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/v/ makes a Sonic reboot (at least 0.01% of /v/).

Here is an anon's contribution:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zmcEuocbSMAPH0Cdu0neR7qOYrOad6dB_PXEnPRM24Y/edit?tab=t.0

I'll be storytiming the last portion where he went from beta to final design.

suggest the creator what he should do:
Fix the damn art to be consistent, use higher res. Add more backgrounds and info about the arena competitions. Add plot episodes and info about the slice of life show. Go knock inside his Discord or google doc to add these since I doubt he browses 4chan unless it's a holiday.
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>From beta to final concept art
>The digital artist thought of giving her separate names and started by making a clone of Tails which is good but still misunderstood the assignment.
>I didn’t like the very first iteration but the ear necklace and bracelets had potential, just not that haircut. I needed a toddler but not something dumb looking. This one slightly reminded me of Tikal. Still we needed to move onto more designs.
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>>741628287
>Then we had too many clothes and it was looking overdesigned, but I did like the star motif so I kept that in mind, but I removed the hearts cause it was too generic that girls are associated with hearts.
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>>741628375
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>>741628424
>At the same time I asked for an opposite Red direction something edgier with more bite to contrast with the blue and to compare what works and what doesn’t.
>I specifically asked for something with more red and black and to make the accessories black and without any of the tshirts, skirts and other human clothes.
>My digital artist took it a bit into the extreme and overdesigned it in the other direction.
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>>741628483
>I looked at both this character and my digital artist with a crooked eyebrow. That’s a modern bratty looking child I said. I indeed told the artist a little more bite, more intelligence, but the black collar around the neck and the expression was a bit much. The artist once again was messing with the names.
>It indeed didn’t have the overdesigned clothes like I asked, but it then had overdesigned fur patterns which weren’t needed and a much darker shade of yellow-orange. The black tail and black tipped ears weren’t needed as was her confident mischievous expression, that personality was supposed to stay in the background for the reveal, not in the foreground.
>That design reminded of Walter Disney’s comment on Jungle Book’s Shanti character and reminded me of Frank Angone’s comment on DuckTales’ Gosalyn character.
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>>741628287
>age 5
this one
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>>741628531
>This was the pre-final design where it seemed like it got the right style of cute, but it was too toyetic with the lunar marking on her belly and chest. Reminded me of some Care Bears, Flipper the Dolphin, Tabaluga kinda character.
>It ironically looked too cute now, there was no bite, nothing to suggest that there’s something hidden in this character and unfortunately or fortunately for the viewers I wasn’t going with a shocking surprise like in Swapped.
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>>741628584
>I asked my digital artist a few times for a combination and it once again interpreted what it wanted before I had to specifically tell it. “THIS CHARACTER, BUT RED and make the shoes pointier!” . “That looks like a boy. You forgot the few eyelashes” I said to the digital artist.

>And finally this is the end result we’ve come to.
>It was just the right amount of cute and innocent with intellect, mischief and bite in it to represent my vision for the character.

>
>Next up is the 3rd form instead of the 2nd one cause there isn’t much to talk about it other than to show it off.
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>>741628737
We started with a generic anthro fox design complete with the wrong eye color. I just told the digital artist a nine tailed fox and it went from there even giving her a name I did not suggest.
I also did not even think about the robes and armour, but they were a welcome accident on the digital artist’s assumption of what a big intimidating nine tailed fox looks like.
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>>741628841
>12ft
Sweet Jesus.
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>>741628963
>I then later suggested the name change. I suggested the triangle-shaped fennec fox look, suggested the spiral black markings to help the black & white flames more which accidentally resulted in the numbers 6 and 9 on the nine tails. I suggested her eyes to be more almond shaped, not oval shaped like Tails, something more intellectual looking instead of a dork like most fan interpretations of Tails, Sonic Adventure’s Tails and Zoey from Sonic Boom. I suggested less empty space on the head to get rid of Tails’ egghead look.

>As you can see from the designs this was it. Only 2 iterations before the final 3rd iteration.
Despite this design being so extravagant this was actually the easiest one. The only thing my artists keep fucking up are the eyes. They don’t seem to understand what white flaming candle eyes on black sclera means and keep mistaking it for white irises and black pupils as you can clearly see the difference between the “powered up” eyes between the 3rd and 2nd character sheets.
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>>741629041
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Next up is the 2nd form. This one was ironically the hardest to get just right. Yes this one. Despite having no clothes, no giant forms, no special fur markings, no specific original theme going on, NOTHING ORIGINAL, this one was actually the hardest design to get right.
The only “inspirations” were Sally and Lola Bunny or otherwise the diminutive 90s bimbo look.
I started off with the original Sonic X design and a fan interpretation of it.

I started off with the original Sonic X design and a fan interpretation of it.
And I was not very happy with the result, calling it uninspired, generic and especially mediocre.
It didn’t look like a reboot with its own style.

I thought this was going to be a quick one and I was done, but my perfectionism got ahold of me. I wanted something slightly different, a different style, different everything that didn’t feel entirely like Sonic X, despite the fact the end result isn’t so different, the details make a huge difference in look.

Then I started telling the digital artist to use references and inspirations I shouldn’t have, at least not without hand holding him all the way.
> i can't quote worth a shit edition.
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>>741629165
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>>741629216
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>What resulted were some extremes, some really bad examples of leaving your inexperienced intern artist take liberties. It started looking like the last episode of the PowerPuffGirls where every powerpuff was not just a cheap imitation but a wholly different body type and style for the sake of “diversity” through extremes. It looked like mutations and aberrations when I wanted a small peak form.

>80% legs. Too much eyeshadow. Too big. The eyes are too round and then the eyes are too half lid closed and doesn’t have that intellectual look, it has that cheap secondary character Rouge the bat look.
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>>741629880
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>Way way too fat, pudgy, thick, small and midget like. The digital artist took everything wrong about Lola Bunny & Sally and exemplified their flaws ten fold front and center. Eyes still too round.
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>I threw all these in the trash and started again, this time with the correct almond eye shape, the correct kind of body, etc.
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>>741630107
>I first told my artist to just copy Lola Bunny entirely, no more weird extremes and extreme fusions.
>And got this for the Lola Bunny body, which still wasn’t good, but it at least followed some more nuanced and subtle body proportions like it was an experienced artist who understood body proportions correctly without looking extreme. The expression was still too predatory and revealing her intentions.
>She was still looking too tall without having Sonic to scale and I could only imagine how small he’d look next to her.
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>>741630206
>And then we tried with following Sally wholesale but WITHOUT the 3heads midget body which the digital artist tried to copy directly from the TV Show.
>Finally it was starting to look good, Sonic for scale really helped and the small 90s fitness woman or Sally’s modified body really helped. It was finally getting somewhere but there was still something really wrong about her look and I was dreading having to go through 6 entirely different designs again for a concept so simple.
>The expressions were still completely wrong and I almost thought the digital artist got the wrong facial figures wrong entirely. I took a good 10 seconds of thinking in complete darkness before I remembered.
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Using AI to slop up genderbender fetish art is not making a videogame.
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>>741630250
>As someone smarter than the Radio Demon’s scriptwriter said(me).
>You are never fully dressed without your smile.

>And finally. With a smile and not those sarcastic half-closed eyes she FINALLY looked like a hero protagonist instead of a villain.
>The friendly demeanour changed her look/appearance entirely, it looked like a completely different character. I also put the artist to adjust her height to be shorter.
>The eyes were round enough to be friendly but not round enough to look like a complete dork you’d give a wedgie to. The eyeliner and eyelashes were just right. The combo of almond shape and round eyes were finally correct. She looked good with and without the slight pink lipstick.
>And voila. Finally the rebooted Tails that does not look like a Sonic X ripoff.

Interestingly enough there aren't a lot of alternate poses and any fully shaded comic book examples with thise design compared to the big one.
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>>741630446
>I'm not quoting all that
No clothes, no special markings, no specific undertone theme going on like the 1st form. No Warhammer 40k detailed clothes like the 3rd form.
Just a two-tailed fox with some red boots and a typical 90s swimmer bodytype… took me as a director and my artist over 12 different tries to get it JUST RIGHT.

Apparently the human body, since we are working with a human body here, is indeed an art to get just right. THE HUMAN BODY SINCE TIME IMMEMORIAL IS A PIECE OF ART AND YOUR DOG, YOUR CAT, YOUR FOX, YOUR RABBIT BETTER BE JEALOUS OF OUR HUMAN BODIES. We did not work with an animal body here. Any talentless director without any sense of aesthetics would have instantly picked the other body type attempts saying “yeah that looks fine, that looks generically representative enough” and be done with it.
And not just the human body is an art, but the expression and facial figures our brains have to interpret since the caveman ages. It is the reason we find humans with specific facial figures appealing and trustworthy, it is the reason we can even perceive a cat’s expressions and not a dumb group-thinking easy to manipulate dog that cannot emote to save its life.

This goddamn body was a pain in the ass to get right. And it was worth it to those who appreciate a good body and not a generic mediocre unhealthy malformed mess.
You do not want to know what I did with the 3rd’s form armorless body. It still isn’t complete … from skinny to fit, I got stuck yelling at the artist that the chest is inconsistent between poses. I told it to stop making hanging balloon chests.

That’s all. I won’t talk about the other designs since I did not have issues with those and I easily had fun with them. Amy’s design was painfully easy to do for the digital artist and my direction and the references I gave.


https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zmcEuocbSMAPH0Cdu0neR7qOYrOad6dB_PXEnPRM24Y/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.bfjz4o78qi1e
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>>741630028
>>741630107
>>741630206
>>741630250
>>741630446
Why would you think this was something worth sharing, let alone making?
You were bullied at school for a very understandable reason
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>>741628205
Even in the year of our lord 2026 sonic still causes so much autism in society its fucking impressive
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>>741630575
The End
Discussion:
https://discord.gg/EsB7VkgV9j
All concept art including unused art:
Sonic project.zip


I am not the creator, I do not take credit for these ideas and I cannot answer any questions. Go ask him instead wherever he is.
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A new age of autism
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>>741630857
>autism
AI psychosis. At least autism has soul
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>>741631506
AI deragement syndrome more like it.

>Hey guys an AI helped fix cancer
>REEEEE you didn't fx it yourself!!!

>Hey guys Photoshop helped me cut out the background from this
>REEEE magic tool user !! you hack!! you cheat!! you didn't properly remove the background yourself! SHAME SHAME the witch.
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>>741631728
Using photoshop isn't the same as outsourcing your art to the third world.
I can also make art cheaper and faster than AI -- by paying some indian guy to do it for me. Saying that I'm just "being creative" and "using outsourcing as a tool" doesn't change the fact that I'm lazy.
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>>741631825
>Using photoshop isn't the same as outsourcing your art to the third world.
Like I said. AI derangement syndrome. If you really think 2 billion jeets are doing the work of the neuronal network then have my TopKek.
Those guys can't even code in Assembly. Meanwhile AI knows every grammar mistake in Assembly. It still of course does guesswork, but it does wikipedia-tier guesswork unlike pajeet that doesn't know you don't use sir in 2026 anymore like it's not even 1776 but the medieval ages with sir lancelot and the arthurian legends.
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>>741629880
>doesn’t have that intellectual look, it has that cheap secondary character Rouge the bat look.
>It has that cheap secondary character Rouge the bat look.

Oh nonononono Rougefrens!! not like this! Not like this! How will we ever recover from this?
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>>741630575
> THE HUMAN BODY SINCE TIME IMMEMORIAL IS A PIECE OF ART AND YOUR DOG, YOUR CAT, YOUR FOX, YOUR RABBIT BETTER BE JEALOUS OF OUR HUMAN BODIES
Well at least he's not a furfag. No wonder he chose good designs out of what he had. He's not insane and he's loyal to the humans.
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>>741629216
>>741630305
hmm. i think this chipmunk likes it in her posterior
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>>741632140
You just know he was struggling not to say the whore and prostitute words out loud.
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>he's still spamming his dogshit AIslop on two different boards
OP this shit sucks
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>>741634368
Go back to >>>/r/eddit we know you're redddit.
Bold of you to still be talking about anything on this pajeet imageboard after the hack when we know all your faces and emails.
Also not him, not OP, not the owner.
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>>741633075
She'd take it better than in the other place at this point.
Why does every fanart depict Sally as a crybaby in bed who can't take the smallest cocks?
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>>741636008
idk. guess from the fanfics of her based on her emotional state around sonic at the time, being his gf before amy.
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>>741628205
kys
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Can the mods actually step in and stop this shit thread?
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>>741628205
Holy fucking AI slop.
Also, not enough "squatting pose from rear view".
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>>741636260
Yeah yeah in a sec. Quiet, I'm jacking off to these.
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Here's my contribution. It's a redesign of Dr. Robotnik named Dr Rocockdick and he's based on OP because he sucks dicks all day



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