.
>>741609373they lost touch with what the word "fun" means in their quest for profits kf2 sucked ass too
>>741615458Payday 3 is making a comeback, its about a third of the way there still, but its happening.
>>741609373bought by embracer same thing that happened with kingdom cum in guys
>>741609373The people who play stuff like payday, killing floor and similar games are mostly poorfags who play on toasters. They're quite often 2nd worlders (East Euros/Slavs) or 3rd worlders. While there are many reasons the game failed and a lot of them have been given in the thread I see no one mentioning that the game is using unreal engine 5 and that most KF2 players just can't run KF3 in good conditions to begin with when they have a laptop with a 1060M.
>>741617887Kf1 and pd1 were exclusively played by the whitest kids you know because they predate shart phones.Pd2 is always on sale for $1 so everyone owns it, same with kf2 because of how badly they fucked up both games in their launch year.Pd3 actually plays good though. Like it's perfectly fine as a game, the shitty live service ruins it completely and they have started removing it now.Kf3 is a overwatch pve mode. Garbage outsourced to a sweat shop. No one at all wanted it. They didn't even let their fans playtest it because they knew they would hate it
>like KF>love KF2 even though people bitch about it dropping the grindhouse aesthetics >population winding down because the game is so fucking old>hope we can get some new blood in the franchise with the release of KF3>KF3 is shit>KF2 is still on life support Shit sucks. And before you say just go play KF2, you can still find games. I do still play KF2, but seeing it at the current state it’s in is kinda sad.
>>741614042>>double downthey removed the class locked to characters a while ago though?
>>741609373Damn even the added Gabe Newell couldn't save the reviews.
>what's 2 + 2? >and don't tell me 4, give me a real answer
>>741609373Devs were just retarded. No idea what makes a game, let alone killing floor, work.All of kf3's design feels like it was made without any intentionality, like aliens putting together parts that look like a video game without knowing if they go together or not.I know someone close to a dev who said the team had no idea the game they were making was bad until the open beta and they wete genuinely devastated. Also the team collectlively had single digit hours spent in Killing Floor games.
Tripwire hasn't made a good game since RO2 and even then it was plagued with a lot of release issues.They've lost all the key people who had a clue about making a fun experience.S
>>741609373I never played KF3 but I am watching the video I am really baffled that the game release with perks attached to the characters.
>>741609373>check website >they offer work from homeso their development team is full of troons
>>741614042is this realI go back to sleep
>>741614042These points are all about spot on, and the only other major complaint I'd add is that KF3 is so far divorced from the original iconic Bongistani grimy London vibe, it's genuinely unrecognizable.How Tripwire went from fat fuck British SWAT/military lads to GI Joe ninja berserkers and quippy latinas should be studied as a pitfall to avoid
