who would win in a fight?
>>741678657Doom guyThread over
>>741678657Samus.
>>741678657who the fuck put isaac on there???>4 isaacjust a regular dude with a space suit and futuristic tools>3 master chiefsupersoldier with power armor>2 samusgenetic miracle with bullshitium suit powers>1 doomguya literal deitynot close
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>>741678657Doom Guy but none of them would kill the other as they all fight on the side of good.
>>741678657doom guy kills literal gods.
Doom slayer
>>741678885Him.
>>741678657Samus with her 15 health bars and room clearing nuke.
If she has all of her upgrades, how can any of them even come close to Samus?Breaks the sound barrier on a sprint, more missiles than the cold war powers combined, freezes enemies, screw attack is an enemy deleter on medium sized enemies, so many health tanks she's more durable than a 300 ton bomb shelter.
>>741680101Doomguy would tank a real nuke.
Chief wouldn't win in a fight but his dry wit and charm would get Samus on his side. Doomguy would just stare at them like an autistic freak then leave. Poor Isaac would basically need to be lead along, gibbering about "muh Moon Brothers" and "fuckin markers"
>>741680101>>741680106You forget, she's a woman. Once she gets a whiff of Doomguys phermones it's over, she'll be go zero zero suit Samus just for his BFG (BIG FUCKING GOOLIES) but sadly for her, Doomguy has only one love, Daisy the rabbit, so he'll never reciprocrate her lust and she'll die from sheer untreated horniness.
>>741680410She's a bird. She doesn't go by pheromones, and none of these guys can do the right mating call.
>>741680558Samus doesn't have a cloaca.
>>741680410Doomguy doesn't have enough pheromones. The Argent Energy constantly swirling around him burns his manly musk as fuel for his menacing aura. Samus would ler him leave and offer Chief and Isaac a ride to the nearest starport, civilized world, or space station.
>>741678657Samus because Spartans are pretty mid-grade by Metroid standards, Isaac is literally Just Some Guy, and Doomguy is specialised towards fucking up demons.
>the first and original video game badass in sci fi power armour is a woman with bird dna
Halo wins. Eh kills aleins and doesn't afraid of anything.
Whoever the player is controlling
>>741680158Doom guys arm can get ripped off my spooky boys in jetpacks.
>>741678657The Doom Slayer was much cooler before they came up with all that stupid primeval bullshit. But yeah, obviously he wins.
>>741678657That's up to the writer.
>>741681159He survived getting shot from a canon in orbit towards a planet
>>741678657Doom guy before 2016, not even a contest.
was doom guy always op or did they make him op after the r*dditified the series
>>741678657Doomslayer because his gay lore
>>741681463They made him op, some bullshit about his armor being made by demons and blessed by god or whatever
>>741681463Doomguy was OP mechanically because he moved really fucking fast and also had perfect accuracy or some shit.Doomslayer is OP because Hugo said so. Hes the son of the demiurge blessed by Demon God and or Regular God and or a robot copy of the consciousness of God or whatever, and all his gear is made by dwarfen angel aliens using the strongest diamond metal known to man in a blast furnace made of hell-lava which is 8000 times stronger than earth lava and a hundred other gay retarded lore points that make doomslayer seem like a complete fag
>>741678657Do you think samus's suit has a "stress relief" function like John chief's suit?
>>741678657Samus is the weakest and canonically lost the most fights. Her most recent "feat" was running away from Sylux like a coward and leaving all her friends to die protecting her as she escapes. What an absolute joke of a heroine.She pretty much jobs and has to run away in every game. In Dread she jobs to Raven Beak, then she has to hide from EMMIs like a little bitch. In Fusion I vaguely remember her jobbing to the Omega Metroid. She also runs away from SA-X the whole game. Weakling.In Super she loses two fights in a row: one against the Metroid at the end who rapes her, then to Mother Brain. Imagine having to be rescued in the final boss. So yeah, Samus has a long history of getting her ass kicked, running away? losing her power-ups, etc. But /v/ will insist she's the most awesome ever, because they're incel waifufags who think with their dick.
>>741678657>Isaac is a jobber, so much so he is famous for all the ways he gets killed, >Master Chef is a slightly better human on an old model Spartan armorIt would probably go down between Samus and doomguy not sure who would win honestly
>>741678657Master Chief gets let down by his limited arsenal. Issac doesn't even last a minute into the fight. It devolves into a slug match between Samus and MooM.
Master chief is the goat
>>741678657ISSAC, GET THE FUCK OUT OF THERE
doom guy with magic > samus with bullshit tech > halo with big guns > a space engineer
>>741680158Nah, extreme heat seems to be one of the few non-demon things that can do him in, if falling into lava in 2016 is any indication.
>>741682751>Samus walks straight through lava with Gravity Suit protection What now
>>741681392Weak as fuck lmao
>>741678657Doom marine.
>>741678880Issac can be pretty OP with his stasis module and plasma weapons. He's got no defense, though. In a 4-way, he'd die for sure. Doomguy with the BFG wins easily, because that's a screen wipe weapon, though.
>>741680410
>>741680765Holy fucking speed. Samus sisters, are we winning?
>>741678657None. Fuck this redditshit thread
>>741682728/thread
>>741678657Doomguy but Samus joins him as well to dismember that fucking faggot Master Chef and that other guy I don't recognize. They have sex on their corpses later
>>741678657foursome
>>741678657Samus > Doomguy > Chief > Isaac
>>741678657better question: which one gets eliminated first in a fight?
>>741684381fucking incel lol
>>741684571How is that a "better question" when it's obvious to anyone with more than 2 brain cells that Isaac would die first?
>>741678657Used to be Halo, but with all the new dumb lore DoomGuy is basically a DemiGod.
>>741684648At no point could chief ever beat samus
Would any of DoomGuy or Isaac's weapons even hurt Samus? Halo is probably the only one with tools that could actually injure her.
>>741684738retard
>>741684680he could beat her with the power of the cock
>>741678657doomslayer takes on all three at once
It's gott'a be Samus, right?>HaloSuper strong super soldier, but nothing that seems to indicate he's on the level she operates. He's stronger and faster than a normal human, but he's still working within normal human parameters.>DoomguyFights "Demons", but the absolute weakest demons you've ever seen that get blown apart by a shotgun blast. Turns out they're not even Demons they're just aliens. So he's just fighting an incredibly weak alien species.Dies because it gets too hot, probably also dies because it gets too cold. A few hits from any of those "Demons" and he's out for the count. Got ambushed by literal fodder and imprisoned for however long.>IsaacLiterally just a guy with some gadgets.Samus > Halo > Doomguy > Isaac imo
>>741678657who cares you nerds
>>741682190>Doomguy was OP mechanically because he moved really fucking fast and also had perfect accuracy or some shit.Anyone who took those calcs seriously was being ridiculous. How fast a videogame character moves in their game with pixel calculations extrapolated out to kilometers is just insane. DoomMarine was just a guy with a gun.
>>741678657Master Chief would win because I like him the best.Samus would lose because I hate women that act like men.
Samus takes no fall damage. Samus wins.
>>741683648>Doomguy with the BFG wins easily, because that's a screen wipe weapon, though.Doesn't instantly kill though, Doom 1 even shows you that on the harder enemies. Samus' suits have huge defense bonuses as she upgrades them, Shinespark means she can be invulnerable as she's doing the dashes, she at any moment can do the thing from Super where she just heals herself to full by consuming her ammunition, and someone of Doomguy's size would instantly die from a Screw Attack. That's not even speaking of doing something like using any of her beams which would likely kill him from a single shot (Particularly Wave/Phazer), and then if she goes Metroid mode you can't exactly kill her without ice.
>>741686216BFG is only strong because the setting its in is so unbelievably weak. He's just fighting regular Joe-shmo aliens without any special powers or defenses or anything. So, yeah, an undirected plasma blast shreds them.But that kind of tech is basement tier for Metroid weaponry, it's hard to imagine that leaving much of a dent on Samus, especially by Dread.
>>741686216Doomguy is stronger in melee and is too fast for Samus to hit. His weapons can also be hitscan, while hers can't. He'd could reflect her attacks with his shield, freeze her with a bomb, then shatter her with an attack from any weapon. EZ.
>>741680358doomguy isnt an auntist, he is just a bit shy, unenthusiastic about chatting and hyper focused on killing demons
>>741686419There's also the fact that John Halo and John Doomguy both use normal human weapons for like 95% of their kit. Getting hit by thorns designed to pierce armor just tickles her in Prime 1 for example so I can't imagine using modern day bullets would do anything to her since even Space Pirates in-universe using their gear only do like 20-30 damage to her.>>741686552>and is too fast for Samus to hitDid you somehow forget she can just Space Jump to him indefinitely with Screw Attack? It's not like he can parry that. She can also just roll over to him spamming Power Bombs that are functionally localized nukes she has on demand that don't affect her. You're also assuming he'll be able to land a bomb on her specifically in the first place when she's extremely mobile since Speed Booster is a default movement option for her.
>>741686419you are of your fucking mind if you think barons and knights, let alone cyber demons and those gladiators from Doom eternal, are weak
>>741686716>you are of your fucking mind if you think barons and knights, let alone cyber demons and those gladiators from Doom eternal, are weakThey literally die from a handful of shots from a standard, everyday human shotgun. They're not demons, they're just aliens and they're not particularly powerful aliens.Do you think a shotgun could even scratch Samus's armour? It tears Barons to shreds.
>>741680101>>741680106Samus is a ditzy blonde though, she always forgets all her equipment when she leaves for a mission.
>>741678657Why is doom guy here
>>741679539The "gods" in the doom universe are fucking bums. The demons are basedlets too.
>>741686775People on this thread fucking exposed for never ever having played a goddamn Metroid gameSamus clears this fight EZPZIt's generally on an entirely different power tier than the other 3 series
>>741679539>doom guy kills literal gods.*Aliens.
>>741680358They wouldn't fight for sure, if anything, they'd see how fucked the Dead Space universe is and just help Isaac clean it up.The flood is a more fucked up and powerful version of the moons (the moons are kind of what would happen if the flood wins), so like Isaac can resist the brain fuckery of the markers and moons, so could Chief.For the other two, I'm sure Samus has a random powerup that makes her immune to mind fuckery, and 2016 nu-doomguy probably has immunity over it from some 20 pages of lore some autist at bethesda made.
>>741679539Doom SLAYAH does that.Doom Guy runs fast af tho and slaughters thousands of demons by circle strafing.
>>741686640>>741686775The thing about doom guy is that he's not all technology based, bro is souped up from weird hell magic too. And he fights literally demons as big as skyscrapers
>>741678749Doom guy can't survive in lava i'm pretty sure
>>741681159>>741681392a slow ass zombie can kill nu doomguy with a slap, his power wank lore is all retarded
>>741682557because she's weak at the beggining of the game and a God at the end of them, probably more so than any of the other choices
>>741687246>And he fights literally demons as big as skyscrapersTypically only when he's given one off equipment, like a giant mech suit, to do so.The rest of the time he's just fighting a large alien that's shockingly weak to regular human bullets.
>>741687246Some of his weaponry is also hell based too, not all of it is sci fi human based tech. Like the ballista and rocket launcher are from hell in doom eternal iirc
>>741684381Ok, but what if your mom didn't feed you tendies?
>>741687389but she did feed me tendies
If you gave Chief Forerunner bullshit weapons, he could win.
>>741687367He fights one on his own in doom eternal though. Had to finish it off with the big glowly magic sword because otherwise it was just immortal.
>>741678657Stop shoving your dead green tin can with Samus, Xcuck, your brand is dead.
>>741683648>Doomguy with the BFG wins easily, because that's a screen wipe weaponClearly you haven't played the ending sequence of Metroid Dread. Metroid mode Samus would delete even Doomguy.
>>741687653>t. salt the post
>>741686216>>741686419This, Doom "demons" (aparently just aliens) are just naked creatures that just punch or claw, hardly anyone in Doom moves any fast outside of bosses.>BFGI don't remember how the BFG works in the 2016 games, but if the BFG works like in the classic, it just spreads damage in front of whatver enemies doomguy is watching, even if focused in one single enemy it won't kill demons that are meant to be more equal to doomguy.Samus arm cannon is essentially a compressed nuke launcher that'd cut through any flesh like butter, if we are to include the fact that Metroid enemies like space pirates actually use armor that includes shielding, you can see in most cutscenes how Samus realistically one shots space pirates with her standard beam.She'd most likely one shot doomguy.
>>741683648Samus has a weapon that literally breaks reality. Doom Guy has never done anything like that.
>>741678657Samus=>Doomguy>Master Chief>Isaac
>>741687753Halo is dead and on PlayStation now, it's over. Once your next gen Xbox is $2000, you Xcucks will finally shut your annoying stupid asses up for good.
>>741688398Why are you so angry?Let people enjoy things.
>>741686640If Samus tries to screw attack Doomguy, she's getting cut in half by the crucible.
>>741678657None of those dudes would survive the screw attack.
>>741678657isaac is literally just a normal 40 year old manwhy is he even there lmao
>>741688484Why do you think that's going to do anything to her in any serious way let alone be easy to land on her? Again, she has Speed Booster AND Boost Ball at her disposal, if she's in Metroid form anything that isn't literal concussive blasts (I.e. explosions) repeatedly slammed at her in quick succession does nothing to her and she actively absorbs it because that's how Metroids themselves work and they adapt to what they are being damaged with, and her entire kit is functionally able to let her shoot through walls, see through walls, and shoot concentrated flames through your body via Plasma + Spazer + Wave.I don't think you understand how much of a joke Doomguy would be in this instance. We also know if she's pissed or about to die she can just turn on Metroid form at will, fully heal, and suffer no consequences doing so, and if she wants she can just Boost Ball into Power Bomb over and over and over functionally nuking anywhere he can possibly stand.
Samus can see and shoot through walls, the other guys don't stand a chance
Full power samus is always a fucking galactic level super powered god so yeah, she got this.
>>741678657Doomguy & it's not even close.
>>741688484lol, nope. i-frames for days.
The obvious out of the way, Isaac is the weakest.Master Chief would be the next weakest in normal circumstances. However, he has a legitimate luck hack built into his DNA so he could possibly be the one that wins solely based on that.Samus is very overpowered but hard to place.Doom guy has immortality hacks.
>>741689193Crucible doesn't care. It's an autokill button.
>Initially surprised to see all the Samus wank>Remember that this is a website full of Jap cocksuckers Once you lower the bar enough you can never be disappointed
>>741689329anus marang btfo
>>741689407the character that is getting wanked the most is reddit guy btw
>>741688894The fact of the matter, IMO, is that if I were going to play as either character with their gameplay rules and all their upgrades, Doomguy comes out on top. Samus is just too slow, which gives the edge to Doomguy. At range, Doomguy wins with superior evasion (his speed speaks for itself) and weapony (BFG and all the other shit). In melee, Doomguy wins with superior melee weapons, a defensive shield, his raw strength and again his speed.
Doom wins unless it's Super Metroid Samus and she can do that desperation move thing that fully recharges her health
>>741689506>if I were going to play as either character with their gameplay rules and all their upgrades, Doomguy comes out on top. Samus is just too slow, which gives the edge to Doomguy.Buddy, she can just sit a mile away behind a wall with X-Ray or Thermal shooting at him then Boost Ball away if she sees him getting anywhere close. She has Diffusion Missiles that are a huge AoE freeze that couldn't possibly be blocked since it shoots multiple missiles. She has Power Bombs that are nukes that work through walls. She has beams that completely bypass armor as a whole and set you on fire.Doomguy never even sees her as he dies if you're actually being serious.
>>741678657Really, the only two worth discussing are Doomguy and Samus.
>>741689609>She just magically starts a mile away and behind a wall because I say so.You're stacking the deck here. Doomguy grenades from 2016 also bypass cover. She can't shoot her missiles through walls, and Doomguy can evade them anyway.
>>741678657Who wins the raped franchise competition?
current post dread samus is too OPbitch can now do Metroid energy sucking shit, and eats monsters like the flood and the thing for lunch her metroid AHHHHHHHH form has a fucking endless death beam that vaporizes everything
>>741689850Dread and Eternal were both good and fun and they're recent. Both franchises are fine.
>>741689861Yeah and she'll keep that ability for like, 5 minutes. In fact she loses the Metroid suit before the game even ends.
>>741689813>She can't shoot her missiles through wallsShe has several projectiles that go through walls.
>>741689927that metroid suit isn't even a tech upgrade or something she needs to be given, she just needs to get angry
I do want to see them take on the Brother Moons.
>>741689962But not missiles. And we're snot starting the fight with her behind a fucking wall 10 miles away.
>>741690002It's so ironic how the technology to destroy planets already exists in Dead Space and yet everyone treats the ending to 3 as a game over for humanity.
>>741689813If we assume they start on a flat field with no walls then what's stopping her from Ice Beaming him infinitely since she can spam it and him being stuck frozen as she plinks missiles at him in between the freezes? What's stopping her from Boost Balling Power Bombs that he would never realistically be able to dodge or block since it's literally a condensed mini nuke she's immune to? What's stopping her from absorbing 90% of anything he does in Metroid form? What's stopping her Diffusion Missiles from working when it's a huge AoE spread outward from the area she shot that instantly freezes anything considering that DOES hit through walls? What's to stop her shots from tracking Doomguy when even in the Primes the shots magnetize to enemies most of the time?Be real here, why do you think Doomguy can clear anything she has available to her? No iframes from either of them via Speed Boost or dodges, no instakill sword QTEs, just the actual kit. Nothing Doomguy has really poses a threat to her even in an initial encounter. 90% of his entire kit doesn't damage her, he basically has to rely on the rocket launcher, BFG, and Crucible. That's really all he has that can realistically do anything to her. Maybe grenades if she somehow gets hit by that of all things, and you have to keep in mind she has max Energy Tanks which can be as many as 20 (Fusion). Even the worst attacks from the hardest enemies she's ever fought only do like 60 damage to her.>>741689927>and she'll keep that ability for like, 5 minutesYou don't know how long she can keep it active. She seems to manually turn it off after the fight and isn't hampered by it any way while also turning it on just by being angry/near death. That also means Doomguy needs to be able to evade it consistently for that long.
>>741689983You and I both know she'll never do that again.>>741690008Her missiles aren't even close to her strongest weapons, is what I meant. I don't care where she starts, she wins. How does Doom guy respond to a Power Bomb? Screen nuke.
>>7416786571 doom guy2 mister chef3 metroid4 john dead spaceHowever, isaac definitely has a the most "underdog" factor, so i could see him clearing them all.
>>741689887Funny that both most recent ones really fumbled the ball with Prime 4 and The Dark Ages.At least TDA is getting a DLC soon.And i'm not gay but holy hell they made him a stud in that one
>>741690125>And i'm not gay but holy hell they made him a stud in that oneI agree with everything you said.
aren't you forgetting someone?
>>741690034Because everyone who says Planet Crackers crack planets without any setup hasn't read anything about how they work. You wouldn't be able to kill a Brethren Moon with a Planet Cracker. It doesn't have a laser, it literally requires you to go onto the planet you want to crack on foot, set up stations that have tethers the Planet Cracker connects to using the ones they have on their ship, take up to five years to do so withotu the threat of your entire population killing each other because of the Marker Signal let alone Necromorphs spawning while you do it, and then the Planet Cracker flies away so hard it "pops the cork" on the planet and rips a chunk out of it. There's no lasers, there's no munition that does it, it's literally just pulling hard on something already in place on the planet.https://deadspace.fandom.com/wiki/Log:Planetary_Mining_-_An_Investor%27s_Guide>Planet cracking is a lengthy process typically spanning from three to five years. Generally, the first year is spent prospecting and setting up the planetside colony. To minimize losses, these colonies are intentionally a light outlay in terms of infrastructure. The next eighteen months involve tectonic excavation, gravity tether maintenance, and related planetside activities.>The planet cracker arrives between the 2.5 and 3 year mark, depending on the progress of excavation. Once the ship is in orbit, preparation for tectonic chunk extraction begins. This takes approximately one week.Imagine doing this on the one from Tau Volantis and that was a weakened one waking up from being frozen. It was already spewing Necromorphs at Isaac and Carver like mad let alone intentionally throwing objects at them. They barely survived like 10-20 minutes of running around on it. Hell, imagine the Aegis VII part of Dead Space 1. Imagine having to spend the next three years at minimum setting up tethers on a planet with Necromorphs attacking you at that rate including Brutes. It would be impossible.
>Nudoom demons are weak little fags that die to conventional weapons >"Angels" and gods are actually just aliens that die to regular weapons>Doomslayer is overhyped and sucked off in lore but you don't get any of that "demigod" sense from actual gameplay >NuDoom fags think he's the strongest character in fiction and would solo WH40k full of demons and gods that actually live up to the name.I fucking hate nudoom lore.
>>741689983No, she doesn't "just need to get angry".I'm backing Samus in this fight because I believe she would win, but don't represent her dishonestly.She was able to enter that form because she absorbed the energy of an entire ship. Can she do it again? We don't really know how much she has to feed her Metroid DNA to achieve the Metroid Suit, but we have one canon instance where it took draining an entire battleship to do it.It isn't fair to say all she has to do is get angry.That said, if she DID achieve the form, she is without question the victor. Infinite Hyper Beam is just too ridiculously strong.
>>741678657Doomguy canonically dies but literally just comes back because he was too angry to die. Where do you think the meme even came from?
>>741689506Samus moves way faster than Doomguy in any of her games. Especially when you have shinesparks.
>>741690461>Doom>CanonLol lmaoThe Doom "canon" has changed every single game since 2. The entire cosmology of the setting has changed 3x now
>>741690413I think even without the form, if she did some training on how to best utilize her succ ability, she could do a lot with it both offensively and defensively.
Even with the wank doom guy can't win.In mp2 the varia suit can just hold a pocket universe sustaining amount of energy within itself and the annihilation beam can shatter and erase anything it hits.In MP3 the Dark Samus(the metroid prime) became fundamental to the existence of phazon cosmic horror capable of corrupting and taking over anything (plants, animals, machines, souls, lava etc...) after eating enough of it and samus just kills it and leaves getting rid of phazon across the universe forever. If doom guy shot Metroid suit Samus with the bfg she would literally just absorb it and there's nothing doom guy can do to escape her she can freeze things through walls.
>>741690621They already canonized his feats from the OG games, the about to be released DLC is also gonna flesh out his past on his original earth.He dies in after being ambushed, respawns in Hell and literally gets out.He died in The Dark Ages too and came back
Samus. She's a bit like Kirby in that she's constantly absorbing shit and becoming another half-something with every entry of the series. She'll bullshit whatever she needs to win.
>>741690240All of that duration is basically safety procedure stuff. There were remarks in the wii game (I think) which said that fucking up the gravity tethers can create a singularity. I'd like to see the moons survive a black hole eating them alive.
>>741690125He looks like Guts.
>>741690898>All of that duration is basically safety procedure stuff.They have to manually dig out the surrounding area to establish the tethers in the first place. It's not just safety procedures, it's setting it up so it can even properly rip up the chunk of the planet, and I doubt just having a chunk of flesh ripped out of the Moon would really do much outside of make it angry.
>>741690062>What's stopping herShield (both energy and physical) + speed + his own weapons such as ice bombs and BFG.>>741690067>How does Doom guy respond to a Power Bomb?By being so fast that he's not on her screen.
>>741687052I mean it's a given, just look at the mediocre sales of the series
>>741691030>Shield (both energy and physical)Why would that matter? It's not omnidirectional, it's in front of him. Anything that absorbs him or does AoE avoids what it can block. Even then she literally has beams that bypass energy like Wave Beam, Phazer, Plasma, and more.>+ his own weapons such as ice bombs and BFG.Okay, and how many times can he use those until there's nothing left to actually use? Because you have to melt through 20 Energy Tanks and those are your only options. She's been attacked by energy swords before and it's not exactly large damage, it's like 40.>speedDoesn't matter. Beams track, missiles track, Diffusion Missiles do a huge freeze, and she has charged special beams that track like the Wavebuster.>he's not on her screen.That's not how the Power Bombs work. Prime even shows you it's an enormous orb and almost instant barring the initial detonation.If Samus even lands a single Ice Beam shot there's nothing he can do at that point, and he has significantly less sustain in general since she can just outright ignore his armor as a whole as her beams can bypass it.
>>741678657Samus with the Metroid mutation from Dread.Otherwise, probably Doomguy, Samus in 2nd place.
>>741681392Doom Basedternal is not canon
>>741691232seconding
>>741691030As much as I hate Other M, the reason she had to wait for everyone to be off the station or dead to have access to the Power Bombs is that they can kill any organic in a large radius around her and through walls. This would have killed any of the GF men onboard without them even knowing it was happening as it could hit them on sections she's not in.
Isaac is just a guy in a suit and Master Chief is a slightly enhanced guy in a suit. Only Samus and Doomguy are any contest. Samus can by far take the most hits, we never really see how she performs against conventional weapons. Doomguy is the most inconsistent to judge.They all don't really lack in firepower. A high possibility is they shoot eachother and die in seconds and the best chance of survival has Samus>>741683648>screen wipe weaponretarded argument, that's like saying disinfectant spray is a perfect weapon because it kills a gorillion bacteria.
>>741691731>A high possibility is they shoot eachother and die in seconds and the best chance of survival has Samuseven if doomguy dies, he'll just come back.Samus dies, she's dead for good, we've never seen her come back from the dead
>>741691824>even if doomguy dies, he'll just come back.It's up for debate how often he can do that though, and wasn't the second time an extraneous circumstance?
>>741691002I just said they could skip all that and make a black hole form on the moon by intentionally doing things wrong, though.
>>741691904the point is he still does, no other character here has died and come back. And the first time he was still just a human, second time they gave him a shortcut.
>>741678754in a dick taking contest? sure
>>741692007That assumes they know how to though. Keep in mind they'd have to find someone from the almost eradicated galaxy that knows how to arrange a black hole on every individual Moon manually, they're all suicide missions, and it would have to be able to be done while they're going insane (Since even Isaac went insane just from a half-awakened Moon that was dying) and being attacked by Necromorphs. Assuming they can even land on the actual Moon of course.>>741692040Yeah, but for all we know those two times are the only times he can do them.
>>741692067i dunno, i've seen alot of gay porn of Isaac
>>741692116>Yeah, but for all we know those two times are the only times he can do them.why? the realm of the dead doesn't just magically disappear when he dies the third time. He respawn there, fights his way out, rinse and repeat.
>>741678657Based on defeated opponents its doomguy, not even close.
>>741692284>the realm of the dead doesn't just magically disappear when he dies the third time.It doesn't, but the question is how much can he do it. As it is the second time was with intercession. Plus, if he can just repeatedly come back then at that point you just put him in stasis as has been established exists in the Metroid universe which would be exceptionally easy to do with the Ice Beam freezing him.>>741692517Samus has destroyed entire planets and the entire Space Pirate race more or less.
Doomguy is overrated af, the dude gets knocked out by temples lmao
>>741692545>if he can just repeatedly come back then at that point you just put him in stasisThat's pretty much what the demons did to him from the start of Doom 2016, they can't kill him so they just smash an entire temple on top of him and then put him into the hibernation coffin until someone frees him.>which would be exceptionally easy to do with the Ice Beam freezing him.That's still only a temporary solution, you can't just keep freezing him forever. Eventually he'll break free from the ice or he dies and just come back again.
>>741678880>deityboy howdy I hate nudoom shit
>>741692706>That's still only a temporary solution, you can't just keep freezing him forever.You do it until you get him into a stasis pod and then he can't do anything after that. What's he going to do, punch his way out of reinforced futuristic metal and glass? Viewros had stasis pods that had Grievers still alive in it for hundreds of years.
>>741692760again that's my point, you CAN'T kill him. Put him in stasis and he'll always comes out of it, kill him and he comes back.But kill Samus? She's gone for good.
Funnily enough, Chief is the tallest among them and also physically strongest.
>>741692839Yeah, but the point is that in all respects Samus wins every encounter. Doomguy basically only wins because of immortality, not prowess or his kit. It's straight up just because he keeps coming back. Eventually he wins just due to attrition, not because he has better equipment, tactics, or anything that outperforms her.
>>741692901I mean considering this entire thread is the powerwanking between all of these characters with all of their abilities regardless of how bullshit it is that has been shown in the games, i think it still counts regardless.I do agree with Samus when it comes to her kit that she somewhat does surpass doomguy but only because every new game keeps putting more bullshit into her kit. But i think its respectable that Doomguy one ability that trumps all of it existed since his first game.>Eventually he wins just due to attritionPretty much, i always consider when it comes to a battle between Samus and Doomguy, its always been a battle of attrition. Samus always relies on her kit but those eventually will run out, Doomguy, get him naked and all he needs is his fists.
>>741692545I stand by my statement. Doomguy fought and beat tougher shit than anyone else.
>>741678657Samus and Doomguy would team up and kill demons even more efficiently. Samus's story of eradicating the Metroids would be enough to impress Doomguy into them teaming up and eradicating demons
>>741692116Dead Space 3's ending is surprisingly survivable if you presume good writing and smart characters. First things first, the necromorphs need markers to animate. So if humanity needs a safe zone to plan a defense, it has to destroy the markers in the system first. That could be a game in itself, but whatever. Also, if we can get a planet cracking ship, we already have all the people and brains we need to set up badly rigged gravity tethers. Necromorphs won't be a problem as long as we keep markers away from the ship, but the technology to block marker signals already exists. There was one on the moon and it couldn't do much until unitologists blew away its walls.
>>741692901Dude there's just no way Samus could tank a BFG shot or crucible swing. Doomguy would probably break her limbs if he got a hold of her, too.
>>741693351she's definitely not tanking a BFG 10000 shot
>>741678657I like the idea of them in a bar together somewhere better. Isaac and Samus complain about how fucking shitty their jobs can get with all the murderous monsters, Chief empathizes and Doomguy just stares autistically before they all team up to help Isaac out.
Assuming they've all got peak kit, probably Samus since just because she's disgustingly tanky and shits missiles and mulches anything closerange with spindash. At peak kit she's got 10+ stacks of shields to Chief's 1, it's just a metroidvania genre thing, she's designed to be disgustingly OP, while Doomguy's games are designed to be... fun games.I don't know what Isaac's doing there. Doesn't do much damage, even Contact Beam requires multiple shots on black necros, and is designed to die if anything gets too close. I guess stasis is a pain.Chief, eh. I'm not sure he's even tankier than Doomguy, Doomguy's mobs are just more aggressive.
>>741685932I agree with this completely.
>>741693242The thing is that Samus wins in any fight. Any scenario you can think of that's not stripped of the Power Suit she wins unless you just give her starting gear simply because of how broken her kit capabilities are. Doomguy can only really via technicality in that if he can keep coming back he wins due to literally outliving her lifespan.>>741693280>Doomguy fought and beat tougher shit than anyone else.Doomguy's enemies can all be killed with basic human weaponry you can buy off the shelf right now except for one single guy who needs a Macguffin to win. Some of Samus' enemies are literally immune to multiple forms of her weaponry and she still beats them.>>741693351>there's just no way Samus could tank a BFG shotGet real here, the BFG is just an energy shot which she tanks constantly. Space Pirates shoot her with stuff as strong as it constantly. They even design stuff to do exactly that. Do I need to point to the Pirate Captains which have explosive energy cannons that are significantly stronger than it? Not to mention if she's in Metroid mode she can literally just absorb it because Metroids absorb energy in general.>or crucible swingAre you joking right now? Space Pirates hit her with energy swords and slashes all the time. Space Pirates in MP1 literally have melee attacks specifically designed to harm her specifically and it does like 40ish damage to her. She has been slammed by Ridley full force repeatedly. You are vastly overselling how much he can do to her.
>>741693558>Are you joking right now? Space Pirates hit her with energy swords and slashes all the time.The Crucible isn't your typical energy sword, its powered by weird hell magic not sci fi energy bullshit.
>>741693316>the necromorphs need markers to animateThey don't. They just need the signal the Marker provides which the Moons send off naturally and across the cosmos. The Marker itself is there to send the signal to people who can be influenced by it and work for its gain to propagate Necromorphs from inside of an established source of biomass.>Also, if we can get a planet cracking ship, we already have all the people and brains we need to set up badly rigged gravity tethers.They take thousands if not tens of thousands of people to even pilot let alone do what you think it can do. Can you grasp how ridiculous this is in a scenario where everyone is either dead or already compromised by the Moons? What about them using Unitologists to infiltrate and head this plan off?How are you going to find thousands of skilled people who are resistant to the Marker signal when Dead Space 4 was going to have Ellie be a scavenger because of how there was basically no humanity left alive? Isaac himself was literally going to kill Carver during Awakened for not bringing them to Earth because he was going insane from a Moon that was in the process of dying and was already underpowered because it was frozen for millennia. There's five of these things active now farting around and not hampered by being dead or frozen.As it was they said they were going to have some way to do it but it would have just awakened a bigger bad anyway so it's a lose/lose situation even when they manage it.>>741693646It's still a physical attack. She can still tank it without issues. She's tanked huge mechs, skyscraper tall enemies, and creatures like Kraid. She's also dealt with literal magic like with Phantoon and had no issues.
>>741693558>The thing is that Samus wins in any fight. Any scenario you can think of that's not stripped of the Power Suit she wins unless you just give her starting gear simply because of how broken her kit capabilities are. Doomguy can only really via technicality in that if he can keep coming back he wins due to literally outliving her lifespan.So doomguy still wins? What are you not getting here?
>>741693856Doomguy wins by technicality (Being immortal). Not fighting prowess, not his kit, not anything he can actually do to Samus. Just because he can outlive her due to having access to the ability to fight out of Hell. If that's how you want to settle a fight that's pretty lame man.
>>741693778>It's still a physical attack.It's been shown to slice through everything, the only thing that stops it, is a shield made out of its own argent/hell energy that the Marauders use.Unless Samus, suit is made entirely out of Hell energy, she isn't tanking it
>>741693901>If that's how you want to settle a fight that's pretty lame man.You wanna know what's actually lame? Being dead.Get turkey punched bitch
>>741693905Alright, fair on that point, but then that simply means staying away from him which would be extremely easy to do because, again, her beams bypass basically everything, energy or physical so she can just stun him permanently.
She killed billions
It's a contest between Samus and Doomguy. Chief and Isaac are irrelevant here.
>>741693242>>741693280>>741693351>>741693431>>741693856Doomwankers will say this, but when you ask them why Doomguy lost to a temple, they'll make excuses.
>>741694124We already pointed it out, he only gets knocked out by it.If the win condition is absolute death then he didn't lose in that one.
Turns out Samus is the "Superman" of videogame discussion. Who knew, Mary Sue? >nuh nuh, You don't understand Superman can't be beat by anyone or anything! buh buh >What about the literal magic designed to defeat anything? >Well maybe... but Superman would just win anyway!!! *cries*
>>741691075for as much as /v/ brags about pirating everything, a shockingly large number haven't played very many games at all it seems.
>>741694008And how long does her giga beam lasts for?
>>741678657Doomslayer is OP, wouldn't be a fair fight
>>741694227not at all, you're just a retard asking if chuck norris could beat spiderman in a fist fight. a character doesn't become "superman" just because they exist in a completely different tier from a guy who mostly fights with actual normal human weapons.
>>741694253However long she's in Metroid mode which we don't know if it has a limit or not. I'm not even talking about that though, I'm talking about just using Wave + Ice and Speed Boosting behind walls then walking towards him perpetually shooting him with the Ice Beam to keep him permanently stunlocked and frozen. Add the Spazer to make it even easier to hit him.
>>741694227>>What about the literal magic designed to defeat anything?funny because most of the time in the comics, he does keep getting beat by magic.
>>741694202>he only gets knocked out by it.So he loses to buildings lmao>If the win condition is absolute death then he didn't lose in that one.He can die lol, Samus will just visit him in hell and end his existance permanetly.
>>741678880doomguy is a regular christian dude who loves killing demonshalo isn't just a supersoldier with power armor he also has the supernatural miracle power of dumb luck
>>741694497That's assuming dying in Hell doesn't just send him right back there.
>>741694534>That's assuming dying in Hell doesn't just send him right back there.It would probably end his soul permanently
>>741694323I didn't ask anything in this thread, lil gup. That was my first post. You seem to minimize Doomguys abilities while aggrandizing Samus'. I have no interest in arguing with anyone in this thread because you're clearly genuinely retarded and more than a little biased. I'm only here to make fun of you. The Superman situation absolutely applies, in fact there are literal parallels in the bs immune to everything* vs magic, and y'all are the shining examples with your Samus wank off sess', whether I'd agree with the conclusion Samus would win or not. Doomguy also fights with more than "actual normal human" weaps though. That's the part y'all can't let go even though it isn't true, at best you've said, "mostly". It's all you've got because Doomguy has become a reddit lore tier immortal.
>>741694497>>741694534We don't really know it works really, TDA shows him becoming zombie like but still has a corporeal body, but it shows most of the other dead ones there are in their soul form. Maybe Doomguy is willful or "angry" that he still has one or maybe he's actually in soul form the entire time and can still physically attack others but nothing can attack him in his soul form.
Doom guy/slayer is immortal but can be restrained or trapped with enough effort, samus would find a way to bury him under a mountain or something if they don't just team up. Other two world just die in the crossfire or team up as well.
>>741694712that was my first post in the thread too, you're still a massive clown for your retarded take.
Why is Isaac always included in this? He's just a dude in an armored spacesuit. There's literally nothing special about him, especially when you stack him against three actual supersoldiers.
>>741694464I know, magic is one of Superman's weaknesses. So it's hilariously relevant.
>>741693778>They don't.Yes they do. The marker signal is a source of power that lures organics into studying and replicating markers. The necromorphs tap the marker signal to animate. Without it, they decay into sludge. This happened to the Ishimura necros after DS1, where the local marker was destroyed. Surely the moons could replicate the signal, but the range is limited to whatever is close by. So if humans have a system with no markers, they can breathe.>They take thousands if not tens of thousands of people to even pilot let alone do what you think it can do. Issac could achieve loads of tasks on the Ishimura with just himself and like 2 other people. Imagine if they found a planet cracker with a full crew, just doing some random planet crack in a remote system. Stuff like unitologists and such are if anything a boon to writers, since they allow for story hurdles to be overcome.>Escape earth>Regroup>Find planet cracker and people to use it>Go on the offensiveThis premise is entirely possible to make a good story from. You could make a whole trilogy out of it.
>>741694124>>741694497That's like saying Samus is weak because a simple explosion can knock her out and make her lose all of her abilities.
>>741694234Sorry pal but Metroid isn't worth pirating/emulating. I played the one on the GBA years ago, finished it and never played another again.
>>741694765Ironic, lil gup
IDDQD
reminder that fraudmus got owned and oiled by space pirates in federation force.
>>741694806>The necromorphs tap the marker signal to animate.Yes, but again the Moons themselves are able to project the signal they just can't do it to the distances they need the Markers for. The Tau Volantis Moon was still spawning Necromorphs despite having no Markers on Tau Volantis while it was dying. For all intents and purposes the Markers aren't necessary to create Necromorphs as the Moons themselves can do it, it's more for taking over a planet far away and to signal them to arrive for Convergence.>So if humans have a system with no markers, they can breathe.Sure, but the issue is that Earth is now dead, the Sprawl is dead and that was basically Earth 2.0, and we already know there were resource wars or something so that's most humans dead right there. Outside of the known human enclaves (Basically Earth and The Sprawl) there's barely any in the world which an audiolog at the end of 3 states by saying everything else out there is "Dead space".>Issac could achieve loads of tasks on the Ishimura with just himself and like 2 other people. It was all to right a listless ship. They didn't pilot it anywhere or manage any of its actual systems outside of turning them on again or make them run properly, they just prevented it from crashing into Aegis VII. Attacking a Moon would mean actually somehow piloting it to it which means you need all those departments manned just to keep the thing running outside of the hospital side, and then when you get into its range most people are likely going to go insane unless you somehow figured out how to test if they're resistant to the signal or not.>Imagine if they found a planet cracker with a full crew, just doing some random planet crack in a remote system.Then you have the issue of the Ishimura happening the instant they get near a Moon.
>>741678657>john halosuper powered, genetically enhanced, autistically military trained since childhood, and realistically has an entire military battalion he could call upon for support>samussame as chief really, minus military backing>isaacjust an engineer. a tough motherfucker in a space suit, but likely wouldnt last long against previous two>doomguyeven ignoring nudoom, doomguy has always had supernatural plot armour in a way. i put my money on this guy, but i dunno if he would necessarily kill the other 3 unless it’s by accident or he thought they were demons or so. samus would have to fall back or would get injured because if you wanna go canonically, chief and doom guy would be able to run as fast as eachother, chief may have more raw strength in his suit but doomguy has tardrage.
>>741678657The biggest reason i'm unconvinced that Samus would win is because from playing her games, the enemies she fights are never all that dangerous or threatening. Like they're basically all aliens on way or another, things that still follows the rules of the tech they have or the organic ablities they possessIn Doom they're literally dimension hopping demons from Hell, like actual Hell, we actually see human souls being harvested by them. Which means we have supernatural elements that doesn't follow the physical rules of the universe. Like how do you in sci fi terms explain human souls.
i refuse to call nudoom guy “doomslayer” it just sounds like what a milquetoast redditfag “le epic metalhead” would come up with. it’s DOOM GUY.
>>741695362Phantoon itself is essentially a ghostly being so supernatural elements exist and Metroid Prime 4 established psychic powers exist (Though she lost them in the ending but they do exist).You also have to account for the fact Doomguy's enemies despite having these powers die to Jimmy Bob's shotgun from behind his gas station counter so they are significantly less of a threat with that established.
>>741690221he’d flirt like a douchebag with samus, bro up with chief and doomguy and awkwardly ignore isaac
>>741678657Pretty sure Samus no-diffs all of them even if they teamed up against her. Her suit and weapons are stupid advanced and make her damn near immortal against most weapons. Not sure if Isaac's stasis affects herm since stasis is literally never explained despite being kind of a wonder technology, but if it affects samus fully then she's cooked.
>>741695598honestly i didn't even remember about stasis, ok Isaac has a small chance, even if only against Chief
>>741678657I'll assume Master Chief is to be considered as Master Chief and not %HERO%:Isaac < Master Chief < Doomguy < SamusSamus basically works with the sci-fi equivalent of toon logic and we all know how stupid that shit can be.
>>741687251wouldn't need to
>>741695460Phantoon is still psychic based and psychic powers aren't really all that supernatural since they're psionic in natureEven then, that's one instance of the supernatural being in the universe, meanwhile the entire basis of Hell is that all of it is supernatural.Like if you explore the entire universe, you would never find hell since it sits in its own pocket dimension that the UAC was stupid enough to built a portal towards.>You also have to account for the fact Doomguy's enemies despite having these powers die to Jimmy Bob's shotgun from behind his gas station counter so they are significantly less of a threat with that established.the thing about Doom demons is that they're essentially also immortal, lorewise notes that when they die, they also just respawn in hell, since they have no soul and is purely made of out argent energy, they dissipates when they die, and reform back in hell.
>>741695834Problem is Isaac's only got about four casts of it maxed out in basically any game with each cast being 5 seconds long or thereabout. He could theoretically carry multiple minutes worth of Stasis packs (3 per stack x 20 inventory slots so 60 recoveries x 4 casts for 240 casts then 240 casts x 5 seconds for 1200 seconds of frozen time or 20 minutes straight as long as he reapplies it consistently) but then comes the problem of his actual guns since most of them are just shooting rivets or specific beams of energy with the Contact Beam being his only major damage dealer which might not work on someone like Samus.It could work on Chief because he just just Stasis then pops his helmet off and domes him, same with Doomguy since he just needs to hit the ground and the AoE stuns him then walks up to him. With Samus maybe you could do that? It depends if the Gravity Suit would reverse that since it theoretically undoes any sort of effect that would slow one down. Same deal with if he could theoretically Kinesis Samus since she's made of material Kinesis seems to work on. I also think only Samus can remove the helmet since it's bound to her person, I don't think Isaac would be able to willingly take it off her head.
TL;DR50/50 Between Samus or DoomguyChief takes 3rd place, Isaac takes 4th.
>>741695986>the thing about Doom demons is that they're essentially also immortalImmortal or not what Doomguy is going up against is still dying to considerable easier means than what Samus has to deal with as stuff she fights shrugs off extremely high powered beam shots and sometimes even sustained fire or outright nuclear bombs placed at their feet.
Doomslayer/Doomguy is basically Jesus and Superman as a space marine and by power scaling and killing feats, he clears all their verses and takes Samus as a wife. John Doom Guy beat up Lucifer(a multiverses destroyer) with his bare fucking hands. Samus is just a sci fi waifu Chan and the fastest here but lacks doomguys super human hulk like power Jon halo is good at conventional warfare battle but lacks the supernatural stuff doomguys, Issac is just there for the spectacle.
>>741691370I don't think the power bombs were the upgrade people had a problem with. The issue was that she wouldn't even use her heat shield against lava without asking Adam for permission. they could have used a throwaway line with her trying to impress him by not needing it, but they didn't even try to make it make sense. it was just stupid.
>>741695110There were markers all over the place on Tau Volantis and on the moon. We were launching them into the moon with kineses for the final boss of the pre-dlc game. And the moons don't need to be in-system to use the markers, so even if the brother moon in orbit was completely dead-dead, other moons could still use the markers to do shit. So in summary, find a system without markers.>an audiolog at the end of 3 states by saying everything else out there is "Dead space".That was from a scientist 200 years prior, and he was talking about not finding life outside of earth, rather than the colonies of humans (of which would have to be there for people to know there isn't other life). It should be noted that the big resource drain for humanity was earth itself, so if that's gone, other colonies could be self sufficient.>you have the issue of the Ishimura happening the instant they get near a Moon.Maybe from boarding parties, but otherwise, not really. Not if precautions (like dealing with dead people) are taken. The Ishimura wasn't infected by necromorphs for a quite a while as the colony below it succumbed. It only got infected by someone ramming a shuttle with an infector form into it. Marker signals don't work quickly. They take a long ass time to make people crazy, commit suicide and get reanimated. It should be long enough for a planet cracker to do something to a moon.
>>741696680It's not like the typical space pirate is all that powerful since your average federation grunt still fights them off with your standard issue energy weapons. And if you're talking about some of those really powerful, Doom also has your cast of ultra powerful and night immortal demons
>solo's bioengineered, weaponized, trained soldiers and aliens
>>741695986>the thing about Doom demons is that they're essentially also immortal, lorewise notes that when they die, they also just respawn in hell, since they have no soul and is purely made of out argent energy, they dissipates when they die, and reform back in hell.Fun fact, the ones nu doomguy kills does permenantly die since the praetor suit absorbs argent energy, that's why he heals whenever he glory kills
>>741697291>There were markers all over the place on Tau Volantis and on the moon.Yeah, but after the fight the implication is we threw them all at the Moon so none were left by the end. But fair enough.>and he was talking about not finding life outside of earth, rather than the colonies of humansTrue, I just used that example to mean that in general there's not much life outside of what they already know of so there's very little to work from, and what we do know of non-Earth or Sprawl habitations are mainly just on ships bouncing between planets. There was also that planet at the start of 3 but Elton John caused a Convergence event there from what I recall and I don't recall any mentions of any other major planets people have habituated.>It should be noted that the big resource drain for humanity was earth itselfI could have sworn humanity as a whole was running out of resources no matter where they were which is why planet cracking exists as a concept, not just Earth.>The Ishimura wasn't infected by necromorphs for a quite a while as the colony below it succumbed. It only got infected by someone ramming a shuttle with an infector form into it.The Marker itself was on Aegis VII and people on board the Ishimura were already noted to be losing their minds and starting to argue fairly quickly once it was brought on the ship. The Moon would realistically start influencing them once they got into its sphere of influence since it's not trying to start a Convergence event as they're not on a planet and there's no Marker on board. If I remember Extraction right once the Red Marker was uncovered Aegis VII already started having guys like the intro MC losing their minds and going insane.How do you realistically account for potentially 80% of your people mutinying you as you try to set up an extremely complicated tether situation on a Moon?
>>741678657Samus is a mutated alien that got raped genetics and makes her a vampire and other shitDoomguy got plot armor but at the same time dying is a common thing because multiverse shit is canon on it aka every time he dies is real and something normal. Just like he could job instantly in another reality he wins easily
>>741694718Lol, so if he's a zombie, just give him a lobotomy, boom he's dead.
>>741694839Nah, because Samus keeps trucking on after that lmao
>>741678657This fight would be better if it was just the vanilla Doom Guy and not the Doom Slayer. Also, Gordon Freeman, V from Cyberpunk, and Frank Horrigan should be here.
>>741678657>Doom GuyWhy would he fight defenders of humanity? He's got raw strength and retarded arsenal meant to kill demons>Master ChiefBred for combat, ultra lethal>SamusBounty hunter carried by her arsenal>Isaac ClarkNo combat prowess, he's an engineer
>>741697592HEV suit is just that good
>>741685932>he's still working within normal human parametersI wouldn't say that
>>741678657
>>741690837He didn't "Die and come back to life", he died and went to Hell and then got resurrected by literal magic.
>>741682728apparently it's not magic but le cosmic secrets
>>741685965anon you're on 4chan on the videogame board
>>741678657Tf is Isaac gonna do?
>>741689861can she absorb the weird demonic argent shit that doomguy has? it's some mix between magic and cosmic bullshit
Doom Guy has ripped and torn his way through the hoards of Hell.John Halo gets mogged by midgets Samus has endless issues with autistic space pirates who love tubes.Issac is in a Zombie game, in SPAAAAAAACE.
>>741682392No but she keeps me around to handle that.
>>741695598i don't think she can deal with hellish demonic stuff
>>741699457The ritual was nothing more than a beacon and to let him come back at a specific spot, a shortcut you could say. Otherwise its suggested that he would have found another way back even without the ritual.
>>741698817>>Samus>Bounty hunter carried by her arsenalI'm like 99% sure Samus is as much as a genetically engineered monstrosity as Master Chief.
>>741678754prime samus is sluggish as fuck. super metroid samus, sure.
>>741700209I don't think any Samus can deal with magical upgrades
>>741698817>Why would he fight defenders of humanity?Because the point of this is a deathmatch, a battle to the death. Maybe his earth would be destroyed if he doesn't fight, Make up some bullshit like that.
>>741697260That's the English script. In JP she's doing it out of spite at being forced to follow his orders on what to use where, he spends most of the zone begging her to turn it on.
>>741695598Maybe the other 2, but Doom Guy? Sure her tech MIGHT be more advanced but I don't think she is surviving a BFG to the tits. We "saw" what happens to Samus when an EMMI gets their claws on her. Do you think Doom Guy would not do even worse if he got his hands on her?
>>741695362>In Doom they're literally dimension hopping demons from Hell, like actual HellEditors note: It wasn't actually Hell and they weren't actual demons. Every single judeochristian theme or setting you may have thought Doom had was just a misunderstanding.
>>741689506>Samus is just too slow,lmao
>>741700152He couldn't have escaped without the ritual. You're basically arguing that Kratos or Goku are immortal with this kinda logic
might as well just be john doom vs john metroid>>741700209samus gets considerably faster in 2D games after super metroid. I actually prefer zero mission in part because of that.
>>741695362>In Doom they're literally dimension hopping demons from Hell, like actual Hell, we actually see human souls being harvested by them. Which means we have supernatural elements that doesn't follow the physical rules of the universe. Like how do you in sci fi terms explain human souls.What i find interesting is how the Hell in Doom is the only one and it connects to every other universe or dimension in some small way, basically if a human dies and his soul is transferred to Hell, and another one in another universe dies, they both get sent to the same Hell.Basically how the same Doomguy from his OG earth is now somehow in this new universe earth in Eternal.Hell is kind of its own plane/universe that basically consumes and absorbs other universes or planets into it, that is pretty much what happened to Argent D'nur, home planet of the Sentinels.
>>741678657Isaac dies to a banana peel on the floor
>>741700834He could, he was literally in Limbo and just a next step into the mortal plane, the area is basically just a foggy wasteland and all he needed was the right way to go. He could be lost for a bit sure but eventually he can make his way back to the mortal plane.Even so in the first game he did it without the ritual.
>>741699890In Space Pirate logs, they describe the energy that Metroids absorb from living beings as being something unidentifiable to any scientific instrument. The Metroid series is also filled with magic and cosmic bullshit, so in all likelihood, yeah, she could absorb it.
>>741678657The dumb lore from Doom 2016 onward made Doom Guy invincible gameplay excluded, so he winsDoom Guy > Samus > MC > Random Nobody
>>741700361oh, fantastic to know there's another example of localization being a complete cancer
>>741678657Master Chief with a CE magnum
>>741701214You should look into the retranslation patch released a few years back because Other M was butchered in the localization. It's still Other M but she's far more characterized compared to what she was in the official translation.
>>741700276Then he would need to channel his strength into hatred with purpose. A slayer helm in runescape is useless if you're not assigned a slayer task.
>>741701067>Even so in the first game he did it without the ritual.apparently how that works is that he did die, resurrected in Deimos for some reason but is in Hell or is in the process of being absorbed into Hell, fought his way through Hell(likely as a still dead zombie) and met then kill the Spider Mastermind, which THEN he was resurrected back to the land of the living.So in order to come back without a ritual, Doomguy basically has to go find a high ranking demon and kill it to be resurrected back alive.
>>741678657Samus would win in a 1v3
>>741679539with his god killing sword, without it he's helpless
>>741697256This. Argent energy is basically comicbook and anime power energy and Doomguy is made chock full of it.
>>741678657Going by feats of strength: Doom Guy.Samus in canon loses, so she's out even though she's the second most qualified having fought planets worth of enemies alone. If Halo went to the covenant worlds and fought them alone by himself and WON, he would be winner in this challenge. But he didn't, so he doesn't.
>>741702013On a drunk day she would even win against any of them.
>>741697673>humanity as a whole was running out of resourcesWell the projection was just that, but this projection includes feeding Earth and the solar system in general. The larger ships have their own nurseries and crop farms, so they could last a long time. Especially mining ships that can make their own spare parts. Like planet crackers, wink wink.>How do you realistically account for potentially 80% of your people mutinying you as you try to set up an extremely complicated tether situation on a Moon?I don't think it would be that high. Especially if everyone is educated on what the moons are and they know about the affects of the marker signal. The guys working around it on the Sprawl were dealing with it pretty well. It was the ignorant people in the public spaces who were going nuts. Remember that the marker signal doesn't actually affect everyone the same way. Many are unaffected, or only marginally so. It's people on the edges of the IQ bell curve who seem to be the most touched by it. There's the possibility that the people mounting the fight are the ones most resistant to the signal. Ultimately it's a writing problem that abled to be accounted for.Also my understanding of the outbreak on Luna was that the walls around the marker were containing the signal and turning it into energy. So the tech to make marker signal shielding materials technically exists.
>>741702013>>741702863Shed die by Doomguy punching her
>>741702863Leaving gameplay aside; Doom Guy has never lost a battle, never lost a fight, cannot be stopped and can only be "trapped". Samus while much the same, has encounters where she loses by canon story events, much like Master Chief. There fore, Doom Guy always wins because he has never known defeat.
Literally all of them are just fodder for a Space Marine.
>>741703142Are you retarded?Doom Guy obliterates demonic hosts on his ownSpace Marines turn into Daemon pawns from listening to a QT sing.
>>741702958>I don't think it would be that high. Especially if everyone is educated on what the moons are and they know about the affects of the marker signal.Isaac was basically immune to the Marker signal and he went insane in 3 and he knew what it was capable of.>The guys working around it on the Sprawl were dealing with it pretty well.Did you play Mobile? It had already seeped into the very foundations of the Sprawl pretty much the instant the Marker was offloaded off the Ishimura and people like Tyler were already undermining Tiedman and all that because of it. Many of the doctors working on the Marker project were also insane as shown by Severed as they were working on grabbing Lexine due to her Marker immunity. Sure, there were people who seemed and were fine like Tiedman, but this was also a case where they were doing the traditional Marker strategy of infiltration to start a Convergence so of course it wouldn't be as crazy initially. The same happened to Altman before he got killed since everyone was acting normal around him but in reality they were already compromised by the Marker and they had only uncovered it for I think two weeks up to that point?>There's the possibility that the people mounting the fight are the ones most resistant to the signal.Problem is that that would be an asspull that absolutely everyone is let alone everyone who can pilot a planet cracker into a suicide mission. If Isaac, someone who has extreme immunity to the Marker, goes insane because of a Moon then it stands to reason the rest of them do. Carver was also constantly having his mind attacked during the main story via the co-op areas and then later in Awakened he was also having problems like Isaac was he just managed to hold on more than Isaac did.
>>741702013In a fight right?Right?
>>741703037>Samus while much the same, has encounters where she loses by canon story events>doom guy doesn't lose fights (except by canon story events)Come on now
>>741678657Samus if she's got her 2D controls, Doomguy if not.t. likes all 4
>>741678657Better would be just MC v Samus
>>741702068ok but which of these 3 other opponents are gods?doomguy also is immortal. the entirety of a dimension (not the my little pony dimension, the LITERAL HELL dimension) failed to kill him.
>>741704430>>741702068even demons literally bred to kill him and him only failed. he just fucking killed them.giant immortal demons the size of a mountain failed. he just fucking killed them.the strongest magic failed to contain him, he just fucking walked away.a literal endless infinite army failed to stop him. he just fucking killed them all.armored demons? he just rips them in half with his bare hands.all without a god slaying weapon, just using normal weapons.he is just too fucking strong.
>>741690221I miss this guy. The last time I saw him he was on an airplane with a burger king hat.
>>741693558>Some of Samus' enemies are literally immune to multiple forms of her weaponryMaybe her weapons suck. And if you think that double barrel shotgun in Doom is a 12 gauge you're nuts. It's 'maybe' a 4bore.
>>741704991>Maybe her weapons suck.No, the Space Pirates directly create their own counters to her via the Science Team and some of these creatures have bodies so hard she either has to rip them off or attack specific parts to weaken them. She could also realistically just Lasso the shield out of Doomguy's hands if she wanted.
>>741705145>She could also realistically just Lasso the shield out of Doomguy's hands if she wanted.I'm sure he would just cry in response.
>>741678657Slayer>Samus>Chief>IsaacI don't know how Isaac has survived as long as he has, he's a glorified maintenance guy. Although I guess Samus is now canonically a Metroid, so I guess that means she can just drain the life out of anyone? I think that's how Metroids work, and why they're so dangerous? The Slayer is basically Greece-era Kratos with guns, and while Chief is exceptional compared to regular human, but he still wouldn't last.
>>741701387I definitely will be playing that. Thanks for letting me know it exists
>>741703142these fuckers get beaten by pretty much anything else the other factions have
>>741703142I hate 40K autists so much...
>>741701117not even chozo tech or whatever they're called?
>>741705145Did she fucking do any of that in Dread when the EMMI got a hold of her?
>>741705145>>741705239isnt the shield magnetic and enchanted or something?
Samus is the most powerful easily. Dead Space guy is the weakest as he's just a guy.
>>741705718She could parry EMMIs and later on destroy them outright so uh, yes?>>741705752The Lasso attaches to energy shields and rips them off in addition to metal panels and stuff so I doubt it would be a problem.
>>741678657Why is Isaac here? Is it because he's the only other "space" adjacent hero? Dude is literally just a normal human and survival horror protag as well, his entire game relies on him being weak but also strong enough just to survive the horrors of Dead Space.I think someone like Dante from DMC would be more appropriate here, we have to 2 protags basically fighting aliens forces and 2 protags fighting demonic hordes.Unless we have another space adjacent protag that also fight hell demons
>>741705718or when crow guy beat her ass twice lol>>741705770She doesn't have doomguy's wank or anything that can deal with demon and cosmic magic sadly
>>741705718Yes
>>741705816why not the opposite, why not say it's not a problem for the slayer to use his strength to keep the shield for example?
>>741703557>Isaac was basically immuneThe opposite, really. Issac wasn't immune at all. He was getting hallucinations an hour into Dead Space 1, and in Dead Space 2 he was arguably more acutely affected than most other characters. It's explained that because he was a smart little engineer, he could interpret the marker signal messages. It gave him instructions on how to make a new marker. To other people, those instructions are just "noise". They either tune it out, or go crazy.>Did you play MobileI didn't, but I know that the section of the Sprawl with the marker wasn't hit by the necros like the rest of the station, at least until Issac let them in. That speaks to the ability of those people to keep order amongst themselves, despite close proximity to a marker for an extended time and in the middle of an outbreak.>Problem is that that would be an asspull that absolutely everyone isIt wouldn't be a good story if everyone was, but luckily they don't have to be. We know that people can hold it together and accomplish things when they know the marker signal is fucking with them. Every Dead Space story also has characters who are unaffected by the signal, like Ellie.
One thing doom fans like to skirt around in these vs debates is that he used very normal ass guns in doom 1/2/64/2016.To kill these demons or fight endless hordes. Its really hard to wank him once you mention that all his biggest enemies were able to be killed by a 12 gauge shotgun. Almost all of master chiefs weaponry is just the same at a higher caliber and used against enemies who in lore are immune to what doomguy used.
>>741706228apparently his argent energy or something gets imbued into the weapon when he uses it
>>741705816She had to get a special weapon to do just that. Is there just a Anti-Doom Guy upgrade somewhere? Is Samus gonna do some prep time and go find this upgrade that she magically knows about? Did the Chozo know about Doom Guy and made a specific weapon to counter the murder machine?Samus is really powerful for a Sci Fi setting, but Doom Guy is Comic Book levels of bullshit. Samus has issues taking down a space pterodactyl humanoid. Doom guy kills things worse than that every other level.
>>741705994>why not say it's not a problem for the slayer to use his strength to keep the shield for example?Because robots and gigantic creatures designed to be able to do so can't even stop her. The Lasso is also seemingly not restricted by her strength since she rips stuff apart with it and that's clearly not by her strength alone.>>741705997>Issac wasn't immune at all.He wasn't immune per se but he was functionally immune compared to the rest of the people who dealt with it. At best you can say he's highly resistant, but he's also a very rare person to be able to do that at all since we saw how it affected people in Extraction. Lexine is the only actually 100% immune one to the signal which is why Unitologists try to kidnap her in Severed. Vandal was hallucinating all of Mobile, Carver was hallucinating all of 3 and only because of Isaac was he fine, Kendra was seeing her dead brother, and Ellie herself was hearing stuff if I remember right. Hammond in DS1R was also seeing the Asian guy's corpse wandering around.>but I know that the section of the Sprawl with the marker wasn't hit by the necros like the rest of the station, at least until Issac let them inVandal. You're confusing how it happened. Vandal opened up some doors to let the Necros into the rest of the Sprawl because Tyler convinced her it would stop their spread. They were initially contained to a smaller area. The people where the Marker were were already compromised for the most part.The Marker itself doesn't make it known people are compromised until it's full force because that's the entire way it works to start a Convergence event. You might think they're fine but as we saw in Mobile, Severed, and Ignition they absolutely were not.>but luckily they don't have to be. We know that people can hold it together and accomplish things when they know the marker signal is fucking with them.The difference here is that you're expecting enough people to be able to pilot these planet crackers.
>>741706641and he takes down giant demons what's your point?
>>741706228You could argue with that for his weaponry in the OG games, but the reboot ones i'm sure were literally tailor made to fight against demons, the UAC were already knee deep into Hell with their research and trying to get Argent energy long before Doomguy came into the picture. Even then not all of his weaponry is the conventional types or even human tech, pretty sure pic related is a Hell powered rocket launcher as well as his BFG and Argent powered Sword.
>>741706880the chaingun is meant to be used by mechs but because he's le doomslayer he just uses it normally and the ballista was made by the magical and super advanced sentinels as turret mounted defenses that he still just uses normally
>>741706228Yea bro.Normal ass guns were the only weapons Doom Guy used in the classic games. Just shotguns, pistols, and various machine guns.
>>741689850Halo and isn’t even close
>>741706997>and the ballista was made by the magical and super advanced sentinels as turret mounted defenses that he still just uses normallyIt actually is pretty funny seeing it in third person with how fuckhuge it is.First person doesn't do it justice
>>741706570>She had to get a special weapon to do just that.The point is that she has things in her arsenal that do ridiculous things and is able to take down these targets just fine. She also has Metroid mode as an option now if she wants to go into it.>Samus has issues taking down a space pterodactyl humanoid. Doom guy kills things worse than that every other level.So? Why are you focusing so much on what he kills when the fact of the matter is virtually everything he fights can be killed with stuff in our current reality right now? Barring extremely specific beings that need some enchanted Macguffin to kill them due to story reasons nothing he kills is some interesting or impressive feat when Jim Bob can fire in their random direction and kill them if they wanted. Sure, he has weapons specifically made to kill beings from Hell nowadays but even when he doesn't use those and just uses random things like chainsaws he tears through them.Samus also has access to the ability to literally freeze something human-sized solid just by shooting it with an uncharged Ice Beam so even if he somehow grabbed her she just shoots him once and he's frozen and he's not gonna know she can do that. He's literally a normal human being that can die from fire and other elements and you think he's somehow tanking an Ice Beam shot let alone a Wave + Plasma so it ignores his armor entirely when that's literally the equivalent of shooting him with a beam of lava? Plus, if she's grabbed why wouldn't she just Morph Ball at that point? The EMMI have claw hands and have indestructible armor so you can at least make that argument but what is he going to do? Hold a ball that can place a nuke in his hands?>>741706687Giant demons that are killed by shooting them with buckshot. You are vastly overstating how powerful he is by what he kills. Just because he can rip and tear doesn't somehow make him Goku.
>>741705704Well, I'm sure Chozo tech could identify what the energy was since the Chozo created the Metroids, but the point was that the Space Pirates could not identify it with their own technology. It was implied to be something mystical, which was something the Chozo heavily involved themselves with.
>>741707189yeah the guns are massive, only thing i hate about eternal is you don't feel like a big tank or juggernaut wielding big fuck off weapons, both the doomguy and the weapons feel lighter than they should be and not as punchy or as strong
>>741707215you do know the weapons were made by sentinels right? the magical hyper advanced fucks who enchant everything they make?also the fact that he lore wise defeated and killed the biggest titan while naked?
>>741707285i like the idea of them not being magical at all and just matching all the magic by advancingi mean they included a psychic magical new species in the latest game and they fucking suck
>>741707401and again, demons are still dying to basically nothing even when he's using basic ass weaponry he picks off of random Zombiemen or Shotgun Guys whereas Samus is tanking BFG-esque shots for basically no hit to her health constantly because her suit is just that broken. Hunters literally lets the bounty hunters do Charge Beam shots she tanks just fine, and they're not restricted to the BFG's huge ammo consumption to do so they can spam it. You also still haven't explained why she couldn't just Ice Beam him, or Plasma Beam him and have him instantly die or take severe damage because she can ignore any of his armor due to the Wave Beam. Or how shooting a Diffusion Missile at the ground next to him doesn't instantly freeze him solid. Or how he tanks a Power Bomb that would envelop the entire area around his magical shield.Samus has so ways to deal with him.
>>741707317yeah i guess that's what they were trying to do with TDA with doomguy being more of a tank but then the weapons don't feel as massive since they're all one handed cuz you gotta be holding a shield at all times.
>>741707215Even if we just look at the OG Doom Guy, not the Doom Slayer with all the magic with all the extra Power Armor,If he can tank Hellfire blasts from demons, go toe to toe with various cybernetically enhanced demons, tanks missiles with his face, do you really think he can't handle anything Samus can throw at him?
samus and it isnt close
>>741707481even if they suck, there have been multiple psychic magical species like that. The cosmic mysticism stuff is really common in Metroid games. The Chozo, Luminoth, and Alimbics have all shown up, and at least a few others have been mentioned. The Chozo even show up as ghosts in Prime 1
>>741707828i feel like the more i talk the more you pull shit out of your ass or try to demean his feats just to make her looks stronger when it's pretty obvious and explained why doom is so much more powerful, why are you so adamant about this?Like how the hell is she dealing with anything magical at all for example?
>>741708065damn artificial ghost are cool
>>741707828Oh? What game has Samus getting shot by a weapon that is basically an energy based nuke?Because the BFG kills everything on the screen.
Doomslayer dies after standing 20 seconds near a barrel of nuclear wasteSamus survived long enough on planet space cancer to do a whole multi-stage boss battle on ithow is this even a question
what if there was a game where this could be answered
>>741707828>Ice Beamwhat makes you think he's not strong enough to just break himself off from being frozen?>Plasma Beam He's already facetanking Hellfire which would be hotter and more destructive than even plasma>Wave Beamagain its still basic plasma or energy that he would just tank through>Diffusion Missile at the ground next to him doesn't instantly freeze him solidAgain he's strong enough to break through the freeze>Power Bombpower bombs aren't really all that destructive at least environmental wise and seems to be mostly based on heat dispersion, which doomguy is well used to in the heat of Hell.
>>741708781you're going with gameplay stuff now? so samus can die to a random alien plant?
>>741708014He tanks all that because he also has armor. As soon as the armor disappears he folds like paper to anything hitting him. He also dies extremely quickly to Barons of Hell throwing stuff at him or Spider Masterminds and Mancubi shooting rockets at him. Even ignoring that he dies pretty easily to fire, lava, and acid (Or was it radioactive waste?) and very quickly at that. For all we know the armor is enchanted since it's clearly not normal.>>741708146I don't deny he's more powerful strength-wise since he literally rips demons apart with his bare hands, what is disagree with is that you think he can somehow tank having a pure beam of lava shoot through his heart that Samus can spam, or he can just ignore his entire body being frozen with spammed Ice Beam shots, or he can just shrug off her going into Morph Ball and dropping countless nukes that would completely envelop him even if he was using the shield. That's completely ignoring that the Power Suit itself is basically attached to her body and has absurdly high defensive capabilities that let her shrug off functionally anything that hits her including extremely powerful energy blasts like it's nothing.The Lasso example is there because it lets her rip stuff that is significantly more sturdy or stronger than she can reasonably do with her bare hands so that could legitimately go either way unless Hell magic somehow prevents a grab which, fine, if you want to argue that whatever.>>741708485Omega Pirate and its variants? They literally have Mortars that shoot shots even larger than what the BFG does.Every single Hunter has charged beams that in-canon are stronger than a missile.Raven Beak has mechs with even stronger variants.
>>741678657Isaac is smart so he's just concede and leave immediately.
>>741708896anon he fights demons in hell, lava? really?
>>741708886Okay then give me the lore bit that makes Doomslayer immune to radioactivityGive me the lore bit right now because otherwise all we have to go on is the game where he in fact is weak to radioactivity
samus just sucks the power out of everyone with her metroid dna, assuming she didnt just nuke them with a super bomb or run through them with speedboost
>>741708861>He's already facetanking HellfireHe dies pretty fucking fast when being hit even by basic bitch imp balls and there's literally 0 reason to assume hellfire is hotter than plasma
>>741709128if we go lore wise it says he resists and absorbs fucking demonic argent energy which is described as being more powerful that any other form of energyif we go gameplay wise samus dies to a spikey alien plant lol
>>741683648>Issac can be pretty OP with his stasis module and plasma weapons. He's got no defense, though. In a 4-way, he'd die for sure. Everything Isaac does, Samus does 100x better.Every technology Isaac has, Samus has a quadrillion times better made by a Type-3 Civilization(Chozo)The only way this ends is a match between Samus and Doomguy
>>741709164can't suck demon energy, or maybe one can being a metroid but good luck not getting hurt
>>741678657Current doom guy is simply too fucking nimble for any of the three to keep up with him. Doom guy stomps.
>>741708861>what makes you think he's not strong enough to just break himself off from being frozen?What makes you think she can't just spam it infinitely since there's no downside to it to perpetually keep him locked down let alone shoot a missile to shatter him? How do you think he's getting out of her spamming shots and then doing something like kicking his leg and shattering it? We have humanoid enemies that can be frozen in basically every game that break out after a short period of time because of their strength and she can just instantly refreeze them anyway.>He's already facetanking Hellfire which would be hotter and more destructive than even plasmaExcept this plasma would be buffed by the Wave Beam that goes through all his armor directly through his body and Samus can spam it without needing to charge it. This isn't simply facetanking, this is hitting directly at the source. That also ignores Imps, Barons of Hell, and Lost Souls absolutely slamming him for damage if allowed to.>Again he's strong enough to break through the freezeand once again strong enough to resist her constantly freezing him how? The Diffusion Missile would simply be to freeze him if he starts with the shield so she can reposition or even disarm his shield.>power bombs aren't really all that destructive at least environmental wiseThey're massively destructive to organic beings, and Doomguy is functionally an above average human man. We literally see it kill even Omega Pirates in one hit.>>741708995He literally dies or takes extreme damage if he falls into it so yes, he can clearly be affected by it. Most enemies that use it also do pretty high damage if he actually gets hit directly by their shots.
>>741679539That doesn't mean anything. Gods can be weak or strong.
>>741678657MC's power fluctuates a lot. In Halo CE he dies in short jumps. In Halo 3 he can crash to earth and survive
>>741709253Give me the lore bit that makes him immune to radioactivity anonWe have plenty of lore blurbs making Samus resistant to physical attacks but sofar you've not given me anything even hinting at Doomslayer having resistance to radioactivity And if you really want to bring the weak enemies into it, Doom enemies die to regular weapons, Doom's demons are weak as fuck
>>741707894yeah that was a wastethey could have added so many cool medieval based weapons but no, needle gun and skullcrusher, though i like the skull crusher
>>741678657The answer is Samus, and I don't even like Metroid.This is not a serious debate.
>>741709393yeah for gameplay unless you want to tell me samus dies to the weak shit too in lore like that acid lol
Since doomfags love to bring up lore so muchHere's a bit of lore for you, a basic level rapid-fire weapon from Metroid has a higher energy output than the BFG
>>741709505dude lore bits say the weakest demons need fucking anti tank rounds to die and the titans are invincible to everything but sentinel weapons there are many lore bits describing how unstoppable doomguy is and how powerful argent energy is and how much it powers everything around it yet doesn't do anything to doomguy who absorbs it yet samus runs away from a robot puppet and loses her powers left and right
>>741709682that aint bfg level kek
>>741678657>Doomguy Slayer has big dick energy that solos outerversal beings and puts women like Samus and Chief in check.>Samus is a woman so she by nature loses to a man
Doom guy, because tendies are faggots.
Isaac doesnt realy belong, so what if we replace him with captain titusNow how do each of them rank?
>>741709557Samus doesn't have the strength or the godlike weapon ability to overcome Doomguy. Please don't be retarded.
>>741709890Still doom guy.
>one has magical enhancements on a cosmic level>others don't>there ARE works with gadgets advanced enough to rival magic or withstand it>none of the others are those kind of works, not even the colorful cartoony gamesee what I mean?
>>741708896Negro, i'm playing Zero Mission right now. This cunt gets fucked like a 5$ whore by everything. Just as hard as Doom Guy. She is still just fighting Aliens, Kraid might be fuck huge but is just an alien.Demons are a bigger threat.Animals > Humans > Zombies > Monsters(think along the lines of Werewolves and various mythological things) > Aliens > Demons > Deities (God/gods/Satan) > Eldritch beings.
>>741709128He shoots are radioactive barrels all day long and doesn’t die.
>>741709890it's just a slightly better and more experienced marine, those guys can be beaten with anti tank missals or really just exploiting their joints according to the dark eldar
>>741709619>yeah for gameplayHe's still taking damage from Hellfire, significant damage at that, and she's able to completely ignore any protection he has on top of that. The spiky plant example you have also does trivial damage to Samus by comparison.>>741709742>yet samus runs away from a robot puppet A robot puppet literally stated by Raven Beak to be created from nigh indestructible material that she ends up killing anyway.>>741710000>Demons are a bigger threat.Demons that die to 9mm rounds aren't exactly something that makes me think they're a big threat when she's shooting stuff with condensed energy and they're tanking it.
>>741709742you do realize that modern day earth anti-tank weapons are only impressive in the context of Doom right?for the Metroid universe that means imps get taken out by even the lowest level space pirate Doomslayer is unstoppable in the context of Doom, but that doesn't make him unstoppable in the context of other universes that operate at a much higher power level, that's the thing a lot of doomfags keep ignoring You put Samus in any of the Doom games and she clears them pretty easily (you could argue she needs the crucible to win, which is fair I suppose but so does Doomslayer himself so no real difference there) but there's plenty of Metroid games where Doomslayer doesn't even get halfway with his abilities
>>741710060I don't think Samus would survive hellfire, not for a second while she gets hurt by fucking acid of all things
>>741678749yep.
>>741709393>tries to look up these supposed powerful enemies like Omega Pirates>looks like nothing more than generic mech dudes with your typical by the numbers slow ass energy balls or electric ground pounds.Unironically Doomguy could take these guys with ease.Also i want to say, they're no guarantees any of Samus energy based weaponry would even work against Doomguy with his magic enchanted Armor. Its like Superman being immune to most conventional physical or energy based attacks but then he couldn't deal with magic attacks because it goes through his physical defences.
>>741709826yes it is mate, the BFG doesn't need the combined power of Earth to charge a single shotVolt Driver is just that, the equivalent of being hit in the face with the combined energy output of Earth, repeatedly
>>741710116i said WEAKESTsamus dies to any supernatural threat, so basically almost all the demons, not the weaker ones but you don't need to go far
>>741709682>higher energy output than the BFGnah
>>741710148Doomslayer dies almost instantly in lava so hellfire is weaker than lava which Samus casually dives into
>>741710205it doesn't say it uses all of it obviously that's like saying this gun absorbs water from the ocean and shoots it out to damage people with its pressure and then assuming it sucks the whole ocean to do that
>>741710250it only has that output while being hooked up to the space station anon, don't be disingenuous BFG while just in Doomslayer's hands can't even oneshot Icon of Sin which is just building sized
>>741710148She literally has a suit that lets her swim in lava without issues which Doomguy can't survive but he can tank Hellfire just fine.>>741710157>they're no guarantees any of Samus energy based weaponry would even work against Doomguy with his magic enchanted ArmorHe gets shot at by basic mooks using Earth-based weaponry and takes damage. Are you really going to argue this? I mean maybe you can spin this as it being weaponry buffed by Argent energy or something but you're telling me everyone in Hell has this specialized equipment?
>>741710270i am pretty sure all that is hell lava also again doesn't she die to fucking acid pools? acid lol
>>741710343it says it outputs multi-terrawatt per shot, which is roughly the entire energy output of earth is this the point where you're going to say "its not actually multi-terrawatt" while at the same time taking doom lore as gospel?
>>741710060Someone who dies to getting bumped into by a space bug the size of a large house cat is not gonna stand up well to a shotgun to the face.You must not be American. You seem to think it's a negative that guns kill demons. When guns are the great equalizer that causes the hoards of Hell to tremble before humanities glory.
>>741710401Doomslayer dies to radioactive waste lolSamus survived on planet space cancer
>>741710347>BFG while just in Doomslayer's hands can't even oneshot Icon of Sin which is just building sizedand the Volt Driver can?
>>741710483still can't explain the acid, damn
>>741710385>which Doomguy can't surviveSource on that?
>>741710501lets be generous and say it needs a charge shot, maybe 2but yes Icon of Sin would be pretty easy for Samus
>>741710385>everyone in Hell has this specialized equipment?Yeah? We already know Hell already incorporated UAC tech into themselves like the CyberDemon and Argent is all around Hell, demons are literally Argent energy based since we they die they just disappear into pure argent energy
>>741710552Go walk into it in any game. Any of them at all. That's consistency.>>741710542She's immune to acid in basically any game it's in due to the Varia Suit or other buffs. There is even an entry on the wiki specifically for this.https://metroid.fandom.com/wiki/Acid
>>741710236>samus dies to any supernatural threatSamus literally kills ghosts but thanks for showing you have no idea about Metroid supernatural forces have never stopped Samus
>>741710401acid harms Samus only with early game armors. she can swim in it with the late game ones
>>741710724with what?
>>741710705the fact that Hell needed to integrate human tech into it's strongest demons to power them up just means hell is pretty weak honestlyif demons were as strong as you say they are then why do cyberdemons even need to be upgraded by technology that's even less impressive than Halo's?
>>741710385>He gets shot at by basic mooks using Earth-based weaponryAren't the zombie men in Eternal using argent based energy weapons? The most basic one is using that
>>741710705>>741710852Fair point.
>>741710827power beam, her basic most weapon, they're only annoying because they can turn invisible but she has a visor to deal with that
>>741710827with her regular power beam
I feel like we are mixing the gameplay shit with the lore, characters are gonna feel weaker gameplay wise other wise Samus would beat emmi without an upgrade and Doomguy wouldnt need to solve puzzles to break a forcefield
>>741710827With her Power Beam and missiles. She literally fights ghosts and can hit them just fine and canonically has to do it to obtain an Artifact.
>>741710941>>741710954wouldn't that mean the ghosts are weak? aren't ghosts meant to be invincible unless someone made a magical and i guess sometimes technological thing specifically meant to target them?
>>741710051You are seriously underestimating the plot armor of named, helmetless ultrasmurfs
>>741711094you know what fair point on that
>>741711076Samus equipment is made by a Type 3 Civilization nigga
>>741711223but isnt magic beyond logic?
>>741711076the Chozo are psychics, their basic most weapons being powerful anti-supernatural tools is to be expected your first argument was that Samus would fold to supernatural threats, which is obviously not true considering she can hit ghosts just fine, so no demons are not magically immune to her weaponry especially not doom demons which can be hurt but hand held modern day weapons
>>741711312not all
>>741711298>>741711076I found out there's 17 more types Chozo are definitely on 17+ at least
>>741711298Chozo tech is made up out of bird magic they're advanced enough the difference between magic and technology becomes irrelevant Like take the metroids, the Chozo could just release a bunch of metroids on a demon infested planet and let them clear it out, they eat energy, all forms of energy, they're invulnerable to anything that's not the direct removal of energy (such as cold) so demons would be fucked
Serious Sam and sergeant Cortez beat all
>>741711070She also has a boss fight with Phantoon in Super Metroid, which is a ghost
>>741711472two questions, is it magical tech or advanced tech to the point that it works like magic and is as potent as it?and second wouldnt infernal hell power corrupt or kill them?
>>741710838I wouldn't say they needed to, just that its a bonus for them plus its not just UAC human tech they integrated already but other civilizations too, remember Hell absorbs other dimensions or planets into their dimension and integrates them.Also how is UAC tech worst than Halo's tech?
>>741711472oh shit, that's true, since hell is all lava and fire and shit, they would be pretty screwed against metroids
>>741711583well for one the UAC doesn't have Halo level space ships, that's a pretty big difference
>>741711645hell is mostly argent stuff in doom
>>741711558>and second wouldnt infernal hell power corrupt or kill them?not kill for sure, they genuinely eat every single form of energy, it's even how they're immune to physical attacks they just eat the kinetic energycorrupt it depends if argent energy is more corruptive than phazon, and before you say something, phazon corruption as shown in the 3 prime games works way faster than argent energy even so corruption wouldn't necessarily even align them with hell, it might just give them hell powers making them even better at eating demonsthey were designed specifically to fight the X parasites after all, which are corruption incarnate at a level no demon from doom could even begin approaching
>>741711908how would it be faster than hell energy that took over most of Earth?
>>741711697oh yeah i remember argent energy in the 2016 one. regardless though, it is a type of energy, and metroids absorb all types of energy. i would say they definitely could become corrupted by it also, though. metroids underwent mutations because of phazon in the prime games, so it could definitely happen.
>>741706641>You're confusing how it happened. Vandal opened up some doors to let the Necros into the rest of the Sprawl because Tyler convinced her it would stop their spread.I'm was talking about DS2. Specifically the part where you get into the government sector as Issac and let in the necros to deal with Tiedemann's 200 men. The marker chamber was not affected at this point because Tiedemann orders everyone to fall back to it.
>>741711670That's just the case of some tech being more advanced than othersLike UAC is into teleportation and dimension portals while Halo is into FTL space ships.Weapons in Doom is in the extreme high caliber or plasma based while Halo still uses conventional bullets
>>741711558>is it magical tech or advanced tech to the point that it works like magic and is as potent as it?This one is largely dependent on if you see psychic powers as magic or not, most of it is fairly deep into the Clark-tech but they also had things like divination, can come back as ghosts etc I'd say it's probably a case of advanced enough their technology interfaces with magic to the point they understand magic and it has no specific advantages against them, since some of the technology they have is silly to the point it makes even Doom blush(things like say a planetary shield so strong the space pirates had to resort to launching a black hole at it just to depower it long enough they could invade)
>>741709313>Type-3 CivilizationYou don't know what this means. The Chozo would never have died out if they controlled every star in the galaxy.
If Samus out-techs him and Bayoneta out-magics him, who out-muscles him?
>>741712069Whoops, you're right, my mistake. I dunno man, he only had a handful of men left at best before Isaac flipped the switch but they would indeed have to be resistant enough not to do that themselves. I don't doubt you'd have a good chunk of people still able to resist it but at the same time I doubt the amount of people needed to pilot a ship would be realistic.
>>741712020Phazon took over multiple planets including corrupting one so hard that on impact it corrupted space around it so hard an entirely new dimension of pure corruption was formed it wiped out multiple civilizations (or near-wiped out in case of the Luminoth) that all were drastically more advanced than Earth, which the demons never successfully took overAnd when we're talking phazon corruption we're talking corruption extending down to the very core of the planet, not mostly limited to surface level destruction as seen in Eternal
>>741712230Asura probably
>>741712313well to be fair doomguy is the reason they couldnt
>>741712361of course Asura, meant like a girl going by the theme
>>741712435>a girlno one then
>>741712601well he has that at least
>>741678657samus is the tallest one there btw
>>741712373yeh but Doomslayer was out of commission for a fair bit while the demons invadedPhazon doesn't really do straight up invasions, it just chucks a phazon filled meteorite at your planet and that's kinda GG at that point if you can't stop itDemonic corruption needs a fairly large hell presence to work, phazon just kinda passively gives everything around it space cancer (and by everything I mean everything, it gave cancer to a pile of rocks)
>>741712762damn
>>741680410She only likes non fighters (above it) with high status, like commanders.
>>741678657Samus
>>741712313 The thing about Hell is that in most likely of cases, instead of Metroid's consuming and taking out Hell, instead Hell would integrate and absorb them, turning them into Demonic weapons instead.You gotta remember Hell is off its own plane of existence, its not governed by the rules of whatever universe Metroid is based on.
>>741678657Samus and it's not even worth arguing.>genetically engineered by space god birds to have human superhuman reflexes and speed, suit gives her extreme durability and enhanced strength>can shoot ice beams that can freeze solid or plasma beams that can melt you into soup, even inside armor>can carry like 50 super missiles>immune to extreme heat and cold, can probably survive in the vacuum of space
>>741712245>I dunno man, he only had a handful of men left at best200 men isn't what I'd call a handful. And that was just security. He probably had noncombatants in the government sector as well. We run into a lot of necros in RIG suits as we go through it. Remember that the marker is in this sector, too. I think we can pour water on the notion that the marker signal is this irresistible beacon of rapid madness. It's a slow drip that affects different people differently. It looks for people receptive to it and tries to exploit them. This is basically what Marker Nicole does to Issac to get the necros into the marker chamber. It wanted that to happen so a convergence event could start.
>>741712151The Chozo who nurtured Samus are essentially a subset of Chozo who want peace with nature. The rest of them already fucked off to another dimension or some shit that's why they don't control every star in the galaxy.
>>741684638Are we not counting dead space 3?
>>741703270Demons in 40K are not comparable to demons in Doom. Doom demons are pathetic in comparison.Alot of 40K demons cannot be defeated with mundane physical weapons and force. A Greater demon in 40k would solo armies of NuDoom demons.
if you take samus and joey as canon her durability is ridiculous
>>741712916sure but Hell does have rules and rule number one is that everything is made up out of argent energy, and Metroids are kinda designed to be the ultimate energy-being predators you could say that hell corrupts them but you could equally say that a dedicated energy predator, a non-sapient one so demons can't tempt them, would be an out of context problem for hell they have no good way to deal withChozo themselves are at a technology level that's higher than anything in Doom and it's been shown repeatedly that high tech societies can make anti-hell toolsMetroid also deals with alternative planes of existence a fair amount of times and even when metroids get changed to adapt to it, they still remain energy predators that keep feeding on things in that dimensionAnd course, demons aren't hyper-loyal to each other, in fact demon infighting has been a Doom mechanic since the OG So most likely scenario is that metroids mutate into hell metroids, which then proceed to still keep eating demons because turning into an infernal version doesn't stop them from being metroids
>>741692545>Samus has destroyed entire planetsweird fucking way of saying the guys she tried to kill trigger a self destruct sequence
Can we just agree that "Space pirates open a portal into Hell" is beautiful in it's simplicity as the plot for a Doom-Metroid crossover game?
would Sam's goofy nature and bullshit weapons help him beat Samus or Doomguy?
>>741693351Smash samus could just spot dodge it.
Real doomguy isn't that powerful. NuDoomguy is a marvel super hero.
>>741694227Samus is a kirby though. If she beats some guy from another game, he drops a new upgrade.
Didn't Samus get wrecked by RavenBeak twice until she got the plot driven ultimate power to absorb his energy?Sure she damaged his wings but ultimately lost twice
>>741713636i have crossover fatigue
>>741694464name 6 times
>>741678657Marathon Security Officer.
>>741713939ok who's this guy that keeps getting mentioned
>>741713910yeah and raven beak would rape davoth>>741713939based
>>741694728Just freeze him? lol
>>741695107that game is not cannon
>>741694772My nigga never maxed out his nodes
>>741714010too strong and imbued with hellfire argent energy
>>741714186Samus has a beam/visor combo that lets her target someone's brainstem and surgically remove it regardless of how much armor is in the way, you need shields or supernatural bullshit to even survive upgraded Isaac is great but he's out of his depth here
>>741713939why are powerlevelfags so retarded
>>741713419That is if we follow the idea that Argent is just pure energy or if its something more otherwordly, Argent's name was only ever coined by the UAC with their most basic knowledge of it and their use on it was also very basic. Argent in its truest form would literally be reality bending, discarding the laws of nature itself.Its made out of pure human souls after all, do metroids suck off human souls lol?
>>741698817Issac is the only one who could figure out any of the 4 suits.
>>741714304sounds like a certain metroidfag in the the thread
>>741700990Yea but who would throw it? None of the rest of em are smart enough.
>>741714420>do metroids suck off human souls lol?actually yeh they dowell they suck off some mystical "life energy" out of humans that causes them to die but that same life energy also turns chozo into ghosts, ghosts that can be eaten by metroids, so pretty safe to say is they're sucking the soul energy straight out of peopleplenty of reality bending energies in metroid as well that metroids themselves still succ
>>741678657>EnduranceDoom Guy(literal years of nonstop fighting)>>>>>> Chief (weeks of nonstop fighting) > Isaac (days of nonstop fighting). Samus finishes her missions too quick for endurance to come up, so she's up in the air.>DurabilitySamus (Terravolt dispensing small arms lmao) > Chief (Forerunner small arms lmao) > Isaac = Doom Guy (can get hurt by a zombie punch)SpeedSamus (super sonic on foot in ridiculous gravity) >>> Chief (smacking a missile out of mid air) > Doom Guy (dodging bullets) > Isaac (peak human conditioning)>Weapon OutputSamus (terravolt small arms lmao) > Chief (forerunner weapons) > Doom Guy (BFG) > Isaac > Chief (unsc weapons) > Doomguy (non-BFG weapons)>StrengthSamus (one handed a whale out of lava) > chief (can h2h brutes who one arm tons) > Doom Guy (slowly moves tons) > Isaac (can turn a torso to pulp with a stomp)>Combat IQChief (with cortana/weapon) > Isaac >Chief (no ai) >Doomguy (literally just beserking) > Samus (jobs despite having perfect analytical tech)>HaxSamus (weird beam weapons, suit variants, morph ball) > Isaac (stasis, telekinesis, occasionally helpful schizophrenia) > Doomguy (turning violence into health, armor, ammo) > Chief (lucky, weird anti-piracy dna shit)>VerdictSamus should win, unless she jobs as she does whenever encountering a new enemy. Chief has next best chance, but I think Isaac has a shot by being the least impressive and just waiting for the others to fuck each other up and then using a mining tool to just kill the survivor during stasis.
>>741701387is this different than just the standard japanese undub?
Samus is pretty ridiculous. And the last non-onions option.
>>741714804doomguy would have beaten galeem or whatever his name was while samus got turned to a figure though
>>741702980morphball
>>741703270what is that smile?
>>741704563Yea but doomlore is wish fulfillment slop so it doesn't count.
>>741705770Women love him so he'd beat samus.
if isaac hits anybody with stasis or TK then they're dead, simple as. Why do people underrate him? Has anybody here even played Dead Space? Any one of his ridiculously powerful guns will go through these guys like a hot knife through butter.
Depending on the set of equipment samus has, her weapons are really ridiculous.The moth bros in Metroid Prime 2 made a cannon that shoots black holes
>>741708782rex
>>741714676Are Chozo ghosts even actually ghosts? They still seem to be very corporeal if a simple X Ray vision can spot them.>plenty of reality bending energies in metroid as well that metroids themselves still succany sources?
>>741715026nta you can't just say that when you don't have an argument
>>741714804You already forgot how she had to hide without the armor in Zero? Doomguy runs on lava in Doom 1 and punches the cyberdemon to death.
>>741682649His fault for bringing only class two armor.
>>741710000>demons are stronger than aliens because...because...
>>741678657Still Samus.>By virtue of being in a metroidvania her mobility is leagues ahead of the others, can run / jump / even fly to get around the map and platforming. I guess this is mitigated if you go off of Prime which limits her movement/jumping significantly but then she still has Screw Attack>More versatility in power-ups, wide variety of visors/grappling/ball upgrades in addition to beam weapons>Missiles are treated like a big weapon for all three of the guys and Samus can spam fire upwards of 300 missiles
>>741715325nta cuz magic dummy
>>741714701>Doom Guy (can get hurt by a zombie punch)Samus (headbutted by a simple bug)
>>741712601sheik
>>741678657Doomguy loses instantly because after the hell invasion he would never try to kill a human without good reason and even then would hesitate a lot, letting his guard down. DeadSpaceGuy is just a guy, not even a fighter. Haloguy is military but that's all. MetroidGal is more fantasy than sci-fi just like Doomguy which puts her above Haloguy, but unlike Doomguy she's a mercenary who would fight the others with no remorse. She wins.
>>741714251charge the beam and/or missle
>>741714701Doomguy would probably be on par with Chief actually if we have Doomguy with Vega
>>741715212at least halo, metroid and dead space have internal continuity. You can't even powerscale the doom shit within its own series. Its like arguing about superman or marvelslop.
>>741715521i don't think she can hurt him and doomguy would defend himself
>>741715617I had actually forgot about Vega, I should also put Doom Guys Mecha under weapons, that should allow him to hurt Samus as Ridley could literally smack the powers out of her.
>>741715143Remember that gun that just clears the whole room? Outside of bfg and powerbomb the others all have to aim shit. Doesn't matter how strong it is if it never hits.
>>741715413>magic is stronger than real life because...because...
>>741715521Doomguy would probably see Samus as less than human especially with her fucked up metroid/chozo fuckery.
>>741678657Smus has beans that are magically made out of ice and plasma at the same time that can shoot through anything without damaging anything but the target. How many wavy icy plasma charge beams can Doom Dude take? Like a single fucking one probably, maybe 2. And she has infinite ammo, she has nukes, way more shields than he does, she can basically turn into a black hole and fly, and she's immune to all the elements including lava and even gravity itself. And she has super speed. I don't think it looks good for Doom. But this is a boneheaded question and the real answer is the character that would win is always the character that is being controlled by the more skilled player.
>>741715783Power bombs are canonically on the same level of destruction as nukes.
>>741715521>with no remorse
>>741714804>>741715268This, without the suit she's nothing. Meanwhile naked Doomguy with his fists is all he needs
why are they so tall
>>741714703https://gbatemp.net/threads/metroid-other-m-true-japanese-mod-english-fan-translation.625069/
>>741678657>IsaacNot a chance. He just doesn't have the equipment.>John HaloAlso unlikely, unless he gets lucky with the sticky grenades>DoomguyHas a chance, but he's got to be quick. Be like a DPS.>SamusThough she lacks the firepower of Doomguy, she could probably tank (after tank, after tank, after tank...) a shitload of damage.I'd put my money on Samus, but only by a hair.
>>741705816Samus could parry and EMMI, but she's only able to destroy them with the Omega Cannon and her fully activated Metroid Powers. Unlike Raven Beak, she's not strong enough to tear an EMMI apart.
>>741715992because they surpass conventional shit and break the rules dummy
>ludonarrative dissonancenice lore asstard
>>741716220Yeah every Nintendo hero/heroine is a perfect angel. Meteoroid fans know this, they just lie because they want her to be something different. Idk why.
>this threaddid everyone here forget that Doomguy can literally come back from the dead? And its said he has fought hell for eons so he's ageless.Isn't he basically nigh immortal
>>741716464Why do demons die to bullets then?
>>741716072She's got that cartoon videogame logic where her own bombs don't hurt her though. Master chief can certainly kill himself with his own bombs. Doom guy I think it depends on the game. Deadspace guy I dunno.I wouldn't know how to weight for these differences though
>>741716591They don't, they always respawn back in hell
>>741715268>she had to hide without the armorBecause her stun pistol couldn't kill the space pirate(And I believe the red ones are the 2nd strongest variant in Zero mission ) She could still tank hits(forget the damage) and outmaneuver them.
>>741716538"Who would win" is one fight. He doesn't revive mid fight.
>>741715203phazon created a completely new dimension upon colliding with Aether I would classify creating a new dimension as dimension bending
>>741716591i guess it depends on the work but most demons are like the 40k ones that require more than just bullets, even in doom you need anti tank weapons an super high tech shit, even the doomguy's bullets are argent coated from his own body
>>741716072why don't they do much then?
Samus has>better weapons>more showings of strength>higher mobility>more abilities>better abilitiesthan SlayerBut it'd be funny if we used antifeats to compare them both. In that case Doom Slayer is temple tier and Samus gets knocked over by a pack of giga wolves.
>>741716268generations of unchecked hypergamy
>>741716267never seen zss huh?
>>741716776it's really mainly the argent shield of the sarcophagus that made him trapped
>>741716673>phazon created a completely new dimension upon colliding with Aetheris this actually a magical dimension? Or one that is still followed by the rules of the universe? The fact that it can be destroyed just by destroying the planet doesn't seem like its all that reality bending
>>741716642respawn implies they died dummy
>>741716948>tearing open a hole in reality is not reality altering because said hole gets closed laterHell of a thesis.
>>741716965they're made of argent energy, they dissipate and form back into being.
>>741716676>doomguy's bullets are argent coated from his own bodyWhat game is this? Certainly not the first one. Sounds a little retconned to make doomguy seem like a super special boy if I'm being honest.
>>741717076Just one that's dictated by the rule of your universe
>>741717083literally not a relevant distinction at all lol
>>741717115where have you fucking been? it was already stated and shown in some games that he got modified by some uber powerful somewhat magical cosmic machineit's why he's so busted and added into powerscaling
>>741716609>She's got that cartoon videogame logic where her own bombs don't hurt her thoughHer own bombs don't hurt her, but also enemy power bombs don't do much to her.In Metroid Fusion, where her armor is weaker than normal, she barely takes any damage from the SA-X's power bomb. In Metroid Dread she doesn't take any damage from the EMMI power bomb, while in the Gravity Suit. >>741716743NTA but power bombs are primarily incendiary not explosive.
>>741716663wouldn't you need it to be absolute death?
>>741716743Cultural sensitivities due to nuclear bombs being used in japan.
>>741717204it means they're almost immortal, the number of demons never go down.
>>741717218which games?
>>741717257Since when has that been a requirement in any fight?
>>741717448When Goku keeps coming back to life
still feels weird having Isaac part of the squadlike Samus/Doom/Chief just feel like a natural trio and always have but Isaac is like when they need a 4th man and don't really have any closer friends
>>7417173732016 i believe mentioned it or something like thatbut the later games are the ones that actually heavily delved into it, eternal full on displayed it, flat out showed him enter the machine at some pointdark ages happens shortly after it and has it in the lore pagesseriously it's the most famous/infamous and controversial/known thing about doomslayer now how the hell didnt you see it or even hear about it?
>>741717539Every superhero group needs one "regular human".
>>741717327again that has literally nothing to do with the topic, they got shot with a gun and they die (dissipate), doesn't mean doomguy has any sort of advantage over samus, he just aims and shoots
>>741717514He doesn't comeback mid fight
can a custode beat doomslayer physically?
>>741717539He's basically the only other prominent "Space" dude.
>>741717637Ah well those are made by a different staff.
>>741717686>magic bullshitery is bullshit>here's an example of magic bullshitery>doomguy is all about magic bullshitery now
>>741717858and? it still countsdon't get me wrong i like og doom and mods more concept wise
>>741717850dark void, lost planet, section 8, titanfall maybe
>>741717758oh well, at least he'll be alive after the fight, meanwhile everyone else would be dead.
>>741717994I said prominent, meaning popular.I don't even think most of those guys in your list went to space.
>>741717539it should probably be Gordon Freeman as their 4th but he refuses to wear a helmet
>>741717941Yea but thats like changing writers for a super hero comic. Why use the strong lore when you could just use the weak lore? They both contradict each other. (Also didn't mention it before since I wasn't up to date but I though 2016 was supposed to be a seperate universe and that got retconned in eternal or dark ages)
>>741716948it's so actively hostile to real world stuff it flat out starts disintegrating things that enter it, it's way more hostile than Hell which the UAC could enter with a lot less trouble
>>741718087How about megaman starforce?
>>741718254Too young, no one wants a kid dragging the vibe down
>>741718120Gordon isn't really a "Space" kind of guy>Xenmore different dimension than actually space. >>741718254Shephard from Mass Effect fits more into this category
>>741718013and? still lost
>>741718182simple, he started off weak or as weak as a space marinethen became as strong as a super hero using the machine
>>741718182they're all the same universe, even the OG games are technically canon (which TDA dlc seems to be focusing on a bit)
>>741718348Oh yea I forgot him. Hes just so forgetable. Honestly I probably would have guessed the fallout guy first I think he went to space once.
>>741718629Yea but that doesn't address the demons becoming stronger.
>>741718694Morgan Yu from Prey is also pretty nice "Space" guy but for just being in one game he's also not really that prominent
>>741718694Oh wait what do the red faction guys look like? they wear power suits?
>>741718293what if samus had sex with him and he became a man?
You know what? powersuits are lame anyways. This is why I stick to robogirls.
>>741719362meh
>>741717539after seeing all the recs, i think Isaac does fit the most into the group.The Criteria seems to be:>Space themed obviously>stars in multiple games in their own franchise>cool ass helmets and armors>is mostly solo and usually goes against overwhelming oddsSomeone like Shepard would have fit into the list perfectly if it weren't the fact that he's always with his Squad members, also i'm not too familiar with the series and their face is mostly seen but does Shepard have an option to always wear a helmet?Gordon is not in Space and Morgan Yu is only in one game
>>741719000What if doomguy molested him and he became a femboy?
>>741718814hell grasp becoming stronger maybe
>>741717539>Doomguy using a PS5 controllerhe should be the one with the mouse and keyboard
>>741719614Doesn't he fight reapers?
