>shuts down the most annoying character in the franchisegodot peaked here
idk, there's definitely worse than a 18 yo girl with a whip and who says "fool" a lot in AA. Still based though
Both Godot and Franziska are garbage characters. Takumi is a hack
>>741623150was this a The Rock reference?
>>741624103Definitely
>>741623150>I'm taking over as prosecutor.On whose authority exactly?
>>741624391The prosecution office of Japanifornia, essentially the presidential office of the nation.
>>741623150Redditoids REALLY dislike Godot for this kek
>>741623150kino
>>741624512all while worshipping franshitka for injuring peoplebunch of faggots smfh
At the end of the day, at least Fransicka never knowingly killed someone, even knowing full well that the spirit could have been possessing the body of a child instead of who he actually stabbed. He admitted it as such.
There's something magical about the original trilogy. Every time I replay it, I can just feel the SOVL.The rest of the series doesn't do this, closest equivalent would be Ghost Trick, but still not the same. You can tell somebody really wanted to write the episodes included in the first three games.
>AA threadI've been replaying the games recently. One thing I noticed, why is the judge such a dick? He always shows way more respect to the prosecutor
>>741624951Cuz Phoenix is a bitch ass niggaMia puts the Judge in his place multiple times
>>741623150Unfathomably basedHow wet do you think Franziska was when he said that?Also>zero ass
>>741624951cause the whole series revolves around guilty until proven innocent
>>741624824Godot was such an idiot, and the game wants you to feel sad for him.What a waste of a good design and a good soundtrack
>>741624951Because the whole series is a jab at Japan's justice system
>>741624824>Well yeah she may have physically assaulted a man until he collapsed on the floor but at least she didn't kill anyone
>>741625042Somewhat true, but prosecutors still have more prestige.>>741625219So yeah this.>>741625402Fake and gay rumor. Takumi based it off watching fictional courtroom drama.He went to watch some IRL trials but decided against actually making it look like that.
>>741625303Second this. It's really hard to reconcile his "cool" prosecutor persona and how retarded he is and acted in the last case. Honestly I only really cared about Mia
>>741625575um, yes?
>>741625575Lol I just replayed 2-2 yesterday.I gotta disagree with Mia on Franny, actually she has a good idea of a "perfect case" and allowed Phoenix to continue instead of trying very hard to shut him down and take the win, she could have done that multiple times.
The entirety of 3-5 is something I don't think they'll ever be able to replicate. They had a similar idea in Spirit of Justice which was still admittedly fun, but goddamn 3-5 is too good. Even the court music that accompanied the finale felt perfect.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TePxy7Hc3M
>>7416264233-5 only works because of the massive setup. It's designed specifically as "the final case of PW trilogy".And even then it does suffer from some questionable case logic, but makes up in sheer "aura", if you allow me the zoomerism.
Speaking of JFA, in retrospect psyche-locks are a bit of a dumb idea.They really do work in a very arbitrary fashion, especially funny if the character lies even after you unlock them.
>>741623150>peakedYa, its the last chapter of the game. Thats how character arcs work.
>>741628881psycholocks only existed for the twist in 2-4
>>741631463I mean lorewise, since the magatama basically only works when it's convenient.Gameplay-wise, I like them because they spice up progression a bit and let you do more mystery-solving outside the courtroom. It beats having the trials try to cover all the mysteries at once, like imagine if we really had to cross-examine Pearls about her playing with a ball.2-4 having its biggest twist happen outside of the court because of psyche-locks is also cool, even if they are more of a narrative device like Edgeworth's chess shenanigans, except those are metaphorical so they don't really raise any questions about how the fuck does the magatama even work.
>>741631882I'm not a fan of it cause it undermines wright's trust on his clients, of course he trusts them when he's carrying a lie detector in his pocketIt only backfired with matt engarde and the whole fiasco didn't do anything to him since he's back to trusting strangers immediately after anyway
>>741624827fujoshit focus groups
>>741632372>I'm not a fan of it cause it undermines wright's trust on his clientsThat too. Yeah Takumi didn't think that one through in a lore/narrative sense, should have just gone with saying that Phoenix developed a sharper intuition due to his experience, and now can tell when somebody is bullshitting him at least half of the time.
>>741632817>and now can tell when somebody is bullshitting him at least half of the timeI felt like this was kind of the case already considering he's the king of bullshitting.
>>741624951this is how it works in real life btw
>>741632896Strangely enough, Phoenix can bullshit pretty well but he's also gullible.
>>741624103IF YA SUHMELLLLLLWHAT THE POT IS BREWING >>741624824SHUT YOUR JABRONI ASS UP"GODOT" DOES NOT NEED THINGS SUCH AS REASON OR UNDERSTANDING TO ACT, GODOT SIMPLY DOES AS HE PLEASES MEANWHILE YOU SIT HERE AND CRY >WAHHHHH, I HATE GODOT BECAUSE HE'S EVERYTHING I'M NOT >HE'S TALL>HE'S STYLISH >HE MAKES ALL THE FEMALE WITNESSES YEARN FOR HIS BIG, BLACK... COFFEE POT, SETTLE DOWN LADIES >AND HE GETS TO COMMIT FRAUD OH THE DAILY WHILE I'M JUST A LITTLE BITCH!KNOW YOUR ROLEAND SHUT YOUR MOUTH! IF YA SMELLLLLLLLLLALALALALAOW! WHAT THE POTIS BREWING!
Oh no I have to replay 2-3 now...
>>741632779No wonder so much went to shit poor phoenix
>>741623150God I can't believe Mia wanted to fuck this guy
>>741636642It was either him or Grossberg.Maybe she is too much of a good girl to seduce the young Edgeworth instead.
>>741625102sex
Choose
>>741636642You probably browse r/aceattorney
>>741637326What happened to Violetta, Lisa, not-Misty, Adrian, Desiree and their legs?
>>741637326Dahlia my beloved
>>741637326
>>741623150For the retarded bootlickers who said a new game would come out after the ninety thousand rereleases, where's the next game?
I am so desperate for new Ace Attorney I played this fucking thing. Are there any good AA-like indies? I already played and enjoyed of the Devil but I was wondering if there were others like it
>>741640987Go play Hero of Law, it's a Zelda OoT romhack
>>741637404capcom artists were too lazy to make full body art of every character
>>741641065Already played that one too, but I think I didn't do one of the bonus cases so thanks for reminding me of it
>>741640987There's Tyrion Cuthbert, but I imagine you've played that already.I enjoyed both Contempt of Court and Conflict of Interest, fangames of Phoenix Wright.
>>741624512they hate him because he's hispanic in the localization, if edgeworth said this nobody on reddit would care.
>>741637326>80% of these women are evil or incredibly fucking annoying.>19% won't bang me either>1% is too busy getting Apollo to "polish her toilet" while phoenix tries to remember something he forgot to do. Most realistic part of the series, aside from the 100% accurate recreation of how court works.
>>741640987>I'M SO DESPERATE FOR MORE VISUAL NOVELSNIGGA READ A FUCKING BOOK
>>741637326zamn, autistic girls have hips like that??
>>741642407It's so the baby can get out because they're going to be too busy installing 300gb of fetish mods into the sims to push. That baby's gotta walk out.
>>741637326Which game/case is this girl from? I don't recognize her
>>741642617Phoenix Wright VS Professor Layton
>>741623150>name is GOE-DAWT
>>741637326For me?It's Ginny.
>>741642769she looks like she commits petty crimes on men.
>>741642689Oh is that supposed to be the great witch? That's kind of a non-character and isn't actually real but then again, nothing in Layton games ever is so that must be why I didn't recognize her>>741642751It's pronounced Goh-Dough
>>741624951because Nick is low testosterone cuck that's why redditors love him.
>>741643030>It's pronounced Goh-DoughI've been waiting for that.
>>741623150 you are so gay>>741637326 best girl
>>741644019
>>741642396Ace Attorney is an adventure game, but I guess anon could just read Agatha Christie since that's the obvious reference in the series where you have funny stereotyped characters, somewhat of an obvious culprit, and a pretty involved howdunit element.
>>741645397>Ace Attorney is an adventure game???????????????????????????????????
>>741645397AA is literally Perry Mason ripped off, and I say this lovingly
>>741624827AAI is the peak of the series doe
>>741645397>Ace Attorney is an adventure gameSo we're just lying now lol
>>741645589>>741645812https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adventure_gameVN-like in style, but still.>>741645684That too.There was also another japanese novel instead, iirc by Edogawa Ranpo
>>741623967You are a garbage character.
>>741645589It's from that window-and-menus branch of the genre that trace back to the famicom versions of games like Princess Tomato and Portopia Serial Murder.
>>741640987Play Judgement, it scratches the itch somewhat.
>>741624824Franny is a bitch, but her heart's in the right place. She wants justice and to do the right thing.Godot is a self-absorbed asshole whose misery ruined the lives of multiple people.
>>741646923It's a visual novel.
>>741646929I played like half of this, there was one short AA parody segment in about 10-15 hours of Yakuza (aka not AA) gameplay
>>741644019faggot
>>741647310Not even the wikipedia article for visual novels agrees. It's one of those classifications that English-speakers don't get because they missed out on important titles in Japanese industry history like Kamaitachi no Yoru, similar to how pre-Phoenix Wright all visual novels were labelled "dating sims" despite having none of Tokimeki Memorial's mechanics.
>>741647758It's a visual novel.
>>741644019hetero Chad
>>741647179>justice is whipping the judgeKill yourself as soon as possible
>>741647310Ace Attorney has gameplay, it's not purely text like visual novels."Japanese Adventure Games" is the accurate genre term for the game design tradition AA evolved from: Point and click investigation gameplay, talking to people, and lots of dialog and story. It's different than VNs, which are 99% text and maybe 1% gameplay. Which is why people label them as different genres.It's all semantics ultimately. Who gives a fuck so long as people know what you're talking about. Ace Attorney is Ace Attorney, debating if it's a VN or adventure game doesn't chane anything, it's a pointless semantic debate
>>741647179Franny wanted to win, but to be fair with her, she genuinely thinks she got the facts straight and doesn't attempt to twist them. Plus she's forceful but doesn't try to cover up lying witnesses, in fact she will just whip them.>>741647310Hush zoomer.
>>741648085Don't pretend he doesn't enjoy it
>>741647962>>741648096>>741648152It's a visual novel.
>>741648371Fuck off with your "dommy mommy" shit retard
>>741648085She's an asshole and especially immature in AA2, but she does the right thing when it really matters. She comes in clutch for Phoenix and Edgeworth multiple times throughout 2, 3, and Investigations.Godot wouldn't do pic related. He was blinded by his retarded angst and lust for revenge. Meanwhile Franny gets over wanting revenge for Manfred, and then teams up with the good guys.
>>741648096I say the only reason why it would matter is because the gameplay is an important factor into how these games are seen and enjoyed.For example, DD is mostly very well written in every aspect, but it's on the lower end of the series in terms of quality because it's gameplay is extremely handholding in a manner that drags down it's writing.Personally, entries that I don't enjoy the gameplay as much are on the lower end for me even if the writing has its peaks, I'd consider AA4 to be better written than GAA1/2 actually, but because GAA1/2 are much more fun to actually play, I consider those much higher quality for the series.
>>741648408>point and click sections>choose correct object/dialogue to progressIt's basically the same kind of gameplay as Monkey Island and other classics including occasional moon logic.
>>741648661At least with her you can say she is literally a teen.
>>741648661Godot faced serious consequences for his actions, fuck he might have been executedFranziska is still out there physically assaulting people (just men in the investigation games btw)
>>741648720>I'd consider AA4 to be better written than GAA1/2 actuallyUnique opinion. GAA1/2 has some small pacing issues due to the script being a little verbose (Takumi needed an editor imo). But GAA's case writing mogs AA4. The character arcs and overarching story are better executed too.AA4 has great ideas, like Hobo Phoenix, Kristoph, and the timeline jump, but the execution isn't great. 4-4 is too messy for the overarching story. 4-2 just sucks as a case. And 4-3 is messy as a case.
>>741649184Most retards she whips deserve it. Especially witnesses. It's mainly Phoenix and Edgeworth that rarely deserve the treatment
>>741648859Unlike Monkey Island, they don't have actual environmental puzzles and different endings and character changing relationships. It's...a visual novel.
>>741649350https://youtu.be/7wOtv-J7tOI?is=HX3xC-b_u6Lav0e-Nigga lurk more. Genres are semantic labels. Ace Attorney is still clearly a different beast than stuff like Umineko, that's 99% text and 1% gameplay. Regardless of what you call either.
>>741649765It's a visual novel.
>>741650006What do you believe Ace Attorney's gameplay-to-story ratio is?
>>741650006It's not going to become true if you say it multiple times.
>>741649350>different endings and character changing relationships. This is literally a VN staple.
>>741650081Ah yes, the gameplay of "choosing a dialogue option" and "guessing right". Riveting gameplay action! How could I have been so foolish? >>741650085Speaking for yourself I see.
>>741623150Is that redman?
>>741649248That's fair, I mostly just find GAA1 taking far too long to get going and having some real stinkers in it, combined with GAA2's end game feeling rushed, Stronghart isn't quite as fun as he could've been, and I just do not give a single fuck about Kazuma, but again, the GAA's mechanics are just so much better and do not hold your hand anywhere near as often, and while I do think 4 is better written and had way more potential to be a rightful new step forward, it isn't that much better in the end because again, that gameplay harms it a lot.That's kinda what I mean by that the gameplay of the series is very important, as a collective whole, the writing in every entry is pretty good at worst and extremely charming at best, so the moment to moment actions you do in between all the writing end up being the defining differences.I consider both of the Investigation games higher than normal solely because I really vibed with it's adventure game style gameplay and other features even if I don't find every writing decision in those two games to be perfect, you get me, the gameplay matters.It's just why DD is near the bottom even if I do think most of it's writing is a slam dunk, we all know it's gameplay issues at this point and they are mostly impossible to defend.
>>741650340I only said my piece once.
>>741650006What your definition of an Adventure Game and a Visual Novel then?Why is Ace Attorney a VN when it's clearly distinct from traditional VNs that are near 100% text? Ace Attorney clearly has far more gameplay. It's clearly evolved from the tradition of Japanese point-and-click investigation games like Portopia.
>>741650305Two parts don't make a whole in a video game pie.
>>741650340You're solving dialogue based puzzles.>guessingSo like every point and click adventure game when you're stuck.
Ace Attorney is not a visual novel because it does not involve Sex With Others(tm).
>>741650901Imagine him and Phoenix in the same courtroom.How much of a shitpost the case would become?
>>741624703Yeah, even for Ace Attorney I was blown away that Franziska just beat opposing counsel with a weapon into a coma in the courtroom and it was treated as perfectly fine. Whimsically silly at worst, even.I dropped the series shortly after that; for all I know, the prosecutors now just fatally stab and eat witnesses they don't like, and the judge will just tap his gavel and move on.
>>741651042Phoenix would effortlessly defeat him.
>>741650340>Ah yes, the gameplay of "choosing a dialogue option" and "guessing right". Riveting gameplay action! How could I have been so foolishThey're logic puzzles you fucking retard. I'm sure you figured out the deduction puzzle at the end of G2-3 on your first try because the gameplay is so trivial.If you're guessing and not actually trying to solve the murder mystery puzzles, you're a retarded faggot.
>>741648001Damn, this is REALLY nice art, holy shit.
>>741651169Likely, but I'm more interested in the process than the outcome there.
>>741651126That's not as bad as throwing hot coffee
>>741650384Is that Kageaki??
>>741651369wright never reacts in pain so it can't be that hot
>>741648994I really want to see a post-timeskip Franny. She would be a better character with another layer of maturity.
>>741651737Are you saying Godot doesn't drink his coffee boiling hot?
>>74164899418 is an adult
>>741640987Accept the Chinarizona pill and play Trials Of Innocencehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2983140/Trials_of_Innocence/Or if you like cute chubby women, Nina Aquila:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1547290/Nina_Aquila_Legal_Eagle_Season_One/>If you want Ace Attorney fangames:Conflict of Interest (court-records forum)Contempt of Court (court-records)Turnabout Of The Golden Witch (itch.io: https://xak.itch.io/turnabout-of-the-golden-witch)Turnabout to El Dorado (court-records)The Torrential Turnabout (aaonline forum)Angela Light: Ace Attorney (aaonline forum - unfinished)Max Jehft: Ace Attorney (aaonline forum - if you're French)Ace Attorney: The Feather of Crime (aaonline - if you're French)Too lazy to link each individually but most should be easy to find. They are all kinohttps://aaonline.fr/forum/index.php (scroll down to english section)https://www.forums.court-records.net/You said you already knew about and played Of The Devil so I'm not going to shill it here but I personally think it's the best indie one, followed with Tyrion Cuthbert.
>Okay, you never once lied or even tried to mislead the court>And I read your book & I gotta admit that all the facts line up & the conclusion you drew from them is perfectly reasonable>But I still hate you and want you deadWhy did Athena hate her so fucking much? She LITERALLY did nothing wrong.What's worse is that Myriam lied her ass off both in & out of court, was an insult to journalism even by today's standards, she fucked up a dude's hand, and Athena totally sympathizes with her. The double-standard is out of this world.It's because Norma's fat, isn't it?
>>741652184It's because Athena's mad this hag has bigger boobs.
>>74165196318 year olds are still immature and frequently retarded
>>741652184>was an insult to journalism even by today's standardsOh come on she isn't THAT bad.Also Athena is a woman.
>>741652049>chubby That's obese, anon.
>>741639816Top tier pussy.
>>741651737He's just used to the pain
>>741640507Latest cope is Tokyo Game Show or a September Nintendo Direct
>>741651737Wright is the same guy who fell off a burning bridge into a freezing river and only had to spend a day in the hospital, same thing when he got hit by a car and went flying.He's just built different.
>>741624103No doy
>>741652501Cope or not, I can't believe we had to wait THIS long for a goddamn AA game.I could write five cases including their assets in a few months if I wanted to, much faster if I used a 3D modelling program too.
>>741648661She did this with a fresh bullet wound, btw.
>>741652328she needs to be bigger.
It's weird to think she's the same age as Ema and Maya
>>741640987https://store.steampowered.com/app/1746030/Murders_on_the_Yangtze_River/This one is good if you don't mind China wanking. Dub is surprisingly great. Also intentionally choosing the wrong culprit often leads to unique dialogue and bad endings.
>best girl still hasn't been posted
>>741652184She did one thing wrong. After it was revealed that she was set up to be a witness to a staged crime, she should've come forth with the fact that she only showed up that day because she was called by the killer.Now, it's perfectly reasonable for her to believe she was going to be shown something and then all that went down unexpectedly, but after realizing she was set up, it should've dawned upon her that this was planned from the moment she picked up the phone that morning. Not immediately, but at least within the hour.Given that the death was completely accidental, it's actually fucking amazing that Giga Nigga 8999 somehow set up this whole coverup in a single morning.
>>741653341He is absurdly good at covering his ass.
>>741623150I still remember when I was a wee lad playing TT and thinking how cool Godot was.Looking back he is an absolute giga retard kek
>>741654438both statements can be true at the same time.
>>741641993Not really reddit is the worst thing that happened to the franchise>Godot? I hate this sexist asshole (Franziska step on me)>Jean armstrong? Horrible transphobic character>Uncle ray? Yikes that's an icky from me, I'm glad the new localization cut his hugs>Every character who's canonically straight is bisexual btw you can't prove otherwise>The censorship in dual destinies is a good thing actually
>>741654814What was censored in dual destinies?
>>741654814I can agree with that, god It reminds me of why I do not comment about AA on that website.
>>741654907The new line doesn't really make sense>And I'm into braces! *cricket noise*Uhhhh thanks for letting me know...
>>741652501>Tokyo Game Show
>>741653257AOV trannies made me hate her
>>741655858CASE?
>>741637326The things I would do to Maya would reverberate through her entire spiritual ancestry.
>>741623150HEy. Fucking bitch. Shut the FUCK up. - Godot>>741624827Going back to reading the originals after the later games is weird, the originals are written with a kind of brevity & lack of detail, and the localisation is obviously much more tongue-in-cheek whereas the later games are written like standard visual novels and a little over-wordy. They don't at all feel like the same series
>>741642769Most based post in the thread. Ginny is for unconditional love.
>>741655819fuck I had forgotten about that alreadyPieces of shit
>>741624703She also whips Phoenix out of frustration immediately after instead of Godot who was still standing right there after he just rebuked her. All bark and no bite when an assertive man walks in.
>>741657352disgusting
>>741656219franziska log off
>>741659990ToT
>>741652395underrated post
>>741624103I'm gonna take that attorney's badge...shine it up really nice...turn that sumbitch sideways...AND STICK IT STRAIGHT UP YOUR CANDY ASS!
I really couldn't stand Godot because he reeks of someone desperately trying to be cool constantly, even if he's your ally most of the time.
>>741660051
>>741661904
>>741661097>desperately trying to be cool constantlyaren't most prosecutors like that?
>>741655819To be fair, I'm pretty sure every AA game was revealed at TGS
>>741623150Never played these games, all I can think of is Archer with a Oculus looking at whoever this is.
the only way to experience these games is through the DS or emulation. nothing else
>>7416631835 and 6 were revealed in magazines shortly before TGS (iirc). Then TGS was used for the full trailer.
>>741664440The 3DS port looks alright, but sprites were still more sovlful.
>>741663387It's a good series Anon, check it out. Just play in release order
>>741650901Which major characters have canonically had sex?>Gregory (But wife never mentioned)>Manfred (Wife mentioned in AAI2)>Misty Fey>Morgan Fey>Thalassa (Jove and Zak)>Athena's MomIs everyone else on the main cast a perma-virgin?
>>741665956Ryunnosuke obviously, unless he has an unmentioned brother who continued the bloodline instead. Very implied Susato ends up as his wife.Presumably Phoenix and Iris fucked, considering they were a couple. Same with Mia and Godot.
