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>Called woke and communist
>It's a basic libcore game about racism being bad and helping people being good
>Doesn't even touch on gender
You guys really oversold the wokeness huh?
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>>741674170
"racism bad" is too much for /v/
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>>741674170
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>>741674329
that's because racism is good
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>>741674329
"racism bad" is woke
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>>741674439
honestly this might be one of the few games where the religion isn't demonized.
it shows that the church has genuine believers who take charge after the corrupt at the top are gone
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>>741674170
>Racism... is bad
>Equality... is good
>Monarchy... is also good
Holy fucking shit. What a deep and emotional story, 10/10 for sure
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>>741674352
I think that's a good take. The more you understand, the more you can tolerate. Doesn't mean you have to accept whatever it is you've been exposed to.
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>>741674170
I loved Metaphor
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So many Metaphor threads lately. Any particular reason why?
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>>741674170
Racism/tribalism/in group biases are basic survival instincts. The reason there's no anti racist, matriarchal or long term egalitarian societies throughout history, is because if any of those ideals begin to take hold, those societies are immediately conquered.

Also the combat in Metaphor is easily manipulated to the point of having no challenge.
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>>741674782
General seethe I guess. P6 getting announced. Sega's report came out and the game is now around 2.5 million copies sold.
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>>741674170
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>No romance
>Not taking advantage of voiced protag lines to make them more of a proper character
These are the only real flaws, at times Strohl was basically the mc
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>>741674170
It's just so obviously a cultural import from the west. I play Japanese games because I like Japanese sensibilities. I don't want a game from Japan about how horrible the lives of brown people are, literally, LITERALLY, every other piece of media readily available in the west is about it.
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>>741675004
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>>741675068
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>>741675018
>No romance
Are you a teenage girl?
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>>741675194
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>>741675018
>no romance
fuck off with that persona shit and the waifufaggotry, adding romance wouldn't improve the game at all
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>>741674170
>Game described as woke
>Let me tell you why it is woke
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>>741675018
>No Romance
>Eupha quite literally falls in love with the MC
???
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just post the in game model of these characters, and there'll be an end to the horror
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>>741675742
He's seething that we can't choose the person to romance
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>>741674170
Its one of the few games that acknowledges Race Science is real, and I appreciate it for that
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>>741674170
I think that final fantasy with Freija the rat was More "woke and communist" than refantazio
Anons have to take a chill pill
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>>741674329
Go to tel aviv or Beijing and say that, see where it gets you.
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>>741674439
Except the church isn't actually evil, just the man who ran it. People who were fanatics did a 180 and imminently tried to help your party and the civilians when they knew what was really happening.
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I can't fuck the fairy so it's a bad game. Simple as.
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>>741675450
>Persona invented romance in RPGs
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>>741675960
>FF9 was woke
In what way?
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List of actual criticisms Metaphor is guilty for (non-shitpost version):
>Hulkenberg's flat ass.
>No kiss scene with Gallica (she is the canon wife and sleeps with MC, no other girl can compete)
>A dungeon was clearly cut.
>No endgame to speak of.
Great game just makes me want more.
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>>741674352
>>741674704
There is nothing "good" about tolerance.
To tolerate something, you are enduring something unpleasant.
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>>741675068
when they read these books, the next line is usually the fairy calling the author a retard and offering the other side
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>>741676362
He knows.

He's saving the white race by image dumping the same 5 images every thread o algo.
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>>741676341
>There is nothing "good" about tolerance.
It keeps people from killing you specifically, do you not care about your own life? I'm tolerating you right now as we speak.
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>>741675018
the "romance" is the worst part of persona games, and I will die on that hill. All of the romance writing is unbearably cringe, I'm pretty the only reason people like it is because they actually ignore it and just project their own fantasies onto the characters.
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>>741676341
Every society is built on tolerance, people wouldn't be able to coexist otherwise. Problem is that the current "tolerance" is letting people into your country who want to kill you and rape and eat your women and children.
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>>741674170
>jap game about political themes
>the good guys are monarchists (but with a GOOD king!)
Every time. You can't breed the emperor worship out of them.
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>>741676341
>To tolerate something, you are enduring something unpleasant.
ESL please.
>The capacity for or the practice of recognizing and respecting the beliefs or practices of others.
If you view everyone's beliefs as unpleasant unless they're ones you share, you're not fit to exist in human society.
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>>741675194
>>741675412
>>741675068
Holy shit I just realized she's literally what the Skyrim for modern audiences video was parodying ....that's fucking sad how low Atlus has fallen
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>>741676494
Monarchy is better than democracy. The people almost literally voting for their destruction was spot on in the game.
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>>741676604
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>>741676643
I think it said more about the populace's lack of education and thoughtfulness on their situation. Mindlessly voting for whoever had the most charisma is stupid.
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Does it have less WORDSWORDSWORDS than P5R.
I ended up having to skip 90% of the dialogue because there was so much filled nonsense.
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>>741674170
I'm glad it flopped because it was extremely woke.
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>>741676712
It's not as bad as P5R but that's a low bar. It still has probably too much text.
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>>741676712
With the exception of the tutorial section, which is like ten fucking hours, yes.
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>>741674170
>wokeshit is rightfully called woke
>"i-it's n-not w-woke, goyim! filthy fucking goys, just buy the fucking wokeslop!"
nyet, rabbi
total kike death SOON
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My wife
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>>741674170
The 4chan Movement exists to fight wokeness in our video games. We on 4chan believe that video games are the last bastion of traditional family values, which means fighting against women and “people” with tans. Why did you even come here if you weren’t familiar with our movement?
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>>741676775
>>741677040
Heh. Just gotta post my screenshots 12 more times and then woke and Israel is defeated.
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persona fangays upset because you can't romance a character. Pathetic virgins.
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>>741676034
Chinese racism vanishes the moment I offer them a cigarette
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>>741676643
The best system isn't either of those extremes, it's a constitutional republic that allows for checks and balances yet still keeps voting in the hands of a sensible fraction of the population. Even that isn't perfect, though, given enough time and technological development causing destabilization and threatening self-extinction. Law or Chaos in absolute are the only long term options, a Neutral world will only create machine gods/demons for themselves given enough time.
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>>741676575
I mean...yeah kinda? Sigh.. They better not fuck up Kanji and Naoto in P4R
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>no romance

Tourist outing himself again
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>>741674329
>"I hate white people"
>every leftist that played this game
don't let the leftoids convince you that racism is bad if you're white, they just want to kill you because you don't have the updated rules to the game
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I didn't touch this because the females weren't as attractive to me as the Persona ones and I'm not allowed to romance them even if they were
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>>741676034
>go to absolute shitholes and say something normal
what is this point supposed to prove?
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>>741676604
I would throw my beer bottle at that bitch’s head
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>>741677346
Everyone who says "I hate white people" turns out to be jewish though. Must be still seething about rome.
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>>741676673
Imagine posting so many images to not disprove OP whatsoever.
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>>741674170
This game purports that some races behave the way they do because its in their nature. Its the farthest thing from woke.
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>>741674782
switch 2 port just got announced and the game is at 2.5 million sales as of today
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>>741675068
>she literally says this is retarded in the next line of dialogue
southeast asians sure suck at controlling the narrative despite it being the only thing anyone wants to give them money to do
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>>741680489
>as of today
I really mean as of the end of March because that's what the unit sales are from
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>>741680489
>the game is at 2.5 million sales as of today
Source?...let me guess...
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>>741680927
Atlus sales charts during Sega's investor call
https://www.rpgsite.net/news/20754-metaphor-refantazio-persona-5-p3r-smtv-yakuza-new-sales-numbers-2026
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Because nobody here actually played Metaphor, some of the children saw those pictures like >>741674352
And just endlessly spam them.
Like the entire plot is how the perfect diverse world doesn't exist and the book you read is complete horseshit, and even though you win, everyone agrees that the only reason its peaceful is because of all the damage the war caused, soon as everyone's back on their feet turmoil is bound to happen again.
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>>741675385
>>741675450
>>741676434
Why do americans start foaming at the mouth whenever they encounter straight sexuality or romance?
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>>741681132
The issue is that I have to campaign like a progressive libtard in the game's "election", because that is usually the right choice when prompted.

If we say anything that isn't "we gotta give our money to the poor and make diversity our strength!" then we are almost always wrong.
I know there is a literal "eat the rich" commie, but we don't go that far, we have to basically be like a center-left liberal cuck that turns our country into a welfare melting pot state or else we are evil.
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>>741681413
Yea cause you're trying to garner support, most other candidates are just race supremacists.
Hell your own party is the diversity brigade so it makes sense you're trying to court every side.
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>>741674170
The fact that the final boss is essentially a left-wing grifter is funny.
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>>741681664
He wanted to make everyone equal as a "superior race", while our group defends the "value of diversity".
It was actually similar to the Nazi ideals, so he was a far-right extremist, though the horse-shoe theory makes him almost identical to a far-left extremist.
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no one wants to hear a japanese person in 99% japanese japan talking about diversity and tolerance
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>government corrupt, racism abound
Something has to change!
>king murdered, people vote for new ruler
No not like that!
>people's favorite is killed, prince takes throne, royal bloodline restored
Much better!

Retarded game.
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I get what you mean but the fact it's full of libtard imagery turns me off the game nonetheless. Even if the basic concept of "hoomans are the real monsters" is cool.
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>>741681892
The number went up 9% from the last thread kek
Fuck off
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Will there be a Metaphor 2?
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>>741682216
The game itself is easily setup for a direct sequel, but who knows. Hashino stated he was already working on his next project back in December 2024. Atlus likely won't even give a hint until both P4R and P6 are done and then Team Maniax likely has to go first with a new SMT.
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"Racism bad" is a shit talking point when every other race except whites are allowed to be racist with impunity.
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>>741682216
I could see it happening after we get P6.
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>>741677409
Tel-Aviv is the capital of your empire, you should show more respect to your betters.
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>>741681664
Louis is a doomer accelerationist who doesnt believe in anything. He claims that he's doing it because that's what he believe is just, in reality he's doing it out of sheer revenge. If he actually believed all that he said, he wouldve been mega based
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I tried to like the game, but man there's no nuance in all the subjects the game tackles. It's all safe, lukewarm ''racism bad''
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>>741682047
>people's favorite is killed
He put everyone at gunpoint mr speedreader
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>>741674170
I just enjoy shitting on the shills
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>>741676341
so which brownoid turdworld shithole country are you from?
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>>741682929
There is though. Racism is le bad is the most surface level reading you can make out of the game
>>741681132
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>>741683028
Then it failed at providing thoughtful motivations in the first 10 hours of the game I tolerated. I wanted to know the tribes history, who conquered who, who settled where first, how did some of the beastpeople resist the growing imperialism etc because that's how racism inevitably boil over into the 1910s discriminations we see in the game.
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>>741674170
minor/ or maybe somewhat bigger spoiler ahead:

The part in the island about the lost civilization of Shinjuku/japan , does the freaking game EVER talk about any of that ever again?? i felt at that point that the game was pulling another SMT4 "twist" or something.. but then they leave the island and it's all about hurr durrr racism bad/ politics and all that garbage, like nothing ever happened.

Does the game actually go deep into what happened in the past with humans? just a yes or no is all i wanna hear. Im near the end of September and kinda disappointed we dont know about Humans and the distant past yet
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>>741674170
Racism is natural
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>>741683539
Everyone nuked each other. The ensuing nuclear fallout ended up mutating the survivors over the span of a millenia. The resulting races in the game are all products of mutation
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>>741683225
Most of that get lore dumped on you during the last 15 hours of the game. Not very good execution, but it /is/ there.
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>>741683925
Then I'm still justified in calling it bad. If the premise is about politics, then let me learn that shit early enough to keep me interested.
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>>741682802
You left wing grifters have even managed to make anti-semitism performative and boring.
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>>741684145
This. If a game's politics don't immediately agree with my own, I am justified in throwing a tantrum.
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>>741684145
The premise is about politics.
But despite trying to be "nuanced", it still wasn't centrist themed.
It absolutely leaned left.
So it is what it is, politics are divisive by nature and so it hurt the game's sales. If a right-wing person plays Metaphor, they will undoubly run into the narrative calling their policies being "wrong" as being the correct response.
In a video game that rewards us for saying the "right thing", this stings.
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>>741677346
You actually sound schizophrenic.
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>>741683814
Yeah sure, that's kinda logical, but does the GAME and characters actually talk about what happened in the past or not in more detail?
The whole part of that one dungeon is what happened in the past.. it would be retarded not to make this a bigger plot of the game instead of dicksucking Louis the entire game
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Could the game itself perhaps be discussed, for once? Maybe some gameplay?
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>>741684927
Gameplay is one of the few good parts about this game.
Basically gameplay is like Persona but adding Fusion transformations from Shadow hearts trilogy games (like Yuri), and theres a new mechanic where you can do duo and trio attacks with your other party members.

Now what DOES suck is you cant change your archetypes (like in persona) in the middle of combat, which can be very annoying. Oh and you can hit enemies on the map to either kill them or weaken them.
Overall a fun and rather complex combat system. The social links on the other hand are TRAAASH.
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>>741685376
The social link system is fine. I like how they did away with "dead" sessions when your intimacy isnt high enough for a rank up
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>>741685530
I wasnt talking about its "system" , i meant the ACTUAL social link events and dialogues and characters are mostly fucking horrible and just words words words shit..
im talking about the quality. P3 and 4's socials links were much better and more fun to read through.
I did like Jonah's at least, when you discover her actual .. appearance.
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>>741684145
>>741684405
The premise is your bogstandard JRPG with Fantasy Races. "Racism is le bad" has been a running theme of various JRPGs from your Tales of to your Vanillaware titles, but it doesnt delve any deeper than that. If you wanted actual political discourse with an entire timelines of events and successions you're looking at the wrong game. FFT offers that even if the 2nd half shits itself with church bad and supernatural causes
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>>741685656
I liked Junah, Eupha, Basilio and that one con artist. I also liked Caterina's. The rest couldve been better
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>>741685823
Yeah those 4 are quite good actually.
Also Catherina SHOULD have been an actual party member.. instead of freakin Basilio. Basilio just feels kinda forced and half assed towards the end. Catherina was there from the very start, and a better character.
Shame on you Fatlus
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>>741686202
They needed to keep an even gender ratio.
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>>741674170
Not being an unapologetically egotistical, solipsistic, sadistic, sociopathic malignant narcissist is woke.
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>>741674170
>game has no romance
>romancebaiting

>>741674439
I find it funny how buckbroken japs got by jesuits so they have a pavlovian church=bad response
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>>741685376
>New mechanic
>Invented in Chrono Trigger
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>>741674170
how about the game is shit because it's just fucking shit
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>>741674170
Did they patch the thing/s/ they had translated incorrectly yet?
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>>741676707
That's literally modern "democracy" though which itself is a complete abominaton of what it's supposed to be. Even the ancients knew giving anyone and everyone voting rights would doom the nation.
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>>741687141
>That's literally modern "democracy" though
yeah Atlus games often comment on the current state of the world.
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>>741674170
Looking at the screenshots, it seems like the game may be interesting in Japanese, but has been thoroughly trannified in the "translation", therefore worthless. If I finally learn Japanese, I might give it a go in its original language, in the meantime, total trannylator death.
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Why is this game so fucking ugly?? Absolutely no anti-aliasing to be seen.
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>>741688103
Playing the demo? It's really fucking ugly for some ungodly reason. The game itself is way better.
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>>741674170
>>741674329
>Called woke and communist
>It's a basic libcore game about racism being bad
It takes a country 30 years to recover from communism, reliably so by simply respecting propoerty again, and you can recover the past.
It takes a race 10k years to recover from bad race-mixing, if it ever does, and the change is irreversible.
They are not the same.
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>>741677409
America or whatever other mutted country you hail from is also a shithole.
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>>741674170
i didn't mind the politics of Metaphor. for me it's the samey gameplay, the grind, and the shakespearian diarrhea localization.
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>>741674170
Reminder that mathaphors en translation is absolute dogshit and they're so bad at translating that they completely reversed the context in a lot of scenes.
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>muh racemixing
You're never going to propagate so why does it matter to you?
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>ITT:
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>>741674170
No I just don't like it when a game lacks any subtlety and treats me like a toddler who can't understand simple concepts such as "Racism.......le bad", and at the same time is too pussy to give any solution or any actual statement beyond let's all sing kumbaya
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>>741676643
That's not very LOGH of you.
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>>741676604
God this game art direction is so damn ugly looking the UE 0.5 models, environments and lighting don't help either
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>King dies
>King makes it so there's a democratic vote after he dies
>MC is actually the prince and rightfully takes the throne
Status Quo? Le good.
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Racism is the only sane and logical stance to hold. Expecting every one to be perfect atomic individuals is insane and retarded. Like likes like, and the more like minded people get together the more like they become.

It is never invalid to be racist.
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How did idealism die? Aren't we in the greatest period in human history?
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>>741674352
but then...
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>>741685376
nigger you are smoking crack, the gameplay is absolute dogshit
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>>741674329
>"racism bad" is too much for /v/
This guy still living in 1994.
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>>741677546
i see niggers and other various nonwhites do it all the fucking time
TOTAL NONWHITE DEATH NOW
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>>741674170
Is this game worth grabbing or should I still hold for that magical directors cut edition?
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I don't care the women were so fucking hot in this game and the classes were fun
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>>741676643
Let me present: Metaphor If He Real

>Virgo Island sees an influx of Roussainte and Clemar
>Mustari are unhappy but the new arrivals have money so landowners are happy to sell
>With the backing of those who benefit financially they rise in society owning businesses and getting into politics
>They and their wealthy supporters preach tolerance and unity
>However more are arriving by they day
>Soon they begin encouraging lower class Paripus to move to Virgo island as cheap labour
>The Mustari who now have to live among those Paripus are enraged, but the upper tiers of their society are still making bank and do not have to deal with the consequences
>Calls for tolerance and unity increase
>Suddenly, Sanctifex Forden becomes the new democratically elected leader of Virgo island on the back of infinite gig economy Paripus votes because they were given voting rights for some reason

Sanctifex Forden announces that he will create a better society where all creeds and colours can live together in harmony (On Virgo Island) (under Sanctism) and bans visible displays of Dragon God worship as they may offend the 'New Et Rians'. Dragon God murals are torn down as a symbol of Mustari colonialism and replaced with statues of dogmen. Classical Mustari teachings are phased out of schools and replaced with the new religion of tolerating violent animals. Those who complain are arrested for tweeting
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>>741674491
>>741674439
>>741674170
My beautiful, choco Goddess weapons merchant wife.
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>>741680927
>>741681034
Actually btfo he didn't even bother responding.
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>>741691363
in this metaphor the English have 3 eyes
don't worry about it
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>>741686808
What things?
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>>741676341
What are you a 5 year old? Does mild discomfort make you so upset you'll cry and throw things? Life is a constant state of mild discomfort broken up by small moments of reprieve and you expect people to take your bullshit specifically? Actually fuck off.
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>>741674170
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>>741691589
Why are Resident evil fans like this?
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>>741674170
>NIGGERS GOOD
>COMMIES GOOD
>It is obviously tranny dogshit like all translus games
Where is the overselling?
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>>741674170
They are not that big and hot
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>>741682295
Whites are never gonna do shit about it.
Their leaders are willing to sacrifice them for leftist ideologies and occult stuff.
Even the ones seeing what's happening are not doing anything lol. They're just bystanders.
Whites are gonna be called racist as they are completely replaced and eventually fade away from history.
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>>741691754
Just mod her ass in.
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>>741674329
White on brown racism is good and justified tho.
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Need Brigitta wife.
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>>741684780
Henry Nowak. The jig is up, leftoid.
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>>741684927
The gameplay is fucking based and clearly the best 4 cunts in a row JRPG system that we've had in recent memory. Unfortunately you can't show JRPG gameplay in a webm because the gameplay is all in the decision making before and during fights, and that thought process isn't visible

>>741685376
>Now what DOES suck is you cant change your archetypes (like in persona) in the middle of combat
That was a shitty mechanic in Persona. The way it's designed gives you 3 characters who you have no control over whatsoever, just generic shit dummy characters, then 1 MC who simultaneous has All The Things and can use all of them at once with no commitment or downside. This is devastating to the RPG design because good RPG design is supposed to be about decisions, weighing tradeoffs against each other. Persona has fuck all decisions to make because you can't change your teammate builds and your MC build carries every relevant ability simultaneously

Metaphor makes the teambuilding much more interesting because you're not only trying to choose the best setups for each individual character but also trying to create a synergistic team where you have access to the right synthesis skills you want and can use Press Turn efficiently, and that changes from fight to fight. Press Turn lets you use more of your turn resources on certain characters so you can set up one guy to be the main spender for a particular fight and give them the teammates they need for the right synth abilities to actually build a team around a particular class and ability, but then on the next fight you might want a totally different setup. They also allow you to use Weak/Crit on bosses because it doesn't break the game. It is so much better than Persona which is just a pokemon breeding minmax game where you build a pokemon with the optimal set of generic damage boosting passives
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>>741674170
The politics aren't the main issue. The main issue is that the game's story and characters are fucking boring. Why do the Japanese only use their shitty anime character templates for everything? Not only does it make every single character interaction absolutely predictable, it's fucking lazy too.
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>>741675450
Your franchise is dead and lost to Persona
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>>741674352
I've became extremely racist after traveling a lot and moving to a "diverse" country. Before that I also believed in the whole hakuna matata racism makes no sense thing.
Now I hate the everliving fuck out of browns due to the repeatedly disgusting experiences I had with them and also basic observation.
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>>741675004
>you are obligated to help parasites
No.
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>>741691725
Commies BAD actually. Its a social oink storyline all on its own
>>741685823
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>>741692174
Ackshually, I like it because its straight laced. Its a breath of fresh air from modern JRPGs where you have all these crazy twists, complicated plots and a surprise 3rd act villain. Atlus is guilty of this, I find it actually novel you just go after one (1) guy throughout. Doesnt have to be too complicated.
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>>741692479
well it does have an antagonist twist it just doesn't last very long
The whole Opera / Altabury opening sequence is superb
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>>741674704
the more I learn about other cultures the more I hate them
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>>741691540
The one I know of was an instance of a character saying, what should have been translated as:
>To tell the truth, I was afraid
but it was instead translated as
>I was always afraid of telling the truth
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>>741674170
the moment i booted up this game i was immediately blasted with 5g agp feminization rays by bill gates' space lasers. fuck you woke scum
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>>741674671
>Monarchy... is also good
The fact that it actually turns around on thia shit with the horrible twist invalidates basically 99% of the set up the story made as well as its themes.
What the FUCK were they thinking?
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>>741674491
All those chocolate goddess and you can't colonize.
Removing romance was gay as fuck from atlus and surely impacted the sales.
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>>741674638
>>741674439


You can tell who actually played the game and Who didn't with these Posts...
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>>741675018
>>Not taking advantage of voiced protag lines to make them more of a proper character
I can't believe that that was a thing.
Genuinely the worst of both worlds. Neither is he a properly fleshed out character (which he really should have been, given the plot and story they were trying to tell), nor is he a proper blank slate self insert MC.
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>>741692808
so can i crush that new pussy of yours or no?
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>>741692860
That was a net positive for the game and the genre though. The less incels touch my media, the better.
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>>741692978
Man are you even a real person?
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>>741674638
>one of the few games where the religion isn't demonized
Have you played the game? The fucking entirety of the game is "reject tradition and religion" and "organized religion being the church or island cults are bad and should be removed".
It's the most reddit atheist game atlus has ever done.
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>>741692978
Nice drone\chatbot answer. Too bad this game was forgotten in a month and now atlus will do persona slop and remakes till the end of time.
But yeah you owned the chuds.
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>>741693012
Yes. Coomers aren't even human though.
>>741693052
Sadly.
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>>741674170
I do kind of wonder why this series follows the regular persona format of bond raising and all that but cut out all official romance aspects. You'd figure that it'd be a good enough thing to include what with all the potential waifus in the cast.
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>>741692894
EN MC voice actor was shit but the rest of the cast were pretty good in EN. Bas/Del are great
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>>741691282
If you like any newer persona game you'll probably like this.
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>>741693126
I played it in EN and the sheer general gulf in skill between the brits and the burgers was baffling.
Also Basilio was the only good character in the party proper. Literally based retard.
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>>741693153
Not him but what if I hate the persona series? More specifically the whole high school chore slop that takes too long and prevents you from playing the actual game.
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>>741693153
I don't know, I liked p3-5 (though nowadays not as much as I used to) and I found Metaphor mediocre overall and generally really ugly.
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>"Racism is.... le bad!"
>"Stereotypes are.... le bad!"
>Every single character acts exactly like the stereotype of their race
What did Atlus mean by this?
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>party kill Louis
>stroll goes on stage and says "we did it because reasons"
>nobody cares and they just keep being around the city
That was the most retarded plot point of the game
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Why are all the fantasy races so... boring? Elves, sure. And the bat guys are good, but the rest are so lame. The least kemonimi people possible, normal people plus tiny horns, etc.
So so boring.
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>>741676575
I can tell you didnt play the game.
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>>741693336
The narrative falls the fuck apart at the end once things actually start happening
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>>741693195
>the sheer general gulf in skill between the brits and the burgers was baffling
common bong VA win
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>>741677346
I dont hate white people.
I just hate white people who hate nonwhite people.
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>>741693429
Nonwhites also detest you by the way.
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>>741693336
They get away with that because Forden praises them and accepts it. Which makes sense because he personally benefits and was the current most popular candidate so he has a lot of sway. It also happens smack in the centre of Sanctism ground zero so Forden has all of the influence to control the reaction. What makes less sense is the reaction to what happens afterwards but arguably people are just too scared to challenge either of the top candidates
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>>741693459
You asked every nonwhite person in the world?
Impressive.
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>>741693336
The entire game was dog eat dog legitimate. What was that difficult to understand?
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>>741693126
I hated his gay lisp.
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>>741693217
Well its obviously not high school + is much more action focused but you've absolutely still got chore shit to do so maybe its not for you.
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>>741674170
don't care, pozzed trannylation
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>>741675004
Help is only help if you agreed with helping someone.
Stealing your money by force is not "helping", it's theft.
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>>741675385
>>741675450
>>741676434
Look at this copium.
Do you fags really think that's why people don't play Atlus RPGs for that reason? If you present your new game as "Persona in the Middle Ages," and give them waifus, people already have some expectations about what the game will offer.
You can do your own thing, sure, but don't complain when the game flops (which it did).
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>>741681132
that's weird, i played that game all the way to the end and i seem to recall no even hand like that. in the end you defeated the evil villain and literally solved racism and went off on further adventures. it was presented every bit as fantastical as the make-believe it references.
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The "Utopia" book is a meta-joke because living in the present day the player obviously understands that their world is not a utopia
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>>741674329
Treating people who are massively different the same and demanding the exact same outcomes for them is very destructive.
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>>741675004
>>741692339
>>741693764
>"yeah bro, we should just be south africa and have militia / gang lead civilisations with no working police force or good medical infrastructure, only a unbased monobrow trannoid troglodyte would be against such a good idea"
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Retard here, dungeons are super long and I run out of MP.
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>>741694446
switch MC to mage and grind low levels for refill.
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>>741674170
fuck this game and fuck that ice dragon
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>>741694198
If you say
>Everybody is the same
>History doesn't matter
>All are equal and everything belongs to everyone

But you say this as an excuse to take the lands of another people and wear their identity as a skin suit then this should be treated as an act of aggression and resisted with violence. The squatter who wants to occupy your house doesn't believe in private property, the invader who wants your country doesn't believe in borders. "Don't fuel division and hatred" by objecting to the rape of your women. "Be tolerant and accepting" of us, as we undermine your society and seize political power. Those who fall for these serpents deserve what is coming to them, if you tolerate this then your children will be next
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>>741674170
Overselling "wokeness" is the name of the grift, son.
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>>741694446
They obviously wanted to create pressure to come back and do the dungeons over several days but nobody is willing to do that

You have a few options:
>Leave enemy-spawning-crystals alive to farm infinite trash with MC on mage to get mana on kill
>Have everyone inherit Plunder Magic from the Thief tree and use it constantly to get small mana back
>Cheese the above by starting a team battle on a weak enemy, Plunder Magic and then Escape and repeat
>Go into Wizard to get Shield Blessing then wear gear which buffs you at the start of combat, giving you passive mana regen
>Late game: Rush Alonzo rank8 for Trickster then then turn Junah into a mana battery character who uses Gift Mana to restock your team, give her Wizard mask for Shield Blessing and Plunder Magic and passive mana recovery gear then just keep Gifting
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>>741694446
You really dont need to finish a story dungeon in one go. Seperate it into two days.. same shit as persona games really.
By the time you reach the dungeon story boss, your MP will be almost dried out no matter what, unless you avoided most enemies.

And for those smaller quest dungeons (like the caves , towers, forests etc), just ignore most enemies, focus on the room boss , then you can go grind once the boss is defeated
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>>741688414
>can't criticize Xi
>also Xi is a capable leader
Wow
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>>741677249
That system fails as soon as the rest of the population realizes their votes don't matter, after which they force a retarded strongman into office as revenge.
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>>741695194
>That system fails as soon as the rest of the population realizes their votes don't matter
your votes don't matter in reality right now, what are you doing about it?
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>infiltrate the ship
>beat up 3 different officers and steal their card keys
>hope they don't tell anyone this happened or that their keys were stolen
>wait SEVERAL DAYS for the banquet, IN YOUR HONOR, to start
>as the guest of honor, sneak away from the banquet and get on the ship to use the keys and steal shit
this is the most retarded plan ever
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>>741674491
>>741674602
>>741676034
>>741677346
>>741688414
>>741691143
>>741691875
>>741694198
Ahh, look at the roaches coming out of the woodwork. We need more games about racism being bad just to piss you niggers off. Can’t wait to buy Metaphor 2: This time it’s about Women’s Rights.
Post hand in your barely coherent reply or I’ll just assume you’re indians from the ‘ol trollfarm.
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>>741695278
I just described what people do, which we have been able to observe happening in reality for the last 10 years.
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>>741674638
Most games do not demonize religion.
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>>741695305
Unless the salesnumbers pick up in the next few quarters or at the very least keep pace I doubt Metaphor 2 will ever get made. Any slowing down and Sega will bar them from it for sure.
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>>741677346
>Says racism bad
>Anon assumes that means that he hates white people
I don't understand this train of thought
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>>741695517
Yup, atlus is fucking dead and square enix won!
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>We are 1 tribe
>Monarchy bad
>Rich bad,
>Ends with racism being "eliminated"
This game is woke
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>>741695976
You are a mentally ill polturd. Nobody invited you and nobody wants you here.
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>>741693301
It's important to identify with positive results so that the cognitive dissonance with your misdeeds disincentivizes public investigation.
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>>741695597
Racist is the slur for white people in America.
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>>741696186
translate it weebs
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Why am i supposed to hate this game?
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>>741696953
it's aight
but it's a bit unpolished and the direction is meh
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>>741692891
For sure. These tards are missing a lot of context.
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>>741674170
Imagine being trapped between those two ladies as they pumped up and swelled to exploding
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>>741692307
too bad your brain's stuck in comparison mode and cherry picking, who shaped your ego? Clearly not yourself
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>>741694235
Niggers in south Africa will be alive long after civilized whites have died out.
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>>741674170
the amount of games that were ever relevant & go further left than social democracy can be counted with one hand
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>>741699563
yeah where are the games about marxism-leninism-stalinism and maoism-third-worldism, and the posadists, the naxalites and juche
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>>741696254
I dunno, some seem accurate, like that Chud guy
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>>741674170
Why do Altus think it's a good idea to keep making EXP systems where if you're doing well, you get even more EXP and then the game gets even easier and then you get even more EXP until there isn't any gameplay any more? It was retarded in Persona and it's retarded here, surely the obvious solution should be to make the bonuses only give more cash and archetype XP instead of making your shit even higher level?
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>>741674352
>>741674439
>>741675004
>>741675068
>>741675194
>>741675412
>>741676604
>>741676673
tranny game woke af lmao
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>>741674329
Modern times are proving racism good, because everyone else is racist against us.
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>>741674170
>ok its woke
>ok its about racism bad and communism good
>but it could be woker
Holy moving the goalpost
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>>741674439
HAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>741674439
White hair and dark skin is such a sexy contrast. I like her makeup too.
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>>741674170
>It's a basic libcore game about racism being bad
so its woke
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>>741695293
All their plans are retarded.
>let's handle Louis this obvious fake spear
>it's so fucking obvious no magic goes through it even Fidelio notices it
>Louis notices it but for some reason does nothing about it and doesn't get killed only because the MC missed his heart by a few inches
lol
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>Announce Fantasy game with cool concept art
>Drop trailer 10 fucking years later
>Looks completely different
>It's just persona if he diversity
>Characters look like modern day people wearing winter clothing and with modern fashion broken up with an occasional piece of "fantastical" clothing
>Game fucking bombs
Deserved
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>>741689781
Are we?
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>>741691581
>>741676507
>>741683014
>>741676409
Looks like you failed media literacy class and aren't actually tolerant.
The pure irony is that the side you yes you personally vote for wants more of these "brown ESLs". your side in particular heccing loves brown people after all.
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>>741674170
>WASCISM BAD YOU BIG MEANIE!
Who cares about calling it woke, if you're plot is on the same level as the mindset of a 3 year old, it's a shit plot regardless.
Only good thing about this game is the porn, you can either deal with it,
or you can cry like a little indian bitch that people discovered that racism is actually a good thing and a survival trait.
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Of course the game is going to be woke when your mc looks like this
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>>741674170
>jeet protagonist
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>>741674170
Is this game worth buying and playing just for the black girl?
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>>741674170
This game so mediocre, man.
I wish they stopped making garbage mute protagonist and make them take the lead and actually do something
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>>741674170
Leftoid commies really have to reach for what counts as woke these days because actually woke slop fails so hard it either leads to layoffs or nobody has ever heard of it and maybe 20 people play it.
Like kiseki for instance the calvard arc games are actually woke, it has direct references to trannies and "white supremacy" but they bombed so hard falcom had to remake trails in the sky to recoup the losses. The calvard arc is actually the wokest jrpgs in history because it directly talks about illegal immigrants le good, white supremacy bad and trannies goods.
Metaphor has none of that it doesn't even have nogs in it. There are no trannies and the most racist character Heismay stays racist even to the end and he's portrayed in good light
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>>741674170
>You guys really oversold the wokeness huh?
It leans more woke than it doesn't being a realist. It's woke content is just drip fed to you over 70+ hrs so you don't notice as much. In the end, it was their direct intention to be WOKE and the game offers no real solutions to political, social and racial problems other than DON'T THINK ABOUT IT BRO. Game itself is fine, I just wish it actually walked its talk.
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>>741703170
What do you mean you don't like the main character's role as a leader being replaced by another party member in every game? Are you retarded?
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>>741703342
What do you mean you dont like Sthrol and Gallica doing all the talking and back and forth for you because Atlus decided to make LE MUTE PROTAGONIST!?

Imagine this: imagine the game makes you mute and have 0 agency as a leader, but once will revives as the prince he talks, makes decisions and you no longer have dialogue options in the social links, you always choose the best one. Like, that would have been great and actually fitting. The prince finally has grown up using the adventure and the fantasy and now he no longers needs the player help. Brilliant.

BUT NO, the prince is the same exact character as ever, and cant lead for shit.
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>>741703170
You go around exploring your kingdom and don't actually fix any of the problems. You just kill the bad guy and hope it gets better. Killing the bad guy wont' stop people from being poor or racist.

>>741703342
For all that you do in this game about Politics and becoming a great King, you don't actually do anything political other than argue semantics with your rivals. You don't change how the people are governed, you don't change how taxes and jobs function, you don't change how racism can be fixed. There's nothing in this King Makers game about leadership and responsibility. Other than kill the bad guy. Dude is 100% correct that it's a mediocre 7/10 game.
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>>741675004
People who can't work can rely on family to help them.
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>>741703286
>Metaphor has none of that it doesn't even have nogs in it
bingo, nothing in metaphor 'feels' like it was made in California even if some of the dialogue feigns support for ideas that Californians pretend to care about. If a western studio made this game the Paripus would have ape skulls and thick lips and Eupha would be an African genderbender dindu. Instead you have anime puppy girls and racist Batman. Even when they attempt to court a woke audience the Japanese still manage to make an acceptable game because they aren't evil ugly people determined to fill the world with evil and ugliness
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I remember one line that Gallica says in the game when facing the villain alone with the prince/will, she says something like "you dont believe in something that's complicated and gradual" in relationship to species differences and racism in general, i think it was something like that
i actually really liked that because yes, it is something complicated to fix
Imagine if the prince was the one that said it, not fucking gallica that's pretty much the prince's mouth for some goddamn reason
I hate atlus so much
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>>741703672
And if they don't have family? Or their family lives far away?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_Hu0Hz55_I

51:00

>Have the chance to give the protagonist the anime speech hyping everything up
>the camera pans back
>SHTROL BUTTS IN TO SPEAK

FUCK OFF THIS GODDAMN STUPID ASS GAME HOLY SHIT I HATE HIM
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>>741674439
woke
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>>741674170
>>It's a basic libcore game about racism being bad and helping people being good
That's woke.
>>741674329
Well yeah, racism is good.
Every single group on earth is racist except for Europeans. You should put the interest of your group above every other group, it's normal and healthy.
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what was his tax policy
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>>741704119
rape poor people
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>>741704119
Nigga probably doesn't even know what taxes are
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>>741674352
>>741674439
>GUYS IT'S NOT WOKE CHUDS ARE LYING TO YOU
It's all so tiresome.
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>>741675068
fucking woke
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>>741703948
They beg or start living in the woods.
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>>741704019
He should've taken a strohl while the protagonist gets to make his speech.
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>>741704019
Why is anyone shocked when its been basically constant for persona games (which this is basically a copy of, just in a fantasy setting) to have a mostly silent protag who only says short blunt lines in-game and is generally spoken over by the other companions in cutscenes?
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>>741681332
read
>>741675450
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I want to feed my gluttonous sow-elf wife!
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>>741674439
God, i wanted to kiss her on the mouth so hard, bros.
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>>741674439
tired of all the fucking leftist drivel constantly rammed down your throat in this game
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Communism is based though.
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>>741695305
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>>741705323
>queen good
>men bad
woke
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>>741674170
YWNBAW
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My ninja Heismay.
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>>741704119
I can see why Indians like this game
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>>741705323
If your definition of based is retarded, then yes.
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>>741700325
Or they could just make it like smt where having a few extra levels doesn't really matter (outside of early game allowing you to fuse a specifically useful demon ala Uzume in nocturne) and you'll still get your shit pushed in if you don't know what you're doing.
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>>741674170
mogged hard by frenchies
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fairy feet
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>>741704119
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>>741696254
scrawny permavirgin hands typed this
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>>741705323
communism is gay and so are you, thanks for the rank 10
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To the people that played the game what kind of % discount to wait for before picking this up?
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>>741674352
>>741674439
>>741676673
>>741675004
>>741675194
>>741676604
was the entire game this on the nose or are these all early on preconceptions that 180 when reality hits the party's characters?
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>>741709315
The entire game is like that.
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>>741708829
33% is fine because its shorter than persona but its still like 60-70h long, i think it goes 50% on all the current platforms
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>>741674170
Metaphor unironically is the most neoliberal game I’ve ever played. It’s a game that would make you seeth if you’re either far right or left. There’s basically no way to stat max into any of the political extremes and all of the political opposition to Will and the party are just meme caricatures of ultra nationalists or retarded Marxists. It’s literally a game made for me.

BLUE MAGA BABY!
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GIWTWM
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>>741674170
What is Fatlus and his obsession with manlet protags?
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>>741676643
This nigga literally killed the king like a fucking faggot. He let Strohls parents and his entire village die for fucking theatrics.
>oh wow this median voter is retarded and can vote for their own destruction
Yeah it’s called MAGA
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>>741676341
>There is nothing "good" about tolerance.
Eastern societies were built on it.
They tolerate a lot of abuse for the public good.
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>>741680927
>He doesn't know
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA What a faggot.
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>>741710057
Japanese people are very short due to lack of calcium in their diet and rice removing calcium from their bodies
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>>741710057
The average jap is small enough to fit in your pocket
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>>741709605
>shorter than persona
and yet somehow includes twice as much gameplay
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>>741692105
God damn I pogged out during the first Luis fight. Fucking cinema.
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>>741709638
>no way to stat max into any of the political extremes
This guy bought a JRPG and thought he was picking up Disco Elysium who are we kidding you've never played it
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>>741674352
Calling this virtue "tolerance" was dumb. I even thought it was a translation mistake (I checked and it wasn't).
From the way this virtues is used in the story it's not really about tolerance, but more about helping those in need. It would be way more proper to call it "compassion".
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>>741704119
Unironically, he ends up being a Populist.
Doing whatever he can to please the population, he might end up bankrupting the Crown.
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>>741675742
It’s funny because you have at minimum 2 people who can marry the mc and 3 others who want to marry him but know they can’t at the end because he will be the king
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>>741711338
populism is easy in a world where the popular position is just "stop literally murdering everybody"
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>>741710495
Yes? That's the whole point of his character, and proof that democracy is retarded.
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>>741709638
>im a heckin moderate!!!
>look inside
>just wants a monarchy to kill every single person who disagrees with him politically (isnt a fag or jewish)
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>>741708829
I bought it at full price and enjoyed it a lot but guess a 25% would be fine
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>>741675742
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>>741674170
I would've liked it more if it was a tankie game about gulaging the upper class. As it stands the whole "the bad race are dindus and all their sins were actually commited by the good race, the church is lying to you" schtick has been done to death in Japanese media. I wonder why...
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The story in this game is really bad
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>>741712689
Sexoooooooooo.
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The moral of the story is that you should be tolerant of White and Asian cultures. There's nothing wrong with that.
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>>741675742
So what? Your average sterile shonenslop like warmpiss will have girls stumbling over each other to fuck the MC but they never will. This is one of those.
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>>741674170
Another leftoid flop
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>>741689026
>Based on 33 Critic Reviews
So you know it's shit
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>>741689781
No lil bro, that was decades ago. It's been downhill for a while now.
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>>741715842
I thought it was great but a little unambitious. That's kind of how it goes for celebratory titles like this. What I mean is the game borrows a lot of mechanics from and pays tribute to older Atlus games.
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>>741689781
Lol i would trade ww2 with what its happening today.
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>>741674439
>tfw Brigitta will never pay you to attend to her for the night.
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This is one of those games that is just impossible to discuss on /v/ because its clear 90% of the people who really like talking about it here haven't played it, they formed their entire opinion about the game around the same 10-ish screenshots that are dumped every thread. And every thread someone who has played the game explains the broader context of the screenshots and the overall themes of the game, but nobody cares, the thread dies, everyone forgets and the loop of shitposting begins again the next day, because the intent is not talking about the game, is just to circlejerk over not liking it
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>>741712289
"Demiurgic imagination" is such a good description
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How the fuck is this a male?
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>>741718390
he's just twinkalicious, anon. leave him alone.
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>>741718008
You just described all my favorite games.

Luckily, TWEWY and SoP threads are full of people that actually play the games.
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>>741718390
Show a pic of yourself.
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