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THE FIRST REVIEWS ARE OUT. THE GAMERS KNOW, SHUT IT DOWN
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ACKKKKKK
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>>741643848
>wonderful design
HOLY paid off.
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>>741643902
GABENNNNNN

VALVE NINJAS

@FBI

SUE THESE PEOPLE NOW

THEY ARE BESMIRCHING OUR GOOD NAME
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>>741643902
lmao
sounds exactly like what everyone said about Macs back then
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>>741644161
Not even 30fps at 1440p. Literally a waste of money at this rate. The type of person that this would have been for is just better off getting a ps5 pro
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>>741644398
Nah get a switch 2 and keep it docked.
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>>741643848
the last point basically kills any incentive anyone has for the gabecube aside from collectors. It basically has no audience much the like first steam machine, they want to profit from the sale of a console when most consoles are sold at a loss.

Pretty sure I saw around here some rumors about valve talking with influencers and reviewers and every single one of them said the price was a big problem, especially because it is not that much bang for your buck.
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you're like 90 minutes late, faggot

nobody cares what you have to say
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>>741644398
>>741644525
basically this.
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>>741644161
aren't those worse numbers than the steam handheld?
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>Meme Machine

PC gayming was a mistake, I’ll put the cash saved from this shit towards a new XBOX
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>>741644615
STOP

ATTACKING

VALVE!!!!
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>>741643848
AAAAIEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>what if we made a PC console
why do people keep falling for this meme
the whole point of a PC is modularity and incremental upgrades
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>>741643848
>a wonderful design
it's literally a black box
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>>741643848
The 'eck justifies its existence, but this is Ouya-tier dogshit.
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>>741644789
Buttery smooth
Very cinematic
This gives me a lot of nostalgia for the ps3.
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>>741643848
but it's got a LED ya'll
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The sad thing is they could charge $2000 and still fill the order books with enough pcbros
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>>741644161
>atomMan g7

A fucking router is faster than steambox! lmao
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Linus was disappointed with the price.
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>>741645053
twice as fast even lmao
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>>741643848
Gaben is retarded if he approved to release it at that price
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>>741644997
Lol they wouldn’t be making money off that. The entire point of this stuff is to attract non-PC gamers into the valve ecosystem so they buy software. The only people who will get this are diehard Gabe cultists who will sell it on eBay after a week
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>>741645053
>>741645127
How is this possible?
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>>741645235
Atom macines, son.
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>>741644161
Silky smooth 16 fps
>70 million dollar house btw
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>>741644161
Beaten by an Intel card? By more than 50%? What? Or does it just suffer from an extreme CPU bottleneck?
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>>741644161
So for more than half the price I can get a switch 2 that comes with controllers and all the accessories needed to play it and I can get new games to run on it like RE9. Yeah I’m thinking Nintendo won
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I dunno about the US but on EU amazon you can buy prebuilts that are much stronger at that price point so not even normalfags win here
This is literally for no one
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>>741645146
Gaben lives on a giant fleet of megayachts where he definitely DOESN'T do any weird stuff in international waters away from the rule of law and age of consent laws. He doesn't know shit about the Steam Machine price
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I don't appreciate the antisemitic dog whistle in the OP
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>>741644161
How is it performing worse than when they did the original reveal to people like Linus? He claimed that it maintained 60fps on punk until they put RT on, at which point it started to drop frames. This is way worse than dropping a few frames.
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People would unironically buy something this expensive just because they know someone from India isn’t. I’ve already seen a dozen posts about “LOL JEETS BTFO” on here. Valve should raise the price even more.
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>>741643848
>this PC that requires a monitor to use just HAD to be portable because... uh...
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>>741643848
Wait so THIS is the best that the so called "pc master race" can come up with?? Ay dios mio...
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>>741643902
>its outrageously expensive and for that extreme price, its underpowered
>but it does have cute little face plates you can put on it :) and it (sorta) works with its designated OS
>somehow these points take up equal space
Reviewers are so fucking stupid
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>>741645708
Apple has done irreversible damage to consumers
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>>741644161
>>741644789
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>>741644161
>>741645235
>gaytracing on RDNA 3
>1440p
>(no such thing exists stupid niggers. It's called WQHD or 2560x1440)
at least use realistic 1080p benchmarks without gaytracing.
steam machine is an outdated low end GPU but it's not that much slower than a mobile 4060, which should be about the equivalent from the same year.
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HAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>741644161
but switch 2 is underpowered shit am i right fellas?
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>>741645852
Uh oh, steamy melty.
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>the year of the linux desktop
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>>741644789
"it runs perfectly on my Steamdeck!"
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>>741645986
if LTT hates it it must be good
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>>741645852
>paying $1050 (controllers, keyboard, etc not included) to get 30 fps at 1080p medium settings and no RT
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>>741644161
>b-bb-but muh steamos
>b-bb-bbbbut muh steam controller
I wonder how valvebots are gonna try and spin this one.
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>>741644161
Poorfag here
is raytracing actually good?
Never played a single game with it but I am still gaming on my Laptop
I prefer to play on potato mode so my hardware survives longer.
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>>741644161
lmao what are you even supposed to play on this $1050 (controller not included) system? Mina the Hollower and Deltarune?
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>>741644161
why no test at 1080p?
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>>741646335
it's a meme
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>>741644161
LOL
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>>741646447
How much is performance affected by it?
>>741644161
As in, how much of an FPS difference would be expected in this example
as far as I am aware Cyberpunk runs on the Deck
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>>741644161
>RT medium
Joke benchmark for joker posters
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>>741646405
>1080p
This ain't 2005 anymore gramps
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>>741643848
>>741644161
why is it so much closer on metro exodus?
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>>741643848
>$1049+tip for a 512GB box that has no controller and no GTA6
>this was supposed to corner the consolefag market
Gabe needs to retire
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>>741646393
every single console game that ever existed and pc games up to 2021
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>>741646613
>No GTA6
yeah for like 3 months
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>>741643848
>>741644161
HOLD THE PHONE

There is no way this piece of shit plays RE9 better than the Shitch 2

LMFAO
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>>741646405
because TVs are not 1080p now. I've had 4K TVs since 2019. And deck is made for the living room. But I'm pretty sure it cannot handle 4K.
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>>741646672
>yeah for like 3 months
anon? gta6 won't come out on pc until like 2028
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>>741643848
That'll be 1050$ plus tax sir, and if you want the controller you're going to have to go fuck yourself
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everyone is also forgetting this isn't even a functional PC, it's running SteamOS a closed source Linux distro that sucks for any kind of work
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>>741644161
Now let's see 1080p, medium settings, gay tracing off.
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>>741644789
LEAVE VALVE ALONE!
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Bros. How the FUCK is Gabe going to recover from this? He's finished this time for sure! Oh who am I kidding, retards will buy this trash anyway.
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>>741644161
This thing was supposed to cost 400 dollars how the fuck is it over 1k.
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Pcbros on suicidewatch kek
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>>741646738
I see... I don't really play Rockstar shit that ain't Bully so I don't know
If you really are that desperate for it just get a series s or something bro.
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>>741646946
I'm not that anon and I don't really care about gta6
the only reason I played gta5 was because epic gave it for free
I'm also not buying the steam machine either since my 3070 laptop still works fine for me
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>>741646393
Just shut up and play every new friendslop streamerbait between csgo queues.
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>I don't care what all of those incel faggots have to say
>I have my billions and live in a megayacht full of philippina teenage girls I can fuck all day
>Who cares about the gay little cube? I'm still going to grab your wallets by the balls in the next steam sale
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>>741646602
>cant even get 60 FPS on a 7 year old game that is known for being well optimized
>raytracing turned off
This is REALLY bad
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>>741646602
>>741646602
It's the engine. Wukong uses Unreal 5, which is garbage. Cyberpunk has a bloated mess of an engine. Metro has a custom engine.
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>>741644672
it's running at medium with RT.
deck is low.
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>>741646405
Because it would destroy the perspective that Steam Machine is perfect for 1080 60fps. Most people here are not even playing at 4k yet brag about it.
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>>741646602
>>741645053
>>741644161
Hmm yup, that's it.
I will buy myself a nice and comfy AtomMan instead.
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>>741644525
Switch 2 can't do Cyberpunk DLC at 1400p 30 FPS
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>>741647030
Yeah the machine itself doesn't look appealing to me.
Will probably just get the Companion Cube controller and thats it.
If they sell it standalone.
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>>741647143
1080p was the standard in like 2012 dude. It’s 2026, an expensive PC is supposed to be better than this
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>>741646602
imagine losing to something using an intel ARC
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>>741646805
>2026
>1080p on a console
Even the switch 2 is targeting way beyond that because TVs are massive.
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>>741646946
The point of the steam machine is to attract consolefags because the steam machine was always going to be a hard sell if you have a PC. It was supposed to be baby’s first PC. But even then it’s dogshit even by pre-built standards
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>>741646613
>No GTA
Sorry nigger, but I'm not getting 6 after V proved that Rockstar is dead. GTA2? Yeah I'll be playing that on day one of Steam Machine.
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>>741643848
>>741644161
Pack it up Gayben, you can't into hardware
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>>741647229
HOLY reddit. Imagine all the upvotes you can get when posing this with your wife and her boyfriend.
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>>741643848
Still gonna sell out the moment it releases in all its versions
And Gaben will keep buying tachts
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It will be sold out within the first five minutes
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>>741643902
>SteamOS integration (mostly)
what
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>>741647239
It's 2026 and people are still buying 480p DVDs. Sorry, bud, but 1080p IS the standard. 4k is not, it never has been. Otherwise we wouldn't still get Blu-ray. Otherwise the standard streaming service wouldn't be 1080p HD. Otherwise Steam Hardware charts wouldnt say that 80% of users are suing 1080p like God intended. 1440p/4k fags are a minority.
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>>741643848
Over 1 0 0 0(ONE THOUSAND) Freedombux for 512 GB storage

Is this an out of season's april fool's joke?
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>>741647524
>>741647531
Yeah cuz they put 5 units for sale kek
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>>741647239
>$1000
>expensive
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>>741644161
I doesn't matter, Daddy Gaben wants another yacht and he will have it
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>>741647294
>Because TVs are massive
>Yet the Switch has a tiny screen compared to a TV
>Yet the Switch has a 1080p screen
>The previous one was 720p

You guys simply don't understand that 4k comes at a MASSIVE performance drop. That's 4 times the performance drop from 1080p and you guys on PS5 and Switch 2 are not even playing in native 4k.

>t. Steam Deck + Switch 2 owner on a MASSIVE 120" screen
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>costs more than a ps5 pro
>performs worse than a ps5
valvbros...
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>>741644161
>RT
you surely play games bro
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>>741648385
Are you going to do the needful and give Gaben $1050 for this and then sell it on eBay for $600 just like the valvies did for the ‘eck? Cuz lmao
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>>741647564
>It's 2026 and people are still buying 480p DVDs
what fucking third world shithole are you living in?
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>>741647946
b-but we can play femboy rape simulator on it...
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>>741644536
It's for the contingent of tech-hobbyist-but-still-illiterate Japs and Koreans who don't buy "no-name" tech products. It's the PC gaming equivalent of a Google Pixel.
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>>741647442
>Portal
>Reddit
Portal predates the world as you know it.
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>>741648570
>He doesn't know
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>>741648967
Lol portal was a peak early 2010’s Reddit game. LE CAKE IS A LIE!!!! And all that
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>>741648998
DVDchads keep winning
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>>741648998
The only white people who buy DVDs are autists looking for a physical movie collection. I think Japan is the only first world country where a significant amount of people buy it still
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Is he wrong? Is a cube not the optimal design for your tech?
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>>741646335
It looks nice-ish but is TERRIBLE for performance. The kind of thing for people who get the 2500+ gaming rigs.
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>>741648998
He wasn't asking about market share of disc formats, he was asking about DVD units period.
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>>741649265
no, a sphere is where is at
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How cheap was it meant to be without all the jew shit happening?
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>>741650518
probably 800
lowest I am willing to think is 750
999 for 2tb with controller
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why are PCgamer so retarded
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>>741650682
Don’t get why they keep factoring in pricing into the review score. It’s a fantastic little machine that does a great job at what it’s supposed to do, why do they have to lower the score as if poorfags and brown third worlders matter
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>>741650889
Because retards will look at a price higher than a PS5 Pro and buy that instead.
Despite no games and subscriptions for online
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>>741650995
and being more powerful.
steam machine cant even run minecraft in 30 fps
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At this rate, I think I'm better off buying a dock for my Steam Deck
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>>741650518
$1048
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>>741644883
That's automatically better than whatever the fuck the PS5 is.
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>>741651151
>Use vibrant visuals
>The PS5 pro can't either
lmao
that will be 950 bucks + monthly internet access please
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>was supposed to bridge the gap between console gamers and PC
>costs as much as a prebuilt desktop with half the performance
I’m a certified Gabedrone with both models of Steam Deck and even I couldn’t tell you who the target audience for this thing is.
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>>741643902
I would say theyre FREAKKKIN' BASED but I know theyre saying it out of spite
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>>741644789
But they said 60 fps at 4k resolution..
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>>741651356
In theory, the target audience is console gamers

In reality, the target audience is people like you
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>>741644161
It is for the retards, who can't do the PC DIY
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>>741650518
550$
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>>741651484
you need FSR for that. Like PS5 does.
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what a shame, i was really hoping for it to be good just so playstation, xbox and nintendo would be forced to cater more to their playerbase

total investor death in 2 weeks it seems
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>>741648998
yes i know you buy dvds in your shithole buddy, why dont you grab stats for new discs sold in first world countries
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Why not just make something like Google TV/Apple TV or Amazon Fire Stick to allow for streaming from PC to the TV seamlessly?

Consolefags and normies arent gonna buy this shit, and non-Steamie PC gamers wont cuz we already have a computer that is usually just better.

This is literally only for Steamie shills.
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>>741643848
>>741643902
>>741644161
>>741644789
You're laughing. Steamjeets are losing izzat and you're laughing.
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>>741644789
Poorfag here
>Ultra high
and if you turn lower the unnecessary stuff like highly detailed shadows and ambient occlusion?
How much of a boost would it get?
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>>741651714
im crying bros pleas hug me
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>>741651668
Steam cultists will buy it with all the accessories and max storage and then sell it for 25% off on eBay just like they did with the ‘eck

It’s a small price to pay for all that valve has done for gaming in their minds
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>>741651809
I liked the deck, its a nice mobile handheld console I can take wherever with me.

The Steam Machine truly makes no sense to me.
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>>741646335
Depends on the game. Half of the time it's either barely better or actually worse. Cyberpunk and Control have this funny little feature with reflective surfaces that aren't completely opaque where there's this fucked up dithered-looking ghosting across the entire surface.
Because of that, I basically ignore all RT features.
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>>741650518
999 for 2tb with controller probably
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>>741646335
you are basically shooting hundreds of thousands of virtual bullets at every pixel on screen for every frame and blending their result together into a blurry mess just because artists don't wanna bake cubemaps and lighting onto their 99% stationary levels anymore
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>>741651342
>gets free games each month for it
good deal. unlike PC, PS5 actually gets good games while PC only gets indie shit kekw
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>>741644161
wow Steam machine is pathetic
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>>741652217
>stop paying subscription
you lose these free games
Not so free it seems...
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>>741652401
It is normal for snoyggers not owning anything per Sony.
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>$1000 is a lot of money
are you poor???
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>>741652586
Yes? What are you doing here if you're not poor?
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>>741652618
One has to stay humble by surrounding himself by hobos
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>>741643902
>Regular gaming pcs make much more sense
then what's the fucking point kek, buying Gabe another yacht?
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>>741644161
Why do (niggers) keep using the most unoptimized game of the decade as a benchmark for hardware performance?
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>>741652586
>moneyed kike degenerating with vidya
way to larp, nigger
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>>741652526
They only did this AFTER xbox had gotten backlash. They wouldn have done the same had the roles been reversed. You're being grifted.
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>>741643848
>Digital Foundry
>Tests at matched settings between Steam Machine and PS5 show that the Valve hardware can fall a little short

Less powerful than a fucking BASE PS5. It's over
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>>741652678
Look, you gotta go. You're not welcome here if you're not poor.
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>>741643902
I expected this
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>>741652793
copium
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>>741652586
It is a lot of money for what basically amounts to an ouya-touya
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>>741643902
cons:
>the price
>the price
>im retarded
>the price

stellar journalism
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>>741652526
Fake.
>>741652851
Doesn't exist.
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>>741652796
Depending on some games... Those games on Steam machine run better than PS5 and vice versa
see >>741651524
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>>741652998
On the flipside, your PS5 games retain value after purchasing unlike on Steam.
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>>741651524
Normal prebuilts with actual graphics cards are a way better deal than the cube
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>>741652878
An ouya but with an already vast game library
not so grim. but bad nonetheless
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>>741652912
pros:
>its so cute :3
>you can make it pretty :3
>Steam library access
>its so cute AND quiet :3

Couldve talked about the hardware more too at least
That said its a piece of shit either way
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>>741653021
Yeah if you are willing to shell out the shekels
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>muh playstation console war
What a fucking embarrassing attempt to deflect from this disaster. Have some self respect.
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>>741653146
Used games are cheap if you play your cards right, and even then if you're a digital cuck PS5 sales are better than steam sales.
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>>741652941
>t. seething snoygger
>>741653021
lel
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>>741653169
Don't get me wrong its bad
But you dont NEED to buy this shit to play PC games
You do NEED to buy the ps5 to play the 4 exclusives it has, however
>>741653201
>PS5 sales are better than Steam sales
(you)
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>>741653259
Stops nobody. Impotent.
>>741653283
>he doesn't know
Impotent.
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>>741653026
I agree. Steammachine is for the retards, who can't do DIY.

I have a rig that is more powerful PS6 anyway.
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>>741647185
it actually runs quite fine now, all things considered, the xbox version ended up being the superior one tho, when it comes to physical
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>>741653146
yeah, but those want PRO so they buy the detached disc player, but they will NEVER own. :^)
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>>741653348
Do not presume
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>>741653457
Speak for yourself.
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>>741653453
holy fuck
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>>741653060
>not so grim
That's exactly what ouyafags said when they were i the early stages of cope,want a reminder and a possible window into your own future on how that ended for them?
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The Steam Machine is a good deal. You might think it’s overpriced. You might think it’s weak. You might even think it’s a scam. But you have to ask yourself: are you being disloyal to Gaben? The steam machine is a good deal.
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Why did Gabe betray us....
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>>741653283
>buy the ps5 to play the 4 exclusives it has,
>wokeslops
lmao i agree.
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>>741647239
Fuck you. 1440p is a small upgrade thats rarely worth it vs performance and 4k fuck cant even tell that shit from 1440p anyfucking way unless youre 2 feet from an 80inch screen.
1080p is still supreme and unless some massive hardware paradigm shift happens will continue to be
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Where the fuck was Half Life 3?
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>>741653721
lol

>>741653654
>facebook memes
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>>741647239
nope industry is going back to 1080p
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>>741653610
The Steam Machine is not for me. I would have a hard time recommending it to most people. However, I would recommend it to people who are completely clueless and want an easy way to enter the PC gaming world. Aka it is for the retards.
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>muh console wars
/v/ is so homosexual
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>>741653569
You're comparing literal mobile games to the entire PC library brother
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>>741645305
The laptop tier card in the Steam Machine shits itself if you turn RT of any kind on. I'm sure the 8GB of VRAM doesn't help it one bit.
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>>741644161
KEKYPOW
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>>741643848
this shit will burst into flames
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>>741653569
Yeah, poor ouyafags, but I think steammachine will turn out better than that. It’ll be much less grim, though not exactly rosy.
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>>741651524
What causes native Linux programs to perform so badly compared to their Windows counterparts?
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>>741646602
Why is the RTX 5060 performing slightly worse then the RTX 4060??
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>>741648927
I guess but is it worth trouble of developing and launching the product though?
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>>741654153
my guess is in the conversion process, linux apps are using outdated or weaker calls and optimization, but the proton layer is simply more refined, better optimized, and directly translates the windows render calls so it somehow is ending up more efficient as a result of less fucked up fuss.
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>>741654274
With these craptops it can be anything. It can be a CPU bottleneck on one or the other. It can be due to power limitations. It can be due to different thermal designs causing one or the other to throttle.
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>>741654153
they use shitass outdated opengl versions
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>$1400 for 3060 plus controller
Im not feeling it bros
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>>741653963
Not enough testing, no one uses it so it fails in real world applications
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>>741652586
>spending $1000 just to settle for mediocrity
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>>741653453
>preservation issue for console with zero (0) games
uh...
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>>741654024
Kekpowkwablgbtq
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>>741654760
topkek
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>>741654760
This. PS5 emulation will probably take decades to be decent due to the lack of interest, but by the time the servers go offline Astro Bot will be fully playable. And nothing else because who the fuck cares.
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>>741643902
Enjoy your $1000 paper weight, steamies
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>>741655001
I already have a PC doe
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>>741652586
>>$1000 is a lot of money
>are you poor???
the value of the gabecube does not match the price of the gabecube
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>>741643848
I don't care how much it costs. I don't care about the specs. I don't care. Valve has NEVER done me wrong, so I will buy. I'm sure the machine will be just fine, and everyone panicking is expecting pre-covid pre-AI hardware prices.
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>>741655090
Blame AI companies. Blame the smaller form factor and the extra costs involved. Blame the fact that Valve isn’t an established hardware manufacturer like Nintendo or Sony. But ultimately Valve isn’t the one at fault here
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>>741654570
Same. I was thinking of getting it as a collectible, but not at that price point. I will probably buy their new VR headset though, since it adds functionality over the one I already have.
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>>741655110
Yeah, I really like Valve, but the Steam Machine isn’t for me. I had a Steam Deck too. Great device, by the way. I gave it to my nephew because he wanted it so badly, and he still uses it to this day. I already have a rig that’s more powerful than the PS6, so I’m happy with what I have.

I might be tempted to pick up a Steam Frame as my first VR headset.
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>>741655403
>Steam Frame as my first VR headset
I genuinely implore you to look into getting something cheap to test if the experience is for you. I bought a 100€ PSVR1 and very quickly realized that the library is small, the games are gimmicky and very commonly I just wouldn't bother going through the hassle of setting it up even if it was just plug it in, headset on. That influenced my decision to get a 300€ PSVR2 instead for PC, the amount of games and hours I put into it just doesn't justify a 1000€ purchase.
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>>741652586
It is for what you're getting.
If you are poor then $1000 is a lot of money. If you are not poor, then why the fuck aren't you rocking a $2000 PC already? It's just a useless piece of shit that appeals to no one
Honestly, this only affects consolepigs since they're now permanently locked out from PC gaming or even having a PC in general. I have no idea why they're acting like they've won or something
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Can you upgrade this?
They made the controller fully reparaible and can even 3d print suff for it
So I was hoping this was a pc-like in that regard, they could just release custom parts fpr the long run game, excusing the cost, at least a little
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>>741655926
obviously not, a mini pc like that requires soldering everything down
except for storage and ram that is
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>>741645986
>yfw you see the performance
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>>741655926
You can replace the RAM and the SSD, but that's for the general gist without actually doing a teardown for personal modding.
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>>741656126
Why did he get braces anyway? Weren't his teeth already straight? I don't recall them ever being crooked.
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>>741644161
>hey let's try to run a game on an underpowered machine at 1440p with RTX on
>wtf? only 16 FPS? that can't be, this underpowered machine sucks
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>>741656209
>>741656071
oh that sucks
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>>741655926
>Can you upgrade this?
Yes, only SSD and Ram

Unless you know how to solder, then you can do it. You can replace the CPU or memory through soldering or by using higher-binned components. Many normies can't do this.
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>>741644161
why are these pcs getting sub 30 fps at 1440p MEDIUM SETTINGS??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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>>741656428
>rt
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>>741656276
Brother it came out during COVID
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>>741656241
Idk, he's' a huge faggot and the braces, hat and earrings just scream "how do you do, fellow kid?".
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>>741656512
Sister do you really think that games that came out on covid run at infinite FPS with all settings jacked to the max
In fact I think the biggest reason why the Steam machine will fail is that PCfags think they need to run everything on max settings all the time
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>>741643902
>Pros
>runs quietly
>Cons
>doesn't run very good
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>I lost because I have no reason to downgrade my PC to a steam machine
ok?
consolefags are fucking desperate to have some autism wars
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>>741646335
Looks great on the right game with good hardware
Path tracing in RE9 looks amazing
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You reap what you sow, gabencunt.
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>>741657113
he is not wrong, people with a brain dont hate AI because of silly pics or videos or being used as a tool, hey hate it because it's going way to fast for any legal pro consumer regulation to happen, and because we all know the government wants to basically enslave this generation with it
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>>741643848
People are going to have to get used to these prices because they're not coming down any time soon.
The investors demand profits.
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>>741657474
i hate AI because i don't want a third worlder with chatgpt to replace me.
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>>741657931
Unfortunately all your shitposts will be lost like feces in the ganges
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Okama Gamebox is finally out lmao.
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>>741652690
as if you're getting a steam machine tier pc at $1500 today, lol. I hate steam and steamies for goying out for the 30% but this journo is just like the rest of them
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>>741644161
Trying to play anything at 1440p on the Gabecube is a retarded waste of time. That's not what it's for.
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>>741658359
1080p 60 fps was the standard in like 2011. Fast forward 15 years, you need to spend $1050 for that experience. What a joke.
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>>741658456
most people are still on 1080p, retard-kun
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>>741657113
why do boomers think AI is a skill to learn? you just type a prompt in a text box. or are they expecting people to know how to make their own AI?
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We're still buying it anyway
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>>741658814
billionaires want us to be reliant on AI to do anything. it's not hard to understand.
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>>741643848
Gaben is finished
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If the prices werent what they are and if they didn't promote it as a 4K(upscaled) machine, then it'd be a good product, cause this little thing can do CP2077 at 1080p ultra just fine and reach 90fps with 1% lows in the low 70s
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>>741658971
Are those steambots defending this glorified miniPC with HDMI port in the room with us right now?
I bought the steam controller and will buy the steam frame day 1, so I am one of those steamie cultists according to you faggots, but I ain't defending that piece of shit cube since I already own a high end PC.
That garbage was made for you consolefaggots since you're too retarded to build a PC of your own.

I'm sorry that you got priced out from ever being able to build a PC.
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>>741658359
>That's not what it's for.
Then why are they advertising 4k on its own store page?
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>>741659551
>with fsr
it does 4k the same way consoles do 4k
i don't see them telling you to turn raytracing on?
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>>741659685
I see them telling me it does 4k.
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>>741659551
You can play games at 4K 60fps on it, the issue is that you're forced to play literal 2d pixel indie games
It's kinda like how shitendo advertised the switch 2 as a 4K 120fps machine even though it only runs that well on the home screen
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>>741659743
yes, with fsr, the same way consoles do 4k, by upscaling
can you read?
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>>741643848
I've seen a few reviews and they're all like "yeah the Steam Machine is kinda shit with games but man it is so quiet and is so small wow it's amazing! Such a good machine! This is true revolutionary!" It's like either there's a bias at play or the reviewers are being given cash for not completely shitting on it.
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>>741651319
Not setting the bar very high there.
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>>741659791
Not sure what your point is. That anon said it's not for 1440p gaming when the store page says it's for 4k.
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>>741651319
ps5 is literally a black box too, but with fins on it (for peak performance).
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>>741659896
yes, with fsr so not native 4k, so just like consoles that also claim 4k
why are you struggling with this concept?
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>>741643848
>>741643902
I guess you could call it... an Epic win
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>>741660218
No one said native?
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>>741650518
Probably $700ish
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>>741660351
you did, retard, by talking about 4k over and over
they're not claiming native 4k, they explicitly mention fsr
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>>741660134
I hyped it up because its success could make troonix finally worth migrating to. Sadly, now that it's confirmed to crash and burn, I have no reason to give a single shit about it anymore
I'm staying on W11, wake me up once the gabe cube 2 gets announced and the AI overlords die
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I don't think Valve will make much headway with their "Steam as a console" thing no matter what they do or how it was priced.
PCfags will just get a second PC or run a cable to their TV
Normalfags won't ever know it exists or would buy an overpriced gaming laptop before they even think of searching for something like this
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>>741646405
THIS IS MY LAST COPE
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>>741660403
Oh got it, you're gonna just pretend I said things now. Good talk anon.
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>>741652586
I'd pay 1k to fuck peak Uehara
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>>741660440
linux isn't hardware-locked you stupid faggot, and SteamOS is just arch + kde plasma which makes it a worse, underbaked version of CachyOS, shit doesn't even support nvidia
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>>741660558
So? Troonix can't evolve if no one uses troonix. The gabe cube would force retards into using it.
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>>741660830
the steam machine doesn't force anything you doubly stupid faggot
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>>741660892
Yes it does. Consolenigs (the main target audience) wouldn't know how to change OS in that turd, so in a way it's forced.
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>>741660892
Anon you don't need to act retarded to make a point. You know exactly what that anon means.
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>>741661010
there's no point being made, both of you are retarded faggots that don't understand what SteamOS even is and how it compares to other distros
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>>741643848
I cannot think of a product that would sink like a stone maybe immediately other than the Ouya, what a shame
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>>741643848
I hate AI faggots so goddamn much.
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>>741661092
>Steamie is having such a meltdown, the rage has made him illiterate
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>>741658359
Thanks for calling valve retarded >>741659551
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>>741650518
800usd. Which is still a bad deal given the specs
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>>741645453
>How is it performing worse than when they did the original reveal to people like Linus?
This may surprise you, but Linus like almost all monetized youtubers is a literal paid shill who makes his money off of sponsorships.
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Literally every valve product was a failure this is no exception
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>>741661572
the controller absolutely rapes all first party offerings
the deck is objectively better at being a handheld than anything nintendo ever made
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>>741646654
>buy new computer
>cant play new games on it
Sounds great.
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>>741661663
If its anything like the original steam controller.... lmfao
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>>741643848
Yeah, you can buy a good PC at a 1000.
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>>741661827
it's ahead of every single cucksole controller in tech and it has god tier software
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>>741661937
lol, LMAO
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>>741661973
consider saying something instead of making posts that just serve as downvotes, this isn't reddit
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>>741661937
the ps5 dual edge and the switch 2 pro controller are the best controllers ever made you faggot nigger
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>>741662272
>no hall effect
yeah no, failed at the very first hurdle
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>>741658359
Sounds like a terrible deal then. I bought a prebuilt to game at 1440p 2 years ago and it was around $1k
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>feels underpowered for the cash
relative to what at those price points? just curious cause if I could build something better, I'd like to
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>>741643848
LAUGH AT TROONIX MACHINE
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>>741643848
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>>741650518
It doesn’t really matter because then everything else would be cheaper too and it would still be a bad deal
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>>741646868
I seen people saying it not gave fault, meanwhile nintendo rised the price of the seitch 2 with a 4.month notice and all of twitter want to drop a 3rd nuke
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The only thing this console has an advantage is form factor.... at best, but even then you could not justify the price point, you just cant. I've seen prebuilt pc's with a 5060ti 12gb and 32 gb of dd5 ram that are slightly 100-150 dollars more than the 2tb steam machine sku, and yea the 5060ti is a older card but it still smokes the steam machine specs by a country mile.
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>>741643848
what a blunder
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So when do we get a new Sega console?
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It's a 1080p machine and it runs just fine at that resolution. The human eye can't see above 1080p anyways.
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>>741645986
>Click the video
>It's just him shilling it and calling it good value
Kek
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>>741649624
Why does that matter? If DVD is the majority what does that say about 4k?

>>741651662
Again, why does that matter? 3rd world shitholes are flooded with cheap Chinese 4k tvs.
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>>741644161
OH NO NO NO NO NO VALVEBROS WE GOT TOO COCKY
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>>741645708
It makes sense, it's a novelty toy for pcbros who play graphically unimpressive indies and tf2. So appearance and cuteness does matter. If they wanted to play games like cyberpunk on PC they would build one.
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>>741645708
You're just fucking autistic, goddamn. It's obviously not tit for tat equal weighting. It's just a quick summary of all there is to say.
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>>741647294
>Even the switch 2 is targeting way beyond that
By upscaling and bluring everything into crap...
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>>741668703
because the original question was about you living in a shithole country where people still buy DVDs you disingenuous faggot
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Isn't this supposed to be a 1080p machine? Why are you people benching in 2k ultra settings?
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>>741669919
I'm not going to do your research. DVD is the number 1 seller in every country, retard. Apply your brown self.
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>>741670074
Because they want to pretend that PS5 Pro doing AI 4k upscaling is somehow a huge own.
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Why is this board so smug about being impoverished? Camera lenses are almost a grand. God forbid you weave, spin yarn, or do other tangible hobbies. Why do gamers lose their shit over $1000? Imagine not supporting your """"""hobby""""""
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HEY RETARDS, GUESS WHAT?? IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT THEN DON'T BUY IT!
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>>741662659
He's a poorfag reaching, anon
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>>741670437
i wasn't going to, i love building pcs
disappointing, i want consoles raped out of existence, hope others pick up the blueprint just like they did with the 'eck
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>>741661212
It's going to sell out immediately, are you kidding?
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>>741645053
Where benchmarks?
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>>741643848
NOOOO THIS IS A LIE! THE STEAM MACHINE IS A 11/10 AND ILL SLURP UP ALL THE JUICES OUT OF GABES ASS! YOURE JUST A ROTHSCHILD AGENT SHILLING ON BEHALF OF TIM SWEENEY!!!
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I'm hearing the original price was $750, which would have made things a little more palatable. But ultimately even that just isn't where it needs to be in terms of price/performance. I have a great PC so I was never really in the market to begin with, maybe this is a real upgrade for the lower tier on Steam, a sort of cash for clunkers for PC gaming where we bring up the bottom 10% or something, but not for a thousand plus.
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>>741670535
>a poorfag reaching
ought to be /v/'s official subtitle
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Should've built a PC prior to September of last year, cucks
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>>741643848
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>>741670213
>SAAR INDIA IS BEING NUMBER ONE COUNTRY WE ARE LOVING THE DVD
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It listed today, AFAIK it hasnt even shipped. How the fuck are any of these reviews real? Even if they preshipped those and embargoed it, I am still loling.
>It wont play raytraced unoptimized spaghetto at 4K/ 60fps
You entitled brats, most rigs wont. you have to pay $5K rn for something that will
>Its $1K
you chump, the cost comes from first party support. consoles are sold at a loss cause the hardware owner gets licensing fees from all independent software devs, who have to compete for your limited time. Having in house development of both software and hardware, without it being subsidized, this is close to a fair price.
>Setup is hard
Go make a Microsoft account for your windows pc. Go make an apple ID for any BS they sell. report back.
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>>741643848
••• Wonderful design •••
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>>741646335
It's called memetracing for a reason. Fancy reflections in a puddle aren't worth it when 99% of the other textures have zero change with it turned on.
There's like 3 games that make -okay- use of it.
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>>741659430
Steamfag really said "Yeah this thing is shit but so are pcs in general anyway!"
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>>741673113
>you getting priced out means it's shit

Were you an only child? I bet you hate women and think that sex is overrated too, huh?
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>>741672367
People aren't upset because the price is too high, they're upset that the price is that high for shit parts. A prebuilt is 2.5x better for another 500~900 bucks. You can't even fucking upgrade it because it's all soldered on. When you want to upgrade it'll end up in the bin.
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Just build a proper PC or get a Snoybox.
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>>741644789
Unpopular opinion but 1080p 144hz is all that you need, i can even deal w/ low settings
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>>741671453
Kek
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>>741663076
>because then everything else would be cheaper too
If you think the PS5 got a price hike because of ram/ssd prices, then you're the most gullible person on the planet, Sony raised the price due to greed and greed only, even if the best ram in the planet cost just 1$ Sony would still raise the PS5's price to 1000$ like they did in our timeline. If the ram/ssd crisis never happened, the steam machine would have insane good value
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>reviews calling it expensive that say get the PS5
>none of them factor in games on PS5 cost more, and PS+ for multiplayer runs you $100 a year
>also that the only good game sales on PSN require the PS+ discount, so you're paying yearly to pay less
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>>741673703
1080p 60hz*
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>>741670074
$1000 for a 1080p slop machine meanwhile the same price can get you 1440p 90 fps with no framegen or upscaling. KYS
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>>741673703
nVidia is mandatory for modern games at 1080p, since DLAA is the only way to make the game not look like it's rendering at 720p internally.
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>>741675364
Then get a 1440p 90fps slop machine.
I'll be happy with a 1080p 120hz which is easy on this hardware.
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>hybrid system
>Can play it both handheld or docked
>Actually has exclusives on their system
>Great to superb exclusives
>Makes pc vegans seethe to no end
>Cheap and affordable at only $450
NintenDOMANATION! I'll mess with snoys another time, but for now, fuck peecee vegans and steaming pile of shit deck and steaming pile of shit machine!
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>>741675490
>Cheap and affordable at only $450
With the most expensive fucking games on the market, oops.
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>>741675426
you misunderstand the point, tranny
same machine could easily run 1080p and better too. braindead consumer drone KYS
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Steamsisters this is NOT okay
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>>741643848
>>741643902
>>741644161
It would probably be fine as an extremely basic console in a world where the RAMpocalypse didn't happen and Gaben could sell it at 499 or something. Unfortunately the RAMpocalypse happened at the worst time for him.
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>>741655691
worst case scenario I'm only using it for VR porn
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>>741676084
it would still be a dogshit system
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>>741643848
>>741643902
>>741644161
Kek
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>>741643848
If I didn't get laid off last week I'd buy one
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>>741676101
No shit retard, this may come as a surprise to you but there are different tiers of products and you get what you pay for (or don't pay for)
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I'm buying TWO (2) extra Switch 2 for my family + some games just to spit on these jew tricks, never ever again gonna believe in muh PC gaming ty Gabe for forgetting your roots, fat old cunt
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>>741676241
so go get ripped off for a dogshit system lmfao dumbfuck
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>>741643848
Gaben is done for
now he wont be able to afford his second yacht
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>>741676439
I'd never buy this, I've built my own sytems and been on Linux for half a decade already
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>>741646602
Metro Exodus is abnormally extremely well optimized, you can run that game on the highest settings with a 3070
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I love watching steamies get taken down a notch.
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>>741676876
>just wait three years of taking 30% off every sale on steam
and there he goes, getting another 3 billion
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>>741647229
>the Companion Cube controller and thats it.
I think that's a controller skin from D-Brand, not an exclusive controller.
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I don't care about the latest slop games, I just want to play old games. So I'll never have to worry about performance issuss
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>>741677272
Why? And don't say because you're Indian and get paid by Epic.
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>>741643848
This was a real opportunity to bring Linux for gaming forward and they fucked it up.
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>>741677541
I've been playing GTAIV on my Steam Deck and somehow it runs better on SteamOS than my Windows 11 PC. A few older windows 7 games just seem to actually run without errors too. So the fact that the Steam machine is like 6 times stronger just means that these old games are going to run flawlessly at higher res and settings.
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>>741644161
AMD must be laughing their asses off that they got someone to buy this bottom of the barrel "custom" APU made from scrap parts that have been rejected for every other use case.
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>>741644789
Feels like karma somehow.
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>Setup hiccups
Wasn't a smooth set-up pretty much this thing's entire plan of attack?
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>A wonderful design

It's a box.
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>>741645053
Worth pointing out that this thing costs more than the most expensive Steam Machine and that's without adding any RAM or storage
https://store.minisforum.com/products/minisforum-atomman-g7-pro-gaming-pc?variant=47408341582069&country=US&currency=USD&utm_medium=product_sync



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