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The opposite of recency bias, you tend to put more weight on the information you receive first (the original) instead of the one that was later (Remake).

>Example 1: when Remake adds or extends a scene from the original, the initial prejudice is "why do they add things when the OG is already perfect", instead of "how can the scene from the OG be improved".

>Example 2: when the OG does stupid anime things, it is okay because it is the original and you didn't have expectations beforehand.
But when Remake does stupid anime things, it is thought as silly because you already have an expectation of how a character would behave.

Realism bias: people nitpicking scenes because realism and fidelity present more attack surfaces, while they were rarely pointed out in the OG because people excuse the cartoonic presentation.

>Example 1: Tifa is seen as flawed because she didn't want to hurt people in Remake, while in the OG disc 1 she was mostly silent and never truly open up her personality.

>Example 2: Barret punched Biggs to the screen in the original. It is not featured in Remake because doing it in real graphics would make Barret looks like a real asshole instead of comedic gag.

>Example 3: Cloud's childhood scene with Tifa is triggered by something else in Remake, while in the OG he was reminded by Tifa so that he didn't leave. If done in Remake that way it would make Tifa looks really bitchy.

In the last two examples they recreated both in other instances.

>Example 4: Yuffie is thought to be annoying in Remake, while she was way worse and childish in the OG, but you didn't realize that because you rarely interact with her and her dialogue in the OG.

>Example 5: Tifa and Aerith can talk about serious concepts through a wall in Shinra captivity in the OG, but it would look stupid in Remake.
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>>741618249
So what would be a valid criticism of 7R?
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All this is some schizo false-flagging strawmanning + crude generalization.

The DEmake is a shitty fanfic sequel, that nobody asked for. It nukes the grim retro-future punk atmosphere, whitewashes any resemblance of morally gray elements in cast and story, turns world-design and combat into generic MMO arena slop, and destroys both the pacing and drama's arch.

Every single "fun" thing you referred to is cringy as fuck slop that does not fit in. XIII doing some bullshit MJ moonwalk dance scenes is like straight out of DMC.

Last but not least:
The demake games are literal Pajeet Unreal engine slop.
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>>741618249
I’m not reading all that, but I will say I don’t think the remake justifies its own existence beyond people willing to pay money for it. It lacks artistic merit since it’s just the original reheated into fancy new graphics. You know what would’ve been more impressive from Square Enix? Final Finatasy 17, Final Fantasy 18 and Final Fantasy 19. Original games not beholden to a purely fiscal pursuit. If a game company makes a game just because it will sell, does that mean it’s good?

By the way I’ve never played the remake and never will, if that wasn’t obvious.
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>>741618528
>XIII doing some bullshit MJ moonwalk dance scenes is like straight out of DMC.
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I used to love FF7 OG but after several years of being increasingly pissed off at OG fans shitting on remake (entirely hypocritical BTW, you should love both or hate both if you were objective about it) that I've grown to hate fans of the OG and praise of the OG in any form. I now exclusively talk about FF7 OG in negative terms now. In many ways it's a bad game when you start comparing it to remake objectively. I find it increasingly unfair that people like OG but criticize remake. It's that unfairness that drives almost all of my posting.
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>>741618249
>second opinion bias
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>>741618249
>>741618654
Mental illness. 7 Remake will never be accepted as good
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>>741618249
If it's so good then it doesn't need improving. If it needs improving then it wasn't good.
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I'm afraid the 'zo woke up.
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>>741618249
Yeah
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I am still not playing any fucking remake
RE4 OG all the say, System Shock classic all the way, FF7 classic all the way.
Shekelstein can suck my balls
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>>741618654
>you should love both or hate both if you were objective about it
Why? I don’t understand why you should love both or hate both
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>>741618249
>Realism bias: people nitpicking scenes because realism and fidelity present more attack surfaces, while they were rarely pointed out in the OG because people excuse the cartoonic presentation.

Anyone who isn't a retard would come to the conclusion that "realism" is a mistake for such a fantastical and cartoonish (cartoonic isn't a word you fucking dunce) game, but because you went into this "analysis" with a clear bias (liking OG is wrong, disliking remake is wrong, anyone who thinks otherwise is biased! not me though!!) you come to the conclusion that FF7 SHOULD have realistic graphics - but people shouldn't find the shit that looks stupid with realistic graphics bad - they should like it, because the original looked shit, or something.
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>>741618782
Based
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>>741618810
/thread
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>>741618651
In the OG, he's literally struggling to stay up right, that's it. And it's not a FMV taken straight out of Disney musical.
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>>741618651
Oof, he isn't gonna like this.
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>>741618905
>If it is in the original, that's it
>If it is in Remake, it's disney musical
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>>741618651
>this is meant to be a gotcha in response to the criticism that remake turns one little visual gag into a shitty dance number
Really?
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>>741618952
You know what isn't in schizoanon? His meds.
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>>741618956
>Example 1: when Remake adds or extends a scene from the original, the initial prejudice is "why do they add things when the OG is already perfect", instead of "how can the scene from the OG be improved".
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>>741618981
See? Told you. He's fuming.
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>>741618249
i aint readin all that dawg but left pic has no anti-soul gas and right has plenty so left it is

gigachad out
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>>741618810
Would you buy Remake if it looks like this?
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>>741618651
>>741618752
>>741618920
>>741618952
>>741618990
>>741619036
Hello OP, could you answer this post for us >>741618429
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>>741619076
Sorry, schizo. People recognize your ritualposts. No dice. Keep on fuming.
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>>741619068
Would you refuse to buy any FF7 remake that wasn't "realistic"?
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>>741619068
>enormous feet
no
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>>741619117
To be honest, I'm a fanboy so I'd buy anyway
Hope it does not detract from our discussion.
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>>741619115
And people recognise you, Ba7ry.
You are only here to shit on the OG and piss and moan about any criticism of 7R, no matter what it is. Every criticism of 7R is wrong, because... *checks notes* ...because the OG is shit. Okay, got it. And you'll be repeating this for the next few hours while blatantly samefagging.
All these posts were yours >>741619076 and everyone can see it.
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>>741619184
This is exactly what people know follows this >>741618429, by the way. Your mental illness is renowned in these threads. You now get upset when no one takes the bait. What a complete loser you are, lmao. How did you become such a massive fucking waste of life, anon?
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>BA7RY thread

Can't wait to see all the healthy discussion ITT. I'm sure it won't just be OP samefagging to say everyone is wrong no matter what they say.
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>>741619280
>Samefagging
Hmm. Samefagging, you say. Hmm. Yeah, I know all about it.
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>>741618249
>every single criticism of remake is wrong
>everyone with a criticism of remake is blinded by the original, which is shit
Gee I wonder if this is a ba7ry thread
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>>741618952
>Jeet schizo can't read English
>didn't even play the OG
Many such cases.
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>>741619115
>No dice.
you can't say one single thing that is a valid criticism of 7R? wow you really are like barry. I dont think he ever said one bad thing about XV or accepted anyone else saying anything bad about it either.
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>>741619068
I would buy remake if it looked like Advent Children and was just as moody.
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>>741618249
as a person who played original in 2025
god it was ass. How the fuck does an actual company write and has combat worse than modern solo devs? How it is worse than 6? It's insane it exists near mgs1, it's like a bad fanfic and a bad roblox game in one package
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>>741618249
It's because there is 100-150 hours of final fantasy VII, and it might be another 100 hours on top of that when the next game is done.

When you have absolutely bumfuck retarded scenes like the train graveyard in the remake or spend like 15 minutes fucking walking and talking and holding forward on the stick in cosmo canyon but the game cant give Nanaki like 2 minutes to mourn Seto before John Gi shows up and says "Hey the Cetra suck now go play as Zack again" it makes you miss the original game. I would gladly take these abstractions to let my mind fill in some gaps if it means I'm getting the story in 30 hours as opposed to 250.
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>>741619442
But the og is far from AC's depressing tone.
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>>741618249
AHEM.

I HAVE COME HERE TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT. EVERYONE WHO SAYS ANYTHING CRITICAL OF FFVIIR IS WRONG. IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ME YOU ARE WRONG BECAUSE OF YOUR BIAS. I DO NOT HAVE BIAS.

BA7RY HAS SPOKEN.
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>>741619429
>ritual engagement shitpost is ignored
>is pointed ouit this ritual engagement shitpost is followed by schizophrenia from a local crazy
>it continues baiting for engagement as it's actively laughed at
kek, so you don't want to tell us on an anonymous board why you're such a complete and total fucking loser and how you arrived at this point? Could be cathartic. Do tell.
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>>741619513
Yes and? We are talking about remakes.
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>>741618651
>A small visual gag of a dumb dog trying to blend in instead of a 2 minute long cutscene of a dumb dog trying to play cards while being able to move like a person normally
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>>741618249
>Example 1: when Remake adds or extends a scene from the original, the initial prejudice is "why do they add things when the OG is already perfect", instead of "how can the scene from the OG be improved".
Different writers going in 20 years later and changing things because they feel like it isn't justifiable. It's not their story to change in the first place, and even if it was you can't just rewrite a story that has been established for decades. At the very least, it highlights the fact that this is just a fictional story and kills any immersion or will to care about the plot. If anyone can rewrite the story whenever they feel like it then fanfic is as canon as the remake

I'm not even going to read the rest of your retarded garbage post if this is your first point.
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>>741618249
>all that text
>and you didn't even address the utter travesty that is what the remake series did the overworld, which is what the image you posted illustrates
Fucking look at it. They shrank the world from a world map to a tiny fucking regional map. Everything is so fucking small now. The world looks so unbelievably tiny.
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>>741619482
>the game cant give Nanaki like 2 minutes to mourn Seto
How do you do this, anon?
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I played OG back in December and I am playing remake now.
I am so glad they added so many scenes of slow walking portions, bloated cutscenes, NPCs asking me to kill 20 wererats, and endless boring metal walkways and hallways instead of beautiful prerendered backgrounds.
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>>741619482
>I would gladly take these abstractions to let my mind fill in some gaps
I think some autists really struggle to enjoy things like this. They need realism and no subtlety or ambiguity whatsoever because they see literally nothing there. Every blank must be filled in. Every emotion and idea must be signposted - loudly - or they will dislike it. Anything that makes it easier for them to understand is automatically better.

An hour long scene that conveys the same information as a two minute scene is "better" by default because it's more. It's impossible for people with these broken brains to see it any other way. Less is more is an alien concept to them.
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I was pretty on board with Rebirth up until Corel Prison and beyond. It's like they completely fucking shit the bed after. Cid is just a completely different character and Rocket Town was definitely just cut in favor of gongaga because muh Zack
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>>741619535
You are exactly like Barry in every way. You exist only to tell others who would dare criticize your favourite FF that they are wrong, while schizo samefagging and calling anyone who recognises you a boogeyman as an auto response.
Tell me, is there a SINGLE thing about you that isn't the same as Barry? Swap XV for 7R and you're the same guy.
You will not answer this question because it makes you very uncomfortable.

Keep seething BA7RY. You are a lolcow just like your predecessor.
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>ba7ry thread
>the ba7ry test is administered and ba7ry immediately chimps out, fails it, and melts down for the next few hours
Great to see
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>>741619824
I haven't mentioned FF7 or any other FF game in any way. I've merely come here to laugh at you because I know you're here, schizo.
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>>741619883
ba7ry test?
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>>741618249
>original: based
>remake: cringe
there, i explained it for you retards
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Barry likes FF7 remake now? the fuck?
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>>741619921
Schizo's latest engagement farm. Look at the very first post.
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>>741619896
>I'm not here to talk about final fantasy, I'm here to talk about you
I'm flattered. I didn't realise the ba7ry test had mindbroken you this badly.
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>>741619921
What Is The BA7RY Test?

Firstly, who is Barry? Barry is a XV fan who combs 4chan for posts criticizing XV to reply to. In his mind, every criticism of XV is wrong, no matter how big, small, reasonable or unreasonable. It's all wrong, and he will set you straight on that matter.
Unfortunately, FFVIIR has its own Barry, named BA7RY, who acts in the same way. He's hard to miss. Do you suspect he's ITT? Then apply the BA7RY test. It's simple!

Just ask him: "What would be a valid criticism of VIIR?"

Barry would never criticize XV, even slightly. And BA7RY will never criticize VIIR either. This simple test lets you know if you're talking to a reasonable person who is capable of discussion, or a wall of fanboy autism who will never give an inch and is only here to tell you that you're wrong wrong wrong!
If your anon replies reasonably, he passes the BA7RY test. If he immediately chimps out and starts screaming about boogymen, BINGO! That's a BA7RY! After all, Barry's favourite tactic was to call everyone Nathan. Because only one person ever called out Barry, right?
Try it yourself!
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>>741619959
Nah, this is a different guy who acts the same way, but for 7r instead of XV. OP is Ba7ry.
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E33
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>>741619984
This explains a lot. Thank you.
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>>741619068
No, nigga. I would just play the original.
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>>741619983
Clicked on the FF7 thread, saw your bait, scrolled down further when no one took it. Pointed it out and laughed at you. You melted down and delved deeper into your complete madness, as you do. You're a predictable schizo. You are where you always are. You lack self-awareness, but YOU are, in fact, the schizo. You just don't have the ability to see it.

You can be found with ease.
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>>741619482
I'm just pointing out some biases.
It's not meant to refute every single criticism.
And yes, I can agree that being less can be more effective, but there are also things that are improved when it is added in.
Voice acting for example. Do you hate voice acting?
I don't mean that I cannot play a game without voice acting, but 7R does need voice acting and I rarely see criticisms towards that.
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>>741618249
i played the remake first and i liked more, the story and world building is a lot more deeper and made me care about it
i cried with jessie death and seeing sector 7 being destroyed was kino
on the og the deaths is something that you could probably forget less than 1min after and the destruction of the sector was more like a comma in the story
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>>741620037
>asking for a valid criticism of 7R is "bait"
Are 7R fanboys really so fragile
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>>741620087
insecure is the word I would use. and yes.
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>>741619471
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>>741620087
It has nothing to do with FF7, or gaming at all. It's merely a schizophrenic getting the dopamine he craves. He can be easily found.
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>>741620038
>I'm just pointing out some biases.
And do you think you have any of your own?
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>>741620017
damn i need to catch up on the lore
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>>741620135
asking about the game has nothing to do with the game?
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>>741620162
That's correct. It's merely adjacent to this game. The goal is purely engagement. He'll samefag endlessly in these threads and spam his buzzwords. Because he's a loser. Would you like to guess what he did before he turned his attention to this latest grift? I'm sure you can guess.
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>>741620148
I do have ofc.
All humans do. We are not blank canvases.
That's why we discuss it and talk about it.
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>>741620162
BA7RY is schizophrenic and will say anything to weasel out of being caught once exposed. He'll be posting like that now for hours just because he was asked for a valid criticism of remake
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this autism seems somehow similar to the recent E33 hate thread spam
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>>741620206
Other way around.
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/text/%20%22valid%20criticism%20of%207R%22/
You're being gaslit by a samefagging schizo who loves the chaos. Needs it.
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I should make a thread shitting on 7R and 15 to summon Barry and Ba7ry, that would be peak entertainment
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>>741620206
I actually cannot believe how well the test >>741619984 works.
Asking for a valid criticism of 7R is a reasonable thing to do, especially when someone seems to be claiming all the critics are wrong about everything. And it's already caused him so many chimpout replies.
It reminds me of when Barry cries Nathan the moment he is exposed.
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>>741620267
Thusly it demonstrates.
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>>741620267
>It reminds me of when Barry cries Nathan the moment he is exposed.
Holy fuck thats exactly whats happening kek
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>>741620286
Demonstrates indeed. It can't help itself. The show it puts on.
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>>741620247
Do you have a name for your "Nathan" Ba7ry?
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>>741619984
This post is the only reason I can understand the thread. The barrylike posts are uncanny.
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>>741620267
why would anyone provide a valid criticism for an already overhated game? This test makes no sense unless you are larping as a critic retard
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>>741618249
>>Example 1: when Remake adds or extends a scene from the original, the initial prejudice is "why do they add things when the OG is already perfect", instead of "how can the scene from the OG be improved".
OG is the original, cohesive vision. It's an amalgam of its time of creation, the inspiration of its creators, and the circumstances of its development. Every "improvement" is just an unnecessary game of telephone years after the iron has grown cold.
Changes made simply for the sake of justifying a rerelease cannot be called "improvements". They have no merit.
Primacy bias is rational. Enthusiasts of every other medium know this to be true. Only in video games (and sometimes movies) do you get faggots like OP trying to tell you that you are irrational for favoring the original.
It's you that's irrational, OP.
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>>741620331
Me? I just refer to you as "Ba7ry" and use your ritualposting trail to identify you. How come I found you so easily? How did I know where you were?
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>>741620135
>I'm not even here to talk about videogames, I'm here to get angry at a guy asking for a valid criticism of 7R!
I see.......... and.... you're NOT the schizo here?
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>>741620363
>This test makes no sense
And yet look at the results
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>>741620391
>If primacy bias is rational, then every Remake is useless because OG is already there and it is always better.
Except that in reality, people do want these Remakes and not just a simple remaster.

But fair, primacy bias is valid to some degree. I agree.
But it should not cloud our judgement.
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>>741620420
I mean, the fact that he's where I thought he'd be doing what I knew he'd be doing completely validated the schizo label he's been given. (You) can deny it all you want.
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>>741620396
I posted the question that makes you chimp out and you chimped out. And now you are playing it like you "caught" me? lmao come on man.
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>>741618249
>Realism bias: people nitpicking scenes because realism and fidelity present more attack surfaces, while they were rarely pointed out in the OG because people excuse the cartoonic presentation.
Ever hear of the uncanny valley?
The more you chase realism, the more offputting it is when you fall short.
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>>741620485
>>741620420
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>>741620494
Here's your reply >>741619068
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>>741620247
>he's been doing this for 5 years
GRIM
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OP was defeated here >>741618810
The next few hours will be off topic schizoposting from ba7ry doing damage control, ironically just proving the effectiveness of >>741619984 further
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>>741620490
And that's how I found you. Because you have an identifiable trail. See
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/text/%20%22valid%20criticism%20of%207R%22/
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/text/%22ba7ry%22/

You're not intelligent enough to hide your tracks. You immediately reveal yourself, and do so willingly. No one's engaged with your bait. Merely called you out for being what you are, and you proclaim victory while samefagging endlessly. What a sad existence.
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>>741620560
Much like Barry, he literally cannot stop himself. Even if more posting digs himself deeper, he cannot stop.
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>>741620446
the results are ass. The discussion shifted from shitting on og7 to shitting on the made up guy. Let me shit on the og!!!
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>>741620570
>hide your tracks
Who cares about that? The test is for exposing you. And it does so beautifully.
>>741620585
I fear you are right
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>>741618249
7R's strong points only work when you look at them in a vaccuum and ignore the greater experience as a whole because Remake and Rebirth both have some of the worst pacing of any game I have ever plaeyd and are an absolute fucking chore to get through. It's like every time you encounter something cool the game drags it out like 5 times longer than it should be and by the time you're done with it you're sick of it and never want to see it again. That's every aspect of these remakes.
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>>741620570
Ahem, once again: >>741620490
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>>741620570
>No one's engaged
Anon you have already done 50 posts malding about it lmao
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See the games he plays? He's a notorious /ffg/ schizo using multiple 4chan passes and browser sessions to create this madness. It's how he spends his days. He's genuinely one of the biggest losers on this website, with no real equal. Why does he do it? It's the only way he feels alive. He'll continue for hours, and then he'll do it again in another thread, while terrorizing /ffg/ during his downtime.
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>>741620678
and he is far, far, far from finished. another 100 posts ITT alone, and that's just today.
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>>741620631
That's fair. I also think these games are bloated.
I believe that we can trim 1/3 of Remake and Rebirth each and get better experience playing them.
But I personally think splitting the game to three was necessary if we want to keep the same level of realism.
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>>741620684
True. Sadly BA7RY refuses to take meds.
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>>741620478
>>If primacy bias is rational, then every Remake is useless because OG is already there and it is always better.
Yes.
>Except that in reality, people do want these Remakes and not just a simple remaster.
That's true, but what other people want doesn't really influence my opinion.
>But fair, primacy bias is valid to some degree. I agree.
I appreciate the good faith response, especially after I called you an irrational faggot.
>But it should not cloud our judgement.
I don't think "remakes are an unnecessary deviation from the source" is clouded judgement, but I do agree we shouldn't let primacy bias blind us to things a remake does well.
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>>741620684
Ba7ry is a /ffg/ user too? Those poor people
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Yeah I'm playing through OG FF7 again right now (granted with closer translation and graphics mods). And the one thing it's made me realise is that people's perception of OG FF7 and what it is actually always was vs their perceived version of it built up over many years do not quite align in many ways.
And the Remakes are a lot closer to the actual FF7 'essence' than many will ever be willing to admit.
There's tons of dialogue or scenarios that are practically one to one, the difference is in execution of course. As OP pointed out, because it's a bunch of chibi characters interacting on a flat image it requires you to fill in the blanks alot more than you would in Remake. This of course can change the context in your mind to something far darker than what is actually being presented.
It has also made me greatly appreciate the expanded character interactions in the Remakes, because honestly you don't realise how simple a lot of it is until you replay it and start thinking "Honestly I think I liked how Remake handled this park date better".
But the pacing in the OG is still impeccable, so it becomes a trade off in that regard.
Not that it ultimately matters though, as the Remakes have pretty much made it clear that they are more of an extension of the OG than a replacement.
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>>741620720
>>741620739
Case in point. Shuffling because his bait didn't work as anticipated. See, even that won't stop you from doing this for hours on end.
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>>741620739
He also patrols /vrpg/ making sure the threads that get one post a week go the way he wants them to.
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Who the fuck is Barry

Have you guys noticed that every 4chan board has that one boogeyman who always is refered by his first name like Ryan, Kevin, etc and everyone accuses each other of being him?
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>>741619068
I probably wouldn't buy it regardless, but I would be much more inclined to buy this than what we got, yes.
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>>741620761
That's XV-kun. He terrorized /v/ for years defending FF15. Now he calls other people "ba7ry" and monitor FF7 threads on /v/.
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>>741618429
The open world bloat
Some scenes are handled worse narratively like Dyne
But in general Rebirth is a fantastic game
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>>741620747
>didn't work as anticipated
Anon you have done 50 malding posts about it already. It worked perfectly. How else is it supposed to "work"?
The ba7ry test exists to make you expose yourself and melt down. And it's happening.
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>>741620631
bad slow pacing would be better than bad overly fast pacing early ffs are ill with. How can anyone form any connection with anything in those games when they somehow have barely any dialogue for a jrpg
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>>741620761
This explains it well >>741619984
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>>741620802
I've merely laughed at you, because I knew you'd be here. And you are. How did I know that? Will you respond to yourself three times in a row now and pat yourself on the back in validation? How are you easy to find?
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>>741620741
>As OP pointed out, because it's a bunch of chibi characters interacting on a flat image it requires you to fill in the blanks alot more than you would in Remake. This of course can change the context in your mind to something far darker than what is actually being presented.
The FF7 remake is as much an interpretation of the original game as my reading of it is.
Sometimes "interpretable" is better than "explicit".
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i just finished Remake a few hours ago, gonna play Intermission later today and have Rebirth installed. got the double pack on steam for $30 last week.
i'm never listening to you histrionic retarded babies again. the side missions are complete ass and so is the idea of 100%ing this game but the main story is pure fucking sovlful kino.
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>>741620827
>merely
lol
Again: >>741620490
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>>741620856
I refuse to criticize SE for putting shit content in these games. The blame is entirely on the player who should know not to play the side content. You will ALWAYS see me posting multiple times in these threads to make clear it's the players fault and not SEs.
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>>741620856
>but the main story is pure fucking sovlful kino.
You mean like it was back in 1997?
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>>741620864
What you're confirming is what you're being accused of. Posting engagement bait that has no rhyme or reason. I've MERELY laughed at you and called you out, and yet you're going through the samefagging motions.
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>>741620714
I could forgive the bloat in Remake cause they needed to stretch out a 4-5 hour section of game into a full experience but Rebirth has literally no excuse for how shit it's pacing is. The game is already really fucking long, longer than the original FF7 in it's entirety and yet they still felt the need to drag everything out. I don't think they needed to make them 1 game but they really needed to trim the fat, especially in Rebirth. Remake should have also done it and included Yuffie's episode in the game itself rather than selling it as DLC.

>>741620806
That is absolutely, unquestionably untrue. fast pacing is infintiely more forgivable than slow pacing. Fast pacing makes you want more but slow pacing makes you bored and ruins the experience. I cannot put into words how much the shit pacing negatively effects these remakes. They're 8/10 games in quality that feel like 5/10 because of how painful they are to actually play. Being fun should always be priority number 1, 2 and 3 and these remake games are not fucking fun to play.
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>>741620904
>I've MERELY laughed at you
Glad to see you are having fun. Again: >>741620490

The BA7RY test causes you to melt down. You are proving that once again.
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>>741620915
>I could forgive the bloat in Remake cause they needed to stretch out a 4-5 hour section of game into a full experience
But they could have just made it one game...
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>>741620904
So do you have anything else to say or are you just going to keep saying this "Im not mad Im actually laughing" 100 more times
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>>741620949
>>741620979
Anon. Your ritualposts are how you identify yourself. The resulting identity lets people laugh at you for being the dopamine addicted engagement farmer that you are. You can multiply the perceived engagement threefold in your samefag responses.
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>>741620979
>you didn't catch me, I caught you! you didn't catch me, I caught you! you didn't catch me, I caught you! you didn't catch me, I caught you!
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>>741618249
The remakes are simply more fun to play
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>>741620989
>>741620992
kek
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Is it possible to have a discussion about any Final Fantasy game without obsessing over this barry faggot
please
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>>741621020
no
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>>741620989
I think you've done a good job of proving the effectiveness of >>741619984
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>Nojima was the main writer for the OG and the remake
>But people still pretend that it was Nomura who changed things
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>>741621020
No. Want to know why?
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/571471310/#571481906
This is why.
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>>741621049
The effectiveness of location you and partaking in your predictable engagement farm? Yeah, I'm seeing it.
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>>741621056
What would be a valid criticism of Nomura?
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>>741620852
The issue with that statement is it assumes the people who made the original didn't also make the remakes.
When you have the original creative directors and writers all creating the Remakes, they are going to have a much better idea on how they want this interpreted, whether you like that version or not.
But I get it, sometimes people enjoy interpreting their own version of a story. Happens all the time in movies, books or other games too.
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>>741621102
The question "what is a valid criticism of 7R" causes you to chimp out and schizopost for hours. And everyone can see that.
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>>741621069
The sheer mental illness this website attracts.
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>>741621140
Please understand, he is incredibly insecure.
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>>741621140
>>741621150
And yet the topic hasn't been discussed one time. Your ritualposts been used to identify and make fun of you for being such a mentally ill engagement farmer. And yet you find victories in it. Because you're mentally ill.
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>>741619984
I must keep this in mind for future threads.
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>>741620968
While true I find that line of questioning to be incredibly reductive and pointless. Like yeah sure the problems wouldn't exist if they made a different game but that is true of literally any game ever so what's the point in even saying that? I'd rather focus on how they could have made this game better while maintaining what they actually hoped to achieve in making it.
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>>741620992
He's still doing it
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>>741621258
Don't refer to yourself in third person. You'll engagement farm until the day you die. You're using that as compensation for the isolated life you lead.
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>>741621185
>engagement farmer
You keep saying this, but it makes no sense. It's all explained here: >>741619984
The question is just a way to find out if you are engaging with a timewasting Barry-tier fanboy or an actual person capable of discussion. It's that simple.

The only reason it makes you angry is because you are Ba7ry and you are that timewasting fanboy. And you would rather schizopost about your enemies than talk about the games.

You have to pretend it's something else because you are the person it is targeting, and it works amazingly well.
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>>741620570
>No one's engaged
1 hour (so far) ((today))
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>>741621375
There you go gaslighting again, and samefag validation will surely follow.
>>741621431
That's correct. I intentionally sought you out because I know where'd you be. I pointed out how your lonely ritualpost didn't attract any attention, because people know what you do. And here you are, an hour later, engagement farming, with no end in sight. Pretty funny.
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>>741618429
Time Jannies and the Stampverse plotlines, the other additions and changes are mostly fine or acceptable IMO (Stuff like the Dyne thing is still a downgrade, but i see it more a reflection of Ratings (CERO) going nuts since the OG and the higher fidelity making things harder to get away with as "Cartoony".). I'd say Materia variety/Link Comboing is pretty meh too, especially considering they removed Materia birth and making what should be Basic QoL for Party Behaviour in an Action Game into Materia needing Slots while still not really having much "Out there" ones.

Even by Rebirth i don't think Combos got as fun to think up as the OG was. Revelation better step that aspect up.
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>>741621482
>I intentionally sought you out
Okay? Thanks schizo. Sorry if asking for a valid criticism of remake was so traumatizing.
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>>741618429
Pacing
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>>741621618
Your current narrative makes no sense, since no one's defending 7R or attempting to correct anyone, or do anything outlined in your little ritualpost that exposes you for what you are, or even talking about it. Your engagement farming nature was pointed out, resulting in an hour of immediate continued engagement farming the moment someone (intentionally) gave you what you sought.

How do you defend this?
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>>741621615
Yeah a lot of people think the main problem with losing cartoonish graphics is it ruins ths silly stuff but it also ruins some serious stuff too because some violent or scary scenes suddenly seem too intense when realistic
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>>741621136
>The issue with that statement is it assumes the people who made the original didn't also make the remakes.
Creators can, and are in fact notorious for, deviating from their own vision with the passage of time. This is especially likely when we consider the culture and output of Square Enix itself has changed substantially, and that we've had all this dumb Advent Children/Crisis whatever muddying up the FF7 brand. Even writing around a different graphical presentation might have influenced the way they perceive their own characters.
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>>741621701
But if they remake it with cartoonish graphics then it's not a remake and no one will buy it.
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>>741621701
But 4K Barret suffering
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>>741621615
The approach they went for in 7r isnt "realistic" either. Compare the character design and features to any other western game. 7r is obviously still have its own artstyle, even cartoony. So it is not anime or full realistic, it is a mix.
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>>741618249
>>Example 1: when Remake adds or extends a scene from the original, the initial prejudice is "why do they add things when the OG is already perfect", instead of "how can the scene from the OG be improved".
because in almost every instance it ruins the pacing of something that already existed. what exactly was added to FF7 by stretching out Midgar, which was like 8 hours in the original, into a bloated 60 hour mess where they were so desperate to pad out the runtime they force you to slow walk and push the control stick forward through a cutscene just to wring out a few extra minutes?
>>Example 2: when the OG does stupid anime things, it is okay because it is the original and you didn't have expectations beforehand.
>But when Remake does stupid anime things, it is thought as silly because you already have an expectation of how a character would behave.
it's because the original was in text with little chibi field sprites, you could imagine/fill in the abstractions yourself. there is no subjective grey area with remake, it's all mocapped/voice acted so it's pure anime. (this is more of an issue with bad localization and the bad english dub which hired a bunch of anime voice actors/anime voice directors instead of real actors like the mainline titles do)
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>>741621683
>nobody is talking about 7R!
They are actually. But you came in and announced you weren't talking about 7R and wouldn't be, and you're only here to talk about me.
I'm flattered, but I think you're mentally unwell.
Just because you're too insecure to talk about 7R doesn't mean others are. Join us whenever you're feeling up to it. Or do another 100 posts about me. (You'll do this)
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>>741621830
Don't forget: he's laughing, he's not mad. He caught you. The ba7ry test didn't work as intended. He wins.
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>>741621830
I mean in the context of this interaction, in which you insist one side is someone who does nothing but do something that hasn't happened a single time we've interacted here.

How do you defend it? You see it's engagement farming, right?
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>>741621872
Here's an idea. Maybe space your samefag validation posts out some more. Wait, say, 10 - 15 minutes before doing so in these slow threads. It also doesn't help that I already know who and what you are, so you're just putting on a show for everyone else.
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>>741621801
>what exactly was added to FF7 by stretching out Midgar
I find spending time with Tifa and Aerith to be a great opportunity to introduce both characters.
While Biggs, Wedge, and Jessie now feels more relevant.
My opinion on the pacing is this >>741620714
Let's be honest the characters in Remake trilogy has more apparent personalities instead of being mostly silent in the OG.
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>>741619068
Hnnng, imagine tifa'r huge feet on yer face
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>>741621925
Here's an idea: next time someone asks for a valid criticism of 7R don't do 100s of seething off topic schizoposts about some poster you're obsessed with and maybe then nobody would think you're Ba7ry and that this >>741619984 isn't really effective at doing its job.

Or, ya'know, talk about the game instead of me.
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>>741621878
Tell me one way in which you differ from Barry.
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>>741621978
I would agree with the exception of Sephiroth. I cannot forgive how much the 2 remake games have butchered Sephiroth's character.
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>>741622071
He can't. He won't even try. He'll deflect and project, and repeat himself. But he won't answer this. Watch.
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>>741621978
>et's be honest the characters in Remake trilogy has more apparent personalities instead of being mostly silent in the OG.
They had plenty of personality and more than enough dialogue in the OG. Filler content was never necessary to convey that.
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>>741621878
>>741622071
Jesus Christ shut the fuck up nobody cares.
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>>741622095
It's happening
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>>741622031
But I am talking about you. That's the one and only thing I've done. Targeted the person behind the ritualposts. Not one point in your engagement farming ritualpost applies. You're getting (You)s solely because I know who you are and what you do.
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>>741622083
Sephiroth didn't appear in the OG until the ship.
If the game is split into three, Sephiroth must be present in part 1 to remind everyone who the real deal is.
It would look very jarring if his first appearance is in the ship scene in Rebirth.
And I think it is true to the convention established in AC that Sephiroth never truly dies, or that Remake is somewhat a sequel.
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>>741622194
>But I am talking about you. That's the one and only thing I've done.
Don't I know it. And don't think I'm not flattered.
>You're getting (You)s solely because I know who you are and what you do.
AND because you're laughing, don't forget that. I have never bothered you or made you mad. How could I? You don't even want to talk about videogames.
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>>741622267
You're getting what you want. Question is, why do you do it? Care to answer the earlier question? The game in question is irrelevant. It has nothing to do with why you're here. This is why you're here. To get this.
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>>741620570
>No one's engaged
2 hours now
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>>741622313
Yeah, and no one's taken the bait he laid out. I gave him what he wants, thus he's spent 2 hours keeping it going. "He's." *wink, wink*
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>>741622312
>why do you do it?
Answered here: >>741621375
But you'll ignore the answer just to say BUT WHY THOUGH forty more times. We've done exactly this before.
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>>741622341
>no one's taken the bait he laid out. I gave him what he wants
Hmmmmmmmmm
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>>741618429
This question made someone seethepost for 2 hours straight?
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>>741622430
So far.
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>>741622368
That makes less than no sense given how you've been at it for 2 hours now. You're her for this, and only this.
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>>741619984
Does the test work in reverse? Can I judge if someone is reasonable by asking
>What would be something praiseworthy about X?
Or does this only apply to schizos who ruthlessly defend games?
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>>741622095
Prophetic
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>you're not worth my time that's why i've spent 2 hours engagement farming and samefagging
Truly incredible, anon. Do you think before you post?
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>>741622449
Someone asks for a valid criticism of 7R and you lose the next few hours of your life to scream into the void. Most amusing, really.
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>>741622536
It goes two ways, lil bro. You just tried to rationalize your behavior by saying it's to avoid people who waste your time. By samefagging and engaging for literally two hours nonstop.
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>>741622473
It does work in reverse. Basically anyone who is unable to say anything good or bad about a game is a timewaster. 100% love or 100% hate is pointless when discussing. Barry and Ba7ry share the same problem.
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>>741622601
Do you often spend 2 - 3 hours going back and forth with timewasters after your test labels them so?
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>>741622583
The only difference between us is you caught me, and you're laughing, and I'm mad and you aren't :(
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>>741618249
i aint reading all that shit, get a life.
What i WILL say is that rebirth is still a great game, but it could have been MUCH better with LESS fucking sidequests and a much better ending ( final 3-4 hours which were utter garbage from temple of ancients onward)
Thats all bitch.
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>>741622616
If I can tell the other guy is really mad, yeah, then it's funny
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>>741622657
kek based
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>>741622635
Caught? No. There's nothing to catch. You are where you are, and this can be initiated at any time. See, you don't even think your posts through before you post. You just tried to say you do this to avoid wasting time on people who don't discuss games, only to now have spent over 2 full hours doing what you do.

Any way to rationalize this?
>>741622657
>>741622672
I know your emotional intelligence level is very low. It all correlates to this behavior.
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>>741622601
Interesting
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>>741621708
I never said it was one to one in totality, there are of course differences (and really that is the whole point of the Remakes), the games have definitely incorporated stuff that is outside the original... And that can also be extended to the characters to a degree.
But it is far closer especially in characterisation than some would have you believe, it's just greatly fleshed out.
The only one that I could really dispute that for is Sephiroth, but his role and presentation is almost entirely different in the Remakes that it would be disingenuous to make a direct comparison that isn't simply disliking that he is no longer "Jaws with a Sword" that just comes in as the looming threat to wreak havoc when the plot demands it.
The point is when the game wants to be, it's very close to the mark with how the OG is presented.
But it is still at the end of the day trying to be an extension of the original and not a direct replacement. So yeah there will be some differences.
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>>741622697
So anon you seem like a rational guy, how will you be justifying the past two hours to yourself?
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>>741618249
What's wrong with liking trans?
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>>741619984
It's actually insane how effective this was
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>>741622754
>i do this to avoid people who waste time
>proceeds to spend nearly 3 hours melting down once it gets attention
Yeah, no. You do this BECAUSE you get these interactions, not because it lets you avoid them. kek, you're not capable of thinking this through.
>>741622754
I'm not the one who just said that I do what I do to avoid wasting time, to then waste an unfathomable amount of time that directly contradicts the claim that it isn't for engagement.

Any response to this? Rationalization? Anything?
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>>741618249
All your examples given make og seem better though?
I like yuffie being animated.
I liked them talking through the wall imprisoned.
Etc
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>>741618249
Dude, they just ruined and changed the whole story and every character for no reason. its not that hard to figure out.
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>>741622804
Because watching you chimping out in your cage while demanding rational answers while caked in shit is amusing. Will that do?
So how do you justify this waste of time?
I know you are allergic to answering questions of any kind because of your insecurities but I'd like to know how you will be telling yourself this hasn't been a wasted 2 hours. (Not that this is the first or last time you'll do this either)

in before the exact same no u aha so you admit so you admit so u so u no u response oooooonce aaaaaaagain
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>>741623031
>claim: you do this (post engagement bait and ritualposts, topic merely adjacent to intent) because you crave the engagement because you're an addict
>counterclaim: NO I DO THIS TO AVOID WASTING TIME
>reality: you've spent nearly 3 hours samefagging and putting on a show for people for the umpteenth time
It doesn't wash, anon. You've just proved the point. Engagement. That's why you do it and will continue to do it. That long trail in the archives? That's why. Intent clear. You've outright lost by confirming what was already know, though denied. You're an idiot.
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>>741622804
Not them but they said they do it to avoid wasting time. However, if the time waster is getting mad then its not wasted time, since its funny.

You seem extremely mad so therefore its funny.
Does that help?
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>>741618651
7R hating schizo BTFO
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>>741623082
Literally skimmed your post to see if you answered the question and you didn't. Of course.
>>741623084
P much this

>>741623082
I'm going to ask you again how you justify the wasted time just so everyone can see you dodge the question again. Seems it makes you uncomfortable.
>no u aha so you admit so you admit so u so u no u
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You've spent 3 hours melting down about not ritualposting for engagement, only to contradict yourself and smugly do a 180 and say you actually do it for engagement, proving the initial point about you being a mentally ill engagement farming schizophrenic. Now you continue to act smug while deflecting and samefagging some more to get a few more slivers of dopamine for your fried receptors. It's sad to witness at this point, actually.
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>>741623212
>no u aha so you admit so you admit so u so u no u proved u lost u lost no u i win i win
Ok got it but how do you justify wasting so much time being mad at others being asked for a valid criticism of 7R?
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>>741618651
Op this 2 second loop that you can see on screen and walk past isnt the same as a 3 minute dance number.
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>>741623212
>>no u aha so you admit so you admit so u so u no u
Naturally.
I'm going to ask you again how you justify the wasted time just so everyone can see you dodge the question again. Seems it makes you uncomfortable.
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And here come the last desperate pleas for more dopamine, as it ignores how it just publicly humiliated itself by not thinking through its performative posts. Genuinely not intelligent enough to do this.
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>>741623212
>while deflecting
No, that's you. You were asked how you justify spending hours doing off topic callouts of a poster you hate instead of talking about videogames. Do you feel it was time well spent?
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>>741623284
>no u aha so you admit so you admit so u so u no u proved u lost u lost no u i win i win
Ok got it but how do you justify wasting so much time being mad at others being asked for a valid criticism of 7R?
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>>741623310
>>741623332
Yeah, I got you to contradict and reveal yourself, and you're not even attempting to deny it after smugly doing so for three full hours. Pretty funny. Maybe you got your fill of dopamine, proving the point and having no need for charades at this point?
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Ba7ry not doing so hot when asked to explain his own schizophrenia.
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>>741623379
Ah, I see. It was worth it, because you, uh... "won"
lol
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>>741623402
>you do it for engagement because you're an addict
>no i do it to avoid wasting time
>3 hours later:
Fucking kek.
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>>741623379
Boy you've got that 'tism something awful, I tell you what.
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>>741623421
It's funny watching you get angrier and angrier. All set off by someone asking for a valid criticism of a videogame.
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>>741623437
Sure, doesn't make the 'zo any less exposed and humiliated. Three hour it denied doing what it then spent three hours doing. By claiming it was to not waste time, when in reality it was to get THIS.

Fucking kek.
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>>741618738
>>741623468
I don't know what the 'zo is. I'd ask, but I know how you feel about questions.
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>>741623468
Christ you are a loser
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>>741623468
this is as good as life gets for you, isn't it
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>>741623494
Schizo. You. You post engagement bait solely to get interactions like this, where you samefag endlessly.

Never forget.
>you do it for engagement because you're an addict
>no i do it to avoid wasting time
>3 hours later:

There's no saving face after getting caught in the lie that exposes you and proves my point. No amount of further samefagging while change that this happened.
>>741623534
Don't you find that ironic, given everything?
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>>741623548
It's over for me... it's over. There's no coming back from this.
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>>741623235
>I'm an tough gamer who can't appreciate silly things!
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>>741623548
I think it's funny that the post that made you go into overdrive was this one >>741619076
And at the very same time OP stopped samefagging to agree with themselves. I guess they were busy.
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someone is fixing the shadow cast so you get a form of global illumination. Japanese devs are cheap they will ruin art direction if it needs to run.

https://youtu.be/ta1WpIeoP1s?si=p6bVG6MAx1WRcgEP
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>>741623685
>you're a samefagging schizophrenic engagement farmer
>no i'm not i just post it (several hundred times over the course of several years, by the way) to filter people who waste my time
>three hours later he's spent at least 100 posts going back and forth
Sorry, son. You were caught in a lie that directly contradicted your claim and exposed you for what you are. You know. The thing you were called from the start.

Once again, no samefagging or attempted gaslighting will change the fact that you managed to expose yourself again. Your posts are strictly performative.
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>>741623693
I saw, but there's no release window yet.
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>>741623610
The dog trying to stand up is the silly thing.
The dance number overstaus its welcome and isnt a joke.

Maybe you are retarded like the others say.
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Hot takes:
>RedXIII dancing scene in Rebirth was 100% mandatory and improves the vibe of the game and progresses the story as it's absolutely essencial to delve into Nanaki's core.
>Ryne's scene was handled better because in the OG it was too tryhard it made me cringe
>Time jannies were absolutely necessary as a commendary towards the "purists" who only played and worshipped the OG and hate remakes. As you see them get in your way you relate to creators and fans who have these purists get in their way and annoy them as well. Peak meta move.
>No one has any valid reason to hate Chadley, you're just mad his name is literally chad
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>>741623748
>caught
>lie
>contradicted
>claim
>exposed
>gaslighting
>expose
>performative
I absolutely love fucking your womanly autism riddled mind
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>>741623832
More deflection with one purpose. To get this response. You know what you are, and now everyone else does.
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>>741623829
I'd ask you what you would consider a valid criticism of 7R but I don't want to set Ba7ry off for another 3 hours.
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>>741623887
Why, are you gonna spend another 3 hours avoiding "wasting time"? I can see you're very good at not wasting your time.
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>>741623887
They could cut down some of the cutscenes, they do take rather longer than I'd prefer.
Mini games shouldn't be "forced" into main story (but hurr durr it happened in the OG as well) I didn't even like it back then.
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>>741623863
Sure man. And don't worry, I doubt any of them noticed you're a weird aspie who argues like a dog pulling on a chew toy. Or that OP and "everyone" who was agreeing with him disappeared as soon as you began your multi hour crusade against your bully.
No, all they noticed was how you EXPOSED the engagement farmer, and never answered any of his questions.

Reply again. Don't keep me waiting.
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>>741622195
>If the game is split into three, Sephiroth must be present in part 1 to remind everyone who the real deal is.
He appears like 5 times and is the final boss. Remake should have not included him at all and then had him teased at the end of it. If everyone already knows Sephiroth being the justification for not needing to hide him then that also means they don't need to show him off constantly either.
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>>741623996
I'll give you what you crave:

>you're a samefagging schizophrenic engagement farmer
>no i'm not i just post it (several hundred times over the course of several years, by the way) to filter people who waste my time
>three hours later he's spent at least 100 posts going back and forth
Sorry, son. You were caught in a lie that directly contradicted your claim and exposed you for what you are. You know. The thing you were called from the start.
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>>741623962
3 hours discussing games with someone who 100% loves or 100% hates them is a waste of time.
3 hours winding up a retarded giga autist is a lot of fun. Glad I could clear that up. Sorry to ruin your gotcha though, I know you were really counting on it.
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>>741624030
see >>741624047
Thank you for the prompt reply though. Give me another.
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>>741624047
DELETE THIS
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>>741624047
Very reasonable.
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>>741618249
This thread has some interesting social dynamics in it. But anyway:
I've never played this game, and have no idea anything about it but it's really interesting to me how the pictures in the OP on the right are clearly higher quality and more detailed but the pictures on the left FEEL like it's a bigger and more expansive world (again: never played either game, so no nostalgia except in the abstract). My guess on why this is: all the visual details in the older game as you see them on your fovea are larger because that game has a lower resource budget. So distant landforms appear simpler because they have fewer small-eyescale elements -- which your brain expects because that's how it works irl. The newer game has more small-eyescale details in the distance (probably to entice the player) but it tricks your brain into thinking they're closer. In the older game, your brain can also directly compare the similar visual elements nearby to distant elements and get a more accurate sizing of those distant landforms; whereas in the newer game there are no features appearing both nearby and far away to use for sizing. All in all, if the newer game faded smaller details in the distance, and placed equivalent objects and patterns periodically to use for distance estimation, that would go a long way to making the newer game feel larger. If the older game used a very slight color filter to simulate atmospheric scattering for distant landforms, that would go a long way to making it feel bigger as well
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>>741618990
>improved
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>>741624130
It's weird how the right side is "better" graphics with correct scale but the ocean looks like a puddle with some mud in it.
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>>741624062
32 seconds between posts, by the way, followed by a flood of samefagging validation posts, just like that time you appeared in an unrelated thread to do it, forgetting yourself. Just like you flood /ffg/ with fatherless and struck nerve posts, and XIII this and XVI that. Just like you do. You're not even trying to hide your samefagging anymore, either.

You can't change your own rules now. There's no point. You know why you do what you do, and I've made you outright confirm it publicly. Again. You're an addict.
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>>741624047
Cannot WAIT for the no u spin on this
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>>741624047
no u!
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Squeenix could have remade FF7 in the 360/PS3 gen, with PS2 level graphics and it would have still sold billions.
And it would not have taken them a literal decade and the GDP of a small country to make.
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>>741624223
Oh shit it really is BA7RY lmao
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More rampant samefagging. He truly is a broken individual.
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are remake fans the most autistic fanbase on here?
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>>741624262
I'm merely a noticer.
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>>741624283
They are certainly the most insecure. Total schizo melty for 3 hours if you ask what a valid criticism of 7R is. What does that tell you?
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>>741624047
Oof, he did not like this
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all the FF7R haters are actually insecure and spiteful FF8 and FF9 fags who never got a remake treatment...
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>>741624130
>TL;DR remake is a visually cluttered mess
Intriguing analysis, however
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>he's STILL playing games
Even here, you've managed to forget yourself by directly replying with the same person within an impossible non-samefag window. Truly grim how unintelliigent this poster is. Look at him go.
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>>741624396
As a FF8 and FF9 fag, we don't want FF7's remake treatment, thanks
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>>741624432
Do you disagree with >>741624047?
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>>741624047
Fuck you, you ruined my victory
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>>741618249
Running across an entire continent for a minute in on the original FF7 world map felt like a significant adventure. You ventured across the entire continent! That's huge!
In Rebirth though? You're just running for a minute. Even if you reach the cliffs, it doesn't feel like you have travelled across an entire continent. At most you're standing on a decently sized island But that's not the same experience at all. Whatsoever.

Why is anyone defending what they did with the overworld?
It's so much worse. So much worse.
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>>741624461
No, because your intent is clear. This is the purpose of your shitposting. This and nothing else. You samefagging to this extent only further proves of mentally ill you are.
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>>741624432
Take solace in the fact that literally nobody cares about you ba7ry. You'll look like a loser schizo in these threads but you'll never be the legend barry himself became.
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>>741624519
>No
Nice, I don't either.
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take shoelace that FF7R3 will be the highest rated FF game with the most sold units ever!
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>>741624047
>3 hours discussing games with someone who 100% loves or 100% hates them is a waste of time.
True, I agree.
>3 hours winding up a retarded giga autist is a lot of fun.
Absolutely. No denying that.
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>>741624539
Haven't mentioned 7R once during this exchange. You'll have to come up with a better name. That's not my MO. I tend to pursue schizophrenics and make them expose themselves. This one just happens to be one of the most far gone I've ever encountered. Just earlier he shared that he had 15 4chan passes, some of them banned already.

You, sorry. Not he.
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>>741624401
ita, fwiw the older game is lacking small and very small eyescale details near the player. It seems like all they would have to add is procedurally placed grass and rocks, or a shader that does the equivalent, and that would be enough. Though it seems like our brains generally are more accepting of losing small scale details than having too many small scale details, so that's probably why it isn't nearly as bad as the newer game's issue
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>>741624632
>Haven't mentioned 7R once
So we have an off topic shitposter. And you did this for... 3 hours? Why?
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>>741624673
Because I knew what you do and why you do it. You still do it. Once you contradicted yourself, you dropped the facade entirely. Even the samefagging facade.

Gonna tell me why you do it? Why so many 4chan passes? You're literally paying to do this to the extent that you do. Why?
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>>741624632
>That's not my MO. I tend to pursue schizophrenics
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>>741624736
holy shit faggot shut the fuck up. your game fucking sucks ass. just accept it or kys
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>>741624736
Please take meds or seek phsyciatric help
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>>741622785
Trans women are women incel not trans.
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>>741624774
>>>/vg/571481906
Sure, buddy. You've put the samefagging show on display in random threads where there wouldn't be plausible deniability. Who are you trying to fool?
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>>741624632
>I tend to pursue schizophrenics and make them expose themselves.
Who else have you exposed, great detective?
And does this mean you spend most of your time in threads not talking about games but doing this schizo hunting?
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>>741624047
I wish you hadn't posted this
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I'm actually waiting for the "complete" version of FFVII. No way I'm paying for chunks of a single game.
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>>741624632
>Just earlier he shared that he had 15 4chan passes
you've said this 4 times in this thread already. no one cares or even believes you. you have an unhealthy obsession schizofaggot
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>>741624935
>i ritualpost to avoid wasting time
>no you do it to engagement farm because you're a schizo who's done it for years
>FOUR HOURS LATER
You've exposed yourself. I'm just a willing participant. You're genuinely unwell. All those 4chan passes. All that samefagging. Day in. Day out. FOUR HOURS at a time, and that's just today here with me. What about the other hundreds upon hundreds of hits in the archives? You have an odd way of not wasting your time, schizobro. Gonna ignore this post and samefag some more and claim victory? Yep.
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>>741625004
>32 second window between direct responsess to someone with the same persona
>immediately followed by a flood of posts patting him on the back
Not being subtle, anon.
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>>741625009
Oh man if only someone hadn't posted >>741624047
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>>741625072
How many times are you gonna samefag that post? If one of your sessions got banned, would a third of them disappear? A fourth?
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imagine if we had thread ids
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>>741625072
you're like the mother 3 schizo lmfao
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>>741625103
I know you're mad about it ruining your big victory but please calm down
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>>741625139
I'd have the same ID. The samefagging schizo would have at least four. He's got an entire setup to create this controlled chaos of his.
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>>741625140
Is that another one of your successful exposes? I'd love to see the full list
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>>741618249
Hi OP, just wanted to say that im sorry your thread got poisoned by Jimbo on post 1 >>741618429
. It's not the post itself that ruins everything but his presence just planily states "im gonna stay here samefagging to eternity to bury this discussion". This is probably your first time dealing with him and yeah, he falseflags, yeah he samefags, i'm glad you just learned his nature immediately.
Honestly, theres no way around it, he's genuinely mentally ill as you can see so dont bother try to fight.
As for your topic, yeah i've made the same arguments before, people tend to overrate way too much the original and make special exceptions for it because, well, it is the original. I dont think people are gonna read this and say "wait...you are right!": Humanity is stubborn, i am stubborn too. The only thing we can do is just to trust in ourselves, excercise critical thinking and not be an NPC, like many others that fills this website.
At this point just dont fight it, stay put lurking, just go to work do other stuff, and casually just keep seeing how >>741624047 keeps samefagging and bumping your thread. You'll see how he spends his time, daily, in every FFVIIR thread. Now you notice. You are out of the matrix finally.
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Okay you're here, good
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>>741618429
ok just once i will explain why 7r criticism is objectively not "valid"
Before 2015, i was just your usual /v/ poster that always begged for remakes of my old favorite games, and with that i created this perfect remake in my head of X game. dont tell me you didnt do the same i will not believe you.
When the remake was announced, i screamed. I thought it was gonna be the best thing ever and all. Time passed and once the dust settled, while lurking here and other places, i realized that if i expect this remake to be exactly what i wanted or a replacement of the original game, i was gonna be heavily dissapointed. So what did i do? i just hoped for a good game, a game where i could sit down, play it and say "wow that was entertaining, im glad i played it, cant wait to see more". A complement of the original, a game that it is its own thing and i judge it just like that. Not to mention that in the interviews they have said countless of times that there was gonna be changes.
And guess what? thats what i got and more. To me it doesnt replace the original, it just enhances it. A complement. Unlike most of you, i never thought that the original needed a remake at all. Even if i dont replay it anymore since it bores me to death since it doesnt offer me anything now, boomers like me have played it thousands of tmes. do you want a modern FF7 without the old ps1 restrains and objectively better characters, music, graphics and gameplay? play remake
>b-b-but muh time jannies muh story bla bla muh backgrounds epic ps1 old legend!
Then play new threat. It is the same ff7 just better written, waaaaaay better gameplay, balance and better usage of its mechanics. Also, more content, more sidequests and so on. Theres no reason to play the original anymore.
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>>741625860
And to end and this explain this idea on why i stopped asking for remakes? it is pretty simple. Fans dont know what they want and there are never clear ideas. And when the corps offer you something thats supposed to represent you, you just throw it away like a cumrag. People want remakes, but dont want the same game, but only new content that THEY like and fit their own headcanon. Stop asking for remakes. If you ask for remakes, expect changes. If you expect changes, expect stuff you probably wont like. It is that simple. Do you want a remake? then accept the risk or just shut the fuck up. Do you understand? If you want complain: JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP. you wanted a remake, a remake will have changes. Accept that and be quiet. even if you got the perfect remake you imagined you would nitpick and hate it. You cannot want remake then turn around and say "no i hate it"
THAT is why i do not accept you complain about time jannies and kingdom hearts and bla bla
i do not accept you complain about muh elevator instead of realistic
i do not accept you complain about cid isnt 24/7 smoking instead of realistic
i do not accept you complain about Dirge. FF7 never had the most stellar storytelling to begin with.
i actually play videogames so i never felt this "horrible padding" people mention so much

or any of your other nitpicks that you make huge deal just because it was different to what you imagine in your head. All of you forgot about what videogames are. Videogames rarely are well written unless its a videogame movie like the last of us 1.
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>>741624496
>Running 3 seconds in the original
battle.jpg
>Running 4 seconds
battle.jpg
>Running 5 seconds
battle.jpg
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>>741625789
>I dont think people are gonna read this and say "wait...you are right!"
They would if they weren't stubborn. That's the only reason others wouldn't agree with you.
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Why is ff7 remake criticized so much "seriously" while other games in the franchise can be allowed to he called masterpieces and criticism of them is just water under the bridge
With ff7 remake you cant say "yeah this stuff was stupid haha i love this game" otherwise you are a fanboy consoomer, while in other games like ffix with its trash combat and 3rd to 4th disk being bad can be called masterpiece and people dont really criticize it seriously
Basically, with ff7 remake you look at bad first and foremost and then slightlly the good, while other games are just all good except this nitpicks, but they are not bad since "it has soul".
You can feel the special treatment the game has.
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>>741625918
do you even like this genre
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>>741618249
Look at this. OP.
Did you know he likes to go to 2020 threads, take posts that infuriated him and then repost them with some falseflagging spice on it?
>>529427296
Yeah, thats the kind of mental illness we are talking about. Now you see the garbage we have to deal with daily in every FFVIIR.
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>>741625789
>>741625987
If people had more critical thinking skills they would agree with you because you are objectively correct
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>>741626043
>falseflagging spice
What parts do you feel are misrepresenting you?
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>>741618429
Cut it out with the antisemitism
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>>741618249
Some changes and additions were welcomed, but many were a total downgrade, clearly put there just to pad out the empty space. Replaying it now, I see the OG as a straight up seinen. The worst changes in the remakes happened because they compromised the bold original vision of a dying, fucked up world just to cater to the PG13 crowd, modern audiences, and normies. They desperately wanted to attract a new generation of FF fans, but in the process, they completely alienated the old ones. Because the OG is so anime coded, it is fair to compare both versions using anime genres. The OG captures the spirit of 90s classics like Bebop, Eva, and Berserk, while the remake feels more like Disney's corporate approach to Star Wars.
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>>741626131
I like when he can't answer this. The real cherry on top is when posts are word for word his own and he still calls it falseflagging because he thinks his own opinion sounds retarded.
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>>741625918
It means a certain level of strength and or resources are needed in order to travel across specific stretched of land.
It's fun.
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>>741618429
KEK fucking murdered.
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>>741618249
Censorship and whedonesque writing are all I need to hate Demake. Games based on FF7 like E33 are better than the actual game based on FF7.
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FUCK ALL THIS GAY SHIT
REMAKE WAS DEMAKE
REBIRTH WAS REDDITBIRTH
WHAT IS REVELATION GOING TO BE
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>>741627297
That's not very different from Remake.
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>>741628214
REPULSIVE
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bump
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Primacy bias is valid in works of art.
A remake needs a very strong justification to exist in the first place. I don't know a single one that I would consider valid (meaning: objectively and significantly better than the original).
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>>741620038
I think the voice acting is more or less pretty good. And I won't say this game is irredeemable garbage or that it's all bad either. I think the festival of lights scene with Aerith was actually a pretty good scene for example, but the problem is a lot of the good moments are completely lost in how absolutely dense the game is, even if you don't engage with a lot of side content
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>>741618249
>the creators themselves have primacy bias and make the remake shitty on purpose to drive sales of the modern system ports of the original games, which are higher margin products
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>>741620201
You don't, though. You never do.
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>>741618249
I unironically I am glad we got the remake. The upleveled my wife to levels I couldn't imagine. I love the extended dialogue and stories for the other characters like Barrett
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>>741620602
Christ... You are so fucking bad at fitting in, BA7RY.
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>>741618249
Left was made by Japanese
Right was designed by Japanese and outsourced to China/India/Korea/Malaysia/etc

All of the Japanese style is removed



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