Uhhh wait, when the fuck did Dinos started to look like fucking raccoons.
>>741660269Science or something even though we got it wrong the first time
>>741660269that's a child you sick fuck
nigga you're late as hell we're on JWE 3 with fucked up gorilla t-rex now.
Reminder that the entire point of Jurassic Park is that they're generic abominations that are just approximations of what the creatures were supposed to look like, with patched up DNA from other animals. It's totally sensible you'll have variants of the same animal that look different.
This series really has no identity anymore. >We wanna keep the classic designs but were also gonna use the World colorization and updated touches>for new dinos were going to add a bunch of feathers and make them heavily detailed, with realistic movements Its the vision of three different periods of Jurassic Park fighting with each other. Its jarring to see the classic T.Rex encountering that ugly hybrid from World only to see a feathered new dinosaur in the background.
since 1996
I'm not a big fan of the idea of T-Rex having feathers but I can totally see how it makes sense that there is a point where therapod dinosaurs evolved feathers.
>>741662048I don't think feathers would survive that
You think they'd ever start adding prehistoric mammals or others things to future movies? I kinda want jwe but with cenozoic era animals but the only option I got is prehistoric kingdom and it's kinda shit.
>>741662191That's probably just an impression left behind. If you want stronger prof, here's a dino tail preserved in amber.
>>741662364Dimetrodon is the closest you'll get to a prehistoric animal from another period unassociated with dinos, but people also stupidly lump Dimetrodon in with dinosaurs to begin with. People have been duped into thinking mammalian animals or other types of cenozoic animals are lame. They don't even have appreciation for the animals that live now.
>>741660269When did you started to sound like a fucking retard? From birth?
>>741662364No, but they should. FFS, I can't believe the third World movie went and forced a plot about prehistoric insects.
>>741662549They added lystrosaurus as well and they had some kind of bat in jwe 2 so maybe it's not entirely impossible to happen. There's a decently large audience for stuff like that but you'd need to show the right stuff to grab attention because if you just show the typical mammoth and sabertooth you'd maybe get a fraction of them but show off some gorgonopsids, giant snakes, giant rhinos and sloths and you'd get some genuine interest.
>>741662048>>741662191>>741662473That settles it, the T-rex was a docile scavanger that avoided confrontation and cooed.
Are Carcharodontosaurids finally beating the generic large theropod allegations? Turns out a lot of them were doing weird things with their spines.
>>741662191They don't.You understand the difference between a fossil and an actual structure, right?
>>741664043>admitting the feathers are fakeyou just lost the argument
>>741660269he cute
>>741660269>>741662191>>741663384I know you all (or rather simply You) are posers who stopped caring about dinosaurs at 11
>franchises you're not allowed to talk about on /v/So tiresome...
>>741663384>That settles it, the T-rex was a docile scavanger that avoided confrontation and cooed.You ever see a chicken peck something smaller than it to death? Depends on what docile means to you.
>>741660269The new Tomb Raider has a feathered t rex too. Which is extra fucked up considering there's no evidence of larger dinosaurs having proto feathers. Pop-scientists just can't help themselves.
>>741660269is it an ass plug in tail, faggot?
>>741666267Most people don't think of chickens as predators when they've been associated with killing snakes, mice and rats. They just think "oh chicken is the animal in my grocery store."
>>741661824yeahdinos can't exist in reality, the atmosphere wouldn't support their biology so they must be heavily chimaeric
Most people et al are also retards
>>741663384
Science-tism and Science-tists
>>741663384it was the people in the 90's that said he was a scavenger you retardmodern paleontologists are the ones going "no actually fuck that, it was an active predator, also it had eagle+ tier vision, crazy sense of smell, and was one of the smartest dinosaurs we know of"$"oh and for the kids, T. Rex was a great dad so you can pretend your dad is a T. Rex"
>>741662473>the thing in that pic is older than the entire history of human civilisation x10.000
>>741666557>Most people don't think of chickens as predators when they've been associated with killing snakes, mice and rats. They just think "oh chicken is the animal in my grocery store."Chickens are one of those animals I cannot ever agree on vegans with. Cows I could see not consuming cows they have their uses, but chickens, the vicious little shits I will never give up eating chicken to my dying day. If there is animal that deserves to be factory farmed with all of it's myriad cruelties it is the chicken.
>>741666915just shows you how shit animals that aren't humans are desutotal losers
>>741666557>>741666267and those are just chickensanyone who's ever seen a proper rooster fight something knows for a fact dinosaurs never went extinct at some point they just forget fear is a thing and will tear something apart with their spurs even if they're currently bleeding from their everything
>>741666956what context do you even have where a chicken can be a "vicious little shit", all they can do is walk around and peck at shit
>>741667203they stumble upon a mouse and proceed to do things to it that would make even a cat go "who buddy slow down"
>>741667203>what context do you even have where a chicken can be a "vicious little shit", all they can do is walk around and peck at shitBuddy boy why do you think it's called a cockfight?
>>741667259>chickens are actually omnivores and will attack mice on sightdamn holy shit i didn't know. i'm vegetarian but you just made me reconsider.
I’m tired of wokesaurs
>>741662473How does religion explain this?
>>741667372if you leave a dead chicken in a coop the other chickens will eat itif you break an egg near a chicken they will eat itif you break too many eggs near chickens they get a taste for their own eggs and start eating the other chicken's eggs
>>741667203>gee, I sure hope a rooster doesn't knick me with these
>>741667372chickens are excellent for pest controlthey go for snakes too
>>741667203Chickens are capable of sweetness but also vicious and cruel. They are known to attack their own young for basically nothing and will get moody depending on the brooding cycle and attack humans. Their talons ARE sharp enough to cause some pretty nasty wounds if they get you too.
>>741667459one of the fucking funniest arguments i ever heard about fossil fuels was that abrahamic religions believe the earth is only around 2500-3000 years old, so obviously fossil fuels are actually renewable and entire ecosystems liquefy into crude oil way quicker than we thought, so we don't have to worry about it
>>741667459God put it there to test your faith
>>741660269>JWE2this game is five years old>>741667203i worked on a poultry farm in high school. chickens are mean and they're nasty. if you don't cut their spurs, they are absolutely capable of killing you. happens to fighting handlers all the time.
>>741667686that one actually isn't that funny, it's basically funded propaganda being funneled into them to get them to vote in favor of oil companiessame with any environmental regulation, "God wouldn't allow the environment to get poisoned so we don't need regulations because God will fix it" is a genuine argument they use
>>741667490What predatory species doesn't cannibalize? Hell even herbivores do it, male hippos are so demented they'll kill and eat their own young. People eat each other.
>>741666984funny, I was thinking how humbling it is to see something and know for a fact that it is 330 times older than the earliest homo sapiensall our empires and our history are but a wink in time
>>741667686That creation range is weirdo secular shit, like the 140,000 in heaven. Even the Catholic Church has no official stance on evolution and accepts both the traditional seven day creation tale as well as a created universe/guided evolution.
>>741667775>same with any environmental regulation, "God wouldn't allow the environment to get poisoned so we don't need regulations because God will fix it" is a genuine argument they useHappily ignoring the part where god explicitly said he created humanity and now we have to take care of it or the part where god was like "LOL, LMAO" get out of my garden and suffer.
>>741662473Is this the only preserved tissue of an ancient species we've found so far? I mean besides skeletons obviously, this thing is practically fresh off the corpse.
Most of this 'science' is made on gross speculation based on few samples here and there. Just like everything else related on ancient history of this planet.It's pretty much a ludicrous fantasy.
>>741667845What's the explanation for God having huge lizard-birds running around for millions of years before the earliest man walked around?
>>741660269>>741662048>>741662175>>741662473Science says only one single family of Dinos had feathers. Distant cousins of raptors. All this talk of feathered dinos didn't come from scientists, it came from retarded normies extrapolating things
>>741667845the official stance of the Catholic Church is flat out that the 7 day tale is allegorical, aint no such thing as biblical literalism in the catholic faithalso interesting is that the Catholic church has actively made an official statement on alien life, in that if it exists it was also created by God and any intelligent aliens either have or will be visited by their version of Jesus
>>741667895depends on how ancient you mean I guesswe got fully preserved wooly mammoths, that’s probably the next closest thing but they aren’t nearly that old
>>741667203I owned backyard chickens a few years ago until a fox killed most of them and I just donated the rest to a local farmer.>the roosters rape literally everything, sometimes harming the hens>one of my hens would peck the eyes out of any chicken who came near her nesting box, which changed every time she laid>one randomly got out and scratched the fuck out of the neighbor's kid, only reason I didn't get sued is because I offered them free chickens and eggs for a couple of months>watched a rooster cannibalize any chick that came near it
>>741667775one of the most encouraging things about the whole trade is that we're projected to hit "peak oil" or maximum possible oil extraction of planetary resources before 2035, after which oil extraction rapidly nosedives because there is literally no more oil to get. so there's a cap on the destruction and OPEC will not last forever, green energy taking an upwards swing in recent months-years is very good and the transition to clean fuel should hopefully be pretty seamless, even if the USA in particular is going to fight it kicking and screaming because our old-money is built almost entirely on oil (even the middle east is being a lot clearer headed about it than the USA, it's part of why saudi princes keep buying video game companies, they need SOMETHING to keep them afloat into the future while they've still got cash to splash)>>741667856abrahamic faiths in general are fucking weird about the "earth is man's domain" part with both god and demon meddling in what's supposed to be man's domain pretty regularly. don't think about it because the books and preachers don't
>>741667895aside from frozen ice-age species we have a fair amount of tissue preserved in amber, mostly invertebrate though
>>741668021>we got fully preserved wooly mammothsfucking WHAT, why is this the first time I'm hearing about this and the dino tail? I had to double check because I figured it was a fake at first but it's real
>>741667943recent history too
>>741667952"All that exists outside God was, in its whole substance, produced out of nothing by God."It depends on who you ask but the most commonly held modern belief is that the universe was created and guided up to the point of the evolution of man to include lizard birds. That doesn't make a very good ragebait post on instagram though.
>>741668125Yes but...why? God wanted to make man in his image and guide him and all that but first he decided to play sandbox with giant lizards for a really long time?
>>741668052the issue is that a lot of the oil producing companies are in bed with the vampires known as private equity and they will drain the economy dry in their dying throes mostly because the dinosaurs in charge figure that they'll probably last the next 20-30 years of their lives purely on the wealth they'll extract and after they're gone the world can burn for all they care and western culture worships these men because they're "successful"
>>741668001>also interesting is that the Catholic church has actively made an official statement on alien life, in that if it exists it was also created by GodYou know that seems sensible. I don't know why any Christian or adjacent would have a stance that earth is the only planet with life. Like it feels like something only a 1600's puritan or some 1950's small town nutjobs would say.
>>741668217It's funny
>>741668095very real
Feathercucks are at it again.
>>741668095They found like half of a homotherium cub but that animals more "recent" in Earth's timeline.
>>741668217The bullshit answer would be "God moves in mysterious ways" but in reality it's all up to interpretation. Maybe gotta play sandbox mode, maybe gotta make an actual functioning universe first and see how it goes. A good setting isn't fun if it doesn't have worldbuilding and lore. Far be it from man to question His will. >>741668265This is also a completely acceptable answer.
>>741668217>Yes but...why? God wanted to make man in his image and guide him and all that but first he decided to play sandbox with giant lizards for a really long time?You have to understand god is a jokester that why he both banished satan and allows him out periodically to test humanities resolve to allow us free will.
>>741668095not just wooly mammoths we have a pretty decent amount of preserved ice age species also if we find actual bone (not fossils which are minerals) we can extract DNA from itit's been incredibly useful for research into human evolution, the Denisovan species (effectively a sister species to Sapiens and Neanderthal) was described from just a single tooth and a bit of bone simply because those contained enough DNA to sequence it fully and realize it was a separate speciesit's also how we found out that interbreeding between various human species happened because we found ancient DNA and sequenced finding mixed heritage, even very recent heritage, we have the DNA of an individual who's grandparents were of a different species (Neanderthal and Denisovan in this case)
>>741667585
>atheist fags get btfo in the last thread>retreat to their retarded soience hugbox
>>741667845>140k in heavenwhat
>>741668052>one of the most encouraging things about the whole trade is that we're projected to hit "peak oil" or maximum possible oil extraction of planetary resources before 2035, after which oil extraction rapidly nosedives because there is literally no more oil to get.We were already supposed to hit peak oil a while ago, but then fracking came along and rewrote the rules.There's still a lot more damaging methods, untouched reservations and such that will get fed to the mantra of "Fuck You All, I'm Rich and Will Die Before This Blows Up".For better or worse, our society needs this shit. Not just for car fuel. Most cheap plastics, oils, standard rocket fuel,... a lot of things which we'd be fucked without. We're simply speedrunning its depletition blowing it in one of those uses that we don't necessarily have to use it for. Certainly not on the scale it's done today.
>>741660269I swear experts and scientists are amongst the biggest retards on the planet
>>741668378I like to imagine God isn't actually all powerful and the deal with him and Satan is basically like Batman and the Joker.
>>741668052oil already peaked, The Experts proved it
>>741668237well with the Catholic church at least, despite some propaganda, they've always been pretty pro-science, attempting to understand creation is seen as one of the ways in which man can get closer to God This combined with a lack of biblical literalism and the leaders of the Catholic church all being highly educated has seen the church (if slow) adapt discoveries and fit them into the existing theology same with the Orthodox, it's really only Protestants that are responsible for 90% of christian stupidity
>>741661824riiiiiiiiight, so why did they give a reptile a mammals' tail?
When did furfags start doing official art for JPLike all of the new dinosaur designs look the part
>>741668409I thought the existence of different distinct races was considered a pseudoscience these days
>>741668486It's a belief most common in Jehovah's Witnesses. In the book of Revelation, it states that 144,000 people shall return at Armageddon alongside the will of God, 12,000 from each tribe of Israel. Then a countless multitude will stand before the throne and these 144,000. That's why the Witnesses can't get cremated or have any surgeries or whatever. Their body has to stay whole and unchanged for the resurrection, in their belief anyway.
>>741668496>I swear experts and scientists are amongst the biggest retards on the planet>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T CHANGE YOUR MIND EVER NO MATTER WHAT NEW EVIDENCE AND ANALYSIS PRODUCE! YOU HAVE TO STICK TO ONE DOGMATIC IDEA AND NEVER EVER ALLOW YOURSELF TO INCORPORATE NEW INFORMATION THAT'S HERESY.Were talking about science in here fucker, if they produce evidence of dinosaur bankais then so be it, so long as the evidence actually supports it.
>>741668646>with God everything is explained>with science the best you can get is "uh...maybe, I guess, um, I think, well that's what the evidence says..."
>>741668606No they don't, you have no idea what furfag art looks like besides knowing you don't like it and thus associate if with something you dislike.
>>741668538Yet more evidence that the world peaked in the late 1900's and everything went to shit as soon as 9/11 happened
>>741668607distinct species anon, not raceshowever even those sister-species which had significant genetic difference were capable and willing of interbreeding and part of the modern theory is that rather than being eliminated, Sapiens just interbred with them but outnumbered them to such a degree they got kinda subsumed in our DNAWhich in turn leaves it's mark on certain populations, for example it's an likely theory that Denisovan DNA is what helps Tibetan and Nepali people tolerate extreme altitudes That said for modern Homo Sapiens there's absolutely no reason to assume it's not a single species, genetic variation simply isn't big enough between even the most distantly diverged races and constant migrations have mixed DNA pretty well
>>741660269ACK
>>741666667>also it had eagle+ tier vision, crazy sense of smell, and was one of the smartest dinosaurs we know of"$fucking woke scientist destroying my childhood by shitting on jurassic park
>>741668746>uh...maybe, I guess, um, I think, well that's what the evidence says...>actually there are flaws in this model>NOPE ACTUALLY THOSE ARENT FLAWS, THE EVIDENCE IS THERE BUT ITS JUST INVISIBLE AND YOU CANT DETECT IT OR MEASURE IT OR FALSIFY IT IN ANY WAY BUT ITS THERE OK???
>>741668746>>with God everything is explainedYeah see that's the problem nothing is explained, you can simplify your beliefs to "god did it" but that's just you offloading mental load and curiosity so you don't have to deal with the question. It isn't answering the question.
>>741668746>>with God everything is explainedwhat, almost nothing is explained and if you dare to ask they threaten you with eternal suffering
>>741667686haven't heard that one before but the fossilic origin theory of oil is a fairly new one and there's few hard facts supporting it beyond that it would make lots of sense if it occurred that wayit's an uncontested fact that hydrocarbons can form abiogenetically, the Cassini probe showed that Titan is choke full of liquid hydrocarbons i.e. oil: https://www.esa.int/Science_Exploration/Space_Science/Cassini-Huygens/Titan_s_surface_organics_surpass_oil_reserves_on_Earthit's just thought that in Earth's case most of the oil we extract is fossilic in origin
>>741668853but it does confirm the JP2 version of T. Rexthey cooperating in raising their offspring and as dedicated K-strategist apex predators with high intelligence they absolutely would go out of their way to actively remove threats to their offspring
>>741669107the reason earth's hydrocarbons have to be fossilic in nature is because earth still has active plate tectonics, and earth's biosphere is sufficiently advanced virtually all non-atmospheric carbon is either currently active part of the biosphere or fossil any hydrocarbons that would have existed as earth formed would have long since subdued into the mantle and released eventually as carbon dioxide not to mention that even if earth's original atmosphere contained hydrocarbons, earth's current atmosphere is actually the SECOND atmosphere earth has since the entire surface and atmosphere of earth got reset due do the collision with Theia there's an interesting theory that a planet the size of Earth would have originally retained a significant amount of hydrogen in it's atmosphere which would have messed up our atmospheric composition something fierce for habitability
>>741662473>not only dino tail but primordial bugsHoly shit this is awesome
>>741669393bugs being trapped in amber was pretty well known, hell it's so well known we have Roman reports about itThey also knew amber was hardened tree sap though they obviously didn't know how old it was
>>741669107Why aren't we trying to mine Titan then?
>>741668746The bible doesn't talk about dinos, retard.Shitheads like you are worst than atheists and give religion a bad reputation. At worst you could speculate about dinos being dragons or nephilim hybrid beasts but ultimately it is all speculation and beyond the purpose of the religion.
>>741669481>Why aren't we trying to mine Titan then?Mostly because space is the least hospitable place in existence and it costs and assload of money to get stuff into orbit. Mining of other celestial objects is not likely to happen in our lifetime unless they figure out fusion.
>>741669393>PrimordialAren't bugs much older than dinosaurs? I thought the first ones were back from when they were still fuckhuge and dinosaurs only took over much later? Or are those not even considered bugs, just crustaceans who wandered onto land or something?
>>741669481because it costs more fuel to get there than you can bring back for oneif we're going to mine something in space it makes a shitload more sense for that thing to be uranium, but we've not ran out of that yet
>>741668095Yeah we've had fully preserved mammoths for a while now. We even managed to sequence their DNA completely. So we got the full wooly mammoth genome. I think the same goes for several other ice age animals.
>>741668746Progression in science is the only reason you have a computer to shitpost on.
>>741669521>dinos being dragons or nephilim hybrid beastsI thought dinosaurs were a pagan conspiracy orchestrated by the Jews to kill God and destroy the white race.
>>741669574I could see a gold or platinum rich asteroid being moved into earth's orbit and mined within our lifetimeif we figure out fusion then obviously we're going to be mining the He3 from the moon (though "mining" is relative here)
>>741669656>I thought dinosaurs were a pagan conspiracy orchestrated by the Jews to kill God and destroy the white race.Nietzsche already killed god we ain't gotta keep killing him.
>>741669678>I could see a gold or platinum rich asteroid being moved into earth's orbit and mined within our lifetime>if we figure out fusion then obviously we're going to be mining the He3 from the moon (though "mining" is relative here)I would love to see this but I suspect asteroid mining is the great filter. "We'll just move this asteroid to our planet and mine it... oops.".
>>741669601insects were on land long before the first vertebrates yes I don't know exactly when the true bugs (Hemiptera) evolved but most insects you're thinking about when someone asks you to think about a bug aren't actual true bugs so that's fairly irrelevant
>>741668618>Their body has to stay whole and unchanged for the resurrection, in their belief anyway.When the religious belief loosely implies that the god they worship is not that all powerful thus being unable to restore your body.
>>741669813orbital dynamics between an asteroid and a planet are pretty easy to figure out all things considered an also pretty easy to adjust and carefully monitor not too much danger there honestly
>>741669882>orbital dynamics between an asteroid and a planet are pretty easy to figure out all things considered an also pretty easy to adjust and carefully monitor >not too much danger there honestlyHumanities arrogance and hubris have never gotten us in trouble before! I get what you're saying but they'd be safe on the like the first 2 and then they'd start cutting costs.
>>741660269feathered and furred dinosaurs are from a very loud LGBTQ activist group in the paleontology community, they've overtaken youtube discourse about itthe science isn't actually there for any of it, it's all speculative
>>741669882In order to get something right you gotta fuck up first. In this case a fuck up that huge is costing us a planet.
>>741669952monitoring the approach of an asteroid like that would be ridiculously simple and performed by multiple parties, the minute it even gets within 0.001% chance of collision there's going to be massive alarm bells going off everywhereand even if something goes wrong catastrophically, you still have months to rectify the situation and the asteroids will be naturally smaller than any actual biosphere killer and most importantly will be moving FAR slower
>>741668217Have you heard of the concept called Mystery? Capital M. Do you think your tiny brain could hope to understand how God moves shit around? Incidentally, he was called "the great mover" in medieval times, and The Simple Mind (because it couldn't be divided), go read the Discarded Image. Or so goes the most popular train of thought.
>>741670049there's plenty of things we did without fucking it up first, and in this case we already did all the fuckups, orbital dynamics between a planet and an asteroid are functionally no different than between a planet and a space probe, in both cases the mass of the object is irrelevant compared to the mass of the planet
>>741668496>Shit Piece referenceNot saving that shit
>>741668646you sound like an unhinged trans activist
>>741667775>same with any environmental regulation, "God wouldn't allow the environment to get poisoned so we don't need regulations because God will fix it" is a genuine argument they use"You see, it's PAGAN for that river not not catch on fire because you'd be le serving le creature and worshipping da creation", with added sides of "woke" and "Marxist".>>741667856>Happily ignoring the part where god explicitly said he created humanity and now we have to take care of it or the part where god was like "LOL, LMAO" get out of my garden and suffer.People see "dominion over the earth and the animals" and "be fruitful and multiply" automatically thinking that means "free reign to subjugate, plunder, pillage, and devastate ecosystems & entire species" when it was a fancy way of saying "take care of what I created".Unfortunately the alpha male macho mindset you see on Twitter poisoned society.
>>741670040what about >>741662473 ?
>>741665976Imagine talking positively about any kind of video game on /v/.We only """play""" them for sexual gratification as long the women are sex objects.
>>741669035not that anon, but you are offloading critical thinking skills when you allow speculative biologists and youtubers to completely rewrite coelurosauria as all being feathered imagine in 100 million years, an alien civilization found an echidna egg and then believed all human beings laid eggs, you are allowing bad actors to intentionally subvert science and paleontology with no actual evidence
>>741667967Feathers are likely ancestral to all dinosaurs. The reason for thinking this is that pterosaurs have the same type of feathers that we see in dinosaurs. And we know they're closely related to dinosaurs. It seems most likely that the shared ancestor of both groups was feathered, and therefore the first dinosaurs were probably feathered. Larger dinosaurs lost this feathering because it would kill them, or if ectothermic, it was just unnecessary and scales were better for defense and stuff.
>>741670395it's mostly just because it's what people want to hear, they want to believe that everything will be alright, that there's no problems in the future to worry about, people like to be lulled into sleepOpium for the masses might have been a crude way to put it, but there's some truth to it that religion allows people to feel comfortable when they should not bewell not quite religion per se but rather bad actors taking advantage of religion to push their agendas disguised as solace on the people Really the big issue is that large scale societies allow sociopaths to function at much higher density levels than they would in tribal societies
>>741670518see >>741670617outliers and mutations exist in every clade, you got completely rused by people that want to tell you 2+2=5
>>741669736Not according to the priest who touched me in church once.He also said that video games were the devil and that Pokemon cards are demons while showing me his sex toy collection and offered me to try out a dildo or else I'd go to Hell for the "witchcraft" of disobeying Godly authority.
>>741667967>distant cousinveliciraptor had feathers
>>741670680>bad actors taking advantage of religion to push their agendas disguised as solace on the peopleIran's "moral police" raping women as if the Quran doesn't have anything to say about self control.
>>741670617except of course the part where there's significant differences between human bone structured and echidna that would make it clear we're a live-bearing speciesalso them being wrong about something initially is not a problem for a scientific process either, that's how science works, new evidence appears and theories are adjusted based on it, and there simply has come out a lot of evidence for feathers in dinosaurs so theories are being adjusted to account for that
>>741670645>Feathers are likely ancestral to all dinosaurs.where is the evidence for this lmaoyou do realize that's like saying breathing water is ancestral to all humans, we have some evidence of that, but there are major missing links to that assumption
>>741670834>also them being wrong about something initially is not a problem for a scientific process eitherit is when you are an activist that is using paleontology to push subversion the scientific process does not exist for activism, only demanded peer adoption, this is the transgender affirming surgery debate all over againthere is nowhere enough evidence to support the subversion of coelurosauria
>>741670846>you do realize that's like saying breathing water is ancestral to all humansI mean it literally is, we're still lobe finned fish, we have genetic material that contains traces of it and we can check how the gills of lobe-finned fish evolved to form various modern day anatomic features through the bones in our ancestors
>>741668853But anon, in the second book it's pointed out how that was just flat out not the case, and a character who tried to stand still to avoid a t-rex gets eaten because of it...
>>741670690so you think the only preserved tail just happens to be a rare mutation?
>>741667372you never seen a horse eat chicks?they devour them whole opportunistic carnivores
>>741670987how is it activism to update theory of feathered dinosaurs based on significant evidence of feathers in theropods? like exactly what grand purpose could "pushing feathers" serve, in exactly what way does it help any political ideology or anything like that and how is it possible and why would anyone bother to set up a global conspiracy stretching across entire nations for the sole purpose of dinosaur feathers? like how does any of this make sense to you?
>>741670987>it is when you are an activist that is using paleontology to push subversion >>the scientific process does not exist for activism, only demanded peer adoption, this is the transgender affirming surgery debate all over again>there is nowhere enough evidence to support the subversion of coelurosauriaSubversion doesn't survive in a hard science for long anon this isn't something to worry about. Though to be clear when I mean for long that can be from anywhere of 5 to 15 years, which relative to how slowly real evidence is collected is quite fast. Also depends on the discipline and how difficult or expensive it is to reproduce results.I'd agree with you if it were sociology which is almost entirely fucking bullshit.
>>741670825most fun (relatively-) recent one was the whole "Do not commit the sin of empathy" line as if that wasn't the most heretical shit imaginable
>>741662175>>741663384the t-rex wasn't fully feathered. it had nude legs and i think a mostly nude tail too. the rest of it probably had some sparse quill-like feathers but it wasn't fluffy like a bird. it would have been too hot for it to live with a full coating like that.
>>741660269The very fact that billions of retards believe in dinosaurs is why I want everyone to enslaved and I hope jews win in mushing all into coagulated chunks of biomass.
>>741671010>I mean it literally is, we're still lobe finned fishthis is how I know you are a subversive>>741671123it's activism for you to have an agenda that intentionally subverts the scientific processthere was not enough evidence to support the entire coelurosauria being subverted in popular media, it's bad science to make these sort of large scale retroactive changes at best, and at worst it's intentionally malicious
>>741667459I'm friends with actual Christians and they say that evolution was part of God's plan and that he shaped the evolution of humans to be in his own image. The 7 days of creation, according to them, were not actual days but unknowably long eons because God lives in a different scale of time to us. Make of it what you will, I've got no horse in this race.
My friend found out about feathered dinosaurs and now he is gay. The two may not be related. He was always a little queer.
Birds are dinosaurs. Do you see any birds with reptile-like scaly skin? So why would these dinosaurs have it?
>>741671257no respectable paleontologist is even saying T. Rex had anything resembling large scale feather coverage, hell even what you're saying is going further than most would be willing to go because we actually have T. Rex skin imprints that make feathers unlikely it's mostly at this point people who keep denying that dromaeosaurids were feathered that are met with eyerolls
>>741671202>Subversion doesn't survive in a hard science for long anon this isn't something to worry abouti agree, but the issue is popular media, intentionally teaching the proletariat wrong with unsettled science has chaotic effects on society
>>741670846Pterosaurs are close relatives to dinosaurs and have feathers. Dinosaurs in both theropod and ornithischian lineages have feathers. Birds evolved in the middle of the era of dinosaurs, not at the end. Basically we'd need feathers to have developed independently 3 times, and to do so pretty early on, which just doesn't really make that much sense. More likely the first dinosaurs had a coating of feathers and there was only one origin ancestral to both pterosaurs and dinosaurs.
>>741671347>Well the text isn't literalI guess that works
>>741671405>we actually have T. Rex skin imprints that make feathers unlikelyonly of a few different parts like the tail and legs iirc. i was mostly referring to the image of it depicted like a big chicken.
>>741667895There's a well preserved psittacosaurus fossil that shows that it had scaly skin and long hairs on its tail (it's so well preserved that paleontologists found its cloaca)
>>741671284You would be a fan of this shitty show
>>741671339>this is how I know you are a subversiveno it's literally part of how evolution works, you can't evolve out of a category, every single terrestrial vertebrate on the planet is a lobe finned fish by ancestrydoesn't mean that they can breathe water, outside of amphibians that ability was lost so long ago that any DNA that could code for water breathing is so degenerated it can never result in a functional mutation again, but water breathing is an ancestral trade, if exceedingly distant
>>741662175>>741671257there is no evidence that supports the majority of coelurosauria having feathers, outliers exist in mammals that do not share traits with any other mammals, it's unreasonable to suggest other families do not have outliers, especially with a lack of documented data
>>741671485That big round T-Rex drawing holds a lot more water, suddenly
>>741671432isn't the current theory that pycnofibers are a result of convergent evolution between pterosaurs and dinosaurs?
>>741667459they say the flood did it but never bother explaining why everything is in order beyond God did it
>>741671347>LOOK AT MY HORSE
>>741667686Hydrocarbons come from two sources.From inside of earth and from outside of earth(like from Saturn)
>>741671432>Basically we'd need feathers to have developed independently 3 timeswhich happened with eggs around 10 times in Earth historyyou need to stop speaking on biology with this much conviction, this is a field for experts, not for fetishists
One SIMPLE theory disproves a hundred years of understanding of dinosaurs!
>>741671539active proof of feathers is found in pretty widely diverged coelurosauria as well as several direct ancestors of the clade there's just no reason to assume that somehow feathers evolved convergently like 20 different times
>>741668095Yes they've been trying to clone it for years now. Turns out it can't be done.
>>741667825https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOVvEbH2GC0
>>741671539>there is no evidence that supports the majority of coelurosauria having feathers, outliers exist in mammals that do not share traits with any other mammals, it's unreasonable to suggest other families do not have outliers, especially with a lack of documented dataOk but the Platypus still makes no sense.
>>741671706eggs only evolved once in vertebrates though
>>741671495describing a human being as a lobe finned fish is actually just an arbitrary point of evolutionary split offthis is why you are subversive, it's like arguing that all men are women, it's not a clever observation, and it seeks to subvert the proletariat
>>741660269KAWAIII
>>741671443They say the same thing about Adam & Eve as well as Noah's Arc, for what it's worth. Obviously Adam and Eve weren't the only humans around since they only had three boys (Cain, Abel, and Seth) and humans aren't all massively inbred.Noah's Ark is explained as being a local parable, that God didn't flood the ENTIRE Earth, but rather flooded the Middle East because of incalculable levels of degeneracy. Also, they generally take everything in the Old Testament with a grain of salt. The Jews are the ones who treat it like gospel.
>>741671723"pretty widely" is not a scientific classification, especially when you use speculative evidence like hollow bones and environment to support your claims, rather than hard genetic evidence
>>741667686It’s 20,000 years old, which is as far back as carbon dating goes. Anyone who claims modern Humans spent hundreds of thousands of years not developing even a basic written language is a redditor. Every single asteroid originally said to be dated millions of years was corrected to 20,000 or less over the past few decades and there is no evidence whatsoever of the Oort Cloud.
>>741671851what the fuck are you even going on about, this is literally the basic most tenet of evolution, you can't evolve out of a category, and there are several cases in which describing a human as a lobe finned fish is in fact relevant, namely when it comes to describing anatomic features that are consistent between all lobe finned fish but absent in other cladesthings such as wrist structure are features that date all the way back here
>>741671925>Obviously Adam and Eve weren't the only humans around since they only had three boys (Cain, Abel, and Seth) and humans aren't all massively inbredhow do you know? according to the bible we went from living for thousands of years to 100 max. maybe because of the early inbreeding.
>>741671946the only genetic evidence we have of feathers is through molecular clock study because there's no surviving mesozoic DNA and molecular clock analysis has the first evolution of feathers to be pretty early in dinosaur evolution
>>741671570Based off of the fossil, this is what we think Psittacosauruses looked like (including their skin pigmentation since that actually survived). SOME dinosaurs had feathers. Birds are dinosaurs after all. Non-Avian dinosaurs would be less likely to have had feathers and more likely to have proto-feathers/hairs.
>>741668814>>741668607Species is just a category and doesn't follow coherent rulings. They use a barrier system that includes like 8 variables.A simple mutation in an otherwise extremely close grouping of sub species that prevents sperm from fertilizing eggs can make two tanimals a separate species. Two groups of closely related plants with incompatible flower shapes that incentivize different pollinators, but can otherwise hybridize with human intervention counts as two separate species.Even Camels and Lamas, which were separated by vast oceans were once considered separate species until they started calling them subspecies because liberal scientists started realizing arguing natural geological distance causing sub species to genetically drift apart could be used to define races of human as separate species.
>>741671741>performative made for money youtube videoNot watching, fuck people like this and fuck what they did to the internet
>>741671443>>741671925It’s literally written in the first like 10 pages of the Bible that Cain went to the Land of Nod and had children with a woman who lived there.
>>741672002>>741672078as of yet, we might get there, the reason why i am pushing you on this is that you are pushing settled science when it isn'tthese are new, partially contradictory ideas, and when you introduce them to the general public as if it was always like this, it comes across as intentionally subversivethis is why science lists things as theories when it cannot be reasonably proven beyond a shadow of a doubtfeathered coelurosauria theory is a decent theory, but it is still a theory, it requires harder evidence for wide spread adoption, and pushing it as settled when it isn't, is not good science, it is dogmatic agenda
>>741671765Platypuses, as well as the extant echidna species making up the last living members of the Monotreme Order, are actually the oldest mammal species. Placentals and Marsupials branched off of Monotremata in the late Jurassic/early Cretaceous while Monotremes would've walked alongside the Stegosaurus. They're not really outliers so much as they're the missing link between true mammals and our reptilian (Dimetrodon) ancestors.
>>741671713
>>741672084>Birds are dinosaurs after allthat is incorrect, that's like saying we are a fish
>>741672346spreading non-feathered coelurosauria is just as much agenda pushing as the opposite anonin your case it's because you dogmatically hold fast to what you learned as a child and are unwilling to adjust your worldview, taking what you learned when you were young as a fact that has existed for eons
>>741672354Sadly their entire fossil record is really boring and consists mostly of duck beavers, Echidna is as interesting as they've managed to get in their long existence on earth.
>>741672404We are.
>>741672397crocodilians lay eggs, so obviously they should have feathers, how else would they attract a mate??
>>741672404That's wrong, the actual equivalent would probably be to claim that we are lemurs.
>>741672404Humans, ostriches, snakes, ceratopsians, and elephants are all fish, yes.
>>741672354I will not stand for the multituberculate slander, they were the most common mesozoic mammal and they should be remembered as such dammit for the mesozoic both placentals and marsupials were small sister-clades to the main mammalian clade
>>741662048"Feathers"
>>741672495jesus christ I thought this was some poorly made straw doll with no face and when it started moving I got scared
>>741672409that's not an argument, i am holding you to account that you are pushing subversion of established science because you have an agendamy agenda is not to conserve old science, but to maintain scientific theorem, which you have thoroughly thrown away in your attempt to be an subversive activist you might trick a christcuck, but casuistry will not work on the properly educated
>>741660269That looks like something from Impossible Creatures
>>741672673Take that back
>>741672757See just makes me think he lost the wizard battle with Mme Mim.
>>741672614see>>741671485
>>741662364No, because you have to go back to the Permian or at most the early Triassic to get impressive prehistoric mammal relatives that lived alongside large archosaurs. Otherwise mammals were reduced to tiny rats between the Mid-Triassic and the Paleogene.
>>741672839>Outcompetes your favorite Triassic dinosaur>Survives the Great Dying>Refuses to explain>Evolves out of existence
DINOBIRD DENIERS DON'T LOOK
>>741672929Very mysterious lads.
>>741668052It's too late for civilization as we know it mate, global infrastructure is not making the century or your lifetime, play your backlog while you can
>>741672678and what agenda is itmake it clear now what exact agenda is being pushed
>>741660269Have they nerfed Spino even more?
>>741672978They survived the worst ever mass extinction event in Earth's history and are the most common fossil for a 10 million year stretch of time and yet we don't know where they went. The Earth was once 50% Lystrosaurus and they just don't exist anymore.I want one as a pet.
>>741672673Who the fuck is scared of a bearded dragon? They're popular pets specifically because they look cool but they're relatively easy to take care of and have an agreeable temperament.
>>741672959jesus christ what the fuck
>>741672929They are making a comeback
>>741660269https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKtW9xSgUOY
>>741672929>Lystrosaurus is notable for dominating southern Pangaea for millions of years during the Early Triassic.>At least one unidentified species of this genus survived the end-Permian mass extinction and, in the absence of predators and herbivorous competitors, went on to thrive and re-radiate into a number of species within the genus, becoming the most common group of terrestrial vertebrates during the Early Triassic; for a while, 95% of land vertebrates in the Lystrosaurus Assemblage Zone in South Africa were Lystrosaurus.>This is the only time that a single species or genus of land animal dominated the Earth to such a degree.What the FUCK was his problem?
>>741671982>Anyone who claims modern Humans spent hundreds of thousands of years not developing even a basic written language is a redditor."Marks of progress" are a slippery slope, the written word would develop at/around the time of being able to farm more resources than a community was actually capable of going through. Similarly to how many civilizations didn't develop a wheel because they had no need of hauling things or transporting things, civilizations won't develop a writing system if they have no need to keep track of large volumes of things, or otherwise tabulate numbers and keep inventory. Oral history and legends are perfectly fine for most community information transfer, even accounting for "data corruption" in the form of the game of telephone that is oral communication.
>>741667845>That creation range is weirdo secular shitNo it's American Protestant stuff specifically. BTW those guys are the fastest growing Christian denomination and are actively and aggressively converting people in Latin America, Africa, and China, so that infection is spreading.
>>741673340It's not like we don't have 40,000 years worth of cave paintings that managed to survive either. These motherfuckers got pretty good at art too. I wonder how many of their descendants still walk among us today.
>>741673496Pope's already fired a warning shot against sedevacantists recently since they're trying to name bishops without church approval, I think the funniest thing he could do is declare Protestants to be so far removed from Christianity as to be unrecognizable as such.
>>741673312S M A S H E DL AMMED
>>741673720orrorin is my favorite
>>741673498fun fact about cave paintings is that they're even more complex than we first realized because we watched them in continuous lightif instead you watch them with dancing light like from a torch or a campfire the extra limbs due to the shifting shadows instead of looking like extra limbs look like they're moving
>>741673720>Chordates>From FlatwormsPretty damn near sure this is incorrect.
>>741673157ostrich wings are defensive features, there's a reason they kept those
>>741671982>>741673340>. Every single asteroid originally said to be dated millions of years was corrected to 20,000 or lessVelikovsky wins again
>>741673934Our ancestors had less technology, not less intelligence. I think people would do good to remember that we didn't suddenly evolve to be intelligent in the past 150 years.
>>741673720what a fucking cunt
>>741673720Part of me really wishes we had kept tails and snouts.
>>741660269You should watch a raccoon invade a birds nest and just bite off the heads of chicks. Same goes for catching baby squirrels. Absolutely fucking vicious creatures for anything smaller then it.
>>741669574The ancestors of arthropods and vertebrates are about as old as each other even if the former got to land first. Though there is an interesting recent theory that argues that chordates in general are more closely related to arthropods than the former is to echinoderms, which has been the consensus for a long time.
>>741674259Meant for >>741669601
>>741674135
>>741668560Stripped patterns aren't unique to just mammals. If you truly want to get autistic about this, then you can ask why the trex in Jurassic Park has a loud roar that only a mammal could produce.
>>741674102yeeup and cave paintings weren't just pretty things they madethey were tools for storytelling, they were meant to be deliberately watched under specific circumstances
>>741674381T. Rex should have a rumbling noise that goes full into infrasound which would be far worse than a mammalian roaryou'd genuinely get sick to your stomach from hearing one
>>741671010Humans literally have gill slits early in development, they just turn into parts of your ears and jaw and ribs.
>>741666984It only takes one freak super disaster to ruin humanity like it did dinosaurs.
>>741670040I think the whole group that argues "They're trying to make dinosaurs feathered because they're gay faggots trying to ruin the based macho tradcon dinosaurs who would've totally shared all my opinions if they were real (but they weren't because Jesus said so)!" is my favorite group of schizos.
>>741674518not really, humans are ridiculously extinction proof for apex predatorswe could survive just about anything other than a gamma ray burst
>>741671219If you thought that was heretical then I'll raise you blasphemy.
you know, I doubt I need to actually read this thread to know about 90 percent of how it went down.>>741667203you know, I feel like a lot of the publics perception of chickens comes from just not interacting with them at all. Most people also think they are a lot dumber than they really are.
What are some good books on dinosaurs and other really old animals
>>741674582didn't he also have a priest bless a golden statue of himselfI mean he's more a pig than a calf but still
>>741660269isn't that the point of the game? It's called Evolution? so instead of Frog DNA and shit, the scientists who work for Jurassic park start mixed other DNA strands into the dinosaurs?
>>741673970It is, it was based on some animals being assumed to be flatworms while also being close to chordates, until it was discovered those animals had secondarily lost their coelom (fluid filled body cavity) and weren't gentically close to flatworms at all.
>>741674669Yeah there was a big thing of a bunch of people gathering to worship a golden Trump statue and breathlessly arguing the whole time that it wasn't idolatry (if not outright heresy) because it just isn't okay
>>741670752The thing with the quill knobs is like, what is the function? Evolution never creates something for just one reason, let alone no reason. Nobody has yet gone out on a limb and said that these dromaeosaurs flew - but then why would a non-flying animal need such powerful pennaceous flight feathers?
>>741674789one of the leading theories is partial gliding when jumping from heights and using their arm feathers to stabilize themselves while clinging onto prey
>>741667775>"God wouldn't allow the environment to get poisoned so we don't need regulations because God will fix it" is a genuine argument they useit's the same shit indians do with the Ganges. Jesus fuck that's awful.
>>741673720>>741673970And I'm right, what retarded publication made this image? Platyhelminthes (Flat Worms) are Protistomes meaning in their most basal embryonic cellular development the first opening to form is what becomes the mouth.The Deuterostome in the image is an acorn worm and that group is an entirely different lineage form Protostomes. Their last common ancestor would have been some multicellular animal without a centralized mouth or anus, that's how different they are from each other.All Chordates (Vertebrates and shit), Hemichordates (acorn worms) and Echinoderms (Starfish and shit) are Deuterostomes. All Mollusks, Flatworms, Athropods and other invertebrates in general(except jellyfish which pre-date both) are Protistomes. We literally separated so far back it's no fucking wonder vertebrates and Arthropods are so insanely different.>>741674259Also no this is completely wrong. Chordates and Echnioderms sharded a common ancestor which was a weird wormy thing probably like an acorn worm, that developed some sort of ancient internal structuring part of its anatomy.In Echnioderms this evolved into their calcium plate skeleton while chordates would create a simple stiffening rod that would also form a calcium structure (bone) around it.Arthropods evolved from different worm like organisms, probably the simplest being nematodes, into shit like flatworms and then from there lobopod worms. Insects are basically closer to squids than humans.
>>741668496>anon at a murder case>defense finds new evidence that cops planted the gun>WHAT NO YOU CAN'T CHANGE YOU MIND, HES GUILTY GUILTY!
>when you decide that having a spine and a brain sucks so you just attach to a rock and do your best sponge impersonation insteadthe fact these are closer to use than octopuses is just plain weird
>>741668746"God did it" is not actually an explanation
>>741675081I like the horizontal gene transfer theory where these are what happened when a chordate somehow managed to mix with an echinoderm.
>>741669952we've been orbiting stuff since the 70's its pretty well understood and can be even calculated by people on paper.there's 16k+ satellites in orbit right now perfectly placed and in sync.putting an asteroid in orbit is not impossible or unpredictable.
>>741674948wait until you mix it with prosperity gospel where americans are genuinely praying for the sole purpose of getting rich and giving donations not as charity but as an investment that the pastor promises will pay itself backnaturally they also don't believe in any environmental issues because god promised them prosperity and they prayed for it so they will get it
>>741675081Wait until you find out about barnacles.
>>741675248the biggest issue with an asteroid would be their complex multi-axis rotationsbut those can be carefully stabilized before an attempt to move them is even made
>>741670690outliers don't tend to be the ones getting preserved by the simple nature of statistics
>>741675308just wait until you find out about the time barnacles went and decided to one-up even the god damn cordyceps in horror
>>741675383
>>741660269Tanuki >>>> Raccoon
>>741675468fun fact, barnacle larva can and have infested human flesh and extended their flesh roots all he way through an open wound to anchor onto the bone in a process that is both exceedingly painful and exceedingly difficult to remove without harming the underlying tissue and bone
>>741674582I genuinely think there will be an American Catholic schism in our lifetime
>>741674789>Evolution never creates something for just one reason, let alone no reasonevolution is just the result of successful breeding, if something has no effect on breeding it can continue to exist.like wisdom teeth in humans, some people have them and other dont and they have no effect on breeding so the mutation is just neutral and there or not.you cant really look to evolution much to why something exists unless the use for it is really clear, that's why it's a bit of a joke in biology to be like "this was probably for breeding displays/dances" because they're tying to explain what could be just random.
>>741675519that's not a fun fact at all
>>741675549american catholics choosing trump over the first american pope would be peak USA honestly
>>741675549The current pope's been saber rattling about it a bit, if Repub voters keep behaving like the Antichrist then it might get to the point the average American Christian isn't recognized as Christian by the church.
>>741675598hey at least these days they put you under anesthesia for merciful oblivion back in the days of wooden ships however the ships surgeon/carpenter would have 4 sailors hold you down, give you hard rum and then start digging it out while you bit on the wood between your jaws
>>741667967So, when does a reptile become an avian?
>>741675615If it's good enough for Big 'enry, it's good enough for us.
>>741671257>nude legs and i think a mostly nude tailLewd.
>>741660269Life.... finds a way.
>>741668001>also interesting is that the Catholic church has actively made an official statement on alien life, in that if it exists it was also created by God and any intelligent aliens either have or will be visited by their version of JesusThe "non-human sentient" argument actually goes all the way back to the 4th century when the possibility of Cynocephalians and other animal people being reported by explorers. The end conclusion was that since freaks who wildly diverge from the standard human body plan already exist in real life, to be made in the image of God must mean something more than simply having ten fingers and ten toes.
>>741675731avians never stopped being dinosaurs
i think t-rex would be cooler if he had a big red mohawk
>>741675308If you dissect one you can still tell it's shrimp that basically face plants itself into shit, then uses its legs to sweep shit into its mouth.Tunicate adult anatomy baffles scientists.
>>741675923honestly, study of christian theology and the councils that formed it is absolutely fascinating even as a non-religious personit's rare that you can follow religious tenets being formed in such recorded detail down to the actual arguments being used and just how significant the decisions made were for the cultural evolution of not just the west but eventually the entire world
>>741675519>The Flying dutch crew was real
>>741676001see>>741675383all the red is pure barnacle flesh, including the big sac which contains all it's organs only the larva are still recognizable as arthropodsor good ol' dendrogaster because yes this is also a crustacean, barnacles decided to become horrorshows not just once but twice
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>>741676147Best argument is that everything that will forever remain impossible to explain (big bang, conciousness, afterlife) is where God resides. He created the universe and our souls and lets nature to run its course, free will at its maximum expression.Where does this argument come from? I made it, my own dogma that reconciles science and God and has no logical flaws or plot holes
>>741676468that's just God of the gaps
>>741676169look up videos of people removing barnacles from sea turtle shells note, never do it yourself, the turtles are heavily sedated because turtle shells contain dense nerves and can feel pain and due to how deep the barnacles dig themselves into the shell the removal process without sedation is so excruciating the turtle will likely die from sheer shock however they will also die by being slowed down by barnacles enough they can't swim
>>741676339That's a thing with parasites is they have a lot of freedom for their body plan to just completely collapse and become a tumor. A lot of copepods also transform into weird shit when they become parasites.
>>741676468I prefer the Platonic and Kabbalistic interpretation that God is an inherently perfect being who one should seek out simply because by definition, the closer one is to said perfection, the better they are on a spiritual level. Like a sentient nirvana, nix the part where your sense of self is erased.
>>741676595all I can say is I'm really glad humans have a seriously powerful immune system as well as hands and social structure so we're pretty darn robust against parasites if the price to pay for fewer parasites is that allergies are dis-proportionally a thing among humans compared to most animals, that's a price worth paying
>>741667895Some species have managed to preserve their dignity
>>741676595>these were shrimp once
>>741676931They're animals, they don't have the human concept of dignity.
>>741675549Even the biggest dem-hating Catholics in the US have largely jumped ship off the Trump train, if not from >>741674582, from the churches getting bulldozed in Lebanon off US taxpayer money.
>>741677003Did Lovecraft get inspiration from reading too much about barnacles?
>>741674949>Also no this is completely wrong.My post is about a recent debate. The most commonly accept theory (which you went into slightly here) is Deuterostomia. What I'm referring to is the Centroneuralia hypothesis, which has come about recently do to questions related to the monophyly of Deuterostomia and the fact that Protostomia is not actually made up entirely of Protostomes.
>>741677153JD Vance literally just published a book about how Catholicism isn't cool with him being a cockhole.
>>741669107You simply assume that Titan's hydrocarbons are not fossilic or biological in nature because you assume there is no life thereConsider all the actual facts about Titan and that the conclusion that it is unsuited to life is a pushed conclusion instead of a natural one. Also consider that NASA diverted a satellite from dropping to the surface of Titan at the last minute and steered it into Saturn instead because of fears of "contamination"
>>741667686The hydrocarbons in most of the so-called """fossil""" fuels are abiotic in origin. Volcanic vents spew them out constantly.
>>741677006This cat isn't overweight because cats have no concept of obesity.
>>741673720>I evolved to kill Chaos
>>741677313Vance has a spine of a worm, I never really bought into him being a catholic
>>741667686>abrahamic religions believe the earth is only around 2500-3000 years oldonly a crazy retarded breakaway sect of USA evangelicals thought that. and maybe some muslims idk what they believe.
>>741676001Except Larvaceans, which are basically a tadpole that makes itself a giant mucus sack to trap food in. Those guys are pretty sensible.
>>741674135What's a nigga to do if there is an open niche? Not exploit it?
>Why yes I disagree with modern paleontological findings because it makes the toys and movies I liked as a kid scientifically inaccurate
>>741660269I think thats fuckin cute and I want more of it
>>741677753The anti feathers/paleontology thing is so very much an american thing.
>>741673720
>>741677574>Evolves into male made to fuck every waifu to ever exist
>>741677753>paleontological findingsyou mean fan-fiction?>yeah bro trust me, i definitely know how dinosaurs looked in detail 500 million years ago based on what we have now.it's all made up retarded nonsense
>>741678003but how is it any more made up than any other visualization? Why is it that the NEW ones upset you?
>>741662048Is he ok?
>>741678064let me reiterate:It'sALLmade upnonsense
>>741677638Unfortunately that sect is the largest in the US and the fastest growing world-wide.
>>741660269>denuvoslop
>>741678112the you're not of the stance I was making fun of, you're a different brand of autist
>>741674135I'm really mad that Australia has the closest thing and it's so goddman cute but they're super protective of them and hard to see in any aquariums He's got little flippers!
>>741663384>scarvangers>docileplease
>>741670752>barely visible bumps that happen to make a "pattern" on an already eroded bone>looks nothing like the bird bone>is literally the only "evidence" of Velociraptors having feathers>meanwhile every pRedditor took this to mean Deinonychus, Utahraptor and every other raptor had feathers despite there being no evidence at all
>>741669464Sure, but these bugs are potentially from 90 million years ago. I can't stop staring at this
>>741669481It takes something like 7 years to get to saturn with an ideal transfer window
>>741678758the oldest known insect preserved in amber is 130 million years oldthe oldest known arthropod preserved in amber is 230 million years old more than twice as old as those bugs
>>741668606It's not furfags. It's women.Possibly troons.
>>741678758Amber is pretty coolHell ants in particular are awesome
>>741677659They're like neotonic insects such as the Trilobite Beetle, where evolutionary pressure turns off the adult stage because the larval form has different anatomical advantages to reach sexual maturity in.From there they basically do have the option of evolving like a normal fucking chordate.
>>741675731That is the same question as asking whether the chicken came first, or the egg.
>>741678975Found better pic, they were also social so imagine having a ant farm of these in game or IRL
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>>741679026speaking of neotonic I always wondered if it would be possible for a fully aquatic neotonic frog tadpole to evolve
>>741668496>experts and scientistsNone of this shit is coming from experts or scientists.
>>741661993I hate this shit so much.When The Lost World and III came out they gave you new dinosaurs that actually looked like they belonged to the same world. They even tried to do this in all the games, like Operation Genesis and the Telltale game.Then World came out and all of a sudden they hired designers with Down syndrome.
>>741678628yeah yeah and archaeopteryx is fake
>>741677404They are mostly Saturn hydrocarbons expelled during Saturn micronovas
Any RPG that features dinosaur companions?
>>741679442everyone involved in World had Down syndrome
>>741679026Humans are essentially a neotenic form of gods
>>741679250FUCK YOU
>>741679447Didn't say that, but go ahead and seethe on the sideline because you can't refute any sort of skepticism.
>>741679614I drew him because I thought he was cute too!
>>741678873>>741678758Insects are ascended crustaceans. It doesn't make sense when you look at them until you look at the true "wingless" insects like silver fish and most importantly Bristle-tails(pic related), which look very anatomically similar to shrimp.The leap in question is how you go from Silverfish to winged insects. Dragonflies and other similar ancient insects with aquatic nymphs pretty much already had life stage metamorphosis, but it makes sense because the difference between a Dragon Fly Nymph and an adult is roughly the same as larval lobster is to an adult.But then suddenly roaches takes over and they completely lose morphological distinct nymphs while clearly carrying wings over from their water restricted cousins. The question is wings just coming out of fucking nowhere.Then to make things worse that Holometabola exists, which is every insect with a maggot/grub larval form(well except lace wings which have pincer monsters) that looks nothing like the adult. That shit is a massive mystery no one can figure out.
>>741678391I want to pet it.
>>741679550>you will never know what it's like to slide your cock into a hot dinosaur person's cloacaFuck this gay earth
It didn't even occur to me until I read about it recently that the embryo is basically a reproduction of the aquatic environment our ancestors used to reproduce and develop in.
>>741671575That is the older theory before more recent studies homologized the structures as we keep finding earlier and early examples of feathered dinosaurs.
>>741678873>>741678975>>741679772take any two taxons and it will give you how long ago they diverged https://timetree.org/
>>741679772>Insects are ascended crustaceansI don't know about ascended, they lost that big dense muscle tissue that makes crustaceans edible. You break open an insect and you just find gross green-brown goo.
Some types of dinosaurs were hairy, everyone knows that, OK, I'm OK with that.But, oh, but why do artists refuse to create good designs for feathered dinosaurs?
>>741660269The fossils of Sinosauropteryx not only preserve the feathers but also preserved the colors. Its depiction in the game is 1:1 how it looked in life, colors and patterns included. Microraptor is another dinosaur we have the colors of.
>>741679772Insects come from another planet and from space
>>741673720>Evolving into the FutureThe trends are clear. Manking in the future will be brown, dumb and aggressive.
>>741679772The Engineers came back a few times with new batches of black goo to get the biosphere across certain hurdles
>>741679250Very cute>I know you're having a rough time seeing the Devonian mass extinction>But it's about to get much worse>>741679892Apparently you can, but they can also have really nasty bites https://files.catbox.moe/tkmy60.mp4I didn't feel like resizing it
>>741680113Because most of them are faggot zoomers that seethe at the idea of making cool designs that the chuds might like.
>>741676781>I'm really glad humans have a seriously powerful immune system as well as hands and social structure so we're pretty darn robust against parasitesAhahah, you think so?
>>741674582How the FUCK did he get away with this?
>>741674789Evolution is not a mind guiding how life changes, it's a series of accidents, mutations, and chance that can let something survive long enough to reproduce and pass on traits. If a trait(s) happen to help an organism survive they get passed on and spread until the entire species has it. Traits that don't hinder or help get passed on as well.
>>741680204oh my god >BLABLABLABLA
>>741670040Cucking yourself to Black and white political thinking as an axiom to view the world, including small unrelated topics, is the saddest shit imaginable. You might as well just commit suicide.
>>741680356KEK
>>741680204Your issue is that you assume dinosaurs are cartoon characters and not real animals, and are thus 'designed' for 'markets' rather than being researched and understood.
>>741667967Science "says" that several families of dinosaurs had feathers, and not all members of those families had them.
>>741662549>>741662967Megalodon is in Evo 2 and 3, and is the youngest species in the game (ignoring the hybrids, of course).
>>741680385Dinosaurs aren't real animals. I can't look outside and see one so they aren't real. What you believe dinosaurs to be, these "animals," are nothing more than the amalgamation of guesstimations made by the perceptions and biases of modern liberal scientists. They are already marketed to fart-sniffing faggots like you.
>>741680309>To add a demon>It just looks like a confused image amalgamation of traits from the statue of liberty and paratrooper imagery blending together the arm placement.This was pointless hysterics, The image was probably stolen from the same generation set.
>>741680538Yes anon, they gave dinosaurs feathers because, uh, they vote democrat, and feathers are gay because bald eagles are gay, and it helps the scientists, um... make it seem like dinosaurs wouldn't vote republican? Am I getting it right?
>>741680204I prefer feathered dinos in some cases If the science supports it, like Jurassic Park velociraptor look like wired martians to me but like>Asexual dinosaur That's just death to a dino, animals rip each other apart in competition to breed, if an animal refused to breed in the wild the first assumption would be that it has a horrible brain parasite or it got its ass kicked and cucked out of passing on its genes
So if we could clone dinosaurs would they be as dangerous as the ones in the movies? I'd imagine so if you combine the viciousness of modern birds with the sizes some theropods got to. The big ones would probably stomp you just for the sheer meanspirited hell of it even if they had no desire to eat you.
>>741680591Mindbroken.
>>741672092>arguing natural geological distance causing sub species to genetically drift apart could be used to define races of human as separate species.But just because that could happen, doesn't mean humans stayed apart long enough for it to happen to us.Besides, they still defend the Neanderthals and Denisovans being different species, even though they could interbreed and produce fertile offsprings.
>>741680658Hey I'm not the guy arguing feathers are a Democrat conspiracy.
>>741680572They literally took the demon (that's suppose to represent Baal) from an AI generated book cover.
>>741680538Then what was eating my leftover fries that i threw in the yard and making cawing sounds today?
>>741680309>>741680741>>741680572real image
>>741680760..that was me..
>>741661384o my soience
>>741680719Yes you are, you're the only one saying that. I just said why it is paleofags don't bother making good feathered designs.
>>741680309This is clearly The Radiance
>>741680784
Dinosaur Hunting, the 2003 Japan-only game featured feathered dinosaurs, which looked much cooler than the current ones.
>>741680814Define "good feathered design".
>>741680784Im glad you enjoyed them
>>741680814>you're the only one saying that>>741680538>modern liberal scientists
>>741680847Of course they're better, they're stylized and exaggerated and super-colorful and are still mindless murder machines that exist solely to destroy every other animal around them. Scienctists utterly pussified dinosaurs by making them look and act like real animals.
>>741668026My mother is right, chickens have no soul
>>741680860Make one first.>>741680879And? Is modern paleontology not filled with liberals?
>>741661384We got many, many things wrong throughout our existence. Remember when we thought lightning and thunder were gods upset at something, that the Earth was a flat disk carried by four elephants riding a giant turtle, and volcanoes were caused by demons living inside the planet?
>>741680942You attribute the motivation for feathers to them being liberal, which necessitates a motivation behind the feathers that plays into their politics. Hence the scenario mocking you.
>>741680676They do that because they're dead. The differences between humans an neanderthals are slightly more than the difference between Australian aborigines and other humans, but no one would dare argue they're a sub-species because the liberal view is that it would innately create a justification for eugenics and different treatment.>Stay apart long enough for that to happen to usMy point is that animals forming two separate breeding groups to the point of prominent adaptation to separate environments, but capable of interbreeding with no complications, with the primary divider being geolocation is utilized as a grounds for defining separate species.Humans are left out of this solely for political reasons and the modern world allowing international migration.Except when such events happen like domestic dogs interbreeding with dingos, people bitch about ecological threats.It's arbitrary, fake and gay.
>>741681017Nope, I just said your perception of them being "real animals" is marketed to you by liberal scientists.
>>741681049Anon, telling me 'nuh uh I meant that I'm an Evangelical' isn't making you look less retarded.
>>741681049Do you deny that all the other prehistoric animals like the mammoth, Megalodon, plesiosaurs, terror birds, Smilodon, etc are also liberal tricks to destroy civilization and white culture? Or is your ire directed only and specifically at dinosaurs?
>>741681142Anon, telling me you're straight isn't making you look less gay.
>>741680609I can't help but imagine they'd be far more dangerous, like one komodo dragon doing that crazy run at you is pretty fucking scary, now imagine a herd of Honda Odyssey sized komodo dragons
>>741680741That looks like someone took a crop of the AI slop and re-ran it through a demonic prompt.This entire meme so so tryhard and zoomerish, like people who actually fuck with AI slop aren't aware how bad these generators can get when it comes to cobbling together prompts.The more an objects generated in the background of an AI sloppa away from its centerpiece focus, the more they become hybridized visual noise implementing random parts of the prompt. This example shows how "Chickens in a jungle with colorful tropical birds" breaks down. You got some Chickens, you got some tropical birds, but the further you get away from the focus the line between them dies.This is the fatal flaw of AI slop.
>>741681189This doesn't even work as a comeback senpai.
>>741680923>mindless murder machines that exist solely to destroy every other animal around themdidn't know that american zogbots existed back then
>>741681272You think this tranny is here to be serious? Stop replying to him.
>>741681243Chicken corruption sounds scary.
>>741681238Forget komodo dragons imagine a mega theropod with the temperament of a cassowary
>>741681181>liberal tricks to destroy civilization and white cultureI do deny that because I didn't say that. It's super funny how preoccupied you niggers are about this and can't stop telling on yourselves. I can tell I hit a nerve just because I said liberal.>>741681272>>741681318Uh oh, the buttbuddies are sucking each other off in the peanut gallery because they've run out of shit to say! Many such cases.
My favorite dinosaur in Dominion.
>>741681243>Chicken corruption
>>741681349>if i say random nonsense i win i win i win!
>>741681364What in the hell is that? Gigantoraptor?
>>741681412I say this and do this.
>>741681431Therizinosaurus.
>>741681536Therizinowari da
>>741681536I love how the giganotosaurus looks in that, even if he's just really a modern gorosaurus design
>>741662191Fossils arent bones skin and feathers. Look it up kid.
>>741681686I'm on the fence. On the one hand it's great that we got more obscure dinosaurs in front of mainstream audiences to beef up their profiles and popularity. On the other hand the movie perpetuates the "hurr Giga biggest dino so much stronger and better than Rex" nonsense and it looks like an Acrocanthosaurus fucked a Deinosuchus.
>>741678003retard.
>>741681594>>741681536>most british dino
>>741681845Its teeth are rotten and it eats haggis?
>>741681792I don't like that Jurassic park portrayed compies as like, "they'll strip all the flesh clean off a cow in 20 seconds flat" but never cashed it in with a bunch of compies totally fucking up a Trex or some shit
>>741681902this too, it also stab
Hello, fine gentlemen, how are you all doing this evening?
>>741667203I own and have owned chickens for over a decade now. Obviously like most animals you can raise them to be affectionate and docile to a degree, but results vary between breeds and chickens are still extremely ferocious omnivores when given the chance. >saw a chicken nab a field mouse and proceed to throw it around, mouse escaped but lost a lot of blood>saw my chickens attack a peahen (female peacock) when it encroached in their grazing field, it flew away in a panic>chickens would attack squirrels that got too close on multiple occasions>chicken grabbed a lizard and repeatedly slammed it on the floor, gave up trying to eat it and the lizard escaped with a missing tailFerocious little creatures, they are. But pretty cute pets when they're behaved and used to human handling.
>>741682260
>>741682260I like the video of the cat being cautious and leery with a mouse then a chicken just runs up, grabs the mouse, and runs off with it to eat it.
>>741671639it's amazing!I'll give it lick
>>741682569heh
>>741682721>>741682774Jesus Christ.
>>741682045does he teleport, change size, and move completely silently in the game too
>>741679713Gee, Jupiter! How come Sun mom lets you have 79 moons?
>>741682820
>>741682838Sadly, no, but Frontier made him absolutely adorable in many of his animations.
>>741663384don't say this to me
>>741682820>hunter specialized for airborne >attacks a bird that lives its life on the ground>gets near ground>fucking dies A tale as old as time. Never underestimate the defensive capabilities of animals.
>>741682930>used to be a star in dual system with Sol.
>>741667203imagine being this much of a city cuck
>>741681009>that the Earth was a flat disk carried by four elephants riding a giant turtleThat's from a Terry Pratchett fantasy novel. Nobody ever thought that.
>>741682992If that theory is true then it's more like it started as a protostar that either lost too much mass to the protostar that would become the Sun, or there just wasn't enough material where it formed in the first place, and in either case it never began nuclear fusion and became a star.
>>741667203
>>741682992why are all their names so gay and boringall other scientists dont mind having fun and naming a gene the sonic hedgehog gene or naming an animal after their girlfriend but these faggots just go to latin syllable generator dot com and send it
>>741683086it lost some mass when Saturn(with few planets in tow, including Earth)(also a star) entered Solar system and caused mayhem most of the losses come from when something(small planet or moon) hit Jupiter(Zeus) and some of its core was blasted off to create Venus(a comet that become planet)
>>741683103easy to forget their talons aren't just for show, damn
>>741683103Chickens are scary as fuckWhat are they even slicing that little faggot up with?
>>741683072it's actually from Hinduism. This drawing is from 1877.
>>741681009>lightning and thunder were gods upset at somethinplanetary or cosmic lighting are different than normal earthly onemodern era lighting can't compare
>>741681009>that the Earth was a flat disk carried by four elephants riding a giant turtle, and volcanoes were caused by demons living inside the planet?Rincewind, is that you?
>>741683276the chickens do, in fact, have large talons
>>741683181Most of Jupiter's moons and especially the large ones are named after Zeus's lovers in mythology.
>>741683181they're all named after Greek/Roman mythological figures associated with Jupiter, mostly his lovers and their children
>>741666667ThisThe last decade and a half has been utter vindication for T-Rex enjoyers.It was exactly as cool as you thought it was when you were a kid, maybe even cooler. And don’t ever let some faggot try to convince you otherwise.
>>741683276>>741683357I think he get pecked into skull
>>741683418Hail to the king.
>>741683103Serves him right
>>741663384He just like me fr
>>741683103>chicken barely kicks a thing smaller than it and it DIES>this makes faggots piss and shit themselves in fear
>>741666667The only person pushing the scavenger Rex theory was this retard, and he did it because he was upset he found eight different Rex skeletons in two summers while trying to find fossils of his true waifus, hadrosaurs.
>>741683651Can you link to all the people who are afraid?
>>741683651It's every thread with this shit too. >GUYS GUYS DO YOU THINK FEATHERS ARE SCARY YET>IF I SAY THE MOST MUNDANE THING A BIRD DOES IS SCARY WILL YOU ACCEPT FEATHERED DINOS NOW>NO GUYS PLEASE FEATHERS CAN BE SCARY TOO I SWEAR STOP LAUGHING
>>741683243Literally never heard the theory that Saturn is alien. I've heard theories that Saturn was another protostar that got fucked by Jupiter like Jupiter got fucked by the Sun, along with the idea that gas giants (not ice giants) in general are failed protostars, but not this.
>>741683835
>>741683752Autism is truly dangerous.
>>741683794Second reply is literally somebody calling chickens scary as fuck.
>>741683872do you want to hear more?
>>741683752He does look like a guy who digs in the dirt all scientifically like
>>741683941Sure go ahead, tell me your schizo theories, the thread is mostly over.
>>741682550Damn, the egyptians chose the wrong animal
>>741683875This just means people that are scared of birds are just as dumb as apes.
>>741660269Ey he cute
>>741683973https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DJnnyGSk2o>>741684003don't be racist anon, its illegal
>>741683752constant humiliation ritual with this guy>we recently found a edmontosaurus skull that showed it got bit on the fucking face by a t.rex>angle of the bite also showed it wasn’t a low to the ground bite on an already dead animal but instead the t.rex got in front of it while it was standing up, got it’s face ripped off and died from it since the bones show no sign of healing>his theory of scavenger non hunting rex got shot dead forever>at the same time his name got released of the epstein listLOL
I don't care about realism, I just want to pat dinosaurs.
>Chickens are scary as fu-
>>741684096
>>741684110>the guy brought gun to fight him>not scared
>>741684096Erm, that's a SYNAPSID not a dinosaur? It's current year anon, do better.
>>741684028I don't understand what is going on in this webm. Planets are aligned along the sun rotation axis at first, wut?
>>741681009I don't remember that because i wasn't alive
>>741684096Based.
>>741684179As you can see the chicken was easily and cleanly put down, where if it was somebody like you you'd be shaking like a leaf over a bird.
>>741668646>Oh my science! This is for you :)
Tell me, why does he had tiny arms?
>>741684093kek! well deserved I'd say
>>741684350
>>741684309Birdbros, the mammals are mogging us again...
>>741670049Or according to my animes, Australia
>>741684093Don't forget WHY he was on the Epstein list, which was to literally get funding to make Carnosaur real by mutating chickens into dinosaurs.
>>741660269It's just really obvious they are winging this whole thing.>be big post WWII jew>want people to not believe in God>want people to feel replaceable>want people to feel closer to all kinds of niggers>make up a story about how we were actually fish and then monkeys that naturally get replaced overtime>sell it to kids for a profitAnyone thinking this shit is science is the kind of retard who took the covid vax.
>>741684376BEHOLD, A MAN
>>741684193Sun is going forward and firstly catches Jupiter and add it to its system, then Saturn catching up with slower(now) Sun and its added to Solar system>>741684279stop projecting your cowardice, you chicken(kek)
>>741684482You're the one pissing yourself over some feathers and trying to convince everyone that it's justified lol
>>741684454your dates are way off
>>741684454>>be big post WWII jewactually it was big XIX century anglojew, the XX century big jew were just running with the inherited scam
>>741674102It's funny that we might even be slightly less intelligent than our hunter-gatherer ancestors some 30-40,000 years ago (and we're definitely scrawnier). Palaeolithic people had to be fit and competent generalists to survive the untamed wilds of those days. Everyone hunted, everyone gathered, everyone navigated, everyone migrated, everyone created fire, tools and shelter. You were a liability to the tribe if you couldn't pull your weight in multiple ways. There just weren't that many bodies to go around.Post-agricultural existence is one of such abundance (food, workforce, tools), it has enabled increasingly narrow individual specialization into various roles and trades, to the point that our brain sizes are something like 10% smaller than our direct homo sapiens ancestors not even that long ago. We just don't need to think and plan ahead that much anymore.
>>741684454Retard
>>741684093That fossil was just the latest in his humiliation conga. Even before he started his crusade we had Tyrannosaurus rex teeth embedded in healed Edmontosaurus and Triceratops bones and other rex-related injuries, along with knowing that T. rex had amazing visual acuity and hearing. Yet this faggot would always claim that we have no evidence of T. rex being a hunter and that because it had a great sense of smell and bone-crushing jaws and teeth that it was a pure scavenger. Never mind that the bone-crushing animal he liked to compare T. rex to, the hyena, is a powerful predator that is more successful than lions when hunting. He also claimed that because Rex had small arms that it couldn't hunt because how could it hunt without arms and no animal attacks things with its face (yes he really said and thinks this, he's completely oblivious to the world around him) and that because it couldn't run fast it wasn't a hunter, never mind its prey was just as slow and ambush hunting is a thing.And he only ever did this towards T. rex. All the other giant theropods had all the same "problems" he says T. rex has but he never claimed they were also scavengers.
>mammals
>>741684503you are the guy who need the gun to fight chicken and who project his fears on othersdon't worry, chicken nuggets will not hurt you
>>741684350Perfect size to hold Glock 19
>>741684561you are the guy who need the gun to fight chicken saarplease being scared of feathers now saar
>>741684518>slightlymost current folks would just die from their own stupidity
>>741684596Ah. So you are the jeet. No wonder you fear mighty chicken
I can kill most animals by sitting on them, they have no counterplay.
>>741684634So you agree it's brown coded to be scared of chickens. Good to know.
>>741684237And as we all know nothing happened until I was created.
>>741684191Don't care. I'll pet every pre-historic creatures from the anomalocaris, the hallucigenia, all the way to the megatherium and the megalodon. All will know the pat.
>>741684350because>>741684512>>741684517I was talking about jurassic park movies specifically, but yeah the dino psyop is recycled slop from before the war.
>>741684736Based man exerting his God-given dominion over all creation by petting things.
>>741684096Don't pat your cousin.
>>741684767
>>741684767>>741684810I love how everything is a psyop or conspiracy theory to you dumbshits. You're not special, woke, or unplugged from the matrix by thinking you hold the key to defeating evil but calling everything lies and plots.
Reminder that paleobiology was founded by a fascist and you can thank Nazi Germany for the progression of our understanding of dinosaurs.
>>741684859Who's calling everything a psyop? I'm calling macro evolution theory - exemplified by dinos, a psyop.
>>741684859To be fair a lot of the pedo shit people theorized about was right, this one is too retarded though.
>>741684859>everything is a psyop or conspiracyyes, most of things actually are a psyops and conspiracies
>>741684859If it's clearly not true it wouldn't threaten you like this.
>>741684917This, studying prehistoric remains didn't exist at all until the greatest people to ever live came around. Pity their failed so hard at cleansing the world and ridding it of the true evil.
>>741684859It's a known phenomenon. When you're retarded, and can't make logical connections between things, you can only string together arbitrary patterns based solely on accusations of foul play.
>>741685027>if you say anything about it that means you're threatened bu it!I guess all of us are extremely threatened by everything around us unless we completely ignore existence.
>>741685048This but unironically.
>>741684597If agriculture just suddenly failed, even the rugged and the intelligent ones in our modern societies would die in droves. Hunter-gatherer societies require a lot of territory to support very few people. Towards the end of the palaeolithic and the beginning of the pre-agricultural neolithic, the total global human population has been estimated to have been stable at well below 10 million. That's simply the planet's carrying capacity ceiling for such a lifestyle.You'd have to be properly on top of your hunting, tracking, trekking and innawoods survival game to count among the survivors. The upside of succeeding at such a primal life is that you'll eat way healthier than the vast majority of people since the dawn of civilization, up to and including modern times.
>>741685087Well no, but it sure has you rattled for being something that's so obviously false.
>>741684767>>741684810Anon discovers that multiple things can happen at on time.
>>741684932How is it retarded? You literally have never observed evolution of one being becoming another. You just have the "with enough time" cope excuse.Micro evolution is observable. Stalin even tried to kill a group of scientists that ran an experiment on foxes where the more aggressive foxes got separated from friendlier foxes over 10 generations and it resulted in a group of hyper aggressive foxes and another group of uber docile foxes. And stalin hated it because it disproved communism.You can still see it today in personal life by just looking at dog breeds. But all those dog breeds are still dogs. They do not turn into another species entirely.And it still doesn't ever answer the creation question. They just excuse it with long term randomness as if that was any sort of cohesive explanation. Anything to get you into a nihilistic, apathetic mindset. Truth is we were born as is. We were never fish or any other beings. We have been Humans from the start and we have nothing to do with other subspecies of Humans.
>>741685130Isn't that just the "appeal to triviality" fallacy people like throwing around here?
>>741685197You have literally never observed Jesus.
>>741685135One thing is a coincidence. But too many is a pattern.>same dates for discovery/production and completion>same mechanics for being rear wheeled>same speeds>same "eating horses" angle>the stupid "fossil fuel" naming scheme (look it up)And I've already started by saying who profits off the dinossaur narrative.It's a fucking psyop.
>>741685232No. But I can still observe that there is inherent truth to the universe and that truth to me as God.I can also observe religion and come to understand Christian theology as a rationalization of that some observation I just spoke about.
>>741685323These are very arbitrary media-produced comparisons by dumb idiot Evangelical.
>>741685434Dinossaurs are very arbitrary media-produced fantasies by dumb evil Jews.
>DA JOOS WORKED WITH... Henry Ford(?) TO CREATE T-REXWhy would Ford do any of this? Why would the Palaeontologists do any of this? Would why the Jews do this? Why would anyone do this?
>>741685241>>741685429Where's the fish and bird cross breeds? I want to see a giraffe evolve into being able to live underwater.
>>741685467Never mind that Ford himself was down-low a fascist.
>>741685516>>741685516>evolvethere is no evolution here tho, its hybridization https://www.macroevolution.net/mammalian-hybrids.htmlcheck yourself, maybe you find something
>>741685467missed a reply there old pal >>741685434Anyways, the Ford thing was because of coded communications that kept going for the word "fossil" to make oil seem rare for the masses and increase it's value. It was then picked up by propaganda jews to make movies where they steer kids into nihilism for a profit. Much how they also sold those bomb pagers to Palestinians for a profit. It's always poison and profit for these pedophiles
>>741685627>They're trying to keep the oil industry down!Goddamn you people really are patsies for every single megacorp to exist.
>>741685232I have.
>>741685689>Falling for medieval scams
>>741685724The conditions that made the shroud what it is were impossible to do in that time, but you already knew that. Start repenting.
>>741685824>Impossible to do in that timeJust like the pyramids, right schizo?
>>741685905Nah the pyramids were possible. Aryan chads made your brownoid ancestors do it lol
>>741677753those fucking wokies, how dare they ruin children's toys and dinosaurs?!
>>741677753Never in any of these threads have I seen the sort of person you're complaining about.
>>741680204>faggot zoomerssuch as yourself? go back to xitter tranny
>>741686790You may hate me for showing you the truth, but I just want you to know that I love you and only want the best for you.This is what I would say if I was the father you desperately need in your life.
>>741684380>"mammals mogging">mammal tries to play big game>crow fucks with its tail for 5 minutes as revenge
>>741687185It's over, birdsister. We lost.
>>741684536this is one of the biggest mysteries in the world to me. we (almost) all want to live a long life but when it comes to "how" and we look at other species, it seems to be completely fucking random>one random bird lives 70 years>naked mole rats are the only "hivemind" mammals and also live 3x longer than other rodents>random 400 year old shark>some random underwater blobs are immortal
>>741686852i may not have a father, but at least i don't use shitter
>>741687502Spiritually you do.
>>741683067i literally grew up on a farm and never saw a chicken do any of what you guys are describing. i have seen rabbits do it though.
>>741669343are you talking about Evangelion's First Impact?
>>741686735try reading the thread
>>741687832I did. Point them out to me.
>>741686643>>741677878the feathers shit is just trend chasingthere's no evidence for it in most families and all the scant evidence that we do have points towards them being nakedit's just that research trends favor 'inconvenient' truths and claims for the need to re-evaluate all we know and paleotology not being the most rigorous of disciplines it easily got tractionit's like when a few years ago HEMAfags decided that half-swording is the only thing swords are good for and the people who we forced to carry swords for prestige reasons only ever used them like stubby spears
