Oh. Oh my. Wow.>6 months without an updateYikes...
>>741617765More players than marathon when it was given for free to play for a week and is also a game that filters filthy casuals away.
Marathon flopped
>he keeps making the exact same thread
>>741617765>game is in active development>alpha version>no updates for half a yearThis shit is getting so cancelled soon
but the Rem/Graves/Apollo update was like a month ago
>>741617765How much more sweaty is this game compared to other MOBAs? Be honest.
>Public beta release in 2 days for Steam machine hypeTrust.The.Plan.
>>741618079>numbers get lower every time he does
>>741618142it's counter strike on top of dotait's sweat squared
But what about Artifact?
>>741618142it can be pretty fucking sweatythen again theres streetbrawl
>>741617765Didn't you get enough updoots when you made this thread a few hours ago?Awwww.
>>741618142overwatch veritcal gameplay + movement sweat gameplay + moba macrosyou can get by being decent but you will feel instantly gapped if someone has decent knowledge of all of those
>>741617765It's reaching 200k when they release the next 6 Heroes and the pve gamemode
>>741618430>pve gamemodeis this planned? cause they still have a shitload of work to do on the current map plus new heroes/items etcseems like something that would release in a few years at best
>>741618142The barrier of entry is higher for a new player but once you're past that you're honestly bing chilling. I settled around Oracle just by playing the game focusing on trying new characters and build, not even tryharding or OTPing. In LoL I'm high Silver and in Dotard I peaked at Guardian. Even losses don't feel as bad in Deadlock.The problem is that the barrier of entry was already high when I played in May 2024 and everybody was knew and nobody knew wtf they were doing, now a new player has to contend with autists with hundreds or even thousands of hours with lackluster tutorial. They'll have to rework the tutorials and improve MM for new players bigly before they open the game to everyone.If you're mid at shooters and mid at MOBAs but enjoy both genres it's the new crack cocaïne
>>741618616>now a new player has to contend with autists with hundreds or even thousands of hours with lackluster tutorial.I've never understood why people say thisIf new players perform bad in their placement matches, they'll get placed in the shitter brackets, with/against players who don't know that shit. That's always how it's worked in every game, that's half the point of MMR
>>741618118It is a well known fact that contemporary underages all have no attention span and consider giving something 1 second less attention than before equates abandonment.
>>741617765>release is years away>already looks dated as fuckAppealing to people on 20yo toasters makes no sense in 2026
>>741618695There's ranked in the game? Is that "highly competitive" flag in settings or what? I've been playing for couple days and haven't seen the rankings anywhere.
>>741618734>appealing to dota 2 and cs audience doesn't make sense
which deadlock is weak to anal ? Mina haaaaaa is an obvious one.
>>741618695>new players perform bad in their placement matches, they'll get placed in the shitter bracketsIn theory, in practice I had a lot of new players in Ritualist and Archon lobbies after the Old Gods New Blood update and they couldn't even derank with sub 45% wr
>>741617765DINGDINGDINGDING!!! GIVE IT UP!! 6 MONTHS WITHOUT UPDATES TO THE DAY DINGDINGDING!Old gods came out HALF A YEAR AGO VALVE TOOK THE MONEY AND FUCKING RAN
>>741618525>a shitload of work to do on the current mapthey only have jungle rework left, map is more or less complete since they're fucking with side objectives now
>>741618814It actually doesn't, because CS and DOTA2 autists will keep playing the games they've been invested in for decades. Not a single CS player things GOD I WISH I HAD CREEPS TO FARM RN when playing a match, same goes for DOTA players - none of them want to bother with recoil patters. >posts tranny characterofc
>>741618795It's a bit like the unranked mode in dota. You do technically have a rank at all times, but it's hidden unless you go looking for itIt's in your match history iirc, near the top left. There's two buttons like "time played" and "skill rating". Clicking skill rating takes you to it
what is it about deadlock that triggers faggots so hard ?
>>741618906after the cs market crash, 0 dota updates, and increasing attention from esportniggers they will have no other choice>recoil patters>in deadlocklol, retard
>>741618985ValveThey'll take any opportunity to poison the well because they want Steam dead
The last update was 10 days ago?https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/667242081733838158
>infernus ulti with some duration (that also synergises with all of his abilities and many of his items) becomes a 3 second stun that covers the entire screenIs he being slept on as a teamfighter or what?
>>741617765Remember Artifact and how Valve split up the player base?
>>741619204>balance tweaks>update
>>741618985They're mad that they didn't get a invite. Nothing pisses teenagers off more than a community they can't enter.
>>741619205most retards stills plays him dash because they saw a comp match once
>>741619243Can you explain why it doesn't count?
>>741619243>UPDATE YUOR GAEM!!>there was an update less than 2 weeks ago>ITS NOT THE ONE I WANTED
>>741618142its baby tier. its a shooter/moba for those that are too shit to play cs and league/dota but not brown enough to play overwatch
>>741619260>can you explain why the lack of meaningful additions and content for an actively developed multiplayer game doesn't count?
>get enhanced infinite rounds as VenatorA VENATOR WILL NOT BE DENIED SILVER'S BUSHY WEREWOLF PUSSY
>>741619347and what exactly do you want so desperately added?
>>741617765Second highest player count for a pre-alpha, behind 2009 Minecraft.
>>741619369TRAPPER YOU FUCK
>>741619369slork
>>741619259I play him dash too because you can zoom all over the map eating all creeps...
>>741619369bohoI want more witches with big witch hat in my vidya
>>741619381Ah so it's only "meaningful" if it's your specific broken character
>>741619353
>>741619424bad anon, you stop thatyou vill carry the russian haze in your team and you vill rank up
I am now realizing that modern /v/ would be VERY retarded about Minecraft if the alpha/beta happened this year instead.
>>741619469>I am now realizing that modern /v/ would be VERY retardedyes
>>741619148what cs market crash? the slightly above average player's inventory who had some red items went up in value and i got free 400$ for having a few red items that i got for free, its only knifeniggers that got rekt, but they are a small % and hyperaddicted to the game to never ever quit, they dont play anything else.and dota 2 got a lot of updates in the recent times with just the map changes so idk what you are on about, nobody from those two groups will play deadlockslop, its too simple and slow.
>>741619469modern /v/ wouldn't be modern /v/ without minecraft, for better or worse
>>741619456I prefer that ship over Celeste.The only thing Celeste should be close to is my cock.
>>741619469Everyone was shitting on Notch when content updates slowed to a trickle after Halloween update, you fucking newfaggot niggercunt
>>741619243Whats this creature and why does it look like Putin?
>>741619547Yeah, I'm sure you were numberfagging over its alpha version too.
>>741619259>>741619424This. You play Dashfernus because of compslop trickle down meta. I play Dashfernus because it's fun. We are not the same.
>>741619467I don't even know the difference honestly, i just built a bunch of spirit items which just happens to include duration, escalating exposure and rapid recharge. I just focus the least on afterburn since I can't aim for shit
>>741619675spirit overflow on the 'nus powerspike you so hard it's not even funny. A single tier 4 item propel your power into negromancy level
>>741619901How early are you supposed to go it? Like at 15k?
>Majestic Leap + Last StandYep, it's time to change the world
>>741618142i don't know if it's really "sweaty", but seems like a very top-down designed kinda game, like they started off with a concept like "what if we combined moba and fps" and then tried to make that fun, rather than "oh we discovered something that's fun, let's build a game around it" approach that most classic shooters used. the end result is an unintuitively designed game since you are punished for engaging with the actual pvp shooting parts. what you are actually supposed to do is run around doing chores so that you can stomp the enemy with your better stat growths. desu i think combining RPG like stat growth mechanics with pvp shooting is like a satanic perversion of video games and should never be attempted. the dota 2 team is just kinda amateurish at game design so couldn't figure that one out. the micro-RPG gameplay only works in dota 2 because it's explicitly a strategy game first, and not a shooter. there's no way to "skill diff" your way out of lion pressing his buttons on you to kill you every time he sees you, you have to farm bkb and use it to kill him. but i digress.i think the game is like tailor-made for the asiatic choregame brain, since those are the only people who can tolerate this kind of game design
>I am... forgotten
>>741620243It's like you say but the aesthetic is crafted to appeal to westerners. It will end up appealing to very few
>>741618897its still very barebones, especially the clusterfuck above midboss
/v/ stands for Valve.
>>741619630its the cute sphinx from dragons dogma
>>741617765a lot of mobas go DOA because they think that having four characters is enough. same with hero shooters.
Get woke = go broke
>>741620457>above midbossdo you mean like center of the blue lane and bridge or the subway section with crates? the latter already had an artpass so I doubt they're changing it
>>741620390yea i feel like that only leaves russians, because they have the choregame brain and they also go crazy for marvelslop kinda design
>>741620508I want sphinx paws in my face.
>>741620604did overwatch have huge russian esports scene or something?
>>741620549the area directly above the midboss pit, still janky
>>741620604>marvelslop kinda designDon't you dare to compare Deadslop's cucked westoid designs to marvelkino
SOON!!!
>>741618142It's unironically the sweatiest game in the world in its main modeThere is street brawl which isn't as sweaty, and they are working on coop mode so it will get better
>>741617765>>6 months without an update>game is only fun if it gets updatesDoes this mean it's just a bad game? Every time I watch someone play it, they seem unhappy or russians.
never
>>741620390>crafted to appeal to westernersdota was crafted for westerners too and it was popular around the globegood designs and fun gameplay appeal to everyone
>>741620681its f2p and easy to cheat in at least so its popular
>>741620690Gee I wonder if this is screenshot is going to just be a cumbrain one... oh look at that
>>741617765uhm sweetie, the game is still close beta once it's out the game will have billions, no trillions of russians playing
I fall in and out of it.The characters, movement mechanics and lore are all goated.None of my friends were autistic enough to get past Initiate. My gf was ranking up with me but she got ragebaited one day while I was at work, proceeded to crash out and got herself stuck in low priority.I refuse to solo que so I play other stuff.
>>741620885>she got ragebaited one day while I was at work, proceeded to crash out and got herself stuck in low priorityelaborate
>>741620839Yes, I won't play your game if it doesn't have hot sexy chicks in it, simple as. Hence why Deadslop was made with westoid mutt zoomers in mind, you can clearly see it in character designs. They're don't want to scare away people who are afraid of sex.
>>741620690Now post the other Emma Frost skins
>>741620983Does free one count?
>>741617765DEADlock
>>741620706If you just made the jungle mobs and roshan fun and strategic to fight this game would be almost perfect. Imagine roshan as a giant kaiju that like blows up the ceiling and becomes giant during his second phase.
>>741621084why does she look like david bowie
>>741620885>None of my friends were autistic enough to get past Initiate.That's not even a matter of autism, that's a matter of mental disabilityThey can't even break out of the bottom 5% of shit players? Against the kinds of opponents who can't even finish a match without afk'ing to smoke a blunt? What the fuck anon
>>741621149Big futa cock
>>741620885Your girlfriend sounds based, is she single?
>>741620936She feeds the trolls and then gets angry to the point of throwing. She was retarded and deserved the punishment.The actual ragebait in question was probably your run of the mill shit, I've honestly forgotten the story.
>>741620885>ragebaitedin my times we called that doing a lil' bit of trolling*dies of old age*
>>741621197Yes. It was painful. They preferred Marvel Rivals.
>game filled with slavsWhy would I play that? I don't hate myself enough. If I want to play a moba again (I don't) I'd just play dota.
>>741621197>>741621334Actually I will give some credit. This was around the Doorman update. Half the playerbase was in initiate back then.That said they were still terrible.
>>741617765>38 playable characters>only 5 white girlsI will not play your game
>>741622575>only one of the 5 is blonde>but she's also a furryWhite people won't play this game.
>>741622575This game would be even better with 0 w*men
>>741622795>TFaggots2 playerDon't you have bots to play with while you jerk off to bara porn?
????
>>741622860AGP coded post
>>741617765Did they ever roll back the retarded urn changes?Everyone i used to play with dropped the game because of that nonsense. Ended up quitting myself too since playing alone is kinda boring.
>>741623387They tweaked it to KOTH and changed the dropoff location but it's still not the same as it was before the changes.
>>741623387>>741623570What was it like before? You had to carry an urn from the enemy side of the map to your base or what?
>>741618142>deadlock>sweatmaxxed ultra autism no fun allowed>streetbrawl>yep its gaming time
>>741617765>never actually released>invite only>no updates>more players than $200 mil games that were in development for 8 years
>>741623654Urn spawned on a side lane and you had to run it to the other side lane, dropoff was instant.If you had a x% soul lead, the urn deposit was on the enemy side of the map.If you had a x% soul deficit, it was on your side of the map.Don't remember x.
>>741623654>was>pick up urn>carry it to the designated spot on the opposite side of the map or in your/enemy jungle>stand still at the drop-off for 3 seconds without anyone punching you>later they changed it to just touching the drop-off
>>741623857Oh yeah, I can see why it's incredibly easy to do on some characters.
>>741623857>>stand still at the drop-off for 3 seconds without anyone punching you>>later they changed it to just touching the drop-offthat's not the change everyone is mad about, it's when they turned it into king of the hill slop mid lane with melee to claim the urn while it's being deposited
>>741622930Now lets see the content added in these updates
>>741624015The KOTH is better though. It actually gives a suitable time to contest and encourages multiple people to engage.I hated the instant turn in>>741624054The urn stuff we're discussing. Few pages of balance changes, new item, scaling rework.Whatever you see as the meta changed with it.Just because it doesn't have a new hero, doesn't mean it's not an update.
>>741617765>blatantly lying >nobody calls OP out on his bullshit /v/ is deadlong live /v/
>>741617765It's obvious there's some degenerate furry savant dev in the team that's holding the entire game hostage A normal, well-adjusted team would not permit garbage like Rem existing But as usual piece of shit furries have no artistic integrity nor any sense of long term planning, seeking only immediate succour, and a feeling of power and validation for their disgusting fetishGame's fucking dead
>>741617968didnt marathon have like 40k on free week?
>>741624054
>>741624182Bharatians ragefarming for impressions.It even reads exactly like the rest of the chart posts about other games.This whole site is a ghost town.
>>741624219OP is a disingenuous fuck
It got a major update like three months ago though
>>741624457Old Gods New Blood was in January bro.
>>741624294>hp changed from 800 to 799>damage changed from 10 to 11H U G EThat is totally how an update for actively developed multiplayer game should look like
>>741624883They have a sekrit club where they actually test the new content and in that test they purged all the leakers so basically there's some shit being worked on but we don't know what, the main build is basically when they need stats on a large sample of players or only the finished content (old gods new blood).This is because the Uncle Dane leak opened the floodgates and the feedback wasn't qualitative, on top of that ecelebs were polluting the discourse and didn't understand experimental things like Hero Labs.
>>741624883It's exactly how MOBA updates are.Adding 1 to a stat where everything ramps up and particularly in this game where things are increased by multipliers from item investment.
>>741617765I miss the days when games weren't released until they were complete and nobody had to worry about updates
>>741625116>It's exactly how MOBA updates are.MOBAs get events, skins and new heroes regularly.
You can see them getting desperate with this, they started adding coomerslop characters and redesign old ones because they previously had 90% concord tier designs. Didn't work since some characters are so common and unfun to fight most people uninstall after like 2 games
>>741625458No they don't.
>>741617765DEIFLOP
>>741625669no one cares mexican
>WHY DOES THIS CLOSED BETA NOT HAVE 500 GORILLION PLAYERS? LE DEAD GAMEhow many times are we going to make this thread
>>741625458And this one is still in the invite stage, there's no monetisation, so no skins. But events are the rarity, not expected. New heroes might be once every few months/a year.If you're going to lie then don't bother doing it to people better in formed than you, someone that apparently hadn't seen regular MOBA update notes before.>>741625669When her face isn't in the game, her voice is pretty fucking right for a ritualistic deity.
>>741625731spics and slavs are the only ones playing this trash lmao.
>>741617765that's like 3x marathon numbers, what a flopMarathon is doing great though
>>741625827fitting for why you'd talk about you filthy bean monkey
>>741625857>Marathon is doing great thoughunironically
>invite only, unreleased game doing bigger numbers than 95% of games on steam
>>741625024>finished content (old gods new blood)I hope not, some of new heroes have really janky (reused?) animations and in general the level of polish is nowhere close to what you'd expect from AAA studio.>>741625546>90% concord tier designs.Worse. The game unironically had Battleborn tier designs. See Yamato.>>741625805>closed betaOpen beta, absolutely anyone can get an invite.
>>741625669We love Debra here, thoughbeit
>>741626126>the designs are terrible if you use the ones from back when it was a completely different game
>>741626001she hitler reminds me of a famous Chilean TV personality called Carla Jara. No I'm too lazy to post a pic.
>>741626126>anyone can get an inviteThe mere fact that you need an 'invite' makes it by definition a closed beta
>>741626215Are you implying that newer designs are better?
>>741626269Also makes discussion of the game on volvo's own fucking forums impossible since they didn't make a seperate area for invites so 19/10 topics are invite spam
>>741626269Closed beta: developers send a limited number of invites.Open beta: developers send an unlimited number of invites.Deadlock is in open beta, absolutely anyone can get access for free, you just get it from other players (literally any youtuber) rather than having to get one from the dev site.
>>741617765so how much money has this turd lost so far? Reminder it has made zero (0) dollars
>>741626330Do not use pictures of my wife for your shitposts thanks
>>741626415>Having to redefine open beta just to try and win an internet argument
>>741626415>developers send a limited number of invites.>you just get it from other playersI'm getting mixed messages here.So, you have to ask a player for an invite, and the devs don't just send it to you?Hmmm.
>>741618142Dota + Counter Strike + movement shooter with everything imaginable - sliding, double jumps, dashes etc., it's the sweatiest fucking game imaginable, just look at how top ranks play and you will never want to play it. With other games seeing top players is kinda just "yeah, pretty impressive but I could do that on a smaller scale" but with Deadlock, you really fucking can't.
>>741626592>and the devs don't just send it to youSteam sends it. But you can be flagged for that invite by literally any player.
>>741626440Tranny
>>741626721>Steam sends it.No, a player chooses to send it to you. Do you not even have conviction in your own arguments?
>>741626330Kind of a common trait in gargoyles. They struck a good balance between what she is and the artstyle.
>>741617765I still can't play ivy again over how hard they raped her kit, if you're not sweating the whole match with her you just lose, also almost made it to archon when started like 2 months ago, then lost twice and it has been sent directly to shitter elo since then, not a single match without at least to people going 4/15
>>741626830Your mom is, but I still did her (male)
>>741624578Arguably the March update was far more impactful by fucking up the game's balance beyond all recovery.
>>741626853>a player chooses to send it to you.Then it would arrive immediately. In reality it takes from several minutes to several days entirely on Steam's whim. >Do you not even have conviction in your own arguments?NTA you are having a spastic fit over open and closed beta. Just affirming that it's Steam that invites you and the player just flags you.
>>741618897Where exactly is pve confirmed tho???
>>741627050>Then it would arrive immediately. In reality it takes from several minutes to several days entirely on Steam's whim.It doesn't, I'd be happy to concede if you could provide proof of your weird claim though.>NTA you are having a spastic fit over open and closed beta. Just affirming that it's Steam that invites you and the player just flags you.I mean if you can't see the irony of what you typed I don't know what to say.
>>741626925>shewill never pass
>>741627118You're applying human standards to a living rock.Pretty desperate reach to slander a character.
>>741627182>You're applying human standards to a living rock.You just called a living rock a female, troon lover.
>>741627110>It doesn'tIt does. Deadlock steam threads with invites. Go see for yourself. It's rarely instant. Sometimes it never comes.>if you can't see the ironyThe fuck is this snark salad? I simply told how invites work. It's you who continues the open/closed beta argument with a wall. Do you know what NTA means?
Rock (female)
you don't understand, we can't add new content because our only two employees are currently fucking with the urn mechanics for the 100th time
>>741627338>It does. Deadlock steam threads with invites. Go see for yourself. It's rarely instant. Sometimes it never comes.So your proof is anecdotal and you're not even willing to actually link one of the posts? Really?
>>741627310Well yeah, you can sculpt male and female features.If you see a painting of a woman, you don't refer to the subject as "it". You refer to her a woman.
>>741626330>trannoid character>nose ringEvery time. Still, looks wise Ivy is probably the most realistic representation of a M2F tranny in a video game yet.
>>741627473What is it with /v/ posters and being obsessed with trannies? It's like you actively want characters to be trans.
>>741627473You claim to hate trannies, why are you insisting established female characters are actually men. It's like you want this.
>>741627470>this is a female body according to a troon loverJust rope yourself, waste of air
>>741627553A female gargoyle, yes
>>741627553Yes, of a gargoyle, it's not a human. So don't apply human standards.And stop trying to make characters trans.
>>741620369I think people will be more on board with her once her design is revamped away from the SciFi shit.
>>741627606>>741627585Rope yourself
>>741627447I've told where the invite consensus is. But, okay. Do you have evidence of it being instantaneous and not from the steam?Invite email is literally singed by steam team. Where is this autism going?
>>741627730>Do you have evidence of it being instantaneous and not from the steam?Yeah, myself and literally everyone else.
>>741627716NopeNow look at another picture of my gargoyle wife (female (rock))
>>741625669https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMh_APo2Xss
>>741626932How was her kit raped? Isn't she stronger now that she has a much stronger stone form?
>>741624196yep. I'm sorry, but these sarcastic, quip throwing, faggy character designs are just insufferable. campo santo/sweet baby inc seemingly left lasting damage at valve
>>741627716nono seriously. If you hate trannies so much, why are you trying to turn a female character into a man?
>>741627787So anecdotal? Very hypocritical, lil' spregy.
>>741627816For me there's only one way her kit got fucked, and that's removing double tetherShe NEEDS it back, permatether is just shit in comparison because it doesn't give you any extra healing you weren't already getting from just pressing the button normally. You were almost always going to tether before health nova'ing or when you get into a fight
I think deadlock is the best competitive slop ever made. Because of the skill ceiling it is also the most infuriating one.
>>741627858Well yes that is kind of the point and not really the gotcha you think it is
>>741627882Fair, i guess she also lost the knockup on ult bomb right?
>it's not a tranny, it's stone!>look, stone can have female body too!>n-no, you can't apply human female body standards to gargoyles>LALALA CAN'T HEAR YOUEvery time. That's exactly why I have Ivy banned in my matchmaking, trannies is the last thing I want to see on my team.
>>741627943If you think about trannies while playing games you are mentally unfit to play anyway. Go outside
>>741627912>present evidence of something I lack the evidence myself>lol got you broEpic. I always forget just how far on the spectrum this board is every time I participate in the polemics.
>>741627916Yeah she did, which had a pretty nasty effect on stoneform comboingIt's still pretty doable though so it's not that bad, it's just more about landing where they want to be rather than where they are when the bomb hits. Which in itself could be pretty consistent anyway and could lead to fucking up stoneforms in the first placeSo yeah, losing double tether was worse to me. The longer stun on stoneform is a nice enough tradeoff, but I still dream of double tether coming back>>741627943>not even quoting anymore while trying to pretend he wonMindbrokenGod I love my gargoyle wife
Fuck:Doorman for being a bell spamming little twink fagBebop for making you play hide and seek on laneRem for having a ridiculous sustain and push on lane, then losing gameSeven for being an overpowered fuck who apparently never gets nerfedShiv
>>741627943Your whole retarded argument reminded me of this.
>>741628059Is this really how you want it go? Being obtuse to win an internet argument with no stakes?
>Fuck: Remif you're a lady
werewolf pussy
>>741628140What argument? My point was that it's Steam sending the invite. The only thing I read from you is various forms of "nuh uh." This is purely pedantic nonsense. Once more, spergy, not the anon you were having open/closed beta argument with. You can stop biting your elbows. As far as you are concerned, he left. You won. Please clap.
>>741628346>My point was that it's Steam sending the invite.A point that you haven't proven in any capacity... we can't just keep going in circles
>>741628283Is Silver the only werewolf who shaves her pussy?
>>741628409There is absolutely no way on God's green earth that Silver gives enough of a fuck about self-care to ever bother shavingShe has an unkempt, untamed rainforest down there
>>741628398I have. Can you provide evidence that all invites come instantly hence not from Steam?
Holy shit nobody cares faggotsIt's a closed beta because it acts like one and they say it's one, it's not that important for either of you to be rightPost gargoyles or werewolf women or do something productive here at least
>>741628468Call me a conquistador because the wilderness must be explored.
>>741628538>I haveDude this is just pathetic
I want Celeste's pussy in my mouth while she bend backward to suck my dick.
>>741617765>Most characters still don't have well defined roles, missing models, animations, polish>Map resources are boxes troopers placeholders and the urn>Items all over the place and don't offer build variety to most characters because there are no restrictions on coveted items leading to 1 build characters>Strange boon or ability growths that reinforce 1 build characters>All towers are a joke the only threatening aspect is the walker stomp>Movement has quite a few kinks to iron out and to decide whether aspects like infinite zip dashing will be a permanent feature>Huge artstyle and quality clashing among roster>Memory leaks>Yet to find a single fun objective since Sinners Sacrifice slot machines>Balance is fucked for most of the roster some are autowins in lane others offer no synergies>Valve have recently resorted to kneejerk changes and forcefeeding metas because they can't take 20min to think aheadPeople are chugging obese bearded tranny cum if they think deadlock is ready for release or a fucking draft mode.
>>741628750Is that you admitting you don't have evidence that invites are instant? So I guess you'd have an explanation of why if you go to the deadlock Steam forums and type "how long" in the search bar, you are going to have 28 pages of these types of posts?Can I have the contrary evidence that it's instant? You seem to be stalling with you frivolous snark.
>>741628794>did not account for the hornMY FUCKING FETISH DAMN IT
>>741628975I'm fucking tired of responding to you over such a pathetic argument so I'll give you one last chance or we can both fuck off. Show the class actual proof that Valve sends out the codes rather than the same guy you've now posted twice. Also like everyone else has said this doesn't fucking matter, it's a closed alpha, not even a beta.
>>741617765>Oh. Oh my. Wow.who types like this
>>741617765but the console numbers!...Gulp
>>741617968Deadlock has always been free.
>>741618430It will but that will last all of week and then it will drop right back down to the normal numbers of around ~10,000 NA players and ~20,000 third worlders. Movement is the only things that's well done and the rest of the game is just bad.
>>741628909>Most characters still don't have well defined rolesThat's the point. Characters are the basis but the power is in the items that change their roles drastically.if you want then you can build any character in any way and still have something viable if you apply some basic thought to it.Some will be better at specific aspects than others but you're not forced to play them that way. It's a very flexible game.
>>741629090>I'm fucking tiredNo you aren't, lil' spergy. Don't play coy. Your autism keeps you invested.Can you show the proof that it's instant? Here is the "same guy." He made 28 pages asking where is the invite, despite you claiming it's instant.> Also like everyone else has said this doesn't fucking matter, it's a closed alpha, not even a beta.For the third time. Not the same anon who was making the open/closed beta argument. My sole argument and correction were that it's Steam that sends out the invite. That friend that invites you simply flags your account for one. Steam is free to hog that invite for weeks. Hence the messages on forums. Hence, it's from Steam. You've yet to prove the contrary.
>>741618616>>741618695Basically everyone below Eternus 6 is awful and there's little difference in skill between them. The difference between someone playing their first game and a hard stuck Phantom/Ascendant player is basically nothing.
>GTA not even out>game is below 50klol will be DoA
>>741629481I watched some normalfag eceleb playing the game in Seeker and this is not true. I could see Ritualist to Archon maybe even Oracle being conflated but there's a clear difference in movement, macro and knowledge checks between oracle/phantom or ascendant/eternus 1-5 and eternus 6
>>741629481You are detached from reality, sorry not sorryYou don't even rightly deserve a (You), but for some ungodly reason this mindset is becoming prevalent even in people who aren't near eternus at all. I can only presume they think of themselves as temporarily embarrassed eternoids in the same way you're a temporarily embarrassed nigshifterThe 0.01% (literal) are not the only ones good at the game and you know it, and you shouldn't be perpetuating this retardation
>>741629481>Basically everyone below Eternus 6 is awful and there's little difference in skill between them.Adorable elitist mindset. Did your favorite Deadlock twitch streamer tell you that?
>>741629668You can see the same attitude in League, everyone below Diamond (I think there's more now I haven't played in years) is shit and the person saying it is always Silver or lower. I think it's just cope for team based games for how it's not your fault.
>tfw she's fallen below sinclair as the literal worst hero in the gamea-awooooo... *sobs**cries**chokes a little**coughs up blood**goes home drunk and sad*
Remember when Dota 2 used to get a new hero every month in the beta?
>>741629806Well it's pretty easy when you have Dota 1 and League to steal from
>>741629806yeah
>>741629875as if Deadlock is not aping moba hero abilities.
>>741629924Not saying it doesn't for some characters but at least you have to translate it into 3D with guns. Also characters like Celeste and Doorman have no allegory.
>>741629774We hear you loud and clear, we're nerfing Sinclair next
>>741629668>The 0.01% (literal) are not the only ones good at the gameYes they are and this is true for almost every game and especially true for FPS, MOBA and MMO games. 99.99999999% of people playing games are retarded beyond belief and 99.999999% of Deadlock players have no idea how to play. They don't play the objectives, don't know the timers, don't know their power spikes, don't know the items, don't look at the minimap, don't know how to position themselves, they take objectively awful fights that would be obvious to anyone with an IQ over 80 etc.You can tell if someone is awful just based on where they stand in the first 30 seconds of the laning phase.
>>741627816Because they made all of her kit revolve around her stone form, her gun is ass, her spirit scaling is ass, her permatether is nice but it's limited to one person and if it's not a gun character it's mostly wasted anyways, her Q's while understanding that was a bit strong is now fucking dogshit useless, they moved a lot of damage to her ultimate and cannot even properly defend herself in a 1v1 anymore, now everything revolves spaming stoneform.
>>741630032>Yes they areNo they're notGood talk, my argument was better than yours because I at least didn't pretend any of this text actually supported a proofless presumption
>>741629774I don't really look at tierlist anyways, I just pick and play.
>>741629774>>741630149She's still one of the best heroes in the game and will probably get more nerfs.
>>741618142depending on who I'm playing it's either the sweatiest game in the world or im just chilling out
>>741618142dota is still way harder, there are so many layers on mechanics in dota, while deadlock is just aim and movement and shitty hero balance.
>>74162437267!
>>741618868money?
>>741629774The less popular character is, the easier it is to match with it
>>741629774>Worst Hero in the gamelol>Implying Sinclair is the worst hero in the game as welllmaoAs expected from a silverfaggot
>>741630406BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I'm eternus 3 and I want to kill myself every time my team decides to push a walker instead of contesting the urn
>>741630882>Worst Hero in the gameStatistically, even
>>741630947An item slot is worth far more than your gay urn.Always has been, I don't care about autismus 67 and above players, you all fucking suck cock at macro.
>>741630947retarded allies never change no matter the rank bro, be free of cringe and do what you want
>>741631018Sinclair is incredibly bullshit op, it's just that people don't know how to play it properly, same as silver
the last balance patch was so cancerbad it seriously makes me doubt the devshow the fuck are doorman and gt still in their current state
>>741631097Oh, I guess you need an eternoid to pilot these heroes. That must be it, right...? They're really so OP, after all, so the best of the best should be able to do it...
>>741631041Win any urn fight after 15 minutes and you pretty much get a walker and mid for free.
>>741617765Good. Can they update Underlords for once?
>>741631018>>741631224You realize that Statlocker hasn't been worth shit since Valve disabled direct match data access like 6 months ago? You're looking at extremely biased samples.
>>741631018He's got such a low pick rate but he's so simple to use. just throw bolts, double it with the auto-aim assistant and use enemy ults with half cooldown.The only thing I wish they'd do with him is change all the effects to a completely different colour so you can tell it's him casting it.
>>741631018>>741631224>StatlockOpinion discarded
>>741631239And if you don't then you're fucked, no, the coinflip isn't worth it, I rather use my retarded team as bait than to waste time on a bad fight, get a whole tier 4 and an item slot for the rest of my team, if I have to defend a walker 1v5 so be it since I'll have all my cds up.Urn is something you take when ahead, not behind.
Playing bolt sinclair is beginner levelMelee sinclair you're beginning to believeAC30 with the assistant in the air raining hellfire on your enemies is where you peak as a Sinclair player.
>>741631449>Urn is something you take when ahead, not behind.Comeback urn is basically impossible to fight into and the strongest comeback mechanic in the game by far.
>>741631294I think I remember seeing a picture of this site stating the amount of matches they measured in a screengrab someone posted, and after just 24 hours most heroes had a sample size of a few hundred games. Even that provides a better general image than baseless conjecture, and it's obviously only going to get more samples as we go along in the patch>extremely biasedBiased towards what? Not giving the results you want to see?>>741631438Uh-oh melty
>>741631569It's not a random sample. Attention seeking trannies are far more likely to submit their matches and they're also far more likely to be terrible at the game and play characters like Mina, Ivy and Silver.
>>741631449The urn comeback resists make it super viable as a comeback if your players are equally skilled to the enemy.Recently the problem I've been seeing is that the enemy realizes this, steps back and lets you capture it "for free", and then rolls you once the urn resists disappear when you haven't had the chance to spend the souls.
>>741618142Very sweaty, the game has the shit trifecta of awful balance, movement in it is both not satisfying and overpowered, and it has all the problems ASSFAGGOTS games have with creeps and denies and dropping money on death.
>>741631708Deaths before 25 minutes mean almost nothing.
>12 gear slotsIsn't that way too much? Build variety usually comes from limitations
>>741631657I see. So when an e6 mina, ivy or silver uploads their game, they're still terrible at the game?
>it's another lash seven dynamo bebop brawl where they get enhanced refresherFUCK YOUUUUU ICEFROG
>>741631761This. If you die twice or more in lane your game should basically be over unless your team hard carries you through it.
>>741631765It used to be 16 and it still is limiting.
>>741631202Doorman's kit is just so good where you could take away most of his damage and he'd still be playable.
>>741631796Yes. There are very few good Mina, Ivy or Silver players on NA and none of them upload their matches. You basically have to be retarded to upload your matches because Statlocker scans the entire Steam cache folder which contains a ton of sensitive information about your Steam account.
>>741631202It's funny you mention that since they polled discord fags and redditors for some big community server, and the overall feeling for the game is that the devs barely seem to know what they are doing.
>>741632028E6's are terrible at the gameYou heard it here first, folks, now not even the literal top rank is good
>>741631765most items don't upgrade so if you want a certain effect you'll be carrying around a low tier item into the lategame until you can't afford to not get a better itemit used to be 16 but split into three rigid slot types, so you could only get 4 weapon, 4 ability, and 4 survival items, then later you'd get 4 extra slots that hold anybut they simplified it to 12 and made everything a bit stronger to compensate. you're still encouraged to buy from the different categories because raw stats are tied to how much you spend in each
>>741632084Yeah, but they're generally better than (You) at least in macro.
>>741632084You skipped the part where only retarded people upload their matches. If you're going to let random websites scan your Steam cache folder you might as well just start letting random people login to your account.
>>741632041To be fair MOBA players are some of the whiniest bitches in the gaming sphere and will complain about everything.People were complaining that the urn was boring so they changed it, now people are complaining about the new urn.People complained about Holliday being in a bad spot for the longest time, now that she's good again people want her nerfed.You just can't make these people happy and you're better off ignoring them.
>>741632219>>741632282I guess it's easier to believe that the literal top rank is just le bad, rather than that some heroes just underperform and some overperform.We're done here, reply if [You] must but it's not gonna reconnect you to reality my temporarily embarrassed night shifter friend
>>741632347The urn is a shitty mechanic no matter how they change it, and Holliday is in the same class of character as Celeste, as in they are always fucking obnoxious to play against due to having enhanced movement, which basically just means you aren't allowed to play the game against them since they can simply leave any fight.
>>741632437>Me when my left to right build doesn't include counter items to mobile heroes so they run away from fights
>>741632437
>>741631765the variety in deadlock comes from early game itemization, counter items and the last 2 to 4 slots to fit your playstyle, realistically you have have tops 6 or 7 slots, everything else is match-based.>>741631202No you don't get it GT NEEDS to instantly RAPE you with one arrow and also being able to shit out snares all over the lane that you can't even shoot.>>741632347Holliday was never in a bad spot, thats what retarded shitters said, now she's literally impossible to play against unless you completely laser focus and counter-build her with barrels being too fast to dodge, same shit that happened with geist before they nerfed her pool speed, it was impossible to dodge unless you never broke line of sight with her to know the exact second she tossed that shit.
>>741632361Sorry to hear your cries for buffs, silvermutt.
>>741632620I play Celeste all the time and Slowing Hex basically does nothing. Against most comps you will also build debuff remover.
>>741632749>and Slowing Hex basically does nothing.You know you have to actually use the active right?
>>741632620>slowing hexLiterally useless against holliday because if she placed her bounce pads beforehand may as well be wasting it.
>>741632575Me but I only play Dynamo and put everything into his 1 so it reaches halfway across the globe
>>741632664>Holliday was never in a bad spotHer barrels were clumsy to aim, she only just got her stomp stun back, and she had to work way harder to do damage than practically every other character in the game.She wasn't shit but she definitely wasn't great, which is why you rarely ever saw her in games until the recent patch.
>>741632749And forcing someone to build Debuff remover means one less item they actually want. It's also effective against more than just one enemy.>>741632813Fun thing about hex is it also makes the hexed player heavier so you also don't get as much out of the pad if you have one down and are able to get to it.
>>741632871>dynamo in brool>enhanced charge>enhanced expansion>ballistic expension why not>omnicharge shows up>send fuckyou waves across the mapwhy yes I've been called a nigger
>>741626429lmao this little faggot thinks valve cares
>>741617765This game is made by icefag so of course it will basically go into maintenance mode with patches every year
>>741632970I'll give you that she had to work hard to do damage but I have very little patience for her character archetype of never touching the ground while shooting you, it's the same problem celeste and lash have, the characters on paper aren't THAT good but the way they're designed and how they break conventional movement rules makes them incredibly op in ways people don't even understand.Movement is the biggest statcheck.And this is how I pivot into this reply>>741632992Yes, it makes you heavier but the only thing holliday needs to do is to stall the duration, the only one who can do this as well is celeste due to her gravity, but stalling is their biggest advantage
>>741623654The current favored urn pickup spots used to be the old favored urn dropoff spots. Urn DOT was a non-factor and if the urn would start running it was much slower and someone could still easily pick it back up. Honestly this new KOTH style is much better but it does have its issues. The melee brawl-style in-between the two was a nightmare. At least we don't have Ivy as the designated urnslut. That was shit.
>>741633375>>741632813>>741632749>>741632620pussy itemsphantom strike
>>741632620Slowing hex is worthless against Holliday and Celeste, it does not stop them from abusing the game's shitty movement systems.>>741632575All the 'counter items' to mobility don't do anything.
>>741620243You have it all wrong. As long as you aren't in Ascendant or Eternus farm isn't a constant need. The only chore is pushing lanes. At lower ranks farm is just what you do when you can't abuse the enemy and there's no lane to push. Taking enemy camps is very fun in this game because there's so many ways to get in and out that unless you're being a retard and taking enemy camps with your lanes not being pushed you can easily escape anyone trying to stop you or you just fuckin kill them and take more of their camps
>>741617765I'm having a blast
>Tfw you dodge an ult by teleporting in place with MinaShort iframes are the most fun mechanic in any game
>>741633460Also acceptable but expensive, very funny the first time you use it and rip someone right out the sky.I never understood why it was a green item though.>>741633584>thing that outright disables movement abilities doesn't do anything
>>741629404nta but you don't play the game, because if you did you would know that players send the invites.
>>741633813Celeste can still jump around, holliday can still use her pads, it's not that hard, and celeste is incredibly hard to kill even if you nail her down due to her shield which silences you if it breaks.Even worse if you're retarded enough to fight her with her maxed bubble and her ult up, holliday can still kill you without moving still, her headshot procs hit like a trick and if she has crippling headshot it's even worse.You would probably have better chances with knockdown since that at least keeps them in place.Also phantom is probably green because if it was yellow it would proc all melee items, haven't tried it on someone like billy though.
>>741629404>be retard>ask for invite>be not retard>go to game>click button>10 minutes to 3 hours later>game spawns in retard's library with a notificationsatisfied, you fucking faggot?
>>741632749Yes that's because Celeste is a poorly designed character whose only real counter is called Combo by Mohammed & Kareem
>>741634158The damage is spirit, that's defined by the damage type, not the item colour.It's just odd that its an offensive item, used to debilitate and damage enemies, that gives 15% weapon damage as a listed stat along with 8 spirit power but is green for some reason so it also increases your health.
>>741634158arctic blast
>>741633959I'm not disputing how people get into the game. Just how the said invites are processed. They would arrive instantly all the time if it was purely player to player interaction with Steam servers only responding. The same as inventory trading or game gifting would work. The player flags the other player through an invite, and Steam sends it. The lag between those two is purely on Steam. Otherwise there wouldn't be any delay.>>741634202Genuinely curious, what is this rambling about?
>>741634482Why are you even trying to argue this?
>>741634565Well, the original tism dispute from where I came in was the nigger saying that Steam plays no part in sending the invite. Despite Deadlock forums having dozens upon dozens of pages of people moaning that their or their friends invite never came. If it was just purely player to player interaction, there wouldn't be an issue.Don't get invested, it's just pure /v/-ass semantics.
>>741634883so you're upset about not getting an invite, gotcha
>>741634883What did you have to gain by drive-by posting like that? That doesn't refute or otherwise affect in any way the argument open/closed beta-anon was trying to make.
>>741634883Steam allows player invitation but it's ultimately up to them, this also allows steam to track what invites bring in the most cancer to their game.Also I've read this a few times but I never saw anything about it again, is that apparently steam will try at some point to close down invitations given by certain accounts, idk if it's to fight hackers or botnets but can someone shed some light on this? Because it sounds nice but like a nightmare to implement
>>741635176>invite trees>a nightmare to implementEvery private torrent tracker has this, I think Valve can manage. I hope it's true, because that's a good way to easily identify and ban hacking 6-stacks.
>>741635002>What did you have to gain Daily dose of 'akchually.' We are all floating down here after all. At the end of the day it wasn't me who then proceeded to claim that all invites are instant with constant "PROVE EET"It's not that their particular discussion had any substance either. I wasn't butting into that.>>741634973If you wanted to fuck a strawman to death should've said so from the start.>>741635176Literally what I said. The player just flags the other player for an invite, and then Steam actually sends it. I don't know how automated their process is. There obviously isn't a Rajesh sitting there processing every invite manually, but I hope there is some kind of red flag system. God knows the game is full of smurfs, and those smurfs always have a main account in their friend list.
>>741631956it's a pure numbers issue what are you saying.His bells do 1k dmg and are unmissable unless you are severely disabled and he can place doors across the map with a 500 barrier 15min into the game.. How are characters like doorman and viscous top dmg by fucking mile in pro games when they build full util?
>>741635814For me it's late game doorman forcing everyone to buy warp stone or else having ult on an effectively 20s CD
>>741619243Their balance tweaks are bigger updates than Dragons Dogma 2 was for DD1 lmao.
>>741618142Dota is harder, but this game feels sweatier if that makes senseI haven't played with a single person whose actually had fun playing the game, but fun comes from modding the shit out of it
>>741632749Against flight you buy anvil
>>741617765so i think the game is cool but i'm a brainlet, are there any resources for brainlets/store item cheatsheets aside from the in game builds ? i can aim and think the movement is fun but the store is paralyzing midmatch so want to actually learn what is going on
>>741636756no. just like a baby learning to speak you need to absorb the information in front of you and imitate it. even if it's just garbled noises at first.
>>741636756Any SwoleBenji build or video is great. Brainless, left to right auto-buys, and an avoidance "play till you outfarm the enemy team then roll them" macro centric playstyle.
>>741636496Too far
>>741617765the shooter/moba hybrid has failed each time it was tried. Monday night combat died (twice), Gigantic died (twice), Battleborn died. Sure Deadlock is the most popular one so far, but I have this little thing in the back of my head that suggests this one will fail too.It's just kind of a mid genre. I think the 3rd person perspective actually hinders character design rather than helps it
we should have a 4chan vs reddit event with this game
>>741636756Easiest way to get better is through understanding of damage and scaling.Damage type for everything is seen in the ability window and on the damage summary when holding tab/dead. If you're taking a lot of one type then simply buy an item that provides that damage resistance.The other part is scaling for damage. If you take Drifters Rend, it deals both Spirit and Melee damage, holding tab and hovering over the skill will show a multiplier next to the stat that affects it. These scale differently for every character and ability, for some the investment of a stat is very limited whilst others gives big returns.Some characters also have a base stat that will increase with spirit power. Haze for example gains Max Ammo with spirit power, so it ends up being more efficient buying the 800 Extra Spirit to raise her ammo to 34 instead of the 800 Extended Magazine to get 33.
>>741636756Any schmuck meta build is good, as is basically any popular L>R build. Annotations are a big plus since you can read on the Why's of buying while you're dead/zipping to and from lane.I highly recommend looking hovering over abilitys and your stat bars on the left like anon says here>>741637582Gimmick builds are a fun way to learn the game, too.
/v/ has been saying Deadlock will die for 2 years now...
>>741636756Learn how to play the basics first, aiming and dodging and denying creeps. If you can learn that consistently that should make everything else easier, second you should read what items actually do since this game is very flexible regardless how to build. So as long as your idea in your mind can be translated to the store it's good.Also learn how YOU play, not everyone elses, what works for you and doesn't since thats gonna make you understand what builds work better for you. The character itself is like a quarter of what actually determines your skill level.
>>741620690jeets are so fucking retarded lmao. a white woman will never have sex with you stinky pooskin
>>741624196what a whiny baby faggot, literally just a mascot character and a well liked one at that. you projecting degenerate shit onto the little rat thing is very telling, fuckin queer
>>741639118a hit dog will holler
Why would I play this if I could play Rivals? The girls are way hotter and this game looks like it was made exclusively for the nonbinary blusky crowd.
>>741639368got that right, nothing remotely sexual or even suggestive about the rats design, people calling it furry bait have to be seeing something I'm not. Real revealing of their faggotry
>>741639572Because rivals isn't the game I want to play.A normal hero shooter simply isn't comparable to a MOBA, they are far too different.I also have no interest in marvel.
>>741639919jesus id kys myself if I were you
>>741639572I can masturbate to the girls on R34 then play Deadlock which is more fun.
>>741639572Capeslop is worse than Valvekino
>>741640135So what makes you like Rivals so much that you come to threads for unrelated games and talk about it?
>>741640813its funny and valvetrannies are insecure so they cant help replying with the most passive aggressive posts
>>741642051You need a girlfriend.
>passive agressive>tells anon to kill himself for saying a moba is different to his hero shootersure
>>741635814>it's a pure numbers issue what are you saying.His doors allow him and his team to be incredibly greedy with positioning, he can displace people with his cart, AND his ult removes a person from the game for six seconds (on a 20ish second cooldown if the person fucks up the parkour).They could make his damage complete garbage past early-mid game and he'd still probably be a top tier hero for the above reasons.
>>741642694Deadlock is a hero shooter tho
>>741640135>"Why would I play this game?">*Person explains their reason for playing the game*>"Kill yourself"You seem like a lovely person
>>741617765rip bozo
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