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Reminder that Marathon's playerbase is 70% on PC confirmed by Bungie.

So yeah, this is more or less all of the players.
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>>741612953
>40$
There's your answer
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If Concord didn't get its plug pulled, this would've been the result.
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>>741612953
Devs are chasing a playerbase that doesn't exist in the first place
If they are out of ideas, then they should just take a rest for a while
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>>741613396
>strictly PvP hero shooter
>with some extraction shooter shit slapped on
>3 small maps
>that's literally it
>$40
if we can see what's wrong, then why didn't any of the 800 people at bungie see it?
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>>741614885
They probably do see the problem, they just can't do anything about it because Sony probably (reasonably) wasn't going to allow them to take 3 or 4 more years developing shit after all the dev hell Bungie put themselves through. The higher ups got their money, I imagine they don't give a shit anymore.
250 million for this little content is insane.
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they tweaked something about the AI that makes them a chore to fight.

>shoot them
>they do an instant dodge and either fuck off from sight or directly lunge-attack you

these devs just hate their players, if it wasn't already appearant with the endless nerfs of everything already
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>>741615038
>The higher ups got their money, I imagine they don't give a shit anymore.
Oh, it's way better. Parsons looted the retention money, bought classic cars, SHOWED it to people right before laying their asses off. He's out and clear now.
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>>741615061
>these devs just hate their players,
I felt that way since the Destiny 2 vaulting, where they removed people's paid dlc.
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>>741613396
f2p wouldn't save this game
the free beta numbers sucked
the free week numbers sucked
there are too many half decent f2p games out there to bother with a game like marathon
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>>741615061
i mean, it's better than whatever this was
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So is the rest of the three months just going to be 10k players? anymore updates to spark some interest before season 3?
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>>741617123
PvE mode experiment later into the season
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>>741617247
Oh, maybe they're actually pivoting after all
Hope it's substantial
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>>741617303
some insiders are suggesting they're changing the game's core,but who knows what that entails. we know for sure that real PvE mode is objective-based and is coming in like 2 months. i just think they have too much to change for this shit to be successful.

no one likes the heroes and their designs, no one likes the extraction shit so the game's entire core foundation has to be smashed and replaced, the art style is hit or miss for most, there's no PvE content at all so they have to build a whole roster from scratch. they'd be making a new game at that point, and i don't think sony is patient.
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>>741617476
tassi knows damn well if they don't pull a complete 180 in terms of player counts bungie is getting dissolved ergo his career as well.
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>>741617476
>they spent close to four years making a barebones multiplayer game
>somehow make a pve in the span of a couple of months for a quick turn around
press x to doubt there's going to be any pve fix that has any content
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>>741613396
>Stinky brown 3rdie thinks he will get to play the 3rd most expensive game ever made for free
Lol you will never play gta6, star citizen or maratroon
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>>741617476
I don't fucking believe the criticism for this game, you just don't like it and want to shit bash. It's just unplayable because people like to cheat at PvP. It's a pretty good game. End of discussion.
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>>741612953
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>>741617792
>It's a pretty good game.
Then why did it flop tho?
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blast status?
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>>741617774
No one is ever playing scam citizen regardless of their socioeconomic status
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Sony wouldn't just layoff a large portion of the team after spending 1 billion on retention of the employees right?
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>>741612953
yep the only way it survives the year is going f2p forever
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>>741614885
toxic positivity
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>>741617961
the studio right now is 800 employees right now

if sony cuts it in half according to all those reports we saw last week then the studio becomes 400 people

that is still about 2 studios worth of employees
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>>741617971
>survive
>by making no money on each copy of the game
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>>741617774
anon.. normalfags can actually buy shit if they put their minds into it. Same with thirdies.
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>>741618064
that's already happening, except now there's no growth
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>>741617792
Good games with the amount of marketing, backing and f2p trials that Marathon got don't flop. Nothing you say can justify how little draw and available content it has for all the time and money spent on it.
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>>741617476
>some insiders are suggesting they're changing the game's core,but who knows what that entails
it means battle royale
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>>741618403
>with the amount of marketing
what marketing? normies don't even know this game exists. sony didn't do any promotion other than state of plays and trailers.
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>>741612953
season 3 will fix it
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>>741618047
With the average tech salary in Bellevue WA being in the region of $150k, 400 employees is still 60 million bux per year.
If SIE keeps them open, then it's out of ideological reasons or misplaced pride.
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>>741618452
Nice cope, retard.
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>>741618556
>With the average tech salary in Bellevue WA being in the region of $150k
Really? what kind of living standards do they have there? are the streets paved with gold?
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>>741618591
Not quite, but it's basically an extension of Silicon Valley.
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>>741618452
explain all these millions of views
and explain the youtube ads
and then explain massive twitch streamers like shroud, who averages 8k concurrent viewers on twitch and usually gets even more with new releases, who were paid to advertise it
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>>741618221
0 normies are buying extraction shooters because they cater specifically to a niech of edgy tacticool dress up barbie doll try hards.
Which marathon does not cater for as it's styled around fantasy LGBTQ+ Legos not military gear like tarkov or delta or day z
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>>741619130
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>>741614885
>800 people at bungie
this is the reason
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>>741619862
These huge development studios are so shit for this reason

Games have huge, glaring flaws but every fucking worker bee is just thinking "not my job I will stick to my assigned tasks and do what I've been told" and you just get pure slop output
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>>741612953
>down 1k this time last week
will we actually seek sub 10k peaks this week? might be very possible.
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>>741619130
Nta but do YouTube ads count as view numbers? Cause that's some sneaky shit
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>>741618452
>what marketing? normies don't even know this game exists. sony didn't do any promotion other than state of plays and trailers
lmao, they paid shroud, peanut, and summit1g to play this game for 3 weeks straight. those 3 alone got millions upon millions of eyeballs to the game. this not even counting the rest of the smaller streamers that were playing those 3 weeks. they got all the marketing they could ask for. game still flopped because it sucks to play.
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>>741612953
5k players is still enough that you get matches pretty fast.
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>>741620479
>Season wipe
>Less people want to grind again
>Not enough players from the free weekend/ 30% off sales
We will see sub 10k, and it'll get to 5k by the end of the season
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>>741612953
>confirmed by bungie
Source: lie
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>>741615401
f2p would actually get me to try it
but there's nuance to the f2p question as well
Highguard was f2p, I TRIED to try it, but it requires the safe boot shit enabled from BIOS, and that is not a hoop I'm willing to jump through, so I'll never know whether I would've liked the game or not.
If Marathon was f2p, I would try it, but if it requires similar bullshit to even let me start, then let it die.
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>>741620972
it was f2p for nearly 2 weeks not long ago
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>>741621226
And?
Once the period was over, I wouldn't be able to access it, because it's not f2p. And it's not a time period that I chose. There's more to it than just playing whatever and whenever, you need to have the right mindset and mood to play a certain thing, there's multiple aspects that affect your enjoyment and playing the wrong thing on a wrong day will just skew your perspective of the game. I don't force myself to play something on a day I don't feel like playing that exact thing, and that's why I despise free weekends and similar events, because they always come at a time when I have most free time, and why would I ever use that free time to play something like Highguard or Marathon, when I could be playing something that I know to be enjoyable?
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>>741613536
Needs some slight corrections, like multiplying by 100, but yes
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>confirmed by Bungie
source?
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>>741620673
>season wipe
>grind
what season wipe? free blue/purp kits like candy
what grind? they quadrupled rewards and made them easier
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>>741614885
Pride
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>>741617774
Why do you see it as a point of pride to buy a genuine pile of dogshit for a premium price?
Anyone, and I mean ANYONE can afford games due to regional pricing and third party vendors, but why would you ever touch the GTA series after SA, why would you ever get scammed by Star Citizen, why would you ever jump into a sinking ship like Marathon?
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The official Marathon reveal PlayStation blog page is a hoot. Verified PS+ users asking what is sony doing and for Bungie to kill themselves
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>>741620972
>but it requires the safe boot
That's a good security feature.
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>>741615401
I don't care to defend the game but free betas are a meme. I'm not buying the game even if I like it so I'm not downloading it just to play it for a couple days. I'll try it out if they go f2p instead of EOS
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>>741613396
when it is free, people play max for a few hours before hopping out and never play again
the price isnt the issue, the game is flawed right to the very core
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>>741615061
They should be harder if anything. I hate how Marathon & ARC both coddle you with easy to disperse AI (besides boss spawns). I want to be scared of them just as much as potential PvP contacts.
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>>741615061
>nerfing economy so everybody can't be stacked in golds on the first week of a reset
>bots are threatening
do you have any other feedback?
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>>741620972
>but it requires the safe boot shit enabled from BIOS
Nigger, if you buy a new pc, or anything after like 2024 it's on by default. That's a good thing even if you don't play any video games on it.
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>>741612953
1. it looks like generic slop fps thats a diamond dozen these days, 2. why the fuck would i ever trust bungie after they nuked content from their own game, i tried getting into destiny 2 and couldnt even figure out what the hell was going on, everything was so random
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>>741612953
There are more people playing Counter Strike 1.6 then Marathon lol.
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>>741612953
KWAB (KEK WHAT A BUCKBROKEN BITCH LOL)
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Only hope they have to save it is adding a PvE mode thats SEPARATE from the PvP mode. Otherwise it fucks up the loot economy which is what happened this season and people reached endgame in 4 days.
>>741625431
I'm not saying this could've saved it, but another really stupid thing they did was give free gear to people who tried to play when there were server issues which were 90% sweats. This meant that when the game was playable new players immediately ran into people with endgame shields that could tank a whole mag in the open and kill you.
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>>741618047
Funny enough, if they layoff down to 400 they would still be Sony’s biggest studio
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>>741626020
i wonder what theyre thinking right now
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>>741618556
>With the average tech salary in Bellevue WA being in the region of $150k
Aren't game devs notoriously underpaid and people who can end up moving to software development?
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>>741625895
It doesn't look generic at all but the gameplay sure is. Destiny is trash really don't even bother unless you think standing around in zones and shooting bullet sponges in FPS WoW raids is worth your time.
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>>741626319
So many performative AFKers kek.
Looking forward to when it's making more money again than dave the diver.
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>>741626039
>*tears in his eyes* just fucking shut down please, pleaseeeee
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>>741626020
Who the fuck is botting CS1.6 in 2026?
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>>741627412
marabros, the haters are resorting to comparing us to botted games now...
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>>741614885
The maps are large and it's not really a hero shooter in the traditional sense
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>>741613396
Problem is not the price. Free weekend did not magically get players breaking the concurrent cap.
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>>741627487
it's literally just an apex legends wannabe dawg, we have eyes
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>>741627527
lmao you clearly havent played Apex then lol
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>>741627453
>Marathon is so shitty and no one cares about it so it doesn't even have bots
Sad. I bet it doesn't even have real money trading because no one gives a shit about it.
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>>741627587
It doesn't have RMT because allied items are returned to the original owner upon exfil. I doubt there is a workaround.
>it doesn't even have bots
According to some retarded schizos here, it does.
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>>741621820
But I die and somebody took all my scrimblos :(
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>>741627587
Marathon is RMT-proofed, fortunately. Game returns your items after a match that you hand out to other players for that reason.
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>>741627587
Imagine spending real money on children's toys
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>>741627587
You just reminded me how much of a duped RMT-slop niggerhell current Arc Raiders is. Hope they solve that shit.
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>>741627820
>>741627776
Lose the "thirdworlder that will play your game because it's more profitable than work" audience
Lose the "whale who just wants to buy the best gear and have fun without farming" audience
Seriously why
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>>741627946
why not? That shit's cancer.
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the tarkov killers
it's even worse because most people play using bsg's launcher
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>>741630096
lmao this genre was such a fad
how did they even get popular in the first place? these games are miserable to play
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>>741627204
It was literally a top 3 Steam seller for a whole week you fucking retard, and now it's still no. 11. Most of the playerbase for Destiny is on consoles, too. They mogged Marathon incredibly fucking hard; probably what made Sony realize they won't make any money off Marathon so might as well fire the team and take what they can from Destiny now that it's finished.
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>>741630329
Wow, incredible mogged. So which game is getting further support?
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reminder that marathon itself is a decent game and >>>gamers should be rejoicing that a big company made a game specifically for a niche audience with full knowledge that it wouldn't become hyper-popular like v's favourite games, spiderman and god of war, available now on playstation five
i write as i furiously masturbate because bungie personally wronged me and seeing them desperately elevate their small project into a live-service nonsense to pay for their 30 fag@bungie initiatives after parson put the entire budget into shitty cars he doesn't even look at
god i LOVE when the world is just
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>>741612953
What a pile of shit.
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>>741630519
If they knew they'd only get a small audience then why did they spend over 200 million on it?
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Still funny but with less shills to defend it, it's not as fun to shit on the game.
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>>741630652
>Concord 3
wait did they finally shut it down?
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>>741630841
>implying shutting down is necessary to be a gigantic liveservice hero shooter flop that cost hundreds of millions to develop for a paltry playerbase.
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>>741630841
If SIE was smart, Marathon would never have made it to release- but there's something at play that's convincing them to keep shovelling money into the abyssal pit called Bungle.
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>>741630519
Dota, Hearts of Iron and Path of Exile are niche games. Marathon is something nobody would play if it didn't come with Bungies name attached and even that isn't carrying it much.
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>>741619130
>>741619151
Botted to hell and back, obviously
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>>741631135
>it doesn't need to shut down to be a Concord because... it just doesn't, ok?
If it was as much of a gigantic failure as /v/ makes it out to be, we wouldn't be having this conversation anyways. Game is still online months later despite "burning further millions".
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Reminder that destiny is dead and destiny 3 will NEVER HAPPEN
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>>741631429
>Reminder that destiny is dead and destiny 3 will NEVER HAPPEN
(and that's a good thing)
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>>741631429
i'm more upset that they revived proto halo only to turn it into a gay pvp hero shooter tarkov clone.
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>>741620972
the game was free for an entire week on S2 launch, if you didn't try it then you're not going to try it in the future. Not to mention the server slam and other free weekends they've had
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>>741630475
Your post would be an epic own if the answer wasn't a blatantly economically suicidal decision.
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>>741631368
Well, if sony is deadset on losing even more money to keep supporting the game, there is no amount of financial losses that will change that.
But let's be honest here, sony basically has nothing left, they axed half of their planned live service games, and paid a ridiculous amount for bungie to be their primary live service studio.
All that for the numbers marathon are pulling. If it was any other studio that released marathon it its current state, the studio would have been dropped after a week or two at best.
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>>741630630
>>741631182
because they weren't spending 200mil dollars back when the game was made for a small audience
there's an interview somewhere in the destiny general where marathon was in fact being made to be a smaller game to captivate a niche audience - a genuinely rare decision in the modern industry, where instead every game needs to be a huge golden egg laying goose slop
but when destiny stopped being a moneymaker (because bungie mismanaged the SHIT out of it), they needed to elevate their ONLY thing they had on hand into another destiny
as you can see it did not work at all
also it is a niche game, extraction shooters are niche, and whether you like it or not, marathon actually has a playerbase - a small one, mired in dramas, and definitelly not among the actual heavy hitters of the genre
and also the fact that marathon has its issues including bungie's midas touch of shit where random large-scale bugs appear (stuff like inability to revive on a single specific map, fully unintended), and not even the telesto kind of funny bugs
in a perfect world that'd be the end of the story - marathon would exist and be an interesting option from bungie. Option, not the ONLY thing they desperately want, nay, NEED to keep them afloat after they crashed the ship themselves with no survivrs
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>>741631671
>posts mixed niggerbaby out of nowhere
anon what the fuck are you doing
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>>741613396
I tried the game during the free weekend and I wouldn't even play it if it were permanently free.
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>>741630652
We have to stop diluting the word 'Concord' to mean every failed live service. Concord was the biggest disaster in gaming history. Calling every gaming flop a Concord is like calling every personal setback a 9/11 or Pearl Harbor.
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>>741631830
The niglet is Marathon. Think about it
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You will see the closure of Bungie within your lifetime. Happy now?
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>>741614885
Marathon showed up late to the party with an undeniably inferior product and with a ton of controversy. Why get Marathon when Ark Raiders is the hot extraction game that already does the sci fi twist, Escape from Tarkov has finally hit 1.0 with massive amounts of refined content, and even old unsung stuff like Hunt Showdown makes for a better experience?
I don't get why Bungie generates so little content despite their resources, or why their fanbase put up with it for so long.
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>>741632198
Agreed, Concord-like needs to be reserved for games like Lawbreakers and Highguard that crash catastrophically at launch and get near-immediate cancellation. Marathon is just a good old-fashioned failure, and that's fine.
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>>741612953
Nigger it’s been months, let it go already. I know you’re starved for flops, but obsessing like this isn’t good.
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>>741632198
$4 billion bungie acquisition+dev cost. Killed destiny 2. Marathon is unironically their only actively developed game and layoffs are on the horizon and coming in hard and fast. If that's not worth a concord, nothing else would be.
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>>741632760
>marathon is concord because destiny went into maintenance mode after 9 years
?
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>>741632889
Read the whole post next time, nigger.
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>>741630841
Not yet, but once EOS occurs, the Concord 3 title will be cemented. Right now, the commemorative plaque has been forged and is sitting in a crate, ready to be bolted onto Marathon's coffin.

>>741632329
Bungie has been dead for almost five years, anon.
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im not shelling out €40 for 3 maps. make it free, or fuck off
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>>741630259
whiny casuals need not apply
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>>741631429
Yeah well marathon's a better game anyway so
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I swear the shills have gone from "marathon is a good game"(lol) to "ok, marathon is not a good game but don't call it a concord"(lmao).
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>>741633048
>not yet
Thank you, that's enough. Unsure why you had to attach your diary entry from your manic episode though.
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>>741632495
Tarkov's too twitchy and Arc too casual. Bungie's got that PvP magic
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>>741616820
>that slow ass ADS speed at the beginning
Jesus
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>>741633241
5 maps
Perimeter
Dire Marsh
Night Dire Marsh (plays completely different due to cert system)
Outpost
Cryo
Season 3 will introduce 2 more maps btw: Jungle Fury and Snowy Cascades
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I swear the hatersissies have gone from "it's shutting down in a month" to "i-its having bad numbers, just fucking shut down already, Concord 3".
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>>741633383
>game comes out, only attracts a niche audience
>heh, get filtered, casuals!
>niche audience can't fund the game's future development, and the studio starts t panic
>help me, casuals!

>>741633463
The shills have been reduced to the following:
>oh, it's near death but HASN'T died yet? /v/ lost
>ok Marathon is a flop, but Destiny 2 stopped getting future patches first, so Marathon won

It's like the copes mutated into a weirder, more desperate cope.

>>741633519
>anon struggles to understand abstract concepts
How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast today?
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>>741618452
>advertised on the biggest Sony show of the year
>constant advertising on Steam during the free week, probably the same on console
Everyone knows it exists, no one wants to play it.
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>>741633552
it's an uncradled player with a grey shield
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>>741633601
>believes the random unverified "leak"
anon...
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>>741633623
>>niche audience can't fund the game's future development
sony's still supporting it thoughbeit
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>>741633667
i didn't see any leak but the new map should be ready in like a month and half

there is also a mid season update coming soon

they are making content like crazy, it already outpaces arc raiders 6 month approach
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>>741633669
Sony's desperate.
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>>741633669
Yes, and they're losing $5-6m a month for the privilege, on top of being $350 to $450m in the red on the project overall.

A publisher can withdraw support overnight, as seen with Highguard or Destiny 2. It's no guarantee of long term commitment.
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>>741633623
>calls the game's shutdown an abstract concept
oh, oh nono, ahahaha. chuddies, what happened?
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>>741619130
>explain all these millions of views
>and explain the youtube ads
bots, because the guy getting paid to do the youtube advertisement gets paid by number of views. Therefore he manufactures views to increase his salary.
>and then explain massive twitch streamers like shroud, who averages 8k concurrent viewers on twitch and usually gets even more with new releases, who were paid to advertise it
Oh boy 8000 people saw the game!
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>>741633749
>they're making content like crazy
>one new map
>one new class
>a small handful of guns
If that qualifies as 'making content like crazy,' you have exceedingly low standards.

>>741633779
The abstract concept was the plaque reference, you brainlet. Christ, I miss the paid shills. Even they weren't this bad.
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>>741633752
>>741633774

yeah and it's enough to fund future development and pick up more players :)
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>>741633864
>pick up more players
Shillbro, all Marathon has done since the f2p week ended is lose players. That's all Marathon has ever done outside of the dead cat bounce when s2 and the f2p week started (and then it started losing players immediately again, lmao)
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>>741633864
>yeah and it's enough to fund future development
No it's not. That's not even enough to keep something that requires no resources like Runescape running.

The only reason Marathon isn't shut down is because the studio cost Sony so much money to acquire, and it's been completely worthless.
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>>741633862
>paid shills
You genuinely need to take your meds
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>>741633864
>and pick up more players
Wishful thinking. Even the season 2 and extended free weekend didn't even manage to bring back the majority of the launch players or bring in new ones beyond the free period.
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>>741633989
we'll see...

It's got solid fundamentals, I don't see why you're so down on it
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>>741634019
>he does it for free
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>>741634082
>we'll see...
Yes, we will.
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>>741634082
>It's got solid fundamentals
According to who exactly?
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>>741633864
bharat warriors fail to understand that by "pick up more players", anon was referencing revenue
since, you know, businesses don't operate based on how many goyim are in the menus (see: Destiny 2 ending development)
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>>741634184
>since, you know, businesses don't operate based on how many goyim are in the menus
No, but there is usually a pretty strong correlation. More players = more people on average willing to spend money on microtransactions. Of course, your pajeet ass would fail to get this basic economic reality.
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>>741633749
>they are making content like crazy
my fucking sides
your standards are so low
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>>741633601
>(plays completely different due to cert system)
ah yeah, you go from just looting normally, to also needing to loot to find loot that lets you unlock loot. it's lit
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>>741619151
They probably told their discord army to watch the videos
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>>741634310
>More players = more people on average willing to spend money on microtransactions
Doebeit more than half the games outselling Destiny have way less players.
>Keep the game running in the background guardians! But never actually bother playing! (unless it's going into maintenance mode)
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>>741634593
First video is 3 years ago, long before they even had a discord and last I heard, the discord didn't have tens of millions of people.
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>>741626039
>let's make a Tarkov knockoff but cartoony and incredibly gay looking, that'll be sure to poach current Tarkov players!
Not a single good decision was made in regards to Marathon.
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Needs more wholesome PvE chungus
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>>741634759
I think it looks neat
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I wonder why sony refuses to accept that Marathon failed and is burning everything else to the ground instead, they had no problem to inmmediately kill Concord, what is different this time?
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>>741634843
Marathon didn't fail
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>>741634019
I know you're not a regular anon tourist-kun, but there were paid shills when the first free weekend started, then again at launch, then again around Cryo's release. Actual, legitimate paid shills from a third party stealth marketing company. It was only three or four (Sony cheaped out big), they used the exact same pool of images, had the same talking points, and worked the same schedule. And they all arrived and vanished at the same time. They shit out so many threads in the catalog that jannies had to start deleting them, even.

>>741634082
>it's got solid fundamentals
You mean the fundamental extraction PVP mode they're already moving away from in a panic because nobody likes it? Or the UI that everyone hated and they said they're making major adjustments and fixes? Those fundamentals?

>>741634962
This is more delusion than cope, but I'll laugh at it all the same.
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>>741630259
>how did they even get popular in the first place?
Corps saw that Tarkov carved out a nice niche for itself and thought they could tap into that market and make it into the next BR.
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>>741634843
Classic case of sunk cost fallacy and they genuinely have nothing else. All of their other live service have been cancelled, shut down or slowly dying. Their last live service still in development is Br€ak In (previously Fair Game$) and that has been in dev hell for quite some time so I doubt sony has much hopes for it.
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>>741635059
lmao you a shareholder or something?
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the PVE mode will save Marathon
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>>741633601
3 Maps
1 part-time event (weekends only)
1 map variant (spooky nighttime version)

Good extraction shooters have multiple time variants of maps available at all times, because they are popular and good so there are no insane queue issues (+ pve mode)
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>>741635169
Fun Fact: one of the most infamous cases of sunk cost falacy was when the british and french refuse to accept that their super plane was a massive failure and keep burning money on it for years to the the point the fallacy got a nickname after the plane: CONCORDe fallacy. That name is truly cursed.
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>>741617720
its pvpve in the first place, you just remove the pvp and double the enemies
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>>741635242
Ooo, are you the 'why do you care about the game's performance? Are you an investor?' shill? I love your copes, because they drip with desperation.
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>>741633463
What about the anti marathon shills that post in every single thread about other games?
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>>741635478
You're the one desperately clinging to user count as a final measure of the game's quality lmao just noticing.
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>>741635495
What you call anti shills are just people laughing at the game. And it's not like marathon get any legitimate threads talking about the game around here.
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>>741635684
It's an indirect gauge of quality, but most anons (me too) just use as a way to determine whether the game flopped (it did) and enjoy laughing at sony setting a pile of money on fire then adding more each week.

>>741635495
desu, the shills posting actual content from the game have done more to make it look bad than any shitposter ever did
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>>741621904
$40 for Star Citizen is actually pretty good, and the missions you do in game are actually enjoyable.
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>>741635741
they get pretty upset when someone claims to like it lmao. /v/ is too casual to get into it so of course there are no threads
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>User count doesn't matter in a multi-player only, entirely-reliant-on-matchmaking game where you can't even launch if enough players aren't queueing for the same mode
do maratards really?
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>>741635869
good thing there are enough players to launch then :)
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>>741635868
>they get pretty upset when someone claims to like it lmao.
Laughing at retards isn't the same as being upset. And as you say it's only "claiming" to like it.
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>>741635973
But it is a good game, why is it retarded to like it? Because it didn't satisfy the shareholders? You want more casual slop?
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>>741635942
Only in NA and barely EU during specific periods. Truly an excellent global success
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>>741613396
>IESLB
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I think this game is really good. I’m not sure why more people aren’t picking it up.
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>>741636056
oh you're brown, that explains it
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What's with all the self-hating jeets lately, getting a little pathetic
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>>741615061
>enemies that don't just stand still and get shot
>enemies that press the player
it's better than 95% of enemy design in shooters out there.
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>>741636048
Dunno, why don't you go talk about it with other people who like the game instead of coming around here to tell everyone the game is good?
Is it because even the /vg/ thread is dead and has been up for over 3 days without hitting bump limit?

>You want more casual slop?
So many stuff that would need unpacking to properly answer that, that I'll just tell you that the current AAA industry is a pile of trash. Marathon is a pile of shiny trash with garlands and decorations. What I want is not piles of trash.
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>>741617476
It means they're going to try ripping off what warframe has done by becoming a pseudo-dating sim
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>>741633601
>same map but pitch black
>map that's only available 3 days out of the week
lmao
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>>741636590
Because this is the Marathon thread so I'm talking about marathon :)
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>>741637161
Mocking marathon is also talking about marathon and has seen by the OP, this is more about shitting on it than talking gameplay.
You also dodge avery other point.
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>>741617123
It's pretty much guaranteed to fall below 10k peaks.

>>741617961
It's crazy. Like paying star wars money for bungie.
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>>741637331
every*
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>>741637331
you're the one crying about it
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>>741618452
About 50 million of marketing. Mostly streamers. Hired every streamer they could, even had hololive. Then did it again.

None of them stayed beyond the sponsored stream.

>>741619130
Everyone who's remotely interested in a similar game is aware of it and knows the gist. I think marketing got the job done.
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>>741620553
If they watch enough of it. There are some exceptions on format. But yes.
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>>741637331
cry more loserड्
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>>741620626
5k is small enough that the 9 man chinese cryo rape squad trick works way too often. And good luck finding fills that speak your language at that time.
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>>741637592
>ok, we spent $50,000,000 on marketing, what did we get?
>about 10,000 people who bought it, so $400,000 in pre tax revenue, and a lot of them bought skins and other MTX, so add on another $100,000
>..so, we spent $50 million to make $500 thousand
>..yeah.

>>741637684
be careful saar, you've already lost a dangerous amount of izzat in this thread
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>>741612953
k keep us posted
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>>741621820
>what grind? they quadrupled rewards and made them easier
You haven't kept up. They nerfed the fuck out of drops server wide, so the no lifers with l70 cradles, and the full cradle exploit were raping cryo with misra shotguns and gold shields first day.
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DROWNDROWNDROWNDROWNDROWNDROWNDROWNDROWNDROWN
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>>741637513
>start convo whining about "antishills" posting in every marathon thread
>Apparently fails to see the OP is shitting on marathon too
>noooo, you're supposed to have real talks about the game in every marathon threads
>accuse other people of crying about it
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>>741637883
I don't know who you're talking about but you start bursting into tears and calling people retarded the moment they mention they like it
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>>741630329
Hey, the gameplay is so floppy on destiny, it's natural to mistake them for AFKers.

But the fact that it gets way more rev than Marathon, is still a hoot.

Reminder: Marathon lost to THIS, in players, in streamers, in revenue, and they still decided to bet the company on marathon.
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>>741637953
No, I'm telling you to make your own thread. But we both know you won't because shit's dead as fuck.
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>>741637684
>cry more loserड्
>ड्
aint no way bruh this bait is too good
i refuse to believe pajeets shill maraslop
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>>741638001
So you're crying because you want a hugbox and it upset you to see people enjoying this game, got it
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>>741637782
>design a game where you have to reset the progression every few months or the sweat rape trains would become unstoppable
>start the new season and reset everyone
>sweats pile in and begin farming to regain their power advantage
>realize everyone is getting too much gear too fast
>sweats, being sweats, already overfarm and max themselves out
>loot gets nerfed, but the people most impacted are the regular players
>sweats start up the rape train and it's even harder for the regular players to fight back

What did Bungie mean by this?

>>741638041
You realize there was so little interest in Marathon that it couldn't even sustain a general in /vg/, right? Anons love to laugh at it because that's what you do with a joke of a game.
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>>741637684
SAAR GO CRYING
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pajeet means victory btw
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>>741627508
More importantly, it lost players over time, and the F2p left them at the same state that it started really.. The more they play, the less they liked it,

>>741630519
Based as fuck.
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>>741638041
No, your ass getting humiliated around here make these threads more entertaining. What I'm saying is you couldn't keep even one thread alive on positive marathon talk because that's how shit and dead the game truly is.
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>>741638141
yeah but you're crying for some reason
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>>741638246
so your crying?> ok
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>>741638246
not the game's fault that /v/ is too casual for it :)
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>>741613396
it wouldnt make it a good game but yeah f2p would be higher player count.
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>>741638158
>took your world for victory and gave it negative connotations
The raped.
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>>741638259
>>741638281
>defends flop game
>gets made fun of by anons laughing at it and him
>y-you're the ones who are crying
Shills aren't sending their best, god damn.
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>>741638349
You are crying though, just a few posts up you told me I ruined your hugbox.
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>>741638281
If this is the only you're gonna say from now on, I might as well NO U your ass. Enjoy arguing with yourself, lol.
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>>741638281
My what crying?
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>>741631368
>>741632198
It lost a quarter billion fucking dollars on launch and is losing millions more every month.

Most importantly, it suffers from the same bloated budget, and insanely out of touch hyper toxic positivity that the original did. I consider them directly linked because of Firewalk being ex Bungie and Bungie doing Sony's live strategy that doubled Concord's budget and accelerated it's development.

>>741631818
Right. If this game had launched with a low AAA budget, and had a reasonable sized team for improvement that matched it's rev, it would be a great short bite between huge projects.

But bungie is fat, bloated and incompetent.
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timmy means honored by god btw
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>>741632329
I owned Pathways into Darkness. Bungie died about the time they started stealing people's DLC, and threw it away rather than actually keep it.
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>>741638443
you loser
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>>741612953
>>741613396
>Bungie
There's your answer
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>it's literally jeet shills defending this game
Bungie needs to switch to AI bots, they would do a much better job desu
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>>741638392
I know you might not understand this, saar, but I'm not the only anon in the thread pointing out your retardation.

>>741638604
Times must be really tough if they can't even afford good AI shills and have to hire Indian marketers instead.
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>>741638667
I'm sure there are a lot of brown people here, SIR, yeah
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>>741632643
Respectfully disagree. Cancellation is a function on the company's willingness to lose money. It needs to die almost immediately though, and Marathon's launch was nothing less than a disaster.

>Marathon is just a good old-fashioned failure, and that's fine.
At least recognize it's status as bomb of the year. It lost more money at launch than twice highguard's entire budget, and has continued to lose money since. Almost no games have the ability to even contest this for bomb of the year, because their budgets aren't high enough. Maybe wolverine, Eday and GTA6.
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>>741638281
>ur cryin, ur cryin, ur cryin
This is you right now.
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>>741636559
Are you ... are you actually ? i didn't know this architype of human existed .... you are defending having Bots in your PLAYER VS PLAYER shooter.... Not like an interesting enemy type or monster... you are happy having AI humanoids with guns being your main enemy? in an online PLAYER VS PLAYER game... not a campaign single player game... a competitive pvp game that was sold as that.

Do you play counterstrike and fill up the lobby with bots too ?

I think someone should take your electronics away from you... you don't deserve them.
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>>741632719
>but obsessing like this isn’t good.
Where do you think you are?

>>741633463
It's the best they have to say about it.
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>>741638774
I'm telling ya, /v/ is too casual for this shit
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>>741636559
>Roblox robot soldiers are good enemy design
Come on, you people aren't even trying anymore.
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>>741633463
I still remember when they called Marathon the *** ******* killer, kek
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>>741638950
>*** *******
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>>741638950
Marathon is the Marathon killer.
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>>741634843
The difference is that this has the entire multi billion dollar bungie purchase on it, and that's big enough for normie shareholders to notice. Bungie fucking up got called out by name at the last shareholder meeting.

So the wildcard is, what the fuck should Bungie be doing? You would think they'd be making D3, or a Marathon that was a Halo knockoff for normies at a AAAA budget. But right now they 've got jack shit visible.

If you're sony, do you trust current Bungie with a half billion fucking dollars do do who knows what?

I think the big layoffs will tell us what their actual strategy is going to be. I think they're going to try for SOMETHING, with the timeline being for the PS6 launch.
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>>741639141
They already did it. D3 is scrapped and they have a smaller team to focus on marathon moving forward
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>>741634019
>>741635059
>>741635242

The social marketing company on Marathon is Kurpa Hosk. They run the r/s for this game, and also offer services managing your company and project's image, which includes a strategy for the haters here.

Any game with a AAAA class ad budget is going to have some sort of presence here. Even if it's just some intern dropping trailers and taking notes.
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>>741632198
concord 400 million
bungie was 4 billion in just that studio and dev+markering for marathon and the final paychecks to kill destiny 2
then bungie also was supposed to help sony make 12 live service games which was cut to 6 and only helldivers 2 was a success (despite sony and the swedish devs trying to smother it)
since 200 million seems like a common number per game, lets say 6 billion total
400 million vs 6 billion, which is the higher number?
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>>741638950
They should have publicly fired whoever did this immediately. It just makes them look pathetic and stupid.

Though not as pathetic and stupid as expecting this feminized gay bar shit to sell.
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>>741639378
>look it up thinking it might be some anon's schizo theory
>it's real
Ayyyy, lmao.
>https://www.kurppahosk.com/work/bungie
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>>741638887
>muh h-h-h-hardcore extraction experience for niche audience!!!
>strong aim assist, bullet magnetism, infinite free kits and hero abilities
/v/'s favourite multiplayer shooter is Deadlock, way to out yourself, retarded redditor
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>>741639496
lmao lol I think gaben's balls are getting cold steamie
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>>741639564
>steamie
SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
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>>741638141
oh, it's even more retarded. As a start of season gift, they gave the sweatiest, highest level fucks purple shields, so they could start raping shit from the very first game with a massive massive advantage. For the casuals, purple would be a reasonable choice for cryo endgame last season.
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>>741639639
it's you brownoids treating steam like it's some kind of /v/ sacred cow lmao I hate newniggers so much
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>>741639495
They're swedish. Why would you think they hire indians? I checked the job openings myself
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Wtf is up with the numbers trolling? Game is by Bungie, Bungie players play on console. No problem with getting match on pc too so why make thread the?
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>>741639495
>part of their marketing
>paid influencer said he liked the game he was paid to say he liked in response to his viewers who said the game sucked
They are not very good at this.
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>>741639713
You worship cows and eat their shit
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>>741639809
>No problem with getting match on pc too so why make thread the?
Good morning, saar
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>>741639738
You sure you quoting the right post? I didn't bring up jeets anywhere.
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>>741639875
okay weeper
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>>741639837
no, you're the indian steam slopper
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>>741639875
https://ne.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%86%E0%A4%AF%E0%A5%81%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B5%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%A6
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>>741639829
>They are not very good at this.
They don't need to be, because it only ever falls apart for clear failures like this. If the game is even just a mixed reception then the marketing strategy works to create an inflated positive perception as it will no longer be obvious, and that false positive will incite enough people to give money to cover the costs of the marketing.
It only doesn't work here because the dichotomy is simply too strong.
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>>741639913
>I didn't bring up jeets anywhere.
Don't worry, the jeets do a good job of bringing themselves up in these threads.
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>>741639263
Marathon was stillborn from the server slam, and they need another project anyways. I mean their strategy COULD be to ride this into the ground and get dissolved, but that was so stupid I didn't even mention it.

They drop the Marathon team to the size the rev can support, maybe 30 people, and what do you do with the rest?
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>>741639495
I think they did the best possible job for this gigantic turd of a game.

>>741639738
Enough other companies use indians, or outsource to them, that I think people just assume it's indians all the time. For some companies we actually have seen their job listings though.
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>>741640087
Not clicking that shit, Pradeesh
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>>741639809
This game is mostly PC. FPSes are like that. about 70/30 at launch.
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>>741638774
When i played during the free week, yes? I played solos, focused on doing the contracts, and mostly ignored or otherwise tried to disengage from pvp. it's not what im into.
>>741638915
i actually really like the tron-style uesc designs. yeah it's just blocks but that's the whole point of the faction. utilitarian, basic.
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>>741639809
It's 70% on PC confirmed by Bungie themselves
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>>741640429
Your tears ruin your vision. No such statement
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>>741640420
I'm glad it's not catering to casuals like you
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>>741612953
I give it 3 more months until they close down the studio
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>>741640467
It was observed by multiple analytics firms and then soft confirmed by Tassi talking to his sources inside Bungie. And Tassi has never been proven wrong about leaks like this, going back years.

So, keep crying bitch nigga. You're a terrible shill.
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>>741621725
This.
I mean, I tried the playtest. It was "okay". Didn't get very far because it was a playtest. It still looked like shit but it played better than it looks.
I *never* try free weekends. It's just not a good proposition. I have other shit to do or play on the weekend, and my time is more important to me than trying out some game that I'm clearly on the other side of the fence about (since I didn't buy it). Free weekends will never convert to sales for me and people like me. You need to move the fence if you want to stay alive.
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>>741640467
Where's your statement where bungie's saying the majority of their marathon playerbase is on console?
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>>741640579
Where is Bungie statement not your creative fiction? You said Bungie made a statement for 70% on pc kid
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>>741640646
Simple logic retard
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>>741612953
this is just karma for everything shitty bungie has done for the last decade and a half
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the collector's edition is unironically better than the Marathon game itself.
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>>741640731
>Simple logic
So, creative fiction, except you like that one and not the other?
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>>741640657
I know you're having a hard time following how 4chan works, Rakesh, but you're talking to two different people. (And both of us are calling you a braindead jeet.)
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I can't wait for the Bungie layoffs. I want to farm some salt.
>>741631545
So it's had multiple f2p events, and it's failed to even retain anyone? What an absolute shit game, lol!
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>>741640731
then prove it
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>>741640420
More like the troon-style designs
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>>741640859
>and it's failed to even retain anyone?
>failed to retain new players, failed to retain people who already bought the game and might have been interested in coming back for s2
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>>741640878
Platform Approx. Share of Active Players
PlayStation ~42%
Xbox ~33%
Steam (PC) ~24%
Epic Games Store (PC) ~1%
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>>741640859
It's got a narrow appeal to people who really love rape.
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>>741641140
>numbers pulled out of nowhere
>still don't apply to marathon
This nigger retarded or something?
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>>741641031
>failed to retain people who already bought the game
I think that's the craziest one. The game has to be bad if it fails to get people who already paid for a product to come back. It's just tells me that they value spending their time on something else than Marathon.
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>>741612953
80%
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>>741640731
That isn't logic, it's a numeric assumption. If you want to get logic involved: how do you explain Marathon's performance on the Playstation and Xbox store top seller lists, one of the few methods of estimating the opaque playercounts of console?
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>>741641241
https://warmind.io/
https://popularity.report/destiny2
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>>741641330
Marathon was never a major presence on the console top seller lists. In fact, Marathon lost a popularity vote on PS5 during its launch month to another game that launched that same month. (Can't remember which.)

It didn't perform on consoles.
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>>741641330
At this point, I think he's just being deliberately retarded to keep th thread up.

>>741641264
>>741641031
>>741640859
I actually checked myself. Loads of people, some who gave positive reivews, some who even came back a little for s2, but just flat out abandoned the game.

Because it's been charting at like 50 on the rev charts, they're still getting new players, but a net loss every week.

People buy the game, play it, and ditch it.
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>>741641373
what
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>>741630096

god damn, Arc Raiders fell off. But at least they made Arc Raiders on a shoestring budget.

If Arc Raiders can't hack it, what hope does Marathon have?
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>>741641552
Embark made back their money 10fold on Arc, so it could get shut down tomorrow and they'd be ok with it.

>what hope does Marathon have
It never had any, at least not once they decided on extraction PVP being the game mode. People straight up rejected the game when it got announced as being extractionslop.
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>>741632198
Gears of War E-Day will be Concord 4
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>>741641552
Marathon was made on a shoestring budget too, Sony just needs to cut all the baggage, ad a little more content to appease casuals and they've got a hit on their hands
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>Welp, Marathon lost another 1k~ consistent players this week
>Better lay off some more Destiny staff
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>>741641649
I thought that was a single player game
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>>741630259
Suits wanted untapped hero shooter/battle royale market.
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>>741641373
Bruh, we're talking about marathon, not destiny.
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>>741641751
>three weeks after the big patch
>within 1k players of falling beneath 10k
>zero growth, literally none
>Sony spent almost half a billion on this game
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>>741641816
>untapped hero shooter/battle royale market.
That ass has been tapped out for like half a decade already.
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>>741641692
>300 million ameritokens
>Not even counting the price of buying the studio itself
>Shoestring budget
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>>741612953
KEKAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>741630096
>>741630259

Hunt Showdown is supposedly doing well or at the very least making a profit.

But then again, a bunch of folks would object to calling the game an extraction shooter in the Tarkov mold.
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>>741617720
>somehow
i mean destiny exists and it's the same engine, if it is some sort of unique experience and not just a mesh of gambit and Slayer on some huge ass map with ledges the size of glaciers i'd be surprised
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>>741617720
It already has pve content it's just casuals whining because they can't handle a little pvp lmao
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>>741643337
The consistent bleed means even the sweats are leaving. There is definitely something real fucked in that game.
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>>741643768
>even the sweats are leaving
I suppose there's even an upper boundary to rape before it too gets boring.
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>>741619151
>22 million views
Was that hate watching from Destiny fans? Kek. Not even Skyrim had that many views on its reveal trailer and it sure as hell sold more.
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>>741644195
It was people that watched out of curiosity and found out it didn't look interesting at all to warrant a purchase most likely.
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>>741644195
Some sponsored ads are counted as views if they pay enough
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>>741644285
All they had to do was to not make it ugly and it probably would have been a success
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>>741644657
The original announcement trailer looked cool, most probably because there wasn't any gameplay in it.
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>>741642582
eh, it's technically an "extraction" shooter in the sense that you have to extract from certain fixed points on the map
the actual loot you want to take out of the match hardly matters compared to those other games
money is basically infinite after a certain point, and the game is heavily focused on prestiging your account
hunt only has one or two points of interest (bosses) that everyone goes to every match, and the maps all feel pretty sameish
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>>741612953
The cutoff for where you stop being based for standing by your agenda and start being childish is when you stop living in reality.

Nobody wants the shit that Bungie wants to make. At some point in the process of justifying why you deserve a professional wage for making something with no market, you have to become a hypocrite.
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>>741636056
>queue times are horrid in my third world shithole saar
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>>741641142
But we have Rance games for that



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