This doesn't affect Valve bros at all.

just buy PC lol

is this a joke? lol

Jesus I knew /v/ was full of 3rdies but people actually think this is a lot of money?

>>741639304
I only make 500 a week as an american, yes its expensive.

>>741639431
Well yeah you're a 3rdie

512GB is like one game

>>741638496
im not low IQ enough to pay 3x for a PC

>>741638496
costs less than a chair and comes with the controller, not awful but not good either

>>741639304
when you have wife and kids the saying "20 bucks is 20 bucks" starts to make a lot of sense.

>>741639612
You're building a PC with DDR5 RAM for less than that? Would love to see your build.

>>741638661
>just buy PC lol
1k is almost the price of a gaming gpu. You need at least 2k to build a good gaming pc. Shit sux

>>741638496
>no HLX as the timed exclusive launch title
It's over, Tim won, Rothschild won, Huang won, Sony won, Microsoft won, Nintendo won, chinese handhelds and desktops won, 500 more yachts to Gaben's collection

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>>741638496
dead in the water

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>no frame announcement

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I literally just opened up steam and saw the price tag for it

If I was a rich fag with no worries or concerns, I would probably get one. But I'm not so pass. I already have a steam deck, ps5 pro, and a 9060xt PC. I may get the 5800x3d re release but that's it. What the fuck do I need more for?

>>741639304
For this package, when you compare it to other devices, yes it is.
>somewhat less powerful than a base PS5
>no controller
>about 400 GB less storage
>costs $400 more than it

There's obviously a lot of value in it being a PC and not locked down to a walled garden of software, but it's still a relatively tough sell

DOA. Will sell 2 million units at most.

>>741639652
Even as someone doing pretty well with no kids 50 bucks is the new 20 bucks

>>741638496
>A PC that you plug into your TV and costs thousands
Welcome back 1970's PC market

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>>741640294
Once you have kids you would anything just 10.

>>741639431
>>741639470
This isn't a lot for an average American. In your country it is though :(

>>741639431
If you're this poor as an American you're literally retarded.

You can buy a fucking lawn mower and charge people $150 to cut their grass.

>>741640812
>charge people $150 to cut their grass
what dipshit is going to pay that much to have their grass cut?

I wonder what the original price point was planned to be before the whole RAM shit happened. Steam Deck was pretty good value looking back before the price increases.

when the fuck am I going to get my Steam Controller I missed the initial wave and still on reservation

>>741641059
I think about 400

>>741640812
They will call the police on you if you do unsolicited demands.

>>741639739
A GPU with the power of this piece of shit is probably like $200 bro.

>guys it will sell for $400 and I am being aggressive
They will sell it as a loss
>$500
>$600 tops
Kek

How does this thing cost more than a Steam Deck? I don't really get it. It doesn't have a screen, doesn't come with a controller, and is barely more powerful despite being new hardware.

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This is such a rip off I couldn't help but wonder.

Lmao fuck this shiiiiiiiiiiit

>>741639971
it's going to sell out and you know it
it's retarded, 512GB in 2026 is fucking nothing

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>>741638496
Brother that is way too much even if it came with steam controller and steam frame.

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>>741642509
Shitcube indeed

>>741638496
Is this real?

Aight there goes my plan to buy one.

>>741642282
okay, but can you play games with only a gpu lying in your bedroom? You need the rest of parts to build a pc. And even if you spend the absolute minimum to build a pc with Steam machine's specs, it will end up costing around the same price. If you want to actually play vidya you gonna have to bite the bullet and pay 2+k to build a decent one. Steam machine is competing mini pcs, not actual pcs and consoles, and its probably losing there as well, because you can find cheaper mini pcs in the market

>>741642509
Wow 5 dogshit games

>>741643531
dying light the beast is aight

>>741643354
You're so unbelievably clueless about PC gaming.

>>741643827
I have literally built my fucking pc. You are the one who is talking out of his ass

>if you don’t buy my heckin based valve goy console and support all your money into Israel you are poor and subhuman

Rage ban Indians now

>>741638496
Post the specs :)

>watch consoles die within a few years
>watch normies & casuals pick it up
Valve made a critical hit with this one.

>>741643354
>it will end up costing around the same price
Ok, and it runs Windows which is useful for more than just games. And the parts are reusable while the Steam console will be e-waste in 2 years.

>>741638496
>512gb
>$1000+
Cmon what a meme
16gb ram and mid gpu too

You can get cheaper better prebuilts on fucking amazon, i dont even wanna know the thermals of this shit

>>741643827
>>741643940

Okay let's take a very mid range GPU that you can actually buy, an RX 9060 XT with 8GB VRAM.
That's $290
i5 13400F for the CPU, that's $189
We'll go cheap on the mobo, ASRock B760M Steel, $140
We're at $519 so far
We don't care about the case so let's just set a budget of $150 for whatever's cool, so we just need RAM and storage to match the Steam Machine
2TB NVME... we'll go with a shitty WD Green SN350 at $249.
and then for RAM we'll get some Kingston FURY Beast at $307.
So we have a lovely total of $1225

Still cheaper than the Steam Machine.

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>valve is now alienware
top lmao

Bots will pay 1049, you will pay 2400+

It's so fucking expensive

>>741644782
are you buying all used parts or something because a 9060 xt is not $290

>>741645010
Lucky for you you are able to pay over time with klarna, affirm and paypal. It's never been easier. Choose between 4, 6, 12 or 24 monthly payments and get the items you want, now.


*subject to approval, not everyone will be eligible for all plans.

>Over $1k
>With enough room to install 2 (two) AAA games.
Aight

>>741645306
It may not be able to install ark.

>>741644104
>support all your money
Sarr you musdbe stopping

>>741645219
You jest but dudes will take out loans to go on vacations. They seek to profit off of low impulse control normies.

>>741645306
2 is gracious

>>741639304
you can get an arguably much better PC for that budget
and it wont be a glorified bing bing wahooo machine but an actual pc

>>741645440
You are all low impulse control normies to them.

>>741646079
nta but I was tempted to buy valves shitty controller for a day but controlled myself.

So frame gonna be at least 800, right?

>>741646371
1000

>>741640106
I am a richfag (compared to most of the poors here) but I see no reasok to buy the steam machine. As masterrace I have a superior PC and Ayaneo 2 which cover all of my needs.

>>741638496
>AI bros ruin gaming for profits
God I hate this world so much

>>741638661
GamersNexus said a PC thats as powerful as this one would cost about $1000 or something like that

>>741638868
IS THIS AN OUT OF SEASON APRIL FOOLS JOKE???

>>741646605
>Do you guys not have money?

>>741646496
I have a lower range AMD PC and a Steam Deck. The PC has Windows 10 and I can do all kinds of tasks with it. The Machine is meant to be one of those cheaper mini PCs but if the price doesn't fit that range then there's not much of a point to it.

>741646639
Everybody hates you her. Why the daily humiliation ritual?

>>741638496
>can't even upgrade it
This shit of e-waste tier.

>less powerful than a PS5
>still a good upgrade for many /v/tards
lmao

It's going to sell out btw.

>>741639304
for a piece of shit like that?
yes, it's expensive.

>>741639304
A week and a half of savings. Cheap as chips.

>>741646972
Typical, pretend that it's sold out to create fomo.

>>741638496
>512gb

>>741646972
Yeah because they msde like 5 of them

>pcbros will buy this and thank them for the opportunity
HAHAHAHAHA

>>741646972
They're killing the Steam Machine off. They'll sell their initial stock and it'll never be in-stock again.

>>741638496
Valvies will buy this shit regardless.

Ouya won.

>>741638658
Humiliation ritual, they should have just canceled the launch and save face.

>>741639304
For something that is basically just a PS5? Yeah, that's IS a lot of money. The value just isn't there.
Just build a regular PC

Tyrone will steal it anyway.

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>>741638496
>Took too long for me to wait for a steam machine so I took my old i7, 3070 rtx, 32gb of RAM, 1tb ssd and moved it to my living room with Bazzite as my OS.
>Bought a MSI Aegis with 32GB of RAM, A 2TB ssd, 5080 rtx, and a ryzen 9900x for $2k right as Ram got fucked thanks to a Costco deal cause I knew prices were gonna get fucked and even before the insane price hikes it was a decent deal and figured it was time to update the main rig.
>Haven't given a shit about steam machine, knew it'd be over 1000 when prices went parabolic and steam said they were not going to take any kind of loss on the hardware.
>Knew it was kind of not gonna be worth it when it heavily relied on AI upscaling to meet 4k metrics.
Other than it being really good on power consumption, it loses to almost every competitor.
But don't cry for valve. The goal was to have the steam machine usher on Linux on gaming PCs
I may not be using steam OS but I am definitely a Linux user now. So mission accomplished I guess.

>>741639304
A 6 year old 500,- ps5 outperforms it.

Even costs aside, its less performance then a fucking console for 6 years ago.

>>741640812
>this guy pays a mexican to trample his lawn every other day for $150 each
this country is such a meme lmao
also people who worship money and act like others are lesser than for having less are literal scum, and I say that as someone who lives in a upper midclass area.

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>>741644823
Now that's a name I haven't heard in a long long time

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>512 GB

>>741647693
>A 6 year old 500,- ps5 outperforms it.
proofs?

>>741640812
Not everyone likes working.

This thing would of been $600 a year ago and even then a hard sell, they are out of their minds at $1k.

>>741644782
>That's $290
lmao

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>>741638496
>PC master race then
>no don't buy prebuilt, you need to build it from scratch
>PC master race now
>It's not valve's fault, the economy is just bad m'kay?

You can literally just buy a better prebuilt right now. Why would anyone buy valve's box?

>>741649727
>out of stock

>>741649727
form factor. the small size has me considering it

>>741649727
Hey can you link that page?

>>741644782
>9060 XT for $290
Fucking where?

>>741638496
I didn't realise this thing is 6x6x6, very cute.

>>741649727
thats not a cube

>>741649727
Out of stock, 10x the size of the SM, looks worse, have to dick around to get steam OS on there and then solve the built in wifi/bluetooth/steam puck connectivity

>>741644782
So you're just going to sit the parts in a cardboard box or something? Also, you forgot a PSU.

>>741650079
he bought it when it was $290
I knew because I did lmfao

>>741642509
Install new game
Beat it
Uninstall
Install new game
Beat it
Uninstall
Dont need anything else
Do you people seriously have a bunch of games installed at once? No wonder /v/ doesnt play games you're spending all your time trying to pick one

>>741650387
I don't think Americans have fast enough internet to do this

>>741649858
>ETA: 6/24

You can still checkout. It's just an example anyway, you can find a ton of prebuilts at around the $1000 pricepoint.

>>741650170
>solve the built in wifi/bluetooth/steam puck connectivity

You telling me the steam cuck is complicated enough that you can't just plug in your shit into a usb port? Every pc comes with wifi and bluetooth.

>>741638496
How?
I still have a PC and will still continue to play games on Steam.
Valve's hardware has never interested me.

>>741650445
>Every pc comes with wifi and bluetooth.
No?

>>741650660
Alright, 99% of prebuilts come with wifi and bluetooth if you wanna split hairs.

>>741650387
This is fine if you're an autist that never plays multiplayer games

>>741643354
Gaming laptops around steam machine's price, beat the steam machine in performance tests, and if u go for a gaming laptop with an nvidia gpu, you have dlss magic to give u even more performance and better visuals.

>>741640812
>>741642171
>They will call the police on you if you do unsolicited demands.
wait really? no way

>>741650445
>Every pc comes with wifi and bluetooth.
No they do not all come with wifi 6 and the mesh that the SM uses is interesting
The one that you linked doesn't
Try to get build something like that in a 6 in by 6 in cube and get back to me

>>741649727
oh wow, this looks bad for steam machine.
until now I was just thinking "ok, this is worse in every way compared to a gaming laptop for the same price"
but seeing that even a full desktop that according to digital foundry's tests, has twice the peformance of a steam machine, can be bought for less money.....jesus, what was valve even thinking?

>>741651053
Yeah, but I still insist that Steam machine's actual competitors are mini pcs, because unlike laptops, every mini pc (including Steam machine) offers limited hardware customization options. But I will agree that there better choices than Steam Machine budget wise right now

>>741651196
Probably because the machine in his screenshot isn't buyable anymore...

>>741651193
>No they do not all come with wifi 6 and the mesh that the SM uses is interesting

Lmao no one needs this. If you're not hardwiring your stationary desktop pc, you're stupid. You think you're gonna carry it around like a laptop?

>>741639739
and half that price is ssd and memory. Shit really sucks right now

>>741638496
>try to buy 16 gigs of RAM now
>it's half the price of a Steam Machine
Not a bad deal desu

Gabe: You guys have money, right?

>>741651374
You are confused on what the wifi mesh is for. That's okay though

DOA, as predicted.

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>>741651294
No you can buy it, it just ships in 2 days.

>>741651538
Gabe: White men only

>>741644782
>RX 9060 at 290 dollars
That price was before AIkikes ruined the market. Now its at least +100 dollars
>No cpu cooler
>No psu
Are you baiting or something?

>>741651632
does asus have a prebuilt with these components but a nvidia gpu around the same price? I wanna get a prebuilt soon-ish and this actually looks like a great deal lmao. If it has an option for like, a 4070, that might be an instant buy for me.

>>741639304
Isn't it funny how you sperg out when people call you a poorfag for complaining about console prices?

>>741639431
I make less than 500 a month, as a non american.

>>741651876
Around this pricepoint($1000USD) I only see 5060's available. You're probably looking at $1700 for a 5070 prebuilt. Wouldn't really call that a good deal. Primeday is this week so if you're looking to buy you might want to check there as well.

>>741639304
The world isnt revolve around you. Enjoy your parents money while it lasts

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>$1.000 is a lot of money
are you poor?

>>741651632
lmao, there are retards who would buy a steambox instead of this.

>>741652482
>The world isnt revolve around you
lol

>>741652514
Everyone is saying that for 1000 dollars you can get a way better desktop pc, and a way better laptop.
Its too much money for the garbage specs it has.

>>741652640
A better laptop? Get real

>>741652640
The size of the Steam Machine considering its specs is genuinely impressive.

>>741641186
No, it was $600 and $800.

i don't care about the gabecube

show me the frame

>>741652514
No, I'm White. Not sprnding money on dumb shit is part of my culture. But don't worry dude, those gold chains and jordans totally make you look like a big spender and not just another low-impulse control hood nigger.

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>>741652640
buying comparable parts and a cheap case ($40) to contain them in would make it so you're spending about $200 extra to get the steamcube, not really a bad deal considering the time spent building and testing it if you're starting from scratch, once again this board is flipping the fuck out over nothing

>>741646571
>AI out of nowhere
Blame the corporations and not ""bros"".

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>>741649727
9060xt is performing about 50% better than the steam machine. Oof.

how will this even work? either they make it more expensive down the line or massively cheap out on components to drive down the price since the pc component market is perma fucked for the foreseeable future. is it realistic to assume these prices are the cheapest it will ever go for without worse components? i wonder if they'll just sell through their initial stock then kill this thing outright in a year or two.

>>741652514
How Caviar and actual Vanilla taste like

I never understood this
It's harder to cram shit into a tiny box, it's harder to cool it, it's harder to fix it when something breaks so what's the point
Is it for people who live in closets? Those hong kong apartments?

>>741646571
>GamersNexus said a PC thats as powerful as this one would cost about $1000 or something like that
I could buy a Laptop right now with better specs for less. And that works without having to buy extra peripherials.

>>741653747
>I could buy a Laptop right now with better specs for less.
Go on then, link it

>>741653942
https://www.mediamarkt.de/de/product/_gigabyte-gaming-a16-3thk3de894sh-16-zoll-ryzentm-7-260-16-gb-1-tb-nvidia-geforce-rtxtm-5050-windows-11-home-3014255.html

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>>741638496
Due to the queue system, even if I want the $1050 model theres no chance I'll get the chance to buy it. And if I choose not to get a 2TB model I might not get a Steam machine for the rest of the year.

>>741639631
>comes with the controller
not in the base version at 1049$...

>>741639631
>comes with the controller
lol
lmao even

>>741646837
I ain't buying it but I built my current pc 7 years ago or so. Why upgrade when I've mostly been playing titan quest, battle for the grid and morrowind.

>>741654190
>I might get lucked out of being scammed!

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>>741639739
>you NEED 2k for a pc
best value gaming gpu available right fucking now is a 9070xt for around $600 bro. you can literally slap some shit together for $1500 that dumpsters any console for the next 5 years

>>741652391
It's OK I make $5500/m and get raped with my $1800 apartment payments, tax, etc.

I put about $10k/yr into the market but after that I'm basically living paycheck to paycheck

>>741655415
>It's OK I make $5500/m and get raped with my $1800 apartment payments
I make roughly the same and my apartment is only $750/m. Must suck ass to be a cityfag.

>>741654589
>bro you can just buy a 5090 for $3000 and literally slap some shit together for $4000 that will dumpster any shit amd pc for an eternity

>>741655753
the 5090 is going to drop like a fucking rock my guy, next generation nvidia and amd hardware is going to completely smite it
$3000 for a card that melts itself and doesn't even double the performance of a $700 card is a horrible deal

>>741655559
Suburbs. It has the far from niggers tax.

>>741655987
fair enough

>>741649727
Link?

>>741641013
A white man.

>>741656818
Which one

>>741650387
PC not having the ability to play from disk ruined literally everything.

>>741656447
Not gonna link since I've been banned for posting newegg links before. They claimed it was spam even though they allow steam links all the time. Just search the model name, there's not that many to sift through.

>>741639304
For the same price you can get this system with is better https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6VDSyX1HBy8

>>741642282
Don't even need a discreet GPU to meet this power. The latest iGPUs on the market are comparable.

>>741658252
the apu you need to get to match this can only be found in $2k+ systems

>>741644823
unsure about this timeline

>>741642509
it runs wukong at like 15fps
this is straight up deceitful marketing

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wtf is this performance, am i missing something?

>>741659195
the silicon in this thing taps out at the rx 7600 performance, what are you expecting?

>>741652514
but a switch 2 is supposed to be too expensive?

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>>741638658
We already own PCs. The gabe cube is for consolefags

>>741659195
They built it using the steam survey metrics. So if 80% of gamers are playing farmville on their 2015 laptop, then that means steam machine targeting that is good enough. That's why they went with 8gb vram, 1080p performance.

>>741639431
It sounds like you need to get a full-time job, or do something that doesn't pay you less than 13 dollars an hour.

>>741640182
im pretty sure they said it comes with a controller

>>741659195
What's wrong with 60 fps on a TV. I don't get the complaint

>barely runs Doom TDA
It's already outdated

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>>741659195
It was never going to be a computer for enthusiasts, but a cheap alternative to a console. HOWEVER, with AI fucking up the market, it's no longer a cheap or even comparable alternative to a console.

That leaves the market segment that just wanted an entertainment computer that's prebuilt and JUST WERKS which is also not a huge market at this price level.

So we're actually back to Steam/Linux enthusiasts being the people who will buy this and play their old autism games and claim it's just fine because it works on their machine.

The side story of how Snoy and MicroSlop is taking a bath on every console they sell because of the upstream costs is not being advertised widely. It could conceivably kill the market or make one similar to corona used cars when 5 year old consoles are suddenly worth twice what you paid.

>>741638496
>not even 1tb in 2026
>games literally require download with no other option
>1.5 tb expansion model is $300 more expensive
>steam is effectively selling 1.5tb proprietary memory for $300

>>741659723
That's after taxes.

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>>741652514
I forgot /v/ is full of millionaires and not just a bunch on NEETS shitposting to each other.

>>741652819
WOW I CAN PAY 400-500 EXTRA DOLLARS FOR MY BAD PC TO BE A CUBE
WHAT VALUE!

>>741639431
damn i earn that much and i dont even work, i just sit around playing video games all day

>>741659928
people estimate at pre-AI prices it would have still been 700 bucks, it would still have been overpriced compared to a 400 bucks switch 2 and 500 bucks ps5

>>741661124
consoles lose hundreds in value due to being locked down cuckboxes you're basically renting

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>>741644719
thermals are good, the entire thing is a heat exchanger

>>741642509
>bro thinks you can use all 500gb of a 500gb HD
over 39 laffs

>>741660251
>after taxes
do amerifats really?
don't forget to tip

>>741659735
anon you can just check it yourself, the base $1049 price does not include the controller

>>741661124
>overpriced
Not by enough to matter. It would have been called the "Valve tax" or something and people would have gotten over it because it can 'do more' (ie. it's an actual computer not just a goybox).
The current gulf in pricing is mainly due to console makers not adjusting their margins, the ratio should be equivalent. They just choose to keep the pricetag low and pray people pay for more games down the road (itself risky for a generation of consoles nearing end of life).
Though who knows what knock on effects this will have. Both Snoy and MicroSlop have consoles coming out next year (or so), but I strongly suspect they won't want to take the haircut to keep prices low when the most sales will happen. So either a shock price raising will happen (where people will start to say "maybe the Gabe-box wasn't so bad), or (my bet) delays of years.

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>>741639304
Most people are still in shock from the economic ass kicking of the coronacaust.

>>741660982
It matters more than you think. A lot of people wont get into the PC market because they see them as giant high maintenance nerd boxes. Making it a sleek tiny zero effort box that emulates a console brings them into the market.

>>741661697
>weaker than PS5 Xbox and twice the price
>Stonger than Switch 2 but no bing bing wahoo and twice the price
Only retards and scalpers will buy this

Should I pay $100 more for a marginally better GPU and DDR5 5600 instead of DDR4 3200? Worth?

is there not a machine to stream my pc from my office to my living room with zero latency?

>>741662118
just use wires bro

>>741638496
Sony wins by doing nothing

It was meant to be $750, which would be a fair price.

>>741639304
you can get 2 switch2's and a game for that li'l niggy.
and yet pc-cucks seethe at that fact.
pipe down faglord

>>741661697
extremely delusional post
the sole fact its not being sold at retailers instantly loses that entire segment of people

>>741662118
Streamlink?

>>741662431
Bro..........young people dont shop for electronics at brick and mortar stores lmao

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It's impressive how fucked everything is.

>>741662398
>you can get 2 pieces of e waste and play at 30fps
ok? what if i want performance higher than a fucking gtx 1050

>>741638496
Why not just buy
>laptop
>external hard drive
>HDMI cord

>>741661124
It would have been pricey at $700 but "I'm too lazy to build my own system so I'll pay the prebuilt tax" pricey, which is fine for most consumers. Now it's just ridiculously overpriced.

>>741640106
>PS5 pro
Fag

>>741662530
Switch 2 is about equivalent to a 2060. It's honestly not even that far off from the Steam Machine's 3060 equivalent, except it's literally half the price and has devs making games specifically for its specs. Unfortunately I don't see anyone making presets for the steam machines.

>>741661916
Youre not really gonna notice the leap between DDR4 and DDR5 for gaming

>>741662493
people who buy consoles pretty much exclusively buys them from retailers
same reason the steam deck didnt sell anything

This entire project was a self inflicted wound. Is valve ok?

>>741661916
DDR5 is only like +5 more fps in games.
It's a good improvement for productivity software but not for gaming.

>>741639304
it's because they're equating it to a console
but also, it is a lot of money

>>741662639
>Switch 2 is about equivalent to a 2060.
lol
the 2060 is roughly 30% more performant than an rtx 3050
and the switch 2 gpu has 60% of the cores of the 3050 with half the clockspeeds

>>741638496
Aussie prices lol
>512gb
$1,609
>512gb w/ Controller
$1,728
>2tb
$2,109
>2tb w/ controller
$2,228

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Its really too bad they were screwed due to AI shit
If this was like $650 it'd be a pretty good deal.

>>741642509
Wukong is ass and overrated, play Wuchang instead

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>>741642509
>over 9000 hours of mspaint just to get the math wrong
you know every year since /v/ started i thought it can't possibly get any worse but every year i get proven wrong...

>>741662861
You also forget that devs are optimizing for it, which is why stuff like DA2 and RE9 can run just fine on it despite it being equivalent to a 2050 as you claim.

For $599 sounds good to me.

>>741639304
it's a lot of money when you compare it to what you get
as it is, it's a pricy living room indie machine with the benefit of being able to launch most of your steam library backlog
sure, there's the nebulous benefit of being a full pc and you can also use a browser or watch youtube with it, but that's not really why you're buying it

>>741652940
Obviously the rich fucks that push AI and not the people using it.

>>741653747
>Laptop
Theres your problem

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>>741659195
ITS A GAMING PC WITHOUT WINDOWS
THAT'S ALL THAT FUCKING MATTERS
FUCK MICROSLOP
FUCK ICK ON ECK
WHERES MY BOX ON BOX

>>741641059
according to LTT about 200 dollars less, so around 800-900
which is still a lot, but a bit more reasonable

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>>741639304

In America, it is. The average American cannot afford a $1000 emergency. Since this is an emergency to them, their stench permeates the walls from their panic.

Me? I’m enjoying the schadenfreude just like I did last year when I bought the Switch 2 and Pro Controller 2 with interest income to the enormous frustration of YouTube.

>>741663135
>optimizing
it's called crushing the settings to absolute fucking shit, way below pc minimum and the game still running at 30fps
console optimization is a myth and if those settings were on pc they would run equally well

>>741640106
they also recently announced Steam OS would work on any system now after the latest update, giving even less of a reason to own one.

>>741663135
By optimizing you mean putting everything on Low and upscaling everything from SD resolutions

>>741662530
>seething steamcuckie
lul
lmao
eat your karma you faggot

>>741663135
>For $599 sounds good to me.
where the fuck are you getting 600 from? it's 450.
500 once september1st hits.

>>741639431
That's under 20k after taxes. How do you even live on that salary? Unless you live with your parents in which case you should have plenty of savings to splurge on tech occasionally.

>>741663370
>>741663574
I mean steam machine is going to be relying heavily on upscalers too so I don't see your point.

>>741663856
He's a leaf. Switch 2 is $650 with the game bundle in Leafland.

>>741663216
You can just install Linux yourself id you dont want windows

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>>741644823
Well Alienware was the one (or one of the ones I'm not sure) making the original Steam Machines.

>>741662530

Switch 2 performs just fine. We don’t have to focus on it like you have to.

I upgraded my old PC to a 2TB NVME, 7800X3d and 4070 Ti Super for $1500 by reusing the PSU and case in 2023/2024. I can't imagine spending almost that much on this piece of shit, holy shit.

>>741664045
your point was claiming optimization is saving the switch
which isn't real, the game is just crushing settings to below pc level
ergo the hardware comparison is fine

>>741664409
imagine paying to get a limited console version of the game that runs at 30fps

>>741664409
It's already struggling to play newer games. No way that toy tablet is lasting another 6-7 years.

>>741664505
So what are you arguing exactly? If the game is "crushing settings to below PC level" then equalizing it with DLSS, getting the exact same performance as Steam Machine with FSR, then what is your point?

>>741664505
>>741664508

I have a $3500 PC right next to the Switch 2 to play PC games with. Not that I do (my Steam library is worth less than $250).

Good luck finding something like Kirby Air Riders or DK Bonanza on your Steam Machine. All I ever see on Steam is slop.

>>741649727
>Why would anyone buy valve's box?
Pcbros

>>741664634
> then equalizing it with DLSS, getting the exact same performance as Steam Machine with FSR, then what is your point?
what fucking nonsense is this?
you're playing at lower settings and you're upscaling and you're still only getting 30fps
that's not the same performance

>>741664668
>i have no standards
ok?

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Here's a build that's 60% more performant yet still cheaper than the 2TB model.

>>741664668
>well I do paid 3.5k for a library of slop
>but I can't find slop like slop
believable...

>>741656818
No, they don't. That's why we import Mexicans. White men will never pay other white men for their work, because they eat each other.

>>741659928
>cheap alternative to consoles
Funny how it turned out to be an Expensive alternative to consoles.

>>741638496
Who is the audience for this?

> anybody who can afford a 1000+ would buy a pc
> anybody who cant would buy a ps5 or xbox.

>>741638496
I remember when retards were saying $300 lmao

>>741664791
>you're playing at lower settings and you're upscaling and you're still only getting 30fps
You really think Steam Machine, equivalent to a 3060, is playing anything at 60fps without crushing it to minimum settings then upscaling? It's not even going to run your typical UE5 slop above 30 lol

>>741664807

I’m actually gainfully employed and use my PC for work.

>>741664791

It’s so much fun watching the seethe over here. Nintendo was a step ahead of all this like usual.

>>741664804
The only thing you can really argue is that it's using a standard tower case whereas the steam machine fits on your shelf. But quite frankly, I do not see why anyone is paying premium for a SFF PC but then going halfway with the specs. SFF is a luxury and you typically go all out on a build to make it sleek and powerful.

>>741664901
yes?
the cube's gpu is 3x more powerful than a docked switch 2

>>741650170
>10x the size of the SM
who gives a shit, unless you live in some shitty shoebox new york apartment you can fit it

>>741639304
When University comes to collect, yea, $1K is a lot at the end of the day.

>>741665027
The argument I've seen in other threads and on reddit is that you can throw it in your backpack and bring it over to a friend's house. But that's a super niche case imo since anyone is going to game online with their friends and if you REALLY have to game in person a steam deck with dock makes more sense. In fact that's what I did with my old rog ally, bringing over a controller and playing PSO together with a friend.

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>>741665038
Nah. You're not hitting 60 fps without crushing down the settings regardless.

if you guys are rich why not just build a better PC and install steamOS on it?

>>741665281
>raytracing ultra
the switch 2 is not running raytracing at all

>>741665365
So your argument for the $1049 steam machine is that it runs better than the $450 switch 2 (both will rely on upscalers regardless)?

>>741665182
>unitoddler is mad he wasted money on adult daycare instead of picking up a trade
LOL

>>741639304
The eternal goy speaks.

>>741665184
>if you REALLY have to game in person a steam deck with dock makes more sense.
The Deck's hardware is old and optimization is not in developer's vocabulary. My interest in the Machine was for this case because the Steam Deck doesn't cut it for more demanding games

>>741665434
i'm making an argument against consoles, not for the steam machine
the fact is that the machine has 3x the gpu performance so the game doesn't need to be fucking babysat into working at all, it can use existing settings
if you were to build a pc yourself you could match the ps5 pro's performance and get a pc that has 5x the gpu performance

>>741665434
The base model is a massive trap. 512GB is not enough for a gaming system. Even without the windows overhead hax (steamos was about 20GB last I checked), you can fit like 2-3 games modern games max on it. I have a laptop with 200 GB and find myself having to constantly uninstall games as I cycle through them. It's an inconvenience no one really talks about. You will want the $1500 version at minimum.

>>741665554
What local multiplayer game are you bringing over to a friend's house that can't run on the steam deck but on the steam machine? Like I guess I can see it if you want to play stuff like MHW in person with your buddies, but that's a niche within a niche within a niche haha

>>741665446
You compete with Mexicans.
I compete with Indians.
I should have the upper-hand.

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>>741661221
LOL

>>741665564
We're not really arguing then. I think the $450 switch 2 is a compelling purchase for its exclusive library and multiplats that you may want to dabble into. If you're obsessed with and going to argue on raw performance, I would say neither are good purchases since at the end of the day upscalers are doing the heavy lifting for them. Build your own PC or wait for deep black friday / clearance discounts on pre-builts.

>You can grab a mini PC without enough power to run all the indie games you want for half the price
>you can get a gaming laptop with a screen, keyboard, touchpad and a battery with a better GPU that costs the same as a steam machine

Who is this for?

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>>741665759
install another OS? you can do that, valve explicitly allows it
you can't do that on consoles because their explicit purpose is to control stupid goyim like you

>>741663979
Why do you assume I pay no bills because I live with my family? I am the sole male in the house.

>>741665851
>>You can grab a mini PC without enough power to run all the indie games you want for half the price
no you cant

If you don't buy it Gaben won't be able to afford another yacht.

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>>741661124
>estimated
There is no estimation Valve TOLD IGN they were going to price it starting at $750

>>741665643
Not so much multiplayer but I bring it over to my sibling's house because she likes to watch me play horror games. I'm limited to older games and emulation. Even some indie games run like shit on it. I'm having to get used to 30 fps again

>>741665762
you have to be a retard to want multiplats on a console, especially nintendo's consoles
not only do you get console lock in but they're also stuck to the lowest value hardware of the generation

>>741662554
hdmi cords give women the ick

>>741665982
What modern horror games are you playing that the steam deck can't run?

And even then if you MUST have something more modern and portable, I advise you to check out the Rog Ally X. It's $800 and has been able to run everything I've thrown at it except unoptimized UE5 games.

Why does valve even care when they have a tax on practically every game that is sold on PC? Or selling hats on CS, dota or tf2? Releasing a couple new hats is way way less riskier and likely more profitable than this gabe cube ever could hope

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>>741661890
>>Stonger than Switch 2

>>741666090
the switch 2 doesn't raytrace you fucking moron, not a valid comparison
the machine has 3x the gpu performance of a docked switch 2

>>741666046
You say that but multiplats sell extremely well on Switch. FF Stillbirth and RE9 are doing great on it.

But the point is that you get the S2 for the exclusives and you can dabble into the third parties if you want. Or you can stick with exclusives and use PC (not steam machine) for everything else.

>>741666059
Been doing RE9 docked and locked to 30. It's playable but doesn't look as great. I haven't even attempted Silent Hill 2 remake and I couldn't get the Fatal Frame 2 remake to run well at all. I'm not interested in another handheld. At this point, I'm considering putting together an ITX pc out of some spare parts. I've estimated the price to be around $600. It won't be as small as the Steam Machine but it'll be a fuck of a lot more powerful

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Juicy 30fps 1080p gaming.

>>741666204
so? idiots can make idiotic purchases, their number doesn't validate it
the switch 2 is objectively a bad value for multiplats

i haven’t caught up with console news because i only have a pc and i live under a rock

has nintendo, sony and microsoft also price matched their console sticker prices with market conditions? or are they bleeding money with every console sale?

>>741666079
Because Microsoft had plans to ban Steam to push their own store more. They are fuming that they don't get any cut of the steam sales.

Valve has been trying to make their ecosystem since then, first switching to Linux and ARM now.

>>741666310
>30fps
on a good day
>1080p
uh akshually human eye can only see 720p now so we are cutting resolution down as well

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>>741663370
>>741663574
lol
do please keep building up bad karma despite a raping this hard

>>741666594
Switch 2 getting KH4, Dragon's Dogma 2, FF Rebirth, Stellar Blade, and Re9 really mindbroke shitposters.

>>741664508
I heard the same about the switch 1 yet it outlived the competition, and still lives.

>>741666243
Steam Machine isn't going to let you run ff2 and sh2 remakes at 60 fps high either so I'm not sure what you're smoking here.

>>741666594
>tendie calling anyone else raped while he's buttmad he's not getting persona

>>741665883
its a semi custom cpu and gpu anon
have fun with the driver issues on windows or even other troonix distros

>>741666758
Persona 5 was a separate announcement btw.

>>741665959
That's still too high for a non-portable comparable to a switch 1.

>>741659605
gonna be real fuck funny when console fags don't buy into it.

>>741666875
you don't understand the first thing about computers do you?
silicon isn't fucking unique, it's based on a specific architecture and that governs what drivers it uses
the steam machine gpu uses the same exact drivers as anything from the rx 7000 series
the 5090 uses the exact same drivers as a laptop rtx 5050
and cpu scheduling is not a problem on w11 or linux

>>741638496
This was always the most retarded of the 3 pieces of hardware they revealed. The inflated pricing because of the ram/nand situation just makes that all the more clear. The Steam Frame was always going to be the most innovative and the Controller was always going to be the most widely used.

>>741666725
Not the point. That's my interest in a small form factor pc. Obviously it's too expensive for what you're getting, hence why I said I'm considering just putting one together on my own

>>741638496
They figured out that the only the most hardcare steamdrones will buy this anyway so they could put whatever price they wanted

>>741663979

I made under 20k and paid rent to my parents for years. It took me like 3 years to build up 15k of savings and even then it was way to expensive to take the next step in my life.

>>741666079
Valve has started phasing out gambling from Counter-Strike and is implementing dynamic pricing instead, with the regulatory pressure in the EU and the lawsuit in NY all gambling mechanics will be phased out of their games, this will impact their revenue

>>741665719
and yet pajeets are still taking your jobs. interesting!