Stop dreaming about making a video game and do it
I hate video games and people that play video games.Why would I ever want to make a game?
i dreamt about making a video game as a teenagerthen i became a neet incel
>learning to codeIn my dreams
I'm doing it, but very slowly.
>>741657759Maybe when I get fired (aka never) and even then I'd probably rather do day trading watching lines go up and down sounds like more fun desu
>>741657759on it
I unironically have zero ideas for my own game. I'm not creative at all.
>>741657839why are you here?
>>741657759All of my time goes to research work and whatever freetime I have I use on scientific side projects.
I made 10 already1 x RPG Maker 951 x RPG Maker 20002 x RPG Maker 20032 x RPG Maker VX Ace4 x Ren'py
>>741657759I can barely bring myself to get up in the morning. I'm drawing up blueprints in my head but I doubt I'll ever actually work on them.
>>741657759There was a time where I thought this image of betraying the Chinese bitcoin miner scam game Tree of Wisdom was a hallucination.
>>741657759ive made and released multiple free games and they've been decently popular
>>741657759Do you guys think it's safe to play this game if I'm only 24?
Nigga you don't understand. For my entire adult life I have dreamed of making video games, I have design documents and notes and endless iterations and refinements of ideas I've crafted over the years. I know, without a shadow of a doubt, I was meant to make game, even though I take to learning code like a fish takes to motor oil. But it isn't the learning prospect that stays my hand, it's the terror of what happens if it doesn't work out. This dream has stayed with me for as long as I can remember, and if I put my heart and soul into a game only for it to languish in obscurity, it will actually kill me. The thought of my dream stories amounting to a wet fart that no one cares about genuinely depresses me, and if it came to pass I would unironically kill myself. To spare myself that pain, I procrastinate. It hurts that I have no game after all this time, but it's the lesser of the pains at this point.
>>741657759I'm working on it!
>>74165934725+ only, you wouldn't understand it.
>>741659956DO. YOU. REALIZE?
>>741659789>it's the terror of what happens if it doesn't work out.start young. a project being a flop is a lot less existentially terrifying when it occurs in your youth and you have an unknown path stretching before you.
>>741657759I have some breed of terminal retardation that makes it so I can only program vidya in spreadsheets, which means all I can do is mod Diablo 2. The idea of programming RPGs in anything but a spreadsheet is so absurd to me that I cannot do it. If someone made an engine based on Diablo 2's spreadsheet softcoding with less hardcoded jank, then I'd make some vidya, starting by softcoding and opensourcing the entirety of Diablo 2, but I'll die first.
>>741657759How is the tree supposed to defend itself? Or is that the point?
>>741660167>start young.I'm 36. Too late for that.
>>74166038636 is the new 16
>>741657759I want to make a party-based, turn-based RPG where battles take place on two separate grids (think Megaman Battle Network); what engine/tool/whatever should I use?
>>741657759Nah, the idea will stay in my head where it belongs.
>>741660539gzdoom
>>741660314If you chop it down, it wins.
>>741657759the hard truth of gamemaking is that for vast majority of proper devs who tried their hand at it the end result wasn't really the point. coming in everyday to ply your craft for the team and to be rewarded with camaraderie(and money), that was 90% what they got out of it. the finished game is more like a graduation party.doing that alone, with no gold in the pot till the very end, it takes a very dedicated creative to stick with that, not for the faint of spirit. even kojima got to shoot the shit with the boys everyday besides having all the technical minutia taken care of for him.
>>741660685i wish i could shoot kojima
Play old games first. From early 2000s and 1990s
>>741657759Me but with a webcomic. I'm a decent artist but looking at the young artists that publish their cartoons and comics demoralizes me since they started young and still have this youthful vigor... And also an audience that they've built since they were teens... And also they finished an art school... And also probably have parents who support them... Well, nevermind.What I'm trying to say is that I'm a 28 yo unc, a have-been, an old geezer. Alex Ross worked on Kingdom Come when he was younger than me. I can't imagine starting now, especially since I have a full time job and all.Sometimes the right thing to do is to throw in a towel and admit that you are a mediocrity and not a creative at all. Talent is real, and so is neuroplasticity.
>>741660947Too old and clunky
>>741658363he's le epic redpiller who comes here to "educate" us
>>741661054Well that's a yikes from me, champ.
>>741657759I am :> it's a clunky barely functional ugly POS but it's coming along!
Honestly we should all have a bit of Cris-style delusion, even though all he makes is unfinished crap, he does it every single day. It's a bit admirable in that sense.
>>741661509Keep it up, anon! You can do this!
>>741659789I don't know if this is serious or not. Either way, don't be gay, Anon.Negative criticism only affects you the first few times. After that, you get used to it and even start to have fun when you see some angry Anons bashing your game.Human beings can get used to anything. There are parents who've lost children and still move o, so it's not going to be some criticism (usually from some completely retarded guy) that's going to destroy a person.And yeah, it doesn't feel good at first. Sometimes you'll even lose sleep wondering what you did wrong, but just pick yourself up the next day and keep working.
too hard. I need friends to do the computer stuff with, and I'm bad at making friends.
Nah too busy jerking it to Kefla in the 'log
>>741662417He outsourced all his efforts and creativity to the machine. He isn’t any faster nor has he finished, but now he can’t even say it’s his
>>741659956he got more pussy than his enemies in the end
>>741662939considering the pussy, i think i'd rather just die a virgin with rage
>>741657759We need less people making video games. The market is severely oversaturated. Less indieslop and less mobileslop would the best thing for everyone.
>>741662939I mean he gave himself one yeah, that's not ideal though.
>>741657759I have moved on to making spreadsheets for required assets and my design doc is probably just about there? I have accepted that my art is what I'm bringing to the tableI have my eyes set on learning c# to make my game in, but I'm learning c first because I heard that it helps. I did a little looking in c# and it does seem to have overlap. Since I started learning c, Ill just keep going. I'm using w3 school
>>741660685>even KojimaAlmost all of his games were made by Konami.
>>74166101428 isn't too late. I started several years later, without any talent or experience, and I managed to make things work out. I'd be much happier, more experienced, and have a lot more money in the bank right now if I'd started at 28....
>>741657759Start with Pong.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUb5Pw8FHow
I've gotten to the point where I'll either make a video game at last, or I'll die trying.I've already got my hands on stimulants, I've got testosterone on the way, I'm maxing out my vitamins B & D, and I might get myself on iodine, too.Point is, I'm done feeling miserable, and I'm done watching brats half my age sprint past me.If there's fentanyl and lead on any of these, so be it.
>>741664328You ain't making shit, druggie.
>>741664492Watch me.
>>741664809You look like a balding meth addict.
>>741664869True, and yet, I don't give a shit.
>>741658363Just to suffer
>>741657759I tried to get in to it, and discovered that every aspect of it was learnable and enjoyable other than visual art. I just don't enjoy 3D modeling enough to spend such a vast amount of time on it, and 2D art is arcane bullshit that no one in all of human history seems to have managed to explain very well.
>>741662701I agree, but that's the thing. It isn't negative criticism that I am afraid of, because at least then people are talking about my games and I can learn for the future. It's a total indifference to my work that worries me, that my hard work is neither praised nor damned, just completely ignored and written off as just another unimportant game in the ever-growing pile of forgettable vidya.
only marketing mattersyou can waste 10 years hand crafting your soulful dream masterpiece and 5 people will play it and leave negative reviews because they get filtered by the first puzzle or something and when you recommend it to people they'll just fluoride stare at youthen some random piece of crap made in 1 week in unity will somehow go viral because one unfunny streamer shilled it to his retarded kid audience
>>741658005Just vibe-code. It doesn't matter if your tetris clone runs at 30FPS on a 5090.
>>741665943nah you are just jaded
>>741666026This but unironically. Don't forget that most of the most highly regarded indie games of recent memory have been made with retarded spaghetti code. No one cares about the backend as long as the content is functional and fun.
>can't draw>can't program>can't make musicwhat can i do
>>741666393AI, vibe coding, and Suno.
>>741666579can't wait to play that kino
>>741658496based wegGOD. keep up the good work my man
>>741666579i'd rather mcnutt myself than resorting to sloppa
>>741660947For games made by one or two people you have to search for NES, SNES and PC Engine titles. Also browser games obviously.
Every single game idea I have is "x but with y!" so I think I'll pass.
>>741657759One look at itchio says that you should be telling people to stop making games.
>>741666393Use AI which can do all those 3 things you can't do.
>>741667197Every single game in existence is derivative, but don't let that stop you.
>>741665943>only marketing mattersThat's not entirely true.I've had a Patreon for many years, and I recently surpassed 10,000 followers (the vast majority of whom don’t pay me anything, otherwise I'd be rich by now). My marketing strategy consists of doing absolutely nothing: I don't post on any social media, I don't have a YouTube channel, and so on.In fact, I have no idea how 10,000 people around the world found me.
Unironically what's a good 3D engine and language for a total newb? Also how much code is already available online for "basic" shit like physics engines or mechanics present in a bunch of games like jumping?
>>741657759I want to, but people are going to hate it because I used AI for coding and textures.
>>741657759ive tried making games multiple times but it turns out you need to have extreme talent in multiple fields to do that. just coding doesnt work because you need art assets. and then you need music too. if you lack in any of these areas nobody will play your game because there are 99999999 games being made per minute.
>>741658005doesnt AI can code your game for you pretty much?
>>741657759I don't think ai slop is good enough to code the game i wantI tried learning to code myself which just made me depressed about the whole ordeal
>>741658292Are you American?
>>741666579Suno I would never recommend, literally zero control and the results are giga generic. For coding you can pretty much use any major chat out there. For art I don't really know, but I hear doing it locally gives you more control over the result.
>>741666393you can spend time to learn one of those skills instead of jerking off penises
>>741658005Coding is not even hard. Especially easy for making video games. You have just never tried it and most tutorials are just awful.Video game coding is basically just math. And not hard math, pretty much 5th grade math. Lol.
>>741660030Have you played it? Reminder: you MUST.
>>741657759Not gonna work. Even if you had an idea and could code how you are going to do stuff like music and art? You have three options.1. Do it yourself and delay things and it will still be shit2. Hire someone and drain your game's budget before you have a single sale and that's the best case scenario3. Use AI for a few things and sent to the AI leper colony where Indian asset flips are
>>741670851
>>741657759I could learn to program it, but what about art?
>>741657759i don't care about making games, idc about programming modelling etc, i only care about playing them. i just want my dream game to exist already so i can play it. yes i am entitled
no one will play my game
>>741657839You're in the right place cause your average /v/edditor is like that too.
>>741670851You can look for some royalty-free music. Astlibra is made with music like that, and people like it.Art depends on what you're trying to do. If your goal is to make an artistic game but you don't know how to create anything, then it's impossible. But you can get away with ugly visuals if you make up for it in other areas. One easy area to make up for is writing. Good characters and storytelling can make people grow attached even to stick figures...
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>>741660314>He doesn't know
>>741657759why waste time learning the stupid parts of game development like programming in a UI, character movement, and item interactions when I could wait a couple years for AI to have full integration with UE6/Godot, Unityin the mean time I'd rather just continue practicing writing, worldbuilding, and drawing
>>741657759I am over 32 years old. I have had the same dreams for games when I was 20 years younger. I can play this game, but my games will never be.
>>741657759I did and it failed. Might try again after having some savings. Gotta figure out how to avoid purity schizos since I wanna make a fanservicey one.
>>741658292My buddy played your demo, he said it was good.
>>741657759I quit computer science in college...I suck at coding. But one day, i will make a game...
I showed my projects to AI to validate and it completely crushed them, it was 1000% valid criticismall game ideas are "old game, but female character", it absolutely put me in my place and called me a pervert coomer, now I have to rethink my whole life
>Try making a game>End up getting really into it, spending all my free time after work and on the weekends working on it>Start getting burned out after a few months>Realize the game I want to make will take at least 10+ years to make as a solodev while also being a full-time wageslave>Will need to give up vidya and all my other hobbies to realistically complete it>Slowly stop working on gameMaybe one day when I'm no longer a wagie...
>people complain about the programming being too difficult>paralyzed by choice of language, graphics engines, game engines, etc.>don't realize the solution has been here all along>$100 or so for a used one, $300 for a brand new one that'll even work with your infernal flatshit displayONE configuration, ONE disk drive or tape, ONE language (plus assembly), ONE VIC-II, ONE SID chip.It's custom built so even a small child can get a basic game going, including sprites and joystick and shooting and collision and sound and everything, in a few hours. And it has everything you need to make any kind of game which you'd like.
>>741663230He fucked the one he fell out of too.
>>741657759No. Im writing a science fantasy book set in interwar Europe that places a heavy emphasis on horror instead. Try to stop me, you wont.
when AI gets good enough
I wanna make a weg with osrs graohics
>>741664931Would you like to share your goku perc with me?
>>741657759my video game idea was already made this steam next fest so why bother
>>741674000>all game ideas are "old game, but female character"what exactly is wrong with making a copy of a successful game and having a hot character instead
>>741676828it basically said I was doing the female character as a fetish and I should instead focus on making games that are good
>>741678993you can do both at the same time pretty easily, thats why stellar blade and nier automata exist
>>741657759just in time for the gaming market crash!
>>741676768this guy released a survivors type game even though the original came out 3 years prior
>>741680318If the market crashes, indie devs are in the best possible position to pick up the pieces and build a new industry. The Great Vidya Reset is nigh.
My dream video games are financial suicide. The smartest thing to do is just leave them as dreams.
>>741657759I remember when this fucking tree started getting posted around when I was 19-20. Im 28 now
>>741657759The best indie game to come out last year currently has 11 reviews on Steam. Why bother
i have a cool game idea but learning how to manually program a game in 2026 sounds like learning how to ride a horse right before cars are invented
>>741680541im not against it.bring on the creative destruction
>>741658292Based
>>741680691next stop, 40
>>741657759I want to make a first person platformer with a heavy focus on german and russian techno with a matrix/deus ex/blade aesthetic and gameplay similar to doom eternal and ghostrunner but then I realized first person speed platformers and movement shooters are pumped out by the thousands daily and now I'm trying to figure out what the fuck else I could make it to not have it be so genericalso the main character is going to be a furry femboy black catboy with a human bf and incredibly violent tendencies it's deliberately meant to pander to furfags because I am one probably gonna do ps2 style grafixs because those are easywas gonna use unity as well for ease of use but then this guys video got recommended to me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6OTa8RU4bg and I discovered the reason why UE5 games are so unoptimized is because of a lot of devs over reliance of blueprints and neglecting to learn the code to optimize their games so I'm thinking about using UE5 instead
>>741683023Hey manRope is free
>Made a game>Cold-pitched to a publisher>Actually got feedback and invited to submit a proposalI'm gonna make it bros :)
>>741657759I've made countless prototypes and 3 albums in the name of vidya. I always struggle with 3D visual related things and I'm too autistic to build a companionship centred around workload.I no longer have dreams of making games but I do have dreams of expressing myself through games, all I need is super metroid.
>>741683307gl big dog
>>741657759I'm one guy and poor what am I supposed to do load up RPGMaker?
>>741683221maybe don't lean too much on the y2k stuff, or at least look for a more niche source of inspiration within it. Right now it seems the popular thing is futurism but obviously that wasn't the only style back then
Ok, niggers.I have a really novel concept for a card game.Which engine should i use?No. I dont know how to code.
>>741683570Klik & Play
>>741683397I guess other inspirations would be Ergo Proxy and Texhnolyze or anything by nihei tsutomu but those are also decently popular, I'll keep it in mind, I don't want it to be just another dark scifi indie shovelware game but I still fuck heavy with the y2k theme
38yo unc here. I want to publish my sci-fi short story anthology before 40. Godspeed to the zoomers with ambition. We're all going to make it.
>>741683620It has two decks and like 3 resources with very important variations.Maybe it's too ambitious for that engine.
I don't have any good ideas
>>741657759HOW
I made a VN with minigames, does that count...?
>>741685115you dont have to be original, just look at an existing game and say "what i just took this exact game but used the setting of this other world"vermintide/darktide exist because the devs thought it would be cool to make left 4 dead but in the warhammer universe and that was the entire concept
>>741685373>VN
>>741685653Yeah I could come up with something like thatbut I would need a really great idea if I'd want to spend a decade of my life working on it, something that would make money too
>>741657759i have an idea but i will never tell you
>>741657759I have an idea but i don't know how
I'm already working on a Doom mod
>>741670851my idea for art is to train AI from drawings I make myself even though i draw at a 3rd grade level
>>741685115dont get hung up on the idea that for something to be impressive creatively it needs to be a completely new idea. A lot of hack writers fall into that trap and are so focused on trying to subvert expectations they forget to write a good story. Same thing with games, the creative process where you make an idea work is the impressive part, more so than the idea itself. Take a game like palworld where its basically just "Pokemon if open world and had guns", the idea itself sounds basic and stupid but designing an actual game around it is the creative part.
>>741676000>random old hardwareget with the times, grandpa.No one wants Pixel shit in this day and age.
>>741678993Don't listen to Ai, it's infested with the woke virus. Say anything insulting about a group of people and it will lecture you.
>>741673228I had an idea for a game back when I was 9, because they announced a game I was interested for an IP I liked. I assumed the game would play a certain way to be more like the TV show but it was something completely different. No one has made a game like my idea yet and I have been thinking of it off and on for a while.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-sfG8BV8wU
>>741684639You don't have to abandon it entirely just add it your own flavor with something not so obvious, like the baiolenja dev who decided to throw some bionicle style robots just because, and it works. Good luck with your game anon.
Welp, after exploring numerous concepts, I finally settled on the concept of my game: a tavern builder game. Beneath is the first scene.The character portrait has some issues, which I will correct today or tomorrow. At the moment, AI portraits, AI voice, because I needed to test this concept and I am not going to spend 10k on an idea that does not work. If affordable, I want to replace those AI placeholders, but we will see. For now, it does the trick. Anything 3D models are done by artists.Never stop believing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xkx4VuiVirY
I'm trying, but it's hard to stay motivated with how oversaturated the indie scene has become and all the AI shit being pumped out.
>>741688313This has potential. The mood of the environment is definitely the best part. Have you considered zooming in on the character models instead of 2D portraits?
>>741688510Thank you!The character models have automated lip synching and there is a third person mode. See youtube link below. I could go for render textures i.e. a camera pointed at the 3D models for the dialogue portraits, but it does not have the same charm, if you ask me. See screenshot for that. https://youtu.be/RizCEK_0hwU
>>741657759I've had a lot of fun blocking out levels but now that I need to make the assets to replace the grey boxes I'm faced with nothing but PS1 slop tutorials and the Blender donut tutorial that basically didn't teach me anything.
>>741657759>every idea I have at minimum would take at least a team of skilled devs to maketoo much of a dreamer unfortunately.
>>741657759If I don't make a game nobody can pirate it
>>741668923Suno can be fucking insane if you throw your own DAW rough drafts at it. Too bad it always fucks up so many minor details and wants to mangle melodies half the time. Fuck ever directly using its output but I highly recommend it for reference material and idea farming if you're enough of a shameless goober shithead to sub.
Haven't made a game yet, but I do like modding.
>>741657759>Can't code>Can't into art>Can into music just a bit but not as a real skill>Can't really into proper writing like in stuff such as Disco Elysium, MGS, or even stuff like UT/DT + I'm ESL>Got ideas, but that is just a human trait>Don't have real grasp of proper game design.And>Refuse to use AI because I'm a luddite/trans/leftists etc.So I don't really stand a chance when it comes to vidya market. Even bigger problem is that I don't want to make money with any """art""" that I would create. So that is ideologically against current vidya market and not smart.
>>741658363Why wouldn't he be?
>>741657759I already did
>>741657759okay! i will!*uses AI*
>>741668923I've been using AI art genning for gooning and it's really not that good, can't do shit with it besides CGI stills and even those don't look that good
>>741657759Every time I think about the amount of effort and time it would go into making a game as a solo dev even if using store bought assets and AI, I just realize it's not worth it, and whatever I make would probably suck anyway.Also, nobody would play it since I am an asocial aspie with 0 social media presence and I don't even use discord.So, if I am going to toil for countless hours only to make some shitty broken game that is going to rot on steam alongside "totally not a money laundering op" and "sexy baccarat simulator" I'd rather just do something else.
>>741690215there's so many non-AI indie games and videos of indies making games in 2 weeks, it surely can't be that hard
>>741690248But I don't want to make a deck-based roguelite with ironic ms paint graphics and "lore". I'd want to make an actual video game.
>>741668923I wish there was some AI where you can hum something into it and (through your instructions) it will take care of instrumentation/effects, learning a DAW is a major pain in the ass
>>741689686My brother.
>>741674082Can't you trim the game down a bit to something smaller and more manageable?
>>741657759How do I learn to draw/sprite cute girls? Don't wanna use AI.
>>741657759You know what you’re right
>>741690996It's like any other skill you learnYou do it, you look at where you fucked things up and you try to do it again until you get it right
>>741657839That's most of the western AAA industry.
>>741660386No shame in that, most indie games were released by people in their late twentiesAs long as you're not paralyzed and mute and blind at the same time you can do it.Just a matter of why do it. For money? You're better off with a job (until your games bring bags).For self creative and logic skill improvement? Yea. For sending some message/agenda to the world? Sure, if it takes off.For sense of achievement like any other hobby? Yes.
>>741680541>The Great Vidya Reset is nigh.>if I keep saying it its bound to happen
