All memes aside, you guys do realize you *literally* don't need more, right?Whatever graphical upgrade you get by bumping textures from high to very high will literally not be noticeable by most users in a blind test, same with ray tracing, volumetrics etc. Anything above 8GB is buying enterprise specs for a consumer level workload
It's 2026 people don't play in 1080p anymore
>>741622945Ok but every faucet in gta 6 should have perfect splash dynamics
I want more. now what?
>>741622945works at 1080p + FSR Quality + low-medium
>>741623010now try a thread for a new video game and count how many screenshots are 1080pyou'll be surprised
>All memes aside, you guys do realize you *literally* don't need more, right?>Whatever graphical upgrade you get by bumping textures from high to very high will literally not be noticeable by most users in a blind test, same with ray tracing, volumetrics etc. >Anything above 8GB is buying enterprise specs for a consumer level workload
>guys guys, I've realised that my poorfag spec PC is all everyone needs.
>>7416230108GB entry level cards have been good for higher resolutions for several generations now, just bump down the textures and ray tracing
>>741622945I didnt become pc master race to play on resolutions lower then consoles
>>741623054Then buy the more expensive product, no one's stopping you
>>741623010Retard4k is a meme and 2k is pointlessI play 1080p on my 4060, everything at medium/high settings, the occasional RT feature + FrameGen, lock at 60fps, and I had the time of my life.Also, I'm a 3D generalist doing meme videos for chinks magazines, so don't believe the "you need a 10k computer if you are serious into X".
>>741623171>4k is a meme and 2k is pointlesssour grapes poverty anon
>>741623010>It's 2026 people don't play in 1080p anymore>lil nigga doesn't know the most common GPUs in the market are the 3060 and the 4060m
>>741623089kek thiswhat a weird cope
>>741623356how many GB does the 3060 have, anon?
>>7416236706 to 12The 12GB model is redundant though since the card literally doesn't have enough compute to keep up
>>741623010I played crysis 3 in 4k using my 760 with 4gb vram onboard. The issue is not we're playing in 4k. The issue is devs refusing to optimize and want us to rely on upscalers instead of actually pursuing the optimization of raster graphics.
>>741622945I have 8gb and regularly max outThe problem isn't that it's not enough, the problem is game devs fucking suck at optimising their shitty ass SWEETCUM™ FX™™
>>741623139The OP says I don't require it
>>741622945why are you trying to justify to others your poorfag status? How is it our problem your poor?
>>741623986*you're
>>741622945Man, 16 years ago people were telling me the exact same thing about 8GB of normal RAM.
>>741623705yeah, my 3060Ti has 8GB and it benchmarks is always above 3060 12GB
>>741622945It's enough if you just want shit to run. The usual xx60 role. But if you want to flex, you need more.
>>741623356My 3060 12gb can do 1440p at 60fps for everything that's not aaa slop. I just don't use raytracing.
Protip to all broccoli-headed zoomers new to PC gaming: build your rig for the games you play. You don't need to sink four thousand dollars of your parents' money if all you're playing is Roblox and Fortnite.
>>741624119>flexTo whom? A bunch of Pakistanis on an anonymous taiwanese watercoulouring online forum?
>>741622945>gpu costs rise in accordance with inflation>the wages do not>anon calls more than 8gb vram "enterprise"Many such cases. Btw you can buy used 3090 for $700. Enjoy your 24gb vram.
Being poor is not a virtue. It's okay to want the best things in life
>>741623171just admit that you're a poor faggot & a fake frame cucki have 4080 S just for movies and youtube
>>741623010I do akshually because I have a relatively small monitor for modern standards and the image quality is just right from the distance I view it.
>>741624067ILM had to upgrade their animation rigs to 8gb ram while animating the giant roboworm in transformers. The more you know.
>>741624246Creating e-waste is not a virtue either tbqh. I hate the concept of having to constantly upgrade for games that look no better than they did 5 and in some cases fucking 10 years ago.
>>741624312>e-wasteHow often do you swap your pc parts and do you just throw the old ones out
>>741624312They do look better but you wouldn't know playing on your xx50 machine.
>>741623808Upscaling is a double edged sword. On one hand, I like that it improves performance, but on the other, I hate how it's become the norm to use even on high end cards if you want to squeeze out the maximum capacity of visuals without sacrificing framerate.
>>741624246>Being poor is not a virtueExactly, which is why you shouldn't spend money superfluously. If you park your money in an ETF instead of upgrading your PC every other year you'll be much richer
>>741624349They don't, that's the issue. There are exceptions but they're rare, which shouldn't be the case.
>>741624209>usedTerrible idea unless you're also skilled in repair.
>>741624406>I hate how it's become the norm to use even on high end cardsThat's because DLSS quality literally looks better than native to most people
>>741624468you can test hardware with tools, even a pc illiterate zoomer like you can do it
>>741624337Every 2 years or so I do some kind of upgrade.>and do you just throw the old ones outI sell them at a loss like most people. But I like using the hardware for as long as it's actually usable and I don't say this as someone who is poor. A PC config should be able to last you at least 10 years like a console does.
>>741624010sure got me there poorfag. Enjoy gaming in 1080p while the rest of us enjoy 4k oled bliss.
People who still think they need more remember SVGA monitors and Voodoo3 cards. They remember when computers would always need upgrades.
>>741624406I hate upscaling with passion. The difference between native res and upscaled stuff is like night and day. Native res also doesn't suffer from ghosting or smudging that upscalers introduce. I fucking hate the upscalers and I would rather play in native 1080p than play 4k where any motion goes through vaseline filter.>disable motion blur>if you use upscaler you get motion blur for free
>>741622945>All memes aside, you guys do realize you *literally* don't need more, right? Whatever graphical upgrade you get by bumping textures from high to very high will literally not be noticeable by most users in a blind test, same with ray tracing, volumetrics etc. Anything above 8GB is buying enterprise specs for a consumer level workload
>>741622945all meme's aside, you guys do realise you *literally* don’t need more right ?
>>741624527>A PC config should be able to last you at least 10 years like a console does.a pc config from 10 years ago can barely boot to windows 11 with its 8gb ram
>Just be rich
>>741624492the 'native' you're talking about is regular upscaling. native 4k raster will always look sharper and more detailed than 720p upscaled to 4k, no matter whether you use lanczos-sharp or dlss
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>>741624468The only reason why I won't buy it myself is because apparently 3090 memory dies are prone to overheating and dying. Tons of offers for 3090s with 20gb vram because one die had to be disabled in card bios.
>>741624601That's an issue though. We're getting the same capability except it requires more.Web browsing in itself has become more resource demanding while not offering an experience that is innovative in the true sense. So no, I'm not installing 900 terabytes of RAM just so I can open a calculator app.
>>741622945>8gb vramgoyslopsome might even call it goychewbut I call it goyfeed
>>741624601A normal person wouldn't be running windows 11
>>741624719While I think Windows is still better for gaming, that's one advantage of Linux, at least it makes "obsolete" hardware viable again.Maybe I'm looking at this too much from the perspective of a car guy, but you can get an ancient automobile to run well and be usable in 2026. You can't really do that in hte PC world.
>>741624776entirely different tech used for different purposesI get what you mean though
>>741624643now lets see the rest of your setup daddy's boy>5090 user defending 1080p gamingplease tell me you have a decent monitor. It would be fucking hilarious if you don't.
>>741622945>you guys do realize you *literally* don't need more, right?i do though for "AI" you do realize that rightlet alone when games stop being retarded indian curry and finally make use of it example every npc actually talks via mic in whatever language you speak, you know what maybe you guys are too dumb to imagine the future and im wasting my clicks cause most of the time when I mention this someone calls me an idiot, and im sat here looking at those blurry ass optimizations like you really don't see why you need more for the graphics let alone the future? you might be an idiot.
>>741624625I'm not talking about my own preference, it's an objective fact that PC gamers prefer DLSS quality over native in blind tests that have been replicated ba few times now
>>741624601Yea but with the way everything is going, your PC is going to have to last you 10 years. 4090 bros won so hard. I'm sorry for ever making fun of you.
>>741624176>To whom?You're in a whole thread of the retards.
>>741624601This is false. 8GM is still enough if you only use the PC for work purposes and some lite gaming.32 is the sweet spot for gaming though.
>>741623010most popular games on the market are comp shooters that aren't played at high resolution, so yes people do play at 1080p and below nigga
>>741624836>example every npc actually talks via mic in whatever language you speakWhy do you need a video game overlay to use GPT voice mode?
>>741623010You're right, most people (consoles) are playing at 480p upscaled.
Well I can't play games I want at 4k native 60fps (minimum) with 8gb, at least not anything released in the last decade, so, no, I do need more.>no you just want moreno I need it, because less than that is living in the fucking 90s, I'm not on a 1080p monitor anymore, thanks.Thankfully AItards have gobbled up all the resources so everyone is going to be developing using like 3080s and shit as baseline for the next 5-10 years so my 4090 will crush it. I'm happy.
>>741622945T.indieschlopper
Literally all I need
>>741624429stocks are oligarch propaganda and you fell for the meme
>>741622945The quesiton boils down to how much you value photorealism and how much you think it improves a game. A good bulk of what I play is pixelated indie stuff despite having a mid-range card (16gb)
>>741622945I want the fastest chip with just 8gb vram desu but nobody sells that. Voice inference is a racket
>>741624834>5090 user defending 1080p gamingMy first post in this thread was "*you're" you stupid fuck. >I want to start a biggest dick competition against someone who obviously has better gear than I do.Fucking retard
>>741624917im not explaining my vision of upcoming virtual worlds to you bro read a book, or watch any scifi movie where this happens like ready player one with the museum butler, or VIs in mass effect. im not talking about fucking chatGPT or a function of corporate model goes here im talking about RUNNING IT locally, FOR development purposes
>>741622945RE Engine I can't max everything at 1080p with 8gb
>>741625149Yeah rapidly depreciating consumer products is where you should park your income, have fun working through your 70s
>>741625127what games do you play?
>>741624406Modern gaming is developed with upscaling in mind by default. That's why the Steam Machine has 8GB VRAM.
>>741624884>32 is the sweet spot for gaming though.32GB of ram is still on the overkill side of things. I can't think of a single game coming close to using 16GB. Then again, I don't use windows bloatware.
>>741625176thanks for proving my point fag
>>741625276Games generally will not go close to your ram limit because windows will not allow it. They'll use as much as they have available within a limit. If you have 16gb ram a game might use 9-10, if you have 32 a game might to go 16-20, etc etc.
>>741625307What point would that be?
>>741624601except it would ?I use a ryzen 1200 which was released in 2016 alongside 8GB dual channel in my second pc and it works fine. you literally don't know what you are talking about, 80 year old pensioners run W10 / 11 on 16 year old 4th gen intel processors like nothing lol.
>>741625276I'm talking more about investment for the future, because while 16GB is enough now, it might not be in the next few years for certain AAA games. Still, it's a ridiculously easy upgrade compared to the true challenge of having to upgrade a motherboard because a certain processor won't be compatible with it.I'm currently using a 6 y/o motherboard which I've hooked up to the strongest upgrades it will allow in terms of GPU and processor.
>>741622945You shouldn't be rewarding industry's inability to optimize. To them the easiest solution is "make customers buy GPUs with more VRAM".
>>741625387>To them the easiest solution is "make customers buy GPUs with more VRAM"I don't think that's really the case considering there's barely any availability for those. I think there's a big disconnect between hardware vendors and software developers
>>741625276have you played streets on escape rom tarkov?
>>741624601I have a notebook with 4GB of ram that runs win 11 well enough but only for very basic usage. On my 32GB rig certain things like the right click menu still aren't as smooth as they were even in Win 10. It's simply not a well optimized UI.
>>741622945Mafia the old country stutter Alan wake 2 has broken texturesStuck on low settings on some gamesIt's a bad idea and unfortunately I see all GPUs dropping to 8gb just to cope with ram shortages
>>741625272NTA but I'm on 8gb of vram and haven't encountered anything I can't play yet, including AAA. It's just that you won't get the best visual quality possible.
>>741625387you either buy the hardware or end up having to play indie slop for the rest of your lifethe industry would rather have a total crash than spend an extra year of development to optimize their games
>>741625456tarkov is literally cpu bound to shit
>>741623075Nobody posts screenshots in those threads anymore. Nobody here plays games.
Agentic ai...
>>741622945Good games don't need more than 8 gb vram
>>741625525a good chunk of people on steam are still using 4gb cards like the 1650, which at this point might beat the record for a card that simply refuses to die
>>741625525I get that but honestly, what games are you playing? Pretty sure we're playing different games dude.
>>741625646I used that up until last year. Having to play Space Marine 2 at 30 fps is what finally made me upgrade as it was no longer worth the hassle, but it lasted me a very long time since its release.
>>741625592yes but you're not gonna do well on 8gb regardless. 1080p is so last gen. Literally 360/ps3 era. You need more for better resolution.
>>741625647Well, right now I'm playing PoE 2. Previously I played Resident Evil Requiem. Did I have to turn down some settings? Sure. Did it hinder my actual experience? No, but it depends on how much visual quality is a dealbreaker for you. I essentially played at medium settings.
The real reason shillvidya doesn't give you more vram is because they want AI niggers to buy their enterprise solutions™Put vram on the ai cards and don't give any of precious memory to gamersImagine gollum and his usual MY PRECIOOOOUUUSSS line but nvidia does it all day everyday
>>741625745360/ps3 never did 1080p
>>741625824Nvidia offers better upscaling to balance this out. Although AMD is better bang for your buck.
8 is already to little, the 16 gig cards are the ones that really need to cope because they paid real money to be obsolete in 2 years.
>>741622945My 9 year old gpu has 11gb of VRAM, how the fuck is 8gb even a thing?
>>741625387>>741625443it's also important to remember that Nvidia and AMD are both pretty openly attempting to convert themselves into branches of the US governments military research and development interests. likewise, every other electronics company literally lacks the knowledge and experience to develop competitive graphics cards (other than intel who are basically now owned by Nvidia) so look forward to when they eventually stop making consumer cards altogether.
>>741622945Thank you AII can keep using my 3070 forever
>>741625791I guess we do play the same games, but the experience and level of immersion is totally different. I have a 1080p besides my 4k and I couldn't imagine playing games on that thing lol. It's garbage.
>>741625865Nvidia offers better crack cause that's what upscaling is. They make both users and devs addicted to their shit and slowly but surely get prices higher and you're paying dlss tax instead of hardware cost.
>>741623010retard, everyone is still in 1080p, 4k and 2k are a meme.
>>741625907VRAM alone won't make the 11GB card have better peformance than the 8GB though. There's some 6GB cards that mog 8GB models too.
>>741625908I think you're overstating Intel and Nvidia's relationship. If Nvidia and AMD were wiped off the face of the planet tomorrow, Intel and Qualcomm could probably keep up the supply of low and mid-range GPUs for a while, and after a few years we might even see advancements again
>>741622945New nvidia tech will make game use 80% less vram8GB will live foreverhttps://github.com/NVIDIA-RTX/RTXNTC
>>741625272Kingdom Come 1, Diablo 2 resurrected, oblivion remastered… honestly 99% of my games are 5+ years old, new games don’t interest me that much
>>741622945I have 16gb and it doesn't feel nearly enough for my sloppa interests
>>741622945Can't run my ai models without 24gb
>>741625929till it stops getting driver updates, which is like, next year lmao.>>741626034by everyone, do you mean everyone like you who's also a poorfag?
>upgraded to 64GB RAM>don't actually need itguys what do I do to not feel like I kinda wasted money?
>>741623010My new year's resolution? 1280x960
>>741626220Do more stuff
>>741626220Have 3 open chrome tabs.
>>741626220what made you think you needed 64gb when even 16gb is enough for every game (maybe can't just run 5 browsers in the background?
>>741626112I was about to say>inb4 only available on rtx 5000 series :^)But apparently it goes way earlier than that
>>741622945>All memes aside, you guys do realize you *literally* don't need more, right?t.Jesent.Lisa Sut.Sanjay t.Young-Hyun
>>741625485>Mafia the old country stutterThat's a CPU bottleneck, nothing to do with VRAM>Alan Wake 2 had broken texturesI didn't get any playing at 1440p on my 4060 with high textures. I played it some years after release though, maybe it got fixed with a patch at some point. The one game I remember getting broken textures on was Space Marine 2
>>741626098The ARC cards are kinda mid, but it's worth noting that Intel has come up with the second best upscaling in the market. In a few more years when they've learned their lessons from the current batch of cards, they could create something that rivals Nvidia/AMD, if consumer cards are still even a thing. But I think the next 10 years will be dedicated more to cloud streaming.
>>741626220Learn blender. Render high quality 3dcg porn. Make bucks on patreon.
>>741626309XeSS is good but FSR 4.1 is better.
>>741622945I can't generate porn in 6 seconds with 8 gb.
>>7416261862xxx is still getting updates and they start selling brand new 3060 card and 3050 laptop this yearhttps://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-has-returned-and-is-back-on-sale-in-china3xxx is not getting dropped anytime soonIn fact 4xxx might get dropped first as they aren't making them anymore
>>741626309>>741626352I think the bigger point is that they're all within a stone's throw of each other. Even apple apparently has an upscaling software that's comparable to DLSS in quality
>>741623705Because the 3060 12gb is an anomaly that came up during the crypto hype. Nowadays is AI which consume just as much memory as mining did. But since manufacturers caught up with the idea that you can starve the lower end off memory and force people to buy the high grade cards because of the memory need. There no 5060 12gb like the 3060, or a 16gb like the 4060. You can only get a 8+ card if you pay the retard titan premium.
>>741623010We reached the peak of GPU strength/performance balance years ago and then 4k was attainable, now modern games run too poorly for this to be reasonably achieved.
>you dont NEED moreand you dont NEED to be a faggot but here you are
>>741623171poorfag cope>>741623356anon, most of the planet is brown
8GB VRAM is the new 16GB DRAM.
>>741626032The end goal is to have software doing most of the heavy lifting rather than hardware as hardware costs more overall and as recent years have shown is more volatile to price changes down the supply chain. If Nvidia can reduce how much silicon they slap into each chip through various means and still produce something performant because they are using smaller but dedicated accelerators and having the software pick up the slack they are less burdened to any given foundry.TSMC mostly has nvidia (and many others) by the balls so rather than going back to the shitshow that was (iirc) pascal - the one made by samsung - if they can effectively have a foundry agnostic design and still be class leading then suddenly they have the leverage.
Is this the 30 vs 60 fps discussion again?Of course you don't need more. But why wouldn't you want the better option?
>>741626587except it is not better
>>741622945>>741623010im getting a 9800x3d 9070xt(16gb) and im ONLY going to be playing in 1080p enjoying 150-180fps max settingsi dont get why this isnt the norm
>>741626587>Is this the 30 vs 60 fps discussion again?it isn't because if a game doesn't utilise the vram, more vram doesn't make the game run betteri would've thought that'd be pretty obvious
>>741622945piss5 can use 12.5gb for gamespiss5 pro can use 13.7gb for gamesit's a shared pool of memory so there's no need to mirror shit unlike on pcsaardows can't fully dedicate entire vram pool to a game exclusively as demonstrated by valve writing a patch for linux proton where it's possible and quite dramaticall this means you want 12gb vram atleast on pc and that's also not counting for console equivalent settings which usually are not available on pc, only in a way of approximation of settings by eyeballing them8gb is dead, let it go
>>741626286I was planning on just having 32gb, but figured I may as well. Might have been a bit much even for future proofing.>>741626346As much as I like jacking off, I don't want to dedicate that much effort to porn.
>>741623010this is what gpu sellers want you to believe
>>741623010you are right, they are playing at 480p dynamic resolution hidden under DLSS
Why would anyone want high resolution textures? They are pure bloat for zero visible improvement.
>>741624253>calls anon a poor fag>has a 4080S solely for YouTube and pirated movies
>>741626649Maybe not run better, but bumping texture quality up should be a noticeable difference.I don't know why I even engage with this shit. Everyone should play how they want anyway, and shit on the devs 3 times daily for releasing unoptimized turds.
There's no future proofing in gpu anymoreNvidia will locked new dlss behind new gpu generation, same as amd with fsr
>>741626774future proofing ram is ill-advised since it's dependant on you not upgrading your cpu (and therefore motherboard) as new version of ddr is probably out in the market by then
>>741626828Except FSR 4.1 support is coming for older RDNA 3 and 2 cards because AMD freaked out over the backlash. Meaning that yes, the consumers can make a difference if vocal enough. Same with Nvidia.
>>741626828ive watched multiple videos on dlss, fsr and frame gen, you dont want it if you cant run the game above 60fps it doesnt give you performance its best use case is around 100fps believe it or not
>>741622945> you guys do realize you *literally* don't neACK
>>741626909Does that mean that my 7900 will get a fancy new fsr I just gonna turn off? Nice.
>>741622945I upgraded from a 4070ti 12gb to a 5080 16gb and the difference has been extremely noticeable. By the way, that is not a compliment to either graphics card but instead an insult to devs. 12gbs of VRAM should be enough to play any modern game at a reasonable FPS but I couldn't. At 1440p I would usually be well below my target of 140 FPS even with settings turned down (I prioritize framerate and resolution).
>>741626998Yes. More importantly though, it means that the card will continue to get day 1 support, which wasn't going to be the case, but people spoke against it and for once AMD listened. It's funny how many opportunities they've missed over the years which would help them have a better market share, but when Nvidia screws something up, AMD feels compelled to do the same historically. This is a rare exception.
>>741626934Framegen was always intended to be a frame smoothing technology, particularly for high refresh rate screens.
>>741627105It only took a year of people spamming "FSR4 when?" on every video AMD put out and AMD to leak their own source code for them to consider doing it.
I had to switch from an RTX 3070 to an RTX 3090 solely because of the VRAM.Basically, the RTX 3070 already had enough raw power to render 3D images in a reasonable amount of time for me. I didn't need any more speed. But 8GB of VRAM makes a lot of "professional" applications impossible to run.If it had at least 12GB of VRAM, things would already be a bit more manageable, and 16GB of VRAM would be ideal for an RTX 3070. But 8GB is literally NVIDIA's way of creating artificial GPU tiers and forcing people to upgrade to higher tiers.Of course, these days, with RAM prices what they are, cutting corners on RAM makes a lot more sense. But when they launched the RTX 20 series and then the 30 series, it was much more about preventing "entry-level" GPUs from replacing the more powerful ones for home or professional use.
>>741627106exactly that, hardware unboxed did a very good video on it, they basically explained it as a fancy ai version of motion blur its why ghosting exists and it feels like shit below 60fps and it removes 10-20fps depending on hardware behind the scene whilst implementing the fsr/dlss and or frame gen
>>741624246>Being poor is not a virtue. It's okay to want the best things in lifeBased retard.
I once ran out of vram on my 290x in 2016 or so and from that day forth vowed to never be a vramlet again.
>>741627196nta but im pretty sure amd had to make a special version of fsr4 for older cards its like nvidia making dlss for gtx cards
>>741622945>Whatever graphical upgrade you get by bumping textures from high to very high will literally not be noticeable by most users in a blind testI found your problem, you seem to think that a "blind test" involves people who are blind.
>>741626578I don't disagree that better software and going above the limitations set by the production process hitting standstill because 5nm process is already very expensive and going above it into 4nm or lower will start introducing quantum uncertainty because the electrons will be able to pop into wrong places soon. But if I am getting taxed for DLSS that I won't use while doing blender renders or playing older games then what do I fucking pay for? As much as I like gaming I am not doing only gaming on my hardware. The software improvements don't mean shit to me if they're confined to AAA slop as far gaming goes.Also regarding rendering, nvidia does offer some things there but optix demonising doesn't mean shit if I can't load the scene into vram because nvidia acts like total kikes when it comes to memory. I only get better rendering experience if I buy notoriously expensive card because otherwise I'm stuck rendering on CPU with optix denoising being a small bonus.
>>741627291what point do you think you're trying to make? rich people are far more likely to exercise self-control than poor retards seething on the internet lmaoyou being a poor slop is not "moderation" it's you having no impulse control
>>741627196If Nvidia can support 10+ y/o cards from the 700 and 900 series, as well as put new upscalers on 20xx series cards, AMD can do the same.The only reason why they stop doing that shit early is when they're trying to make money off newer cards.
>>741627291just eat big macs lol>>741627326Sounds like an AMD problem, not me a customer one. We know it could be done and AMD has entire software teams that can work on it so they need to unfuck their shit. They re-wrote their entire opengl driver stack at one point so they have done this sort of thing in the past.
>>741627105Well in direct competition Nvidia does support their older cards with new dlss models or am I wrong about that? So they just did the same. I think the card market is shit no matter what you get. 7900 xtx and 4090, that were the two half decent cards but both are still underperforming to what should have been. I blame dlss and fsr and raytracing but that's just me because I can't stand the ghosting and the lack of fidelity in motion but that might be autism.
>>741627426i personally think amd has a better approach to software making it open source alongside doing this for older cards, i doubt nvidia would do anything like this and didnt for gtx cards but i could be wrong i think both have their pros and cons
>>741627526They do support them, and that's why AMD can do it too.
>>741627389>rich people are far more likely to exercise self-controlHoly fuck you are actually retarded.
>>741627371Most players play the game and not hyper focus on texture like autistic child
>>741627597look up how many hours a week a typical ceo works and then compare it to how many hours you sit at the pczoomers are fucked in the head
>>741627543GTX cards are still supported in terms of driver updates, but you can't use DLSS on them as they're not raytracing cards. However, certain modern games (Doom: TDE for example) require a raytracing capable card by default, even if you won't be making use of the feature.
And you didn't have to be a faggot either op but here we are
>>741627704ive seen people put dlss on gtx cards somehow so it is possible wasnt that the argument against amd and they said it was a hardware issue then noticed it wasnt?
>>741627631>look up how many hours a week a typical ceo works reading emails and having your secretary write back isn't workingtaking 3 hours lunches and dinners with "clients" (friends) is not workingchatting on the phone with "clients" is not workingcommuting via private jets is not working
>>741627789With the AMD cards it's different, because those are raytracing capable cards. They have that technology built-in. GTX cards don't, so I'm not sure if DLSS would work well on those. They can still make use of XeSS and older versions of FSR though, so it's something.
>>741627631>CEO>Work
>>741627789the amd cards have the necessary hardware to run the newest FSR, amd originally didn't plan to include it because it's more work + they want to sell newer cards, not any other reason
>>741627704GTX cards are no longer supported with game driver updates, only security updates are providedRecent games aren't supporting 10xx anymore because nvidia won't make new gtx driver for their games
>>741627857>>741627921im picking up a 9070xt instead of a 5070ti due to the pricing and raw raster performance in gaming, fsr4 will be enough for me for years to come even though i wiill hardly ever use it during what to the hardware, also with it being open source and the community so vocal amd will support cards for years, i noticed scaremongering quite often about amd but when i look into the claims and unfounded>>741628051this im upgrading from the 10 series
>>741622945You can't run decently size LLMs on 8gb, so I indeed need more, way moer. I'd prefer 256gb VRAM, but the industry is gatekeeping to make as many shekels as possible, before hundreds of gb of VRAM become mainstream.Look at NVIDIA drip feeding the goy the cum, I mean the VRAM. 5xxx series with 8gb vram, what a fucking joke.
>>741628051>Recent games aren't supporting 10xx anymore because nvidia won't make new gtx driver for their gamesForza horizon 6 worked just fine on 1080ti.
>>741628194you dont need nvidia's latest drivers to run games
>>741622945that's cope
>>741627627>t. blind "DLSS looks better than native" retard
>>741628194If an update make game crash on gtx cards, no one will fix it
>>741628051No product from 10 years ago is getting updates anon
>>741628336Off the top of my head, printers get them.
>>741628336minecraft is still getting updates
>>741628326That has never happened.
>>741627291The modern world has managed to screw up all these virtues.The classical right still had the correct concept of prudence, but today's neoconservative right considers it prudent to commit genocide against any people the Zionist masters point their fingers at.Justice has become a huge joke in the hands of certain left-wing radicals, since they merely need to label a group as oppressors to justify every kind of injustice against them.Fortitude is basically misogyny...And demanding temperance from people has become a racist thing to do...
>>741627631I am not the one who needs to look up things, retard who doesn't understand what "slop" is, or know what virtues are.You are 100% a thirdworlder with sub 90IQ.
>DLSS performance >Framegen X5>Sharpening 90%>Monitor 720p>Target 4k*Pours cow urine over my body for luck* Very good game time saars
this legendary card had 11GB VRAM in early 2017
>>741627631>ceos >workLmao
>>741626158>honestly 99% of my games are 5+ years oldThe key to happiness is to always be lagging behind a bit when it comes to releases.
>>741623075I resize them to 1080p because 2k screenshots are over the limit on 4chan kek
>>741628376[x] DoubtHow are you going to sell new printers if you keep supporting the old models?
>>741628809bullshit you can easily post 4k 5k and even 8k screenshots within 4mb limit
8gb is fine if you are on linux
>>741628902It's logical that driver for a printer is less work than one for a video card, but they're a thing nonetheless, as I'm using a 10+ year old printer and don't plan on stopping anytime soon.
>>741628902They sell ink cartridge
>>741628336cards from 2016 still get fixes and optimizations on linux
>>741628904Depends what quality the software you use to capture saves them as. Steam for example has horrendous quality and 4k is barely above 1mb. Not gonna save lower quality screenshots just to post them on 4chan
>>741629209sounds like a skill issue but OK
>>741622945With how poorly programmed games have been in the last 5y (thanks to jeets) you need more than 16Gb and up
>>741624246Being a consumerist is not a virtue either.
>>741628461Recent windows 11 update broke all vulkan apps on nvidia 9xx gpu and olderNo one knows this because most of them are still on windows 10
>>741629240is this the old DX11 build because it looks pretty bad
>>741628904IDK I use the nvidia screenshot tool and the 2k screens are just too big
>>741629298The screenshot was taken like 10 years ago on a SLI GTX 1080.
>>741629240Customising your settings so you get the best image quality possible is the opposite of a skill issue, this sounds like projection
>>741625745>1080p is so last gen. Literally 360/ps3 era.Kek not true at all.
>>741628956Doesn't work with nGreedia.
>>741626220Make a ramdisk and put some disk writing in there. Makes you PC faster and saves the SSD wear.
>>741629349The PS3 launch title ridge racer 7 runs at 1080p60.
>>741629617no it didn't. It ran 540p 60. I moved from a Dreamcast and the first thing I noticed about the PS5 was it was lower resolution. Especially RR7
>>741626909>Meaning that yes, the consumers can make a difference if vocal enough. Same with Nvidia.Another example of that was the recent feature (memory encryption iirc) that AMD removed from Ryzen 9000 CPUs. People were barking over after AMD removed it silently, and now it's coming back in a BIOS update.
Poorfag cope the thread
https://www.techpowerup.com/348003/nvidias-neural-texture-compression-cuts-vram-use-from-6-5-gb-to-970-mbCan't wait for the 8GB is not enough retards to kneel down when games only need 1 GB
>>741630116SAR THE AI SAR
We had 8GB GPUs a decade ago, how did it all go so wrong.
>>741625276Maria the old country
>>741624406Turn off gaytracing and don't play at 4K like a retard and you won't need the upscale meme.
>>741629810It does run at 1080p60. I don't know why you lie.>https://www.digitalfoundry.net/articles/digitalfoundry-rr7-the-1080p-dream-blog-entry
>>74163036712 years ago in 2014 there was a r9 290x with 8gb, it was a special model but still 12 years later cards still ship with 8gb of vramif you went back 12 years from 2014 you'd get a gpu with like 64mb of vram
I need to see 6GB 6060s and Nvidia justifying it lol
>>741630941Nvidia's 2026's 8GB is like 16GB in 2014 though
>>741630941Well the vapor-x 290x was mighty expensive (still not as much as a titan lmao) but even still when polaris had 8gb at a price point for mere mortals and that was 2016.
>>741622945We found him guysThe TURBOPOOR
>>741622945you dont even need 8 you can get away with like 4 to 6shit right now im stuck on a 2gb 750m and its fucking great lmao
>>741623010yeah we all downgraded to 720p and 480p
I hope many anons here only eat gruel. After all, you don't actually *need* anything else to eat.
>>741623171lol noob buying a 4060 instead of 1080 ti
OH SHIT OH FUCK
>>741626186
>>741624246It actually is a virtue, explicitly stated so in the Gospel of Luke.>>741622945Nah, 16 GB is necessary now. People were saying the same thing about '8gb of normal ram being enough' 10-13 years ago.
>>741631527Nice, but a year late. I'll wait for comparison between 4.1 INT8 and 4.0.2 INT8.
>>7416313201366x768 more like.
>>7416229458gb is mega overkill in the grand scheme of things, gran turismo 3 already looked lifelike with 4mb of vram, requirements will go up no matter what you want or do, you're fucked goy
>>741626304>That's a CPU bottleneck, nothing to do with VRAMNTA but I was absolutely not CPU bottlenecked in The Old Country (5800X3D) yet the VRAM usage was noticeably high and pushing the limits of my 12GB card (6700XT) more often than comfortable. Unreal TSR is especially a VRAM hog, that is essentially unusable on 12GB
>>741622945Kill yourself, this lie is why I'm cucked with a poorfag machine. Genuinely end your life subhuman, people like you conveniently ignore how modern software developers are subhman retards
>>741624406None of this would happen if Nvidia didnt demonize MSAA.And when valve has proven how poweful and realistic a optimized MSAA can be with alyx, NJUDEA rushed to delete all of the msaa documentation and with the help of guess what? EPIC because it exposed all of their arguments as fallacies, bullshit and marketing manipulation.Nvidia is everything 3dfx became before its downfall, and if Jensen isnt smart, Intel is going to eat them alive with AMD watching from afar, mainly with the new cpu bullshit.
>>741632034Of course there is no difference between a 640x480 interlaced image and a 1920x1080p one.
>>741631349"Boring" food that isn't processed is the best actually. They just keep making fancy things and flavours. and then try to convince you that their thing is better even though it is less healthy and less food.
>>741632454The only thing that matters is how many Nvidia only features can become critical to unreal engine.
>>741623986watching you shartrannies trying to disprove op and failing is funny though
>>741626220You actually need it for modern web browsers. I have 64GB ram and I often come short because I also stream games locally from PC to other devices using moonlight and another app called Duo that "clones" my PC
>>741632475Which is why vegetarians have it right.
>>741622945I told everyone on /vDon't get a 3060 they did .I told everyone don't get a 3070 they did,4060,5060 and they never learn.
>>741632563Ever faggotry or faggot named Duo reeks of faggotry and fail.
>>741632624You told everyone to not play video games but then they did om
>>741622945>>741623010>It's 2026 people don't play in 1080p anymoreThat's in fact exactly what they play in.
>>741622945even at 1080p you can still easily go past 8gb vram with most modern games. unless you want all of your games looking like n64 roms 12GB should be the new minimum, even for 1080p gaming.
>>741632768>You told everyone to not play video gamesNope just told them not to buy bad hardware
>>741632624Yeah. It's absolutely retarded to go low end with nvidia. Just buy AMD if you are poorCurrently only the 4090 and 5090 are worth it
>>741632624If you got a 3070 for around 300 you unironically won though what are you on about
>>7416326243060 is still the top dog at steam, only recently that is losing the spotlight to 7600, 6600 and the combo of 5070 and 9070xt
>>741632919Good thing to tell people to avoid AMD.
>>741632958why the fuck would i need that firestarter shit? i am not working with aislop or autodesk blender shit, and your post reeks of marketing shilling.
>>741632958Even sloppiest modern audience AAAA game dont need more than 16 gb vram lol
>>741632890if you are playing modern unoptimized unreal slop? yes, even idtech6 doom is more optimized than all unreal 5 slopshit released over the last 7 years, and i am not counting indiana jones, machine games tranny swede devs mamaged to do the impossible and bloat and unoptimize the engine with ue5 jeet code in it.
>>741633135Even if you're not doing AI slop it's just true. You can't run any single game at native res, without upscaling or framegen (at decent triple digit framerates) if you don't have at least a 4090 or 5090 due to how modern devs are retarded and can't optimize on the software end.I'm not happy about giving money to goyvidia btw and would rather kill myself than shill for them. But I personally need the peace of mind of knowing that if I boot a game I did the most I could on my end as a consoomer not to be bottlenecked. I don't want to have to smear the screen with vaseline or rely on fake frames, and my only way to do that is sell a part of my soul buying their scam hardware. I am aware that I am part of the problem but I will not suffer playing games, especially action games, below 120 fps anymore. AAA or indie
>>741632524they ran out of gimmick bullshit and are trying cpus now, just like 3dfx planned to do and fail.
>>741628809>>741628904>>741629209>>741629319>what are image formatsholy summer in here
>>741622945Let's just say any game that can't be run on 8GB card won't sell enough to make their money back
>>741633436this post reeks of linus and /r/pcmastergaming bullshit and market shilling talk.
>>741622945im thinking of upgrading my 4060rtx since 8gb is literally not enough for me anymore for 1440p. thinking of getting a 5060 ti or 5070. but only if there is a good deal. might also switch to amd since im playing on lunix anyways.
>>7416336765060ti is extremely shit value and 5070 loses on performance, efficiency and vram to a 9070
>>7416231714k is actually pointless and a meme, 2k is the holy grail.
>>741633646stop noticing things
>>741622945Yeah. I have a job, I can afford to spend a bit of money on a new GPU once in a while. No need for poorfag cope like that, playing uncslop or indie slop.
>>741633798The 5070 doesn't lose shit. FSR4 is still blurry vaseline vision whereas dlss 4.5 is better than native - if you equalised image quality a 5070 would be about 50% faster as you could run dlss on balanced or sometimes even performance. Then ontop of that you have a number of recent games only support framegen on nvidia cards. Plus you have the fact that a 9070 STILL cannot ray trace well and absolutely cannot into path tracing. We also have the fact the 9070 cannot into emulation and opengl.Anything AI is absolutely a no-go on the 9070 as well.
>>741628809How big?
>>741634039>saar please redeem DEE ELL ESS ESS AYE EYE
>>741633580Pretty much. If you can't see which way the wind is blowing idk what to tell you. Optimization is going to be the name of the game moving forward
>>741622945I'm poor and from a third world country getting by on a g850 only playing indie slop or games from 2014 and backwardsYou guys are all spoiled motherfuckers. Fuck you all
>>741623010There is no noticeable difference between 1080p and 4K, anyone who says there is is just trying to justify a bad purchase.
>>741628809Based idiot.
>>741622945The state of the modern videogames industry.>You don't need more than 8gb of Ram. Who cares if raytracing is mandatory! You can enjoy a game just fine in 1080p. Optimization is a meme from whiney piss babies >It is absolutely necessary to have a social media manager, a community manager monitoring game chat, pay multiple consultant firms to re write the game to appeal to a modern audience, pay denuvo for anticheat even if hypervisor cracks the game no matter what, buy marketing campaigns in an age of ad blockers, and make it live service.Literally offering less, charging you more and blaming you for not liking it while telling you it's not made for you then blaming you for not buying it
>>741634039Holy mother of paid marketing post Batman!
>>741634171Schizophrenia
>>741622945I use an iGPU and don't "need" more. It would be nice to run Robocop Rogue City in higher res but it has stupid ass Unreal Engine shimmering at any level of detail anyway.Of course I use a 8600G which is one of the most powerful iGPUs available.
>>741634214>>741634117Here comes the neanderthal advanced marketers.
>>741623171>>741626034>>741628809>>741633807>2k is a meme>use 1080p insteadRetards. 2k IS 1080p / Full HD. QHD is NOT 2k.
>>741622945We don't but devs can't make it for these daysInstead of organizing their trunk they just buy 2 cars
>>741634295it took one anon talking about njudea and valve outschooling them and ue5, that pcmr reddit and ltt forums showed up.
>>741634295>userbenchmark lingoGREETING SAARREDEEM NVINDIA POWER OF AI!!!
>>741634417this is why the layoffs and inevitable crash are necessary
>>741634146youll end up like me get a new pc and then still only play old games so it was all for nothing
>>741634640
>>741634146Based teller
>>741634839>yuu arr paki saar
>>741634753bitch I need a 7900xtx to play need for speed hot pursuit 2 at 4k.
>>741634039I have a 5070ti and I can tell you dlss 4.5 isn't perfect. Preset M sucks balls with shimmering and vegetation, preset L costs a lot of performance while fixing some issues compared to M. Both suck ass with raytracing (not path tracing with RR as that uses its own preset) FSR4 running on amd gpus (not the INT8 goychew version) looks very similar to DLSS4 (preset J,K) Opengl issues have been addressed years ago on windows with amd cards. 9070 is a clear winner over 5070 as 5070 is brutally vram cucked whenever you're going to try path tracing as that's the only thing it's better at. Regular RT will be fine on a 9070 and it has 16gb of vram.AIslopping is doable on a 9070 btw but you wouldn't know that because you just talk out of your ass.
>>741634753>NTAi rather play old games and be spiritually happy than give a single dime to a rotten industry like this.and this seems to be working as of recently seeing how pedowood and gaming is burning and its on a all low profit record.
>>741634839why would anyone who's not a jeet accuse others of being a paki? nobody cares about your petty third world rivalry outside of your shitholes
>>741635172Because it is how the retards expose themselves.It never fails.
>>741623247>>741624253>>741626538>>741631374>>741633807>>741634410Cope more. Not my fault you are just a bunch of brainlet ships. Keep consooooming and be a good goy, while I make top dollah with a sub 300$ card, play all the games I want (there is literally no game I can't play at 60fps 1080p on the market right now) and have so much money I can buy virtually anything.
>>741635443sour grapes poverty anon
>>741635443you lost any credibility you had when you mentioned locking fps to 60 with framegen and "occasional RT feature"8gb e-waste runs out of vram even at 1080p when doing that
>>741635471I have more than 3k games only on Steam
>>741625387>You shouldn't be rewarding industry's inability to optimize. To them the easiest solution is "make customers buy GPUs with more VRAM".The correct opinion on the matter.
>>741635524Are you dumb?
>>741635698so you're either a bot or a larping jeet inceloid, got itfuck off
>>741635524Running the most demanding games in 60 fps doesn't matter when almost every other game runs in 144+, especially if you dont play the newest triple A.
>>741635781Going above 60fps is retarded anyway as it is pure placebo territory.
I actually need 32gb vram so I can ERP with lolis using local models
>>741635950is this the new "human eye cant see past 30fps"
>>741635524nigga all your posts reeks of marketing shilling, linus and pcmr reddit
>>741622945I play infinity nikki on max so I need it
>>741636002that was my only post in this thread "nigga"fuck outta here you fat incel clown
>>741635950>say something reasonable that may not align with your opinion>WELL HUH YOU MUST BE FROM THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE SPECTRUM! (there is no reasonable middleground in my head!)
>>741622945Yeah, 10 years ago.I'm playing 1080p max settings and there is nothing that goes bellow 10gb, some goes above 12gb.Thank god I got the 9070XT for cheap. (499)
GayyAMD just put out FSR4 for 7000 series cards.
>>741636276uhhhh based?
>>741622945You need 16 to keep up with console
>>741636254>I'm playing 1080p max settings and there is nothing that goes bellow 10gb, some goes above 12gbThe game allocates VRAM use based on how much is available, doesn't mean it's actively using all of that. Barely any games will go over 8GB in 1080p, when they do it's because of Path Tracing maxed out
>>741636508>You need to be 16 to keep up with consolesftfy
>>741636276>a feature nobody uses on cards nobody owns
>>741632459about 50mb of vram on an old game
>>741629209>>741628809Okay so you admit you are a retard who resizes screenshots instead of just saving them as jpg.Good talk.
>>741629209You can choose to save uncompressed screenshots on steam you dumb fuck. The compressed ones are just for the gallery that you may upload to steam.
>>741636582several 3rd worlders who bought the cheap 7600XT to play genshin will finally be able to run RE9 with decent visuals.
>>741636508You mean the consoles that all render at sub 1080p resolutions?
>>741635761Imbreed nigger, I never said that I lock at 60fps when using frame gen, you can't do that and have a smooth experience. Only Loseless scaling chan achieve that in a consistent way, but I don't like the "smudge" image compared to Nvidia solution.Keep crying anon, I can decide how to play my games and use every trick in the boon to achieve my graphical standards.I repeat, I work in 3D, I also MAKE VIDEOGAME ASSETS, you are being lied to. Cope more.
I have a 5070ti 16gb, and even then I can feel it struggles with old games like Control, and relatively new games like Alan Wake 2 at 2k with no DLSS. I fear Control Resonant will show an even greater drop.
>>741636747>Far Cryoh no, anyway
>>741636508Series S has 8 gb though and it can play every game
>>741636747You can play games without ultraburger settings.
>>741637205>it doesn't count!lmao there it is, the excuse I knew was coming
>>741637239>just don't use the setting that improves image quality and has no performance impactJust play on low then anon.
Now I see why mobile gaming is the way to go.
>>741637317>require more powerful hardware>not performance impact
>>741622945Memory is the most limiting factor in games. Yes you need more, desperately. You're just playing garbage on 1080 and cope because you're too poor to get a better card.
>>741636072>incelShartrannies everyone
>>741637035>imbreed niggerbrownoid detected8gb cuckcel spottedopinion disregardedsubhuman trash
>>741637540A high texture setting doesn't lower framerate like other settings do. That's the difference. Having the right amount of VRAM appropriate to the card is what's key. Buying something like a 5060 Ti 8GB is just gimping yourself.
>>741637117stop playing trash
>>741637881>validating bloated textures Yeah, no.
>2026>still having a debate whether 8gb is enough or notyou've had a decade to buy a gpu with more than 8gb
>>741637253I'm not saying it doesn't count, I'm saying spending twice as much on your device in order to access a Far Cry texture pack is not a decision I would make
>>741636276Only after Gaben reached them with the manual of get shit done.If the update benchmarks for the 7000 series puts the 40x and 50x to shame, their update for the 6000 series will be even more optimized.AMD knows that that there wont be new gpu's til 2029 due to the retarded black hole the industry is at the moment, and njudea is trying cpus in hopes to survive the bomb they made thanks to EPIC.I expect nvidia moving mountains to undo the performance gimps they shoved all the way til 20xx series because shit wont get better any time soon.If you own a old gpu right now, make sure that the sob is cleaned up all times and that no power outage or sneaky update kills it.Nvidia pulled the trigger on the 10xx and all are dying like flies since 2026 began with pin failures that not even the oven or a new pin fixes it.
>>741638375the funniest part about 11/12 is that 8gblets can't even match console texture settings anymore
>>741637802you lost sharteen
>>741638569To be fair, ayyMD have also forced the HDMI forum's hand with Valve's help too.
>>741637881VRAM isn't free, otherwise every card would have 9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 GB VRAM. It's hardware neck.
>>741638000NOchecked
I was informed very clearly that you'd never need more than 2gb vram at 1080p and now the same anons are telling me 8gb is required!? How much unoptimised bloat do you tolerate!?!?
>>741638094 Enjoy your blurry streamed in textures in protest I guess.
>>741638773Ram for both sides is fucked too, so no new gpus for the time being, and AMD as NVIDIA is increasing the prices for the 9070+ as 5070+ worldwide because they kiked even themselves and the prime mats are running low, and becoming more expensive.
>>741638773Of course not but the point is to not bottleneck the capabilities of your card due to lack of VRAM.
>>741622945if something doesn’t run well on 8gb its unoptimized dogshit (mh:wilds)
>>741639162The point is some people want higher fps at the cost of VRAM or prefer Nvidia features over AMD.
>>741639162There is no real world scenario where you will run out of shader throughput after your framebuffers gets full - it simply does not happen.
>>741622945Some games wont even let you launch them with less than 10gb these days. Looking at you nu-nu-nudoom
>>741639291https://youtu.be/cFlaymC-vZI?t=1060You just run into texture streaming resulting in blurry textures.
>>741639230EPIC and Nvidia lied to an entire generation and industry over a gimmick
>>741639527>posts known AMD shillYeah good one.
>>741622945delusionnvke
>>741638375You're just poor.
>>741639442jeet kun, Dork ages wad made to run on a 2060 as low settings.Idtech6 under id isnt a bloated unoptimized slop like UE5, ubishit, oblivion remastered and Indiana Jones.
>>741639605This has nothing to do with AMD or Nvidia you dumb fanboy
>>741622945I replaced my 3080 10gb last year due to vram so yes I need more.you do have a 1440p/4k oled screen right? I hope you're not on a shitty ips/tn/va panel in 2026. well I guess you can experience hdr in 2040.
What is the deal with shartrannies in this thread besides moving goalposts, ur poor baits, fanboy posting, and posting flamewars like a bunch of fucking bombay new dheli faggots?
>>741639725Yeah, weird. I can run every other game at 1440p by offloading to main RAM but this one just refuses to run; the game just pops up with an ingame message about not having enough VRAM.
>>741639528The gimmick of better image clarity yeah.
>>741622945I agree but I would say 12GB of VRAM, you can still buy an old Titan Xp for $200 and it will run everything just as good as a 4070. There is no reason to buy new cards unless you really need to cum over GayTracing or fake frames.
>>741640785>titan xp running anything just as good as a 4070maybe in your dreams
>>741640547you could achieve that by turning off image filtering
>>741640903For gaming? Yes.There is other things the newer cards do significantly better such as rendering videos or whatever but when it comes to playing video games we are talking single digit differences all else being equal. Although I will say the 3070 is a much fairer comparison.
>>741641343>For gaming? Yes.completely delusional not even including the fact that you'd pay $200 for an EOL gpu lmao>3070 is a much fairer comparisontry 3060, as that gpu is faster than a 1080tiuntil you need mesh shaders then 1080ti diestitan xp is in the same ballpark
>>741641343no dlss and your card is useless in half of the games and it will make 4x more watts for same fps
>>7416230102K and 4K are redundant when shit needs to be upscaled either way and framegen on if you want consistent 60fps.
>>741641629upscaled to 4k looks better than whatever resolution less than 4k you're using
>>741641872lolno
>>741642359coping retard.
What's the ideal GPU/Graphic card for me if I hate the Steam Machine, hate Gabe Newell, hate the Steam Deck, hate the Steam Controller, hate Valve, hate playing with a mouse and keyboard, and hate all PC gaming in general?
>>741642449>less pixels look better than more pixels!You shouldn't be calling others retards.
>>741642551Xiaomi has the perfect device for you.
>>741642691Which Xiaomi model would be the most ideal to give me the image of a gamer who hates Gabe Newell and hates all PC gaming in general?
>>741642610top is 720p DLSS ultra performance upscaled to 4kbottom is native 1080pyou're a retard
>>741625824This. I tried doing a basic CNN locally and memory blew up while compute utility is about 10 percent. The bottleneck is always memory and they know what they are doing by having their high end cards have piss poor memory
>>741641542>completely delusional not even including the fact that you'd pay $200 for an EOL gpu lmaoWorks on my machine. You seriously must be retarded if you are worried about "EOL" they are electronics, they don't break unless someone does something very stupid. I'm more worried about my PCIe slot failing before this card.>>741641574It is power hungry less than some modern ones but it's still drawing the same power as the card it replaced (980ti) less in most cases as it doesn't need to work nearly as hard as that card did.
>>741622945shhh, you're upsetting the jews
>>741633676If those two are the only options then clearly 5070.
>>741643128Are you trying to make his point?
>>741643128not only you're dumb you're also blindbad combination!
I'm chilling with 20GB of VRAM, sadly almost no games are able to use that much. No I don't play skyrim.
>>741644108>>741644143oh shit, forgot the third worlders don't have high resolution monitors to see the difference, my bad, keep coping retard
>>741644207There is always fallout 4!
>>741645294Thank you Todd, but I'll pass.
>>741645458It wasn't a suggestion anon.
>>741645574Please, no.
>>741644207Cyberpunk with mods was hitting that for me.
>>741647580High texture pack + RT/PT?Because base game has very shitty textures, it had to run with 8GB VRAM after all.
>this template thread>again>the conclusion: it's just a cope for not being able to afford things>again
>>741622945Nigger, we live in the UE5 era. 36gb vRAM isn't enough to play a 2D sidescroller
>>741647776Damn epic megagames and its jill of the jungle slop.
>>741647768These threads are always made by falseflaggers who then continue with "yeah bro you don't need more than 60 fps". So WHO do you think is the one coping?... yeah -.-
>>741647729Pretty much. That game is such a mix. It can look amazing at times and terrible at other points.
>>741623010I do actually. Because it gives me delicious 60+ FPS without relying on DLSS-slop.
>>741645012Oh no I can see the difference, in no world does the top image look better than the bottom.
>>741648375NTA but can you explain why? Bottom looks like FXAA. Not even the jaggy no AA that most native purists prefer.
>>741643128>aislop hallucinating details where they aren't actually present is GOOD ok>look at this still where all the ghosting and other issues are conveniently not present
>>741635990The human eye can't see more than 8 GB of VRAM.
>>741648838While the textures look slightly better the big difference for me is in the cloth, with the upscaling at such fine detail it ends up looking worse than just the regular native rendering.Honestly I care more about the burring effect that it causes than these still images. I can forgive and ignore most other things but that shit alone makes it not viable for me.
>>741648375in no world does the bottom image look better than the top, also the bottom is 720ppoorfags are blind too , who knew?
Spent $1800 on hardware yesterday. Feels like dumb, especially knowing that I don't play games that warrant it. 3700x and 6650xt felt like too little since the only monitor I have is 4K. I don't feel like buying a smaller monitor just to have my 2020 computer work. I wonder if there is a market for a perfectly working 3700x, 32GB DDR4, 6650xt, AM4 motherboard, 650W PSU or if I should buy a case and have a second computer.
>>741639442Lol played it on a 4060 no problem
>>741623010not just that but pretty much anything these days will require more than 8gb, unless you like waiting ages >t.blender user
>1660S>still play new games on low with FSR>games still chug alongthe question is why would you CHOOSE to have games just *chug along* -on purchase-? 8gb is going to struggle -on purchase- if you put the settings on 'high' in some games. GREAT!!!
>>741655370It is the difference between a poorfag and a tasty boy. Toasty knows the grass can be greener and doesn't complain. The poorfag sees greener grass and violently shitposts about how things cannot be better, their setup is optimum for gaming and anyone buying better parts is a retarded consoomer who should kill themselves./v/ does not have any toasty boys left.
>>741622945My 3070ti is still going strong.
>>741657048>3070Ti The most cucked GPU of that generation.
