Devil May Cry 1 remake is confirmed.
how bad the faces will look?
Oh boy I can't wait for Capcom to fuck up everything that makes DMC1 feel unique in order to appeal to sub humans that started with 5. The difficulty will also likely be heavily toned down because Capcom caters to fucking retards now.
>Pajeet_Nation
Well if dusk golem said it then it must be true.
I can't wait for all the video game youtube essays.
I mean it won't be DMC1. Sorry but DMC1 is the best one because of the stuff it *doesn't* have. I don't want it to be "modernized" and made more like DMC3/4/5.
I'll only buy it if they have Reuben Langdon voice Dante and make him a wacky crazy uncle
>>741638389>>741638753>the original is actually good because it lacks the depth of the rest of the series!Shut the hell up.
>>741639028>more moves equals depth>more depth equels betterI think you are the retarded one
i just started the original for the first time a few days agowhy can't we just do that instead?
>>741639126both of those are objectively true statements thoughever
>>741639028>I want something with a unique flavor to be made more like everything else because it's "modern"Yeah you are the literal sub human filth Capcom's remakes are geared towards.
>>741639448No I want it to be made like everything else because everything else is more fun and gameplay is king in a video game.
>>741638162>Remaking the only good Devil May Cry For what purpose
>>741639604we can tell
>>741639220Another retard I see.
>>741638162I hope there isn't one, since I can't see a remake preserving anything I like about the game.
>>741639165because of zoomers
>>741638162>First DMC without Itsuno since 3>The most Dante-centric DMC of allInteresting coincidence
>>741639732Because of young people who started with DMC5, who otherwise would never touch DMC1.
>>741640292A remake will definitely shake things up so Dante isn't the only playable character.A Special Edition with Nelo Angelo would be an easy expansion.
>>741640129>These are the "people" that gamedevs listen to
>>741638162Once Onimusha comes out Capcom doesn't have any action game in the horizon so it is likely to be announced at TGA.
>>741638162based. the only good DMC
>>741638162
>>741640129>>741640389
>>741639884>>741640129But I'm a zoomer from 1999 and I like these games... I grew up with a ps1
THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH ITITS IN HDTHE TEXTURES ARE GOODIT PLAYS GOOD AND RUNS ON EVERY PLATFORMSTOP FUCKING REMAKING EVERYTHING
>bharat_nation
>>741638162Why not remake 2, the one that actually needs a remake?
>>741638162It would happen one day, it was just a matter of time, also it is an opportunity to bridge the canon between DMC1 and DMC3 in much better terms, erasing the little discrepancies.- Originally it seemed Dante hadn't seen Vergil ever since Eva was killed.- Lady obviously never existed back then, so she isn't mentioned.- Both amulets were silver originally.- Dante's heirloom sword was Force Edge, there was no Rebellion.
>>741638162another demake that I won't buythanks crapcom
Capcom already spoiled that they're remaking DMC themselves, when they did that poll a while back they literally had a question that asked what Capcom IP's would you like to see get remakes and DMC wasn't even an option you could vote for lol
>>741638162This just feels natural to me. DMC5 ended in a fairly satisfying way and they can always do DMC6 if this goes well. But DMC5 also finally returned to the enemy and level designs actually looking/feeling unnerving and disgusting, after how sanitized everything looked in 4 (even DMC3 enemies were already losing some edge from 1-2). So they could definitely pull 1's horror well with what they've learned from 5 and RE. Horror movies are making a big comeback and they'd be foolish not to capitalize on that.I wonder how much they'd add from later games, and I refer less to gameplay and more to plot and characters. I know the RE remakes have added a bunch of extra things and rewrote some plot points. Vergil is basically a given.
>>741640978How companies perceive games that should get remakes are different from what the regular consumer think. Yes, DMC2 would benefit from a remake as it could end up as a much better game, but for a company to bet remaking something with a bad reputation is just a risky gamble.
>>741638162>yeet nation Who's going to voice Dante? Are they gonna bring back Drew Coombs or semi-whitelist Reuben just for this game?
>>741638162I hope it is actually real so that people getting into the series can skip the og and play the remake with what i assume will be more in line with the game design introduced in dmc3 because of how obnoxious the kamiya slurpers are. The fewer are born the better
>>741639126>>more depth equels betternot necessarily >>more moves equals depthare you trying to say this isn't truewhat point are you even trying to make here?
>another crapcum demake by a company that hasn't made a good game in 20 years>for retards whos mother wasn't born when the original release
>>741639884Tank controls are an IQ test.
>>741638162LET ME GUESSRE ENGINE
>>741641172They're obviously not gonna start with a DMC2 remake but skipping 2 and only doing 1 and 3 seems even more stupid to me. I think enough time has passed that a DMC2 remake would be welcomed instead of met with an "ew" at this point
>>741641197Reuben got called to voice him in Punishing Grey Heaven as a guest character, sure it isn't a Capcom game but surely they would have an issue with Reuben voicing Dante, a character they own, if Reuben truly became black listed.People are still taking the SF6 recasy the wrong way, Capcom simply didn't want to pay big fees for unionized VAs, Reuben took a stray bullet for this.
>not dino crisis remake
>>741641446>LET ME GUESS>RE ENGINEOf course, horror Resident Evil DMC kino is back on the menu
>>741641501>They're obviously not gonna start with a DMC2 remakewell they started with resident evil 2
>>741641446dmc1 makes the most sense in the re engine
>thread left up>anons engaging in earnestPlease die faster.
can we just get resident evil 3.5 as a spinoff not those retarded demakes for blind drones
>>741641561Good. Dino Crisis fucking sucks.
1 plays like hot garbage and it has one of the worst camera systems i've seen in games. It would be a huge improvement either way.
Why don't they just make a new game instead of molesting an old classic?
>>741641615>well they started with resident evil 2I know you're baiting but no they didn't, REmake2 after REmake1 was the original plan but it fell through because REmake1 flopped on the Gamecube, the REmake1 HD re-release is what made them finally make REmake2
>>741641615The first RE already had a remake, RE2 getting its own remake was a recurring clamor all the way back then, why do you think REmake 2's official announcement was just one guy showing his shirt to confirm it is finally happening?
>>741639028No because there is a real lack of le wacky Dante and one liners. I can't think of a single over the top sequence in DMC1, meanwhile DMC3 has like 10 of them.
>>741638162I fucking knew it, they dont even know what to do for DMC6. Instead of doing a "gaiden" game or an actual reboot, they will follow the path establishes by Resident Evil
>>741641713You suck dicks!
I've recently replayed Onimusha 1 and it's interesting how much better it holds now compared to the first DMC, no wonder Onimusha became the blueprint for half the action series under a sun.
How will they censor Trish?
>>741640786to be fair the hd port fucks up many visuals and sounds, but is fixable with fan patches
>>741641727Did you even play the game you stupid dumb nigger?
>>741641772i'm not baitingi'm not counting the only good remake because you retards always cry about tank controls so of course i wasn't counting the original resident evil remake because its still the same game . not a demake
>>741641772More like because the gamecube flopped, RE4 was saved because they released that game on ps2
>>741638389Bet that critical hits are nerfed or non-existent.
>>741641561Dino Crisis is the Baiken of Survival Horror
>>741641779>why do you think REmake 2's official announcement was just one guy showing his shirt to confirm it is finally happening?they know retards will buy shit so didn't need more to hype itjust see the shilling dragon dogma 2 caused by a fucking picture and no gameplay
>>741640461Nelo Angelo is fully under Mundus at this time, there would be nothing for him to do. Trish being playable makes alot of sense though. >>741640786I played it for the first time this year and yeah if you get past fixed camera its fine. I do wonder how third person camera would look just because so many areas are tiny corridors. DMC1 remake probably changes alot of the story for consistency.
>>741641921Yes, many times. It's great and still unique.
I'm playing DMC1 as my first DMC game rn and the fixed camera angles are giving me a stroke. Modern Platinum games have ruined me.
>>741641945>we didn't sell trillions of copies so its a flopyou crapcum shills should kys
>>741640978DMC2 remake is pointless. Any game getting remakes have a place in the story, characters who matter for future games, or atleast gameplay/ideas that could be refined. DMC2 is none of that, and basically any work on that feels like you should just make DMC6 at that point. DMC2 from the ground up wouldn't even be remotely the same game.
>>741638162remake remake remake remake remake remake remake remake remake remake remake remake remake remake remake remake remake remake remake remake remake RELEASE A NEW GAME THAT ISN'T RESIDENT EVIL FOR FUCK'S SAKE CAPCOM
>>741641847>they will follow the path establishes by Resident EvilObviously, it proved itself to be easy money, every single REmake has sold more than the original version.Devil May Cry's sales ceiling always hovered around 1 million to 2.5 million, now that DMC5 has sold over 10 million copies in 7 years, Capcom sure is hoping a remake, maybe a series of remakes, catapult every DMC game to sell well above 2 million every single time from the start, and then maybe reach 10 million in the long run.
>>741639028DMC1 and for that matter 2 are completely unique games, 3 and every game after just feeds like a rehash of 3 with minor changes.1 is closer to a survival horror game, while it is far different to Resident Evil you can feel the DNA left over. Then the combat of DMC1 is far less about being crazy and stylish and more like an actual puzzle to be solved, every enemy has a weakness and trick to fighting them. Trying to exploit the weakness of each enemy while not getting hit yourself is the main way combat plays out (or you just trivialize everything with the grenade gun). It has rough edges but all around it is a completely unique game even for the series it birthed.2 is a complete mess that is even more unique with so many weird hidden features that are never once told to you and it goes way too much into the style side having some of the best animations the series has seen and combos that you can do that rival even 3, shame the game sucks ass and you almost never can or even want to do any of that. If any game needs a remake it's this one, but any remake of these games will certainly strip them of any uniqueness and leave them as a reskin of 5.
>>741638162DMC1 is a piece of shit that does almost nothing well.>key upgrades unlocked behind jarpig grinding crap>difficulty levels are completely fucked where on the highest difficulty, regular enemies are actually much weaker. They have the same health, and only deal 60% more damage while your HP (with all blue orbs) is 3x higher. Then you factor in all the additional moves and increased DT you've unlocked, and they just became total trashmob pushovers, while bosses have a fuckhuge damage and health increase. Basically just turns the game into a glorified bossrush.>levels are big labyrinthine areas with time-wasting fetch quests where you grab some random arbitrary gizmo trash and then run across the map to stick it in the random designated gizmo slot to progress>camera is about as awful as they come in a 3D action game, especially since movement is relative to camera (unlike RE for example)>despite literally having an entire system to lock onto enemies, even when it's NOT ACTIVE, Dante STILL magnetizes to the nearest enemy whenever he attacks even if they are 30+ feet away. It's also extremely finicky to lock onto the proper enemy you want. It's impossible to emphasize just how much these factors make combat feel like complete shit>absolutely AWFUL underwater sections>slow, clunky menu weapon changes>recycles each boss multiple times, overall low enemy variety in general (but again, they become irrelevant on anything beyond a new fresh run)>items completely trivialize all challenge in the game, and you can even still earn S-ranks with these itemsIn the context in which it released, it deserves credit, but played today, it does not hold well at all, and there is basically nothing it does better than later action games. Ninja Gaiden, God of War, GodHand, MGRR, Bayonetta, Souls, Sekiro, later DMC games, even shit like Kingdom Hearts and Bamham absolutely pound it into the dirt.
>>741642030Fixed camera is genuinely superior
>>741639884I wonder how does this guy parallel parks
>DMC1 remakeBased, I will be enjoying both the game and the schizophrenic meltdowns. Capgod keeps winning.
>>741642160I think they should have done a DMC 3 remake first.
>>741642030>Nelo Angelo is fully under Mundus at this time, there would be nothing for him to doVergil wasn't doing anything in DMC5 either between ripping Nero's arm and becoming whole again at the end, yet he still got that Special Edition invitation.They can easily excuse Nelo Angelo chasing Dante at Mallet Island as his campaign.
>>741638162>Pajeet_NationStop advertising this faggot all day, every fucking day. POST THE SOURCE OR GTFO!
>>741641172i'm all for itif there's a type of game that warrants a remake, it is broken shit like dmc2
>>741642248Now write the same pasta about Dark Souls 1.
>>741642354Fixed camera is bad in general but especially bad in games without tank controls
>>741641779>The first RE already had a remakeIt's a remaster, practically the same game as it was on PS1 but with better presentation
>>741638985He won't be asked to return, hes a chud
>>741642354>Fixed camera is genuinely superiorSorry I want to see what the enemy I'm supposed to be fighting is doing, especially if it can hit me from off-screen.
I have my skepticism around this remake, but what's up with the retards hating on Itsuno's DMC games on /v/? Am I missing a bit or is it just straight up contrarianism?
>>741642452I'd just say wasting time making that expansion could be spent making a brand new game. At this point, I'd love to see Vergil have a real campaign and not be regulated to SE cuck chair. He only becomes playable in all the SE of three games now, and really should be dual protagonists with Dante next game
>>741642564Dark Souls 1 is not my favorite Souls game but is still held up by its world design, level design, enemy design, boss design, exploration, atmosphere, immersion, sense of adventure, OST, build variety, and online elements.DMC1 has pisspoor enemy variety, recycles the same bosses ovet and over, and gameplay outside of combat is utterly braindead pointless drivel
>another in*an twitter spammer threadwhy is this allowed everyday?
>>741642520no, it's a remakenew areas, different dialogues and everything
KEEP KAMIYA AWAY FROM THE GAME.
>>741642857jesus fuck, posted in wrong thread
They’re never going to make a Sparda prequel game are they?
>>741642656No, it was a remake, it just didn't deviate too much from the original, all dialogue is different, a few story beats are different.Remasters are just a new coat of paint, sometimes even reusing the same audio for dialogue even.
>>741642725No-no that secret mission with 3 shadows drilling spikes into you off-screen because the angle only shows more of the room if you move towards the camera is an intended experience. It's what 30+ /v/ niggers would call SOVL.
>>741639028Retard
>>741643048The Netflix show shitting all over Sparda isn't helping either.
>>741638502He has quite literally leaked every RE game the past decade
>>741642759Couldn't have been more wrong.
>>741643048It would break the mystique around him. The fact that game would potentially happen on the PSP back then shows little thought they put on it.
A DMC1 remake would actually be kino as fuck because the original is like 4 hours long with 2 weapons and 3 bosses
>>741643048Good
>>741638162OH MY GODA REMAKE?!WHO WANTED A NEW GAME ANYWAY LOLJUST SELL ME THE OLD GAMES UNTIL DIE
>>741638162They're done with Resident Evil. Now it's DMC time
>>741643198It was still in its Resident Evil roots, bosses were meant to be recurring, not necessarily varied.
>dogshit level design>lack of combo variety per character>balance is total ass as Dante due to Majin DT being an instant win button>enemy AI is garbage>plot is bare bones and somewhat nonsensical (how do characters get from A to B? Why did that thing explode? Why does Lucia spend a chunk of the game just sorta fucking about?)>Dante isn't as fun of a personality in it>overall art direction is great>despite being shitty to fight, some bosses are still iconic>music is possibly the best in the whole franchise>Lucia is in it and is fun to play as yet has never returned in any form in the rest of the series so most people forget she even exists>level concepts are cool and could be played with more, especially the hyper modern city areas>regular demons feel especially satanic and evil and have a unique gimmick to the series of having stronger variants appear as you advance>amulet system is original and could, with some additional moves, serve to make different builds unique>certain plot points have been canonised by 5 and, with some rewrites or cameos, could better expand the whole DMC world>the final boss for Dante is an absolute banger that approaches Vergil levels of intense>still in that early PS2 graphical era of boxy models that would look better simply by upping the poly count and detail, no need to redo too much concept artThere's nothing but positives to remaking 2 instead of 1. Even if they did a shit job at it, it would still be a better game.
>>741643098>what are sound ques
Good, DMC aged like milk specially the bossfights.
OMG!!! My friend, Aesthetic Gamer AKA Dusk Golem said its true!!!!Hi :)))See you soon :)
>>741638162they are gonna ruin it by turning it into wacky pizza reddit meme man and remove all the gothic elements.
>>741641643>muh 4chinz is dying!>look how much more activity it had during covid!
>>741643278>They're done with Resident EvilNot a chance, all RE games will get remakes at some point, it is guaranteed money.DMC is just earning the same attention now that DMC5 elevated the brand's sales to a level Capcom truly sees as worthy of getting more projects in development, and remakes are easy picks for testing waters.
>>741643426You're gonna be able to look up Dante's butt now :)
>DMC1 is perfect>lets remake this instead of DMC2 clusterfuckBut why? Also Im tired of the REngine look
>>741641406>>741642372
>>741641149>Horror movies are making a big comebackThey've never gone away
>>741643539>DMC1 is perfectDMC1 is an old man with arthritis, no one under the age of 20 will touch it after playing DMC5, Capcom wants the babies that played DMC5 as their first and likely only DMC game.
Hope they don't do the photorealistic shit again. I hated how the characters looked in 5.
>>741643480they are doing that because of the anime you dingus
>>741643426soul
>>741643426>UMMMM ACKUALLY DANTE WAS ALWAYS SERIOUS AND MADE NO HAHA JOKES DMC3 RUINED DMCI want what delusion pills dmc1fags are taking.
>>741642248Pretty much all of your points are applicable to the games you listed below. You’re implying that kingdom hearts 2 doesn’t have the most infamous underwater section in all of video games, or implying the MGR or Ninja Gaiden have fluid weapon swapping, or that GoW’s and Batman’s level “exploration” don’t just play themselves. Most games don’t even have a ranking system meaning they can be cheesed even harder than DMC, like you can literally summon other people to beat the game for you in souls games. This hyperbolic nitpicking method of game criticism isn’t smart and only outs you as some autist who is incapable of nuance.
>>741643660You think they won't follow the steps of the best selling DMC game? You are daydreaming, time to wake up.
>>741643660It's gonna be even more realistic with even more unrealistic gravity and huge enemy step hitboxes.
>>741642098>we didn't sell trillions of copies so its a flopIf it doesn't sell as much as COD is a flop according to capcom suits
>>741643539>>lets remake this instead of DMC2 clusterfuckBecause there's no precedent for remakes of flawed games being something people want. By comparison, remakes of beloved games have proven hugely successful. Maybe this is changing with Capcom remaking CV and RE0, but even these games are not as close to being as badly received as DMC2
They're going to ruin this scene because of normalfags.
>>741643752>some of these points apply in some small part to some of those other games>therefore they are all just as bad70 IQ post
>>741643198>3 bossesI think it's rather cool how they follow you hunt you instead of dying right after introduction. Also it's 5.
>>741643684The anime made DMC5 sell 2 more million copies in 15 months, in the end it is because of the games.The anime would get more seasons greenlit if it could sustain itself, now the 3rd season is confirmed to be the last one.
>>741638502What has him being wrong before?Everything i read from him for RE at least it was all true, he's even the person that leaked Leon on RE9 months before anyone else.
>>741643318>yeah my nigger, separate 3 different attack sounds from Dante's attacks and shots while this is blasting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9UbsD0-8Bs, easy. >and don't come near the side walls because the camera is going to angle you against them and you won't even see the room anymore.That entire fight is collectively ascertained as bullshit, and it's bullshit because of the camera angle the game uses for this fight. For your information, the spear attack has a silent wind-up. If you can't see Shadow doing it, you won't even hear the clang until it already hits you.
They are going to ruin Kamiya's masterpiece
>>741643148He was also completely wrong about the last Devil May Cry leak. DMC5 was actually leaked on /v/ 3 times before ever being revealed with plot points like V being Vergil 2 years in advance lol.
>>741643717Yes.
>>741643864Maybe you should unmute the game next time you play it
>>741643980>He was also completely wrongHe wasn't
>>741643864Well, they sure will change Dante changing the name of his office to Devil Never Cry.
>>741643968Kamiya hasn't really made any great games. If DMC1 is his masterpiece, I guess it'd be fitting since it isn't very good.
>>741642202>Then the combat of DMC1 is far less about being crazy and stylish and more like an actual puzzle to be solved, every enemy has a weakness and trick to fighting them. DMD is just "use inferno and grenade gun to kill everything except for a few enemies where you instead use air hike helm breaker and DT gunshots to kill them"I really enjoy dmc1 but dmc5 has a way more of this "you want to use move X against enemy Y after he does thing Z" stuff because enemies have so much more health in this game that you don't just annihilate them with raw DPS, dmc5 just has way more options so it's harder to realize stuff like "charged shotgun stops this enemy from teleporting unlike other knockback" and all the other little quirks the fastest bloody palace runs use to optimize enemies
>>741643660>I hope they don't do the RE engine for the one DMC that literally started out as an RE gameDon't hold your breath
>>741644107Of course DMC1 is a masterpiece
>>741643947your logic is retarded.thats like saying its actually because of DMC1 that we get a DMC1 remake.idiot
>>741643968Oh the horror, they will destroy Kamya's perfect vision of underwater sections.
>>741644135RE in RE engine doesn't stand for resident evil
>>741638162>pajeet nation
weird to say dmc needs a revival when a normal sequel would be gladly received by the avg gamer.
>>741643717Yeah, DMC1 was cocky but not a clown
>>741643752A ranking system doesn't change core gameplay in any way, not to mention it's a joke outside of special bonus as you can spam broken items. If RE2 had a ranking system that required you to take no damage and have speedrun tier times, that wouldn't change that the core gameplay and progression is braindead simple.
>>741638162Are they gonna keep the cocky and stoic Dante from the original or are they gonna make him into le funny reddit man from DMC 3-5?
>>741643968That's Bayonetta.
>>741644183And everything else, DMC1 doesn't need a remake
We waited 7+ years just to get DMC1 again.Meanwhile, DMC1 to DMC4 all came within 7 years.
>>741643935Half of those points are applicable to every game you listed and the other half can be filled by retarded nitpicks unique to those applicable games. You downplay the premise by saying “small part” while seething about the underwater sections which account for a cumulative 5 minutes of the player’s time per playthrough. You are a nitpicking troglodyte.
>No fixed camera>No underwater segment>No missions that last 30 seconds>No fighting the same three bosses three times>No backtracking into the room you were just in to trigger secret missionIt's gonna suck isn't it?
FUCK YOU CAPCOMYOU CAN REMAKE DMC BUT NOT DINO CRISIS???FUCK OUUUUUU
>>741643575Long gangly thumbs for a literal troglodyte.
>>741641828Dog DMC 1 is filled with them, but they are different to 3 for sure. Off the top of my head you have>Alastor Cutscene>Phantom Death>2nd Bird Fight>I SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE ONE TO FILL YOUR DARK SOUL WITH LIGHT>insane final boss (seriously it's one of the most absurd boss fights in the series)>epic plane ride out of the exploding castleIt might not be like 3 where it's just constant the whole game but all of those moments stuck out to me as being particularly over the top to the rest of the game. I also was tempted to add the fireball dino, but honestly it wasn't that over the top just a little goofy.
>>741644269>A ranking system doesn't change core gameplay in any wayhigher rank = more money = you get key moves sooner. entire strategies fall apart if you don't have the right move for the right enemy encounter in time because you were being lazy.the fact that you can beat the game on normal anyway is because capcom wants to make money instead of selling a game only 1 out of 1000 people actually wants to play
>>741643717Dante had a few cocky lines in DMC1 at most, like "Floc Off Feather Face".He wasn't riding rockets, getting crayzee and playing with guitars in DMC1.How Dante acts in when whenever he got a Devil Arm between 1 and 3 are perfect contrasting examples.However, people who say Dante in 3 was just a pizza wooh hoo man are also wrong, yes he was a showoff in the beginning but by the later half of the game you can see how he becomes DMC1 Dante.
>>741638389There's nothing for them to "fuck up." DMC1 is a dogshit game and it's a credit to Capcom that they managed to see potential in the pile of shit that it was to stick with the series long enough for it to become good (which, by the way, wasn't even until DMC3 since DMC2 sucks too). It's hard to imagine what they would need to do to make the remake somehow worse than the original. I'm not sure if it's even possible
>>741643962>Dante's attacks and shots while this is blastingTell me how I know you have no idea how to fight Shadows.This is not even a hard special mission. Done it in DMD many many times consistently.
>>741638162On one hand, an actual proper remake of DMC1 would have potential, we all know that Capcom isn't going to keep anything the same.
>>741644373>half of those points kinda sorta apply in some minor way if I do extreme mental gymnastics and the other half don't apply at all>therefore they are all just as bad70 IQ post
>>741644451You forgot>No sadistic orb placements
>>741638389DMC1 suck ass though, it's unplayable and pretty much everyone skips it. DMC started with 3.
>>741644470>being jealous of a remake that only exists because of cross promotionyeah i dont even know if you guys are actually human anymore
>>741644556Most of those are just edgy, nothing wacky like grabbing your dick while doing micheal jackson or throwing roses or using enemies as a skateboard while eating pizza
Shockingly DMC5 on Switch has an unlocked mode
>>741644580>He wasn't riding rockets, getting crayzee and playing with guitars in DMC1.He literally deflects a fucking motorcycle thrown at him with his guns in the opening cutscene, you posers need to shut the fuck up.
>>741644715Oh that's cool if only THE THING HAD VRR WHEN DOCKED.
>>741638162No thanks, you already know the punjab pos show is going to have an affect on it.
>>741644580the very first scene in the game has dante shooting away a motorcycle being thrown at him because fuck physics and the very last scene has him shouting YEE HAWdmc1 just had a worse budget, didn't have movie grade stuntmen and action coreographers working on it, and that specific early 2000's autistic voice acting where a japanese man is telling an english speaker how to speak in their own language instead of letting any gaijins decide how their own lines should go. the idea is there, just not the execution because they were too busy reinventing the 3D action game to worry if you can even understand what the characters are saying over the music.
the 3 shadow secret mission IS horseshit though, I dunno how many times I've landed on the spike and then dante decides to just shoot at one of the other shadows in the room instead
>>741639884Letting retards live among the rest of society was a mistake.
>>741644373>2 missions (on the longer end) where the absolutely awful underwater sections are a core part out of 23 missions, about 10% of the game>garbage shmup final boss>every major boss is fought 3-4 times with minor changes>50% of the game is just running around empty halls and rooms looking for the random shiny piece of shit to stick in the shiny object receptacle'>100% of the game is fixed camera without tank movement so you constantly have to reverse your inputs with every camera change>100% of the game has mandatory nearest enemy magnetization EVEN WITH THE LOCK-ON SYSTEM DISABLED, meaning you will attack in the direction of an enemy 50 feet away even if you are trying to melee something in the environment>nitpicking btwKek, kill yourself you fucking matthewmatosis drone
>>741644609>Tell me how I know you have no idea how to fight Shadows.Yes, at the time of this mission placement, you have no idea how to fight 3 shadows, nor do you have health and damage to fight said 3 shadows in a room that doesn't allow you to see all three when they can separately attack from any distance. How did you know? Did you miss the core issue being the camera and not shadows itself?>Done it in DMD many many times consistently.I had no doubts that the "skill issues" sentiment about the retarded, fixed camera angle could only come from a fanatic who DMD speedran that shit 15 times. Hence, the game has no faults or ever-made retarded design decisions.
>>741644853>erm gamedevs are actually retarded and old games are all shit because they couldn't do what they wanted to do, this is why we must remake everythinggenuinely kill yourself. im not kidding, people like you should be hanged
>>741638162LIiiggghhhhhhhttttt
>>741644561you can replay missions and grind endlessly you disingenuous little jarpiggy retard. And once you know what you're doing, getting max ranks is trivial and you will be showered in currency.
If I can't stance dance I don't want it.
>>741644989Be faster, they start away from each other.
>>741638162Is Capcom nearly incapable of making good sequels? Given how much they are aiming to make remakes of the entire RE franchise, it's amazing that they gave Pragmata a chance to get released.Dino Crisis will be next, it's almost a guarantee at this point.
>>741645058>2 missions (on the longer end)Brain damage
>>741644638>>half of those points kinda sorta applyNo they just do apply enitirely>>therefore they are all just as badHas never been said once
>>741643660Trish and Vergil were the only ones that looked bogged but I think they figured out how to work with the engine now.
>>741645065>hurr durr how would you know?By playing the game in the other difficulties first.I didn't say the game has no flaws. I just pointed out how you have to exaggerate a small issue into something unforgivable that makes the game unplayable to make your point.
So does this faggot slip a fiver to the jannies to advertise here or do you really enjoy licking up Indian AI news slop?
>>741644005The va is the best part
>>741645086I understand you're used to growing up in eternal stagnation but when you're working with cutting edge technology games can change with only a few years. with dmc1 they could only load 1 enemy type at a time which is why they all have such varried movelists, meanwhile a few years later and dmc3 can load a half dozen at the same time, yes things about dmc1 were held back by tech limitations, yes compromises were made, yes art comes from adversity and some of these limitations give the game it's unique charm.but they were still flaws, not features.
>>741645171>you can replay missionsnot in dmc1, only the later games. your options are to play the next level and then when you beat the last one you ng+ and again can only play the levels in order
>>741644989Actually, skill issues, according to the faggot who DMD'd that shit. What's wrong? You can't juggle three of them in one room where the game is actively fighting you from letting you see them? After only fighting one of them as a boss fight one mission ago? Maybe you should, heh heh, get good lol.Controlling your camera? What's next, controlling angles and vectors that you jump towards? The fuck is wrong with you, zoomers. You just don't appreciate the soul of being inconvenienced.
>>741644771What does deflecting a bike with demon powers and guns has in common with THIS PARTY'S GETTING CRAZY?If you can't tell the difference in tone to both game intros, you must lack some form discernment.
>>741638162>Some rando on Twitter "Confirmed"
>>741638162>RemakeFuck off, Capcom
https://files.catbox.moe/1jl75r.mp4I hope this audio glitch still happens
>>741645697Strategize against adversity. Get rid of at least one of them fast. If you are juggling 3 you have already lost. Shadows are generally passive if you don't attack them. Yeah the camera is a bit annoying, it's not the end of the world. Literal skill issue.
>>741645428poop_nation gets literal replies from rapeape
>>741638162great, one more ip for Capcom to fuck up with lame remakes like resident evil
Will Dante be talking to himself during missions in the remake?I meed him to break the silence because the atmosphere was too dense :(
>>741645223>Is Capcom nearly incapable of making good sequels?DMC is like the one franchise where a remake instead of a sequel feels like the right move. Itsuno left the company and DMC5 was basically intended to wrap up the series in case it was the last one. DMC6 being a DMC2 repeat where they don't know where to take the franchise after losing the director is a high possiblity
>>741645480Fix'd
>>741645394>By playing the game in the other difficulties first.I'm literally talking about 'normal.' >I just pointed out how you have to exaggerate a small issueA fixed camera and angle the game chooses, preventing you from seeing enemies, is hardly a small issue, and that secret mission is literally just an example of it that first comes to mind. But this is something that a fanatic's mind can't grasp because he is tied to fixed angles, no matter how horrible they are tied to the identity of the game. If this remake is true, we are going to have another round of Silent Hill 2 tier group wanking over le angle soul
DMC1 sucks, DMC2 is astro shit, DMC3 is very good, DMC4 is bad, DMC5 is half decent, we don't talk about DmC. So this series only has one and a half good game, we have nothing to lose.
ALL OF THESE BOYS IS INSIDE MY AHHH
>>741645480>muh hardware limitations you dont actually play games, jump off a cliff retarded normalnigger
>>741643314>debra wilson as lucia
>>741646347>I'm literally talking about 'normal.'Might as well complain about secret missions being hidden at this point.>A fixed camera and angle the game chooses, preventing you from seeing enemies, is hardly a small issueIt's a design choice and the fight is obviously designed with it in mind to fuck you up unless you solve it. You are not even complaining about the right issue. The fixed cameras are a legit non issue most of the time. It's the camera switch you actively have to fight with the transition being sudden and very disorienting in specific places like the Nelo Angelo 3 fight and the twin Cyclopes fight near the coliseum. When it works, which is most of the time, it's finr.
>>741643539>copy pasted boring bosses and back tracking is perfect
>>741643539>fixed cam>confusing map where you get lost and backtrack>perfect it's genuinely unplayable
>>741645974>Strategize against adversity. Get rid of at least one of them fastIs this you telling me to literally check on wiki what's in the secret missions before I do them? Maybe even watch a YouTube guide? How in the fuck would I know or strategize any of it? From the 3-second title of the secret mission loading screen? Oh I guess you can try again... oh right, remember? One chance. Sorry, try again in NG+.>Yeah the camera is a bit annoyingAn understatement, but thanks for agreeing, I guess. >Literal skill issueAnd there wouldn't be much less of them if you could actually control your camera and see shadows. It's especially epic when half of the fight is spent jumping into the ceiling to shoot, preventing you from seeing whether you even popped one of them into the orb form.
It isn't DMC if the voice doesn't crack a little during the delivery of that line
>>741647280>noooo you have to keep the unintentional aura loss moment because it's le funny
DMC. Serious franchise for mature gamers of education and refined taste
>>741647257>Is this you telling me to literally check on wiki what's in the secret missions before I do them?Are you a zoomer? You know dying in game doesn't kill you in real life right? You can game over and try again.>An understatementAn objective statement. You are trying to blow it way out of proportion. Why do enemies being out of sight unless you come close break your mind?>jumping into the ceiling to shootYou are playing the fight wrong. You never want to aggrevate Shadows by playing as if you are DMC5 Dante. You only dodge, taunt and bait the critical hit until there is one left. It's a skill issue and you're mad the mission won't let you finish it in your own terms, when most secret missions are gimmicky to introduce variety.
>>741644989Oh god, they're gonna turn Shadow into a full boss, aren't they?
I really don't get how this game got such an autistic fanbase, it is one of the absolute worst feeling games to play.>fixed cameras without tank controls meaning your controls will be changed and reversed constantly as you move>the fixed camera angles in general are terrible and constantly obscure the action>some of the absolute worst platforming in a third person game>underwater sections somehow made it to the final product despite being universally reviled as complete shit>forced enemy magnetization at all times (EVEN WITHOUT USING THE LITERAL LOCK-ON SYSTEM) meaning trying to hit something in the environment will instead cause you to attack in the direction of an enemy off-screen 100 feet away>forced RPG grinding garbage for nearly every attack and upgrade in the entire game (infinitely farmable so there's not even any decision-making or trade-off lol)>anything outside of combat is just sprinting through empty hallways and rooms to find random sparkling bullshit to stick in the random sparkling bullshit receptacle, made especially annoying due to aforementioned awful and pisspoor platforming>have to scour the dull environments for shitty collectibles to upgrade health and DT>very low enemy variety>even lower boss variety, all major bosses are also recycled 3+ times with minor changes>very poorly balanced moveset where you just spam the same handful of OP moves>DMD balance is totally fucked and the game basically becomes a shitty bossrush. Regular enemies actually both have 20% less HP on DMD than normal and they also deal 33% less damage than on normal after accounting for your increased HP from blue orbs. Then you factor in all the additional moves/increased DT you've unlocked, and they just became total trashmob pushovers (and never enter DT if you don't take a long time killing them). >at least the devs realized what a piece of shit the game is and allow you to spam items and still get S-ranks
>>741638389And it's going to sell gangbusters.
>>741647687Don't worry you'll be able to launch it for cool air combos now.
>>741644130>you don't just annihilate them with raw DPSabsolute skill issue, no fucking wonder you spam inferno and the grenade gun. this remake is for you pal. better be happy about it
>>741638162I need Dusk Golem to die. I don't care if someone replaces him like a hydra's head, I am genuinely fuckin sick of him like I was sick of Nibellion, who i was so happy to see go away.
>>741647712>forced RPG grinding garbage for nearly every attack and upgrade in the entire gameIt's not forced. You don't have to grind every attack and upgrade to beat the game with relative ease.
>>741646903>You are not even complaining about the right issue. The fixed cameras are a legit non issue most of the time. It's the camera switch you actively have to fight with the transition being suddenI did say that if you graze against the side walls the camera is going to switch angles and you won't be able to see anything at all until you jump away.But sure, I'm not pretending that the game chose every angle of the fight in the most horrific manner possible. It's just that when it did do that, it was really noticeable. Like, what the fuck was the last phase of the Griffon fight if you actually try to climb up the colosseum? Why do you suddenly only see 10% of the boss that way with no way of changing it besides going down?
>>741647712Half of your shit is wrong. 2/10, try again later.
Don't fuck with DMC fans, we tell new players to skip the first game!
>>741638162Can't wait for another comercially successful demake
>>741645561You can save in the middle of a mission and just keep saving and reloading endlessly to farm yellow and red orbs you retard.
>>741641406Not true, I'm a retarded zoomGOD and I never struggled with tank controls.
>>741647919Dusk Derangement Syndrome
>>741647919Niggel and Pajeet should really just kill themselves.
>>741644130I had a very different DMD experience to you apparently, I found it forced me to learn how to quickly kill all the enemies. I did abuse the grenade gun for the puppets though.I still like DMC5, it's just a very different game to 1. I can not imagine a world where a remake of 1 will still feel like DMC1 in any way, for better and worse.
>>741647947>Half of your shit is wrong.>2/10, try again later.
>>741641406I've been tested, I'm severely autistic with sub 95 IQ.
>>741647928Nothing is forced because you can just turn it off and not have to play this dogshit. Forced if you actually want upgrades and a variety of attacks instead of just spamming the same shit over and over.
>>741647940Griffon fights are all about where you choose to fight. It's not just that you will end up in a shitty place without view of the boss, but the angle of his attacks will be way harder to dodge if you choose to stand in a bad place.I don't know if they thought people should fight in the upper level but it's clearly a bad idea. Same thing with Griffon 2, tryinv to fight on deck is a bad idea. Griffon in general is the most obscure bullshit in the game with how specific interactions work.
>>741638389Don't say that, it could be much worse - they could try to pander to the audience of the dogshit new animated show.
>>741647947Literally nothing there is wrong though. Why are DMC1 cucks so delusional and retarded?
>>741648285Glad you attached a more appropriate image for your mood.
>>741647672>You know dying in game doesn't kill you in real life right? You can game over and try again.Heh, no unc, can't you maybe replay your masterpiece? It's an one shot secret mission. If you lose, get the fuck out, see you in the NG+. You can't retry it. Maybe you can if you restart the mission all together but I never cared to try.>Why do enemies being out of sight unless you come close break your mind?Because in this specific 3 shadows example they can and do attack off camera? How is that so difficult to comprehend, unc? I'd like to see the enemies that are attacking me. Not something that SOVL gaming era ever considered to be essential? >You are playing the fight wrong.No? The most effective way to do that mission is to burst one down before they can gang up on you as they walk out from the spawn locations. This is only possible if you know beforehand what's in the room and manage to flip the angle of the camera by immediately running in. So once again, wiki meta knowledge or suffer.
>>741645058>whining about everything that makes the game interesting and not just a MASH X TO AWESOMEfest
>>741648229I hear him in the walls.
>>741648568A ton of wrong things like how DMD works. I won't phonepost every singke one of them.
>>741638162>pajeet nation>pajeet animation wow DMC fell, more like Vishnu May Cry
I played DMC1 for the first time recently and it was mostly okay, I think the later levels take a dip in quality. The final nightmare fight sucked, and the final boss sucked even harder. The fixed camera wasn't really a problem until the final nightmare fight. I hated the yellow orbs. But I don't want a remake, they'll just make it play like ever other game and give it realistic graphics.
>>741648716YOU are the one wrong here you fucking retard. In the NA/PAL versions, you deal .8x damage and take 1.2x damage on Normal, on DMD that damage penalty is removed so you deal 1x, and enemies deal 2.4x. After accounting for blue/purple orbs and all the shop upgrades/unlocks, you blow through enemies with no issue in DMD. The bosses are the only relevant part of the game and everything else is filler.
>>741638162Watch them skip 2 and remake 3 after this.
>>741646515Bridget....
>>741648659>dogshit gameplay and poor design decisions is actually le interesting
>>741638162Dogshit idea.
>>741648634>I never cared to tryI know.>they can and do attack off camera?They are very passive unless attacked, giving you time to close the distance, see it and kill it 1 v 1. You just have to be aware of the ones off screen and stay away from them until their time comes.>retry knowledge>wiki meta knowledgeI bet you hated the piss easy mission to kill 100 baby spiders because you failed it once
Its getting announced at The Game Awards for the 25th anniversary. Late 2027 release
>>741641080notice how megaman legends isnt on here either
no playable vergil no buy
>>741649012That's a design choice. Let me guess, DMD in your game doesn't have a timer at certain rooms too. You are horribly incorrect about most of your stupid rant.
>>741649281Vergil will always be Special Edition bait.
>>741648716>y-y-you're wrong>I w-w-won't explain why but you j-just are!!!hahaha stupid fucking faggot https://www.reddit.com/r/DevilMayCry/comments/3yox50/dmc1_how_difficulty_modes_affect_damage_and_why/
>>741638162Is this leaker reliable or is this just more bullshit?
>>741649390I am aware of this, retard. I was talking about you claiming enemies don't DT based on time when there is a red timer in many rooms.
>>741649409Dusk Goylem accurately leaks everything from Capcom
>>741649341>it's a design choice that enemies are actually weaker on the highest difficulty than the starting difficulty even before accounting for your massively upgraded character>allowing you to spam items and still easily get S-ranks is also a design choice>the dogshit platforming is also a design choice>the horrible underwater sections are also a design choice>the godawful camera angles are also a design choice>fixed camera angles with non-tank movement meaning your inputs are constantly changed and reversed is also a design choice>the mandatory enemy magnetization even when lock-on isn't active is also a design choice>the pointless padding of collecting random doodads to stick into doodad receptacles is also a design choice>the lack of enemy variety and constantly recycled bossfights is also a design choice
>>741649037I still think they could make DMC2 into a side mission for 1.
>>741638162I can only imagine how nu-capcom will fuck this up... RE4 remake is pathetic joke compared to original.
>>741649613Are you a fucking illiterate retard? What are you talking about?>(and never enter DT if you don't take a long time killing them).How the FUCK is that claiming DT isn't based on time when I explicitly mention time?
>>741649648But does this X account accurately represent Dusk Golem? DG has come out in the past and said some leakers lie about his scoops.
>>741649723The DMC2 remake would be the low effort asset flip one like REmake3, it would still be better than the DMC2 we got
>>741644687>Unplayable Kys zoomer
>>741638162>it's gonna be DMCViedWhy don't they remake bad games to fix the bad instead of remaking good games to make them bad or mid
>>741638389It can only get better unironically
Nobody in this thread would give a fuck about DMC it weren't for this obnoxious midwit faggot>drops a new video>it's pseudo intellectual drivel you can easily poke holes through every one of his paper thin arguments>already getting clowned on hahaha should have stayed gone you fucking faggot
>>741649659>accounting for your massively upgraded characterYou're a retard frogposter. You can buy upgrades in normal mode too. DMD enemies hit harder and die faster because there is often a time limit.>spam, dogshit, horrible, godawful, constantly, mandatory, pointlessKeep acting like a retard trying to deconstruct the game by blowing your nitpicks out of proportion.
>>741649782Only game when DT is not always based on time is DMC3 so you have to be clearer about your shitposting.
>>741644204okay then what does it stand for
>>741638389If the only things they do are add proper weapon switching, Get rid of that underwater secret mission entirely, and enhance the graphics, I will be satisfied. But I know that’s just wishful thinking.
>>741649186>I know.>passive aggressively ignores that secret mission is one shot and you can't retry it responding with a snark to unrelated part of the sentence.What was that about trying the secret mission again? Maybe you should concede that your dementia made you forget it's an one-shot secret mission?>They are very passive unless attacked>see it and kill it 1 v 1Unc, I think you really should replay it. You can literally bait spears from the ones in the distance by just jumping. They do become passive if you very quickly fuck off to the other side of the arena, but guess what? They will all start going to you, and when you inevitably aggravate them, you will aggravate all of them, no 1v1. The only way to separate them is to wait for them to do the attacks that launch them across arenas. Better yet just rush one on the side with DT from the start and it will be much easier with just two.>I bet you hated the piss easy mission to kill 100 baby spiders because you failed it onceNah, it's the next one after three shadows. With two spider things that supposed to kill each other. Literally randomly jump for 5 minutes maybe they will kill each other or maybe you will get stunlocked by the boulders. It's epic unc slop.
>>741647712>fixed cameras without tank controls meaning your controls will be changed and reversed constantly as you moveYou maintain the direction you walk in even when the camera switches>the fixed camera angles in general are terrible and constantly obscure the actionWrong>some of the absolute worst platforming in a third person gameIt's just basic platforming>underwater sections somehow made it to the final product despite being universally reviled as complete shitDon't be a sperg, all the water sections combined last maybe 5 minutes at worst. Far less on repeat playthroughs.>forced enemy magnetization at all times (EVEN WITHOUT USING THE LITERAL LOCK-ON SYSTEM) meaning trying to hit something in the environment will instead cause you to attack in the direction of an enemy off-screen 100 feet awayNon-issue>forced RPG grinding garbage for nearly every attack and upgrade in the entire game (infinitely farmable so there's not even any decision-making or trade-off lol)That's not RPG grinding retard, you can also easily unlock everything after a single playthrough if you aren't a shitter>anything outside of combat is just sprinting through empty hallways and rooms to find random sparkling bullshit to stick in the random sparkling bullshit receptacle, made especially annoying due to aforementioned awful and pisspoor platformingWhich is more than you can say for most other action games>have to scour the dull environments for shitty collectibles to upgrade health and DTOh no, heaven forbid you explore a complex interconnected gothic mansion instead of running through linear hallways>very low enemy varietywrong>even lower boss variety, all major bosses are also recycled 3+ times with minor changesAnd they're some of the best bosses DMC has ever had>very poorly balanced moveset where you just spam the same handful of OP movesFalseTake your ADHD meds and stick to Fortnite zoomer
>>741649935everyone always skipped DMC1, people always started with 3
>>741638162I can vouch for Dusk Golem, but can this Twitter user be trusted?
>>741650053>You can buy upgrades in normal mode tooYou are (or definitely should be) fully maxed out on DMD including with an excess of items too, whereas most first time players will barely get half the upgrades their first time through on normal. It's a win-more system where you need high ranks to get the most currency/upgrades which in turn leads to more currency (or of course you can just endlessly farm by saving and reloading).So DMD enemies literally die quicker than normal BEFORE even accounting for the fact that your character is massively upgraded and stronger and your game knowledge is significantly higher. >b-b-b-but muh timerYes, the enemies only enter DT (at which point they finally become stronger than normal, woooow) if you take forever killing them>Keep acting like a retard trying to deconstruct the game by blowing your nitpicks out of proportion.Retard, these are not nitpicks, every core part of the game is severely flawed from controls to the level design to the progression to the out of combat gameplay to the enemy variety to boss design.There is basically nothing DMC1 does better than any other decent action game out there that came after other than simply laying the groundwork by being one of the first of its kind. It's a cool novelty in that it's interesting to see the origins of 3D action games, but that's about it, the game does not hold up well at all compared to what came after.
>>741639884>bro, I need the gameplay to look like the spastic cyberpunk webm or else it's trash. How am I supposed to get views when there's no flashing lightsThis is why they shove cgi and vertical slice trailers in nuE3, it's for paste drinking retards like this guy
the only thing I dislike about DMC1 is the upgrade system. I think all abilities should be unlocked from the start in these kind of games, Shinobi style. but that's a problem with the series in general, not just the first game. other than that, DMC1 is perfect and my favorite
>>741650192DMC3 DMD enemies have 200% the HP of normal, while DMC1 DMD enemies have 83% the HP of normal. Try not being a fucking retard
>>741638162They are going to ruin it, like they did with RE2-4 and DMCV.
>Yet another classic disappears from search enginesGas them all.
>>741650737>MORE HEALTH MORE GOODER>I SURE LOVE TO JUGGLE EVERY SINGLE PRIDE AND WRATH FOR A MINUTE EACH BEFORE THEY DIE
>>741650520Lies. Here the first game with 80% of the players the third has
>>741640129It's not zoomers, it's retards, they exist in every gen. People back then bitched about tank controls for RE and Tomb Raider. This isn't a special generational case.These people are fucking morons, and they plague and dumb down every aspect of life. We had retards back then, and we have retards now. The only difference now is the retards from now are documented online, their stupidity is saved forever, that wasn't a thing for retards in the gaming industry back then. It was also a smaller industry so less retards flocked to it.
>>741639165How is Mr. Goldbergstein supposed to get a return on his investments if you aren't buying his new slop?
I cant wait until they remake 2 and niggers on this website actually try to make up reasons as to why it was actually good and the remake will ruin it
>>741651005You are an absolute fucking brown retard subhuman strawmanning things no one ever said. DMD enemies literally die quicker than normal BEFORE EVEN ACCOUNTING FOR the fact that your character is massively upgraded and stronger and your game knowledge is significantly higher.Saying this is counterintuitive and makes the game a glorified bossrush does not mean you want every enemy to be a massive damage sponge.
>>741641446Why would they use anything else? It runs marvelously for linear games.
I've been playing games for over 30 years and anyone who genuinely insists tank controls are good is an autistic contrarian retard with absolutely dogshit taste in games.
>>741638162>Pirat NationI call bullshit.
>>741640725'98 here. We're strange creatures. We were born at the wrong time.
>>7416511782 was too ambitious for it's time. The remake will ruin it.
>>741651308Good thing DMC 1 doesn't have that
>>741651308Wrong thread retard?
>>741651159port it, accurately.add additional features/remastered assets in if you want and keep them optionaland i shall buy
>>741651308Another retard detectedA 30 year old retard is still a retard.
>>741638162HYYYYPE, LET'S GO KAMIYA CHADS! INSECTS - STAY QUIET AND LET THE MAN COOK!
>>741638162lol they're just going to fucking fill it to the brim with blacks
>>741652032They're gonna add even MORE shadows?!
>>741650051Yeah, sure, nobody ever played and liked DMC. Clearly it was some nobody's youtube video made over a decade after release.
>>741650606If you want to claim DMD is easier in DMC1 be my guest. I rest my case about your retardation.
>>741650737DT'd enemies in 1 are way harder since they do not get stunned at all. It's a punishment to let them DT. You would know that if you weren't a complete idiot.
>>741651084>Using retroachievements as a metricmillenialtranny user over here
>>741651270Yes because fighting DT'ed Shadows and Frosts is clearly a cakewalk compared to the marionettes and sin scissors you fight in the easier difficulties where they have 20% more HP and no DT.>Saying this is counterintuitive and makes the game a glorified bossrush does not mean you want every enemy to be a massive damage sponge.I countered your hyperbole with another hyperbole you pea-brained nigger. You're bitching for the sake of bitching.
>>741650481>You maintain the direction you walk in even when the camera switchesYes, that's bare minimum the game can do, otherwise you wouldn't even be able to make screen transitions you fucking retard. You constantly have to micro-adjust your movements every time the camera changes, and the fact that the game has directional inputs with a constantly changing perspective camera that just whips from one angle to another makes it even more obnoxious. >WrongNot wrong at all, tons of camera angles obscure the action or hide enemies off-screen and you have no way to adjust at all.>It's just basic platformingIt's some of the worst platforming ever, stiff jump arc, constantly changing and awkward far-away perspectives, and fixed camera angles but with relative movement. And it's not just basic platforming, if you played the game you would know it uses enemy step and air hiking frequently for combat, secret missions, and collectibles.>Non-issueNo, it's absolutely foundational to the combat you fucking retard. You ABSOLUTELY CANNOT just attack in free-form space, you must ALWAYS auto magnetize towards an enemy, even an enemy 100 feet away that you can't see, Dante will warp and turn to attack them instead of a spinning wheel or a piece of the environment directly in front of him Again, WHY EVEN HAVE A FUCKING LOCK-ON SYSTEM IF THE GAME FORCES YOU TO MAGNETIZE TO AN ENEMY AT ALL TIMES???>That's not RPG grinding retardIt's a shitty win-more grindy shit system that punishes new players who will get less resources which in turns makes getting new ranks even harder as you are weaker with less moves and upgrades. Not to mention you can just farm infinitely so there is zero decision making or trade-off, it's just pointless filler bullshit to pad the game.
>>741651270>BEFORE EVEN ACCOUNTING FOR the fact that your character is massively upgraded and stronger and your game knowledge is significantly higher.As they should. They hit harder. Retard.
>>741650481>Which is more than you can say for most other action games>Oh no, heaven forbid you explore a complex interconnected gothic mansion instead of running through linear hallwaysIt's actually worse because the non-combat gameplay is an extreme net negative. It's absolutely abysmal and complete filler yet a huge chunk of your playtime (even more for a new player who doesn't know the routing) is dedicated to this endless running through empty halls to find random shiny bullshit. >wrong11 enemy types in the entire game,that's low>And they're some of the best bosses DMC has ever hadNo, they're really not, especially not with DMC1's absolutely abysmal camera, movement, platforming, and always forced magnetism. Most of the difficulty of these fights is just battling the game's shitty design and mechanics, like with Nightmare where you can't even see him half the time due to the camera or you try attacking the wheels and you magnetize to an enemy halfway across the arena instead. It's also just extremely lazy reusing the same bosses over and over and it really fucks with your muscle memory to have the same boss but with a slight variation in how you approach him. >FalseYou never beat DMD and it shows. Basically all your arguments are >that's wrong (even though it's not)or >it's supposed to be shit and that's a good thingDMC1 cucks are such fucking braindead contrarians. I can see if you played it when it came out and appreciated it for its innovation and paving the way for future action games, but to still act like it holds up as a top-tier action game or that it doesn't have a ton of gaping design flaws is just utterly delusional
>>741651308>I've been playing games for over 30 yearsDamn those are some credentials bro
>>741638162If Kamiya is remaking this I have confidence in being superior than the original but the remake will be ruined with the RE aesthetics
>>741652735RE Engine*
>>741638162>remakeIt's all so tiresome
>>741652597>you maintain direction when camera changes>you constantly have to adjust your direction when camera changes1 line in and you are already having a stroke
>>741652598They don't even hit harder after accounting for blue orbs. So they hit weaker and are massively easier to kill.May I remind you, this is supposed to be the max difficulty?
Can this leaker be trusted?
>>741652523Better than your source nigga
>>741652654Seethe more about people being able to like an excellent game. Like, I mean it I smiled at your wall of text. When you used caps locked and called everyone a cuck it was peak.
>>741651005most enemies in dmc1 DMD die in literally 1-2 hits, meanwhile in dmc3 not only can most enemies not be juggled but the ones that can have enemy DT to make launching them require setupthis means in dmc3 you actually engage with the fucking enemies, while in dmc1 you just meme on them. figuring out that inferno and helm breaker kills everything isn't hard when your character only has 10 moves, you're going to try all of them eventually.
>>741652817Yes, retard, because you only ever just hold one direction the whole time, right? It's not like you're constantly changing directions, especially in the midst of combat. And the whole time, the camera is changing constantly causing your relative inputs to be constantly swapping and reversing, but then you also have the carryover from previous inputs before the camera shift, making the whole thing an even bigger clusterfuck.There is a reason why fixed camera games typically use tank controls, retard.
>>741652654ntaDMC 3 > DMC1 > DMC5 > DMC43 could've been a flawless game1 because of the levels and architecture which is held back with its inferior combat and questionable bosses and other sorts. 5 has the best combat but I don't like Dante's weapons that much compared to 3, the levels are unironically bland and the colours are sapped out, Dante plays like ass in this game, if it weren't for that it would be better because V is fucking boring
>>741652916>emulator screenshotinto the trash it goes
>>741652931Reddit is over there anon
>>741638162But where's the mega man legends remake?
>>741652597>>741652654wrong and retardeddon't be a bitch and learn to play the game
>>741652843You buy and find blue orbs from your very first time playing the game. They hit way harder and I have no idea how you want to spin it the other way. It's absolutely hilarious.>DMC3 hadd mode is easier then normal mode bro. I have the gun upgrade and my guns hit harder. Enemies have basically less HP!!!
This remake is a testing ground to see how fans react to possible concepts being implemented in DMC6 Isn't it?
>>741653018Your use of "constantly" is excessive. It's not nearly as bad as you make it out to be. I guess you play like a retard monkey jumping all around the place trying to fight a boss.
Aint readin all that shit you posted, looking forward to DMC1 remake tho
>>741653136this nigga on god just got some random save file because some of his C ranks were showing
>>741653284Because they do change constantly. Fixed camera with relative movement is already bad enough, but the constant perspective changes (also completely shifting your relative movement) just make it uniquely awful like no other game in exietence
>>741652985>his means in dmc3 you actually engage with the fucking enemiesNigger the DMC3 enemies are absolute dogshit, we both know everyone spammed DTE every single encounter to clear the rooms as fast as possible.
>>741653458Lol you just can't not claim it's constant huh? Some kind of brain damage causing you to exaggerate shit?
>>741653136>>741652916>deleted his first screenshotKek, exposed
>>741638162Oh boy, I can't wait for more realistic face-scanned actors larping as DMC characters.
>>741653318>>741653560They're both mine retards, I just like posting the second one more
>>741653823>They're both mine retards, I just like posting the second one moreThen why delete it? asshat
>>741653960Because I wanted to post the second one? I S-ranked DMD on both screenshots so it doesn't really matter either way.
>>741653484DTE = full bar to kill roominferno = like 1.5 runes to kill room, when a single grenade builds about that much DT in one shotin dmc3 you have to engage with the enemies more to build the DT to cheese stuff, even playing like a faggot the game has more depth
>>741638162CAN WE GO FOR ONE SECOND WITHOUT A REMAKE?!
>have to grind to unlock upgrades and new moves>have to pixel hunt for random bullshit collectibles in the environments to upgrade stats>subsequent playthroughs just carry over your upgrades>can buy infinite items>can even spam items on DMD for S-ranks It's basically a shitty jarpig disguised as an action game, that's why retards love it.
>>741654328>CAN CAPCOM PLEASE BE LESS SUCCESSFULNo, it cannot.
>>741654159You don't engage with the enemies in DMC3 DMD. You are actively discouraged from killing them out seperately because the others will DT in full health unless you spread your damage more. The game cockblocks you from killing enemies, you are supposed to dance around like a clown and finish with a DTE.
>Yamato will will no longer be an Alastor cloneMark, this is good news!
>>741654356Yeah everyone knows DMC1 is a JRPG and plays it like that, good job.
>>741638162Stop posting this faggot already
>>741638162DMC is dormant? It got a numbered entry this gen.
>>741654547>You are actively discouraged from killing them out seperately because the others will DT in full health unless you spread your damage more. which means that the enemies are alive for as long as possible and have the maximum chance of hitting you in the back as you're fighting someone else, aka you have to actually engage with them instead of mashing inferno to kill everyone instantly.you're a moron.
>>741654159Difference is people actually want to fight DMC1 enemies without resorting to inferno spam.Nobody enjoys fighting enigmas, soul eaters, dulhallans, the fallen or pretty much any enemy that isn't a non-gimmick 7 hells. All DMC3 combat highlights are in mission 2 or 6 for a reason.
>>741654784>It got a numbered entry this gen.
>>741654891DMC5 released on the PS5 and Series X.
>>741654960You mean it got a release on ps5 and series X. DMC5 came out in March 2019. The PS5 came out in November 2020.
>>741654862>Difference is people actually want to fight No you don't you want a made up faggot version that only exists in your mind.
>>741654805Yeah dancing around the enemies instead of killing them is very engaging. In fact DMC3 is so engaging in DMD that everyone just plays mission 2 on repeat.
There's nothing worse than "1 is the best" niggers. At least "2 is the best" trolls can be fun to read ironically and they sometimes keep threads alive with their bait. But to seriously even consider 1 to not be MUCH INFERIOR to 3,4,5 you would need to be a contrarian unfun autismo.
>>741654656>full Yamato moveset for Dante and/or Sparda>Alastor and Devil Sword Sparda have different movesets >Dante can dual wield Nightmare and Nightmare ß
FALSE ALARM
>>741638162No Kamiya, no buy
>>741655767Get ready:4>1>3>5
>>741655879Considering that it's disproven in the post above yours, if Capcom does make a DMC game right now Kamiya could be a part of it since he's currently working with them for the new Okami game.
>>741655851can we just ban pirat nigger posting already? I already hated him when he bragged about getting money after he stole 4chan posts
>>741641865its extremely short even by capcom tank control standards
>>741655851>I've never played a Devil Mag Cry gameHoly based. Yeah fuck this franchise. Fuck RE too
>>741638162You will play forced walking sections in my Devil May Cry 1 RemakeYou will love the Space Harrier levels in my Devil May Cry 1 RemakeYou will backtrack for SSS scores in my Devil May Cry 1 RemakeYou will insta-die during QTE cutscenes in my Devil May Cry 1 RemakeYou will mash button prompts in my Devil May Cry 1 RemakeYou will enjoy platforming in my Devil May Cry 1 RemakeYou will fight giant bosses on floating ledges in my Devil May Cry 1 RemakeYou will have stealth sections in my Devil May Cry 1 RemakeYou will watch unskippable cutscenes in my Devil May Cry 1 RemakeYou will ride a motorcycle in my Devil May Cry 1 RemakeYou will not be explained core gameplay mechanics in my Devil May Cry 1 RemakeYou will not have Bloody Palace unlocked for beating the game in my Devil May Cry 1 RemakeYou will accept gimmicks like Blade Mode and Witch Time in my Devil May Cry 1 RemakeYou will escort NPCs in my Devil May Cry 1 RemakeYou will avoid lava floor in my Devil May Cry 1 RemakeYou will hunt for collectibles in my Devil May Cry 1 RemakeYou will cook items in my Devil May Cry 1 RemakeYou will fight reused and reskinned bosses in my Devil May Cry 1 RemakeYou will praise copy-pasted stages in my Devil May Cry 1 RemakeYou will stomach Trish mommy dominatrix fetish in my Devil May Cry 1 RemakeYou will laugh at my own self-references in my Devil May Cry 1 RemakeYou will eat bugs in my Devil May Cry 1 Remake
>>741640716zoomer revisionism. ps2 sales numbers.Devil May Cry 1: 2.2 million unitsDevil May Cry 2: 1.7 million units Devil May Cry 3: 1.3 million units
>>741657543I remember DMC2 was so shit no one bothered to buy 3 on ps2.
>>741644580>you can see how he becomes DMC1 Dante.Yeah that's what we thought at the time and was implied in DMC3. he acted immature because he was a kid and it was fine but somehow in 4-5 he regressed again.
>>741657201It's amazing how Kamiya just loves getting in his own way. He will make something awesome and then bog it down with dumb bullshit.I'm convinced this happens because he playtests his own games too much, he plays them to death and gets bored with them, so he keeps adding more stuff on top to "spice it up" but in the process he overdesigns it
>>741638321Like feces?
>>741655879This
>>741643539>No styles like Swordmaster, Gunslinger, Trickster, Royal Guard, Quicksilver, and Dark Slayer>Weapon variety sucks cock. Literally 5 swords and a pair of gauntlets>Bosses don't turn into Devil Arms>Devil Arms you get don't have bosses>You have to fight every boss 3 times instead of 1>No fast on the fly weapon switching >Can't manually select missions and difficulty>Mission scoring system doesn't count kills, damage, style, deaths, or items used>Enemies don't have health bars>Enemies keep responding endlessly>Resident Evil fixed camera angles>Small af claustrophobic Resident Evil locations>Pants on the head retarded controls that you can't change>Gold orb sends you back to a previous location instead of reviving you on the spot>First person swimming sections>Touhou level before real fight with Mundus>Space Harrier level at the end>Secret Missions don't have a visual indicator and it's impossible to find them without a guide>Shitty trivial missions that last 2 minutes>23 missions instead of 20>Constant backtracking>Devil Trigger turns Dante into a demon only when performing attacks>One taunt>One alternative outfit>No Yûji Shimomura's over the top stylish and creative cutscenes>No Bloody Palace mode>No gallery mode>No library mode>No training mode>No playable Trish"Perfect" my ass
>>741643539>REngine lookWhy?
>>741643575i can understand not liking tank controls but ill never be able to get how the fuck people arent able to figure it out. Webm isnt even unrealistic in that people straight up ignore the dpad
I love the original DMC1, but a remake seems fine to me. I actually hope they change things. They need to find a way to fit it into the 3 through 5 continuity better and with the same voice actors as those games. Even if the remake is good, I will still love and appreciate the original. Just play whichever one you prefer. A new edition coming out does not harm you and in fact assists you in gate keeping the original from new players.
>>741642248But you know damn well that they gonna ruin the soul and atmosphere making the game unplayable for any thinking person.
>>741643864Spaghetti arms why
>>741658962They're not going to ruin anything. Go play the original, you will always have it and Capcom can't take it away from you. Who gives a fuck if this remake is good or bad?
>>741644580>Dante had a few cocky lines in DMC1 at mostThat's because DMC1 barely has any cutscenes to begin with. Or what, you're going to tell me Trish's characterization being so bare bones is intentional?>He wasn't riding rockets, getting crayzee and playing with guitars in DMC1.He juggles a motorcycle with his guns. That's literally the opening cutscene of the game.>How Dante acts in when whenever he got a Devil Arm between 1 and 3 are perfect contrasting examples.It's a false equivalence because DMC3 has you fight bosses before Dante gets the DAs, so it doesn't need to establish the thing is a badass demonic weapon in the cutscene itself. Instead the cutscene is a reward for the player for beating the boss.That's not to say DMC1's cutscenes don't try to be stylish. Alastor's cutscene is a huge JJBA reference and he also swings the sword cooly there.>by the later half of the game you can see how he becomes DMC1 DanteDante doesn't stop having fun in DMC3 either. He still jokes with Arkham. He's still joking with Vergil right up till the very end and he's explicit about their fight being serious when he has to actually take him out. The game ends with Dante saying he's absolutely CRAZY about hunting demons.For that matter DMC1 ends the same, with Dante and Trish bantering about killing demons as fast as they can.
>>741638162Why does the devil cry?
>>741658724To be fair modern controller d-pads are not designed for controls and pretty shit when you use them like that because of it. they're just mostly used for quickslotted items to be pressed rather than to be hold.
>>741657543because the sales of dmc3 are split between base game and special edition which came out less then a year later, assholehttps://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/business/million.htmldmc3 base was 1.3 mill, then se was another mill on console. 2.3 > 2.2
>>741638162Dormant. Really? Is this DMC 4 all over again.
>>741658505ifrit was originally just going to be yet another sword but fire and maybe some slight differences and only became a second weapon late in development
>>741641865Either Itagaki or some lead designer at Team Ninja was really in love with this game.
>>741658505Retard
>>741660657Oh. Hi Kamiya. How's that development of Okami 2 going? It's funny how you returned after your old pal Itsuno left. You murdered Bayonetta, and now you want to murder Dante as well, I suppose? It was kind of a dick move to leave your own sinking Platinum Games' ship and leave them at the mercy of Nintendo and Activision. I expect you to atone for your sins before the end of the decade, Japanese master Xehanort
>>741658023>he acted immature because he was a kidYou're fundamentally misunderstanding Devil May Cry if you think the message behind it is that not having fun makes you more respectable.Dante matures, yes, but what that means is that he finds a purpose in using his demon powers for the noble goal of defending mankind, instead of detaching himself from his humanity through them the way Vergil does. He learns to embrace and protect his human side even though it leads to pain because power for power's sake is an empty goal and leads to destruction and mayhem (see Arkham).Being overly self-serious more often than not leads to getting punked in DMC, usually by Dante himself. His whole attitude is irreverent towards the power hungry demons he fights, he isn't like that just for the sake of it but partly as a foil to his enemies (see Vergil; although Vergil is still partly human and so often plays along with Dante).PS: Before you say that this is only in later DMCs and not DMC1, you should check Kamiya's other games because they're even more to this point rather than against this.
>>741647712because its fucking cool, the atmosphere, bosses, soundtrack are awesome and dmc has never recaptured the feeling of 1 in any of the other games
>>741639884RE3 as played by a chimp
>>741638389This is every fucking demake in existence. I agree with you but it only got this bad because you people supported it.
>>741640129>DSP is better at vidya than zoomerswhat a world
We knew it was coming but this is depressing to hear. I'm beyond sick of demakes but now its coming for one of my favorite series.
>>741640490the lower the bar the easier the hurdle, everyone has to make it to the finish line anon that means more sales.
>>741638162Looking forward to the updated Trish model to get ripped, she was hot as fuck in 3 and 4 but in 5 she has a karen face. It was Capcom's 2nd RE engine game so they hadn't perfected their face scanning yet so it gives them the chance to redo their mistake
Can you imagine if they just added the old weapons as unlockables? I would be fine too if its a paid dlc or something. I just miss my girl Nevan so much and I am mad that they haven't tried to add a weapon like it.
People who say DMC1 is the only good one are just soulsfags or soulsfags in denial
>dpad to swap between guns>LT/RT to cycle between devil arms>select button to taunt and start button for the pause menu, like DMC3 onward>nightmare-b shot no longer drains DT >playable trish and nelo angelo on NG+>plasma and vergil costume for dante>make yamato play like a katana>improve griffon 2 and mundus>improve (or free) camera>sprinkle more dante/trish interactions through the first half, instead of trish disappearing for 12 missions; also proper trish boss fight, I don't care if it's the tutorial at the beginning or right before mundusThere, my ideal DMC1 remake.
>>741659635i'm upvoting you for being an actual dmc fan instead of schizophrenic #32
>>741638162FUCK OFF
