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>>741662141Erm, that's less than half of the viewers.>Adjusts glasses
When was the last Final Fantasy that actually pulled in a huge chunk of new fans apart from the MMO? Final Fantasy X? FF is living on past glories. Milking FFVII is like SquareEnix admitting they can't make a culturally impactful new FF
>>741662141Based
>>741662141Persona is the normalfag jrpg so it's not surprising
>>741662369>When was the last Final Fantasy that actually pulled in a huge chunk of new fansFF16 pulled in a lot of people on the demo/prologue. But it stopped selling after a week as soon as people caught on that the game was kind of shit
>>741662547I watched a bit of a playthrough. It was clear they had no confidence in the game when they decided to have the "villain discusses their plans" scene while they were having sex
>>741662516So is FF so that's not saying anything
well no shit revelation is the third game in a pretty middling in reception remake.
>>741662516All JRPGs are for normalfags.
>>741662741Not anymore, or at least not as much as Persona. FF hasn't been in vogue for a while.
>>741662141thanks op, we really needed some charisma vacuum on twitter to point this out.
>>741662141Imagine measuring dicks of someone else just to laugh and make everyone know about it.
>>741662141new game vs the billionth iteration of a one game remake series
>>741662141FF7 is literal Uncslop majority of zoomalphas never played so it makes sense they wouldn't care about the Demake, even KH4 hit over 1mil already yet Square have that shit on the back burner
>>741662917Sebby is /ourguy/
>>741662141That trailer was only part of everything they showed of FFVIIR. This was essentially the intro the full presentation, not to mention the thing was reuploaded a hundred times across different reactions/analysis/etc.How many times do you dick-shitters have to be told this?
>>741665408FF is dead, just let it go old man
>>741665749this, it fir unctroons
>new game>remake of a 30 year old game that everyone knows how it ends
I want more men kissing and having sex in Final Fantasy. It will surely save the series.
>>741662369XV sold really well because it was riding off the hype of Versus XIII, and it had a movie and a anime and a bunch of other bullshit tied to it before launch. The XIII trillogy was so hated the prospect of a new final fantasy not tied to those games was everything a non MMO FF fan was hoping for. I remember the old trailers with the cut love interest fighting Noctis, so much was cut, changed, or reworked into a amalgamation game that had a abysmal day 1 release. Playing FF XV 1.0 was real pain, I remember how bad everything was, 20 minute cup noodle quest, the car mechanics, magic spells being consumable grenades, summons are RNG win buttons, combat worse than KH or FF7R, Prompto, Ignis stupid blind sections, the stealth ring suck off guards dungeon that lasted forever, Ardyn being undercooked. It was the worst, FF16 is a better game but still not a good FF.
>>741666095>XV sold really well because it was riding off the hype of Versus XIIIXV was in japanese bargain bins week one
That doesn't mean anything. Many people nowadays including myself watch game trailers during the live events or in content creator videos. Also only people who played both Remake and Rebirth would care about Revelation, unlike P6 which is gonna be a standalone game. And for the record, I plan on playing both games eventually.
No matter how much of a masterpiece a game is, if you divide it into multiple parts I lose interest
>>741662516You could not possibly get more normalfag than FF7. Except maybe if we're counting Pokemon.
>>741666182Still sold 10 over million copies total, 6 million within the first month of release.
should i watch sebby?
>>741666325Normalfag for lets say 35-40 year olds. Persona gets new fans, FF and specifically FF7 does not. Persona does big on youtube/tiktok for the dating/romance stuff and how clingy people are to characters
>>741662141This guys gimmick got old very fast. He makes like a million videos hating on FF7 Remake/Rebirth. It was funny for like maybe 10 videos but now it just comes across as silly.
FF peaked in popularity in the late 90s and persona is in the middle of its popularity peak as we speak. Yes younger people have more time to watch shit on the internet
>>741666621go back to watching max jewd you fucking faggot
>>741666686Why do you have to be so dramatic? I dont like FF7 Remake either. I'm saying that the aussie guy comes across as a fake just making a million videos about the same thing every day to get views.
Persona hasnt changed its formula despite larpers wanting stupid shit like college or office workers meanwhile FF changes like every fucking game
Final Fantasy as a brand is fucked. I'm mid 30s and care about it but young people clearly give no fucks. I think there is a high chance we will not even get an FF17 and that FF7 Revelation will be the last proper FF game and any future games will just be mobile slop or mmo slop for brainless retards who enjoy mobile and mmo games.
FF7R is a garbage mix of useless cutscenes and particle effect button mashing. P6 is turnbased kino.
Persona is even worse than Final Fantasy. Persona doubles down on the turbo anime weeb incel cringe shit that atlus games are full of. Its extremely offputting. Old Final Fantasy games back in the day reined in that anime weeb shit and had it way toned down compared to other JRPGs.
>>741666872I don't really get it either. What is Purseowner doing that makes zoomers love it so much? Normie safe weebslop?
Remake and Rebirth are both so bad and padded out that I refuse to believe that anyone who enjoyed the original could ever like the remakes.
I downloaded FF15 two years ago and still haven't played it and never uninstalled it.
>>741667405Don’t play it. Even if you wanted to play it, the game plays itself anyway. Welcome to automated driving, holding Circle to combat, and holding forward to walk.
>>741666779kill yoursef
>>741667542sounds like ff13 with extra steps
>>741667565Why are you being so aggressive?
>>741662141people are more interested in a pure turn-based jrpg than a bastardization of a turn-based jrpg that replaces the magnificent tactical combat with western action nonsense
>>741667542I look at it in my library on occasion and think about playing it but I never do
There's a pretty high chance we will never even get a Final Fantasy 17. Square Enix will probably be dead before they finish it even if they are working on it right now.
They turned one game into 3 and expect people to give a fuck.
>people dont want to spoil themselves of a remake thats changing the storywhats new OP?
>>741667080>Old Final Fantasy games back in the day reined in that anime weeb shitFF7 birthing an entire generation of weebsignoring the Final Fantasy houseHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Its a good trailer. Seems like a teaser for a horror game.
>>741667807>>changing the story>In a way everyone expected>No bold choices>Predicable as fuck
>>741662141>>741665320Is he /V/ approved?
>>741667975>/V/
>>741667975yeah sebby is based not a fag like maxishillian jewd
>>741667885Why is this shit always so hard to understand for weebs when I tell them this shit. To me as a non anime weeb, games like FF7, FF8, FF9, FF10, Zelda OOT and MM and Metal Gear Solid and Resident Evil are all just Japanese games but not cringe anime weeb games. Stuff like Zelda BOTW is anime cringe, or Fire Emblem 3 houses or Persona 5 or Final Fantasy 13. Its so obvious to me the difference. If the game is cringe then its anime weeb. If its not cringe then its not anime weeb.
>>741662141P5 is almost a decade old
>>741667975no eceleb is
>>741668050FF7, 8, and 10 are weeb as fuck. 7 is the pre-emminent game that brought in a fuck ton of people to Japanese shit. You're retarded.
>>741668190hmm curious then explain why I dont find ff7,8 and 10 cringe but I did find ff13 cringe. Its obvious FF13 is anime weeb shit when ff78 and 10 were not.
>>741662141This makes Max Dood shit his pants.
>>741662141Now that Final Fantasy is dead, what's next for Squeernix?
>>741667080>>741668050You sound like one of those retards who swears up and down that street fighter isn't anime.You dont even know what you want to argue and it just comes out like You hate dating sims despite sucking on FF7 which owes Tifa to a fucking eroge.
>>741668050>games like FFVII, FFVIII, Metal Gear Solid aren't cringe anime weeb gamesCan we genuinely ban all posters on this site that say they're "not weebs" and then proceed to 100% every time give the worst takes of all timeWe get it bro, you're all on 4chan but "I'm not a weeb tho"
>>741668259I already did, I called you retarded.
>>741662141Persona games are WAY more normie than Final Trash so expect the new game to be full of mentally ill shit
>>741668312making another FF MMO because XIV is their only cashcow and they refuse to put Taro on another Nier for normalfagbux
>>741667975yes
>>741662141HOLLY LMAO
>>741662141
uncs why did final fantasy fell off so much?
>>741669845Each entry is wildly different from the previous entry aside from some connecting elements like enemies, and then the development time between entries increased with each new entry after X
>>741669845even normalfags are tired of FF7 being three gamesif you mean mainline games, it's because they've all been kind of bad since 10
>>741669845It actually fell off around FFVIII. VII made the series just too big, and then VIII, X, Spirits Within and Advent Children pushed the series into this weird Korean TV drama era that it never recovered from.Only XIV's Heavensward brought the series back somewhat by utilising game of thrones as the tonal and narrative base over the Titanic-esque stories VIII and X established.
>>741662369If only they didn't try to meme-market FFO:SoP as some sort of Limp Bizkit album... it was a great game and had potential to bring in new blood while showing what Final Fantasy is actually about. But we'd need good localization for that to happen.
>>74166984513 killed the series with 3 games of rancid dogshit so Square thought they should do that again but with 7
>>741670276if you're going to use 14 at least say Shadowbringers
>>741669845No good games since 2001
waht a faggot
>>741662369>Milking FFVII is like SquareEnix admitting they can't make a culturally impactful new FFThe funniest thing is that years ago one of the heads said that they couldn't remake FF7 until they had made a game that surpassed it, which infers that they thought 15 did that.
>>741670909>95.9901928194919491491481877626551517272913998183813713155666667137137183717191414149% similar
lmao
>>741662141grim
bump
>>741662141Kill all turd based faggots, also this faggot hasn't even played a single persoyna game.
>>741666951>P6 is turnbased kino.it's funny when persoyna shitters pretend their pokemon tier garbage is liked because of the gameplay. Meanwhile shit like SMT barely sells.
>>741667635>people are more interested in a pure turn-based jrpgpeople don't give a fuck about persoyna's gameplay. If they wanted a pure turd based jrpg then SMT would be more popular.
purse owner fans are normal faggots
>>741667736You've been saying this for a decade. They will outlive you.
>>741670909> It's 95% the same> not the same game genre> story only has the main story beats and even those are altered> art direction is nothing alikethe sad part is people will treat this like he has some kind authority or knowledge of games and isn't the equivalent to gaming journalist.
Video games have a serious problem with nobody understanding that you can BURN your playerbase and be in denial. You announce a remake of one of the most popular games ever made, you're going to sell A LOT. So you do and you congratulate yourself on how awesome you are, meanwhile 40% of the people who bought it didn't like it, but you ignore those people and only listen to the shills. You make part 2 on the same "winning" formula. It sells 40% less. WTF? HOW?! I did everything (nothing) right!The true test is if you can change course enough for part 3 or if you're just going to be salty about your "vision" and sell to 60% fewer customers.
ff fans are so weird. no wonder nobody under 35 cares about the series anymore, the cultish fans scare everyone away
>>741674908I think the decrease in sales is more due to apathy and because the first game came out during COVID People generally liked the first one
computer pull up the metaphor sales data and the persona 3 remake sales data
>>741670554>13 killed the series with 3 games of rancid dogshit so Square thought they should do that again but with 7Hard disagree. 13 was shitty, absolutely, no argument there. But 13-2 tried to course correct. You might still not like it, but you can't say they didn't try. Rebirth didn't try, they even doubled down on the bullshit. Lightning Returns is off in its own genre, I don't care if you think it's dogshit, they fucking TRIED to do something, which is what the 7R team are really not. And no, putting in a dresssphere job system so we have more bullshit to micromanage in a game that's fundamentally crap is not going to save it.
All Hail The King.
Persona fans excited to watch their next favorite game on youtube
>>741675475Persona 5 + Royal sold over 8 million. Cope and seethe.
>>741665749Never met a single person who played an Atlus RPG.
bump :3
>>741675565most of the sales were on deep discount. p5r literally went on sale a month after release.
>>741662141Millions over millions saw the 15-minute presentation at SGF. You seething manchildren are literally mentally retarded.
>>741676996Millions came to see the entire presentation. Your argument is beyond retarded.
>>741662141this guy is fucking obsessed with these demakes lmao
>>741670909Something didn't sit right with me when he went outside of fighting game content, and the following years proved my gut feeling 100% correct.
>>741676996Ok and? Doesn't mean they're gonna buy it lol.
>>741676996Correct. Final Fantasy VII Revelation was that star of SGF and millions saw all three trailers live, but deranged low IQ gooks like Sebby >>741662141 fail to understand that.
>>741662141One is a new game in the series, the other is part three of a fanfic nobody asked for.
>nobody watched the trailer>NOBODY BOUGHT redditbirth>"AIIIIEEEEEEE BILLIONS WILL PLAY THE THIRD GAME STOP BULLYING THE DEMAKE"Max shills in overdrive
>>741677668The thread is about 7R and 7, not e-celebs you troon
How did Persona get so popular with normalfags when it's literally an anime high school dating sim? I swear people were calling P3 fans Fatlus otakus back in the 00's.
>>741677959k-pop and anime is incredibly popular with the younger generations, in a way that it never was for us decades back when it was more niche in the westthe Persona games, especially containing younger chraracters in a school setting and with a pretty good soundtrack would work well with them
SEAmonkey thread
>>741662141It's over a 1 million on Square Enix's youtube channel.
>>741678268Pfffffttt hahahahahaha but I thought....wait.....hold on.....doesn't this mean....
Showing nothing is preferable to showing anything FFR related
>>741677959Joker in Smash probably caused it.
>>741662141you are a retarded turd
>>741666325Chrono Nigger is the normalfag magnet
>>741678419>>741678847
>>741678921>>741679248
Did redditbirth even sell past 3 million? Square was completely silent with its sales meaning it didnt even past 3 million like XVI. I cannot imagine how poorly the 3rd one will sell
>>741662141Final Fantasy is a franchise experiencing a rapid decline in relevance.
>>741662141Damn this nigga totally mindbroke Max.
Now let's see FF7 Remake's first teaser trailer and compare the viewshttps://youtu.be/Kznek1uNVsg?si=YNld-9vy-mM4YBrA
>>741662141This is a self own if anything, revelations is not a highly anticipated new mainline entry, it's not FF17.However P6 is indeed a new entry yet it's only doing twice as much as a literal who spinoff lol.
Final Fantasy is the Star Wars of video games
>>741680806Well at the time people thought it would be a remake, not a sequel>>7416802912m ceiling imoYou've gotta consider that no matter what since they're selling them basically as DLCs of each other each entry will sell less than the previous one
>>741681252>just look at these 100+ hour bloated demakes that are full price and look at them as DLC*breathe in*no.
>>741681252we could compare that to p3r and p4g trailers than and it would still be obvious
>>741662141>views are counted depending on how much of the video you watch>a 1 minute video gets the view recorded basically instantly over a huge long ass trailerDuh
>>741662369Cancelling Versus killed the franchise.
>>741669845from 13 onwards they've made literally every wrong decision possible>unpopular XIII trilogy>XV being an incredibly expensive yet rushed piece of shit at launch>several mobile games when the FF audience are console gamers. all of them are EOS now im pretty sure>high budget sequel to popular dissidia games on the PSP? make them arcade exclusive and flub the console versions. also its a significantly worse version of Gundam VS games with terrible load times>FF7 remake series begins but to defy expectations they completely wreck the story with time ghosts because they want to shove in all the extra side material rather than doing a straight-forward remake. people have no reason to buy into all the games until the third game is done. also Sony exclusivity hurt it significantly in the long run that they only just managed to get out of the Sony deal for Revelations, but it may be too little too late>"hmmm XIV is pretty popular, lets get that guy to make the next big FF game!!!">XVI turns out to be the most by-the-books non-committal cynically made piece of shit ever because as it turns out the guy who made the MMO succeed by avoiding as many risks as possible did the same for XVI>Coincidentally XIV also starts choking on its own shit after having its worst expansion to date>hmmmm I guess we can make one more dissidia game but as... a mobile game again!!!! this time we will surely succeedFF Resonance and Strangers of Paradise might be the only good decisions they've made as of late and it's yet to be seen if Resonance will succeed, but I bet it doesn't need much since its a fucking asset flip
Final Fantasy has been a dead IP for a really long time
>>741665202I hate ff7 remake but this guy is a fag. His entire career revolves around crying about square. He hasn't made a single bit of interesting or creative content in his life.
>>741662141>giving a shit about jewtube viewsThe browning of the internet is complete and irreversible.
>>741680291>Square was completely silent with its sales
>>7416625478.4 on metacritic means EVERYONE thought it was shit. Fucking retard kill yourself
>>741681747>its selling wellokay where are the numbers?
is this dude gonna grift persona too? cause it'll be funny if he likes p3r and metaphor so we can really talk about his taste
>>741665202If you have to say someone is /ourguy/, then he isn't /ourguy/.
>>741662141New game vs. THIRD (technically 4th/5th?) remake of a old as fuck game
>>741682134>calls him grifter>max literally had the demakefags come to his house immediately after summer games fest>acted like this was a "surprise">also acted "surprised" for tifa and had his biggest WTF reaction despite knowing she was leaked>but sebby is the grifter>max is just a wholesome chungus who definitely doesnt have crapcum and square connections for his shillingkek
>>741683246go outside bro
>>741670909The shilling for redditbirth hit peak during that time. Trailer came out any no one is talking about it.
>>741683283Not an argument. He's also right.
>>741683283>go outside browhere the fuck do you think you are newfag? If you want a LE SAFE space you can go back to plebbit or maximillians chat where you belong
>>741683283i think it's a legit schizo obsessing over this dude. they've been doing this all day
>>741683404>>741683423nobody cares about your ecelebs, faggots
>>741662369>apart from the MMO?>>741662547>FF16 pulled in a lot of peopleNeither of those pulled a single new fan of the franchise. FF13-1 was the last game to have new players, and most of them (rightfully) hated it
>>741683580>calls the man a grifter first>ACTUALLY I NEVER CARED ABOUT ECELEBSSo which is it?
Personafags have no standards
>>741683670you really are a giant faggot
>>741683836Not an argument.
>>741683670Eceleb fags get the rope
Man Final Fantasy Derangement Syndrome is in full effect today it seems. I counted at least 4 or 5 threads on the catalogue just now.Did something new happen that I missed that is causing all these sperg outs?
>>741662141AND STAY DOWN BITCH!
>>741683940ff fags getting triggered on twitter bringing it herejannies have been needing to delete some of it.at least one anon obsessively posting ecelebs associated with it apparentlyi like final fantasy. i fucking hate ff fans, they're annoying as helleceleb and twitter threads really need to be auto-banned on /v/
Sebbywebz didnt really start off as a grifter. He just talked about video games. One day he played remake and thought "this is actually kinda bad bro" and the ffdrones just wailed on him on Twitter and youtube. Being an Australian he thought this shit was amusing and he capitalized on it and made thousands passing off ffdrones.
>>741684024Agreed I love FF... But I can't stand FF fans.A bunch of more whiny cunts you will never hear in your life.It's almost always the exact same fucking statements every time too.It's like the boy who cried wolf (or in this case turn based), even if you originally sympathise with their position you eventually get so fucking tired of hearing about it... That you're almost happy when the wolf eats them just to spite them.
>>741662141I went from praising E33 to just letting it be after him and his ilk latched on to that game. I dont care whether he wants to go back to FF7-9, this guy hates JRPGs. The fact that he doesnt give 2 shits about Persona but feel the need to pretend he does just to prove a point is faggot behavior
>>741662141What is it about Sebby that makes FF7 fans seethe?A lot of FF7 "fans" online keep calling him a chud/griter/incel for providing valid criticism of the remake series, like the shitty Marvel dialogue and Kingdom Hearts plot that panders to shippers.It makes the FF7 remake fanbase look like cultists, because you're not allowed to criticize the games in any way or else you're a grifter. They're the only fanbase I've seen act this way besides Deltatroons.
>>741662547Few things about FF16, the demo was the best part of the game and people felt hood winked when they got into the full game.>PS5 exclusive>Streamers paid to play the entire game before the game was released on sale to the public>Very heavily a story game with little to no branching pathways or rpg elements so every playthrough is the same experience>Meaning, watching a streamer or playthrough of the game on Youtube is what a lot of people did instead of buying the game >Didn't release it until 1 year after on PC after the entire hype cycle had faded and the game had been viewed through streamers.FF16 killed itself through bad management practices before the game even released. That's not even to mention how much of a divergence it was from a 'FF' branded mainline single player game. >Single character, no party system>Action combat with mmo style cooldowns>Little to no rpg elements and weapons and items bought for your character are not shown on his body unlike previous FF games, they are simply a text box in a menu ( this sword gives you +5 damage)
