>sold 8m copies in the time it took Metaphor to sell 2m copies>made on a shoestring budget compared to Metaphor which had a big AAA budgetWhy did Metaphor lose and get raped so hard?
a steam machine thread died for this
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>>741657812You see this site lose something like 70% traffic over the last two years, see threads like these, and say yeah I see why No one fucking cares
>>741657812>shoestring budget from billionaire daddy's trust fundhehe people who worship nepobabies are serfs
>>741657812metaphor is tranny wokeslope33 is a game with bigger fish to fry
>Kike industry plant devs and game
>>741657974that was already debunked tranny
>>741657963Yea it's the e33 thread and not the 600 threads pissing and crying over a PC price.
>>741657974But enough about Mixtape.
>>741657812Put simply, E33 had vision and a team behind it capable of realizing that vision.Metaphor lacked vision. What started as this bold proclamation of 'we're Atlus and we're gonna make a fantasy jarpig OUR WAY!' just ended up as a lukewarm not-Persona. It had the desire to have a vision.
>>741657963Good riddance to them
>>741657812Expedition 33 was an obligatory purchase for the people who hate Japanese games.Most people hate Japanese gamesDo the math.
I bought metaflop because of e33 and then i started playing persona breddy good/10
>>741657963>>741657974>>741658059Have you ever thought that maybe the game was just good and people like to talk about it?No that would be ridiculous right? Everyone who talks about it is a shill and nobody actually likes the game
>>741658143we have this thread everyday.
>>741659674NO! I NEED TO BE A RAGING FAGGOT TENDIE MAD THAT ANOTHER VIDEO GAME COMPANY EXISTS SIMILIAR TO HOW I WILL NEVER BE A WOMANX
>>741659738>muh gwaphics and performanceno one cares faggot
>shoestring budgetthis lie again
>10+ million dollars>"shoestring"
>>741657812>made on a shoestring budget Completely wrong
>>741657812Metaphor is one of the ugliest games I've ever seen. The character and monster designs are just awful.
>>741659674You didnt address my post at all. I never claimed the game was bad or nobody liked it. At least you arent assmad like the Lil homo here >>741660112
>>741660201In all honesty, for a game of E33's scope $10M is not a whole lot of money.
>>741657812I doubt Metaphor was made to compete against it, but a Hollywood shilled and multimillionare funded "indie" was bound to blow the fuck up anyway.
>>741657974This fanfic doesn't work when the various steps of how the game was made are documented.
>>741659674>the game was just good and people like to talk about it?If that were true people would talk about the game itself; instead every single E33 thread is about things that have nothing to do with the game itself. E33 is basically Bad Rats: a shitpost game that only exists as a joke / protest purchase and a bait topic.
>>741660602>shit I made up: the postPeople constantly talk about the story. There’s a whole feud between verso and maellefags you disingenuous cunt
>>741658150E33 is literally the same as Mixtape: a Nepobaby vanity project funded by rich daddy masquerading as an indie project and cocksucked by every single critic.
Expedition's budget (121m) is like five times higher than Metaphor, get the fuck outta here
>>741660602Your mistake is thinking most games can get genuine discussion here on /v/ outside of their release window. Every game without fail falls to the shitter outside of that.
>>741660701>source: my ass
>>741660640>People constantly talk about the storySo the ONLY thing some people talk about is the thing that you can experience via Youtube / Tvtropes and don't need to play the game to get it? Pretty telling.
>>741657812Metaphor being anime shit doesn't make E33 any better. They're both overrated games.
>>741660602E33 fans have just had their quality standards elevated so high that they are now rightfully offended by a dreadful cardboard game like Metaphor trying to sell for $99.99 when it should cost $10
>>741660716/v/ didn't talk about E33 (the game itself) during launch either. It was the same shitposting threads bragging about the game selling a fuckton and getting 10/10 everywhere and being a based Right Wing videogame.
>>741659674why isn't anyone in the thread talking about e33 being good then
>another E33 seethe threadDamn it's like the people who hate this game are literally the same as the tencent schizo who hate BG3
>>741660872false and retarded
>>741660771you want people to constantly talk about a turn based combat system? Are you retarded?
>>741657812What is it that makes E33 so good? Surely you can answer that, and no chatgpt allowed.
>>741660889Almost like this thread was made specifically to bait rage discussion. Being disingenuous doesn’t help your case.
>>741660918Post that screenshot where someone posted a Witcher? / Dragon's Dogma? screenshot and the guy replied with his usual anti-BG3 rant.
>>741660531>Hollywood shilled and multimillionare funded "indie"This was disproven countless times you braindead vtumor retard.
>>741661009Good visuals, smooth animations, engaging story with deep characters and questions, fun parry turn based gameplay if you enjoy turn based combat
Finishing this was like closing a great novel after you've read it. You're just stunned. The story is fairly simple but it's elevated by these rich complex characters and everyone is unique and add to the overall whole It's masterfully done. Really just have to experience it, I don't want to disparage games you like but c'mon a lot stock jrpg anime characters are just so cartoony and lack depth and groundedness.
>>741660978No, I want people to talk about a turn based combat system at least just once. Meanwhile E33 had 0 threads actually discussing the game. Even the Steam forums were full of shitposting for and against the game and no one actually talked about the game itself.
>>741660201That's roughly the same budget as Journey, for reference (accounting for inflation).
>>741661009>intriguing story and world>great dialogue>fun combat system>pretty characters>Esquie>an ending worth talking aboutIt's been a year since I've finished it so might have fogotten something.
>>741661009Top-tier story, writing, characters, artstyle, soundtrack, combat system, really satisfying real-time dodge/parry mechanics combined with turn-based tactics/strategy, absolutely incredible and challenging bossfights, can make a lot of satisfying builds and it's fun mixing different pictos around.It's basically all the best aspects of a great JRPG with none of the garbage that weighs the genre down like gay anime artstyle, nonsensical story, random encounters, constant grinding, or nonsensical progression where you just talk to every tom, dick, and harry in each town to arbitrarily advance the story.
>>741657812>Shoestring budget>10 millionbuy an add maybe more chinks and indians will buy it then.
Parryslop
>>741661180It’s really easy to claim this when you’ve never played the game and thus can’t see what actual game discussion is because all you look for is the trash discussion to confirm your own retardation.I for one saw the exact opposite of what you are saying on launch. Guess you are wrong
>>741661180so you checked every single E33 thread? that's a weird obsession unless you're a lying pos
>>741661047Oh sure, the intricate and intimate affairs of a private new studio run by a nepo baby, son of a multimillionaire have all been made of public knowledge, with every single penny transparently declared and audited and being completely honest about it. Surely anon, tell me more.
>>741661419That was already debunked you fucking 70 IQ brown retard. That was a completely different person.
>>741661028He recently confused fucking Dragon Age for BG3
>>741657812JRPGs should grow along with the people who play them. E33 managed to tell a story that resonated with adults and Metaphor didn’t. It also illustrates the underlying issue of stagnation in the genre where the player is assumed to be a literal child or in high school, which is far from true in reality and there is plenty of data that confirms this.
>>741661315I played the game on launch. Didn't even need to avoid /v/ to not get spoiled (even when I took a lot of t ime to finish the game I got the Act 2 twist unspoiled) because the threads were nothing but shitposting.To be fair it's not an E33-exclusive issue; Very, very few games get actual discussion on /v/, be on launch or never. >>741661320Just looking at the catalog was enough. Nothing but bait "LOOK AT THESE JOUNO SCORES!" / "JRPGs done right!" / "Look at how white those developers are" threads.
>still seething about Metaphor>in two separate threadsThe P4R and P6 announcements really mindbroke the "Fatlus" haters, huh
Funny how neither metaphor or expedition 33 threats have anything gameplay in them kek
>>741661649lmao so you're admitting that you're a lying pos. Good.
>>741661028Gimme sec gotta dig through the archives since I didn't save it
>>741661649/v/ was down on launch you dumbfuck. And /vee/ did discuss the game right after 4chan came back up, for somewhere between 3-7 days before shitposters took over.
>>741661653There is no seethe, only disappointment over what could have been.
>>741657812significantly higher budget shilling campaign
>>741661862Oh yeah, now I remember it was around the same time as the PDF hack. And no, there was never a period of time when the game was genuinely discussed. Those "3-7 days" never existed.
normies, next question
>>741661775Pretty much. I'm pretty sure no one has played either game.
>>741658205what exactly is the vision behind e33? JRPG but with normgroid UE5 graphics?
>>741662041>normies
>>741657957me too
You anons are also conveniently forgetting that people bought Expedtion 33 as an act of protest and boycott against the AAA developers in general and Ubisoft in particular.Remember when people hatefunded Mighty No.9 in the wake of Capcom cancelling Legends 3? Same thing. It's not about wanting a game but about sending a message.
>>741662131>rallying behind E33you don't care about games, west or other
>>741657812>>741661143>>741661254Lorien is in this thread
>>741662091>I wonder what could be the vision behind a game named after chiaroscuro and whose main characters are all named after paintersGee, I dunno anon
>>741662208the CEO of sandfall is an ex-ubisoft manager. He's an industry insider and comes from a multi-million dollar family. nothing about the game is a protest to AAA
>>741657812Pragmata is even worse and it's made by one of the biggest studios in the world.
>>741662278nobody purchased the game because of character names
>>741657812The characters talked like real adults (aside Maelle, who is supposed to be an angsty teen) and not as generic anime tropes.
>>741660693you lost tranny
>>741657812>why are marvel movies popular
>>741662381Nigger he quit the failing AAA company because he was stuck making derivative slop, only to independently make his own indie game with his peers that was a massive critical and commercial success while Ubisoft continues to flounder.How the fuck is that not a protest to AAA?Are you mad he's not a McDonald's burger flipper who made the game on a thinkpad he found in the garbage?
>>741661192that really puts in perspectivespecially if you consider how shallow journey was, not only in its themes and how they are showed but specially in terms of gameplay and being 2 hours longand i say this as someone that think journey was ok
>>741662381>the CEO of sandfall is an ex-ubisoft manager. Exactly. He painted himself as "a poor developer who was fired from bad evil Ubisoft because he wanted to make artistic masterpieces and Ubisoft only cares about the money" >He's an industry insider and comes from a multi-million dollar family. nothing about the game is a protest to AAAHe used his rich dad's money to fund a massive marketing campaign that made people believe Expedition 33 was an "indie" game. Combine both and that's how they managed to exploit the videogame consumer base's frustration towards AAA companies and Ubisoft to get them to buy their product.
>>741657812The VGA giving it infinite dick sucking that year probably helped.
>>741661903>what could have beenThe developers openly admitted that they were just doing discount Dragon Quest. We didn't miss anything.
>>741662643Pic related was a cinematographic abomination and still it was one of the most critically acclaimed movies of all time, getting perfect scores and tons of awards everywhere, from Oscars to Golden Globes. If you lobby hard enough everyone will praise your product regardless of quality.
>>741662625>He used his rich dad's money to fund a massive marketing campaign that made people believe Expedition 33 was an "indie" game.How many times do you have to be told this was fake news misinformation that was debunked multiple times. That was a completely different person.
>>741662595>only to independently make his own indie game"independently" with multi-million dollar investments from his family and Kepler Interactive?
>>741662853This tranny movie was pushed to own the chuds.
>>741662871>debunkedThe game presented itself as an indie to the point where it won the Indie GOTY award and the only reason it got disqualified was due to the growing anti-AI stance among videogame consumers.
>>741662871wronghttps://www.pappers.fr/dirigeant/guillaume_broche_1992-05
>>741663117Indie has never literally meant self-published, otherwise Witcher 3 and BG3 would be indies while devolver digital and raw fury games would not be
>>741663242here comes the gay deflection >actually indie means whatever I say it means!
>>741663239That's not the same guy retard, there are hundreds of people with the same name>>741662885Yes, that's how the world works. Usually one man cannot finance an entire game unless it's incredibly basic or he's already a multi-millionaire. He makes a compelling proof of concept and investors help him realize that vision and take a share of the profits in return.
>>741663413>That's not the same guy retard, there are hundreds of people with the same name
>OP got scared into making this thread because his other metaphor thread had too many people posting sources easily contradicting every lie he came up with loving every laugh This is an FF7 fanboy who made this thread btw, gives no fucks about E33
>nepo baby industry plant game still has forced threads being made about it after it was forgotten in january
>>741663413wrong again, did you even clock the link? Broche's family are known owners of MYRTE INVEST.
>>741663659To be fair, Myrte Invest is not part of the shill handbook so he has no idea what that is or means or how to respond to it. The handbook's a little out of date, please be patient
The game is greater than the sum of its parts.Same goes for AI Limit tbqhfmb.
>>741663913This is just another way of saying "I had an entirely personal reason to put this thing on a pedestal regardless of how good it actually was but I want to make my opinion sound way more objective than it actually is"
It's pretty neat that a rich man uses his money to fund a videogame, because unlike rich people luxuries like mansions or yachts the average Joe can enjoy said game. I just find presenting yourself as an indie developer to be dishonest when you aren't an independent developer: you formed a company, not different from the Electronic Arts, Ubisofts, Square Enix and From Softwares of the world, to make that game so you aren't an "independent developer" at all.
>>741664265yep, agreed. they need to change their messaging
>>741660693Then how do you explain all the positive reviews on Steam? They are more than 250k. Does Sandfall purchased 250k copies, each on a fake account, and posted an original reply each time? Steam keys do not show up towards the counter. Which is it, anon?
>>741657812Didn't this game get literal grants from the nignogfrog government? How "indie"
>>741664661probably by paying people like Asmongold to say it's the second coming of Christ
>>741664661>Then how do you explain all the positive reviews on Steam?People hate the current state of the AAA industry and Ubisoft. People bought E33 and gave it positive reviews as a protest and a boycott against said industry and said dogshit company. Note how almost all of the positive reviews were made within hours of the game's launch, which makes no sense given how it's a 50 hours game. Unless you don't care about the game itself and more about the message you want to send towards Ubisoft and its cronies.
>>741664889asmongold literally talks about metaphor more than he does about slop33 lol
>>741664661clickfarms do that, yes. devs are allowed to give out as many "review copies" they want.
>>741665019hmm I don't remember him saying metaphor is a top 10 game of all time
>>741664757I find interesting how indie games funded by third world country government grants are very different from games funded by first world country government grants. >First world grant: funds "artistic" experiments / political statement projects; doesn't matter if they don't sell as long as they get awards and are "artistically significant">Third world grant: funds straightforward games with commercial appeal, aiming at creating something that sells and actually creates jobs.
>>741660693you lost lol
>>741665104It needs to be purchased through Steam, retard.
>>741664907>Note how almost all of the positive reviews were made within hours of the game's launch, which makes no sense given how it's a 50 hours game. ?
>>741665540Now remove the filters and compare the numbers.
>Witcher 3>Baldurs Gate 3>Expedition 33What is it with euro ludokino and the number 3??
>>741665705>metro 2033think ur onto something anon
>>741661009combat system holds up for most of one playthrough, allowing the good plot/music to shine.
>>741665678Like this?Filter is from 24th of april 2025 to 1st may 2025.
>>741662381/pol/jeets are retarded goycattle who fall for grifters and scams constantly like a bunch of dumbfuck boomers. They shill this garbage like it's some pro natsoc game made by an unabashed ethno-nationalist and not some turbofaggot who supports the browning of his own country.
>>741660693indie doesn't mean "i'm poor", it means without the influence of a big publisher.
>>741666023>it means without the influence of a big publisher.Sandfall has enough money to buy Sony's State of Play airtime. That shows they're a BIG publisher.
>>741666164And yet pre-release they didn't have enough money to buy a spot on Dorito Pope's show
>>741666164sandfall is the dev retard. the publisher, kepler, is an indie collective, some rich people that throw money at games they think looks cool. the difference between "indie with money" and "AAA" is AAA publishers have boards micromanaging games to maximize shareholder profit from the end product and drowning out developer vision, and it's why they're mostly dogshit. indie games that are dogshit are because the dev's vision sucked, and if they're good it's because the dev had a good vision. say what you will about the end product of e33 but it was clearly the dev's passion project. next you'll say the other games kepler published aren't indie
>>741657957>>741662165enjoy your AIDS
>>741661009Landing long chains of parries hits my dopamine something fierce. I also really liked the characters. The banter between Verso and Monoco was top notch. This fight is my favorite moment between them.
>>741667539>please help me
