>>741668857k
God I love Steam Chart threads
ban steam charts threads
>Destiny still over 100k LOL
this is gonna be outdated in like 2 hours
>>741669052This is what happens when Destiny players finally play their game
Stiky Steam charts threads
Why did marathon fail?
>>741669320it didnt kek
>>741668857it's not a sprint, it's a marathon
We've lost a lot of chuds in the last 15 weeks
>>741669320Style over substance>>741669417keep coping
>>741669480They're just having a BLAST with other games. They'll be back and BLASTING within the month. Trust the process.
>>741668857we still have a couple hours to go, looks like it will crack 10k.
>>741669459>it's not a sprint, it's a marathonPheidippides died immediately after reaching Athens and declaring victory.
>>741669320>Why did marathon fail?It doesn't do anything different. If people want a better extraction shooter with deeper mechanics, they'll play Escape from Tarkov. If people want deeper shooting and movement mechanics, they'll play Apex Legends. Bungie tried to make Marathon sit in between both in the hopes that they could poach players from both of those games, but ultimately failed to achieve that.
>>741668857This time for real I doubt they will ever have more than 20k players ever again.
>>741669530if it was a failure, why are they still updating it? anons told me that's burning further trillions each day.
sir delete this sir most players are on ps sir
>>741669775Most importantly they bled every single one of their core fans to 343 and then to Destiny 2's horrific mismanagement while bizarrely continuing to burn cash like they were just coming off Halo 2. Several big names got burnt during the early, now-forgotten parts of the political schism too. And instead of return to the classics to rebuild an audience or even launch a few test products to see what might catch, they full sent with this Frankenstein's monster.
>>741669938There's people on the Marathon subreddit who are fully convinced that the game will reach its peak again once the game is fixed in season 5.
>>741669320Don't cater to the PVP crowd who quickly go to the next FOTM when the casuals are the ones who carry your games.
>>741669938>this time for real mane. ignore the last 20 times I was wrong
>>741670247If there was no f2p weekend I was right when I said that the first time. The game has been at a stagnant 20k or less for a while now.
>>741670008>if it was a failure, why are they still updating it?A game receiving updates doesn't mean that it's successful. See:HighguardSuicide Squad: Kill The Justice LeagueAnthemLawbreakersSkull & BonesStar Wars: OutlawsRedfalletc. etc.
>>741668857Almost as sad as the latest gachashit release
>>741668857Huh. So the update did basically nothing.
>>741670498That actually makes money though
>>741670558Season 2 + free week + 30% sale. It did absolutely nothing, because now just 3 weeks after those things launched, it's right back to the same numbers as before those things. Bungie must be shitting their pants right about now.
>>741669320Most of the people who ought to be automatic buyers for Bungie games saw the artstyle and NOPED out.Game is like Halo without the things that actually make Halo special.
>>741670558Somewhat increased the game's revenue judging by the fact that it was top 10 selling for a bit
>>741670669bunge shiddin dey pants because the concurrent goyim count is low on the lines website
>>741670498Most people play this on phone, Marathon is played most on Steam
>>741670498This game has been out on PC for years and Mihoyo fans already know to go look for the standalone launcher.Why would they switch to playing on Steam?
>>741670646>relaunched 4 timesNegative money, yeah.
>>741670498>Released June 16Am I fucked? I could have sworn it was out on PC longer than that.
>>741669320when Geoff awards it GOTY 2026 I'll remember this post and laugh
>>741670498The 5th relaunch will save it!(the 4th relaunch was the steam one)
>>741670916You're absolutely delusional if you think it's even getting nominated for goty
>>74167049810k playing gacha shit on a PC is actually really good, plenty of other games wish they had those numbers.
>>741670732>Somewhat increased the game's revenue judging by the fact that it was top 10 selling for a bitAre you sure that you are misremembering? It was in the top 10 prior to launch, but I'm like 99% sure it only peaked into top 100 briefly for season 2 before drastically falling again.
remind me why they killed destiny for this again?
They fucked up new season so bad and all the bungie shills went back to Destiny. Literally worst possible outcome for the game
>>741668857>4 digits player count todayOH NO NO N O NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NOMARATROONS, ARE YOU OK?
>>741671440Sony/Bungie were convinced that if they killed Destiny, all the previous Destiny players would just move onto Marathon.Yes, they are that retarded.
>>741670904It was on phones and own launcher for years yeah. Its also on timmys Epic store but Steam release is very recent and years apart from og launcher and phones.
>>741668857Don't show this to Sony execs or investors, they might have a stroke
>>741668857[Heartbroken Jews]The Moloch Message is so hated that we can't even give it away!
>>741670498Still beating Marathon's 24 hour peak and probably doesn't even account for 20% of its PC playerbase (nevermind phones), LMAO
>>741669320Instead of making a decent Halo clone they made some ugly ass thing with zero appeal and then slapped as much exploitative skinnerbox shit onto it as possible.Now it's getting mogged by some $5 HLDJ clone app from 2016
>>741672481>Now it's getting mogged by some $5 HLDJ clone app from 2016Is micspam back? I miss those days...
>>741668965Based
>>741668857Why is it that some games just psychologically don’t exist? Like I have a steam account, this is available on steam, I see it posted here every day, but never once in my mind have I ever been curious to buy it?
>>741672579It has no appeal
>>741670008so many flops still gets updates months after release date retard >>741670498>comparing steam version of mihomoslop to your dying game trying to find a winmarathonkeks getting desperate
3 more months til sony drops them
>>741669010Why are there so many anti-steam(anti-consumer) shills on this board? I even seen a post about steams ai content disclaimer before and there were so many shills calling it a bad thing. Genuine retards or is there a psyop going on?
>>741672537TF2's really the only game that still tolerates it these days.
thanks OP almost forgot to laugh at this game today
>>741672895shit bait
i hope bungie devs kill themselves after this
>>741672895>Genuine retards or is there a psyop going on?It's bots and hired pajeets.
>>741670142ARC tanked because they catered to carebears, though.
Eh the game has solid fundamentals so I'm sure it'll have legs and with destiny out of the way they can spend some resources to attract pve shitters to it
>>741668965Based and same.>>741669010Hold still while I tell you about Sevastopol's security protocols.
>>741671648I think they probably thought a small subset would (the Destiny PVP community), but the decision to kill Destiny was made before Marathon even launched.Someone at Sony fucked up big time by thinking a niche extraction PVP shooter would have more staying power than a 10 year running PVE casualslop franchise.
>>741668857Today's peak looks like it will be 10100, but tomorrow's peak could easily be the first sub-10k one unless it's a big patch day or smth
>>741670558It might have hit 9.9k two weeks earlier without it. >>741670732>>741671404It was number 5 for one day, but that was the returning players buying battle passes. There were SOME new players, but because overall population kept dropping, whatever players were joining were fewer than the ones leaving.
HUMILIATION RITUAL
>>741673426>and with destiny out of the way they can spend some resources to attract pve shitters to itI don't know if they will even have the manpower to create any meaningful PvE. On July 15th a bunch of Bungie employees are going to quit because that's the due date where they can collect money from the $3.6 billion purchase, and Sony is also going to lay off like half of the remaining company. They might unironically go from 800 employees down to 100-200 employees.
>>741673785>Bungie employees quitting in JulyIf the layoff rumors are true, I bet there will be even more people leaving because they're just done with the place. Like if my friends got laid off but I was left working on Marathon and I had stock money from the Sony sale, I'd sure consider saying fuck it, quitting, and taking a nice, long summer vacation.
>>741668857chud didn't do this
>>741669320people were expecting TDM and play it like TDM and then die over and over and get shitty and quit.it has probably the worst on-boarding for new players of any extraction shooter.they are thrown in with no instruction to be lambs to slaughter for others who know what they're doing.
>24 peak 10,115so will we see sub 10k peaks this week before thursday or next monday?
>>741669320tranny art style
The craziest part is there is a sizeable amount of very vocal Linux trannies that want to play the game but unironically are boycotting it. You can't make this shit up
>>741668965>>741669010>the duality of man
>>741670558It could go f2p next week and be where it is now
>>741670498dangerously based
The funniest part of all of this is that no one who played the game for free bought it. It has a lower player count right now than before season 2
Ten years later and /v/ still can't figure out what concurrent means, crazy.
>>741669320No appeal Who the fuck actually wants to play a game about 3d printed nigger tranny robots shooting each other with plastic guns
>>741674591It could very well be tomorrow night unless there's a patch that fucks with the numbers. Marathon seems to lose 2.5% to 3% of its players each day, or roughly a few hundred right now.
>>741675151>this is how leftoids convince themselves that they're smartYes, anon, the people who are laughing at the fact that only a small number of people are playing on a Saturday night think that this is the absolute total playerbase.
>>741675207Honestly, if someone had the balls to make an actual Gay Niggers from Outer Space game and somehow get it listed on Steam, I'd consider playing it.
>>741675151Fax. Marathon sold ateast six million copies
>>741675263>Gay niggers from outer space Just caused Dr.Who to be cancelled
>>741675263Obsidian is potentially on the chopping block due to low sales.
>>741675258>think that this is the absolute total playerbaseYes, they say so frequently, and have done this for about a decade
>>741675324No, I meant this actual thing by that name.>>741675437Obsidian is part of Zenimax, so I don't know how that gets handled if Microsoft does layoffs. Their last few games (Avowed and Outer Worlds 2) were big stinkers though, and since Todd has a personal grudge against FNV being better than all of Bethesda's Fallout games, I could see Bethesda (corporate) closing them down.
>>741675453Why do you think that people are so transfixed on weekend numbers, Mr. Genius?You're against IQ tests for voting because you can't figure them out.
>>741675554>Why do you think that people are so transfixed on weekend numbersThey're not, they're transfixed (and just plain trans) on concurrent numbers, because they don't know what concurrent means. This has been a constant pattern with /v/ for, again, ten years or more.
>>741668965>>741668914>>741668857>>741669010bump
>>741675698My brother in Christ, the player count is so low that not even Bungie has tried bragging about it. CCUs are a better metric anyway because it shows live interest in a game at a given point in time.
>>741674674That may be so, but I'm just surprised because the general opinion I heard was that people enjoyed the changes they made closer to release. Looked the same to me though
>>741675797>My brother in ChristWhy are bots on /v/ so transfixed with this sort of meme pidgin? It's like they only have a small handful of preprogrammed words and phrases that they keep on a rolodex.Regardless, I'm not really going to read your post because you opened it with a retard signal, but the truth remains the same - /v/ has posted threads similar to this one for a decade or more, and the root cause is a fundamental lack of understanding for what concurrent means.
>>741671648>Sony/Bungie were convinced that if they killed Destiny, all the previous Destiny players would just move onto Marathon.From suits (who dont play games, those for kids) those two games must have looked like very similar products, so I bet they cant wrap their heads around why the population of product 1 is not just transfering over to product 2I mean you go around and shoot stuff in both, right?
>>741668857so is there any reason to even touch this over arc raiders?
>>741676140*from suits point of view
>>741676178Its not third person and theres no cornerfagging i guess?
>>741676178No, not really. That time would have been two weeks back when it was f2p. And the sweats are now approaching the top of the power curve, so it's likely you'd just get raped more than anything.
>>741676140unironically yeah. even their marketers make reference to the fact that its >the best shooter in a long time>shooter of the yearand stuff. nigga it's not a "shooter" it's an extraction game.
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
>>741669320strict pvp hero shooter but with tarkov shit is the worst genre they could've possibly picked
>>741668857Shut down soon
>>741668857HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>For season 2 they copypasted an already existing map but made it dark >For season 3 they're adding trees to an already existing map Over 400 devs btw!
>>741676335>10,115>that's today's peakjesus CHRIST
>>741668857>less than 10K players is all that stands between Sony and bankruptcyBetter milk those whales dry.
[Heartwarming News] Destiny 2 had over 10 times the players Marathon did today, on its worst platform
>>741676986That's fine. We can use that momentum to announce Destiny 3, and sell a significant amount of preorders while the game is being developed.
>>741677045my fuhrer, sonny is gutting our division. Those who could sell their stock options are already leaving
i thought they didnt care about player count
>>741676240>cornerfaggingas opposed to audio fagging?
>>741677119That was Highguard's devs, anon.
>>741677154as opposed to faggot fagging, your specialty faggot
>>741670498Unlike anybody else, MiHoYo actually has their own and functional game client.
>Spend $500m making Destiny 3>Make billions in revenue Or>Continue spending money on marathon ($300m and counting)>Go further into the red every day
>>741676361I love it
>>741669320Because it wasn't a remake like Doom 2016
>>741677274>Japanese spywarepass
I'm genuinely baffled. I told /v/ that it doesn't matter how much money Marathon loses, it can be funded by Destiny 2.ONLY FOR DESTINY 2 TO BE SUNSET.
>>741668857Oh, shit!
>>741676335we will keep logging on every day so that it doesn't drop below 10k
>>741677461It's worse than that, they're going to gut Bungie AGAIN to keep Marathon afloat.Sony spent 3.6 billion on Bungie only to layoff most of the people in the studio and kill the studio's only source of revenue. It's looking like Sony will end up with nothing more than Bungie's IPs before long.
>>741669320No transsexual negro boxcutter wielding characters to play.
i somehow got banned on the Marathon steam forum, fuck im not even sure if i ever posted there lol, is anyone else banned?
>>741670916Buying an award doesn't make your game successful. You can't pay your employees with an award.
>>741668857runners, we need to do better and to run on multiple devices at the same time
>>741680094oh i did make one reply to a shit post telling people that battleye doesnt uninstall with the app, that was my crime, being helpful
>>741670923>>741670841Are you retards implying it's more than one just calling big patches a relaunch?
>>741680094getting banned is an achievement
>>741678005Based retard.
>>741676856Something something you don't wanna overdeliver
>>741680302it's a ritualpost, like minty and mibibi
>>741668857B-but I thought sub 10k was never gonna happen? I thought season 2 saved the game??
>>741680432Sub 10k already happened month+ ago anon, keep up with the timesWe're now waiting for the sub 3k, I have my reaction img folder ready for the occassion
>>741680876>sub 3kI genuinely think they are botting this game hard now to keep it close to 10k as possible.Also, jesus fucking croist those are some big tiddies!
>>741668857I have fun with the game but yeah season 2 fucking sucks, loot got RAPED and in week 2 we were already back to week 11 levels of lootShame!
>>741669160>This is what happens when Destiny players finally play their gameDestiny players haven't had a real reason to play the game for years and finally with the game's death and final update being given a reason to. All destiny players ever wanted Bungie to do was update old content with modern rewards and we finally got that. Now that the game is dead and there's nothing new ever coming to it giving the entire loot pool a refresh was unironically the best thing that happened to the game in years.
>>741668857>Sub 10kI'm gonna miss laughing at Marathon with you guys once it inevitably crashes /v/ros.
>>741681370why?
>>741668965i look like this and say this
>>741681395They are dipping closer into lobby players insolvency each passing day, and when that happens the game will go into freefall.
>>741669320not being a free to play game
>>741681757people weren't interested when it was free to play for an entire week either
>>741681702>lobby players insolvencyYou mean like games not starting because there aren't enough players for full lobbies? I feel like that can't be that close. Aren't games 5v5 and 6v6?
>>741681793the drop off from the free weekend was so fucking sadusually, it should increase
>>741669320woke
I'm tired of pretending Destiny is good game>It's better than maratroon!Try having higher standard
>>741681943Not necessarily, but you can only wait 10+ minutes to get into a match for so long before you're fed up, and every player leaving moves the threshold a bit further, a self sustained death loop, saw it happen with Paladins back in the day but that game was F2P, nobody is buying Marathon anymore so i imagine it will go much faster here.
>>741672537I micspam in Marathon lol
>>741673009this dead cat bounce will never not be funny
>>741669320>Extraction Shooter
>>741684785poopgods won
>>741684785Based blasthaver
I enjoyed it but I'll be playing something else until they create a proper solo experience. Not only is PvE not rebalanced but one of the maps is simply unplayable.
>>741684785is this some jap fetish shit
>>741674674>>741670695>>741672481the art style is the one good ting about it, though
>>741669320It's the ugliest game ever designedEven if it had the best gameplay of all the shooters I wouldn't have tried it because it's so unappealing to look at
>>741677461it's a bit more complicated than thatbungie is one of the worst of the leftard gaming companies when it comes to financials, it's run horribly with sky-high overhead and thousands of worthless employees taking money to do nothing, so destiny has always been treading water or losing moneythe only reason destiny as a franchise survived as long as it has is because the upper management has constantly been shilling the company to investors for a big investment bump which it keeps getting due to brand name recognition and player numbers. the sony buyout was the most absurd scam they've ever run and it became extremely evident recently - sony is completely sick of their shit and REFUSES to offer them more cash to burn as they continue losing more and more money. the endgame is bungie failing to hit a financial target with marathon and the studio being dissolved into other sony studios.this is all confirmed from various sources (not just conjecture)
>>741670776I always think it's funny how racist lefties get when the snark mask comes off and you actually touch a nerve. Immediately they start shrieking "BROWN BROWN BROWN" or talking in ebonics like the most racist /pol/tard you've ever heard.
>>741685196the character design actually sucks asswhy they didn't just do regular robots or faceless dudes i'll never understand
You gotta admit, of all the Concords, this one's holding on for dear life. Purely outta spite. They know this shit is cooked, but they could NOT shut it down in a couple months and continue to be a laughing stock, or thought of as "not giving games a chance to right the ship/find an audience." So they'll give it a year. But damn. What a black year it will be. Throwing money into the void.
>>741680876Not the daily peak I believeAs in "24 hours where the game didn't reach more than 9999 players at least once"
>>741685374I think it's really funny dedicated fans like>>741675151are spending their summer ferverishly logging into the game every day like a full time job.
>>741685196Plastic George droid isn't appealing to anyone.
>>741669320
>>741676178Actually good map design, shooting, gameplay and world
>>741685319>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnRcKC4RgscThe latest GitS series trailer is legitimately copying aspects of Marathons non-character style in some strange incestuous humiliation ritual. People like to say the production company Science Saru is woke yet they're flaunting Motoko in both trailers. Good character design or even living up to the Mielgo cinematic short as far as making glitch/vandal cute not fidelity would have gone a very very long ways to getting people on their side.
>>741685752more like judathon
>>741685319Ziegler insisted on a hero shooter aspect. And it has the side effect of killing monetezation attempts.
>>741685374One things for sure. You really can't say it didn't get a fair chance from Sony.
blaster status?
>>741676178It's fundamentally a different appeal. The ONLY people who should consider marathon are people who want an uncompromising, sweaty as fuck high stakes shooter, with lower than average execution, but higher than average mental shit, like audio, reading movement ect, AND have a dedicated team of three. People who enjoy having their team rape the fuck out of other teams. Arc appeals to PVE carebear types. >>741685878Dickless here takes his biotoxic disinjector rectally.
>>741686358Sorry you suck at the game, Arc Shitter
just wait for the weekend surge chud the dads of marathon are still having a blast
>>741686681>dads of marathonbuddy... i've got some bad news for you
>>741670695Halo wasn't special. It was generic to the extreme. Marathon offers the same type of sloppy experience with recycled gameplay and aesthetics. The only difference is the marketing budget Halo was shilled to death, this was not.
>>741669320I love extraction slop. Hated this one since the character design was ugly, the world looked like plastic, and the gameplay was basic and casualized. The aesthetics matter a lot here since you can get away with a lot by getting players feeling immersed and pumped with anxiety and adrenaline. Played the open beta, found it shit, told others it was shit, they agreed, copers eventually relented, and shelved it. A shame too since I really liked the idea of Marathon due to the Halo era. Shame they flopped it with shit designs.
>>741686954Autistic child soldier raised Spartans = coolbalenciaga freakshow = the ick
>>741686954>Halo wasn't specialIt wasn't?Awesome. That means there's at least five more games from 2001 that have very similar gameplay to Halo. Can you list them so I can play them?
>>741668857What do you think? Everyone is playing it on console
>>741687075None of the child soldier stuff was in the bungie games, you were clowned on for reading the halo books back in the 00s, no one gave a shit they just wanted to shoot space muslims.
>>741687158>you were clowned on for reading the halo books back in the 00slol
>>741687252quit having a blast - blast haver
>>741687118AvP2 has a similar playstyle and setting, and is equally shitty.
>>741687252Doomposting Marathon is genuinely fun.
>>741687815No it doesn't lol. You really are a LARPer. Playing as Predator would be the closest thing I guess. But even then it's barely alike other than "guy with power armor and motion tracker blasts through enemies"
>>741687948>guy with power armor and motion tracker blasts through enemiesThis while moving slowly, with Hollywood ambitions. You got it.
>>741688017Uh huh. I find it really funny this has already devolved from "name 5 games even remotely similar to Halo" to "1/3rd of 1 game is kind of alike if you squint"You can dislike Halo without being a gay LARPer about it you know. You just make you and yours look really pathetic when you do this.
>>741668857is Marathon even woke and feminist ??? never gave me that vibe.
>>741688836It's made by Nu-Bungie, so yes
>>741668857JANNIES, WHAT. THE. HECK?!?!STOP THIS THREAD IMMEDIATELY!!!
>>741669320It's a complete mystery
>>741670695There was nothing special about halo it was always just the default first person shooter for people who are too poor or stupid to own a PC. eg: niggers. Fps without a mouse lol.
>>741669320extraction shooters are designed for trolls
>>741670498Zenless released years ago, you dumb or something? So this would be just new players
>>741669320People want a singleplayer shooter not a multiplayer extraction live service crap
>>741669320Extraction shooters are too hard for the average shitter
>>741668965have another one
>>741670498no other hoyo game is on steam. zzz is a bigger flop than miliastra.
>>741669160D2 has had 200-300k players for every full-price expansion launch. Under Activision they hit Bungie with rainbow initiatives, layoffs, and killed Cayde-6. Under Sony the game was given endless hopelessness narratives, "maybe the bad guys were right" narratives, Uldren Sov, universally hated, even came back. Then they collab'd with Disney slop, all the while doing MORE layoffs and taking hundreds off Destiny to work on Concord and Marathon. They literally paid 3.6 billion to bury the Destiny franchise. It represents the kind of audience and storytelling globalists despise.
>>741691757>NOOOOOO NOT THE HECKING QUIRKY ROBOT CHARACTER NOOOOOOOOOOYou are exactly the faggot I picture when I think of the Destiny fanbase
lol marathon flopped
>>741691801Oh no, a modern audience shill doesn't like Destiny players, Gabe, and sexy video games on /v/, what a surprise.
>>741691576Hey anon, which one is supposed to be the always online extraction shooter and which is the single 'player one and done' experience?>Also, Maratroon is 8k away from Pragmata's numbers 2 months after launch!
>>741692510OK, let's see how it holds up against another singleplayer game made by an indie studiowhen do you suppose Pragmata is gonna catch up on sales and players?
>>741692819>the Game Awards Sweeping Masterpiece gets 5k 24 hour players than Pragmatica and 2k more concurrent at 5 AM.Well played, retard-anon. I guess we truly know who the alpha loli is now.
>>741691801I would rather the quirky robot than all the tranny and faggot shit they been pushing
>>741673741>3.3 years>3 months>6 figures (divisible by 3)What the FUCK does it mean?
>>741668965I think it just goes to show people will play the same slop or go back to the same slop eventually. Gamers are their own worst enemy.
>>741668965His drink of choice? Cum
>Highguard peaked 97k>Marathon peaked 88kHIGHGUARDIANSWE WON THE 2026 WAR OF THE WOKEFLOPS (IN SOME METRICS)
>>741692912it's also a year old, how many pedos will Pragmata attract a year later? 100? 50?
>>741669320Unappealing genre and artstyle. Too niche of a product to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on
>>741692819What are you, fucking retarded? A single player game is available forever and can be played whenever. A multiplayer pvp live service game lives and dies by the playercount
>>741693463>how many pedos will Pragmata attract a year later? 100? 50?Will still be more than Maratroon's player count a year from now, regardless!
I've got Tarkov recently and it became even more bizarre how Bungie managed to fumble so hard. Seems the only note they took from EFT was>uhhh rat CBT pvp hardcore broooo lets gooooo chat!Gameplay aside, loot in Tarkov feels rewarding, valuable things are valuable and food/drinks are a necessity, and when you find some NATO guns or modern AKs and attachments it feels cool, because they look cool and are useful. Meanwhile in Marathon you're cyber terrorist who sends their digitized consciousness to a robot on an alien planet and you're looting... legos... and used trash cans... The only cool piece of loot is the meme cheeseburger, everything else are just different colored squares, this is so fucking lame.Funny thought that crossed my mind is that post-soviet bloc may feel more alien to some people than whatever Bungie has made.
>>741694071Not to mention you can /fa/ your guy in Tarkov. You have to buy some shitty ugly overpriced skin in Marathon, or unlock one of the ugly free skins in the Codex.
>>741668857it-its n-not the week end season 3 waiting roomcomeback to be studied
Yeah Marathon is fucked. They had one chance during this small window where no other game was competing with it. Failed miserably. Now you got GTA 6, DMZ, Space Tarkov, Arc Raiders big update, other smaller extraction shooter games like Beautiful Light, and in general other games stealing the attention of gamers. Too many other games will release in the following months and Marathon won't have the undivided attention of the gaming populace. It is so over.
>>741668857Non meme question here, why is the pattern of the 'heartbeat' so consistent? Doesn't this mean that nearly the same amount of people are logging in at the same time/days of the week every month consistently? I wonder if I'm interpreting the chart wrong or maybe it's botted? I don't know i just find it interesting and i would like an actual answer because while i couldn't care less about marathon i am genuinely curious
>>741694686I said week and month but i meant hours and day *
>>741673424I don't see how this is true arc tanked mostly because there's nothing to do and there is/was cheaters galore in every lobby those two things combined are absolutely aids.
got my money's worth but think I'm done. good core tainted by shit systems and a gay company
>>741669320A better question is, what reason would it have had to succeed?For every big multiplayer genre there is broadly speaking, room for 2, maaaaybe 3 games. Does it really do anything that other extraction shooters don't? Does it compete in any meaningful capacity with what escape from tarkov does in such a way that it would convince tarkov players to switch, or convince people who opted not to play tarkov to play marathon? Does it do so for arc raiders?Right now everybody making an extraction shooter desperately wants to be the fortnight to tarkov's PUBG. But say what you want about fortnight, at the end of the day it legitimately did offer something to get people interested in it. By grafting on a building system (or rather technically, by taking a game with building and grafting a battle royale onto it) they managed to make something different than the other big battle royales of the time, and managed to carve their own niche. They happened to be lucky enough to have an artstyle and tone that lent itself well to crossovers as well, allowing themselves to expand way past their competition. Does marathon do that? Does it add any even remotely compelling twist on the formula? Do you think you will eventually load into a run of marathon and see rick and morty or thanos running around? Of fucking course not. I personally suspect that if there will be a fortnight to tarkov's pubg, it will probably end up just being... an alternate game mode for fortnight.
>>741695174>Does marathon do that? Does it add any even remotely compelling twist on the formula? Do you think you will eventually load into a run of marathon and see rick and morty or thanos running around? >Of fucking course not.Show your playtime
>>741691576>>741692819>>741693463>Pragmata sold over a million copies in 2 days >Marathon sold around 1.5m in 3 months I knew maratroons were pathetic but holy fuck dude lmaooo
>>741668965Same here.Here's a pic of me by the way.
They themselves probably can't explain why they wanted to make this game. They made it without any passion or vision.
>>741696164so when is Pragmata crossing 8 million sales? :^)
>>741676028k thx keep us posted
>>741668857>under 10k alreadyRemember when Bungie was a titan in the industry?
I need to edit that meme image where it says "I don't give a fuck what people are doing on Twitter" to say something like "I don't give a fuck what Marathon's numbers are or what is happening to it." So, I can spam it in these threads since Marathon fanboys want to spam Marathon threads multiple times a day to complain and shill the game. I hope it shuts down so I can laugh about it.
>>741694071The loot falls flat in every soulless EFT clone>junkbox full of candy and cigarettes
>>741696420>so when is Pragmata crossing 8 million sales? :^)When Marathon gets over 20k active players!
>>741696897I feel like Gray Zone Warfare is heading in right direction, but looting there really is a direct copy from Tarkov. Don't fix what's not broken, I guess. Though because of the setting a lot of items are worthless filler, but devs are planning on doing crafting next, so maybe finally there'll be a reason to check toolboxes.
>>741669052>destiny 2 over 100k>marathon under 10klets close d2 lmao
>>741669320250m budget for a hardcore extraction shooter that wouldve been just fine at 50-75m budget range.Bungie killing itself by gambling it all on a new new ip and killing their cash cow should be studied.
>>741668965Is that nigga drinking chocolate milk?
Game is UGLY as sin. I didn't need to know anything more.
>>741668965Cheers
>>741698310I think it looks neat
>>741668857>game is presented and advertised as am extraction shooter>plays like a battle royale>has a massive cheater infestation>has developers who dont know what they are doing>busted meta for gameplay where a pump-action shotgun and a burst-fire pistol dominate PvP loadoutGee, i wonder why.Maybe they should just ditch PvP entirely considering that they cannot do anything about cheaters and cannot balance the game, focus on PvE and story/plot and release more maps with interesting environments.
>>741686514Sorry your game is dead on arrival, Maratroon
>>741698869I think you should visit an optometrist.
>>741685319This has got to be one of the least appealing artstyles ever conceived.
>>741668965same anon same, cheers.
>>741675151concurrent is the only figure that matters for a multiplayer-only, fully matchmade game that doesn't even launch if you can't fill the map with enough people. Ten years on and retards can't seem to understand that concurrent players are REQUIRED for these games to even exist
>>741692819Let's take a look at a singleplayer game released around the same time as Marathon!
>>741668857At this point its just go free 2 play or slowly die over the next year.
I was there during the launch week. i remember when slay the spire 2 btfo'd marathon when they both launched like an hour apart or some shit. sts2 had like 500k players or sumshit.
>marathon is making negative money with server costs>destiny is making more money the marathon purely off in-game skin sales>sony wants bungie to work on destiny and not marathon>bungie doubles down on working on marathon>sony reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeingyou cannot make this shit up esp after what happened with concord and helldivers
>>741668857>Be bungie>make two of some of the biggest IP's in gaming>then just shit the bed with marathonWhat even happened?
>>741668857care to explain this, snoysisters?
I only play chinese games
>>741700229They went full tilt into pozz, nothing good ever comes from that.
>>741700173neither game makes money brodestiny is 15 years old and used to have 30million players, it gets about 700k now mostly on console
>retards are still compairing singleplayer game chart vs liveservice multiplayer chart as a metric of success to defend their flopit's not even grasping at straws at this point what the actual fuck are you niggers doing?
>>741699906wow, a single player linear RPG with no replayability that cost double the price STILL has more players than maraslop LMAO
>>741669320Too hardcore for casualsToo expensive for poorsToo ugly for anyone with tasteToo trans-coded for chuds
>>741691576the monkey RAPED you
>they could have easily followed up on Marathon Infinity>the entire industry is STARVED for FPS games, let alone sci-fi FPS0>ditch the whole thing for an extraction shooter
>>741700749every FPS has to be either counter strike or apex legends with some hero shooter shit tied to it, sorry
>No new map for season 2>No new map for season 3I think they just want the game to die at this point lol.
>>741700904they're rushing to do a genre pivotmore maps right now means splitting the already small playerbase
>>741670916getting GOTY won't give Sony back the 500m+ it has lost
>>741700904No, they just got too used to the destiny development cycle where they could half ass content and miss every deadline and retards would still throw money at them.
>>741700749the worst part for me is not only the extraction shooter part, but the fact that after Barret got the boot for supposedly being a sexpest, they replaced him with a fucking valorant guy and he immediately just turned it into a hero shooterlike, how fucking blatant can you be? Fuck off. Can you stop just mashing random "popular" shit together and hoping it becomes a hit and come up with something a bit original for once?>CS with heroes was a hit, so why wouldn't it work for an extraction shooter?Like, are we for real?Who keeps hiring this cunts>Valorant was a hit? SURELY THIS FUCKHEAD WAS THE SOLE REASON THE GAME WAS A HIT, AND HE CAN MAKE IT HAPPEN AGAIN>m-make it a hero shooter...>everyone claps>How does he come up with this shit?!?!?
>>741701010>comparing a solo-dev single player game with like 50$ budget to a massive AAA live service game costing hundreds of millionsThese people need to be executed to clean the gene pool
>>741701209lmao brownoid can't read
>>741701010This is just throwing good money after bad. I hope Sony realizes thatThat money would be better spent just making a new game from scratchThis is just gonna alienate the already existing, albeit small, player base while failing to attract a new player base, since everyone already wrote off the game as an uninteresting failure
>>741685196I honestly do like the game's art style. I still think the game looks ugly due to having that same ugly blurry TAA flat dynamic lighting look as most games these days. Other games with similar minimalistic artstyles like Mirror's Edge and Portal still look great to this day due to having baked lighting. I wonder how much better the game would look if they used the older rendering technology and methods from those games.
>>741701209marathon blast-haver were trying to make fun of the haters saying marathon should be a different game, but Paul Tassi who's a known insider is suggesting that what's they're literally doing
>>741669052I wish we knew the numbers on Destiny 1 on Xbox and PS4/5, could unironically be close to Marathon
>>741669320oversanitized art direction
>>741670498retard
>>741701294i don't think anyone at bungie thought marathon was suppose to replace destiny as their main revenue.but that's bungie unfortunate reality now, and sony won't give them any choice. genre pivot and relaunch is their only hope.
>>741701523then their fate is sealed, because this is not gonna work
Really don't get the hate, game is fantastic, amazing audio, good feel on shooting.
>Are any other BLAST havers having a total BLAST with this lightning in a bottle?!?!?!?
>>741701647you enjoy slop.that's ok.
>>741701724Me It's really fun
>>741699360You need to have an hdr screen to really see
>>741701796ok i guess
Im gunna play some marathon today.
>>741701605Nah I think they have a solid core user base that will only grow as they add more content and people realize they should stop listening to whiny poorfag casuals on /v/
>>741701478>That blurry background and textures.I do wonder how much better this game would look with baked lighting?
>>741669320It looks like shit.I watched someone else play and he was just shooting robots that hardly did anything. So, ugly and boring. Never bothered after that.
>take a single player fps with good lore and story>turn it into a always online pvp extraction game with no storyGood job, bungie. There was no way they could see how this would fail.
>>741702012one day you will come to realize that social media "hate" is just noise and not even close to 1/50th of the reason why the game failedthere are plenty of other reasons why the game floppedand believe me, neither /v/, nor Twitter, nor whatever the fuck social media you consume had anything to do with it
>>741668857>>741668965@grok do a TA on this graph please
>>741668857Delet this!!!This is literally trans erasure, you can’t do that in pride month!!!
>>741675151>line go downThat's all I need to know.
>>741702173No you're just stuck in a bubble
>>741701478This looks like fucking Reboot lmao
>>741669320First of all - anyone who accuses Marathon of having bad art direction is retarded soulless nigger that should be killed like the dumb animal that he or she is. Art, lore and music are this game's only saving grace.Answering anon's question - Marathon is just badly designed. Maps are too small, sounds too loud, tools to track players way too accessible, pve too easy and items drops are too stingy, advantage of having better items is way too big, as a result the game developed meta of everyone just deathmatching or waiting in ambush in hotspots until the map is wipedIt's not an extraction shooter even though everyone wants to sell it to you that way, it's battle royale with added exfil mechanic.
>>741668857Oh no sisters, how can the new all time low be higher than the previous all time low.
>>741702812Uhh what are you talking about br doesn't have salvage mechanics
>>741702012>solid core base that's still dropping week after week
>>741702638
>>741695025What specifically? Actually curious because I’ve yet to sink many hours into it
>>741702935You're so close to getting it anon
>>741702012S2 was their last chance to salvage the game's reputation and they failed. No one is going to care about S3 with all of the fall release and GTAVI, the new game smell will be long gone by then.
>>741702812>anyone who accuses Marathon of having bad art direction is retarded soulless nigger that should be killed like the dumb animal that he or she isI say this about anyone who enjoys the trannycore art style.
>>741669320Because it’s a shooting game but the map is so huge that it takes 5 minutes to find someone, and you only get one life so when you die you have to requeue and find another match. Also the NOV enemies have no variety and are all brain dead, so there’s nothing to do but try to hunt other players. Why on earth did anyone think this genre was a good idea?
>>741703171Bungie is a retarded company run by retard with retarded employees. If there was a system in destiny that sucked but was finally fixed and a similar got into Marathon it still sucks and won't be fixed because bungie can't learn from their mistakes. It's just not worth getting into because even though you can see the potential you know they won't be able to relize even a fraction of it and the game will forever remain in this undeveloped state except with mote menus to click on (assuming it won't die before the end of the year)t. 400 hours
>>741703359Most of marathoners are on pc lmao
>>741703457You don't have to hunt anybody the main thing is to loot shit and do contracts
>>741669320extraction shooters aren't fun for the vast majority of shooter players. shooter players just want to hop on, shoot some niggas, and hop offcombine that with the high relative stakes and you have to try as hard as possible, fighting both the environment AND other players (like me) who are just going to attack when you aren't readyyou also need a full squad of competent, mic'd up people, but usually you're stuck with a no-mic like me who is a liability at best because im not taking it very seriously at all>t. played DMZ in codhowever, with Marathon you're only going to be playing with extraction shooter players, so the ratio of shitter to sweat will be so low you have to be on your A game 100% of the time. my point is, most shooter players are casual players, and the fun of a pvp shooter is largely rooted in how well you perform against other players, be that in kills or objective scores."lol just don't die" being the main goal is shit because in order to have fun in shooters, death has to have minimal consequences towards your progression. games like siege have higher stakes but rounds are fast and the only consequences you have are a round loss - not a bunch of RNG loot and 30 minutes of running around grabbing said loot. fuck that shit.
>>741668857Destinykeks lost because of this shit
>>741703620It's not ugly though
>>741703171>half-baked solo experience>no endgame for solo players>game designed around premade trios>gay meta in cryo archive (bubbles and shotguns)>fucked up loot economy in season 2and then just some schizophrenic design choices like:>gay battle royale meta in general, the trio experience that is the intended way to play also feels least like an extraction shooter, which the game's been marketed as>supposedly hardcore FPS but also has massive bullet magnetism and fat bullets>supposedly the way to enjoy the game is to lose attachment to gear, but then again getting gear is the point of the game, ergo, to enjoy the game you need to not care about the game, then why not just skip the looting then and play a regular FPS?it's a shame because the sound design and athmosphere are probably the best I've ever encountered in a game, but i can't be bothered to continue with the game in its current state.If you're fresh to the game then do enjoy it, the things that bother me might not bother you
>>741703652That's fine I don't want to play another causal slop
>>741703712https://youtu.be/9ejzqm1KWjg?si=XsrcuICRu69k07WD
>>741703734Regular fps doesn't have loot mechanics>>741703652You don't need to exfil to complete contracts
Do you think Bungie would be in a better place today if they continued focusing on single-player games like Halo after leaving Microsoft?
>>741703734The atmosphere is why I even bought it lol I’ll see I guess
>>741703926>Regular fps doesn't have loot mechanicsno shit. if loot doesn't matter then why need loot mechanics?
>>741703926Except the ones that list exfil as necessary for completion. Also you still lose 30 minutes of your time spent looting drawers and trash cans when you die even if the colored bar went up a notch or two at the end.
>>741704074Probably not, whoever was responsible for halo 1 and 2 clearly isn't around anymore since they haven't been able to make a good game in close to two decades now.
>>741704135Because it's fun>>741704198Well shit get good i guess
>>741704303Halo 2 sucked dick literally just babbys first MP FPS
>>741704330But I don't want to play gay unbalanced tarkov, I only want to read lore about alien invasions and the nature of consciousness and reality.
>>741704074>Halo>SingleplayerHalo was only ever popular for the multiplayer.
>>741703649But the contracts are boring and the PvE enemies might as well be cardboard boxes, hence why there’s nothing to do but hunt other players
>>741668857Bullshit lieI checked and you are lying bitchYou speak in lies while the real graph speak in truth
>>741704074No I think they should have pivoted to trying to turn Destiny into a series of smaller highly replayable coop arcs instead like more detailed sandboxes of Skyrim. For example each arc of the story happens on its own little timeline and you change it when you disrupt or fail to control events but there’s obviously 1 canon path. Reaching different results gives you new cosmetics which can be modified with paid currency or traded freely across every chapter but each arc is its own container. If you buy a subscription each month you can roll an equipment and cosmetic gacha which can also be directly bought on rotation like in warframe. MSQ stretches across multiple maps at times but otherwise you experience each arc map like a month on a calendar where you lose time if you die, factions take different routes to their objectives, and certain content are enabled or disabled depending on what you spent time doing. Gamifying the paths of every chapter of the story and bungie could’ve restricted them to separate dependencies which means no need for deleting content. At most drawing a line between this batch and the latest.
oh my god, nobody here cares about that game stfu
>>741686954halo was carried by its narrative, microsoft-backed marketing, and its unique position of being "baby's first fps" for innumerable people. i think a lot of parents let kids play it because you're fighting aliensi'd say the MP isn't as generic as other FPSes, it's just slow and pretty fucking repetitive thanks to precision weapons. why bother with a sandbox when the BR dominates said sandbox, regulating power weapons to niches that are still easily dominated by a skilled BR/DMR userHalo's clusterfuck big team battle modes are probably the peak of the halo experience and that's only if it's AR starts
>>741703734git gud
>>741701523I'm tired of this BS. They literally stripped Destiny 2 of the majority of it's funding and developers and blatantly told everybody that there won't be any big expansions anymore with no intention of reverting that or making a new Destiny title. They put Destiny 2 in the coffin themselves to push Marathon so they fucking 1000000% meant for Marathon to supplant D2 as their main source of revenue. Everything from Bungie since The Final Shape has been "Marathon is the future". They really honestly believed that extraction shooters were the next battle royale and they were going to be in on the ground floor of this next explosion of FPS's.
>>741706198why? im not interested in battle royale
>>741669320Every single one of these replies says something different. It truly is a mystery because it objectively hasn’t failed yet, TORtanic and hyguardfags be damned.
>>74170700750% of the company is getting fired next month with numerous senior executives cashing out to get the fuck off the sinking ship. Such a success story.
>>741707343>50% of the company is getting firedyes the Destiny team
>>741702812You might like the art but objectively the reason why it’s failing is because people find it ugly.
>>741700601Pragmata is neither RPG nor does it have more players than Marathon
>>741707487Destiny has been a skeleton crew of less than 200 for about 3 yeas now. The majority of Bungie has been working on Marathon. The majority of devs being fired are Marathon devs. You fucking retarded faggot.
>>741704330>>741706198nah I just won't play your griefer trash and Sony won't get my money
>>741707983Lies
Biggest flop of the year
>>741712724There's still a chance E day and wolverine can catch it but it's unlikely. And losing millions a month makes it untouchable in the longer run. It would take GTA6 bombing hard enough to take out gta5 to do it.
>>741707983If this is truly the case, then there's 600 people working on marathon, and the budget numbers for the game are even more dire.
>>741707007It lost a quarter billion on launch, and is losing millions more every month. It lost more than the next two or three bombs this year combined. I don't see how you can objectively treat is as anything but a massive failure.It lost more than twice highugard's entire fucking budget at launch..
>>741704074Maybe. but the key problem is that they let their talent go, metood other talent, and got fat and bloated with insane lunatics that wasted tens of millions a year. You can have lunatics that meet budget, You can have wasteful fucks that make great blockbusters that make it all back. You cannot combine the two.
>>741711019It was reported multiple times that the majority of D2's dev team was moved over to Marathon after The Final Shape and then it was reported that even more were moved over after Renegades for crunch.
>>741703649>You don't have to hunt anybody the main thing is to loot shit and do contractsYou don't play the game, you fraud.
>>741703171It will be much more obvious when your team ios ready for cryo and you're out of protected kiddy pool matchmaking. I say team, because being a fill in is a complete fucking disaster waiting to happen in cryo, and you're not allowed to join solo anyways..
>>741669417You can stop pretending man. Even Sony themes said the games is performing well below expectations
>>741702173Well, fundamentally the game is unappealing to most of the possible audience, and the ones who do play it quit. You can bitch about they why, or try to protect the devs but that part's undisputable.
>>741713921hahahahahaha that's why their gutting half the company and all senior employees are preparing to cash out their stock options, right?
>>741701523If this is true, then management is even more fucking insane for canceling Destiny before having an exit plan.
>>741713595I'm not a shareholder though I just play it
>>741695174The attempt was to focus on high intensity, constant PVP with winner getting the losers gear. Every mechanic at launch was designed to minimize and deprioritize pve, and scavving around, and extracting away and forcing people into fights.>>741696115My cradle is level 70, and you're a fraud. See red. Leave Blue.
>>741713770>It was reported multiple times that the majority of D2's dev team was moved over to Marathon after The Final Shape and then it was reported that even more were moved over after Renegades for crunch.and that's why 400 developers are working on Marathon nowthe other 400 were working on teddy bear and destishit and they got fired
>>741675543>>741675437Obsidian really just needs to take out their art director, and replace a writer or two. Their systems are fine enough and they'er showing up on budget. Gay pride face fungus really isn't a winner.
>>741714358show your vault
>>741702240
>>741691801Nice job ignoring the other 95% of his post, retardNow go back to coping about Marathon and how it didn't just kill the studio
>>741714479Or what? You going to camp my extract with a d54 and two Misriahs? I don't think you actually play, and if you do, I think you're so shit that you're not even worth looting. Hell, you've said shit worth so little that you're not even worth really shitposting at.
>>741714273It doesn't take a shareholder to know a quarter billion dollar loss is a failure.
>>741669320I didn't like itthat's the only reasonI PERSONALLY made it flop
>>741714796Confirmed not playing the game lol
>>741714620TA is misreading the server refresh. Shit's even more fucked. And we saw a drop below 10k.
>>741668965
One thing you see with a corp shill like >>741714891 is that they don't even know enough of the game to react to basic concepts that anyone who even played the f2p would know. Bot level. I hope you're not Kurpa Hosk, because that's just embarrassing for them.
>>741703734>If you're fresh to the game then do enjoy it, the things that bother me might not bother youkek hell nonice try tho
reminder the last thread about marathon's failure had literal jeet shillingbungie isnt hiring the best
>>741714413You think Marathon didn't have a team working on it until TFS was finished? The entire D2 pvp team was moved to Marathon back before Beyond Light. That game had it's own sizable dev team that was then increased from D2's dev team. You fuckers are so goddamn disingenuous it's actually sickening.
>>7417146208-15k daily isn't "mid numbers". Those are absolute dogshit numbers.
>>741714868a failure for sony maybe
>>741715807lies again, before seaqson 1 200 developers were working on Marathon, with the remaining 600 being split in 3 more teams, Destiny and 2 projects, including Destiny Crucible stand alone game.Marathon won't get half the studio dedicated to it until after the announcement that no more expansions would be developed for Destiny 2>>741715175>still can't post the vault lol
>>741669320There's a distinct "slop" corporate "safe" and "cookiecutter" feel all recent bungie games have. Whenever i look at the screen and see that fucking gun and the environment, i instantly know who made the game, it's that distinct. I've somehow managed to never play any of the early halo games, nor any destiny games. I did try halo infinite multiplayer only to uninstall it after a few games because playing against sweats is something i don't wish even to my enemies. The original halo games had a "fresh" feel to them, and the environments, enemies and soldiers looked cool. The visuals had the design of something that was meant to be played by people. This marathon game has the visuals of something that's slop meant for animals, which was created by people who don't play video games. War is inherently a tribal business. That's why the original Halo games worked and these new ones don't. I don't know what Destiny's appeal is, but it's probably the sunk cost mmorpg appeal which has kept WoW players glued for 22 years to the same game, they're never escaping. Because was is inherently tribal, it has to do with tribal affiliation and identity, which is communicated perfectly with the spartan designs. They all look the same, more or less, they're all part of the group, which is coherent with the tribal aspect of war games, which fps games are.Turn to this maraton game, and you realize nothing about it communicates that you're a soldier, sure there's a gun in your face but it's not a military weapon, it's a waterpistol looking shitty thing, your team mates look like recycled plastic shit so you don't have a cool spartan identity, you're just some garbage that's searching for more recycled looking garbage, there's no epic call to duty of protecting or fighting for something greater than yourself.Overall, it looks like a corporate FIFA/F1/Basketball sport event with idiots in gimp suits killing eachother for scraps and garbage you don't care about.
>>741717134>There's a distinct [BUZZWORD] [BUZZWORD] [BUZZWORD] and [BUZZWORD]>cries about "sweats"I would tell you to go to Reddit, but this place was redditfied so long ago I guess you retarded faggots are the main userbase now
>>741717085>over 200 developers worked on this once>Now? It's a ghost town...
>>741717414the Marathon team was completely unaffected by the layoffs, this is the Destiny team and the other cancelled project they are booting out
>>741717374>how dare you call my game slop>i'll huff and i'll pufffand you'll shitpost too, very nice! Proud of you! :^)>but this place was redditfied so long agoProof being you getting angry over marathon and destiny getting called sloppa. So at least you're self aware.
>>741717487>can the people working on the game with actual playersIt's gonna be a bloodbath at bungie.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2026/06/23/marathon-is-running-out-of-casual-player-onboarding-cards-to-play/It's up
>>741717134>I've never played these games, here's my opinion on themalright.
>>741717724Itìs hilarious that you are posting Reach like it wasn't bastardized and it didn't ruin Halo multiplayer and Halo canon>>741717957too bad playing the Destiny free update only makes Destiny even more of a money sink and Destiny 2 almost killed Bungie, was never actually profitable and was sold at a loss for any player that wasn't paying every expansion full price and buying several DLCs
>>741718107The best casual onboarding cards would have been not hiring a lead artist who follows trannies, a dev who hates guns, and a writer who writes feminized shit.
Good god the single marathon shill is STILL going over 3 months later
>>741718350>a dev who hates gunswhat?
>>741717487lmfao
>>741718287Bungie being too expensive is what almost killed Bungie. Destiny 1 and 2 were successes and had long content tails. Flop games don't get ten years of expansions and content, and Destiny 2 did make a significant amount of money during its active lifetime. The problem is, having a few quarters of profitability can't overcome the rest of the others being unprofitable.Marathon, by comparison, has never made any kind of profit and has only ever operated in the red.>>741718537I know that was the case for the devs on Subnautica, but I don't think it was the case for Marathon.
>>741668857Keep me updated
>>741670695i love halo and love the new marathon's art style, although it's not perfect, in the sense that there could be a bit more stylistic variety in all the technology and architecture. it's definitely not what made me not buy it. i just don't feel a reason to keep playing after testing the free week, even though it's fun enough to play for free.
>>741718287>Itìs hilarious that you are posting Reach like it wasn't bastardizedIt still looks better than marathon. All halo games look the same to me, because i've never played any, and that's the point. If your game looks like a mosaic kitschy turd because you're afraid to have factions, identities and narrative arcs in the game, less people will be willing to play because you're not selling them any vicarious enjoyment of wartime triumph, you're just a hobo clown scavenging for garbage you don't care about, and the audience for that sort of game isn't that numerous as you may have noticed.>>741718134It's just an opinion on the visual presentation and thematic of the game. You only need a pair of eyes to form an opinion, not hours played.
>>741718960We've all seen it lmao your opinion is worthless
>>741718768>Bungie being too expensive is what almost killed Bungie. Destiny 1 and 2 were successes and had long content tails.Nope, Both Destiny games had way too big of a budget and that's why Activision, as publisher and not owner of Bungie, bailed out of their deal >Flop games don't get ten years of expansions and content, and Destiny 2 did make a significant amount of money during its active lifetime. Yes they do, Bungie tried to further monetize Destiny in all ways they could and failed at it. Them abandoning Destiny 2 overtime was inevitable and Marathon is a much more focused and much less expensive project that doesn't try to be a gigantic MMO with WOW tier seasonal expansions
>I don't play any games/v/ is fucking hilarious
>>741669320You got a million replies but most of them are by people who've never played an extraction shooter before and are talking out of their ass.It failed because there's no pve mode for bad players, and it is more pvp focused than any other game in its genre.It's as simple as that, it's a game that filters bad players and the average player doubly so for /v/ is awful at videogames and exists to be farmed by those who aren't.
>>741707983Seems unlikely because that means that either:a) 600 people are working on Marathon.b) 300 people at Bungie are doing absolutely nothing.Still, in either case, I'd welcome layoffs because for Marathon is currently and no other projects, you don't need that many people. Too many cooks in a kitchen and all.
Gaylofags lost in the end. Their last game ran on Unreal Engine, sold out to Sony in one last humiliation ritual. Xbox is next.
>>741718107Tassi is still a cheerleader as always, He claims onboarding fucking sucks. That's true. But Bungie is also not keeping the players it does get.
This marathon shill is hilarious>The game that has made literal billions in revenue has always been a flop>The game that couldn't even make $100m in revenue and is going further in the red every day is actually a success
>>741719437When will you learn that insulting potential customers is what makes them turn away?
>>741718537>>741718768>I know that was the case for the devs on Subnautica, but I don't think it was the case for Marathon.When they lost the last designer, the one who wanted something more casual friendly than the rape box we got, they also went on a political purge.Bungie's current team is about as anti gun and fuck the police, or UESC in this case as ubisoft's rainbow 6 team.The security officer needs to make a comback as there's bitches to slap..
>>741719054>Activision bailed because the budget was too bigActivision agreed on the budget with Bungie. Go read those contracts that got leaked as part of MS buying Acti-Blizz. Activision split from Bungie over a mix of creative differences and Bungie taking too long to make content, and then that content not hitting the excessively high targets that were set.>Bungie failed at monetizing Destiny 2No, they succeeded quite a lot, and the Eververse shop and the DLC shit made a few hundred million. Maybe a billion lifetime? The problem was what I said: Bungie cost too much to keep going.>Marathon is a much more focused and much less expensive productMarathon cost about $250-300m in dev salaries and outsourcing, plus $50-100m in marketing and other operational costs. They're also changing the fundamental game type (leaning into PVE) because nobody wanted the game's main design. That's not focus, it's panic. And it's also never, ever going to make a profit.
>>741719682When will you stop being shit at videogames?I don't care if marathon/bungie lives or dies, I'm being honest in that you can't have a niche hypercompetitive videogame like this in 2026 and expect it to do well.Arc raiders didn't get so popular because it's a good extraction shooter, it's gunplay, netcode, and overall balance is total dogshit. But you get the best guns in the game for free so death has no meaning and the aggression based matchmaking means 90% of the playerbase is playing pve matches.
>>741668857Still more players than your favorite multiplayer game
>>74167633510k jeetsgrim
>>741676335That's a new all-time peak low, isn't it? The Season 2/F2P buff has completely evaporated in just 3 weeks.
>>741718107>though the problem here is that Bungie has done almost everything possible to do that with the season 2 launch of MarathonThat's not true. There is no firing range. Not giving returning players free purple equipment and a way to get even more fast would also be great next season.
I keep typing marathon steamcharts in google every single dayI will not stop
>>741720775I always thought those doujins about the mindbreak shit was unrealistic, but apparently a company can rape someone so hard they develop a mental illness.
>>741720515Yeah, it's possible it might dip below 10k peak tonight, too, or at least be within spitting distance of it.
>>741717085Absolutely not. Marathon's had the bulk of Bungie's personnel for years now. What the fuck are you talking about. This is well known.
>>741721252NTA, but after the layoff when the studio went down to 800, it was 500 on Destiny, 300 on Marathon for a while, but then became 400 on both after Marathon got delayed and needed more hands on deck. And it's probably something weird like 350 on each with 100 HR and office people and IT and shit.
>>741701436Majority of destiny players are on consoles. Destiny probably peaks around 250 thousand concurrent players a day
If this gong show makes it to 2027 I'll be genuinely impressed.
>>741721049Yes, anyone who continues to play Marathon 2026 is mentally ill.
>>741719682casuals need not apply
>>741721605How long Marathon lives seems mostly decided by how much Sony wants to avoid the embarrassment of closing it. It wouldn't surprise me if Sony pulls the plug right as GTA6 comes out, because it would get drowned out entirely by GTA's release.>>741721671Yeah, and neither does profitability.
>>741721605Sony will keep Marathon alive for at least a year so that they don't have to deal with headlines like "8 months after release, Marathon shuts down".It'll probably enter maintenance mode in the near future, though.
>>741669320Think the starting point for this answer has to be the fact that during the Beta it couldnt pull numbers in. Therefore its nothing to do with the actual gameplay and more to do with the, marketing, artstyle or lastly genre choice. Its the exact same as Concord, that game didnt die because people played it and concluded it was a shit game, it was dead by the time the first beta opened on day 1.
>>741720143why do you care about how good some is at video games?
>>741720143tarkov is doing 10x better and thats about as niche as you can get. deadlock is 3rd person moba and is 10x harder to master than another run of the mill shooter(marathon) and that game is doing 10x better. not even officially released too btw.accept the fact that marathon flopped because its ASS.
>>741721976It was just the gameplay, anon. It's always the gameplay. The first free beta got just under 150k people and less than half came back the next day because they realized it's a hardcore PVP game for sweats.
I played during the Open week and actually enjoyed it. My issue is that the solo experience isnt that good and I'm not really arsed queueing with randoms every game at least to begin with. I do actually want to play it now but not enough to pay 24 euro for it. Its more the principle that the game is probably going F2P than that I dont want to spend the money.
>>741721814>pulls the plug right as GTA6 comes outThat makes sense and would be hilarious.Although I still have doubts about GTA6s release time.
>>741722178Yeah, it does feel like Rockstar desperately wants to launch this Xmas season but maybe the game just isn't there and they're conflicted about pulling a CDPR with rushing CP2077 out.But whenever Sony kills Marathon, that's gonna be just one day to the next. They don't have to announce anything ahead of time, just a quick 'The next patch is the last one, byeeee' and that's that. They can totally be reactive and wait for GTA6 to come out before doing anything.
>>741669320Put me in the screencap!
>>741696725They were until they let the trannies in. Big mistake
>>741696725Halo was carried by Microsoft's trillion dollar marketing budget. Like Gears of War.
>>741719054>another destiny was never profitable retardAll this retarded nonsense over the bullshit spewed by an ex-community manager. Jesus fucking Christ. If D2 wasn't making money how did Bungie buy themselves out from Activision, fund 7 additional expansions, fund 6 incubation projects including Marathon, grow their company from 700-ish to over 1,600, and buy a new office space to house them? Netease only gave them $100m; the rest of that money came from Destiny 2. Also, I fucking love how the discourse has changed from how healthy Marathon's numbers are and how it's going to make a bounce back etc. to just blaming Destiny as this invisible albatross all off a completely baseless statement from a ex low level employee who has already been called out by multiple people.
>>741723070if it was profitable why did it get cancelled?
>>741723221D2 not being profitable for the last 2 years =/= never being profitable. Moron.
>>741669320Nobody likes cutthroat PvP games.
>>741702959Tf I've never seen this dude laugh
>>741723351nobody on /v/(casuals) likes cutthroat PvP
>>741722009>why do you care about how good some is at video games?I just said why, dumbass.Almost every game coming out has a story difficulty because the lowest common denominator is important to the bottom line with these ballooned budgets; no one's booting up a videogame for 3 hours to get demolished every encounter and come out net negative.Even CoD dipped their toes into caving to the hardcore playerbase with the latest game and their demands contributed to the games sales and playercount being abysmal with the developers saying they're not taking that part of the community serious again.>>741722047Once again someone feels the need to talk out of their ass.>tarkov is doing 10x better and thats about as niche as you can getHas a pve mode. 50% of the playerbase is there.Even in the pvp raids the nature of spawns means you can arrive at objectives before other people and the size of the maps means you can stalk around avoiding hotspots and all but ensuring you never actually get into an engagement that isn't on your terms.Marathon is a game with small maps with concentrated loot points that blare mapwide alarms to ensure there's active pvp and if you don't participate you don't get anything. You also can't hide because of how loud characters are and all of the information tools in the game that will ping your position.Nice source btw.>deadlock is 3rd person moba and is 10x harder to master than another run of the mill shooter(marathon) and that game is doing 10x better.A free to play game of a completely different genre with real (and admittedly bad) MMR where you lose nothing but your time is doing better than a $40 hardcore FPS with the explicit intentions of being a doggie dog world.I suppose this comparison would be salient if I also had a traumatic brain injury.
>>741669320gameplay looks like a 2014 game
>>741723437You are a sweaty tryhard and nobody likes you. You are a vocal minority. Games fail because devs listen to you.
>>741723508Since when is listening to the vocal majority a good thing?If every developer took (you) retards seriously there'd be no games but madden and call of duty. Flavorless slop for the masses.
>>741723628The majority is silent. The majority doesn't like playing online.
>>741723508go back to raiders lol
>>741723628Flavorless slop is exactly what the galaxybrained MBAs want, because it can be intensely profitable.
>>741723687Here's my installed games. Bottom is a private WotLK server.
>>741723756wow a solved MMO
Marathonians would you rather >Quick instant death without humiliation like Concord Or>Slow painful death that drags all of bungie and your sanity down to critical levels
>>741723756>private WotLK serverMy brother.
>>741723669The majority is playing candy crush and their opinions aren't to be taken seriously.Multiplayer GAAS wouldn't be so focused on by companies if the money was in making singleplayer titles.>>741723707Yes, but it's also antithetical to making good games. The issue isn't catering to a hardcore playerbase; it's doing it with a budget that isn't 500 gorillion.
>>741723860>corporation is my lifewhy are you like this?
>>741723878If you're in the business of games, 'good' doesn't matter. All that matters is line goes up and stays up.But what the brainless suits fail to realize, and will never realize, is that the genre defining games are lightning in a bottle that come together from a mixture of unique circumstances and a lot of luck. Trend chasing just leads to a graveyard. But no, some retard in a suit sees a Forbes article about 'Fortnite made $1b last year' and suddenly his gaming division now has to make a dozen live service games with the hope that one turns into the next Fortnite. At least it means we'll always have flops to laugh at.
>>741724027Yeah but fortnite only got big by chasing PUBG trends
>>741724242PUBG started popularizing the genre (BRs), but Fortnite took it mainstream and, more than PUBG, found a way to monetize the shit out of it. I don't think there's been a serious competitor to Fortnite beyond occasional efforts from CoD that come and go, at least not for the mass market.
>>741723462just play on a higher difficulty?
>>741724598so it isn't about bucking trends but finding ways to monetize them got it
>>741703515There's like 20 different games dropping in August and September
>>741724780What I'm talking about is companies trying to chase trends and become the market leader in that trend. Almost all of them fail, like the pile of corpses of WoW or LoL killers.
>>741724917and none of them GTA6 so we good
>>741718960>You only need a pair of eyes to form an opinion, not hours playedironic.
>>741703734This sounds like the world's shittiest skinnerbox.
>>741718287>Destiny 2 almost killed BungieAnd Marathon is about to close the casket.
>>741723462What are you talking about? You don't have to PVP to get rewards, and there are cloaking mechanics to make it easy to hide.
>>741719437>vast majority of gamers are casual >make a game completely repellant to the casual audienceSo what's the next step of their master plan?
>>741725987Crashing the company with no survivors, apparently. More and more I believe the schizo theory of Jim Ryan and Herman Hulst being Manchurian Candidates programmed by Microsoft to destroy Sony from within.
Bros, they just introduced pvp on standarized (sponsored) kits... We're back
>>741726049How do you explain Microsoft's self-sabotage?It's infinitely more likely that we have saboteurs destabilizing civilization as a whole because it'd be easier to conquer.
>>741726315The boring reality is that both MS and Sony probably ended up this way through a combination of>bloated company>too many yes men and nobody is allowed to say 'boss, this is a retarded idea'>forced woke/dei hiring, leading to even worse decision making>biasing toward line go up short term thinking while not caring about the long term>good old fashioned incompetence from bad hiring/nepo hiringHuman stupidity is a far more likely explanation than deliberate malfeasance. Hanlon's Razor, anon.
>>741725931>What are you talking about? You don't have to PVP to get rewards, and there are cloaking mechanics to make it easy to hide.What are YOU talking about? Every quest is at compounds and almost every single one is contestable; and if you aren't fighting people you aren't able to loot containers before people take everything inside of them. Congratulations you showed up to an area with 4 minutes on the map left and collected a few boxes of ammo and some gunmetal they didn't have room for.>and there are cloaking mechanicsThat are loud and temporary.Assassins cloak can't hide him from TAD's/recon pulses, and signal jammer giving him the hentai filter means you can't hide either. You'd know this if you actually played the game though.>>741725987Shutting down, I imagine.
>>741669320because i didnt play it
>>741668857>reddit thread title>steam chart snipI hate this thread
one of the most visually offensive games ever made
>>741669320there are plenty of games like it already
>>741668857ITS DIPPINGSELL SELL SELL SELL
>>741676335STOP FUCKING SHORTING MARATHON YOU GREEDY FUCKS
>>741691497Ive been trying to figure out what the art style reminds me off and it just hit methe art style is a UV color grid for UV mapping
>>741727617lol
>>741668965tsmt
Marathon is getting a PvE mode in a month.
>>741727684Marathons art direction is a UV color gird for UV mappinglol
>>741727778You know it is going to chap Bungie's and all the blast having extraction PVP player's asses if the PvE mode doesn't just save the game, but becomes a far more popular game mode. It might even be worth it saving Bungie if that happens just for the lulz.
>>741669320It's a skinsuit tranny GAASlop.
destinegroes lost hard
>>741669320I'm surprised nobody is mentioning the fact that these lazy fucks got caught stealing shitloads of art off the internet for the game. The game had instant bad PR, though this came far before the launch.Sony paid 3.6 Billion for them btw, how is this not the absolute worst acquisition of all time?
>>741727617It's just the hi vis fashion trend that was popular around a decade ago. Things like those hideous fluorescent windbreakers, Suicide Squad, Spring Breakers, the printstream DE skin in counter-strike. It is supposed to evoke raves or something.
>>741728063Don't forget faggoty RGB lighting.
>>741727953I'll probably like both. Getting solo Cryo Archive would also be nice.
>>741728045Bungie execs scammed the fuck out of Sony. The actual number was $3.7b. $2.3b was for Bungie itself, $1.4b was for employee retention for their veterans. That $1.4b ran out in 2024, when layoffs first started
>>741728063it's a UV Gridthat's the art style>>741701478the square shoulder pad with the black plus sign/cross directly in the middle is a UV Grid texture
>>741728615something like this
>>741728615achully it's supposed to be haphazard 3d printing, so yeah you're on a right track with that UV grid
>>741670008It's called contractual obligations. You either retarded, a jeet or both.
>>741728063Synthetik had an identical aesthetic and similar robot hero/avatar character design only with a more basic palette.
>>741728045$3.6b aquisition$400m on Concord on Bungie's advice$300m for Marathon All they've gotten so far from Bungie is the last 4 expansions for Destiny 2's lifecycle and Marathon.
>>741726964>Every quest is at compounds and almost every single one is contestable; and if you aren't fighting people you aren't able to loot containers before people take everything inside of them.uhh no lmao did you even played it?
>>741728884They couldn't come up with an art style so they went with WIP look?textures and models intentionally look like placeholdersnobody wants to play because it looks like the game is still in development
>>741669052its just people idling, if they actually wanted to play destiny then sony wouldnt have cut support
>>741700610this is the only correct answer.
>>741729223>$4.3 BILLION down the drainAt what point does this count as criminal negligence.
>>741669320no one asked for it
>>741729469eh i like it. it takes place at the fringes of civilization, it's supposed to be rough
>>741729930like your country of origin, rajesh
>>741729930too bad about the gameplay. but i guess that didnt matter right......?
>>741718368nothing tickles /v/ more than a greedy American company self destructing
>>741668965Same
>>741730084what? it's classic bungie shootan mechanics, nobody is shit talking the gunplay
>>741730159yeah bro thats all that matters. no need to do market research or evolve the formula. its not like all that shit exists.
>>741730251so you mean make it casual to attract shitters like you, got it
>>741729930I thought that was a Splatoon screenshot before I clicked it
We have to keep playing marabros, a 14 year old MMO with 10% of its population on steam is going to beat us!!!
>>741730307>strawman>shit taste>misses the point>skin not whitethanks, got it
>>741729930>fringes of civilizationAt Nickelodeon studios?
>>741730374lmao cry more
>>741730435ok shitskin. thanks for that non argument.
>>741730426>color BAD
>>741729247>lol I'm only pretending to be retardedCome back when you've actually played with the big dogs, sissy.
Blasthavers hold the line! Diamond hands! DO NOT SELL and it'll moon by friday!
>>741730610lmao all those hours just to tell everyone you're bad
BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP
>>741730514Yeah, all the of neon colors are really garish and ugly
>>741730815nah
>>741668965based
>>741730723All those hours to tell everyone I'm good and actually played the game unlike you :)You stick to games more suited for your skill level, like tf2, gachashit, and world of warcraft so I understand your reluctance to play a game that doesn't stroke your ego so you just make shit up about a game you've never played, but I reiterate; you can't hide in this game unless you find some random corner of the map and you'll neither progress your quests and there will be nothing for you to scavenge if you do.Game will be free to play by years end, swing by and formulate a real opinion then!
>>741731608piece of shit game already swung into free+discount. not sure what you're coping about besides liking shit games.
>>741729930This is legitimately visually offensive.
>>741731740>actually the game had a free weekend and a reduction in price to half a years wages for meI'm sorry for you having the bad kind of autism and being brown, but I said you can formulate a real opinion if you actually played it instead of just making shit up.I, being a wealthy first worlder, already outlined the games biggest fault.It's a rape simulator and (you) don't need more of it in your life.
>>741732129its too bad you think you're white when you speak like a dog nigger that plays shit games. maybe you can still rope
>>741729930The worst looking game since Battleborn.
>>741732228Seethe harder, shitter.
>>741732296im laughing at your faggot playtime also. what a fucking queer. imagine needing 180 hours to realize how shit it is. little zoomtard couldn't sus it out.
>>741730357gvild bvlls run this showsit your marasissy ass down
