>can't even beat a $600 2020 console >its also half the priceif you buy this you are forever relegated to below subhuman treatment
$340 dollar ps5 slim console, because the steam machine doesn't have a disk drive or controller
oh no, it can't play (normieslop AAA game)how will we ever cope
damn is it garbage, who do they think they are charging that price
>>741640069Now I can spend over twice as much and play roguelitelightlike indie games at 30FPS!
THEY DONT EVEN INCLUDE THE CONTROLLER ON THE CHEAPEST SKU HAHAHAHAHA
>Weaker than an RTX 2070Jesus christ man, this is kind of sad.It would've been tolerable if this was like $600, but at over $1000 this is fucking pathetic.This is clearly just a low-end PC that they're now forced to charge mid-range/high-end prices for.
>>741640069then just play better games on it? what kind of pathetic miserable cope is this? I hope you know the PS5 at half the price can play the same Steam porn shovelware games you like
>>741639876>LTT LabsLMAO
your posts are obvious and reek of desperationwhoever is paying you isn't getting their money's worth lol
>>741640869The playstation doesn't run any of those games at 4k
>>741641250Can you read? neither does the Steam Machine. They both use blurry FSR upscaling.
>>741641250the Playstation is also almost half the price, and comes with a controller
>no controller includedholy jews
>>741639876What the fuck were they thinking? Have the AI oligarchs completely fucked the PC market that much?
embarrassing
>>741642516partially, but "those" kinds of steam user have proven theyre willing to spend any amount on hardware as long as it has the steam logo printed on it so valve's happy to sell it to them while maintaining a high margin
>>741642516PC component prices suck right now, but I think they're still overcharging.I'm sure people will make videos showing that you can get a better performing PC for cheaper than this. I bet the value comes out to around 800 or something like that.
I could have sworn there was a 500+ thread discussing the benchmark results just released by Digital foundry but I can't find it.
>>741641691The PS5 can't even run 20% of the games the Steam Machine can unless you fuck around with it to install Linux.
>>741640184>>741639876You know what the funny thing is, they would have already had contracts in place for components before the us politician started a trade war with china and before the AI bubble began, yet are intentionally trying to grift to jew people out for overpriced mid to low spec parts.Who in their right mind will buy this shit. P|C players already have a PC and could just get a better PC for cheaper.Console players dont need that shit.
>>741639876No one cares about your modernslop games. The Steam Machine was designed to play REAL PC games, like Doom 2 and Starcraft.
>>741639876Buddy it’s the size of a banana
>>741644932Definitely, but mini PCs have always been expensive just because of their size. Compare ITX motherboard to ATX motherboards. An ITX board will cost $400 while the equivalent ATX will be like $150. Going small (while staying powerful) isn't cheap.
>>741648402>mini PCs have always been expensive just because of their sizeLiterally not the case. There have always been periods of time where mini PCs were the best deal you can find at a given price range. This was even the case last year in the $750-$950 range with the minisforum offerings.
>>741649562This. My Mac Mini literally BTFO every single PC on the planet in terms of it's CPU and it cost me $500. Plays CP2077 at a smooth 5K 60fps. Mini PCs are the best bang for your buck possible.
>>741648342and? do you live in a fucking closet or something?
>>741639876Fake graph.Kill yourself lying niggerfaggot.
>>741650686This. I suspect most people are hooking this up to TVs, and a modern TV is 65" or larger. Even with a 27" desktop monitor, there's no point to a mini PC. If space is a concern you'd never buy a desktop, you'd get a laptop.
Can I buy it to resell it for twice the price and buy a 5090?
>>741640069you can play over 1k to play counter strike and dota
>>741639876It's also not locked down to all fuck, but I bet you like wearing a chastity cage
>>741639876>>741640184>>741640370>>741640838I'd rather buy an Xbox Series X at this point.>B-but Sony.No. Not even once. Never ever.
>>741639876>PS5: 75-78 FPS at 4KIn what world does a 1440p Performance Mode on PS5 get counted as 4K? The Steam Machine is actually only slightly lower by that metric. Goddammit Linus not again.
>>741640184I played Dark Ages on Series S and it ran at locked 60fps all the time lol. It also definetly had some settings higher than low preset too. What the actual fuck nigga
>>741653756i dont care nigga, be happy with your purchasewe only clown on fanboy over-spenders here, like steamies and their $1130 cuckboxes
>>741639876>THINK OF THE MARKET, SCHLUB. BUY AT FULL PRICE + TAX.>DON'T THINK ABOUT HOW OTHERS DO IT. THEY'RE GREEDY! NOT US THOUGH, NOPE! NOT AT ALL.
>>741639876>the ps5 outputs 2160p native @ 165hzits literally locked to 60fps in performance mode and 30fps is "quality" lol gabe cube is not limited in anyway. VRR literally limits the fps you disgusting brownoid. at least find a suitable comparison
>>741639876... they tested it on a scripted 4K cutscene? Do you retards think this is an actual test that means anything?Holy shit, if that's the propaganda against the Cube, Valve has already won
>>741653809Upscaling is not considered on console. It is ALWAYS native. Upscaling is a PC exclusive thing when it comes to benchmarks.
>>741654809Technically false. Even if they're not using a DLSS or FSR method, they're still blowing up 1440p to 4K, and potentially using stuff like checkerboard rendering or temporal reconstruction sometimes. It's not the SAME as the upscaling we consider it to be today, but it's still technically called upscaling. So it's literally contrasting the Steam Machine against another machine doing a different method of trying to turn 1440p into 4K, and the performance actually mostly evens out in that perspective.
>>741654809What? Nigger what the actual fuck are you talking about? Overwhelming majority of games nowadays are using upscalers on consoles and base consoles use dogshit old FSR or TAA. Ironically enough Series S versions most often are on native 900P or 1080P at 30FPS while even PS5 PRO goes from like 1080P with PSSR to 4k lmao.
>>741647952Which components are made in China, retardanon?
>>741649728If I bought a specced out mac mini, and then dualbooted into windows/linux would that be an alright "gaming" pc? I know linux is better for these purposes, I'm just asking to try and figure out where the baseline is and understand how hard valve fucked up
>>741640069Why would you spend over a 1000 dollars to play indie games, any old laptop can do that
>>741657207Windows does not work on Arm Macs. Neither does Linux except for one specific distro. Macs are absolute garbage for gaming, but the few games they can run, they run extremely well.
>>741657353The same reason people buy modern nintendo consoles, to virtue signal and support their favorite billionaires, god forbid they can't afford another yacht next year
>>741657480The switch 2 is like 400 bucks and handheld
>>741657430Give it 2-3 years until native/translated ARM gaming is a real thing, Nvidia is already going balls deep on the architecture and every company on the tech world has to suck them dry to get that easy moneythose $200-$300 android handhelds are already emulating Linux on ARM, the future is now
How many times do you have to get told this, IT'S NOT MADE FOR YOU RETARD
>>741657430Damn I'm super out of date, my only recent relevant mac experience is my daily driver macbook from 2019. This might be a retarded question, but do you think the new windows ARM 11 branch work on the m series chips in the future, or is there just too many hurdles there despite them both being arm based?
>>741657582It MacOS still supported eGPUs like the Intel ones did it would be GOAT. They already got it working under Asahi Linux. It's all on Apple now, nobody makes better CPUs than them, but the support isn't there.
>Its worse than a PS5 Lmaooooo>$1000AHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>741657704>do you think the new windows ARM 11 branch work on the m series chips in the futureThe reason you cannot run Windows on an Arm Mac is due to Microsoft's agreement with Qualcomm. They intentionally lock it out. You can virtualize Windows on an Arm Mac no problem via Parallels or VMware Fusion. Many games even run well on it.
>>741639876can i install arch on a ps5real questionI am trying to brainstorm "alt" pc ideas for the future when I need to replace mine but won't be able to afford top of the like hardware.
>>741657721a Macbook/MacStudio with M5/M6 Max will run circles around any PC by end of this year, anyone investing heavily into x86 right now is retarded UNLESS it's a Strix Halo machine specifically specced out to run local LLMs on Lemonade>gamesIt will solve itself in time, like I said keep an eye on the Android/Qualcomm handhelds, I expect Nvidia to come out with a Spark handheld variant in the future just out of pure fuckery, also both PS6 and Xbox will have handhelds so I think those will be perfect companions to Macbooks without access to certain games
>>741658058If Gabe wasn't so pissy about Apple dropping 32-bit support, we could've had functional Proton on Mac by now. It was happening right until they did that.Such a shame since Valve jumpstarted gaming on Intel Macs after PowerPC's depreciation left so many classic Mac games to rot.
>>741640069Great, so you'll buy it to play random indie slop and get updoots on reddit I assume? $1400 well spent
>>741640069I can already play indie games on my PCYou are retarded. End your life braindead shill
>>741639876Can you link where that console can be found for $600?
>>741639876The problem with buying Playstation is you are at the mercy of Sony's censorship and DRM whims. Not a good idea.
>>741658621You also have to pay monthly online for anything not F2P, so a year on the smallest plan is like $110 USD. Even if you buy a PS5 for $650 right now with disk drive, that's now $760 in a year and growing with time. You could cut the price down for a fully digital version, but some people still appreciate physical media more. Linux lacks a lot of anti-cheat support, but for the games you can play online you won't have to pay a single extra cent beyond your net provider or for MMOs with subs.
>$1400 >No GTA6 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>741642415Nearly all of you already own an Xbox controller or some cheap Chinese knockoff. Removing the controller means they can save you money if you don't need it.
>>741640069>how will we ever cope You're coping right now lol
>>741639876at least said person would be smarter than one buying said console with literally no games
>>741639876>>741640184lmaoing at these niggers posting these frames at those resolutions, the machine is meant to be played at 1080/1440. find a stream showing 8k frames if you really want to shitpost about single digit frames
>>741660246>smarternobody is smarter for buying a difference piece of garbage
>>741660402didn't know normies (the target audience) still had 1080p TVs on their living rooms, specially in the only countries where you can buy Steam hardware
>>741640069You could just buy a cheap computer if all you want to do is play shit from pre 2020
>>741640838>my 3080 is still in the upper 50% for performance despite being nearly 6 years oldlmao what the fuck have we been doing for the last half decade? at this point i won't need to upgrade until 2030.
>>741647952Those "contracts" you speak of are typically on a rolling basis that has to be renewed every year or so. The idea is that they don't want to be locked in if prices trend downward like they normally do. They got fucked just like everyone else by the AI scammers.
>>741660402People are not going to want to play games at an antiquated resolution like FHD on their new 2026 game system.
>>741660710Rasterization improvements largely died out beyond raw performance numbers, in favor of RT cores and AI
>>741661261it shit i shut off in nearly every game at this point and i don't play shit past 1440p anyways. every industry is fucking stagnant and the games are reflecting it too.
