Is PC gaming kill?
Yeah
I just use a rx 580 and play on low
High end PC gaming is dead. 4K, DLSS, OLEDs and ultrawide monitors are all a dead fad that people don't want.
>install latest AAA gamelmao
video games are for faggots
>>741610510You forgot DLSS and framegen, saar.
Idk I’m having fun
I don't get the "PC gaming is dead" shit when any half decent PC can play literally thousands of great games.
>price jumped from 350 to 400 for a midrange AMD cardI'm waiting it out, even to the deathbed if I have to.
>>741610510>Anon not realizing that the actual 45FPS that 5090 delivers is 45 faps-per-second generating AI porn of any variety you wantNow if you'll excuse me, I must music gen Gone Guru to be about a party of adventurers gang raping a goblin
>>741610510People had been saying that since the PS3 days
>actually fapping to AI porn images / videobrown
>>741610510This, but >install Chinese / Japanese gacha games>enable Ultra Settings>Play at 60 or 120+ FPS
>>741611095The benefit of having poorfags and mobilefags as their target market.
>get a 9070xt>$250 less than a 5070ti>exact same performance in every game>20% slower than a 5080>which is 100% more expensive >don't give a single fuck about ai garbage because I play video gamesGee that was hard, call me when goyvidia out out a gaming gou not a fucking smelly jeet stock investment
>>741610510Bought a 5080 and have mostly been playing Vintage Story since I did.Looks great. Lots of fun.
>>741611416How much faster is a 5070ti in games with Path Tracing on?
>Spend $1000 on a PC>Can't play new vidyaThis shouldn't be allowed
>>741611645Saar redeem the English language. Me no give shit for ai garbage
>Computer from last decade>Plays everything worth playingNah, PC is simply a natural filter of shit
you should have buyderized a blackwell 6000
i'm so scared my pc will not turn on someday and i can't afford a new pc
>rtx 5080>1080p>play every game at 120fps max settings for the foreseeable future
>>741611416>>741611730There is a direct correlation between being obsessed with Indians and also being really fucking dumb and incapable of speaking English.
>decide to finally try Civ 5 on this computer>want to try the enhanced UI mod>install it>installation instructions outdated, needs to run through proton instead>have to figure out hybrid install instructions>game hangs, fails to load to the initial menuWhelp. I have no fucking energy for this.Meanwhile I have disc FF12 on my PS4 that *just works*...
>>741611919Civ 5 on PC would just werk as well, you just have the option to mod it, which you attempted to do. Sometimes modding introduces a little extra work.
>>741610510>>741610685You realize consoles are playing at worse frames/settings, right? When a PS5 is hitting 60fps it's because every setting is turned to low.
>>741612006Mods are impossible on console, but maybe that's for the best. Some people are just really, really stupid.
DLSS quality at 4k is free real estate and anyone playing at native 4k is a retard.
>>741610510This means the game demands more processor power, not a better video card.Or you have a bottleneck.Or the game has memory leaks and it is poorly optimized.
pc is the dedicated slop platform for retards, always has been and always will be
>>741611917Brown hands coped in this post
>>741610510AI generated frames are good for you saar
>>741610510Just turn the settings down moron. Wouldn't you rather have too high max specs that allow you to eventually play the game in a better state in the future when tech improves rather than it always being locked to some poverty settings just to satisfy your ego that your pc is maxing out the game?
>>741610859Consolefags desperately trying to wish it to be so.
if you don't want to play in 4k (upscaled from 1080p), don't get a 5090. plenty of other cards that can handle native 1080p
Setting your game to Ultra is just begging to tank your performanceCustomize your settings if you arent a halfwit
>>741613004No UE5 slop can be played at native 1080p 60fps at this point. It's a clown world.
>>741610510>I don't care how the game looks>I only care about the setting saying ultra When are retarded devs finally going to figure out that they should just rename "low" with Ultra and delete all other settings? You can't just put things in your game that is targeted at future hardware, because brainless retards don't understand that the future is a thing.
>>741610685What do you mean? DLSS upscaling is amazing. It's as close as you can get to free performance without magic and it's a lot closer than I would have ever thought possible.
>>741611919>is on Linux >complains about having to tinker That's dumb, anon.
I regret going past 60fps
>>741611919Okay, now try to mod ff12 on your ps4.
>>741610510> make meme> don't mention resolution> reveal yourself as broke incel troon
>>741613298Just wait for the 7070ti to drop
>>741610510Buy slop, get slop. I'm stil rocking my GTX 1660 super, with no issues on any of the games i like to play.
Ultra settings are a meme and are for computers in 10 years (think when Crysis originally released and how eventually every PC could run it)
I'm getting a 4K HDR OLEDI hope it's poggy. I never used HDR before
>>741610510Not a problem at all in Project Nortubel
>>741610685OLED and ultra wide screens are unironically 100% a meme. Every time some random retard or one of my friends tells me they got an ultra wide screen it's five minutes later them complaining about something being wrong with the resolution, the fov or something else. It's literally inferior to just having a two monitor setup.
>>741610510>have a 10 year old laptop>install league of legends>set lowest graphics>game is playable
>>741610685People want 4k and oled, poorfags just can't afford it. Assume having them (and good performance) was as cheap as beign a 1080p LCD peasant in the big 2026, no one would willfully choose the latter. DLSS is indeed a meme compromise and only exists to make poorfaggotry viable. Ultrawide monitors are a personal preference bt I don't see how anyone prefers the incel prey field of view. 16:9 is already on the limit of nice framing.
>>741614454HDR is kind of a clusterfuck sadly, not many people use it on PC so HDR implementations either end up half assed or just don't existthat being said it's really transformative when done even halfway right
Will it get better?
>>741610510games are not meant to be played at ultradevs have even said thisultra is for screenshotshigh is for gameplay
>>741615102yea
>>741615237Good to know.
>$5,000 video card>max settings>silky smooth 30FPSYep, it's kino time
Literally bought a 5060ti prebuilt because I ddint want to sweat going through another PC part crisis like the bitcoin and covid arc but im still rocking my 970 gtx as a daily driver and the 5060ti is collecting dust because there are literally no games worth playing that needs it But at least I have it if my 10 year old gpu takes a shit
>>741611919>troonix
>>741615385>8gb models are below msrp>16gb models are double thatI hate AI so fucking much
>>741615380>I'd be happy if everything were the same, except that path tracing wasn't an option How would this improve things? Any retard-whisperer around who understand those people?
>>741610510>Consoles were holding back PC graphics during the 2000s-2010s>Buying the latest PC parts means you could play at high-max settings for 5+ years >Nowadays it only lasts 2 years max before your PC can't run the latest games at high setting without getting FPS loss and have to rely on frame generationTake me back!
Raytracing does actually look good if you have the overhead for it, it solves several cope solutions that you can then turn off like screen space reflections and ambient occlusion. But the best part about having a good machine to me is just having a stable 120fps and being able to completely eliminate aliasing now with DLAA.
>>741610510gaming in general is so bad nowadays
>>741615380Bro, you would have hated Crysis.
>>741615997PC hardware lasts way longer than it ever did. Games in the past also had features that didn't work on the hardware of the time. Remember Crysis? You're just making things up to be mad about.
>>741610820>this is how people take screenshots in 2026it's over
>>74161051045 FPS is legit fine.
>>741611601cool lookin minecraft mod
>>741616627anything under 120fps is dogshit
>>741615997>Consoles were holding back PC graphics during the 2000s-2010slolif anything consoles actually forced devs to optimize
>>741610510>install latest AAA gameLmao consoletards are so fucked. Do they even realize it?
>>741616407Not really, I upgraded my PC right around when Hogwarts Legacy (2023) was released and I was able to play that game at max settings just fine, but now I can't play MH Wilds and DD2 at max settings at release (2025).>But Capcom games have shit optimizationI also played Rise of the Ronin and Nioh 3 this year and I couldn't run those at max settings either, I had to turn off some settings or set them to medium to get a stable FPS.
>>741616795I would be scared to fly if I were Batman.
>>741611919Weird post. Civ 5 would work fine if you just launched it as is. You're going out of your way to mod it and on Linux at that. You can't then compare struggling to mod a game to simply starting a game you don't even have access to mod to begin with on a console.
>>741610510works on my machine
>>741617314wife and children status ???
>>741613558DLSS is great assuming you're fine with everything looking worse
>>741613521Sounds like devs should focus on current hardware and not hardware that won't be commercially viable for 5 years.
>>741613521>When are retarded devs finally going to figure out that they should just rename "low" with Ultra and delete all other settings?they effectively already did, you would be surprised how little difference graphic settings do these days
>>741616795>actually forced devs to optimize>batman arkham knightlmao
>>741617717The only superior AA is DLAA, which is still NVIDIA AI slop tech with slightly better image quality and infinitely worse performance than DLSS
>>741610685if you bought an ultra wide monitor you are a legit retard
ultrawide is so retardedI'm getting 55" 4K and I'll try like 90 degree viewing anglemy whole visual field will be ludokino, not just a horizontal strip
>>741618084I like my ultrawide monitor
>>741616795>>Consoles were holding back PC graphics during the 2000s-2010sPeople have said this for 15 years but I don't think I ever bought it, by PS3 era it was obvious that the graphics weren't being held back by the tech but by the amount of effor the dev had to put into the graphics, ie. money, and more graphics => more expensive gamesMeanwhile I was just glad to enjoy what PC ports happened running very well and looking decent on a lower end PC hardware during that era. With PS4 era getting properly underway games got a lot less optimized.
>>741618201why did you even get one, the support for it is minimal
>>741618368What support? Everything looks and works great. Immersion is way better. Old games, new games i play them all on ultrawide.
>>741618368because I don't only play indie pixel art games and emulation. It's also very useful for work
>>741610510I got a 5070Ti and play at 1440p.I cant max new games, I always need to fiddle with graphics so they run okay at 60fps, what a fucking joke rly.
>>741610510Is there even a single good game that requires more than a 1080 Ti?
>>741611730
>>741618294I don't understand how you can say that consoles didn't hold back graphics in one sentence and in the next say that games required better hardware to run once the console generation finally ticked over and not connect those two dots.
Don’t forget all the PC parts are unaffordable now
>>741610510werks on mi masheen
>>741618836Not really, SSDs and RAM mostly, GPUs were fucked beforehand.
>>741618939>8 tiny SSDs
>>741619002where?
>>741610510Works on my machine
>>741619109Sorry, *Six tiny SSDs
>>741619294>but you only have 10tb of NVME in your pc
>>741618732Yeah it's pretty horseshit that a GPU that's like 4x+ the power of a PS5 struggles to run games even 2x faster in many cases.
>>741610685can’t afford*FTFY
>UltraFuture proofing, no reason to use them as your go-to setting.
>>741618368If you are afraid of downloading mods then stay on console.
>>741610510No, just don't touch UE5 garbage.
>>741619417That’s because PS5 games don’t max out settings, instead running at medium to high and extremely rarely run at native 4k, usually dropping below 1080p in heavy scenes.
>>741619582I know, I even lower settings in my games and still get horseshit performance.
>>741619404>but moom! 100 flash drives are technically 10tb SSD in RAID!
>>741619473This. There's almost always a big difference between rig you would buy now and rig that's still good enough to use because you already have it.
>>741619718funny. my DDR is worth more than your entire pc
>>741619830Cope
>>741619830*Our* DDR
>>741619878>cope
>>741610510Name 1 game that the 5090 can't handle
>>741611416>>exact same performance in every game*>*a complete fucking lie
>>741612056Yeah nigga, you is those people.
>>741620342Correct. It's in fact better in most titles.
>>741620587>it can run the same but with worse image quality >so it's the same
>>741620252games with path tracing at 4K native
>>741620920>nativenobody plays native any more
>>741620652>b-but muh fake frames!!!
>>741610820Those specs and your computer still can't do a basic screenshot? Grim.
>>741620587>Correct. It's in fact better in most titles
>>741620587>Correct. It's in fact better in most titles.
>>741621047AMD doesn't even have fake frames
>>741610510>install modern AAA game>medium, high and ultra settings look almost exactly the same
>>741621297Same. Guess I need new glasses.
>>741621023point still stands
Modern games are kill, so I use my PC to play 10 year old games in 4k. Also looks better most of the time. Something about the "haunted smear" absolutely kills fidelity.
>>741621183I said it on release of the 80 and 90, and I will say it againIf you are not getting at least a 5080, DO NOT buy nvidia, just deal with the driver crashes and AMD dogshitIt doesn't happen that often and you are saving like 200 bucks at least
>>741621707>If you are not getting at least a 5080, DO NOT buy nvidia, just deal with the driver crashes and AMD dogshitThe 5070ti is more powerful with games which have more advanced graphics. You can say whatever you want, but you're wrong.
>>741621156>>741621183>AMDrones have no response Telling
>>741621707You shouldn't be getting Nvidia below 5080 and 5090 and you shouldn't get a 5080 because it's a $1200 card with 16 GB of VRAM and you shouldn't get a 5090 because it's a $3000 card with a 50-50 chance to self-destruct.
I dunno man. My GPU works just fine for what I need.Maybe go play some older games you missed out on like Borderlands or something?
>>74161051045 FPS is bad?
>>741610510>enable ULTRA settings>shit fps>dial it back to high>rook same, good fpsUltra settings is a meme
>>741610510>buy 4090>play at 1080pKeep running performance cucks. You'll catch up to those benchmarks eventually
>>741610510Your fault for playing at 4K instead of 1080p like a normal person.
>>741622370This exactly, been running a 5090 Desktop and 4090 Mobile together, gemma 4 31b Q6_K, 200K+ context and roleplay has never been so good. I hardly play games anymore.
>>741610510>2012>gtx 480>1440p 60fps>2026>rtx 3060>1440p-4k 30fpswhere did it all go so wrong in 14 years
>>741610820>can't use prtscn or snipping toolWhy is tech illiteracy so rampant?
>>741610820>AYYMDtard can't take a screenshotchecks out
There's a solution to that.
>>741616398I did hate Crysis, thank you very much
I just hate that HDR is still a complete meme on PC. It's fucking great in movies properly set up for it, but barely any PC games support it, and W11's auto-HDR is rather hit & miss and feels more like dynamic contrast than actual HDR.
>>741624636agree, and consoles is better at it due to less options for gpus
>>741617284civ 5 has one massive issue on modern PC's if you play it above 1080p that it will eventually crash in the late game because of it's 8gb memory limit + it loading in everything on screenwhich is a big shame
>>741624707Consoles are better at it because Sony was actively pushing for HDR support amongst their devs, since HDR was being pushed with HDTVs at the time (compared to the majority of PC monitors still being SDR).
>>741625108that makes sense, and now windows is stuck in the past
>>741624636It's pretty funny how consoles have HDR for VR but PC doesn't.
>>741625267You can blame Valve for that one, since it'd require SteamVR to support it at the minimum (the only HDR headset on the market still to my knowledge is just the PSVR2). It sucks, since VR is one case where HDR is able to lend more of a perceived depth with stereo HDR, assuming the panel has enough dimming zones anyways.
>>741625447>the only HDR headset on the market still to my knowledge is just the PSVR2Practically any micro-OLED screen is HDR capable and I know Bigscreen also has a couple of those for sale. Also you would need to enable HDR at a game level which Valve couldn't help you with.
>>741625507>Also you would need to enable HDR at a game level which Valve couldn't help you with.No, but if the SteamVR framework is there to accept an HDR signal, it'd at least open the door to it. It's a shame W11's auto-HDR wouldn't work for VR games, since it would lead to discrepancies between the left & right eyes.
>got a 3080ti in 2021>can still play vidya at 4k 60fpsi wonned
>>741625634I can barely hold 60fps at 1080p in Indy/C2077 with path tracing on with near every other setting maxed, and native resolution.
>current games on pc are unoptimize shitwhat more is new OP?
I'm still gaming at 1080p with a 2070ti.
>>741625659>with path tracingthat's your problem, ray/path tracing is a meme
>>741625659With a 5070ti*Which sucks, since PT is a generational upgrade over the RT shadows in Indy, despite smoothing over some texture detail in the process.
>>741625697It isn't for shadows. It's the only solution I've seen in any game where it properly grounds characters in the environment. For other shit like mirrors and volumetrics it's a fucking meme for the rendering cost required vs. traditional means.
>>741610510I was promised ray tracing 22 years ago.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV4q-U5LjRI
>>741621297>the only thing that actually changes is the FPSI genuinely wish all modern """"devs"""" lose their jobs and they end up living under a bridge
>>741625634>>741625697i don't understand why people are hailing cyberpunk as the best looking game of the century, it looks shit, like a ps3 game
>>741625934skill issue>>741625751yea sure looks better but the fps lost are never worth it
>>741610510Steam Deck is my only gaming PC. If I want higher visual settings, I use GeForce Now.
>>741626030i've never played it and i have no interest in doing so, but looking at benchmark videos it just looks really bland
I'm still on a GPU from 2018.Should I keep waiting or is it finally time to upgrade?
>>741626091it looks good in motion and the gameplay is really fun
>>741614772Starfield looks stunning in HDR.
>>741626030>yea sure looks better but the fps lost are never worth itI can deal with cutting 120/144fps down to 60fps for a non-competitive game if it means having path tracing on.
>>741624636You really need to mod your games to get decent HDR, RenoDX is nearly mandatory because devs can't be bothered with HDR for less than 1% of the players. I don't know how many players use HDR on PC so it's just a guess.
>>741626180definitely looks like an old bland game to me, it looks so lifeless
>>741626904Only OLEDs deliver proper HDR and on PC that's most likely 1% or less so yeah.
>>741613558Only poorniggers are ok with DLSSPeople who pay $3k or $4k for just GPU don't want to see upscale artifacts, ugly dithering and ghostingAnd I would also like to remind you that DLSS was introduced with the 2000 series as a feature for low end GPUs. Now it's mandatory shit for everyone
>>741627061Based retard, you have no idea or you are baiting.Have a (You).
>>741626123Depends on what you're interested in playing. Triple A garbage sucks so that leaves power hungry VR mods or running old games at 8K
>>741627061>People who pay $3k or $4k for just GPU don't want to see upscale artifacts, ugly dithering and ghostingIt's not like you have an option these days. Some AAA games don't hit 100+ fps even on massive cards like 4090 and 5090s and that necessitates DLSS even at poorfag resolutions like 2560x1440.
>my system meets recommended requirements for game>buy it>DLAA native gives 80 fps>cant get a stable 120 fps without turning on DLSS 1280x720 upscale
>>741626180You using a LUT there? My nights don't get that level of contrast difference on vanilla settings.
>>741610510>install latest AAA game??? you lost me
>>741627242>play Darktide with 4090 at 3440x1440 max with DLAA>bounces between 80-120 fps despite not looking any better than VT2No fucking wonder it has DLSS Quality on by default.
>>741627251must be a mod from this collection, not sure which one btwhttps://www.nexusmods.com/games/cyberpunk2077/collections/zrobzz>>741626983name 3 games better looking>>741626741if youre having fun that's all that matters
PC gaming feels way too complicated sometimes. I just want to play my games, not spend time tweaking settings and troubleshooting. At this point, wouldn't it be better to just get a PS5, press a button, and start playing without all the hassle?
Good games are usually well optimized these days.The fact they run like shit on mid range hardware (let alone high range) means that they're not worth playing.
>>741627461The usual click and play experience is 9 out of 10 times better than on a PS5 assuming you have the horsepower for it. The magic of PC is that you can tweak the game for hours to make it better. However, past the 15 minute mark there's vast diminishing returns. I would rather get shot in my yard than go play Elden Ring on a console at 1920x1080p with an unstable 60 fps than at 3440x1440@165.
>>741627461It's a small hassle I have to deal with primarily on older games, for having better visuals than a PS5 Pro would offer me on modern games. Although the reality is that console gaming is just too fucking expensive compared to the frequent heavy sales PC games get on the regular.
>>741613558>DLSS upscaling is amazing. It's as close as you can get to free performance without magicI can't believe I fell for this marketing years ago. RE4 remake was the first video game I played with DLSS options and it shows you an example of how each DLSS option changes fidelity and the the performance option just lowers the quality?????? How is this different then just lowering texture quality?
>>741627242>>741627342The flowchart for frame rate and graphics goes like that>want high framerate and ultra graphics?Enable upscaling>want high framerate and native resolution?Switch to medium-high settings>want "high framerate", native resolution and ultra graphics?Enable frame gen (as long as you don't drop below 60 real fps and preferably play on pad)But anyways, if you have high refresh rate display without VRR, you're doing something terribly wrong. My locked framerate autism got healed after I got properly working VRR display, so 90 fps doesn't feel much different from 120 fps.
>>741610510That is the whole point of Ultra settings. Devs make the ultra settings of a given game to stress the hardware of their era, dumbass. People used to run SLI 980Tis to play The Witcher 3 at 4k 10 years ago and hairworks was a system crippler. Same as it ever was.
>>741628008>>want "high framerate", native resolution and ultra graphics?>Enable frame genLook here buster if I'm paying the price of a Toyota Yaris for a GPU which draws so much power it randomly fries itself I expect an uncompromising experience.
>>741618084Ultrawides are fun for racing games, but honestly they suck in most other cases. Usually when I need more screenspace on a PC it is vertical, not horizontal.
>>741627967RE4make doesn't have DLSS, only FSR2, which is barely usable even at 4K.But if you used mods and played at 1080p with DLSS, then DLSS is pretty shit.Upscaling shines at 4K, where performance mode (1080p render) looks good when using DLSS and FSR4.At 1440p, quality mode is acceptable.
>>741628063>SLI 980TisTwo 980 Tis hich cost roughly as much as one RTX 5080. Great card, one of the last good generations alongside Pascal before everything went to shit.
>>741628165>But if you used mods and played at 1080p with DLSS, then DLSS is pretty shit.DLAA is pretty much fucking mandatory at 1080p output resolution. I refuse to play any forced-upscaling game that doesn't support it (or can be modded/overrode with nVidia app).
>>741617754The point of the Ultra setting on most games has always been dick measuring. This is nothing new.
>>741615997>>Buying the latest PC parts means you could play at high-max settings for 5+ yearsThis was never true if you chased new releases.
>>741628259I would still argue that using downscaling from 1440p with DLSS/FSR4 in quality mode (or maybe even 4K in Performance mode, but with DLDSR it's not necessary) to 1080p would give overall better results than DLAA/Native FSR, but that's higher level of autism not everyone is willing to go through.
>>741628165>RE4make doesn't have DLSSOh shit my bad, I don't know what half these marketing terms mean and honestly I just went back to playing older games and indies when I realized all these graphic settings weren't making me have more fun.
>>741628384I really wish internal rendering resolution was a standard option in PC games so I could just tell it to output 1080p, but render at 1440p or higher just so the temporal shit has more pixels to work with to minimize ghosting artifacts.
>>741618804I hate pakis too, shitskin
>>741628475>temporal shit has more pixels to work with to minimize ghosting artifactsIt would still need to do guesswork when guessing what it behind the moving object. In this sense DLAA does the best job in terms of ghosting elimination in temporal anti-aliasing. The solution would be to remove temporal AA altogether and use another solution but many modern games force a form of TAA and there DLAA is just preferable.
>>741623659>AYYMDthis takes me back
>>741628597Adding to this that the best way to reduce ghosting in temporal AA is to increase framerate, not resolution. This of course adds aliasing but reduces ghosting.
>>741611807>>741616180>>741616675So what's the benefit of 120FPS vs just using 60FPS? I can probably run most games at 120 I just haven't bothered to yet.
>>741628597>but many modern games force a form of TAA and there DLAA is just preferable.It's literally the only reason I upgraded from my 1080. Got tired of every game looking like shit and I had zero means of bruteforcing something cleaner like I can with my current card.>It would still need to do guesswork when guessing what it behind the moving object.I find it fucking laughable that devs use TAA for 'performance' reasons on modern engines due to this whole temporal workflow for every fucking effects-reliant buffer, but then you need both a higher internal resolution for it to not be a blurfest, and also higher framerate to make the ghosting artifacts less noticeable, both of which consoles are not going to do without sacrifices to either.
>>741628421Image quality of upscaling really depends on type of upscaling and display resolution.FSR2 and FSR3 are pretty shit no matter the resolution.FSR4 is good, on par with DLSS, depending on the game one is better than the other.I don't use XeSS, since I could use DLSS on Nvdia and FSR4 on AMD.At 1080p, even DLSS struggles.At 1440p, quality mode gives decent performance boost, while preserving good image quality.At 4K, you're usually pretty much expected to use upscaling, but it actually works at resolution this high.The higher your base output resolution the better.
>>741628729You have better response times and less blur.
>>741617276That's not flying, that's falling with style.
>>741628729Everything is just smoother with less input delay. The thing is the jump from 60 FPS to 120 FPS doesn't feel that big at first, but once you play at 120 FPS for a while and then go back to 60 FPS then 60 FPS won't feel right anymore.
>>741616180What card are you using where you can get 120fps/DLAA with 1440p?
>>741628782XeSS is underrated, it has that N64 blurry quality to it but lacks the pixelazation of its competitors at lower quality settings
Next PC is gonna be AMD/Linux. I'm so thoroughly done with the Intel/Nvidia/Windows trifeca of horseshit.
>>741627141NTA but I fucking hate DLSS and framegenIn my day there were no cheats like this, you measured your graphics card objectively by how many images of Quake it was shitting out onto your monitor each second, you could adjust the draw distance or the resolution to help you actually play if you were a poorfag but your card couldn't just flat-out lie to you about what it was doingI still don't believe in DLSS and framegen, I don't think it's a coincidence that they've come along at the moment when everything is coded like shit and looks like shit
>>741627141>you have no ideaWhat is this even supposed to mean, fagger? I had the privilege to dip into DLSS and RTX with a 2080Ti when this shit first appeared and I wanted to gouge my eyes out when I first saw extreme ghosting and cocksucking visual artifacts (which were as cocksucking as you)You literally couldn't use RTX without DLSS. And you can't do it to this day. You HAVE to use it either way. And it never looks as crisp as native rendering>>741627197>It's not like you have an option these daysAND JEET NJEWIDIA BOOTLICKERS DEFEND IT
>>741628741>both of which consoles are not going to do without sacrifices to eitherWell the issue is that consoles until now didn't have the neural hardware for it. Then again, they would rather use that neural hardware for features like upscaling than reducing blur. Remember: these are the same goyim that chose LCDs over CRTs and would rather buy a larger LCD over a smaller OLED.
>Buying the latest expensive GPU to play the latest AAA console port slop vidya at max settingsThis is what shitskins and advertisers think PC gaming is
>>741621297>Tweak settings in menu>Literally no fps gain or loss from any of themUE5 and the devs who use it deserve the rep they've earned
>>741628815is that with motion blur off already?does it help with screen tearing?>>741628852Kinda feels like I'd be screwing myself over in that regard then.
>>741628929>AND JEET NJEWIDIA BOOTLICKERS DEFEND ITWhat should njudea do about it? Feed the claymore 5090 some more power? For once retarded jeet devs should be shot in the streets for not being able to deliver 4k/60 from a 600W GPU.
>>741610510>buy 5090>buy latest AAA gameYou lost me with both of these OP, only goycattle does this
>>741610510>Upgrade to 4060 from 1660>Turns out the card I bought was defectiveVery cool
>>741629043>is that with motion blur off already?Regardless if you have motion blur on or off 120 fps means the panel updates faster reducing visible blur. You can have an even superior experience running the panel at 120 hz with BFI and the game at 60 fps. This would negate the response time benefits and generally speaking I think 120 fps looks better than 60, blur and response time aside.>does it help with screen tearing?This shouldn't be an issue if you have a VRR monitor or Vsync enabled.
>>741628926okay boomer
>>741614146In two more generations anything below the flagship xx90 (64gb VRAM) is going to have like 2gb VRAM.
>>741629204I also miss when settings actually worked and you could dial a game back to run on your shitbox toaster better instead of Low & Ultra settings giving you the same FPS regardless and any other settings just make the game look worse but you get no FPS back for it.
>>741629053>What should njudea do about it?For starters, disable DLSSThe hardware is powerful enough, the devs just don't optimize games anymore because it's all UE5 asset swaps coded by indiansWhy are you even asking this? Njewidia won't do anything, they invented this shit to milk gaymers in the first place. Because they can’t shrink the transistors anymore so they have to sell software now. Which is gayAI upscale and whatnot. But the hardware is barely advancing
>>7416106854k is "dead" in the sense that hardware which fully satisfies the demands to run contemporary games on it just doesn't exist. Everything relies on upscaling, so you're not actually playing at 4k - just a sort of AI inferring what a lower resolution image should look like at 4k. 4k is for games 2-4 years behind the current hardware gen. In that, it's worth it. 4k for anything modern(relative to hardware generation) is just gonna be a mess of upscaler and temporal artifacts. The real issue with 4k is that it's very difficult to go back down from it since it makes everything else you do on a PC so much nicer looking, especially if it's on the smaller end of displays so the ppi is very dense. Best part of 4k for me has been for older games and stuff outside of games. The clarity is unbeatable(for now.)>>741613521Many in-game settings barely change anything now. The problem are temporal artifacts in most cases(example, dithering on hair and ghosting against background geometry), which take a lot of heavy lifting from upscalers to solve.
>>741610510Works on my machine.No literally, I have no idea why you tards keep encountering issues running your PC games, mine all literally run smooth as butter. So my PC does that PS5 thing where It Just Works and I come home and turn it on and just game smoothly from my couch.Are... are you guys retarded?
>>741629609>disable DLSSThis isn't an Nvidia call to make. AMD and Intel have their own neural upscaling techniques and even if those were discarded too consoles and many PC ports use upscaling solutions like FSR1 to make up for lack of performance. The only solution is to make demand for such a feature obsolete by properly optimized games.
>>741629782>AMD and Intel have their own neural upscaling techniquesWho cares?What kind of argument are you trying to make? Poor njewidia who first started to sell hardware locked software (upscaling, framegen, different versions of it even) are now forced to keep going?>The only solutionIs the final solution
works like a charm
>>741629163I see, thank you for clarifying, I might give it a try more often then.I tend to not have Vsync on because so many devs to fuckey shit with mouse input when Vsync is on, Worst one from my memory was original Dead Space, the mouse would crawl so slowly across the screen if you had Vsync on, then you had to turn it off but manually cap the FPS because it would cook your fucking GPU if you didn't, though the other problem was that it fucked up physics so the second level with the body bags was terrifying because they were jittering like Silent Hill monsters.
>>741610510Alive and well, it's optimization that got outsourced to incompetents. Fixable with some simple engine .ini tweeks. Such is the price of being the master race. I'll take it above upscaled checkboxes and 15fps + fake frames that come standard with console these days.
>>741630009Oh yeah I remember playing Dead Space on a RX590 and it was fucking horrible with Vsync on. Not only was it unplayable with the mouse but it would also lock the framerate to fucking 30 and you literally couldn't get through some doors without it. Dead Space was a bad port even for 2008 standards and the ports have gotten much MUCH better since. Vsync now commonly adjusts to your monitor's refresh rate and not some arbitrary fps. Exceptions exist, especially for games that don't go beyond 60 for one reason or another.
>>741610510>I have to max out every single setting and run my game at 16k super resolution because... I just do
>>741610510developers just doesn't care about optimization, they'll just fill a map with unreal engine assets and call it a game
>>741627436rdr2, last of us 2, i actually don't play that many modern games but i see better looking games all the time in trailers
>>741616605Please understand, he's an AMDalit.
>>741610510Name the game>>741610928Being poor seems so fucking miserable, you can't even afford a garbage GPU
>>741632289>Name the gameI thought it was referring to BL4 but there might be more. I know Wilds doesn't get to 4k/60 either.
>>741621297>install modern AAA game>default settings>30 fps and looks like shit>disable everything, everything set to low>20 fps and everything looks like shit
how much does a good CPU and RAM (not the one in the GPU) helps a GPU get more stable looking games?
>>741610510All you need is something that can play 8th gen games at 60fps high settings.That's all you'll ever need for the rest of your life. Which is crazy to say.
>>741628926Nvidia deliberately poisoned the well with shilling TAA to everyone and then once that ruined how modern games look with its blurry bullshit, they then sold you DLAA and DLSS to resharpen the games back to almost native.
>>741633359>RAM As long as you are using RAM with the same clockspeed and ideally the same manufacturer, there shouldn't be an issue. >CPUDepends entirely on the game. If you're playing Counter Strike, it basically doesn't matter. If you're playing a game with a lot of physics simulations and stuff, it matters.
>buyed builded high end PC>proceed to only play the same 15+ year old games I always did
>>741610510>>741610784Well the whole point of a 50 series IS DLSS and Framegen. You wouldn't buy that card just to play games natively
>>741633627thanks!
>>741610510What games actually run bad besides Trashfield 6?
>>741633805The people who make those images are AMD users who think people with 5090s don't use DLSS.
>>741634170>buy a $4000 GPU only to use upscaling because the games run like shit
>>741610510I prefer 1080p/60fps, which my 4070S is more than capable of without the need for framegen or upscaling.
>>741610820Do you install your games on C:\?
>>741634272with 1080p you are technically future proof, my paranoid ass is thinking they'll force games to play on 4k just to sell you more overpriced GPU's and monitors in the near future, since everything feels so jewy lately
>>741634874>>741634272for me, its how DLSS upscaling just looks like 1080p everywhere except the text.
>>741634260>buy a $150 GPU that can't even play games>think you're in a better situation
>>741610510>Frive is still upNo not yet
No. All you need to do is >Not accept megacorp AAA pushes for required raytracing UE5 faggotry that clock at 30 FPS unless you DLSS it into something playable. Indies, other games , turning off path tracing/RT where for most games it makes very little difference etc.. and you can do just fine on much lesser hardware. All of OP's problems are created by Nvidia. Literally. They're moving away from gaming except where it serve their proprietary standard - they've always been the problem in this regard, since the PhysX days. They want you to NEED PhysX, GSync (remember the days when you'd buy a top of the line GPU and it wouldn't work unless you bought a GSync monitor even though it could easily technically support FreeSync ?), DLSS, and now RTX/Path tracing and everything else. Its keeping you in their fiefdom. If you own anything else but a 5090, buying NV is a fucking joke at this point. 5 years ago everyone should have seen the writing on the wall when Nvidia was pissed that scalpers managed to get the cyptomining money with sneakerdrop bots, and they swore they'd never allow that to happen again - now they charge scalper prices from the start and lock shit up even harder to claim you NEED their cards for AI or anything else. All it takes is the industry fucking off and not engaging with their bullshit.
>>741627967Texture quality dropping doesn't give you the same amount of performance gain that the DLSS setting does, unless you had too large of textures for your card's VRAM. It is a tradeoff (ignoring DLAA) for performance in exchange for the texture quality loss. Also that loss is dependent on the game, texture style, and how fast moving the game is.
>>741613558This is correct. Anyone who says otherwise is either poor, coping, an amd third worlder, or all of the above.
>>741610510i suppose so
>oled and widescreen monitors are a memeJust admit your poor. The only con to owning an oled is that everything else looks like shit in comparison if it isn't an oled.
>>741638172And the fact that decent size ones are pitiful refresh rates.
All the vidya I want to play just werks so no. I'd like to get a 4TB SSD and migrate all my data there, though, since using so many smaller ones takes up too many ports. But with the current prices I'll just wait. Hopefully by the time this rig dies the RAM prices will be lower than right now.>favorite SSD manufacturer is killFuck this gay earth
>>741621707amd drivers haven't been a problem in a long ass time, learn to DDU so the nvidia leftovers don't fuck you over retard
>>741625934it is LITERALLY a PS3 game iirc
>>741610510This thread reeks of poverty.
>>741616605if he presses print screen or snip tool he'll have a driver crash. please understand
>>741625934It runs like shit and is made by third worlders. Since every game runs like shit for third worlders, they look at CP2077 as an accurate way to bring their living situation to America.
