Just started Chapter 2 on hard ironman. Scared as fuck.
>>741641448Give this mod a try, anonhttps://github.com/kirides/GD3D11
better 2 remake have in extremo, it slaps
Anal sex with Mud
>Ball licker goes mad and tries to kill the hero>defeat him>wElL tHat just hApPendWHY YOU MOORS
Been a while since I played the OG Gothic but can you not dodge animal attacks by backstepping like you do in the 2nd game? I remember not taking any damage from snappers by back stepping during their attack animation, swinging a few hits and repeat.
>>741642103yeah, that was 2 thing, in 1 you still get hit
>>741641739you know why they call him mud right?
>>741642179damn, what do i do then? holding right click and going sideways?
>>741641448>ironmanbased>hardI thought Gothic 2 didn't had difficulty settings, no?
>>741642310honestly I can't remember, get more agressive so you stun them? I think that worked for me. Or dodge back and hope their attack won't reach
>>741642029Spaniard here, please understand that the sort of jokes you anglo speakers have already gotten tired of only become popular in Spain with several years of delay because fucking nobody here speaks english.
>>741641687This one is pretty good but I disabled HBAO++
>>741642424this was supposed to be a remake bread but I forgot to put that in the subject. yea, there's no difficulty settings.>>741641687I did play with that once. It was cool.
>>741642029>destroy the barrier>"Ummm... did I do that?"
>>741642310nothing you can really do reliably other than train your weapon skill
>>741642029>roight, let's see, roight... where did I?... yeah roight... I can't see... ohhh now that's bettah... all roightSay thank you.
>>741641448I've heard many anons and even the devs say that the dragons in G2 were a mistake but if that is true, how should the moors improve them?
https://youtu.be/Rm2p7vIoJYMpeak comfyMUCHA CHA
>>741641448do these games run well on modern machines out of the box
>>741644189Make them dragons but give them army of darkness.
>>741644363You mean they should just add more Liggers?
>>741644354youre gonna wanna use the systempack
>>741644354I just installed the first game yesterday and it does. On Steam you can switch the game version to the Workshop version, install Union patch via workshop and voila.I also installed GD3D11 via workshop for better visuals.
>>741644661If you play g2 you should also use Nostalgia mod
>>741644189They're dragons by name but they're essentially demons of beliar. They should run more freely with the idea rather than the usual DnD flying lizard crap.
>>741644189Would be fun if the battles had more sequences and were unique to each boss. Like Sleeper in the remake.
>>741644836What does it do? I only played the Gold version a few times via SystemKit & PlayerBack only.
>>741644843That makes sense. They can also just skip the whole "talk to the dragons" bullshit since it added nothing to the game.>>741644956A bunch of small things, basically it keeps things as close to the og as possible but adds a bunch of polish and QoL things. For example if wanna play mage Mana no longer needs exponentially more LP to acquire.
>>741644456>>741644661cheers
How much faster is Master archery? I'm not sure if I should grab that or 20 more Dex. I can't find any good bows tho.
>>741644189I'd rather have no dragons or have them less important. Like idk they are controlled by dark mages who happen to be ex brotherhood gurus
>>741645671forgot the pic. I managed to nab a longbow off Mordrag, but it's only got 40 damage.
>>741644354on steam yeah, I only happened to have mouse not work in archolos for some reason but I fixed it somehow
Whoever said during the weekend thread that Longsword from underwater cave near the Skeleton mage caves and shipwrecks is no longer there in 1.0.7 was full of shit.It's still there and there's a chest you don't need to pick with steel bar, ruby gold and some nuggets too.
>>741644189The issue is that they're lame to fight.The other issues they have are tied to the retcons making Beliar a boring evil god and all which comes with it.
>>741645885It's for new games, loot gets loaded when you create games, that's why I could loot Gomez chest on chapter 3 yesterday.
got Uriziel and now exploring the map doing whatever quests i have leftcan anybody tell me about some missions that i should know about? because running around the whole map talking to every single NPC could be quite time consumingalready killed everyone in the Old Camp (except Thorus, he's alright in my book) and im heading to old Xardas' tower to get items, but what more can i do on this playthrough?
>>741644354The GOG version comes with Union already installed.If you want DX11 it requires an extra step but that's completely optional.
>>741644189keep dragons but just improve the boss fights in generalmake it more souls-like or whatever, you know what i mean. dragons were bad because fights were fucking awful, if they make fights interesting then dragons won't be a issue
>>741646210You can exterminate the bandit camp if you like
Man, the fully upgraded templar armor is pure sex
>>741646314That could work especially if they add more things in the area of the dragons, like semi-natural dungeons we have to fight our way through
>>741646210There's not that much quests outside of camps in G1, G2 has them everywhere.
Can I play Gothic 1 on Steam 'eck?
>>741646410No I really loved hiking up the volcano to get to the dragon, only to get punched in the face by a golem and sent flying
>playing Archolos>doing a mission to move crates from the port>save right before both npcs get on the boat>as saving finishes one of the npcs gets catapulted from the boat onto deep water
>get told orc weapons are bad>bullying skeletons in the sleeper temple with the orc mace
>>741645879>>741646309good to know thanks bros
>play hardcore mode>die>press alt+f4>restart game and continue the runnice game hardcore babs
>>741645671If you can find your way up to the cave above the beach near swamp camp, you'll find something nice up there.And something not so nice too, but you can avoid them.
>>741646502*stunlocks you to the death*nothing personel, kid
>>741647618>ice lance x 3Were you even trying?
>>741647074Any... safer options for people on ironman?
>>741646397why are you homo
Anyone else notice that Xardas has the Claw of Beliar at the end? Pretty cool.
>>741647987There's a guy at the shore by the lakeside bar, and he can make you a fairly decent bow if you bring willow or oak wood to him.
>>741648192He can but I think only if you have some basic training in bows.
>>741647618still better than the G1 version, they hit you once and you were stunlocked while burning to death in a second
>>741646196>It's for new gamesI started the game 2 hours ago.
>>741648283Gonna have to have a chat with Cavalorn in that case?
>the economy system goes both ways>trying to buy large amounts of goods will increase their pricebull.shit.
>>741646196>>741648292Forgot to say that other changes like +1 STR potion from shipwreck hanged man pirced by Scepter is patched out
>he posted in 17 times in every single Gothic thread that appeared on /v/>he's been doing it for more than a week straight
>>741648130Because of Gorn
>>741648643Ummm, based?
>>741648643I honestly don't understand how anyone thinks this game is woke when it let's you stomp whores to death while their knickers are on displayGuess they just do what their influencers tell them to do and never ever play videogames
>>741648331I had like 20 templar swords to sell, not an issue
>>741649247based
>go to graham to buy paper for the first rune quest>tell him I need paper>check trade paper costs 16 ore>reload save and go straight into trade without mentioning needing paper>it costs 14 orethe level of detail is insane
>>741649686I will play their kike games because I know I will eventually slaughter the entire camp.
>741649374>game is censored = game is wokeGet better talking points.
>>741649686That sneaky little shit
>>741648435cute low poly women
>>741641448I have the GOG version, v1.08k or some shit, installed once, and as soon as I got in (past the intro vid, into the main menu) I tried changing the video settings (res) and it goes black. Now no matter what I do, delete the .ini, reinstall, restart PC, it just goes black. Fucking uninstalled it. Win 11. I downloaded some Union patch or something but I didn't work, IDK if it's for my version or whatever. Put me off from trying it. Same shit with Deus Ex and the fucking text / UI scaling. Garbage. VTMN was great though, the Unofficial Patch works wonders.
>>741641448I'm trying to play Gothic 1 but it goes to a black screen when clicking new game. I thought this game came prepatched. What's going on?
>>741650057https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Series:Gothic
>>741648192damn, those are garbage. 30 or 34 damage depending on the wood.
>>741648435Yeah, its total bull shit like a whole remake, turn based combat, end game items within first 3 hours of game, illogical (dumb as fuck) changes in narrative & characters, many, many bugs and brand new empty locations... more than 7 years in development btw but I guess its fine cause new graphics or somethingOh and of course they had to censor sketch too because we can't have tits in 18+ game...
>>741650057>GOG version, v1.08kTry to install Union Primary Universal and then Union 1.0m.
>>741650368You can get them quite early as long as you learn basic archery. He also does a petrified bow but I doubt you'll find it.
>>741650368Considering you don't pay shit to get them, they are great early game.
>>741644021God even with the marvel writing at times I'm so relieved we didnt get this shit>rought yeah... wot the bloody ell happened here.... wlrst prison evah mate...
>>741650536I was wondering if he'd do anything with Ironwood or the Petrified one.
>>741650670Just willow, oak and petrified iirc
>>741650667Yes, it's very sobering to think about it.Could it be better? Oh, for sure and quite easily as well.Could it be worse? No need to speculate, we know.
>>741642029It's just a bit of shitty writing in what is otherwise a decent script.
>>741651234shitty piece of english writing, the german version has no marvel quips
>innos is the god of fire, light and humanity>orc shamans all sling fireballsexplains, lorefagswhy would Innos be okay with the servants of his enemy using his magic?
>>741651364English Gothic will always be cursed.
>>741651416It is granted by Beliar to spite Innos and his servants, also budget limitations
>>741651364how's Xardas' demon in German? Polish was also solidly written with the sole exception of him spewing sarcastic quips.
>>741651416All magic is Innos' magic.Beliar is Innos. Adanos is also Innos. Everything is Innos.>his enemyDumbfucktardation of Gothic 2 was a mistake.
>>741651546Oh he flat out talked like a damned hair dresser, skipping all his lines in the future.
>Mud can actually join the Swamp Camp if you leave him alone for long enough.Huh.
>>741651604Which one of those gods was a girl?
>>741651694Is that an og thing too?
>>741651768None
>>741651546He sounds like a bored accountant. They put a filter over his voice with the last patch but he's still a bored accountant demon. The German dub is really low quality in a lot of places. The hero constantly sounds like he's yelling but can't actually raise his voice because it'd wake up his parents. A lot of the sillier and over the top lines got rewritten to be more down to earth, but a lot of the iconic humor died with that. It wasn't until the sleeper temple where the hero has a really wacky talk with a crazy templar that he made me laugh.
>>741651812>Nah dann geh ich halt>Obwohl nee
>>741651812really wish they got new VAs for the hero. I get that getting the old ones gets you big nostalgia points but fuck me are they old.
>>741651781Nope. In the OG he usually gets killed off by other Old Campers.
>>741651812>>741651546It is canonically correct to play with Polish dub.
>>741651768well, if you believe Arcania, Adanos is actually a girl
>>741651924It's not a problem of age but of direction and writing.I do agree, however.
>>741651924In the german version it's less that he got old and more that he has no idea what he is doing. He was also winging it 20 years ago but this time somebody tried to teach him something about voice acting and it made him worse.
>>741651694wait so if I have only beaten him he won't give me quest?
The skill points are so sparse on hard. Really gotta minmax if you don't wanna die. I'm putting all i've got into combat.
>>741653109They are sparse but I just don't like how easy it is to steamroll by chapter 3 on Gothic diff
>have to waste 20 fucking LPs on inscription and alchemy to join the water magest-thanks I guess
>>741653109I'm currently wondering if I should go master lockpicking or mald each time I get harder lock
>>741653385I really can't imagine even tier 1 being worth it on hard. Even with locks giving XP.
>>741653295you can brew permanent stat potions later down the line, so it's not a total waste. mana potions also don't need super rare stuff. I managed to craft like 50 of them in my mage run
>>741653295Alchemy is worth it, you can save a fortune on making potions instead of buying them like a plebe. Also you later learn to make stat increase potions too.
It's such a shame how bandit armors look great but mercenary armor looks like shit.
>>741653594I like the merc armor but overall the designs of all armors are just boring compared to the og
I still can't get over the "new" Polish Xardas.He's still voiced by the same guy, Tomasz Marzecki, but he sounds very different and not just because he's 80 now. It's almost as if he forgot how to sound like Xardas, because his tone is completely off.
>>741652017Back in the day lots of people believed that Xardas was Adanos.
>>741653483I'm in middle of chapter 2 and it's easy unless I go somewhere where I'm not meant to yet and I don't even have 50 strenght
>>741653819It just sounds like he's straining all the time.
>>741653819I like how he sounds 140 years old and about to diefits Xardie
I can't get over how shit new intro isI won't forgive them is they butcher the absolute hype 2 intro is
>>741654107I prefer the og one. That dude both looked and sounded like he could rip an arcane tome in half with his bare hands.
>>741645107>skip the whole "talk to the dragons" bullshit since it added nothing to the gamethey're clearly trying to integrate the lore from all 3 games into something more cohesive, so Beliar is also interested in the Hero becoming his champion, which could make dragon dialogue more interesting.
>>741654416If they keep their tism up they might be able to do it.
>>741654210They already have a good template for it.https://youtu.be/C1UzC4u0ks8?is=neF-iifG2nDTdHVj
I can't believe they skipped the Hero shooting lightning out of Uriziel in the final cutscene. That shit was so cool.
I want to play gothic 2 after the remake. Should I go for it or wait for them to remake the second game? Will it be difficult to get into?
>>741654210>starts with xardas standing at his table in his tower>camera slowly moves towards him as the narrator (whos totally not xardas) explains how the hero defeated all his enemies, except one... the mighty falling rock>BRING ME THE DAMN HERO>throws the head of a lizardman at the camera>epic 1 minute fight sequence of random militiamen dabbing on dragons and lizardmen>next scene xardas, saturas and lester are drawing a pentagram on the floor>xardas starts the summoning with a fat blunt in his mouth>ALTHOUGH WEAK AND WITH AMNESIA>HE HAS BEEN RETURNED>summoning ends, hero falls to the ground>lester with the summoning circle behind him looks at the camera, smirks, and says "he's right behind me, isn't he?" before lighting another joint
>>741654967Play it now and the re-enjoy it in the remake. It's not hard to get into, just do some basic research on lvl system and decide what playstyle you're going for.
>>7416549671. We don't if we'll even get G2 remake.2. It'll take a while to develop it.Just play it now. You'll be fine.
>>741655143>>741655170Thanks guys. Any mods I should be looking at in terms of visual updates or should I just go vanilla?
>>741654986>epic 1 minute fight sequence of random militiamen dabbing on dragons and lizardmenYou just but G2 already had random mercs dabbing on dragons and lizardmen
>>741655724Nostalgia Mod since it's just one big polish with some additions. Also improves on several textures
>>741655724You might want to check on some stability fixes, because the game can be quite unstable on W11.Scary, distorted sounds are the least of its problems.
>>741655870the dragonhunters are mostly incompetent retards. Only Cipher and Rod manage to slay a dragon, and only because the hero is there with the eye of innos to make it vulnerable.
>>741655959>the dragonhunters are mostly incompetent retardsThis.>dragon hunters>hunt the grand total of 0 dragons
I just met Gomez for the first time. All I'll say is damn, Gomez is a real piece of shit. Everyone fears him, which is why it's no surprise they all fall in line.
>>741657073Bro, wait until he gives you actual reasons to hate him.
>>741657161
>>741655724UnionD3D11 Renderer4 GB PatchTexturepack my ArtemianoI guess the texture pack is not essential, the rest is for stability and compatiblity for modern systems.
Give your shadowbeast a smooch. Seriously, NPCs have zero reaction to a monster running up to them at full speed.
>>741657549Well that's a downgrade. They used to freak out when you approached them while polymorphed.
>>741657549I've had mixed reactions. It's like a 50/50 chance that nobody notices a swampshark crawling into the middle of Swamp Camp, or suddenly everyone starts freaking out with some people running away and some fighting it.
>>741644189Remove health regen. Give each one an unique fight.
>>741657802>>741657549well then that's why remakes are demakesplay the original26 year old code still holds more merit than what spainards did
>>741658285Braaaaaap *sniffff*
>>741658643how the fuck did you know that i farted irl?i am god complex confirmed
Were you guys aware that NPCs play their instruments in tune with the game's regular background music? Never seen that in any game before.
I just remembered that I tried to make a mod tier list template ages ago because all the tier lists were in Polish. But I lost interest because our threads would always die after, like, 30 replies.Anyway, would anyone be interested in me finishing it this time?
>>741659843I just want to know what the swords and sandals thing is about
>>741659843archolos would be s tier if it had some fucking english voice actingand no that AI generated english voice mod doesnt count
>>741660320I was surprised to hear that some people don't mind the polish VA.
>>741648146wait wtfis that before he teleports?
>>741659946Well, it takes place in the Swords & Sandals universe, hence the name, but I have no idea what that is. You play as Romulus, the sole survivor of his village, who sets out on a quest for revenge against King Rezenhart. The mod is up to 20 hours long and features side quests, multiple arenas, plenty of new items, an original soundtrack, and new worlds. You basically start out as a piss-poor meat shield, but fight your way up through the arena, gaining more and more prestige and facing harder battles. Haven't played it myself tho only watched a review
>>741660506not the actual Xardas. the nightmare one in the sleeper boss fight. makes you wonder tho.
>>741659394Yes, in BG3 at several moments.
>>741659843Why did Gothic hit so hard with slavs and krauts? It doesn't seem like a particularly moddable game and the mechanics don't seem like nothing to write home about.
>>741659843I played most of them so maybe. Arkona would be somewhere in the middle tier.
>>741660320It already is S tier if you're not a bitch
>>741654967iirc the D3D11 mod works a lot better with II than I combat has no rolls and attacking requires you to stop for a moment so it migh feel limited after the remake but it's very similar stillyour faction matters more in II so a second playthrough is more justiifedhence i recommend that you play vanilla first
>walk up to guard/merc/bandit>aim heavy crossbow(aquired from one such guard) at their head>pop>free exp and lootis there many things immune to pierce damage? i heard about golems and my past light crossbow encounter with landshark didn't go so well. wondering if i should dip some str or magic as an emergency option
>>741661150golems are about all. pierce (aka point) damage is otherwise surprisingly potentit especially wrecks lurkers
>>741657549pretty sure i got stomped on as a meatbugwhat was disappointing for me is that predators don't react to carcasses anymorethat was a legit gameplay element in the OGs
>>741641448Non Gothic player here, what's the deal with this screenshot? Why is it always posted when Gothic is mentioned? It's pretty unremarkable.
>>741661579they dothe rideable scavenger in particular has a bad habit of running right over to munch on a wild animal you just killed. even when youre busy trying to kill a bunch of others that were with it. and then getting hit by a wide attack from somethingitll even run over to cannibalistically munch on other scavengers lol
>>741661692its from gothic 2 and the dude in the front is an iconic and very particular kind of enemy that shows up to fuck with you regularly after certain chaptersEVERYONE who played gothic 2 remembers these guys since their encounters are pretty dope
>>741661692it's just a meme around here, character on a bridge facing the camera = Gothic
>>741659843I am
>>741661692that's just my boy Lester
one swamp guy gives weed again to sell in new camp but other weed gatherer only asks for 50 ore again and misses dialogue to give himnow I'm missing 19 weeds and I don't know from where should I get it
>>741661579>use the meatbug scroll to try and move past thorus without being attacked>he stomps on me
>>741661771that's weird, i was deliberately looking for animals munching on carcasses and i've never found one>killing wild scavengers in front of your scavengeryou monster
I’m glad some of you are interested. I’ll check if I missed any entries and clean up a few logos that are too small to read. Then I’ll post the template probably, in the next thread Here’s my tier list, by the way, in case anyone is curious. Take a wild guess who took S-tier.
>>741661840fun fact: they are remnants of gothic sequel
>>741663382have you tried L'Hiver DE?
>>741663496Ah shit, you reminded me there are like four different versions, aren’t there? Well, I can’t remember which one I tried. All I remember is that I loved the environment changes but hated the balance changes.
>>741663787yeah, I think the original one was the one with fucked up balance, same with returning where original was masochistic and people just made new versions for normal people
>>741645820why do shadows now look like they belong to the school of the wolf?
>>741660647I hate the swamp. It's so, swampy, and the swampweed smoke is everywhere.
>>741648435>Og Gothic: cozy >Remake Gothic: vile
>>741648395Bullshit I drank that potion last week
>>741664472Nice to visit for the free weed, wouldn't wanna live there
Man I don't know what camp to join, I'm wondering if sneak and pickpocket are good skills to spend LP into for some loot and New Camp seem like the optimal route for some dickassery. WeedCamp seems comfy though
>>741663302its not like i WANT to kill scavengers they just attack me on their own
>>741660720It's one of the few games I can play in German without dying from cringe.Dialogues are down to earth and not as stuck up as they are in most other games, especially translations.I heard the voice acting is one of the main reasons it's so popular in Poland too. It's just nice to play a game in your native language and it doesn't sound as if it was written by a teenager trying to impress his middleschool teacher.Concerning mods I guess it's not as easily moddable as TES with its creation kits, but there are several full conversion mods that have as much content as a full RPG so there is potential.
>>741665872new camp is objectively the best camp to join in both a narrative and gameplay sense, but pickpocketing is worthless as a skill
>>741646528Holy shit was doing the same quest today, saved and loaded to see all guard dialogue and both NPCs refused to move after.
>get fuck off with a number of the npcs>getting unrealistically angry but i'm near the end of the game so fuck it, lets see it through>beat game>reload a hard save i'd made>proceed to spend the next 30 mins so killing every motherfucker that I can in each and every camp>especially xardas for his attitudeMy rage knew no bounds, my fury no limits and my will no survivors. By the time I was done the bodies were stacked 10 high at every chokepoint.
>>741668534what could have possibly made you so angry anon
>>741668674A number of bugs related to npc pathing and dialogue triggers that just sent me over the edge. A random example is at the big ore pile convincing saturas that i'm legit and no need for violmce. Dialogue plays out that he agrees, I get the cutscene where I supercharge the sword and when gameplay resumes milten starts a convo but saturas aggros causing milten to break and fight him but i'm stuck immobile. I reload, do the same thing again and then saturas throws lighting at me mid teleport so that glitches out leaving me softlocked and needing to reload AGAIN.Or cor kalom getting stuck in the temple whatever you have to escort him through earlier on. I just kept hitting these bugs. I apparently got locked out of one quest because a skellie mage is meant to drop a book which causes the mission to start but nope, that never happened. By the time I saw the sleeper off I had had enough.
>>741668674murdering everyone in the colony towards the end of the game is a time-honored tradition in Gothic
>>741668910yeah i got that bug with saturas too, everyone is bitching about that. sucks.
>>741641448I love this game but the Dragon fights are genuinely dogshit (in melee)What the fuck were they thinking?
>>741669790the problem was that they werent, anonthat said, nether were you. in a low-fantasy setting, what in the fuck made you think that attacking a giant armored flying firebreathing lizard with a sword was a good idea?anyone who thinks about it for even a moment will realize they need a big fucking crossbow to even trouble such a creature
>wizard casts flak
Thread was comfy until the remake hating schizos arrived
>>741659843>>741660320One of my favorite parts of the gothic games is the shitty english voice acting it adds so much character and charm to the games. Do any of these mods manage to match the original english voice acting in terms of how cheesy and stupid they were?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LN9f7_BMPo
>play rem acke>joined swamp people, now in ch3 collecting five funkos.>not sure why, i didn't like their camp and story wise doesnt make sense>forever branded as a "weirdo cultist">doesnt even look like theres much to do in the camp after initial questsShoulda've joined old camp for fire mages like i wanted originally...and that Melvin guy is pretty cool. Also feels like two handed weapons are a scam but im locked in now.
>>741672887All gigachads fight dragons with swords.I've never seen a depiction of Siegfried/Sigurd fighting one with a ranged weapon.
>>741642029he monologues in original too after killing that guy. I dont remember the exact line but it was something like "what the hell was that? he went crazy!"
>>741642310forward step side attack
>>741642298Cause he's got his pride, he drinks his wine?
>>741674487they should have re-used the gothic 1 voices and NOTHING will convince me otherwisethe game would be 100% more soulful if they had
>have to fight through the sleeper's temple a second timeI should have expected this shit jesus
>>741676528yeah but its a straight shot and death to the undead still absolutely romps everything in there.assuming you have the mod to make magic great againwhich you should have
>>741669098just the old camp
>>741676974>magecels
The torch shit is probably the dumbest shit I've seen a game. You dropping your torch for every little action is tedious as hell and the ""balance"" excuse is stupid because you can pick up the fucking torch anyway. D
Thinkin bout pirating this, sounds like it's a good game but I don't have the money right now, worth it? Are the controls changed from the original game? I didn't mind them too much after I got used to it but I wouldn't mind a more typical one either.
>>741680539Worth what? you're about to play it for free.
>>741669098i love how game updates every named character in glossary when you kill him, and then you can just scroll through it to see your remaining targets
>>741680539Controls are pretty similar to modern games, you can walk and strafe around like in modern games, dodge is a seperate button now.Also ranged combat is no longer autoaim but similar to modern TPS shooter gameplay and requires you to aim.
>>741665307>last weekMe too, but it's not there todayCorpse has still Scepter but hand is empty.According to Reddit it wasn't removed, just relocated together with handful of other perma potions.
>>741680678time is finite, you pay with things with more than money>>741680875Sounds pretty good
>>741647015You're a fucking retard and dishonest piece of shit to boot.There's no way for devs to prevent cheaters like you from doing save backups or cloud saves if you're on console.Why would you even bother cheating like that for 30+ hours dumbo?Just pop the achievement with SAM and be done with it.tl;dr It's an honor thing but cheater bitch like you wouldn't get it
>>741664472You could run the engine fixes to remove that UE antisoul gas like most of us, and the swamp area looks way better. Along with almost every single other area. There's probably many mods on Nexus by now that do the same. I had to fix that 15 minutes into starting the game. Terrible.
>fuck up Lefty's water quest duel, get beaten close to death>while he squats by my KO-ed body rummaging through my belongings he mumbles>''mages are going to like this''>write it off as him paying tithe to blues or something like that>bastard got all of my ore but didn't touch my longsword or mace>it's ok, I can salvage this >THIRSTY FARMERS QUEST FAILED>or not>continue as penniless bum with bruised ego>get dam builder's quest to kill the lurker>find the beast and go to inventory to equip my firebolt rune>it's not there>so that's what Lefty meant >still have 10 LP unspent>learn acrobatics>lie to new mine foreman to get ''armor''>get back to Lefty hoping he still has my shit>barely manage to beat his ass this time>get my firebolt rune back together with all of his gear as payback>talk to Lefty and mock him>QUEST COMPLETE: THIRSTY FARMERSDidn't know quest can be unfucked like that, I just wanted my fire bolt rune back.
redpill me on Gothic 3.I've played the trilogy many times (G1/G2 NOTR/Archolos) a couple times along with the new remake, but I've never even bothered to install G3 let alone look into it being shitposted into oblivion everywhere. Does it actually suck, or does it just suck next to G1/G2? Is it functional? A lot of cut content? Why does it suck exactly?
>>741683421Music and world exploration are praised but everything else, the factions, the character models, the story etc are trash. You might have the tism for it but chances are you will not enjoy G3.
>>741681647What I found more curious is why he bothers to jump through the extra hoops, since permadeath isn't actually permadeath. You're allowed to load your last save if you die, it's actually just ironman mode. The primary effect is you can't reload after your plan fails and an NPC takes 80% of your belongings, that's about it.
>>741683361If you really deliver the water he's gonna making you his bitchboy to deliver water. The only way to finish the quest is to beat his ass. Also fighting human enemy is easy, if you warry about dodge then just keep your guard up. Enemy AI usually winded up after 2 attack and that's your chance to strike after blocking their strike
>>741683536Yes, this is what I've gathered over the 10 years or so of knowing about this series. Perhaps someone can go a little more in-depth on this, I cba to watch a 3hr youtube essay.
>>741683719>since permadeath isn't actually permadeath. You're allowed to load your last save if you die,Not anymore.It works like intended after patch 1.0.7.Your save don't get deleted but your profile frame gets a little skull picture on top when your character dies and you can't continue anymore.
If I play 2 what faction should I pick? Mage seems more trouble than its worth
>>741683761Usually I don't have much trouble fighting humans, before going to NC I already beat OC arena ace.But I got cocky after taking half of Lefty's HP, ate 2 mace strikes without no armor, only +10 defense ring equipped, so it was a quick KO.
>>741684064Templar is canon
>>741684162Sure but I heard NOTR is some hardass optimization bullshit, I'd like to be as strong as possible
>>741684331Well if you're worried about your build then just go dex, archery is strong and there are some very powerful 1h swords that just on dex too.
>play gothic 1>have fun >play gothic 2 notr after>drop it from the excessive minmaxing necessary someday I should go and play normal gothic 2 I guess
>>741684686>drop it from the excessive minmaxing necessarySkill issue. G2 is peak comfy
>>741684686what do you mean, you don't enjoy hitting someone 20 times for 1% of health each and then hitting him twice with crits to kill him?
>>741646528>only polish or russian voiceslmao pass I'm not playing this shit without english voices
>>741684950Play with polish dub like a man, its a great mod
>>741684418but melee weapons always scale off of str even if their requirement is dex
>>741684686G2NotR is very manageable if you like cheese. Aside of bullshit dragons that cannot be killed in any other way than spawning a demon with demon scroll (demon is generally more powerful than a dragon, kek), I'd say the general balance around ordinary areas is pretty well done, and in Jharkendar it's pretty much spot-on. If you know gothic combat, give it another shot someday and just buy a bunch of random scrolls for tricky situations, it's really better than you'd initially think. Also, go to Jharkendar as soon as possible, overall game difficulty got cranked up because this area develops your character at insane pace and can be played through with a very weak/early character.if you still hate it, it's fine, but I really think it's worth to be a bit maso so you can enjoy G2 with the addon. Game feels kinda dry without it.
>>741685283You could just play NotR how you want and if you really need some stats you can just use Marvin once or so.
>>741685283Any advice to getting past the difficulty hurdle people are complaining about?
>>741685283>if you like cheeseI don'tmy autistic brain refuses to cheese fights because it's not fair for enemies
...I lost my Chapter 2 saves and now I have to start all over again. AAAAAAAAA.Question: if joining the New Camp, can you now directly join the Water Mages, or do you still have to do that awkward Join the New Camp>Join the Fire Mages for some reason>Join the Water Mages song and dance?
>>741685967No fire mage dance but you can only join them in chapter 3 after becoming a merc and doing a mission or two for Lee.
>>741684064Easy:>Guards/paladins for noobs who don't know what they're doing>Mages for minmaxing tryhards>Mercs for nostalgic boomersTake your pick.
>>741685389Exactly the same as in Gothic 1.>Stick to safe areas, do easy quests for xp>Train one-handed up to trained>Get 10 str or dex>Find a 20 str/20 dex one-handed weaponYou're done, now you can kill every field beast on Khorinis.
>>741686189Hey what a coincidence I'm a noob and I don't know what I'm doing!!
>>741686278>see that orc? You can kill it if you spend 10 minutes wailing on it while not getting hit once, enjoy!!
>>741686331Do you also expect to be able to kill an orc in chapter 1 in G1?
>>741686289If you played G1 then playing Paladin in G2 has some great moments with Lares and other old friends just piss themselves laughing when they see you in the armor.
>>741644836Is there a comprehensive list of what Nostalgic does?
>>741686438You actually can.
>>741686627Not sure but have a look at the steam workshop page, it lists a lot of the bigger ones and you'll probably be able to find a change log somewhere.
>>741685389spend first 40 learning points on 19 strength and 19 one handed weapon skill. and +5 both on next level up.
>>741686714It lists bugfixes and just says "tons of QOL" lol
>>741686941Anon means to say 29 str and one handed>>741686983Because most is just small stuff. For example if you become a mage and then give Constantino his shrooms for every 50 shrooms you get 5 mana as well as the money. So instead of eating shrooms like a retard for 20 min to get more mana you give them away in one or three swoops with some cash too.
>>741687068Apparently the mod adds companions lol, I wouldn't call that small, adds a "guildless route" (it probably just means you can get away with not picking a side for longer)Also I wanted to know if it had a patch that allowed me to use stat/skill boosts without me having to lower overall LP cost
>>741687129It does but you have to explicitly tell them to follow you and it one case pay 500 gold. If you don't do that then you will continue the game on your own.
>>741687197whats stopping me from taking a free one with me and cleaning the entire fauna of the base map?
>>741687129>allowed me to use stat/skill boosts without me having to lower overall LP costNostalgia mod doesn't change that but Gold Remaster: Skyfox Edition does. Haven't played it though so I can't tell you anything else.
>>741687443Fuck I want this changed so much, basically forces autistic people to wait until they're basically done with the game to use the boosts lol
>>741687423They are not that strong and they are still mortal. The strongest one in chapter 1 is a slut that needs 500 gold but she can die to 3 scavangers or maybe half a dozen goblins too.
>>741687517I know what you mean. In my current playthrough I might just say fuck it, drink and eat it all and then use Marvin to give me what I need without extra grind.Also Nostalgia mod now offers an option to respawn the monsters on the map, so I don't even need Marvin anymore. Forgot to mention too how useful companions are for mage runs.
>>741687517there are few strategic points where it's better to use boosts early. I usually do shrines to get 60->70 so I can equip that 70str 80 damage 6 skill sword early
Joined the Shadows & now have access to Gomez in the inner Old Camp. Exploring the inner courtyard at first I opened a door to a solitary tower on the West side, and inside I was astounded to discover my first female NPC after 15 hours of play. I don't think I'd ever been surprised to see a female NPC in a game before.
>>741688968Did you rape her?Its canon
>>741688968Talking to her is also weird because she says she feels sad that Bullit beat the shit out of me. It was really bizarre having such sentiments expressed in a Gothic game.
Okay, one thing I really hate about UE5 is that every patch is like 5GB
>>741689851True but at least the moors had the common decency to compress the game into 35 GB total
>>741689876A surprise really. Youd expect it to be at least double in size
>>741690487Alkimia has developed only one game and already they are above the industry standard.
>>741689851one thing that i really hate about UE5 is that its a pile of indian-coded dogshitthe industry cannot move on from UE5 fast enough fuck this engine jesus christ all my hatred could power a medium sized city
>>741690640>move onTo fucking what? Unity or maybe UE6? The industry is fucking doomed, there is no onward only downward.
>>741690687literally anything other than UE5 as long as it isnt UE6 because you just know UE6 will have the exact same god damn problems UE5 does
>>741690687>>741690728GODOT :^)
>>741690728>will have the exact same god damn problems UE5 doesYou are being too optimistic. 6 will be even worse.
>>741690728Nah UE6 will be almost entirely vibecoded which is an improvement over pajeet code.
>>741690687back to UE4
>>741690861
>>741690871Is current AI coding better than pajeet code? If so there may be hope.
>>741690920yesunironically AI has surpassed humans, even actually good ones, in terms of coding. it was in the news last monththat saidFUCK UNREAL ENGINE UP THE ASS WITH A ROUGH WOODEN STICK. THAT STILL HAS THE BARK ON IT.
>>741690587Id be fine with them being PBs spiritual successor.Now all we need is a Gothic 2 remake.Ill be waiting playing Archolos I guess
>>741690728Whats stopping devs from taking the good ol Source Engine and just polishing it so it looks more modern?
>>741690984except you cant because archolos STILL has the save corruption bug because gothic 2 and the mod of the decade version still isnt out
>>741690920Haven't written a line of code in about three months.
>>741691015laziness and incapability (read: indian outsourcing)UE5 is the cheapest most braindead way to make a game. it is also the most shit way to make a game because ti has dogshit optimization, literally shuts off 80% of intel CPU computers semi-randomly, and every time you use it, youre supporting that cunt tim sweeney too
>>741691029W-what save corruption bugIve had one crash while saving that made me unable to load it but I just loaded a previous one and put a new one in its place
>>741691015Nobody is taught how to use it so you're wasting expensive programmer time to essentially do nothing but learn what source can and cannot do and that is financially crippling for many studios. Plus the surrounding ecosystem doesn't have the support like UE does.
>>741691105i think he means the G2 bug in which NPCs shift a few centimeters everytime you save, putting a timer on your game world until it becomes unrecoverably fucked up
>>741691124Id imagine there are many autistic gmod retards who modded it enough to know a bitOr just find the Dark Messiah devs, give them coke and lock them in a basement until they shit out a sequel
>>741691105>>741691127NOPEgothic 2 (and archolos) has a VERY common bug where the game will just crash when you try to save and that save file from then on is unusable. crashes every attempted loadyes you can 'just use multiple save files' but its FUCKING ANNOYING.
>>741690728it's cool because UE6 will have inbuilt support for AI vibecoding bro (unironically)
>>741691228i dont give a SHIT about ai i just want ue to stop shutting my fucking computer off all because i have an intel cpu
>>741691215lmfao anon don't tell me you play old games with a SINGLE savefile?
>>741691331Disk space is at a premium currently, gotta save it where you can
>>741691215Nigga I make a separate save every 5 minutes because I'm a gothic veteranSo I had that once and it didnt bother me>>741691127Kek I want to see that
UE6 was going to be the version that unfucked cpu scaling but I have no idea if that is still the plan.
>>741691436>Kek I want to see thatActually I messed it up, that's a bug on Morrowind not Gothic2.
>>741691515How many black sages do you have to smoke to believe a single fucking word they say about UE?
>>741691215Rumble young man, rumble. Back in the day it was common knowledge to alternate save slots. On every save switch the slot you save into. That way you had a relatively close restore point if the game crapped itself.
>>741690728what are the actual problems with UE5? I keep hearing it's dogshit but also that it's an issue with the devs not knowing what the fuck they're doing.
>>741691641Can't speak to the coding side but visually it is the definition of soulless and no real art style is possible. Nothing but realismslop.
>>741644189does anyone like the dragons? cus I remember liking them. some fine pinatas for me to beat with my big stats
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>>741691685I don't particularly dislike them but they aren't any fun either, also just meaningless babble to skip through by the same 5 VA's this time with a voice changer.
>>741687517Just use "any LP" mod or whatever it's called for G2, and set leveling up to reward 20 LPs. That actually solves all the pacing issues and you don't need to hoard. You could even ignore the breakpoints (going to 39 and training 5pts to skip incremented costs a bit). I have no idea why they felt it was necessary to ramp up the costs. The player gets map clearing ability via armor, not necessarily LPs.>>741686331That's actually when the game is at it's peak, when it's almost impossible but tempting due to fast gains. Notice in the remake the world loses it's sense of danger in Ch3 when you unlock better armor, when it should realistically happen way later, around meeting Xardas.
>>741683421To put it shortly Gothic 3 feels more like an offline mmo than a gothic game. The world is open, it's big but there's barely anything interesting in it. The towns aren't really connected, once you're done with starter town there's never really a reason to return and this is applicable to most locations they're self contained.The quests is pure mmo tier, collect 10 plants kill 5 boars if I describe many quests you'd think they're from wow.You know how all piranha byte games make you join one of three factions? None of that here, there's faction reputation but you can complete the game without joining anyone.So what's good?The magic is the best option for once, homing fireballs never stop being funny.The music might be best in the series except for the combat music, you will hear the DUN DUN DUUUUUUUN wayyyyy too often but that's the one problem with it.There's still plenty of exploring, gathering loot, number going up character progression feels good even if it's basic.Liberating towns is pretty cool, the fights are much bigger scale you can fight like 50 enemies at the time.tl;dr I still think g3 is fun even if clearly inferior to g1/g2. Anyone who's a gothic fan should at least give it a try.
>>741691786>The player gets map clearing ability via armorNot really true for dex or mages
>>741685884The game can expect fairness when it starts coming at my 1v1 instead of gang rushing me. Until then, you're gonna get kited to a ledge and plinked with my bow while having barely enough dex to even hit you. Get fucked.
>>741683421>redpill me on Gothic 3I played it last week. it's a solid 0/10. community patch bumps it up to 3/10. it's just clearly unfinished and untested piece of shit.
>>741691829It's incredibly true for dex, especially for vets. In fact it was even easier this time around since Scar's crossbow had a dex requirement instead of str, so to my surprise I was clearing the orc outskirts before even having the mine collapse. Mages have a rough go, I've already fixed the magic with mods as the developers seem to have skipped playing the original as mages.
>>741691015the biggest shame for western video game development is idtech not being licensable without chaining yourself to bethesda
>>741683421Most of it comes from some kneejerk reactions to performance issues and terrible combat (especially against beasts) but they also dropped some things that were kind of important for Gothic games:>you don't start as a random hobo, you can kill orcs from the beginning (you can understand this narratively but still)>factions work differently: they work on a reputation basis instead of hard adherence, it makes it feel more like an MMO
>>741691810I've got DUN DUN DUUUUN PTSD after beating Gothic 3. Strolling through the beautiful countryside listening to Vista Point and suddenly my ears are assaulted because a pig saw me through the bushes. Horrible.
>>741691968I have to say I have good memories of going through Varant, very cool setting. Then Nordmar felt dangerous as fuck.Myrtana however was very underwhelming.
>>741691968>you don't start as a random hobo,Fucking trash decision right at the start. Going from hobo to demigod is the entire god damned point of the series.
>>741692025They gave a retarded reason for it on G2 but oh well but how are they gonna justify it a second time.Keeping the same protagonist and having rag-to-riches progressions are contradictory things.
>>741644354Gothic 1 crashes like a motherfucker, even with patches, for the authentic experienceGothic 2 only needs a resolution patch
>>741692057>They gave a retarded reason for it on G2 but oh well but how are they gonna justify it a second time.they also gave retarded reason in G3. oh no pirates stole our ship and all the good gear we for some reason werent wearing for the town liberation intro.
>>741692148Yeah but you don't magically unlearn everything you learned. Rune magic got fucked and your weapon skills are good enough from the get-go.Although that leads me to say it also sucked how you no longer got new melee animations with training.
>>741692057Wasn't retarded to me, my dude was miles under the earth in an ancient fucking structure that didn't survive the sleeper getting btfo.
>>741692138gog versions have zero issues. Steam releases are dogshit.
>>741691810I've tried to replay it some time ago but I fucked up mod install and generally who the fuck knows what to install, I've never seen any definitive guide
>>741650667>>741644021it's sort of missing sort of a hundred "sort of" per minute sort of
>>741692251>I've never seen any definitive guideI just used the one from steam and it werked fine, you just install all the patches in the right order there's like 4 or 5 of them and you're good to go the setup was easy.
Do you also beat up Lee in chapter 1to get his axe and become a merc in the same chapter?Gothic 1og is do soulful
>>741646314>make it more souls-like or whatever
>>741692328I don't even try. Remake Lee would fuck me up.
Yeah, I support LGBT! LeeGornBusterThorus
>>741648435>prison colony prostitutes dressed more modestly than real life womenmodern puritanism is a mental illness I can see women wear sexy lingerie as outerwear in the city and super tight ass floss thongs at the beach hugging their cameltoes
>>741660720You don't get it because you're a soulless normalfag.
>>741665231old vidya are like time capsules of comfyness
>>741692564For some you needed to be there when they came out I suppose cause Oblivion remake wasn't comfy to me at all, maybe cause I never played ES games.
>>741692661>remakethere's your problem
>>741692397>Not Lester, Gorn, Biego and Tilten
>>741692754Og Oblivion doesn't particularly look comfier but maybe that's just me. In any case the Gothic Remake still has comfy moments, mostly when you're alone in the mountains.
Kinda tempted to get Risen and maybe Elex with the sale. Is Gothic 2 worth it too?
>>741693162Gothic 2 is absolutely worth it and so is Risen 1. Everything else is a matter of tism and taste
>>741693193I played Risen on console back in the day and had a good time, guess I'll get some more eurojank after GR
Risen is great when all of the community advice is to ignore the parry system and just tank hits with a shield because the combat animations do not line up with when damage is actually dealt.
It feels like the game isn't meant to be played on hard as melee. So much shit just tears you apart until you have an armor. With melee only you basically can only fight scavengers and molerats until you get armor. Shit like the dam lurker is impossible because there is 3 groups of wolves aroun dhim
>>741693286How's staff combat and magic in there?
>>741693286I've played risen with a bow character and it was really strong except for the part where bow skill is bugged, levels 1-9 do nothing and only level 10 doubles your attack speed. If I knew that it'd be even better.
>>741693162Risen 1 is good, feels like Gothic game. Risen 2 feels consolized and some don't like it being a pirate game, I fucking love it for that.Risen 3 has some neat ideas but fails at execution, too little enemy variety, too large a world, meaningless exploration, being extremely easy etc.
>>741693340Hard prmadeath is basically a race to get rune magic for the free firebolt, then upgrade your mana once and beeline for the swamp quest to do the swampweed pickups and never turn that in. Should carry you until the end of chapter 2
>>741693347I cannot answer as I don't remember sadly but others will surely know.
>>741693340>Shit like the dam lurker is impossible because there is 3 groups of wolves aroun dhimKiting enemies away from each other is your bread and butter in early Gothic. Fucking Ratford explains it to you.
>>741693381They didn't even clean it.
>"people" actually playing the censored demake
>>741693347Magic is decent as long as you save up enough LP to immediately get level 2 or 3 of a spell because otherwise you will be endless chugging potions
>>741693408the original always reminded me of everquest with its obsession with pulling and splitting packs.
>>741693517It's a valid tactic for any beginner in any game that allows it. Only an idiot runs into a group of animals unprepared.
>>741693347staff combat is great, although later staves are more akin to spears or glaves IIRC. the animations are vaguely kung-fuish but not overly so.
What's the advantage of one hand swords? I think maces mog them hard since the q button stuns most enemies.
>>741693590Faster swings
>>741693590as other anon said faster swings, but they also have better forward movement on stabs so you have better control of distance.
>>741693576Alright I'll get the first one. I remember trying and disliking Risen 2 so I'll end there.
>>741693340Yeah, they ruined melee. It's very suspicious that there's always a rock nearby to climb and shoot enemies from. My guess is that the devs don't understand melee combat so they put hyper armor on every strong enemy, thinking that it'll please Dark Souls fans, while playtesting the game exlusively as archers.
>>741693286in my experience improved parries are absolutely gamebreaking when fighting npcs, you just spam it and they aren't able to land single hit because they all get parried, only exception is inquisitor because he is too fast
>>741693679yea Risen 2 was absolutely ass. I remember being high on Risen 1 after finishing and instantly buyinh R2. first 5 minutes were like getting slapped in the face. instant refund.
Is there a point to learning unarmed in the remake? Jan has the option but I'm wondering what it's good for
>>741694102Supposedly viable with enough str, saw a vid of a dude beating a Troll with his bare hands.
>>741694102it's just for meme runs as far as I can tell. technically you can skip carrying a backup mace for golems and skeletons if you learn it?
>>741694210>mogs souls melee in your path
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxM8yCbw_SsNEW DLC
>>741694283I watched that trailer. Where did they mention DLC?
>>741694283>The night of Bartholo Holy KINO
>>741694474
>>741694283I'd love a chapter 1.5 DLC where you get more camp conflict quests before you're sent to find Caine.
>>741694660Yeah the whole,>welcome to our camp!>Now go away to that other camp!stuff is kinda counterintuitive.
Sex with the kitchen wench
>>741694995You know she squirts into the stew right? Disgusting.
>gave the list to Diego>now locked out of joining the new campAUGH
>>741695665READ, NIGGER, READ
>>741695665You did the right thing.
would you like followers in 1 and 2?as in actual ones, not mud
>>741695665Reload an earlier save or persist in this cucked-to-Gomez world you have created.
>>741695826god no, the pathfinding would be maddening
>>741695870Last save was ages ago, I was level 4 (currently at 7). I wonder if I can edit the save somehow.
>>741695665You can always find enlightenment and join the brotherhood
>>741695939>Last save was ages ago,YOU FOOL, LEVEL 7 AND YOU STILL HAVEN'T LEARNED TO SPAM SAVES?? I MAKE QUICKSAVES EVERY 30 SECONDS AND DO A MANUAL SAVE BEFORE HEADING OFF TO COMPLETE EACH QUEST
>>741695915that could be fixed with some item or script teleporting them to you
>>741693347>staff combatI'm gonna guess the same as axe and sword at level 10 skill aka indistinguishable, might as well use a sword>magicdepends rune or crystalrunes are utility and can just be made into scrolls so kinda uselesscrystal you pick one and level it to level 10 the moment you get it so that you don't waste mana as it always cost the same amount but damage and speed increases with levelthen the game becomes a shooter aka boring ass game
>>741696172yeah right until in your exploration you jam yourself into a tight cave, the script runs, freaks out because said follower cannot spawn in near you within the given radius and the game either crashes, npc vanishes into the void forever or spawns allllllllllllllllllll the way back at their home camp and effectively leaves your party.
>>741693723axe + charge attack is what broke the melee for me right at level 1, no problems beating anything when done properlythat said ghouls suck ass and even with improved parries you are too slow to parry those fuckers
>>741695613Uh yes that's actually disgusting
>>741695826>>741695915My friend who's a notorious video game exploiter, realised that when you lead Baal Lukor to the orc graveyard he doesn't have any dialogue or interaction when you go off the intended path. He will just follow you anywhere and that's exactly what he did.He also had that bug where Baal Lukor was immortal and he used him to clear out almost the entire colony. Old Citadel, Xardas' Tower, Orc Territory, Snappers around the monastery, caves etc. There was no problems with pathfinding other than the Baal not being trained in rock climbing, but he had no problem with ledges you can jump and climb on. I think he even jumped off cliffs when he could find another way to follow downwards. Followers aren't such an unrealistic idea.
>>741693286threesome with Sara and Patty
I remember store clerk telling me this game was just like oblivion except it was nothing like oblivion at all.
>>741697030>she laughs and says "it's a good game, sir"
>>741686438In the remake, just spam firebolt. Really the only thing you can't clear in P1 with good old firebolt are shadowbeasts, bloodhounds, lurkers, and sharks.
>>741686438I finished Chapter 1 with like 80 strength. Yea you can take on an orc, just gotta hit those parries or dodges.
>>741697165Ork dogs can also bumrush you but otherwise yeah. It's nice to have a rune early but now there is basically no suffering and later no reward.
>>741683421I played it like 10 years ago when I couldn't wait any longer for the community story mod, so it was fully patched. It was okay, the music was nice, the rest not so much.I think we have a remake sooner than the story mod now.
>>741697421>gothic 3 remakeThat game needs to be remade from scratch.
That one hand master animation is just delicious
>>741697676rip snipper
>>741697676it's really good. I'm glad they got rid of that stupid stance with the weapon held behind you
>>741657549ONly some of the NPCs. A lot of them react.
>>741697540Agreed, the moors can use this opportunity to learn what it takes to make a completely new game
Did they change the progression in the remake? I remember wanting to play as a Water Mage in the original and it took ages to get accepted and until I had some viable spells, Fire Mage wasn't that bad.
I can't believe some people were calling the shadowbeast update a downgrade. Not only do these fuckers feel more viscious, but seeing them coming out in the darkness of a cave is pure kino.
>>7416976761H has bit too much jumping in general but nice moves
>>741697897Everyone promotes later, at the start of chapter 3 rather than halfway through chapter 2.You can become a water mage at the same time you can become a fire mage so going OC isn't mandatory for mages anymore.You can also learn some basic bitch magic without even joining a camp, and the firebolt is enough to carry you til you can become a proper mage.
>>741696794But Baal Lukor is not even that strong I don't get it, in my game he got knocked down thrice to the scouts in the cemetery.
>>741697250No it's fine, in the OG it didn't make sense to finally access magic at chapter three but then get spells that are designed for beasts that stopped being threatening 10 levels ago.
>>741697897In the OG you couldn't become a water mage until chapter 4 no matter whether you joined NC. This made NC effectively the only camp without custom rune magic.In the remake it's symmetrical to fire mages, you can do it at chapter three.
>>741698045Can't comment on G1 magic system but the remake nerfed a lot of late game spells like Fire Rain into the fucking dirt and the whole stupid charging for every spell is just not fun.
>>741698008as I said, there's a bug that renders him immortal during that quest. (I think it's fixed now tho) immortal in a way that prevents him from going below 1hp so he doesn't go down, ever.
>>741698159Yeah spells are undertuned for sure, but the charging animation was there as well in G1.
>>741698238Based Bald Liquor, he truly was blessed by Sleeper.>>741698250From what I know in G2 there are some charging spells while most are just basic projectiles or AOE.
>>741697676Yeah, in hindsight, I just don't really see any reason to go for 2 handed. The weapons aren't THAT much better, the animations are cool but 1 handed are even cooler, 1 handed is faster, and it costs a whooping 70 LP.
>>7416983782h costs 100LP since 1h mastery is now required
>>741698421did they make it so it also applies to Cor Angar? he taught me without 1h mastery on launch
>>741698494It changed in the last patch, you dodged a bullet
>>741698528that sucks. it basically makes 1h mandatory on hard.
>>741697165If you can get your hands on the mercenary's blade you can kill everything in ch 1 include the shark
>>741698557Yeah I'm taking a break from the game until the moors calm the fuck down with their changes.Thankfully Jharkendar is as comfy as ever.
Is Old Camp the better one, story wise, to do for a first time Gothic 1er?
>>741698675I regret being the one to tell you that it doesn't matter, after chapter two the stories get streamlined.Pick the one that has the cooler armor to you, but don't pick Swamp Camp if you want to go full magic (they don't get the two most powerful level of spells).
>>741698675Storywise, I think Swamp Camp makes the most sense.
>>741698528So basically i have to master 1 h first now in the remake?
>>741698675They're really all the same. You choice of camp has more to do with what build you want to go for and which armor you like most (pic related), because the story flow will lead you into the same places for all three camps and only changes occasional lines from npcs commenting on your allegiance.
>>741698784Yeah, you can try reverting to the previous patch if you really want.
>>741698794man those armors look like shit
>>741698794>black and redalways will look edgy to me dunno why
>>741698941Well im still in ch1 but looking at this thing i wonder if it's alright to get some train with crossbow since it looked strong (got crossbow from kicking the gate guards during dusty escort). What's max level you can get in this game though since i'm currently on lvl 13 but i dunno if the LP will be enough to at least have decent dexterity since i'm currently on way to str-maxxing
>>741699205On Gothic diff you can reach lvl 30 something so thats over 300 LP total
>>741699205I heard the only person who trains crossbow is a guy in the old camp castle.
>>741697978the new shadow beast works better in motion than it does in a screenshot, I can't really hate on people for disliking it at frist
i just found out about archolos for gothic 2any eta on 2.0?
>>741699205You can't learn crossbow until way later, trainers are faction specific (I think only one guard dude).
Murdered, violated, raped even.
My 1070 cant handle this shit. im going back to the original
>>741699575>holding the broken sword (actually just clipping through the ground but still)Cinema.
>>741699205The earliest you can learn crossbow is in chapter 3 and only if you're a warder.Everyone else has to wait until chapter 4, when Scorpio leaves the castle and hangs out with Cavalorn
>>741699894Why would you expect a 10-year-old mid-tier card to run a new release?
Who the hell can I beat up for a good bow? NPCs are running around with godly swords for melee chads but every archer is carrying a piece of shit string tied to a bent stick.
>>741698731>>741698794Thanks, lads. Do I need to worry about trainers or anything? I'm just going str/melee
>>741700278Diego will always teach str, Lee, Angar and Thorus teach 2h
>>741700278You'll never lack for STR trainers or melee. Just don't wait for 2H you're gonna need to max out 1H first.
>>741700231I beat up a good number of NPCs only found a couple of unique bows - all shittier than their regular counterparts.
Is there any special dialogue if you're a firemage when gomez does the funny?
>>741700394No
>>741698000>>741698096thanks, that sounds like a huge improvement
>>741700615It is but most higher circle spells aren't strong or even fun to use.
>>741698675I think it's best for first time player storywise yeahgameplaywise I like swamp more because of spellswording and I don't care about top dog spells
>>741701756being able to use empoweered heal as melee is so nice.
>>741702120Healing being buffed by circles makes it one of the best spells, saves you just so much ore overall.
str + magic was always my favorite way to play but 2 doesn't allow it unless you go mage
>>741702282Yeah it would be a fun playstyle but beyond healing, Paladin spells are trash. I hope the moors rework those too.
>>741641448Is there a remake veraion of this pic yet?
>>741702462No, there aren't the assets for it.
>>741702462>>741702519there was one where a guy put on xardas robes and stood on the bridge to the old citadel. it was pretty close
>>741702282You can absolutely just join mages and be a strong warrior, you only ever need to learn fire arrow and rest is optional. I think for expert players fire mages are the best choice by far, the utility of spells outweighs extra armor by a mile and you can just get the minecrawler plate and you're almost at parity.
>>741702595but I don't want to wear towel
>>741702654No accounting for shit taste
>>741702654At least in the remake robes are not dresses anymore. Practically the only armor that got a glow up.
What's the strongest mace in the game? Barring that shitty thing undead orcs use. Best I found was something called hammer of the gods at like 55 damage? Pretty pathetic compared to swords.
>>741702814Nah the new robes look boring, they are just decent compared to all the other armor in the game.
>>741703017I never liked tunics-as-dresses in traditional RPGs, it's fine for NPCs that just stay on their goontower studying tomes and shit but for an adventurer that goes on the wild is too impractical.
why so many shilltubers shilling this remake and pretending about playing the original game and then you find out they literally voiced some of the fucking characters in this shitmaketwisted fucking shit
I'm playing the OG, trying a bow build but I can barely hit anything. Is there a hit-chance based on Dex and Skill level?
>>741703434In the original dexterity modifies your range, at base dex 10 you may as well consider the bow to be a melee weapon to hit things reliably.
>>741703128Well I also don't like the lower dress part but love the overall design, colour and shoulder pads. Mages also make up for it by being able to kill everything in sight with a single spell.
>>741642029Umm, Cor Kalom is right behind me, isn't he?*slide whistle*
>>741683421I really like it. It has great exploration but the world is just too big for the gothic formula. It's kind of like a proto ubisoft world. Vista point <3
>>741704825Yeah the whole mechanic about gating areas based on dangerous enemies becomes pretty hard when you have a whole continent to deal with.Still want them to try.
how the hell do I make money/ore in this game, I finally got all the hunter skills but the mechants are too broke to trade for it and even if they had ore bulk trading is nerfed for some retarded reason, only posetive thing is that I finally got enough mana to kill a reasonable amount of enemies
>>741705868Yeah that sucks, got shitload of weapon from clearing black goblin nest and couple orc axes but the economy nerf is pretty shite.
>>741705868Kill gobbos and sell their shit.
>>741705868>he fell for the hunter scamyou won't even make the money back before like chapter 4 lmao, trophies from early and midgame enemies are almost worthlessEnjoy selling wolfskin for 2 ore a piece
>>741705868Cycle through different vendors. It looks limited but even with this I've never lacked for money, and you start spending a lot of it when you get ugpradable armor.Vendors restock ore after every chapter so remember to revisit them.
>>741706665>>741706414I don't like the new system too much but there are so many new items and monsters added in the remake that with the old economy, you'd get rich without trying in chapter 2.
>>741705868You can unlock Cipher as a trader by selling him Isidros weed or the weed harvest for Calom. He pays 400 ore for the first, and 600 for the latter.This also unlocks him as a merchant and he has like 700 ore in chapter one. Easiest way to get filthy rich in chapter 1.
>>741706229ye that and the sleeping nerf, to make the game "more relaistic", I sure enjoy staying up for 24 hours in order to get 8 regen hours of sleep, meanwhile my mage should have died of smoking and overating a long time ago, I am this close to just installing a mod
Is there a point to blacksmithing? Don't you just get better weapons by exploring?
>>741707054no. yes.
>>741707051>I am this close to just installing a modI installed it because of the bug and just never removed it. But fuck me does the animation take ages
>>741707294my game is not even bugged but it is just supid you go outside kill like 15 mobs do a sidequest, get back to your bed and you got like 3-4 regen sleeping hours
>>741706973Can you still join the swamp camp if you sell Calom's weed?
>>741707535Pointless busywork but I guess somebody needed to feel like the were contributing so they made this retarded change.
>>741707571Yeah, but you need to get a sleep scroll from somewhere else to make Baal Cadar vote for you
Should I choose easy exp farming?
>>741707571You need thumbs up from at least 4 Baals
ok so the lockpicking really makes me seethe even after training it, im just too much of a brainlet, i hate these kinds of puzzles. do i bother
>>741707784If you also like wearing frilly dresses or if your parents get money from the government because they made you.
>>741695665>Give the list to Diego>The exact thing the game tells will happen, actually happensAre you beginning to understand why people are longing for games that expect the player to have above double digit IQ?
>>741707939Never mind the brainlet part. Imagine doing 30 to 40 steps just for 11 ore and some tableware
>>741707051>speccing into twigy arm mage and not strength-maxxing two handed sword wielderThat's your problem lol
Idk if going for mage was a mistake, it is not too bad but I assume melee and bow are just strickly more fun/better and not that gimped early by mana
If you challenge Kirgo to fight you in the arena you can just never draw your weapon and beat him up with your fist because he doesn't fight back until you have a weapon drawn
>>741698421Are you sure you played the game? You can become a master in 2h without spending anything on 1h.>What?! H-how?Lmao, go play the game tard.
>>741707939>>741708064disregarding the specific opinions on the new lockpicking, what was wrong with old lockpicking?
>>741708156Early game is the most fun part of the game for mage, the later spells suck in damage compared to what bowfags and ungabungas can do in the same time and the spells aren't even fun to use.>>741708276On release that was true but since the last patch the moors changed it. Trust me I tested it my fucking self with Cor Angar. And no, it's not mentioned in the patch notes.
>>741708347Nothing imo, it's a great and simple system where stats and memory are needed but you don't waste 5 minutes for trash rewards.
>>741699418This year. You're at a difficult crossroads. On the one hand, it's by far, hands down, the best Gothic game out. Even despite running on the 20 year old engine it has far more fleshed out systems and emergent gameplay without feeling clogged or amateurish. The reason to hold off though is that patch is coming soon and it will add in a ton more. The campaign is some 60hrs long if you explore diligently. I dunno, play now if you're NEET and time doesn't matter.
too early for Gothic 2, right?
>>741699957>animetroonAre you truly shocked that jobless loser can't afford equipment that actually functions
>>741708602there was no fist fighting in the remake. DLC copium engage.
>hates anime on 4chan>obsessed with trannieswhy are tourists always so fucking obvious
>>741703434At around 40 dex it will begin to function as an actual ranged weapon. The further you get to the cap you'll be able to nuke things down. The main reason it's far weaker is you can't maneuver and backpedal, or even knock an arrow without standing still, so you'll get bumrushed. In practical terms you need to cheese enemies and shoot them from a ledge if you want to challenge yourself to a full ranged only run. Ranged is stronger in G2, but the same core weakness of mobility remains.
>>741708602They might announce it already. Remember G1 remake was announced ages
>>741705868You make money fast like it's done in real life, drugs, and cutting deals behind your employers back. Figure the rest out yourself, the game is at it's peak when you're starving for resources.
>>741707294There's a mod to fix the animation speed as well. In the original you can go to bed, sleep, wake up and get moving in the time it takes in the remake to even land your ass on the mattress. Triggered my tism so hard this was the first thing I modded out.
>>741708965og bow is busted once you get a good amount of dex you will become an auto homing missile launcher that snipes everything
>no 60 fps on my 3060ti
>>741707939It's not worth it at all. Train all the way up to master, then use the mod to F6 solve everything and roleplay that this is the mastery in effect. The lockpicking eats like 15-20% gameplay time and that's just a mistake on the devs part, no matter what you say.
>>741709194I used one but it also increased or just skipping most pick up animation and that annoyed me more.
>>741709295>The lockpicking eats like 15-20% gameplay time and that's just a mistake on the devs part, no matter what you say.Agreed. There's also a really low amount of chests that are opened with very specific keys. I think they'd benefit more from having that instead of putting some intricate lock on a simple shitshack door
>>741709197True, however requires preknowledge about where to acquire certain objects to or else the power ramp comes too late for it to really matter. However, that's true for melee as well I suppose. If you know how to get the Stonecrusher AND how to get enough str to equip it before even entering old camp, you can bust the game's cheeks >>741709275Time to tick on DLSS. Runs stable 60 with everything on "Gothic" just fine. Opening cage doors still stutters for some reason.
>>741709314Then do what any sane person does, read the description page and navigate to the config file to finetune it to your preference. Personally I made the sleeping nearly instant and using consumables roughly 3x the rate of vanilla, to match the classic version more closely.
>>741709592>Runs stable 60 with everything on "Gothic" just fine. Opening cage doors still stutters for some reason.DLSS balance.Everything lowered to HighOnly 50 fps with 85% GPU loading.
>>741709684DLSS performance. Enforcing FPS 60 cap through Nvidia control panel, UE5 can't handle this shit ever. V-sync on, screen refresh rate at 120fps. If that doesn't get you close, it's time to reinstall Windows and get rid off pornsite rootkits.
>>741708410well they actually buffed mages last patch, I am going to stick with my mage anyway, second playthrough i might just go twohander and ungabunga kill everything
>>741710134>well they actually buffed mages last patchYeah but they buffed most enemies too.
Lockpicking minigame is fine, median difficulty is just too tuned up, a random digger chest shouldn't have more than one lock, two if you want to keep the minigame.>hurr durr but then it's trivialYeah nigger so is what he has inside, just make it mandatory to get LP training to be able to attempt it.Only the absolute most important chests found in Gomez personal vault should have 5 to 6 locks.
I enjoyed playing a mage with the mage balance mod, better robes mods and the mana regen mod
