buy an ad tranny

>>741612774
The first game had some really fun writing, but will this one also turn into a slog? At some point I would absolutely destroy all fights, so they became trivial, but the game kept throwing more of these trivial fights at me, where I just had to wipe out a few goons over and over again. Wanna travel? Well you better fight these pointless goons.

>>741612973
Beta doesn't have a single useless fight and there's morale now so enemies just surrender if you pound them too hard

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>>741612973
>The first game had some really fun writing

>>741613083
Realistically they only surrender when there's only, like 2 or 3 of them left, so it doesn't really save you all that much time. A couple of minutes out of a 20-minute fight saved is nothing

>>741613280
Post games whose writing you think is good.

>>741613083
That does sound better, wiping out 80% of the field by carpet bombing it with spells or fucking 20 backflips from my assassin was only fun for a while.

>>741613280
Awww, sorry if you hate fun. But the medieval planet and the bureaucratic nightmare ones were just a joy to play trough.

>>741613564
I enjoy the game, but mindlessly sucking it off like you do, does nothing good for the genre. Rogue Trader has some really bad writing overall

>>741613280
>did you just... like... pretend to have fun... in my presence!? you must be sooooooo retarded lol!
im so sick of /v/

>>741613626
Post writing you think is good

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Total Jimmy Care!

>>741613626
>some
>overall
Your writing skill is trash and overall bad writing doesn't mean you can't have some good writing mixed in there. Retard.

>>741613626
>some good writing
>enjoyed some parts of it
>mindlessly sucking it off
Bro, just because you are miserable, don't project your misery on others, some of us still enjoy videogames.

>being this mad someone doesn't think the game has good writing
You guys ok?

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>>741612774
>I can't wait for more Owlcat kino.
I hope the image filename clue turns out to be correct and Owlcat has one more 40k game in them.

>>741614662
>actual evil rpg
I doubt it

>>741614662
>image filename clue
The what?

>>741612774
I like their games but the fujo gooner fanbase, especially around Rogue Trader, is insufferable.

>>741615363
I've never seen any fujo fancontent for owlkek games

>>741613661
Jackie Chan

>>741614662
There are people that will tell you chaos marines are misunderstood heroes. The faction that names their guys shit like M<urderwing, and Huron Blackheart, and Abaddon The Despoiler.

>>741613564
>medieval planet
I liked watching Pasqal seethe at how they were treating their tech.

>>741615509
Pascal in general is great. Fucking loved that shit in my party, even if he was probably the weakest link.

>>741612774
reformed daemonette when?

>>741615251
>RT
>DH
>BC
It lead people to believe Black Crusade is in the pipeline.

>>741613083
That sounds retarded. I don't them to surrender and / or flee. I want to kill them all.

>>741614801
Owlcat is one of the few developers that can pull off “reasonable evil”

>>741614662
I think what Owlcat does next will probably hinge heavily on how The Expanse does. This is their Bioware moment.

>>741612774
fuck that femishit retarded faggotry

>>741615881
Yes, I would love to have sex with lesbians.

>>741615769
What are you talking about?

>>741615906
you're out of your league

>>741615878
I hope it fails. Game looks like garbage, wouldn't want them to move onto that

>>741615939
Why? I too can beat up my partner

>>741615981
never beat up your partner. stop playing political games. you're better off playing original games without politics

>>741615981
>>741616028
fuck owl cat

>>741616028
To beat up a partner first I'd need a partner, so don't worry, there will be no beatings

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>>741615920
They're pretty open about wanting to make games based on all 40k settings. They obviously really love the setting and I don't see any reason why they would just stop. Unlike Paizo, GW is quite hands-off with the studios that make games for them.

>>741616063
Ok, but I'm specifically talking about this
> image filename clue

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>>741613376
>>741613661
99% of the time when someone makes a post like this there is no intention for any honest discussion but only to dismiss whatever example that is provided as "trash"

>>741616061
you obviously never soloed bg2

>>741614662
No one wants to play an evil character. It would flop and rightly so.

>>741615857
>saying this after RT heretic path

>>741616280
Since when, every mmo I played the evil side was ovepopulated.

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>>741614801
>>741615857
>>741616280
>>741616292
They can just do a the reverse of RT where "good" is the path most players will ignore or save for replays. Include a secret companion as well.

>>741616097
In their Discord they leave certain things in the file names. I know they spoiled the DH announcement that way. I'm not sure why anon mentioned BC.

Wake me up when the final DLC is out. I'm not wasting my time on an incomplete product.

>>741616292
The path so barren and nonsensical that it's obvious that no amount of care or attention was put there because they knew nobody was gonna play it. The only reason it even exists is out of misplaced need to have an evil alignment in a 40k game

>>741616624
The game isn't even out yet

I've never done a heretic playthrough in RT because I don't want to upset Abelard.

>>741614662
fuuuuck, stop with 40K i am so tired of it. I at least hope they do a Fantasy (Old World) game next.

>>741616842
>owlkek is the only studio making 40k crpgs
>NYYYOOOO YOU NEED TO STOP IT EVERY STUDIO SHOULD BE MAKING GENERIC FANTASY GARBAGE

>>741615485
>not wanting to play as the great hero McMurder KillLarge Violencia.

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>>741616842
>Fantasy (Old World)
nah, I'm good

>>741616879
40k can suck my nards, how about that?

>>741617075
Sorry, but your balls will have to stay unsucked. Better luck next time

>>741616953
>not a single transfolk of colour
disgusting chud game

>>741616953
Why the fuck not?

>>741614662
I don't understand what these guys even want

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>>741614662
>here's your black crusade game. All 15 of your companions are space marines

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>>741617265
in a nutshell, pic related

>>741615664
>even if he was probably the weakest link
You just gotta have an officer give him the officer heroic and he becomes an unending exploding plasma machine gun.

>>741617595
Sure, he is a viable damage dealer fi you try, but the only unit with less damage output in most circumstances is Jae.

>>741617841
>jae
>less damage output
Unironically skill issue. What the fuck are you doing?

>>741617890
Comparatively.
Sure, MT can have some great scaling and a better heroic option than people realize, but officer and what her unique talents give her does not scale as much as others.
Base class, number of attacks and heroics add up a lot even for retards like Marazhai and Yrliet.

>>741617982
marazhai is salvaged only by a warrior heroic. Yrliet can't be salvaged

>>741618104
Well yes, Warrior Heroic is fucking good.
Yrliet is salvaged by the Bounty Hunter train, if you specced multiple people into it plus a couple ways to get extra attack(like killing in a single shot).
Though I'd rather have Jae for all the other things officer/MT does in the party.
Or better yet, Eosgun now

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>>741615251
When they were announcing Dark Heresy they posted pic related with this filename.
Other pics had WHBC and WHOW in names iirc so Black Crusade and Only War.
I think they were just fucking around though

>>741616063
>Unlike Paizo, GW is quite hands-off with the studios that make games for them
Is this a real sentence I just read? lmao

>>741618245
Yeah, after the first pic, they fucked around with the following ones to make it less obvious

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https://roguetrader.wh40k.wiki/Warhammer_40,000_Rogue_Trader_Wiki

Can someone explain why this wiki does not appear on google AT ALL?

This shit is just bizzarre

>>741618285
Cause it's very very recent?

>>741616624
You are missing out with your autism. Base game was complete and dlcs are an additional side quest bloat on top. None of them fixed any issues with a base game. They are not needed and never were. They are designed for people replaying this game for a new content.
In particular pacing was utterly ruined and story is even harder to follow now. This is because dlc events are now triggering all the time and as soon as possible so people replaying game can experience it ASAP. It used to be that you felt free at the the beginning of Act 2 with galaxy opening before you so you can travel the stars. Now every jump you are absolutely flooded with dlc events forcing you into dlc sidequests.

After RT I want DH to have more eldar just so we can kill them all. I'm already pissed they're shoving ANOTHER eldar into the companion pool.

>>741618502
Seems like you are upset, small creature

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>>741612774
Looks like space wotr

>>741612774

The games systems were shit though, and combat was trashy and unbalanced to the point it was never even remotely hard. Then after the DLC instead of fixing shit or adding actual well designed encounters, they just added an extra 10-20 low level enemies to every battle to make the entire thing a fucking boring slog.

Owlcats biggest problem has always been shitty balance and awful encounter design. Until they fix that they'll always be releasing mediocre games.

>>741619064
System was great, they gave up on encounters only in later half of a game
Dark Heresy so far is explicitly all about unique combat encounters

>>741619103

Nah, the character customization looked good on paper, but was really bland in practice.
And the encounters are just not good, and with the DLC a lot of them became chores and some times kind of funny. On the first planet there is one point where you fight two demons (or was it 3) along with like 15 other dudes. Then on the next screen you see a cutscene with some demon, the exact same as the previous two you killed but it's suppose to be some big shock and presented as a major threat. This is because in the base game that previous encounter didn't have two demons, they just added those plus a few other dudes to the encounter to try and make it harder due to all the power scaling that came from the DLC.

Game is full of shit like this, and now most encounters past the tutorial area have like 10+ enemies too many.

Still waiting for that last DLC release so I can play RT again. Game's way too long to replay every time a new character is released.

>>741619254
>Nah, the character customization looked good on paper, but was really bland in practice.
It's fantastic. Separating generic classes into agnostic Archetypes of different tiers to be combined with Homeworlds and Origins for flavor and reactivity is brilliant to the point I can't look at DnD classes anymore. Especially with how mechanically different all those Archetypes are

Encounters in first two acts and dlcs are varied, unique, with interesting areas, elevation, obstacles environmental gimmicks etc. It's in the later half that fights degrade into an empty room with goons standing around.
Horde battles are fun too. Honestly I wish they happened more often

>>741618502
No kidding. We have a Kroot, why no Tau instead of annoying fucking Eldar again?

So a question, Inqusition can perform exterminatus right? But would newbie, fresh Inqusitor with no influance be abble to pull that shit on important planet like Necromunda? I can see some Lord Inqusitor like that Zerbe guy having enough clout to pull that shit, but some newbie? Cant see that govnah

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>>741619798
>It's fantastic
>Levels up every second fight

Wonder if there will be an obligatory
>skillcheck of death
this time as well.
Last time it was that assasin text quest where I continued to fail medicine roll time and time again.

>>741620010
That's cool, lets me to perfectly customize my characters

>>741614662
Would be great, and Black Crusade often wins in Owlcat surveys, but problem is that Imperium faggots screech that hey dont want to play ze evil guys ( like Imperium is good lol ) So Owlcat can get scared, because they now Imperium faggots consist of like 60 % of 40k fanbase, if not more. But I want this, Owclat owns me that Deamonette waifu they cut from RT

>>741619798

On paper the system looks cool, but in practice it's just not. Big problem is too many levels which allow too many abilities/passives to be picked and you very quickly run out of legitimate options for most classes.

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>>741616063
>>741618245
I don't know pretty much anything at all about the pen and paper games. What's black crusade like?

I did watch all guardsmen party on youtube though and that was pretty great.

>>741616061
idk man I don't have a partner either and I beat my dick like it owes me money

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>>741620321
Haven't played it either. I did download some books tho

Owlcat should do a world of darkness crpg

>>741620321
It's pretty straightforward like DH and RT, but you're Chaos and you're doing your best to become Daemon Princes because Corruption and Insanity are even more inevitable than usual so you have more incentive to be goal-oriented otherwise you become Chaos Spawn
One of the tabletop campaigns I'm most fond of was Black Crusade, it was a lot of fun being a Nurgle-aligned Chaos Space Marine

>>741620427
Where from?

>>741612774
Hope they balanced it a bit better. I liked Rogue Trader but the game turns into a joke once you figure out how broken morale is. Apparently in Dark Heresy every character has their own morale so that should help at least a bit.

>>741620562
/tg/ general, you have to decrypt links. Many links were down

>>741620562
>>741620605
You have to use the archive to go back far enough to find the necessary PDFs that link to more PDFs
But recently someone was kind enough to hint at an up-to-date collection, that thread is probably still up

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>>741620481
The one I was is a Vampire the Masquerade crpg done with the skill that owlcat could employ but it will never happen because it got straight up bought. Feels bad honestly, it would be good to see it get its day.

The shadowrun crpg's are pretty underrated even if they're not that great, its still a fun time.

>>741620542
I can see that would be fun. Being honest I can't see it ever happening, its too much of a stretch to play as the bad guys. If they did space marines really well like how they're portrayed in gaunt's ghosts where they're pretty bitter and fucked up and just sort of roam about that could be a (maybe) viable setting.

If they do Black Crusade I hope they go full ham, make it epic like in WOTR, mythic levels can be dedication to chaos gods, become deamon prince in game not in ending slides etc. But yes I can see this, evil campaigns are not popular in cprgs at all, but if nor Black Crusade then what? Deathwatch and Only War are more suited for x-com like game, so it seems it would br fantasy or nothing in warhammer universes anymore.

>>741620605
Right, forgot about that. Unfun to handle, but vast libraries.
>>741620654
That's decent, will check it out.

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>>741620875
>Then what
please

>>741620919
Nah its clear they going through FFG library, I doubt they will bring something like this out of the blue

>>741620737
>pic
>The Birth of Slaanesh
So, is she going to kill him and eat his soul?

for some reason wotr clicked (still got fatigue in the demon place and never beat it), but kingmaker and rogue trader i barely got 10h into. i think my adhd is too strong for these games but i do love the char building and the lore alot.

>>741620919
Finally a primarch smooching game

>Make a entire Morale system
>have Night Lords in your game, who's main battle tactic is shredding morale

There's 100% going to be a Night Lord companion

>>741620562
/tg/ or rutracker for me, if you like audiobooks go to audiobookbay which is very good

(the dude who reads horus heresy, is very cool)

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>>741621078
We already have a companion who shreds morale

Do you consider Rogue Trader replayable enough for one playthrough with each alignment?

>>741621002
Yeah even if they weren't GW aren't really shilling 30k that hard anyway. a shame

>>741621154
>one playthrough with each alignment
I don't think full dogmatic and full iconoclast are different enough.

>>741621154
Unless you have new content with DLCs, I personally don't think so

>>741612774
>Owlcat kino
Those two words should never be next to each other

>>741615878
I hope it flops mildly so they avoid normie bait and make me more pathfinder games

>>741621154
No

>>741615878
>Relase half baked game
>Expecting people to stick around like they did for their CRPGs
>they don't
This is their Firaxis moment into doom

>>741621097
>audiobooks
For ttrpg rule books?

>looked at all the Romance options in Rouge Trader
>Jae is the only one that seems good
I hope Dark Heresy has better options

>>741621097
>the dude who reads horus heresy, is very cool
Better than many va

>>741621629
>Jae is the only one that seems good
Prepare to be surprised

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>>741620875
Imperium Maledictum or Wrath and Glory

I guess they could make another RT or Inquisitor game, but that's repetition. There is still a lot of stuff unexplored even from material they are using as a source
Black Crusade is a no go, because evil only games are niche
Only War is too limited
Deathwatch are Marines which are too autistic for cRPG. And no romances. I can see them making it if they are desperate though

Honestly going Corsair Prince route after Rogue Trader and Inquisitor makes the most sense imo. A lot of sense. Owlcat are eldarfags, they have plenty of Eldar assets already made, Corsair Prince is a very broad and versatile backstory just like Inquisitor and a Rogue Trader, it would feel different from Dark Heresy and Rogue Trader, let them have different companions... I legit believe it's the most realistic option

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>looked at all the Romance options in Rouge Trader
>Jae is the only one that seems good

>>741621781
>Imperium Maledictum
That's just Dark Heresy but worse

>>741621154
yes if you actually like crpgs. I've done iconoclast and heretic playthroughs. when the final dlc is out I will do my dogmatic one.

>>741621154
I've played the game a dozen times but I've only ever done 2 alignments usually picking all the same options

>>741621781
>Only War is too limited
People say this but I'm pretty sure you could pull it off
Trouble is figuring out whether you play as part of the command role and can dictate where and how the war progresses, or if you play as the guys on the ground doing cool shit, probably special operations to make the player feel special
Or both, somehow
Obviously some regiments wouldn't work (an RPG about an artillery team might be a bit dull) but you've got plenty of options to work with still

>>741620010
thats just owlcat early game experience

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>>741620875
Do All Guardsmen Party

I don't care how

>>741621781
>>741622018
What is the all guardsmen party based in? That was pretty fun.

>>741621012
>She

Aren't all 40k games evil only games...

>>741622018
You play as a commander and move your troops around homm3 style :)

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>>741621828
That's why I think they wouldn't choose it. Especially right after Dark Heresy. Mood is too similar. It's not like Owlcat has to stick really close to source material, they basically only take a broad concept from those RPGs and then tell their own stories with their own gameplay so I can see them pulling off, but not yet.

Elves are so similar to Humans nobody minds playing as them anyway. I think it's the safest, easiest, unique, versatile and most realistic option. Corsair Prince is free to do what he wants as RT and Inquisitor. It feels so obvious to me the more I think of it.

I guess they could try to make RPG set on a Necromunda I guess. That could work too. It's basically Cyberpunk, it's a liked setting, Owlcat haven't tried making Cyberpunk yet. No tabletop RPG, but I don't believe it's necessary

>>741622113
It was based in the setting of Warhammer 40,000 hope this helps
Dark Heresy rulebook I think

>>741622113
Only War

>Won't get a good 30k game because GW doesn't want it to get popular or overshadow 40k
>Won't get a good fantasy game nowadays because it's smegma shilling season
>not that smegma is even fucking good
lifes cruel

Is Cass still broken as fuck with those movement abilities?
moving turrets in 1.0 was such a ridiculous thing

>>741622198
>Owlcat haven't tried making Cyberpunk yet.
They should make a Shadowrun game
They should make a horror game. They can do horror

>>741616110
That's what you've done already. Thanks for the projection

Can I play as a woman that gets raped, corrupted, and made to bring her all female crew into breeding farms where the adventure ends? I shant be touching this dreck if I cannot roleplay correctly.

>>741622113
They started in Only War, got horribly murdered, and the survivors ended up in Dark Heresy
That's one of the nice things about the FFG books, many of them are modular
It's a shame they died before they could start putting out 2e versions of RT and other non-DH games, I guess Owlcat's RT is the closest we'll get on that front so that's something
>>741622296
FFG does do Arkham Horror...

>>741622347
yes actually

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>>741622375
>Arkham Horror
Would be a fantastic crpg. Caroline my waifu

>>741620142
>dozens of meaningless skills and feats
Okay, have fun while I just follow build guides cause I can't be arsed to read 100 levels worth of tiny upgrades.

>>741620875
They could do a Black Crusade game where you're playing as less evil chaos marines.
So you can focus on being independent, only taking what you need to keep flying, protecting and supporting your fellow marines, etc. A more practical approach to being evil, not just stabbing people in the back for no real reason, plotting to gain more power, or torturing for fun. You're a selfish bastard, but you still have standards. Traitor marines like that do exist.
Of course, you should also have the opportunity to go full evil, dedicate yourself to a god, burn and pillage, etc.
But it could be fun to see more of that world, fly around in the eye of terror, being bullied by stronger forces, stealing from weaker forces, meeting up with other chapters, etc.

You don't have to play a Space Marine in Black Crusade, you can be a regular Chaos worshipper guy
Obviously there's a bit of a power gap but it's not as bad as you might think, especially if players and the GM are creative enough and recognise that some characters are better suited for certain things than giant hulking murderman is
I would hope Owlcat would let us have the option of playing both kinds of characters but it'd probably be a balancing nightmare to do correctly in a videogame

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>>741622375
>>741622501
>Arkham Horror
I don't think it would really fit Owlcat. You don't get to throw bullshit encounter at the player. Even with AH being way more action-based than something like CoC.

>>741622347
I think there's actually several instances of that being possible in Rogue Trader

>>741622256
You can't really do shit with 30k because it's so Primarch focused.

>>741623217
Owlcat is developing The Expanse, a TPS clearly inspired by Mass Effect. I'd say they're way past being constrained by isometric CRPGs at this point.

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>>741622198
Thers one problem with this, players in cprg want to play as humans, and eldar are a meme in warhammer 40k fanbase. I personally would love to play as Dark Eldar, all the schemes in Dark City, but I know no one will make a game from degenerates perspective that is not Warhammer 40k total war.

>>741612774
>I can't wait
well, you're going to have a problem.

>>741622198
>Elves are so similar to Humans nobody minds playing as them anyway. I think it's the safest, easiest, unique, versatile and most realistic option. Corsair Prince is free to do what he wants as RT and Inquisitor. It feels so obvious to me the more I think of it.
I don't think you realize how much the 40k fanbase absolutely fucking hates Eldar.

>>741612973
its a lot shorter than RT

>>741621789
until you hear her speak

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>>741623515
Elves are popular in general and BG3 in particular proves it. They are just Humans with slightly different ears. Niggers are visually more different lol.
Eldar hate in 40k is an overblown old meme. They always were a huge and popular faction. Hell, they might be perfect for cRPG DnD crowd who finds 40k too edgy, since they contrast with their clean visuals

>>741623567
or look at her face

>>741623653
Eldar are not just Elves in space, anon.

>>741623714
They literally all. They are weeb elves in space with a dose of necromancy. But they are Elves. It's why you even have them in both games as companions, a very easy thing to do

Anyone got any build suggestions for Unfair?
I'm doing my second run of RT with DLC enabled but the only things that have really changed are that I can actually take damage for once and have been avoiding ship combat like the plague because I know for a fact that my Ironman run will probably end if I don't get some real ship upgrades to deal with the bullshit there.

>>741612774
>You can't interact with your crew between missions (hopefully this is just because it's a beta). So all the companions feel flavorless and bland. Aspyce and Laathyr are maybe the only two who display some personality.
>You and your companions are horrendously underpowered. They looked at Rogue Trader and decided to steer way too hard in the other direction.
>There are very few ways to create viable builds (so far) but a lot of ways to create builds that gimp you.
>Armor is a second health bar and is mostly useless. Enemies will strip that out in a turn.
>Fights almost always start with you in disadvantage, with little to no cover, and enemies surrounding you. There is absolutely no way to position your characters in a way that allows you to avoid damage.
>Enemies pull off some crazy overpowered abilities out of their ass, like instantly causing all enemies to max out their morale and one-shotting you in a fight, or throw a frag grenade that hits everyone in your party.
>Every fight has some bullshit gimmick that causes you to lose if you don't understand it beforehand.
>Loot is terrible. Unique weapon abilities have been replaced with generic ones that are shared between weapons. And yes, weapons are weak in general (a bolt pistol that does 4 damage, a flamer with the range of 4 squares etc.).

Visuals are a definite improvement, the investigation system is pretty good, and the plot so far has been engaging. But I have some big reservations about Dark Heresy as a game, and I loved Rogue Trader. They have a lot of work ahead of them.

>>741623794
Regular Elves don't have a history of spawning horrible Chaos Gods only to then immediately turn around and backstab Humanity while STILL acting like they're the best things ever.

>>741623653
I wonder if they wont bother with origin characters next time.
fucking surprise people want to play their own character.

>>741617340
There are plenty of different character types in the Black Crusade tabletop, there is no reason the crpg version would be any different.

>>741620875
>evil campaigns are not popular in cprgs at all
I can see them offering a sliding morality scale again, ranging from "renegade freedom fighters fighting the corrupt Imperium" to "sacrifice planets to the Dark Gods, let the galaxy burn".

>>741623936
This is how acolyte of Inqusitor should look though, underpowered scrub that his daddy Inqusitor can replace anytime he wish, Rogue Trader like Von Valencius is on the other level in power level, I drop beta after underhive because I didnt want to spoil the game with undercook produkt, but my question is, do you become full Inqusitor in this game? Because if yes them maybe you will have option to get better gear.

>>741617340
I will take a black crusade game where every single companion is a space marine over a rogue trader game where barely any of your companions are xenos

>>741624501
The difference between the tabletop and Owlcat's game is that in the tabletop, everything is fucking lethal. Players are very squishy, but so are the enemies. It levels the playing field. In Dark Heresy beta you can shoot some random cultist in the face with a bolt pistol and he won't even flinch.

>>741623515
Only secondaries, gw and gav thorpe hate Eldar, they're one of 40k's 4 pillars.

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>>741624709
>The difference between the tabletop and Owlcat's game is that in the tabletop, everything is fucking lethal.
This is why I think we'll never get a WFRP game from Owlcat. Or we if we do it'll be something warped beyond recognition. Ironically, that game is not at all suited to making a by-the-numbers CRPG.

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>>741623942
That still makes merely elves
Elves very often do stuff like this. TES, Dragon Age, Witcher all have very similar antagonistic to humans Elves making fucked up projects and fucking around with magic. This sort of portrayal is honestly more common now than before and even in Tolkien Legendarium they weren't saints.
>immediately turn around and backstab Humanity
That never happened and there is no indication of this ever happening
All information we have is that DAoT humans were attacking Eldar, just like other species they enslaved, until they were btfo. On the contrary, there are examples of Humans living peacefully under Eldar rule, until Imperials arrive.
Humans in 40k are consistently, predominantly evil. DAoT were various expansionist human empires fighting against each other, conquering and enslaving other species and ruled by mad scientists drunk on power of technology.

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>>741621789
>Jae is the only one that seems good

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>>741623927
Honestly if you don't have a solid grasp of builds yourself unfair ironman is going to be pretty fucked. If you're past Aurora already it does get easier but still, anything can wipe you out by making the dungeons to hard to clear. I mean good luck, and Revan 619 does have unfair focused builds that will hold your hand but I'd probably just play it non-ironman honestly.

>>741612774
Yeah, it does look good.

>>741621789
Then who's the best?

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>>741612774
It's pathetically shorter than RT except has vastly more text and dialogue bloat so no
In the beta you can LITERALLY go 2h without even the 1st fucking battle while just talking and talking

>>741627968
Dark Heresy will miss out on the femcel audience. There is no husbando companion in that game they can drool over. Touma, the brooding emo dude, is probably the closest they get, but he is no Heinrix.

>>741627968
Heinrix is such a beta boy I felt disgusted as a fem rogue trader. It was funny teasing him at first but then he thought it was real lmao

>>741628038
Sorry is the whole thing released on the beta? I didn't want to spoil myself, its still 40 hours + yeah?

>>741628325
Act 1 only. No prologue or the other acts. And it's missing a companion quest.

>>741628325
no but the beta they released is significantly shorter than the one for RT
including gameplay wise, doesn't even have 2nd archetype yet, only 3 psyker schools, everything but pyro psyker, the kroot sniper or sanctic psyker warrior is downright TRASH etc.

>>741628381
Oh ok. Yeah I'm hoping it hits the sweet spot, RT did overstay a little but then rushed the ending originally. Hope its a bit tighter. How long is the beta?

>>741612774
No SoB romance no buy

>>741627968
I'm not a homo though and don't play as a woman

>>741612774
I want to start playing but there's more and more dlcs.

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>>741623927
Have both:
>Officer / Grand Strategist voidborn focuses on INT and ignores FEL. Or Cassia with her debuff shit
>XX / Overseer (Raven), Psyker buffbot, highlights include Iron Arm, Warp Speed and Forewarning. Officer is best for base class but Idira is alright and her being a unsanctioned psyker comes in handy for easy psi rating, there is a talent so she doesn't proc the dangerous psyker fenomena when casting shit on the raven

Give one of them the inquisitor signet and your whole party will be basically invulnerable after 1 round of buffing.

>>741628484
I tend to alternate by playthrough, or if I feel inspired to rp a type

ngl, the concept of having full control of both the underworld and the entire expanse does make Jae seem like a good pick to romance.

>We’re introducing Owlcat Launcher to Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader

>>741628691
Jae and her gang are small time upstarts. You can do better by controlling Kasballica Mission and the Fellowship of the Void. Which you can do just fine without her.

>>741628691
Jaebro is tripping, she's just some small time criminal, Heinrix himself says this

>>741628896
For me it was controlling those two and the Drusian Nurgle cult.

>>741623567
>>741623674
Or listen to what comes flowing out of her mouth.

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>>741628891
they're literally doing it so they can advertise other games to you. owlcat is also a publisher now.

>>741628891
>so you 40k retards have no idea we make other games
>now you will be forced to know
kek

>>741629018
>Switch 2
what the fuck

>>741623927
>Ironman run
Soldier Pyro Psyker into MT is extremely easy, just get Sanctic Staff once Act 2 begins
Make Cassia Grand Strat, also Pasqal, slap Missionary Oath accessory on Pasqal, make Eogunn Officer Overseer with Skull, give Argenta Litany of Hatred talent, you literally cannot lose
Especially after you rush for Invigorating Resolve accessory from Explorators Faction and slap it on a buffer Heinrix with Psy Raven Overseer

>Ship Ironman
Save all fuel + misc cargo from Act 1 for Navy in Act 2 since they now accept it
It's mostly about order of ship battles for Unfair Ironman Ship
Sotto Tomb + Orsellio Prophecy have easy battles you can rush for at first, then unlock Warp Wave + Jump ability from that ship post
After that rush for Mu-Rho 79 and help the Navy defeat the pirates there, it's a huge battle but you can just hide behind fuckhuge Navy Cruiser usually and let them kill enemies while you pick the weaker ones, just don't fucking put yourself in a position where the enemies would all focus on you, the battle (mostly) plays itself
That will give tons of Navy Rep + Scrap and most importantly should give you the 1st Fighters Deck ship summon, use that instead of Torpedo because they will melt Xenos ships in Act 2, their laser turrets always hits and you can control them without needing Torpedo Control ability + they don't explode after hitting + you can use them to block enemy ships by parking in front of them
You can then do Lagren's Belt or something as that gives a good free weapon, same for System Speculo

Stay the FUCK away from Mutant Station Battle added by Void Shadows with giga turrets because chances are you'll 100% wipe there unless you SPECIFICALLY know what you're doing, and also stay the fuck away from Odaenathus until end of Act 2, same for that huge Chaos Ship battle somewhere I forgot that burns your ship (Hundred Dreams Crossroad?)

>>741619972
An inquisitor's "power" is incredibly relative. A newb inquisitor would be able to IF he offered a good enough reason for it to the people that can actually push the button. If there's a massive chaos incursion or spread or if a tyranid hivefleet is already halfway done eating the planet, then an exterminatus is just the appropriate response and anybody with the minimum amount of authority for the order would give and have the order be followed through.

>>741612774
Who cuckolds you in this one?

>>741629327
The better answer is, whoever the writer requires it to be. And probably from what I know, the more important thing when considering the exterminatus would be planet value. Glassing a forge world won't happen easily, compared to some backwater medieval planet.

>>741616063
>Unlike Paizo, GW is quite hands-off with the studios that make games for them.
Are you fucking retarded? GW is the reason Argenta wasn't a romance, Yrliet was "asexual" and the female admech romance Owlcat was begging for in Dark Heresy isn't an option. They got denied AGAIN. How fucking stupid are you?

>>741616063
>Unlike Paizo, GW is quite hands-off
literally the opposite lmao

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>>741612774
https://files.catbox.moe/jvalfk.mp4
You WILL fuck the birb

>>741616063
>Unlike Paizo, GW is quite hands-off with the studios that make games for them.
They're much more strict with the games now than they were before. Both the Arbites and another Tech Priest being the previous two DLC companions were mandated by GW for their coordinated brand wide push. Notice that Darktide got Arbites and Tech-Priest characters the same time Rogue Trader did, alongside with GW minis.

>>741630616
>Both the Arbites and another Tech Priest being the previous two DLC companions were mandated by GW
Not this meme again

What does GW want? I already have a pile of shame developing can't keep buying plastic, especially not the current thing. Is it not enough to just be a simple hobbyist or do I need to buy the arbites and the skitarri?

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PASQAL YES

Anyway. RT has better combat because turn based is better than RTwP, if it has turn based bolted on the side, but WOTR was overall more enjoyable to me.

>>741630478
Not a romance option. Stop being dumb.

>>741630740
turn are objectively inferior to real time
RT has better combat despite being in turns

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Also, was Ulfar useless on release? I kept running into complaints about him when looking for ideas on how to build him. Eventually just settled on Arch Militant.

All my encounters after recruiting him was essentially me stalling until it was my Officer RT's turn when I buffed Ulfar and used Finest Hour on him so that he could solo everything in one turn.

>>741631024
He's quite strong but not overwhelmingly different to other characters at that level. Its just a pain in the ass having to move him around with his big size

>>741631024
Biggest issue I've seen is he comes in to late to want to use and him taking up so much space makes moving your team round a bitch

>>741630478
Fuck yeah I will.
>>741630757
She most definitely is a romance option.

>>741631237
>She most definitely is a romance option.
Source?

>>741631280
See in four months.

>>741612774
Played till the part you chose where to go and stopped, didnt want to spoil myself too much and i already went through alpha. From what i saw its pretty good, though im still not sure if i want to go from a power fantasy to a relatively small scale adventure.

>>741615804
You can continue the fight until the end. The game kills them anyway if you accept their "surrender"

>>741616292
>the only path in the game that makes any lick of sense to follow
?? So.. how do you rationalize the fact that a greater daemon is the only reason your character survives any of the events in the game if you're doing a dogmatic playthrough? How do you rationalize the fact that being struck with a chaos artifact that causes a daemon to invade your mind is a scripted event that you can't do anything to get rid of? A heretical playthrough is the only narrative that has any sort of consistency; a truly dogmatic RT would just commit suicide as to be free from corruption.

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can a smart boy explain to me in detail what was up with Pasqal? I just did his quest in act4 and I have no clue what just happened

>doing both Jae and Kibellah quests cause a bad end for Kibellah
That is so fucking retaded, is alot of bad ends just "Jae kills them"?

>>741616815
Abelard is fine with it & shuts down Edelthrad for throwing a tantrum about it. He is, after all, devoted to you & your dynasty as a whole.

>>741631805
Huh? Kibe and Jae feud until Jae is raptured but Kibe remains where she is

>>741628691
You give her a fortified mansion & name a voidship after her; it's pretty underwhelming.

>>741631750
Amarnat was 6 (or 5?) tech priests who merged their minds but then he learned how to shut down technology and couldn't decide if it was heresy or not so he split back into 6 individuals in the hopes that their unique perspectives might solve the conundrum when they merged back together. Pasqal's aspect was Judgment, which is why he's such a prick. He was meant to make the final decision but as you saw, the others wound up taking their own paths.

>owl cat launcher
lol

WHERES THE FUCKING FIX FOR BLADEDANCER OWLCUNTS

I tried playing the second Pathfinder game and didn't care for it that much, lot of dialogue for the sake of having a lot of dialogue but none of it seemed interesting at all, is Rogue Trader similar?

>only one ending where you have an Heir and it's from you
Bullshit hame

>>741632360
Lots of purple prose, yeah. If you want to talk to your companions, you'd better settle in for a bit of a read. Somehow item descriptions barely have anything at all for lore.

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>>741631750
Not sure I'm not spoiling something you will learn only in act V, but
Basically he was a dangerous heretek in all but name, worked on Necron tech, discovered War in Heaven weapon called Tech Blight (which made him develop a dangerous philosophy of Discontinuing the Cycle), created a hive mind entity called The Amarnat Collective he was part of alongside few other Tech Priests (you meet them through the game, all of them have this same name), and they decided to then dissolve their Hive Mind since they couldn't settle on a consensus to answer a moral question of this philosophy/tech, they wiped out their memory and simply thought they were students of Amarnat, their shared name was a gimmick that was supposed to put them together after a time
>>741623523
>>741628439
>>741628038
I believe that the chief reason that Dark Heresy is shorter is not making it more reactive with better choice and consequences, but so they can milk DLCs better. Even base Rogue Trader is a massive game, Act 1+2 are longer than most cRPGs out there. Each DLC adds even more content and requires more time to beat it. Many people complain about it. Shorter Dark Heresy will be a far better base to milk with more DLCs and ultimately may even end up to be of similar length.

>>741631280
>ugly bird that sweats shit and you can't fuck
She's almost guaranteed to be a romance option just because Owlkek likes feeling special by not giving you conventionally attractive women

>>741632458
niggas really be melting down over every single ending slide not having an "also you had babies" disclaimer

>>741633001
lil bro really trying to pretend he hasn't been begging for it since Kingmaker came out

>>741633037
I mean there's only two real choices for a not mutant kid. Either Jae or Kibellah

>>741633128
Jae does not have children with you and a child between a navigator and a human won't be another navigator

>>741631024
He takes up 4 spots and cant use cover
If you aren't building him well he gets raped turn 1

>>741632318
What broke on it?

Never heard of them until my twitter became filled with owlcat ads. I clicked "not interested" but I still receive owlcat ads daily. I bet their next game will win goty simply because of how artificially forced they are.

>>741617265
Depends on individuals

Some are buttmad at the E or Imperium as a system for /%reason%/
Some are KILL MAIM BURN schizos
Some want POWER (tm)
Some are "I wanted to be a hero - look how that turned out" *has a prophetic seizure* *bangs his head against a wall for 5 hours* *proceeds to skin thousands of people for .... uuuuuuuuhhhhhhh ....... like deep reasons or something*

>>741633128
Kibellah is a void born though so she is technically a mutant, just not genetically divergent enough to warrant purging, and she's also psyker.

>>741633557
Enough human beings are born on ships and stations that it's not even worth mentioning
You're just as likely to run into a Hiveworlder with as much corruption because of how polluted their shit is

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>>741621781
Was there a ruleset for playing space mehreens?
If it's so then I can see a legal chapter master game where you can either stay with Imperium or betray them and do chaos stuff

>>741627968
Based and correct

>>741634079
Deathwatch was more about running missions for the inquisition but did produce some cool lore

>>741628218
It's fine. I can't magine cheating on my Jimmy. I'll make him a merc and pretend he's right there

>>741629094
You don't have to use it

>>741624854
Yeah, WFRP would be more suited to a Disco Elysium-style game

>>741634834
You have to boot it up once to turn it off

>>741634854
You joke but I'd kill for a whfrpg game based almost entirely in a city like Nuln, carroburg, altdorf or middenheim

>>741635215
Why Carroburg?
The others are pretty developed, but I'm pretty sure Carroburg doesn't even have a canon colour scheme for its army

About Dark Heresy beta, has anyone actually beaten the Valkyrie fight if they went to the Lucid Palace after Manisportum? Because I swear they didn't playtest this shit at all with all the bugs, the crazy inflated enemy stats, and their bullshit abilities it throws at you.

Is there some launch option to skip the launcher? It wont boot for me.

>>741637496
you have to boot into the launcher and disable it there

>>741631024
>Also, was Ulfar useless on release?
Main issue has always been he comes late and is mogged by Argenta because of gear restrictions
He has more unique gear now but Argenta is even better nowadays due to Litany of Hatred

>>741637451
Well yes, obviously. It is a hard fight. Either try different approaches, or watch a youtube video. And stay away from broken windows. You get poisoned and die if you don't

>>741637839
There are videos of winning that fight only by people who went to the Lucid Palace first. Whatever location you go second gets buffed enemies. And the Valkyrie fight becomes pretty much impossible.

>>741637637
Ulfar's only good because he looks cooler when he kicks people

>>741635694
Former imperial capital, home of the carroburg great swords, you're right I'm a fake fan I just threw it out because it was a location I remembered from the total Warhammer map and I'm already running a game in ubersreik

I don't know if this is the right place to ask but is there a good shifter form for the main character in wotr? Not for the npc, something available to (You).

>>741638697
>home of the carroburg great swords
Irocincally it isn't, the Carroburg greatswords are an Aldorf regiment that got their name when sieging Carroburg

>>741639019
Fuuuuuck you got me again hari kiri time

>>741639349
Slayer oath would be a better idea

>>741638976
Try asking in /crpgg/

>>741638976
Shifter is quite the busted class.
Manticore Shifter for example is GODLY at ranged since as early as level 4 or so you have like 4x Ranged Attacks/Turn
For melee, Fey Shifter is great because you'll get a lot of attacks (5 or so)/turn even early and sneak attack too.
Weretouched is also amazing, you have a form for tanking (Tiger) and damage + free knockdown (Wolf). Rat is kinda whatever.
Protip: Werewolf + Demon Path Kalavakus Aspect means you instantly explode everything by touching them since you have free knockdown which procs a free attacks and it literally loops back and forth
TLRD: Trickster Manticore is godly at ranged, otherwise Wereshifter Demon

>>741612774
>All of the characters play the same.
I hate these low effort games.

>Eogunn doesn't even have ending slides
Why

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>>741644893
Bugs
There should be Owlcat version of pic related
They said there will be update adding more reactivity and such near the end of this month. So any day now

>>741613083
>force a surrender in the kroot camp with the gorilla still alive
>it kills the gorilla too
goddammit

>>741618428
RT base game absolutely was not complete, Acts 4 and 5 might as well not exist

>>741637451
I stopped playing when I saw Hypatia wasn't fully implemented

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>it's okay when Larian does it
LMAO not a single person complained about this.

>>741645884
Reminder that she's oddly interested in human reproduction

>>741646998
>oddly
There is nothing odd about it. Reproduction is just one field of study for biologists

>>741646939
I complained about it and took steps to avoid using the launcher

>>741612774
I hope they drop 40k soon. It's such a shit roleplay setting. It's really only good for action and strategy gaming.

Now, a Warhammer Fantasy CRPG on the other hand...

>>741647305
If you want another generic fantasy setting that's indistinguishable from another just go play one of gorillion other crpgs

>>741647417
I want more generic fantasy that shits all over gay DnD-slop, yes how could you tell?

>>741647305
If The Expanse is a hit, they'll ditch crpgs and turn into a nuBioware.

>>741647826
>The Expanse is a hit
lol. They literally have to use porn to shill the game. It's a blunder

>>741647305
Not a chance
Dark Heresy will release near the end of this year, or even next year. And then season passes and dlcs. Not until 2030.
And Expanse will flop. So they will need a source of steady and guaranteed income 40k is

>>741612774
How's this one shaping up bug-wise? Will I want to wait a bit after launch to play as usual with owlcat?

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>>741613280
yeh

>>741648629
I played the beta. The only annoying bug that I remember was not being able to traget anything which renders the game unplayable. But it's fixed by reloading. Not sure what causes this, probably alt-tabbing a lot. Anyway, the beta build is far more stable and bug-free than rt beta, or even rt release version. I think it's unironically shaping up to be their best game

>>741647826
It has potential and they seem to be going all in. Even fired the male protagonist actor and rerecorded all his lines because the first guy was a zesty lisping homo from San Francisco.

Do we have a portrait for Hypatia yet?

>>741648004
>They literally have to use porn to shill the game.
That's a good thing. You prefer the fucking hideous women like Epipen in DH?

>>741649430
Doesn't matter what I prefer. When devs have to dangle blender porn in front of the audience it's a sign of a failing game

>>741648004
Bro really is so low IQ he actually takes the shitposts he reads on /vg/ seriously

>>741649430
epione is cute

>>741649301
cool, really eager to play this one so I'll probably go for it early then

>>741649406
No but she's not a romance anyway. GW cucked Owlcat who were betting on her to balance the sausage fest demographics but they failed, so the sausage fest remains. Why is Owlcat so retarded. Literally all they had to do was make a traditional uncontroversial conventionally attractive woman, like an imperial guardswoman. Fucking idiots.

>>741649606
We don't know the romances yet and that includes her, it doesn't matter how much you spam this

>>741650507
>Owlcat begs GW for her to be a romance
>Meant to be the big waifu reveal for them
>Suddenly they try to bury her and only her existence in shame
Writing's on the wall

>>741651536
>>Meant to be the big waifu reveal for them
Source? The one with the statue is the kroot btw
>>Suddenly they try to bury her and only her existence in shame
No, they don't, she's just not finished yet retard

>>741612973
i never got tired of the argenta / kibbi power fantasy of just absolutely chewing through poor sods by the dozen. played through RT like 6 times.
but i think i'm just a simpleton.

>>741646939
I haven't used the Larian launcher, I haven't used the Kerbal launcher and I will not be using the Owlcat launcher.

>>741651616
>The developer is also pushing the boundaries of romance. Shestov acknowledges that a “main fault” of Rogue Trader was the unromanceable Mechanicus companion, Pasqal. Rejoice, robot lovers, because that’s changing this time around. “We are fighting hard to make this particular companion, the Mechanicus one, romanceable,” he says. “And it would be the craziest romance I've ever encountered in a role-playing game.”
Dumbass!

>>741616063
>Unlike Paizo, GW is quite hands-off with the studios that make games for them.
Yeah right. where is my sister of battle romance, orc companion and Tau ending than you faggot

>>741649430
you take my autistic wife's name out of your goddamn mouth