>>741628386
switch 2 pro

Dual shock 4

>>741628386
gamesir g7 pro 8k or flydigi vader 5 pro

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>>741628386
unironically dualshock 2

>>741628386
you need at least an 8k polling rate in the modern gamesphere so any of those

>>741628386
what has the best dpad?

>>741628559
This. Its absolutely amazing

>>741628559
>>741629189
what makes it better than others?

Dualsense is my favorite console controller ever
>>741629189
Is it way better than the first one? Because I found that underwhelming

>>741629158
saturn

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STEAM CONTROLLER

so I buyeded-boughtede'd the steam controller
I don't feel like playing vidya though

>>741628386
Third party
I wanted to like the dualsense, but the battery life is just atrocious, it's good otherwise
Xbocks and Nintendo can eat a dick each for their unreliable fuckery

>>741628386
I have a wireless gamesir for $130 for my Xbox.

Pos ps5 pro controller.

And switch 2 pro controller. Switch 2 pro and gamesir controllers are best.

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>>741629504
>won't get mine till September

>>741628386
The fantech nova II wgp16

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When will the chinks make a Steam controller clone, I want my damn trackpads

>>741629572
:^)
I reserved it as soon as the reservations opened. arrived pretty quickly, quite cool

>>741629153
This guy is a retard and a sheep.
Ive had an 8k mouse that ive played constantly for more than a year and I recently tested switching to low polling rate. I tried to feel a difference in several games and simply couldnt

The Logitech G600, and a cheap keyboard.

>>741629259
its heckin nintendo
xbone elite is best

I'm in the market for a new one, but every time I try I end up returning them.
Elden Ring was something where I noticed turning the camera at an angle was extremely slow before speeding up, because analog stick deadzones do not typically go to a full -1/+1 input at angles anymore. Calibrating the analog sticks for some reason never solved that issue, at least in my experience.
I stick with my ps3 controller. Nearly 20 years old and still chugging along. But I'm sure it'll give out soon.

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>>741628386
I've got a gamesaar nova 2 lite and I'm pretty happy with it. Not gonna say it's the best controller but it's a good one.
>nice membrane buttons
>microswitch dpad (only needs a very light press, could be a problem for some)
>hall effect sticks and triggers
>xbox layout + dualsense triggers
>can enable trigger stops to turn triggers into "buttons" (doesn't actually switch them to microswitches like some controllers do though)
>on the fly programmable back buttons
>turbo mode
>comes with a form fitting hard carry case
>compatible with a dock (bought separately)
Honestly the only problems I have with it so far are some features it doesn't have like gyro aiming and the aforementioned microswitch trigger toggle

>>741629654
>mouse

>>741629259
it has a nintendo logo on it

>2026
>xinput still doesn't support gyro
Fuck you m$

>>741629468
/thread

>>741629957
Yeah so it matters even less on controller

>>741630164
Because it's deprecated and superseded by GameInput.

>>741629921
What's the point of turbo mode

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30 bux at most
it works
dpad isn't shit

>>741630665
Spamming buttons. Playing way of the samurai 4 right now and getting a ton of use out of it
>in-game prompts to spam a button to do a thing
>spamming a button to get through menus for shit like disassembling loads of swords
>game crashes if the opening cutscenes play do I need to spam a button to skip the credits before the video file is played

>>741630665
Gun attacks in Final Fantasy X-2.

I love my dualsense, but I have to be honest that only like 3 games even use it's features, so it's a bit overdesigned for no reason.
For simple control, 8bitdo SN30-PRO (not pro 2, not sn-30+ not pro+. Just SN30-PRO). I paid $20 for it, and use it 5 years later. Works on switch, PC, xbox, even ios bluetooth, works great usb-c connected, has vibration, symmetrical sticks, and no FUCKING DILDO HANDLES so it actually fits in my pocket or a bag.

not any official xbox or playstation controllers thats for sure

Vader 5 pro is top tier, chinkshit that performs better than the "pro" OEM controllers

>>741628386
For no fuss? Just get an xbox one. Just plugs in. Werks

>>741628386
I bought the Gamesir G7 Pro 8K and there is no fucking games to use it on, i'm actually mad because it feels good to play with, it would have been better with a thumbstick tension because it feels a little too loose for my preference for some games.

the playstation controller is the best.
the xbox controller has positioned the movement stick on a retarded place as retarded as the controller from the n64. anyone who thinks the xbox controller is the best is a retard that doesn't know about gaming.

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>>741628386
Got a Gamesir G7 pro Aimlabs edition. Really nice controller.
The non 8k's I think are better though. There's almost no reason to go above 4k polling.
In addition the non 8k's get trigger haptics which the 8k's don't.
Also there's no difference between hall effect and TMR no matter what people tell you.
If you like a controller and it has hall effect there's no reason to dump it for a TMR stick.
The only other difference between the 8k versions and standard g7 pro's that actually matters is that the D-pad on the 8k versions are seriously better. Like way way better.
So if you want trigger haptics and don't care about d-pads get the standard g7 pro.
If you don't care about trigger haptics and want the better d-pad get the aimlabs version.

Steam Controller > Dualsense Edge > the rest

>>741629012
if it had usb c

>>741629158
PS Vita

Speaking of dpads and controllers, is there any way to mod the Deck's dpad so that it won't be as atrocious?

>>741631102
The original G7 Pro controllers have bad QC and design flaws the d-pad is too loose and rattles, the buttons also rattles and is loose, it still works but they fixed everything on the 8K version.

>>741630995
What features does it have that you can't use in games?

>>741631291
it works on every game I just need a NEW game to play it with.

I hate the fact that the gaymsaar cyclone 2 seems to be the best controller I've had, although the lack of trackpad, the xbox positioning and the lack of dognose holds it back a little.

I have elite 2 but it's kinda heavy and my hands hurt after a while. I'm wondering about 8bitdo ultimate 2. It's supposed to be 100g lighter. Anyone had any experience with it?

>>741628386
Controller autist here.
Depends.
Disregarding features and layout preference
Saar<8bit<flydigi<box<ds5<edge<elite<moddedds5.
The overpeiced 3rd party pro controllers are all worse than the elite 2 and only worth it if they come with a gimmick you really want and you think they feel great.
Saar tier feels and functions great for their price tier but build quality is shit. You might buy 2 or 3 of them.
Stickdrift is a meme and an easy fix since it's just dirt 99% of the time.
Both steam controllers are great, but unless you want the touchpads you skip. They do feel a bit cheap but the og had fantastic build quality despite the feel and never died.

>>741628386
No idea, my xbox dpad died yesterday after getting splashed by water and now i gotta replace it. The thing was amazing, lasted for close to 7 years without a single problem.
Ill probably just get a new one since getting a steam controller is next to impossible

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looking for a new one but I'm clueless about the whole thing, got some money to consoom but not above a hundred bucks, youtube is trying to sell me this one, Vader 5, thoughts?

>>741628386
Are there any that aren't made in China?

>>741632001
You really are a dumbass. Everything is made in china.

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Got a question for the autistic controllerfags, whats the best controller i can get reliability and durability wise? im an oldfag and treat my controllers really well, but i still feel the newest controllers arent that sturdy compared to the old ones, also internal batteries die over time so cables seem better i guess, my sex controller feels like shit compared to the 360, and i had to replace both my analogs with hall effect ones on my ds5, meanwhile my old DS2 works like day 1, even the springs on the analogs still have a lot of tension

>>741632116
Anything with hall effect or TMR sticks and mechanical switches on the buttons.

>>741631918
Standard flydigi stuff, decently designed peripheral ruined by their atrocious quality control. Make sure you get one produced after March of this year. They stealthily fixed the self-destructing back paddles and the tension rings loosening themselves.

>>741631254
That makes sense then. The 8k feels really solid so far.

>>741632063
Answer the question.

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steam controller, switch pro is also comfy but the dpad sucks and no anal triggers

>>741632001
my dualsense was made in vietnam.

>>741632286
Your question was retarded and your next question is retarded because it's already been answered. All controllers are made in china. Even first party xbox or playstation controllers are made in china. You may get lucky with an "assembled in US or Japan" but that's usually just the plastic shell being put on. It isn't the 1990's anymore retard.

>>741628386
I want to like the dual shock but not many games actually use the haptic feedback.

>>741629259
The feel is perfect, the analog sticks don't grind to the borders so they feel super soft to move, all buttons are in the perfect middleground without being too mushy (PS5) or too clicky (Xbox), they feel soft to the touch but have good feedback. The Xbox d-pad is way better though.

>>741630014
snoys be like
>ree why didn't you choose my controller with awful grip, 4 hour battery life and a bunch of gimmicks no game uses

>>741629012
Man Dual Shock 4 would be so good with a decent battery life and usb-c. Dual Sense is an absolute downgrade.
>>741629158
Xbox Series easily.

>>741631146
>Dualsense Edge

>200 EUR where I live
wtf

>>741628386
Xbox 360 and iterations afterwards and no the steam controller is an overrated gimmick and is uncomfortable as fuck.

>>741631918
I have one those, it is my current main pad. It has low latency and all the buttons and triggers feel good. The d-pad is also really good if you don't mind asymmetric layouts for 2D games.
The two big issue everyone had is that the tension adjustment rings come loose and two extra back paddles can break. I never used those paddles but I know there's a DIY method to make them last longer. I never had a problem with the rings but I also keep them in the default setting so YMMV. There's a new version that apparently fixes those issues however.

>>741632553
Basically allmost the same despite adaptive triggers.

>>741632603
That controller is a total scam.

>>741628559
>>741629012
Retards
>>741629079
This

>>741629012
holy BASED.

>>741632603
>>741632680
Listen to this anon. Your buy modded ds5 is a better choice than the edge and they are often in the same pricerange. It's still the same sticks but seappable, only 2 back buttons and rubber coating that starts to dissolve after a year.

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>>741632603
>dual sense edge
LMAO

>>741632668
Grip is completely different.

>>741632796
How is the gyro and touch pad support looking on the PC?
I know you have to fool that controller it's connected over USB to get some functionality.

>>741633046
No? They are a 1 to 1 copy on the shape where your hand actually rests on the controller

>>741629259
You hold one and move the sticks and you will immediately notice it feels way better than anything else, it's the texture, sticks, and back buttons that don't get in the way without it being a $150 premium controller shit. Also great battery life, everything about it feels top quality. Everyone hating on it has never hold one and you can easily tell as they only shit on Nintendo by default rather than talking about the controller itself.

>>741632927
I foolishly assumed it would have proper switches for 200
also doesn't it have like 4h battery life?

>>741633228
The fact that you actually think that shows you don't know shit about controllers or haven't held both. It has a different shape.

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>>741633279
I don't know why anyone would ever buy it.

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how do non xbox controller users deal with not having the adapter?

>>741633365
Anon, I just put one over another to be sure....

>>741633432
What's that for?

>>741632796
For PC use, Edge has an advantage in that the paddles and fn buttons are both freely remappable in Steam, DS4Windows, or whatever else. Modded Dualsense can only copy other buttons on the controller, and can't designate an unbound back button as a gyro toggle either.

That said, nobody told me you couldn't use fn buttons and face buttons at the same time, so those two aren't useful for anything you'd use in gameplay.

>>741633146
If you use steam it just werks... if you don't it's whatever it feels like today.

Is there an actual difference in FEELING with the different types of sticks? I've never had them so just curious.

>>741633961
Hall effect are more reliable than normal sticks and have no drift. TMR are hall effect sticks but with better accuracy and responsiveness allegedly.

>>741633835
I don't get why people circle jerk gyro

>>741634056
I understand, I'm asking about how they feel. Can you tell the difference in using them or no?
Truthfully I've literally never once experienced drift or any stick issues besides my N64 which literally everyone did because the plastic would grind down till it snapped off.

>>741634165
>I don't get why people circle jerk refrigeration, iceboxes are fine

>>741633961
magnetic sticks can have no inner deadzone

>>741633961
Tension varies heavily between stick modules. Most china sticks are lower tension than ALPS sticks and 3rd party controllers typically have anti friction rings and metal shafts on the stick caps, so they tend to be perceived as smoother.

Output on the good magnetic and capacitive sticks matches or surpasses potentiometers, which is to say it largely feels the same in practice. The early hall effect and TMRs are more erratic, but unless you're very used to the result of something like moving the stick 30%, I wouldn't expect the differences to stick out.

>>741629117
Dualshock 3 is objectively better

>>741634165
Because it's good.
Flick and gyro let's you perform close to mouse. Trackball and gyro if you have a steampad even more. It's my prefered control scheme for tps singleplayer.

>>741634056
More importantly TMR sticks use considerably less energy so the battery life is better.

>>741634176
The resistance or feel of the sticks has nothing to do with the stick technology it's to do with the gimbals and springs in the sticks.

>>741634490
>he fell for the splatoon gyro meme

>>741628386
PS1 Dualshock
SNES
Xbox 360
Honorable mention: Gamecube.

This was settled long ago

>>741629117
Poor built quality from the previous installment

>>741629158
SNES and Saturn.

>>741634619
Never played it. Not a tendie.
Did those squidgirls make you feel things that you can't try a control scheme?

>>741630490
Xinput was deprecated by DirectInput, Xinput is trash and was only used because the first party drivers for the 360 controller were fucked up on purpose.
>Gameinput
>Using Microshart APIs after 2004
ISHYGDDT

>>741634810
>xinput was deprecated
by literally who? Every single game that comes out still aims for xinput support and just lets wrappers like ds4windows or steaminput fix it later.

>>741634898
>To pray against, as an evil; to seek to avert by prayer; to seek deliverance from; to express deep regret for; to desire the removal of.
By anyone who is sick of putting up with it.

>>741635981
so you're full of shit, got it.
xinput is industry standard and will remain that way forever because MS forced it on every single dev releasing games on windows for the entirety of gen 7.

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>>741629572
Fug same. I was a few hours late for the registration so this is what I get

>>741632927
Gamesir is using a custom joystick module that has 99.999% linear accurate movement out of anything on the market, i don't know if its a patent or custom design by k-silver. Definitely would unsolder this if anything were to happen to the controller and add it on another if possible.

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>>741634619
splatoon gyro was shit compared to steam controller 1
I want a new steam controller but can't justify the cost as I just bought a 20 quid gamesir which is fine

>>741628386
There is no one size fits all solution but the Steam Controller 2 is the closest we've gotten.

My setup it as follows
>Steam Controller 2 for 90% of games and a lot of specific niches like recreating trackball controls in the Atari 50 collection, DS touchscreen controls, etc
>Saturn 2D pad for 2D games
>Steam Controller 1 for specific niches with the dual stage triggers and large trackpads
>Switch Pro for gyro to gyro for emulators/ship of harkinian/etc until Steaminput adds straight gyro output for the steam controller
>WiiU Pro Controller/Xbox One controllers are traditional controller fallbacks

>>741637248
Oh almost forgot
>Humble Hori fight stick for fighting games

>>741628386
Wii control because i love it to use as a dildo :3

>>741637248
>until Steaminput adds straight gyro output for the steam controller
Wait that's not a thing yet?

>>741637845
I believe Linux can pick it up automatically, but steaminput itself only has options to output as mouse, or two different options for stick output. No gyro to gyro

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Get the Victrix chinkpad. It has all the features like those $300 Elite controllers and works effortlessly on PC (unlike Steam Controller). You can set it up to your liking.

which gamesaar is closest to the xhox shape, and how bad is the wireless stick latency?

>>741638293
if you want the best latency get the G7 pro 8k, it also fixes every complaint with the original controller. Fastest controller on the market.

>>741632269
>>741632660
damn you guys know your shit, thanks, good chance I'll get one

>>741636890
i enjoy this a lot, the tactile dpad is erotic

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>>741628386
It's not out yet

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Controller sage here
It's actually the Vader 5 Pro V2 (very important).
It has fuckton of buttons, really low latency, good battery life, a solid but not included charging dock, 2 rear buttons and 2 optional back paddles and additional triggers.
Also they fixed the tension rings and it is back so it doesn't look dirty after just 10 minutes unlike Beitongs.
Unless you have a very specific use case this is the best overall controller for its price.

>>741639840
>it is back
black*

>>741638260
this is the best out hands down
>but it feels cheap
no, it's utilitarian and ergonomically perfect
is it worth getting the PC version for PC? I only have the ps verison and even though its supoosed to work i need a dedicated pc one anyway

>>741639706
this might be the next go-to but I'm not sure about only two buttons on the back and 3 bumpers instead

>>741629921
>nova 2 lite
This is the one, the d-pad is the best I've ever used personally and everything else is solid.

>>741640280
I have the Xbox version (it was the cheapest) and that one works with everything on PC due to XInput being the more or less universal standard for PC. It's really good and hugely underrated controller. The triggers have different modes which I really enjoy.

If money isn't an issue, Series X Elite Controller 3 or DualSense Edge. But they suffer from stick drift. Like a lot. Within 2 years, you'll be out of $200.

If you want reliability and no stick drift, Gamesir G7 Pro.

If you are poor, Logitech G F710.

>>741630705
In pretty much all respects but the lack of wireless I find the Tegenaria Lite feels like a Dualshock 3 or 4 except actually, like, good in the hand

>>741640397
I'm tempted by the pc version having the trackpad
but i can already see myself raging every time a game has no dual input and freaks out
maybe I'll get the xbox one like you and just xinput everything
or just wait for the 3E in that case i dunno

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>>741636890
Get some Gamecube stick caps from Retro Fighters or Retroflag, pop those in instead
Ask their support, Retroflag happily mailed me a couple of replacement sticks with just postage paid and they're sized to fit modern Dualshock style sticks

>>741640552
>If you are poor, Logitech G F710.
I hope this meme die. 8bitdo and Gamesir have better controllers for $20 or less.

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anything but this shit

>>741641303
I mean Logitech still has rep behind them.
Gamesir is a Chinese company that sounds like an Indian came up with the name, SAR!

>>741641495
logitech blew up their rep putting out shit for the past fifteen years, F310 and others by them are objectively bad buys for controllers

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>>741628386
Not any of those that's for sure.

>>741628559
It's a nice controller but it's not the best by any means. I'd say it has third place after the Dualsense and Steam controller.

>>741630904
No gyro kills it. And basically any controller justwerks through Steam.

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>>741628386
>What
gamesaars

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this is the only controller you can ACTUALLY play real vidya on. build quality is pretty shit though

>>741632659
>the retard defending xslop thinks he has the right to say what is and isn't a gimmick
Silence. Your opinion is worthless.

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>>741644464
Nice lag faggot

>>741643673
LA CREATURA DE LOS CONTROLES

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>>741644491
also the new one is kinda shit. the ergonomics make the trackpads really uncomfortable to use and the placement of the back buttons makes pressing them shake the controller a lot unless i start death gripping it so it totally fucks my gyro aiming up. the gyro and trackpads are the only thing im interested in and they’re the only thing you should be interested in if you are considering buying the steam controller cause otherwise youre just buying an expensive unergonomic controller when there are probably better and far cheaper options out there for your use case. if you are interested in trackpads and gyro you should just get the first one secondhand cause its way better.

>>741646332
is that the nail of that Dutch smokeshow bitch?

>>741629117
My hands were too small for these by the time I turned 13

>>741628386
Steam Controller is king.

>>741630705
>dpad isn't shit
I don't believe you.

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>>741628386
>Dirt cheap
>survived 10+ years of moves and regular usage, still works

Don't mind me.

>>741645035
>user submitted
these are non-professional user submissions and basically irrelevant you don't know what software and test equipment they are using and every one shows you they are completely way off the mark, they should in fact just remove user submissions, its fucking pointless and stupid.

Only verified tests should be looked at.

>>741647653
Mine had the stick area square instead of round.

I'd really like to know what you gyro faggots actually play. I never used gyro in my life. If I'm playing a FPS game I just switch to kb+m, and even most TPS games literally aim for you when using a controller

>>741647139
no eye deer

>>741646332
>>741643673
The new Steam controller looks like another colossal fuckup like the previous one. Look at the Xbox and DualSense controllers. Their shape, size and button positioning are pretty much perfect. And it feels like comfort to hold in your palm. Now look at Valves. All the buttons are small, the controller is a weird shape, and then they crammed in those touchpads that make the entire controller too busy when they should have made a controller like this: >>741638260 and come up with your own decision where you want the analog sticks, dpad and touchpad to be. You should have been able to swap the touchpads for the analog or dpad in any config that you wanted. It would have been more expensive but Valve bots are complete simps and would pay up to $300 for a premium controller just as long as it's made with quality parts like TMR sticks and a long battery life. But nope instead we got this piece of shit.

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>>741628386
Steam Controller
8bitdo Ultimate (C, 1, or 2)
Depends on what you want. I have tried most controllers on the market and none of the first party ones are any good. Razer sells grabage. GameSAAAR has great mobile controllers (G8+ is incredible for phone/Switch/Switch2), 8bitdo has the best low cost controllers (C 2.4Ghz stands alone at 30 dollars with a hall effect sticks/triggers and a wireless charging dock) and objectively the best Switch 2 pro controller w/ gyro at the lowest cost (Ultimate 1/2). My favorite is the Steam Controller. Has replaced my 8bitdo Ultimate C 2.4Ghz (pic related). I use the 8bitdo Ultimate 2 for my Switch 2 since it is objectively superior in every measurable way to the Switch 2 Pro controller while being half the price (got mine for 45 dollars shipped and comes with a wireless charging dock).
Xbox and Playstation first party controllers are among the worst controllers I've ever used, designed to fail as soon as possible with light use.

>>741628559
>alps sticks
>digital triggers
>crap dpad
actual garbage

>>741648472
I hope Valve releases firmware source for the Steam Controller (2026) so people can write Switch 2 firmware for it. I want to use it on my Switch. Replace the Bluetooth mode with it ideally.

>>741644464
>trusting jewnus dick snips with any sort of testing
they got called out for a reason they are fucking hacks

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>>741628559
very nice, very nice...
HOWEVER

>>741634490
None of that shit comes close to a mouse and you know it. Stop coping. You're still trying to use a fork to eat soup, just a fancier one.

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>>741648734
Huge buttons. Neat. Do they have something like this but with clicky face buttons and shoulder buttons (but not dpad)?

>>741648730
it was subjective testing. dont be a libby
>muh sources
fuck your sources

>>741648043
>If I'm playing a FPS game I just switch to kb+m, and even most TPS games literally aim for you when using a controller
The goal is to not have to do either of these. If you don’t care to learn a new control scheme or don’t give a shit about aim assist playing the game for you then I guess there isn’t any reason to care about gyro. It’s pretty nifty when well supported though, I’ve been playing a lot of Deadlock which has full steam input support. It’s pretty much objectively better than a joystick in precision and comfort for camera control, the only reason you don’t see it everywhere on consoles is because MS is a bunch of niggers who don’t support shit and Sony treats their controller’s extra features like gimmicks.

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>>741648949
yes the original one has clicky buttons everywhere (hence the "silent" edition)
the d-pad can be converted into that 360 thingy as well, they both have different features but the clicky version is the more "gamery" one for sure, i prefer the mushy buttons
it's also $50

Look at gamepadla and check every single verified test for the switch

the switch is the worst performing device for controllers that piece of shit actually causes latency on fast controllers even with the cable plugged in. What an actual piece of shit.

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Any telescopic controller recs for someone that plays on a fucking Redmagic Astra or small 8in tablets?

>>741648928
Of course it doesn't beat a mouse, nobody said that. But it beats breezing through tps on ultra babby because you use a mouse and it beats using a controller with aim assist. In fact it would make getting rid of aim assists feasible because you don't need one with gyro aiming. But I guess you want baked in aimbots in your shooters?

>>741649190
>>741648949
oh and the main selling point is that it has the "smooth" switch pro controller sticks but they're hall effect instead so just better

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everything else < steam controller 2

>>741648209
>headcannon the post

>>741628386
Goytendo Switch Pro

>>741648209
nigga what are you talking about. the steam controller feels just like any other controller >>741649570

>>741648928
my steam controller performance comes pretty close to my mouse performance so i bet somebody who’s better at video games could push the skill ceiling way higher. the only thing i dont like is that steam input doesn’t let you configure the acceleration curves yourself like rawaccel or something, they just give you some shitty presets which is annoying. volvo is honestly really shitty at software and im surprised nobody brings it up. windows unironically still does just werk compared to whatever the fuck valve is doing

>>741629117
DS3 mogs unfortunately by being the exact same but wireless + actual triggers. Close enough though.

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>>741649237
All tests on gamepadla are PC. Anything labeled as a Switch test means it's using the controller's Switch input mode, on PC.

But the majority of controllers on a Switch (1 or 2) perform worse than the Switch Pro and Joycons, which measurably aren't great on PC, so you're still right.

>>741651758
the mobapad chitu should be up there with the fast ones

>>741628386
DualSense Edge with TMR. The haptics/triggers are a game changer for immersion. The Steam Controller "haptics" are a meme in comparison and it's hilarious that Valve is charging $100 for that piece of shit.

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Anyone else have picrel Retro Fighters Hunter for Original Xbox?
Great otherwise but feel like I must be doing something wrong with it, because the right stick tends to register input I didn't intend, if I'm touching the stick at all. It's not drift, more like it's overly sensitive or has too small of a deadzone

>>741640552
>Within 2 years, you'll be out of $200.
You can buy replacement sticks for the edge for $19. or pay triple for a set of TMRs from some ebay user.

>>741629117
I'd be inclined to agree with you if more than 70% of them hadn't just inexplicably stopped working at this point.
PS2 controllers just die. And again, inexplicably, it seems the black ones are the longest lasting. It's the alt colored ones that have largely died.
Also really tough repairs because there are like 20 variations in shell configurations that make parts swapping borderline impossible.

>>741652116
This was a common problem at launch, the biggest complaint was that Halo just didn't control right. They released a few firmware updates to address it, have you hit those?

>>741652124
I got TMR drop ins for my Edge and even though I still bought a Steam Controller that i haven't gotten yet (next week apparently) I have a feeling I'll still use the Edge more often.

>>741638260
>Victrix
>chinkpad
lmao, it's turtle beach, they're amerilards and this shit will fall apart 2 weeks after use

>>741652318
Ohhh it hadn't occurred to me that it could be updated, I'll do that. Good that it's probably not a hardware defect or anything

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>>741628386
>For 2D
Sega Saturn Controller
>For 3D
Xbox One Controller
>For Both
PS4 controller

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>>741639840
>really low latency
besides bluetooth :^)

>What's the best controller?
GameSir G7 Pro 8K. Objectively.

https://gamepadla.com/

>>741652728
jarvis, administer the blind test

>>741653074
>le meme dongle
>no bespoke features
into the trash the game saaar goes

>>741653267
>can use an 8k dongle
>or wired
>or blue tooth
>BESPOKE xD
Do you even know what that word means you fat fuck?

>>741628386
I hate how all the cucksoles are stuck with the same layout as dual shock 1.
It limits games so much.
>Hold LB + A to use a healing item, but you need to scroll through the item list with the d-pad
>Oh you should also use the left and right analog sticks to avoid attacks at the same time
This is so gay. I switched to M&K because of that.

>>741630164
It literally never will, there simply aren't enough data channels
This is Microsoft's fault, and fuck them, but stop waiting

>>741653506
I write controller software. And by bespoke features I'm talking about controller features exclusive to the DualSense (Adapative Triggers, Haptics, Touchpad, Light Bar, Controller audio effects) / Switch (9-Axis). You idiots are getting scammed by these basic bitch controllers.

>>741653074
>Objectively
The latency is not the be-all and end-all metric. It is important for sure, but there is a lot more things to consider. like ergonomics, the amount of extra buttons and build quality. Especially when let's admit it, 99% of people are not good enough to take full advantage of the 1-2ms latency.

>>741649356
There's a razer one that fits without needing to mod anything, it's nice, I tried a gamesaar and one from abxylute but they were both wobbly compared to the razer one

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>>741652318
>>741652116
Yay, I did the updates and now it's working flawlessly.
Wonder if there's also a good way to make it register a Guide Button input if you press Back and Start at the same time, or something? Guide button for PC use is the only thing I still wish it had

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I am going to post it again and nobody can stop me

>>741654195
thanks niggy

>>741654519
>digital triggers
>poor dpad
the only thing it has going for it is the battery life, which is of low importance

>>741653950
>I write controller software
Sounds like you write gay fanfics as well faggot.

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>>741653950
Here let me post it again for you fagtard.

>>741632927
>the kind of faggot who praises gamesir is the same faggot who sucks ai dicks
why am i not surprised

>>741655528
Yup. That's seethe.

>>741655604
SAAR THAT'S A BLOODY BITCH BASTERD

>>741655074
You've never used a Dual Sense before. Like other anons said, the adaptative triggers and haptics are a game changer. And it feels so satisfying to hold. The achilles heel is the potentiometer modules. If it was TMR, it was be the best no questions asked. Otherwise enjoy your gameSAR!

>>741655528
He unironically thinks that AI summary is an apples to apples comparison. It's not worth discussing things with retards.

>>741634623
>SNES and Saturn.
Assuming the OEMs for the latter are suffering from aging parts and we're never getting a Sega Saturn NSO, what's the next best thing for authenticity? The SNES comes close but still too few buttons for certain Sega Saturn games.

>>741655730
>adaptive triggers
>still using potentiometer tech
HAHAHAHAHAHA!

>>741655918
S-SAAR, THINK OF THE BAD, DO NOT REDEEM THE SONY BLOODY

>>741629012
This

>>741655991
>worse triggers
>worse sticks
>worse buttons
>worse battery
>double the price
Snoys are actually seething so much their only come back is
>MUH DAPTIB TWIIGGARS!!!!
HAHAHAHAHA!

>>741637248
>Saturn 2D pad for 2D games
8bitdo or Retrobit?

>>741656140
this niggas seething because he bought a madcatz

>>741656140
it's time to stop, ranjeet

>>741656353
Your brains drifting snoy. Better buy that fifth new stick module faggot lmaoooo!

>>741656140
can you post a photo of your G7 Pro 8K? surely you must have one if you're shilling for it this much

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>>741628386

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>>741656438
Now post your eye color faggot.

>>741656854
dude you own a fucking gamesir

>>741656645
I'd probably only get this one if you want it for xbox. This has the fixes made for the g7 pro. If you are using it primarily for PC get the aimlabs version.

>>741628386
anything but playstation format. the left analogue stick position is not ergonomic unless you primarily use the dpad, which very few do for modern games. imagine the face buttons being in the position where the right analogue stick is, wouldn't be very comfortable would it? that's what makes playstation format inferior.

>>741657525
>the left analogue stick position is not ergonomic
Ergonomics vary person to person. I can't use Xbox controllers because the stick position strains my hands. If I completely relax my hands they're in the same shape as the ps controller is held, so that's why I prefer it.

>>741649570
this, mogs everything else I own
SC2 > DS4 > 360 > switch pro

Short answer is
>DualSense Edge
>Steam Controller

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>>741631102
>>741656854
Wait, that's what it looks like without the faceplate? The pics on the website make it looks transparent underneath. The pics you posted honestly make it look way better.

How did the "asymmetrical is more ergonomic" meme even come to be? Microsoft shilling?

>>741657935
No underneath it's transparent green. I've put on a transparent black faceplate and black sticks.

Ignoring the price, what modded dualsense is the best?

>>741631102
Why would you say non-8K is better when it has a worse D-Pad? D-Pads are one of the most critical parts of a controller to get right.

>>741628386
Best is Steam Controller, but it's not best price ratio

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>>741629921
I was about to get this one but found the EasySMX X05 Pro for even cheaper at the last moment, watched some reviews and went with it instead. The only differences I'm aware of are the shape of the d-pad and the shortcut buttons being on top instead of at the back, I'm pretty satisfied with it.

>>741658238
Please tell me that's not a rubberized grip

just got a flydigi vader 5 pro
I love having so many buttons
and I love the dpad, rear buttons, and triggers
but t b h I like the flat membrane face buttons on dualshock 4 better. and I like the rounded feeling of the dualshock 4 thumbsticks better
also, steam stops recognizing inputs in 3rd party mode after the controller sleeps. so I disable sleeping so I don't have to toggle 3rd party mode each time

>>741632497
>immediately assumes snoy
You just proved that faggot right

>>741630705
This. If all you care about is a good fucking d-pad, get this thing.

>>741658718
Checking the specs it seems to be but it doesn't feel like rubber at all on the one I got.

>>741658774
>I love having so many buttons
I struggle to find a use case for 8 extra inputs.

>>741658774
That last line is a large part of the reason I went with a Rainbow 3 instead of a Vader 5, I wanted a controller that was fully supported in Steam Input without any hiccups.
Unfortunately I did not learn until buying it that the gyro sucks, despite seeing several claims to the contrary, so I might end up getting a Vader 5 anyway.
or a Tarantula Ultra if Gamesir's going to add Steam Input support for that too.

>>741657765
my ds4 controller has stick drift and won't charge trough the micro usb port so it's a dnf

>>741659587
>if Gamesir's going to add Steam Input support for that too.
kek, I love how greedy these chinese companies are. instead of just issuing a simple firmware update they sell their customers on new controllers for each new version. what an awesome business.

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>>741655074
>has to use chatGPT for rudimentary argument
>calls others retard

>>741631151
it's a very easy mod

>>741659874
I'm noticing how you don't address any of the points made though.

Objectively? Steam Controller. But if you want cheap and just works, 8bitdo Ultimate 2C

>>741652728
>besides bluetooth :^)
Which nobody (of value) cares

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>>741659964
I don't have any stake in your reply chain. Just opened the thread and saw some chatgpt output, laughed based on the context of the chain, and replied. I'm a Steam Controller 2026 only kinda guy.

>>741660170
>gets BTFO
>seethes
>switches to steamslop
Lmao you're definitely indian.

>>741660219
you're literally shilling dogshit chinese controllers for which there are dozens of variants of because they cant produce a single good controller, faggot

>>741659539
I set up the steam desktop layout and chord layout
so I have useful stuff for using my PC / browsing and media keys etc.

but I wish games weren't designed around xinput number of buttons

I spent $300 on valve index controllers last year to hype myself for VR and they were so unbelievably shitty. I don't believe any shill saying valve can make the best general purpose controller

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>>741660219
Whatever you say anon. Keep projecting. White people don't use ChatGPT. But Indians sure do love it! I have no interest in your argument. My interests lie in spotting retards who have given up critical thinking and replaced it with an LLM. Not everyone in this thread is the same person lmfao. You might understand that if you could think for yourself.

>>741660307
It's a thread talking about which controllers people think are the best you greasy fucking jeet.
Name me another controller that has TMR sticks, hall effect triggers, mechanical buttons, extra buttons, one of the best d-pads in gaming, 8k polling, turbo and macros with both dongle, hard wire and bluetooth for under 100 bucks.

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>>741632668
The controller shape is different and bulkier. The button feel is entirely different. They tried to make the controller quieter because of the microphone and fucked up the buttons as a result. I always pick my DS4 over my Dualsense unless the game uses the haptics/triggers. In some games with very intense button input requirements like THPS the difference is massive.

DS4 is the ideal for me. I wish a chink company would steal the molds and put a faster PCB in it since Sony doesn't produce it anymore.

>>741660593
>valve index controllers
bro...

>>741660641
>Whatever you say anon.
Yup. Remember that jeet.

>>741660680
>I wish a chink company would steal the molds
>>741630705 is almost identical, just a little bit smaller

>>741628386
Wii u gamepad pro.

>>741660680
It says a lot about the DS4 that it has as many DIY faster PCB options as it does.
Most of the options are wired-only and stripped the features, but I recently learned ZD made a DS4 board that keeps all the features and also optionally includes a 2.4ghz dongle. I'm somewhat curious about that.
I think Void also sells modded DS4s straight-up, but I don't know if they ship outside Japan.

where did the mechanical click for face buttons meme begin
it just feels worse, especially when short travel

>>741661001
PC esports players who enter into tournaments where they have to use a controller. They prefer everything feel like a mouse click

>>741661001
I assume it was a natural progression from mechanical keyboards
I get better results on reaction tests and have an easier time with mashing with short travel microswitches than membrane though, so I do prefer it in practice

>>741628386
Logitech Rumblepad 2

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>>741661001
>clicky face buttons
On a related note, I have a Razer Sabertooth which I didn't store in the right conditions, and when I unearthed it like 8 years later the rubber on the grips had degraded and was sticky and very unpleasant to touch and would retain my fingerprints.
Is it beyond saving? Or is it treatable in any way

>>741629012
Biggest cheap ass piece of shit controller, you mean.

>>741647653
I bought one of these once. It was so shit, the face buttons felt like jelly and would sometimes get stuck pressed down.

is there a tmr or hall effect controller with adjustable stick tension? i have a tmr controller that is pretty cool but if i play anything that needs a bit of precision it is way too loosey goosey/icey feeling and when i go back to the DS4 it's like night and day just because of a little friction

>>741662145
gulikit sells good TMR sticks, but you have to know how to solder.

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$30 and shits on pretty much every other modern controller with the exception of maybe the Switch 1/2 Pro Controller and the new Steam Controller which I don't have.

>>741662145
Flydigi Vader 5 Pro, Beitong KP40D, GuliKit TT Max/Pro

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>he can't effortlessly dial phone numbers for making modem connections

>>741662145
Flydigi has their own solution on Vader(/Apex?) 4/5 where they add an adjustable tension ring to K-Silver hall effect sticks. I don't know the specifics of how it works, but I've only heard complaints about the Vader 5 rev1 (which still had simple-but-tacky solutions) so I'd assume they're the best choice.
Gulikit has TMR modules for retail and included in the TT Pro/Max that are tightened or loosened via a screw under the stick cap. These have a variety of QC and inconsistency issues and can fall apart if loosened too much, in addition to making disassembly a pain. Tends to loosen during use.
K-Silver also has TMR modules for retail that will be included in the upcoming Gamesir Tegenaria Pro, which are loosened or tightened by twisting the stick cap. This also changes the height of the stick and due to QC issues can cause them to tilt at an angle.

>>741652253
Depends on the model, A models last forever, H models are shit and eventually die on their own.

Playing AC04/5/Zero on those has spoiled me in a way that doesn't let me play AC7 w my xbox controller.

flydigi has an option for making joystick input circular
but it doesn't apply to 3rd party (steam) mode which seems to get the raw values
so the diagonals are like 14% higher magnitude than cardinals

do you think it is even noticeable in any games?

>>741629117
>>741634481
For children, yes. But if you're over 10 years old, odds are your hands are too big for these unless you're some little queer.

>>741632927
>drift still possible
Whoever made that chart is retarded, dualsense and the dualsense edge controllers are borderline guaranteed to get stick drift, and fairly soon too. The fact that MS and Sony still use potentiometer sticks in their " premium " $200 controllers is nothing short of a scam, simple as that.

>>741629921
I've jumped from my DS2 to N2L and really like it except for the dpad not being membrane

>>741664981
First party controllers typically overshoot diagonals by 6-12% and games are often developed with that expectation. You don't get full diagonal move speed in a number of games when under that.

The main thing circular input matters for is precise right stick aiming so diagonals aren't overly sensitive, but that too might vary by game.

>>741664981
>but it doesn't apply to 3rd party (steam) mode which seems to get the raw values
don't worry, the chinkpad nogulator v7 will work so make sure to preorder it.

>everyone shilling the Steam Controller
The d-pad is the same as the Steam Deck (ie: complete horrendous fucking dogshit).

>>741665995
post a controller with a good dpad and i am going to tell you how wrong you are
also
works for me

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>>741666283
The Elves 2 has a pretty good d-pad. Microswitch d-pads suck, but most membranes are too mushy, have poor diagonals, poor responsiveness, etc.
Just because you can play with a shitty d-pad doesn't mean you should.

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I just use my original switch pro controller. It probably sucks but I rarely play shit with a controller.

>>741667231
i play just fine with any dpad except the micro switch ones

>>741667948
It only really matters if you play a lot of d-pad heavy games. The Xbox 360 controller was fine for its console cause you'd barely touch the d-pad, but it was infamously shit.
If you are playing a bunch of 2D platformers and retro stuff then there's no reason not to get a better d-pad.

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but unorinically, why is the modern controller industry so bad at d-pads? it shouldn't be that hard. snoy's are acceptable, i guess.

>>741668586
This meme is so outdated now, the gap between bioshock infinite and CP2077 is almost as much as the gap between CP2077 and now.

>>741668586
>so bad at d-pads
nigga there aren't any games that use them properly and/or are popular nowadays, fighting is dead platformers are streamtroon niche / nintendo and you don't need a pro d-pad for cozy shit

>>741668586
D-Pads have never been better actually. It's genuinely hard to buy a bad controller today. It was dark days when Nintendo had the + patented.

Suggest me a BIG controller none of this baby hand bullshit
I have a ps5 one and it feels a little too small

>>741673536
>>741636514

>>741673536
Hyperkin Duchess is the only modern controller bigger than the Dualsense I think. Steam Controller 2 and Xbox One are similar size but different layout, so they may or may not be viable too.
Third parties typically copy SeX (smaller) or Switch Pro (even smaller).

>>741674006
>OG fat xbox controller
chills, that controller was way too fucking big for me as a kid.

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The Logitech F710 is on of the most sublime game pads ever made.

>>741675752
Unless you have a submarine

>>741628386
the ones without A B X Y

>>741636514
not bad, mine just says 2027, I don't know if I'd use it over DS4 honestly but I guess I'll at least entertain it

Probably depends on your hands and tendencies

>>741638260
its interesting, there's no way steam would auto read it as a Playstation controller though right?

Honestly Dualsense wins by default by being the only controller that truly feels innovative or "next gen" mainly due to its adaptive triggers.
I also think they may have the best haptics, but I haven't been granted the grace to try the Steam Controller yet.
But the adaptive triggers are absolutely amazing when properly implemented (just finished FF7 Rebirth and they were surprisingly done well with gameplay elements)

>>741628386
I like the feel of dual shock controller the best but the build quality/battery life/non halleffect stuff is horseshit.
I got a steam controller to replace it and it seems promising, doesn't feel as good in the hand but I haven't played a big 3rd person open world (or racing) game with it yet - which is what I bought it for.
I think it will probably shape up to be best overall.

>>741662132
Take good care of your shit and stop eating while playing vidya.

>>741628386
I can't imagine myself ever maining anything other than an Xbox controller, and that's entirely because of the left stick's position.

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>>741661001
here