>pay 40% more to get identical performance on average. melting 12vhpwr cable as a bonus.>complain online that Nvidia charges too much and a monopolyWhat kind of mental illness is this?
im too scared to swap to AMD because of driver memes
>>741620507AMDs biggest failure financially is missing out on ai, as it's so much worse than Nvidia.
>>741620507turn on raytracing, post results.
>>741620615>can't read
>>741620538Drivers are fine but FSR4 is still noticeably behind DLSS, and more frustrating is that not every new game has support for the latest FSR model. Can't really blame devs either if less than 5% customers are on AMD. Njuden has achieved total control.
>>741620615you mean path, raytracing is practically on par nowadays between the two
>>741620507>buying either a 5070 or 9070 to play games withwhat kind of self flagellation is this?
>>741620538i was too until i said fuck it and got a 7800XT at launch, and i have yet to see any issue. And i'm playing a lot of big new releases.
>>741620538Retard
>>741620615>half your framerate for some pipe and puddle reflectionsyou actually need a 10k PC to justify that shit
>>741620538I've never had any driver issues with Nvidia and AMD GPUs.
>>741620650AyyMD simply made a lot of stupid decisions.Requiring 3rd party software to get upscaling working should not be a thing.Normalfags don't even know about optiscaler.
>>741620538>>741620650logically AMD should eventually catch up to DLSS since nvidia is deep into the AI meme to bother with improving raster or even making DLSS better. but realistically AMD would just use this as another opportunity to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. its obvious they collude on prices and maybe performance too
>>741620507>AMDdriver timeouts
I've seen a lot of stupid people call something a monopoly but I've never seen anyone ever claim Nvidia is a monopoly.
>>741621007I don't want AMD to catch up to DLSS 5.
>>741621062it was implied in my post that NVIDIA is not making DLSS any better (since they are wasting time and money on that AI slop filter they made instead)
>>741620676>raytracing is practically on par nowadaysThere is no need to be dishonest, it doesn't help anyone and just comes off as cope.
>>741621145>nuking your framerate to make interiors darker
>>741621221>places with no light sources are darkerYes.Also it runs pretty well with a 4090, I'm never dipping below trippe digit FPS without framegen, pic above from a youtube vid.
>>741620538these days the tables have turned
>>741620507Its just smelly jeets protecting their investments saar. There is zero reason to ever buy a 5070 when the 9070xt exists. Either you bend the knee and go 5080/90 or you take the 9070xt at this price bracket. Below there are more options, ironically the cheapest ai slop card is the fucking intel ARCs
>>741620507>image is of the retarded youtuber who made videos claiming insider knowledge of DLSS when he actually only spoke to a marketing grunt. What kind of mental illness listens to youtubers?
>>741621797lol. how desperate are you?
Why browns love Nvidia so much?
>you must be brown to choose the more expensive and advanced gaming tech
>>741621145Reshade can darken the whole screen for free. Kek imagine being nvidiadrone
>>741622675what does darkening a screen have to do with anything?
>>741620538Driver's are fucked. Dragons Dogma 2 is basically unplayable on AMD without mods.Don't believe the memes
>>741622606it's because they are the ai hardware companyamd is pure and ignoring ai shit on purpose because they think it's dumb and a meme that will die soonamd is pro-consumer
>>741622675I use reshade for screenspace GI and AO in some older games, but it doesn't replace PT since it's screenspace only and can't account for light bounces from outside.Also your favrela box would probably blow up with resahde aswell since it's about as stressing on the GPU as PT.
>>741622606playing in 4k is better with dlss chud
>>741620507Where are all the chink GPUs? I'm tired of paying 2x the price of a console just for an above average card
>>741623125Bro they are gonna blow up your house. Havent you seen all those liveleak clips involving chink electronics
>>741620538got 9070xt for christmas. the only time drivers crashed was in stalker 2. otherwise no problems
My last ever AMD purchase was 21st December 2012. It took me just 5 days of using it to realise how shit AMD are and to replace it. I will never buy AMD again.
>>741623228>legal IEDs that you can buy in bulksounds too good to be true
>>741622828That's not because of the drivers, it's because of capcom's own incompetence
>tfw the highlight of my year so far is being able to buy a new 5800x3d when it rereleases in a couple daysIs this sad
>>741620507Really nice.1, Now see path tracing.2, Now realize there are other reasons why AMD is "dirt" cheap.I don't hate AMD, I have AMD systems but the support for Nvidia is night and day unless you play very specific games. Want to play older titles on AMD? Ooops. Game you like has extras only work on Nvidia (like game in the example)? Ooops. Your brand new AMD card is not supported anymore with the newest feature sets and the community need to bully the company for a year to backport it after they accidentally made it obvious it works on "old" cards? Ooops.For consoles, handhelds, dirt cheap prebuilts made for esports sure AMD is ok.You actually want to play top end games? Which I may assume if you buy a top VGA in 2026? Then Nvidia is the only way. Sorry if it hurts your feelings but AMD always comes with a BUT.
>>741621221Same was said about dlss and rt at the beginning.
>>741620507I don't know about this game but the GPU always has to be balanced against the CPU and the native resolution. There are loads of CPU bound games that get no extra frames $500 vs $2000 GPU, native res 1080p gaming, or games where the 4K performance upgrade is like 20 vs 24 FPS such that no GPU delivers a good experience. Capcom does a really good job catering to the lower GPU tiers so it's totally unsurprising that mid range is where it's at here.
>>741621221It's ok. Gaming will be moving to DLSS5 soon. Well good gaming will be , yours won't. lol
>>741620507Got a 24gig 7900 xtx simply because there were no 40/5090s on the market with an additonal 1k slapped on. Not gonna pay Pikachu tax to support neets who took a loan to resell. Less driver issues than the nvidia card I had before that. Yes it isn't as good at generating fake pictures as a nvidia card, but I turn that off anyway since it makes most things look worse. Probably gonna get AMD again if I don't get nuked until I upgrade my PC.
>>741623789>Want to play older titles on AMD? Ooops.can you provide actual examples? like not trolling, Im curious
>>741623789meanwhile nvidia now comes with the BUT of having to cling to a dying operating system, cable that fucking kills itself, vibecoded drivers that force you to hold back on updates and extremely shit value proposition and physical hardware concessions on every tier
>>741623828DLSS 1.0 was genuinely shit and not even worth turning on. There's maybe 3 games total that use RT to any impressive effect. If you're not playing Control or Cyberpunk, you might as well never turn on RT.
>>741623984I've not had Nvidia driver issues in about 10 years or more. I think people like you with these issues are just a bit stupid on PC setup and so blame drivers rather than accept you're retarded
>>741621145>Anon says that raytracing between the 9070xt and 5070ti is extremely similar>Posts an image comparing raytracing and pathtracing on a 5080 as a gotcha
>>741624040>There's maybe 3 games total that use RT to any impressive effect.A Plague Tale: RequiemAlan Wake 2Ambulance Life: A Paramedic SimulatorAmid EvilArcadegeddonAron’s AdventureAsh EchoesAtomic HeartAvatar: Frontiers of PandoraAvowedBatora: Lost HavenBattlefield 2042Battlefield VBlack Myth: WukongBlind Fate: Edo no YamiBrickadiaBright MemoryBright Memory: InfiniteCall of Duty: Black Ops Cold WarCall of Duty: Modern Warfare (2019)Call of the SeaChernobyliteChorusControlConway: Disappearance at Dahlia ViewCrysis Remastered TrilogyCyberpunk 2077Dead Space (2023)DeathloopDeliver Us The MoonDeliver Us to the MoonDiablo IVDirt 5DolmenDoom EternalDragon Age: The VeilguardDragon’s Dogma 2Dying Light 2 Stay HumanEA Sports F1 24Echo Point NovaElden RingEscape from NarakaEverspace 2EvotinctionExit FromF.I.S.T.: Forged in Shadow TorchF1 2021F1 22Far Cry 6Five Nights at Freddy’s: Security BreachFobia — St. Dinfna HotelForspokenFortniteForza Horizon 5Forza MotorsportFritz Chess 18Gears 5GhostrunnerGhostrunner 2Ghostwire: TokyoGodfallGori: Cuddly CarnageGotham KnightsGrand Theft Auto V EnhancedGrid LegendsGripperGungrave G.O.R.EHalo InfiniteHeliosHell PieHellblade: Senua’s SacrificeHello Neighbor 2Hitman 3Hitman: World of AssassinationHomeworld 3Hood: Outlaws & LegendsHouse of AshesIcarusIn The BlackIndiana Jones and the Great CircleIndustriaJurassic World Evolution 2JusticeJustice OnlineJX3 OnlineKunitsu-Gami: Path of the GoddessLayers of Fear (2023)Lego Builder’s Journey
>>741624123AMD still can't do path tracing, that's the point.
>>741624040Lies of PLords of the FallenMafia: Definitive EditionMarvel’s Guardians of the GalaxyMarvel’s Midnight SunsMarvel’s Spider‑Man RemasteredMarvel’s Spider‑Man: Miles MoralesMechWarrior 5: MercenariesMetro Exodus Enhanced EditionMinecraft (RTX)Mortal ShellMortal Shell: Enhanced EditionMotoGP 24Mount & Blade II: BannerlordMyth of EmpiresNaraka: BladepointNeed for Speed UnboundNightmare KartNightingaleNioh 2 Complete EditionObserver: System ReduxOutridersParadise KillerParanormal HunterPortal RTXPortal Prelude RTXPost ScriptumQuake II RTXRatchet & Clank: Rift ApartRedfallRemnant IIResident Evil 2 (RT mod)Resident Evil 3 (RT mod)Resident Evil 4 RemakeResident Evil VillageReturnalRoboCop: Rogue CitySackboy: A Big AdventureSaints Row (2022)ScatheScornShadow Warrior 3Shadow of the Tomb RaiderShattered: Tale of the Forgotten KingSherlock Holmes Chapter OneSifuSiltSins of a Solar Empire IISker RitualSniper Elite 5Sons of the ForestSpace Marine 2Spider‑Man RemasteredSpider‑Man: Miles MoralesSpirit of the North 2Star Wars Jedi: SurvivorStarfield (RT update pending)SteelrisingStraySuicide Squad: Kill the Justice LeagueSword and Fairy 7SyncedSystem Shock (2023)
>>741624040S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of ChornobylStar Wars OutlawsStormgateStranger of Paradise: Final Fantasy OriginStellar BladeStreets of Rogue 2Subnautica RTX (prototype)Sun Wukong: Black MythSuper PeopleSuperfuseTales of Arise (RT update)TeardownTerminator: Dark Fate – DefianceThe AscentThe Callisto ProtocolThe Division 2 (RT update)The FinalsThe First DescendantThe InvincibleThe Lord of the Rings: GollumThe MediumThe Outlast TrialsThe RiftbreakerThe Witcher 3: Wild Hunt (RT update)Throne and LibertyTimeSpy (3DMark)Trepang2Turok 3 RemasteredUnreal Engine RTX DemosVampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2Warhammer 40,000: DarktideWarhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2Watch Dogs: LegionWitchfireWuxia: MasterXuan-Yuan Sword VIIYakuza: Like a Dragon (RT mod)Yakuza Kiwami 2 (RT mod)Zenith: The Last City
>>741624087Or I just have very few driver issues with the amd card... oh well your post really reads like you can't say the same about nvidia and need to cope.
>>741624156>no you see, games that would look good if they were made before raytracing by using skill and clever tricks are made better by raytracingyou're brown
>>741624156>>741624221Okay guy, turn RT on/off in Returnal or Diablo 4 or Mechwarrior 5 and post some screenshots ITT and have anons try to guess which ones are the RT shots. Atomic Heart doesn't have RT btw, they just did a spectacular job with baked lighting. True story.
>>741624216That's why he said "you mean Path". You just wanted to dunk on the guy even though he's saying what you were saying.
>>741624306>only 3 games>lists 192 games with RT >"b-b-but you're brown"you bought a shit AMD gpu, your'e a certified mong.
>>741624375>londonjeet defends developer incompetencelol
>>741624348>Okay guy, turn RT on/off inI don't have to. Why should I?
>>741624375Answer:>>741624348>-t 5090 chad
Genuinely why is is that GPU brand warring is somehow even gayer and more annoying that console warring?
>>741624481it's the same people doing it.
>>741621145>cpu 81C>cpu 88Cwhat the fuck, are those normal?
>>7416205071000-700 is 300, which is 30% of 1000, not 40% retard. 30% is already quite significant, no reason to do the wrong math.
After all these years I'm fully behind the anons who kept saying that AMD, since Lisa Su, is "controlled opposition". They just won't invest in software to keep Nvidia's competitive edge thriving when it comes to GPUs. They can do CPUs just fine, but GPUs are Nvidia's game and they can only touch so much. It's not possible that a company this fucking big and wealthy can be so fucking incompetent when the market share is right there. You may say "Hold up, look at Microsoft then. They are wealthy as hell, yet Windows fucking sucks". Yeah, MS is a monopoly. There's no one else threatening Windows.
>>741624507probably using the shitty stock cooler, you won't get such temps with something decent like a noctura
>>741624559And I say this as someone who only had ATI/AMD cards over the years. It's pure suffering to support this bloody company and if I weren't dependend on Linux I would have gone with Nvidia since long ago.
>>7416245131000/700=143%, 43% morego back to school
>>741624507depends on ambient
>>741620507I was able to play cyberpunk on 4k + mods + Ultra because of dlss 4.0 and framegen with my 5070ti. Can the 9070xt do the same?
>>741620538Last AMD card I ever had problems with was the Vega64, and even then they were very minute problems. I feel like it's just overblown at this point.
>>741622828I beat dragons dogma 2 on RELEASE on a mid-tier AMD card, you fucking retard. some frame dips is not UNPLAYABLE faggot>>741620538The drivers meme is from a decade ago, and have been way overblown by shills. In the world of computer parts, it fluctuates constantly between what GPU brand is better, and its better to judge them based on specific models than brands as a whole. It's like saying all Nvidia CPUs brick your PC because of one shitty CPU they released.
>>741624275You just stated you had less issues with drivers than you had with your previous GPU. So you've had issues with drivers with both GPUs. I've had zero issues. You've had issues spanning multiple GPUs. You're clearly a slobbering spastic
>>741624481Because they often compare shit that isn't even in stock atm or overpriced because of the ram shortage and all the advertisement goes towards things that aren't available or the most retarded purchase ever since 16 gigs won't be enough in 2 years if things go on. So they not only shill overpriced scalped shit, they shill overpriced shit when that in 2 years gonna be the joke of "he boughted 16gig card" threads
>>741624846>Everything works perfectly now, trust me. AMD hasn’t had any issues for many years, and if I’m wrong, the only thing you’ll lose is some money.
>>741624869Man your card must be really running like shit, lmao.
Not using AMD GPUs. Suck my weewee.
>>741624942>I don't have driver issues>y-y-your card must be running like shitWhat actually goes on in the minds of people who are malnourished and living in poverty?
>>741624996>"i have less driver issues">"sssuuuuiiiii reeeee reeeee tard"My mind tells me, that I wouldn't see the need to squeal like a little piggy because someone mentioned having less driver issues if that really wasn't a problem I never experienced.
>>741625241Your mind is clearly deranged and coping.
>>741620538driver issues are windows exclusive thing when an silent windows update bricks your drivers without asking. and even then it only happens on the goy OS, LTSC has zero issues with amd drivers.
>>741625375 lol >trust me bro. it's only money
>>741624481You haven't seen /pcbg/ on /g/. There are at least 3 shizos waging tribal war 24/7. Or maybe it's just a 1 very sick person, you never know.
Ray Reconstruction 4.5 soon!
>>741626345>You haven't seen /pcbg/ on /g/.Oh I very much have. I remember for a bit spergs would race to make the new thread so that they could remove AMD/Nvidia cards from the recommended section and tell people not to get (x) cards. This place is like a zoo.
>>741620538Drivers are only good if you buy flagship cards. AMD drops support for their mid to low end cards quickly.
>>741620507I'd have gone with an AMD gpu if it wasn't for worse AI support.
>>741626614Someone should study their behavior it's like a missing link between human and ape.
>>741620538But this gene it was Nvidia that had driver problems.t. bought a 5080
>>741624416Then I will do it, here JW2.
>>741626956And here it again but with RT enabled which in that anon's head is an impressive effect.
>>741620507Now turn on DLSS and get an extra 50 fps at no image quality impact. Using stock performance is retarded when the main appeal of nvidia is all their tech aside from better efficiency.
>>741624481Neither is real just jeets fighting jeets 24/7
>>741624513Lmao retard
>>741620507You want the 5070ti for AI, but even then you have cheaper options for AI like a 3090
>>741620507No PT, lmao. Are you retarded?
>>741627041I checked 2 other games and neither of them actually have RT, imagine my shock.
>>741624481AMDfags have always been obnoxious. Basically the Nintendo of PC gaming.
>>741627579nvidia is just as overpriced and surrounded by vibes cult as nintendo
>>741626956Out of all the games you chose fucking Jurassic world, the game which would benefit the least from actual graphics. Moron
>>741627041>And here it again but with RTIt has RTAO only
>>741624031>a dying operating systemI'm not unreasonable but come on. Anyone who argues with Windows is dying should look at Steam stats and sit down.
>>741625375Driver crashes after sleep has been an issue for years on multiple amd cards
>>741624481>PCfags shit on consolefags for clinging to their favorite toy brand>PCfags when someone mentions intel/amd, amd/nvidia, Steam/other stores, denuvo+anticheat, various forms of piracy, oled/lcd or pretty much any kind of hardware comparison where one option might be suboptimal based on some personal criteria
>>741629028maybe on the 5700xt
>>741623267I bought a 3570k (later upgraded to the legendary 4790k) and GTX 670 (ASUS DirectCU II) that very same month too
>>741623267there is hardly any difference anymore now but amd are the premiere cpu and are comparable GPUs without DLSS4+
