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criticize this game without sounding like a contrarian
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>>741680069

there's no real reason for it take over a decade to finish
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deltatroon
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>>741680069
trooohnslolp
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>>741680069
too much delta, not enough rune
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dialogue written by people who grew up on tumblr and it shows, quadrupling down on the worst of undertale
i might enjoy this game if i could forget how to read
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It's gay
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>>741680069
Troon troon something troon something something troon troon
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The only reason it and undertale are so popular is the porn and the fact that toby had access to the homestuck fanbase.

Prove me wrong
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>>741680069
tumblr faggot shit made by and for troons
get this garbage off the catalog
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the music peaked in chapter 2. please prove me wrong robert
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>>741680069
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Its a game for people who use telegram and discord
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>>741680069
People don't talk enough about how bad Chapter 1 is.
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>>741680069
It's not a good RPG and it shouldn't be 25 dollars
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>>741680069
Releasing this game in bits and pieces is retarded. Is this patreon funded cause this is how people make money off patreon.
I will wait patently for the full release.
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Kris being a silent protagonist is retarded. The reason devs stopped doing it in the mid 2010’s is because they realized in story heavy games having the main character not talk significantly hampers the plot and is weird that the person you play as is mute for no reason. Should have given him voice lines would have been an interesting dynamic hearing him speak with and without the heart controlling him.
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>>741680069
Taking way too long to make for a pixel game with only two paths.
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>>741680069
It's literally for 15 year old girls to write gay fanction on reddit
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>>741680069
This is troonslop just like that Digital Circus thing. Likely they share the same annoying fanbase
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>>741680069
The characters are cool but the gameplay is boring I guess. I only played to the start of chapter 2 and gave up because I was bored
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>>741680069
a bit too much walking and talking
also not hard enough overall
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>>741682327
Tumbler, but close enough
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It just doesn’t appeal to me while a plethora of others games within the genre manage to satisfy me sufficiently.
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>>741680069
Took 10 years to make and lacks clear direction and focus
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>>741682656
Nobody uses tumblr anymore. It's a dead website.
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>>741680069
i have no idea what this is
and i have no interest to ever find out
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>>741680069
Queercoded therapy sesh game.
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>>741680069
> YOUR TAKING TOO LONG!
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>>741680069
tranny game
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>>741680069
Too scared to commit to any evil villains.
Queen is too much of a quirk chungus.
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>>741681593
So, a game for Russians?
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>>741683096
Those are blocked there so no.
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>>741683096
That's what I thought too.
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we are 4 chapters in out of 7 and we still have no idea what the antagonist is actually trying to do.
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Developing a GameMaker game so slowly that the release schedule is an episodic format with years between chapters should be illegal. It's not even good enough to warrant the wait.
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>>741680069
I heard the guy who made it is pro-skub. Fuck that shit.
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>>741680069
Toby Fox cant have a truly irredeemable villain for some reason, he accidentally did with the King and immediately turned him into a joke
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>>741680069
The first chapter is still the best.
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>>741680069
i like it but toby is a hack and the plot is just mystery boxes and cliffhangers teasing, peak shit if i was still a teenager with no standards
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>>741680069
It lacks Papyrus.
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>>741680069
It's tumblr slop for faggots who liked Homosuck 500 years ago
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>>741680069
Not very replayable, this is a problem since it also is secret focused so whilst playing you experience an unpleasant fear of missing out. Also doesnt help that the game is unfinished so we dont know what the eggs are for example and if you are wasting your time replaying whole chapters to hypotetically get the TRUE ending.
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>>741680069
Choosing to censor that one scene after a day of 'outrage' proved toby has no actual artistic merit. What we get is nothing more than a watered down version of what he actually wants to write, and a writer whose mind is occupied by concerns of "how might the general public respond?" is nothing more than a hack.
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>>741680850
Toby had zero excuse not to assemble a proper dev team after Ch.2
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>>741680069
Getting the shadow mantle and Ch3 egg requires doing things just right in a lengthy zelda reference that takes up 2/3 of the chapter and won't even let you save during it. Fuck you Toby.
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>>741680069
Average Deltatroon chapter
>Ralsei: Hey Kris my they/them friendoroonie, let's go on another HECKING, I MEAN, ZOMYGODS DID I SAY H*ECK OH FUCK I'M SO PURE AND INNOCENT, adventure!
>Susie: HECK YEAH MY AWESOME CHUNGUS REDDIT FRIEND, I'M MAGICALLY CURED OF ALL MY INSECURITIES, EXCEPT IN THE MOST CONTRIVED CIRCUMSTANCES WHEN THE PLOT CALLS FOR IT!
>Kris: That sounds awesome my fellow tranny companions. I don't speak because the writer is too attached to trying to subvert his own game he made over ten years ago and now I have a secondary character in me for super ebin twists.
>Also he does actions that are rape allegories for some reason, but we'll patch that out because our creator lacks balls.
>Ralsei: SUPERDEDUPER! By the way, PLEASE LOVE ME AND DON'T EVER LEAVE ME, I PROMISE I'M NOT LYING TO YOU ABOUT ANYTHING (I AM LYING MASSIVELY)
>Chapter Villain: HEY THERE MY BEST BUDDIES! I'M THE NEW CHAPTER VILLAIN, AND I'M SOOOOOOO QUIRKY! LOOK HOW MUCH MEME-RY I CAUSE! HERE'S MY QUOTABLE QUOTE WHICH MY TROONY LOONY FANS WILL SPAM LIKE A BUNCH OF FAGGOTS!
>CV: OH, AND BY THE WAY, I'M ACTUALLY EEEEEEVIL! UNTIL YOU BEAT ME, THEN I'M EVEN MOOOOOOOOOORE QUIRKY AND CHUNGUS! BECAUSE WE CAN'T HAVE ACTUAL CONSEQUENCES IN DELTARUNE!
>Kris: I have committed either humanitarian crimes or am nonplussed to all this and hate being powered by a soul.
>Ralsei: Yeah that's great Krississy, seal the fountain so I can keep spinning my narrative.
>Ralsei: Wow friends, that was another epic adventure! Let's go on another one tomorrow, because this game happens in a week after all! Nevermind the progression of time or actual consideration for character development, the creator is too busy larping as a japanese and being a cuck for them.
>Oh wait, he just delayed chapter 6 by another two years.
>HERE'S TO MORE DELTARUNE!
You're all faggots if you like this garbage.
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the fight dojo had only 1 new fight between chapter 3 and 4, and you also couldn't go back to do old fights for some reason. there are no new item fusions past chapter 2.

there's a lot of bizarre things with items, like the TVslop, TVdinner and ExecBuffet items don't tell you how much they heal in the item menu. You can get TwinRibbon in chapter 2, but it gets nerfed in chapter 3. The FiberScarf gives 2 attack in chapter 2 and 4, but in chapter 3 it gives 3 attack.

the game tries to make a big point that darkners are represented by physical items in the world, and that to see them again in castle town you have to bring those items back to the closet. Except at the end of chapter 4 where you can just leave to go back to castletown with only kris, you can already place the recruits you got in the church in the cafe. this point isn't really a big deal, but it feels like something that the game should have addressed even if it was just a throwaway line.
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>>741681315
I made a filter

# === Deltarune / Undertale Thread Filters for /v/ ===

# Game titles (safe, very specific)
/\b(Deltarune|Undertale|Undertale Yellow)\b/i;op:only;boards:v;stub:no;
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>>741684743
What games do you like anon? you sure sound like someone with refined taste
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>>741680069
as a fan of this game, Chapter 3 was a bit rushed.

that's literally it. that's the only criticism I can think of.
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>>741685185
Can you do it for /trash/ and /vg/ too? Not because I dislike it but I don’t want it to be spoiled
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>>741681513
It's the objectively correct opinion
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>>741685249
Notice how this nigga has no argument and seethes.
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>>741680069
deltatroon
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>>741684743
bro i just want to fuck the characters
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>>741680069
Chapter 3 is a bit weird pacing wise and quite a slog to get through especially on repeat playthroughs
Sweet, Cap'n and K_K fucking suck and their music makes my ears bleed
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Toby is creative and original
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>>741680069
It's not much of a traditional RPG. The equipment system and stats feel like fluff. It's more there for the story and atmosphere of an RPG rather than being a meaty RPG.

Honestly this isn't inherently bad, but if you're after a substantial RPG experience with dungeon crawling and managing builds, this isn't it. You might be turned off by all the minigames.

I love Deltarune, I tried.
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>>741685545
i'm being serious tough
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>>741684138
Despite my distaste for Undertale and Deltarune, the absolute humiliation and mogging that Toby gave to Homestuck is very satisfying. I fucking loath Andrew Hussie and wish him nothing but continued failure and midlife crises.
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>>741684253
>What we get is nothing more than a watered down version of what he actually wants to write,
Exactly fucking this. I remember when this happened and realized anything after that point would just be dogshit. I thought it was so funny, but faggots lost their shit because this entire fanbase mentally and emotionally stunted man children.
I don't feel anything for chapter 5.
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>>741680069
It's worth 50 AAA studios, but it's nowhere near as focused and coherent as Undertale.

rarest toby included no one else has this image
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>>741680069
This game is more /co/ than /v/
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>>741685676
Sorta this. Wish deltarune was more of an in depth rpg rather than a bigger undertale in terms of gameplay.
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Why does the game attract a mentally ill fanbase in large quantities?
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>>741685908
Because it's made by mentally ill developers.
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>>741685908
Honestly I'm very puzzled as to why the game has an actual cult-like fanbase on this board. I know 4chan is rampant with the drecks of society, but any time I enter one they all just ramble about the same topics with insane theories, absurd lusts and come across as genuine freaks who should be put down...
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>>741686128
that's because they are
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>>741685908
It was bound to happen because Toby worked on Homestuck
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>>741685908
>>741681315
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>>741686128
>game full of anthropomorphic characters, platitudinous themes, and metanarrative tripe attracts neurodivergent deviants
Who could have seen this coming?
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>>741680069
The way the game locks you out of things in newer chapters because your old saves are on a 10 year old console somewhere, kinda sucks.
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>>741686128
/v/ isn't one person
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>>741680069
no commitment to the doe rape
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>>741686284
Nigga I have ADHD but you don't see me slobbering over the game.
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Did anyone here play Chapters 1-4 all at once for the first time rather than as they released? I'm very curious how that felt because going back through the game chapters feel more like seperate games rather than a single flowing game. There's nothing wrong with that now but I wonder in the future how this game is going to feel once it's completed and people try to dive into the whole thing.
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>>741686398
it takes like under an hour to run through a chapter if you just skip the dialogue
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>>741685772
>stunted man children.
Why do you like projecting so much anon?
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I don't play tranny artsy "games".
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>>741686412
I have ADHD and I'm obsessed with theorizing over the game.
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>>741686412
Rule, meet exception.
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>>741686420
no but i replayed all the chapters each time a new one released
because i couldn't remember anything since they were like 3-4 years apart
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>>741680069
I don't want to see disabled characters in an idealized fantasy world
I don't want to see homosexuals in games
I don't like the smelly purple dinosaur because this kind of bully girls is pathetic and disgusting irl

I do like Noelle Holiday and her mother and they both owe me a lot of sex, but they're not enough to make me play this politically charged radical left wing game
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>>741685908
Tumblr artstyle + quirk chungus type characters
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>>741686436
>Mentally and emotionally stunted man-child seethes at being pointed out
case in point
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>>741680069
warioware but for sissies
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>>741686447
Have you tried killing yourself?
>>741686406
Are you stupid?
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>>741686464
Is Carol Holiday the hottest videogame cougar of this decade?
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Why is the janitor so mentally ill?
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>>741686870
he hates that a thread talking about video games is out preforming the designated culture war and gatcha threads
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>>741686870
>New Deltatroon thread pops up the moment the other one reaches bump limit
How is that not a general?
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>>741686898
The janny doesn't even get paid for this...
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>>741686934
an update to the game is coming in just over a day, people are discussing stuff
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>>741686959
That doesn't answer my question.
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>>741680850
This.
No reason for this shit to take a decade to come out
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>>741686959
so?
we have a board for that, videogame generals
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>>741680069
Toby missed out on making a rape minigame of the doe, full with orgasm sounds too.
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>>741686934
>>741687019
>>741687029
What's wrong? You didn't get your janitor application accepted?
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>>741687087
no i'm just tired of seeing your tumblr troonshit spammed here
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>>741687098
get over it
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>>741687087
Notice how no one can actually answer the question. Just all deflecting to seething about jannies.
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>>741687098
>>741685185
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>>741687029
>>741686995
>>741687098
if any game that has passed the "grace period" of how many days it is allowed to talk about it after release, then get rid of the OoT, palworld, mina, C:U, GTA, HalfLife, etc threads too since those are already "old" games that can't be discussed on vee video games anymore and gotta be kicked to the cesspool that is veegee where 99% of the threads aren't even about the games themselves anymore but instead about stupid drama
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>>741687168
none of those games have threads spammed one after another over and over
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>>741686934
>no editions
>no ritualposts
>no tripfaggots
>overall less circlejerky and gay
Anyone who's been on this site for more than a few weeks knows /v/ and /vg/ are totally different beasts.
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>>741681176
No one here has ever played homestuck
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>>741680069
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>>741687204
>
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>>741687204
lol, lmao, shows how much you know about the board you claim to use
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>>741687206
This is also a funny cope. Deltrarune fags acting like they're any better then the schizos who shit up the /vg/ thread when you're literally all the same.
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>>741687308
and yet you are here every thread doing your own ritual posts, ironic isn't it
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>>741687308
>answered your question
>n-nuh uh! i said so!
k
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>>741687143
You can't tell others to get over it while at the same time cry about jannies non stop deleting your threads
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>>741687204
fucking kek
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okay then answer me this: what causes this bias towards Toby's games?
I do not see the other threads about tending games (or the usual stealth /pol/ threads or porn dump threads) that pop up daily receiving this same treatment
Is it just you feeling repulsed by these threads because the game is "Tumblr" and faggy?
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>>741687360
truth hurts
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>>741687168
>Ocarina
>GTA
>Halflife
>actual games that have shaped the trajectory of vidya
>vs...
>...some tranny pandering game by a washed up dev sucking jap cock and will be forgotten about when it's done
You sure got us there!
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>>741687206
The real answer is that these wouldn't (typically) qualify as a general because there's people actually trying to discuss the game.
Issue being if they banned everyone not talking about the game it'd exclusively be pet retards imported from /vg/ or jannies themselves making terrible dogshit posts because they're still mad Deltarune was a bigger deal than the switch 2 releasing.
Further the rule about generals literally does exist for the sole purpose of removing games the jannies don't like but in the past they realized they can't just start trying to enforce opinions without killing the entire board
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>>741687420
>Is it just you feeling repulsed by these threads because the game is "Tumblr" and faggy?
yes
keep your faggot shit to yourself
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>>741687337
The post didn't answer anything. A general isn't defined by rather or not it has editions, ritualposts, etc. Even 4chan's own FAQ says that generals are
>long-term, recurring threads about a specific topic.
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>>741685908
it's way better to avoid writing a solid concrete story and instead just provide vague hints that allow obsessive fans to go nuts using their own headcanon to fill in the blank. just say some nonsense like
>i shall fall here, but the cycle continues on...
>it's not like your kind would understand
>you remind me of... him
>ever since that thing that happened years ago...
and make up for lack of characterization with shit like
>voiceless boss drops a random trinket with a description that hints how he was really a deep and tortured soul forced to do bad things
>X is Y! this changes EVERYTHING you thought you knew about the lore!
>actually YOU are le-evil because you killed Luuguutrix The Fallen (who you need to kill to access the next zone) who was only standing there peacefully, you monster!!
>174th instance of "his only characterization is that he's really loyal which is why he still stands there guarding this random boss room even after death!"
>copy-pasted asset boss is actually a twin/shadow/mirror entity/remnant/ghost/ancestor/hallucination/projection
>random INSANITY bit where red and black stuff flashes on the screen, hinting that the player is a hecking crazy schizo and sees the world as a distorted nightmare which is the lore reason we murderhobo all these npcs!
>final villain's plan amounts to "hahaha i was sitting here waiting for you to kill all those bosses for me all along!" to avoid actually having to write a world and story in which things are happening in the background
bonus points for inserting some meta shit about how you're in a videogame and the boss is aware that you can keep retrying
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>>741687474
>le yes chad
>images.jpg
Reminder these are the types of tourists you're arguing with, it's not worth the energy
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threads about softcore gay porn cause less seethe than this, wonder why
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>>741680069
it's not out yet

it's not as novel as undertale
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>>741687349
Yeah I can
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>>741687561
>threads about softcore gay porn cause less seethe than this
so if we began posting borderline NSFW drawings of Ralsei, these threads would suddenly become better?
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>>741685908
In an era where socializing is dry, people cling desperately unto fandoms and theories and idolizing their interests like never before just to create the illusion of community and kinship, despite not realizing how utterly degenerate, immature and loathsome their methods are.
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>>741687627
Maybe.
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>criticize things!
why? i just want to have fun. what a pointlessly negative thread
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>>741687087
I really like the game.
I just don't think there is any valid reason for the game to be only 5/7 finished after 8 years.
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>>741686862
Perhaps
Toby the faggot Fox should've made a dating sim about the Holoday family
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>>741687781
And there will never be, what's done is done
Toby fucked up by being so slow and being so naive regarding the actually rather big project that Deltarune's development is
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I already played Earthbound
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>>741687514
A "recurring thread" means a thread in the same format remade after the last one fails. That's where "editions" come from. The format.
Just making a lot of threads about one game is never a general and was never intended to be.
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>>741687848
HOLY(day) SAGGERS
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>>741687514
So GTA6 has generals right?
Any answer besides "yes" is a concession.
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>>741687931
This is e-marketing gone out of hand
There's been this rather dumb trend of trying to incite "rage-baiting" threads every time there was some sort of AAA game coming out this decade, and all for the sake of "getting people to talk about it" even if in a negative way, because that will always at least generate 1 sale
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>>741680069
Western fags pandering insidious Trojan Horse.
uwu aah characters
Toby is purposedly drip feeding the rest of the game to milk it to sell merch and using the Nintendo Direct spotlights to rebound interest into the game with each new chapter releases.

Aside from those I don't find anything else, it's legitimately a great game (so far).
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>>741687898
>just making a lot of threads about one game is never a general and was never intended to be.
true
so all these are allowed >>741687931
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>>741688024
Ultimately, yeah. Though at a certain point, having a bunch of threads up simultaneously for the same game looks pretty fucking bad. Good thing Deltarune is at worst a thread or two at once.
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>>741682327
Don't forget Brazillian gay furries.
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>>741688105
>Good thing Deltarune is at worst a thread or two at once.
lol
lmao even
i remember the flood of spamton threads all over the place when chapter 2 came out
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he could have finished this 7 years ago. I think he's afraid of being outed as the hack he is because he's not capable of doing a real RPG. he's never demonstrated any real aptitude in designing combat systems or boss battles, or anything else but small mini-games. nigga just finish the thing and go make a VN
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>>741688007
I mean it's more a symptom of the board being dead and the failure to groom popular interest, same reason there's 40 threads shrieking about the gabecube.
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>>741687730
Kill yourself or grow up.
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>>741680069
I just don't feel any interest in it for the same reason I'm not into chinese stuff: I played so many of the originals over the past 30 years that I don't see a point in playing a knock-off/copy/homage.
Also the homestuck fandom freaked me out and it extends to the modern version.
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>>741684743
You can tell when someone has experienced something when they're able to pour much hate into it.
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>>741688270
This
You should be a based black-pilled 22 year-old chud like us
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>>741680069
Game is about quirky characters in a oldschool bullet hell gameplay, all the while trying to pose as something super orginal. Its fanbase are turbo autist cancer that only cares about shiping characters and nothing else, undertale would perform better as a cartoon for autistic teens and adults.
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>>741680069
I hope there isn't more gay shit than there was in Undertale because Suselle does not interest me. Some of the humor falls flat, but some of it is funny. The game is easy as fuck besides the secret bosses and I wanted to fuck up the titan but it was a scripted battle. It might be awkward to play the whole game at once considering all the years that have passed, but it might also be a lot smoother than I think, I haven't even bothered to replay but there are autists who do it like 3 different times to exhaust every last line of dialogue. There's still time and Weird Route used to have no hints, now it does, so anyone playing Chapter 3 could replay 2 and get the idea to freeze every single enemy. I like the game noticeably more than Undertale if that means anything and my opinion on it is generally positive.
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>>741685545
Not hearing any games
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>>741688318
No, you should stop purposefully regressing just because life is hard. It's fine to unwind and want to relieve stress. But abiding slop and engaging in delusions to do so is pathetic, and people like you who do that are reasons why garbage like deltarune and digital circus get millions of dollars.
Grow up. Learn how to cope properly. Be better.
Dismissed.
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>>741688396
Truth nuke
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>>741680069
I dont like the font. They should have used times new roman. That is a good font
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>>741688383
Also, if you don't encounter Gerson and do his boss fight, his appearance in Chapter 4 is very awkward. At least it's pretty easy to find him, and you get a reward from it.
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>>741680069
small enemy encounters and the spare mechanic feel vestigal at best at this point.
clearly just there because it was in undertale.
the split into three character combat bloated up said small encounters too so they feel like a drag.
toby seems to be aware of it because chapter 3 and 4 had nearly none of them.

meanwhile boss fights are often too scripted and railroaded. the darkness mechanic of chapter 4 was that at its worst and I hope it stays in that chapter.
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>>741680069
>criticize this game without sounding like a contrarian
I loved Undertale. Deltarune feels like a fangame made by its obnoxious online tranny fanbase that fundamentally misrepresents what Undertale was about and what was good about it.
Undertale was pretending to be retarded for fun, Deltarune is genuine retards that think they're in good company.
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>>741680069
Muffet won't be in the game.
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>>741681513
You're wrong.
The game itself peaked at Chapter 2.
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>>741688643
I miss her
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>>741680069
The fandom does like 90% of the legwork with respect to its popularity

Also Toby's music is not that good
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>>741688217
Toby was right there, living with Hussie and watched as Hussie fucked up in every way, and some ways thought impossible, to fuck up.
He watched and learned how not to work too hard and burn out, how much shit fans are willing to take (Megapauses etc.) and how not to squander all your money and future investments with a media project. And most importantly, how it is best to not interact directly with the fanbase.

Hussie fell down the stairs, repeatedly, so Toby could walk
(This is a 42-year old man btw)
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>>741680069
nah toby flox slops are pretentious junks, if you like then you are mentally stunted. And worse you're lgbt apologist
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>>741689310
latinx mad it wasnt translated into his monkey language
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>>741686420
I did.
It flows decently well into eachother.
Or at the very least it did not feel jarring
Twewy had a similiar structure.
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>>741680069

Toby loves lesbians but can't write dykes at all.
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Why would you trust /v/ with anything?
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>>741689384
Your culture and race are being eliminated lol
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>>741680069
It's one of my pet peeves; the way the game's chapters are written and how long the gaps are, there's enough time that Toby has the ability to change the plot as he goes in response to the fans' reactions to each new game.
I'm not a big fan of when devs/writers can do that, especially in media full of mystery and lore.
Someone figures out the plot twist in advance with a bunch of "well OBVIOUSLY X = Y" shit making your plot twist look stupid? Change it, now you're doing 5D chess and can be smug in knowing nobody figured it out.
A fan theory gets super popular and everyone thinks it's 8D chess and that the writers would have to be a genius to come up with something like that? Implement it, get showered in praise.
A character becomes really popular for one reason or another? Highlight them more!
It's made worse when half the time you can't actually tell if any of this is true for a given show/game until like years later when something leaks or some higher-up decides to spill the beans, like how we learned years later that a bunch of Eeveelutions in Pokemon got outright canned because fans took all the good ideas apparently.

Not 100% saying DR does the above 100%, but every inch of the game feels like it. Toby's even got UT to build off of too.

Also Toriel should be in more form-fitting clothes more often.
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>>741689553
damn I was spot on
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>>741689596
Toriel canon boobs...
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>>741680069
Ralsei's dialogue portrait was cuter back when he had the hat on
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>>741680069
The games are only popular because of the furry community's combined ultra autism
That's it
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>>741688396
> It's fine to unwind and want to relieve stress
that's all i asked for and it caused you to have a meltdown
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>>741687627
Yes, please do
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>>741680850
i like the game and agree. toby is a cheap retard
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>>741690280
Okay then
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>>741680069
IT'S TAKING TOO LONG

Staggering releases over most of a decade for a single narrative destroys its sense of flow and urgency. Having a autistic fandom helps bridge the gap somewhat, but it's still too much.
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Funniest thing about Toby Fox rimmers is how easily offended they are about anyone criticizing his subpar "games".
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>>741680069
I think Ralsei is underdeveloped.
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>>741690209
>>741688396
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>>741684138
toby is a fucking faggot
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>>741680069
I like both undertale and deltarune.
I think he's taking too long and bending the knee when it came to the rose petals during the weird route sucked ass.
CH1 is too jarringly simple compared to the other chapters
CH2's DJ fight sucks ass because there's only one real solution, same issue CH1 had with the dog checker piece. Not enough agency to be interesting at that point. Spamton and the weird route fixes this somewhat.
CH3 has way too much to explore in the zelda sections there is so much needless walking/rafting.
CH4 has a lot of lore meat but noelle's christmas mansion sucks to actually play, the heart/soul moves way too slow. Too much repeats when you're doing weird route.
I expect I'll enjoy CH5 for what it will be, but I also expect it will have something that suffers from pacing.
Overall being a violent psychopath, weird route or not, doesn't have very interesting interactions with normal npcs outside of the designated freaky moments with more critical npcs like when you show up with Noelle's stuff. I understand this is a narrative thing but too much repeats itself. It's like grinding out the genocide run in undertale, it's a tedious chore only remedied by making your character auto-walk and borderline AFKing waiting for the encounter to start, a needless test of patience after you have done it in the ruins.
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>>741680069
There's no reason why it should take so long to finish the game. Otherwise?
>The story and dialogue
Shit
>OST
If we compare it to UT then it's a downgrade. On it's own? Nothing special
>Difficulty
Too easy, even with secret bosses
>Mechanics
Bloat that is only used once and never again like Targeting or shit that might as well not exist like elements system
>Designs
Temmie? Washed up burned out artist
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>>741689596
this has always been a problem with serialized media since always. If fans guess that it was the butler who did it in in chapter 1 you can't just rewrite the plot to be someone else but many writers frequently do.
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Its wrong to objectify Noelle. Only sick-minded freaks would joke about having sex with an emotionally abused teenager, especially one that is unusually obedient. Degenerates might be obsessed with her golden blonde hair and innocent eyes, but believe me when I say that I'd rather die than feel her warm fur against my skin, or help her pull off layer after layer of itchy, sweat-stained Christmas sweaters to finally reveal her pert breasts. Only a heartless monster would play with her exposed nipples (now harder than candy canes due to the AC), and you'd be a fiend to consider using those conveniently-placed antlers while engaging in self pleasure. Bastards like you make me sick, it's wrong to watch a shrinking violet shake her bare ass while her little tail flickers back and forth with barely-contained excitement. Frankly anyone who even considers helping Noelle reach her first mutual climax behind her mother's back should be put on a list, and while I can only speak for myself, I think most people would agree that feeling her heart beat rapidly while she clings to you under the covers, peeking behind her fingers at a scary movie, while cuddling in post-coital bliss, would be an exceptionally evil act. So knock it off.
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>>741691179
Fucking hell man. Why do people only post the good porn after i've nutted
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>>741688396
>playing a video game
>engaging in delusions
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1) It desperately needs a hard mode. Make all enemies like x2 harder, all bosses as difficult as The Knight, and make The Knight way harder
2) The conflict between Susie and Ralsei is extremely forced. Like she screams at him for no reason because Fox needed a dramatic moment
3) I would prefer if the Forgotten Man easter egg was easier to find for a normal person. If you don't read guides you will never find him
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>>741691179
>off model
what the fuck are those antlers lmao.
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>>741680069
Quasi visual novel with terrible writing, what little gameplay it and Undertale has is underdeveloped and lacking in depth. Either bullet-hell or RPG mechanics not much evolved from early Newgrounds flash games.
The writing itself reeks of someone who never outgrew their highschool "clown" phase where they thought they were a comedy genius but everyone around them just found it cringe and obnoxious. What actual narrative the games have, when it's not padded with unfunny bits, is clearly just made up as the author went. Major characters and events lack backstory or context, cliches and tropes run rampant. Whatever cohesion its fans think it has, or is going to have, comes from speculation from fans with more creativeness than its developer.

Stop propogating cultural cancer in my fucking video games and piss off to appropriate outlets like tumblr-tier animations. As if AAA and woke-shit isn't ruining this medium enough.
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>>741691403
You either live under a rock or you're being purposefully stupid or you're actually that stupid. Which is it?
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>>741680069

I thought the rape scene was in poor taste.
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>>741681315
Okay I like Undertale and all but why is this entire fanbase all trannies? I don't get it. I've never seen a fanbase be 100% trannies. And also, the fanbase only talks about fake shit instead of the actual stories. Asgore never ran a deer over, there is no deep dark edgy relationship in deltarune, there was no rape, etc. When Final Fantasy fans talk about their stories, they're talking about stuff that was actually in the story. When people discuss Expedition 33's story, they actually talk about what happened. Deltarune fans just discuss fake stuff that never happened and the threads are just shipping/fanart dump. And the fanart are almost always offmodel so they don't even like the original designs. It's one of the fakest fanbases I've seen. Can a Deltarune fan even explain why they like it other than wanting to fit in? I love the music and the designs, I'm not saying there's no genuine reason not to like it. I just think the fans don't know why they like it. It's just them projecting their thoughts on it and they love their own thoughts rather than the product itself.
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God chapter 4 is so boring I cant beat it
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>>741692519
>Why
>I don't get it
Cause it's primarily aimed at juveniles and tumblrfags?
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>>741692519
The amazing digital circus is all trannies too
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>>741692519
>why is this entire fanbase all trannies?
You thought the tumblr refugees just up and died when tumblr did?
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>>741691489
#3 wouldn't happen. We already had where Undertale locked a shitload of content behind the FUN setting or whatever the fuck it was called, and even Deltarune locks lore and other shit behind weird ARG-like websites, emails, videos and so on.

>>741691179
What's funny is that PROCEED actually gave me some kind of pseudo abuse kink. Bravo, Tobie Fawks.
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Finally beat the Knight after a couple of hours. I'm starting to fucking hate this game, but I'm going to have to play chapter 5 when it releases, and stay away from here so it doesn't get spoiled for me.
Not like there will be anything to spoil. Nothing is going to happen, again. Though I'm sure we'll get the most cliff-hanger ending yet.
God chapter 3 is so shit. Dumb Zelda minigames, bullshit egg. Cocksucker Knight. Maybe I'm just bitter after clearing Neo Spamton first go.
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>>741680069
well
it suffers from the same problems as Undertale for one
the levels are quite repetitive and the rpg portion has no depth besides its narrative gimmick (undertale's is "dont kill ppl lol", deltarune's is ???), every playthrough is the same unless you get hit more or less often or purposefully miss content I suppose.
this makes deltarune quite annoying to replay unless you really, really like its writing, note how everyone avoids replaying it like the plague, even when they missed content. I've played chapter 1 three times and I'll puke if I ever have to do it again. wish there was a skip cutscene button.
the visuals arent very good and are inconsistent
susie's character development is progressing too fast
it's not finished and wont be til 2028 at the earliest
I love both games but shit's rough when put under scrutiny.
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>>741692519
Deeply autistic and mentally ill people see shapes and colors, they like it, they ignore reality and unleash their maladaptive day dreaming on it.
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chrono trigger is better
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>>741693207
This applies to every form of media btw
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>>741680069
It's a dumb name
>b-but it's an anagram of-
It's a dumb name.
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>>741692519
You know that recent discourse about having to play games to be a fan of them?
Well, 99% of Undertale's and Deltarune's "fans" have never played the games. This is especially funny, because the games themselves (or at least, Undertale) explicitly calls this out.

But I don't know why the game itself attracted those kinds of people in the first place. Maybe it appealed to their sense of inadequacy or something.
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>>741693296
>The game for trannies attracted the tranniues (the creatures that say this exact thing)
woah
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>>741680069
It's increasingly obvious that toby just wants to make warioware while everything remotely interesting about the plot is relegated to the optional and niche weird route and obscure ARG's
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>>741680850
no competition=slower development
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>>741685908
The same reason Homestuck's popularity had fans throwing buckets at people in conventions a decade ago
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I did not care for chapter 3 outside of the secret route(which i loved) and i did not care for the "censorship" of the chapter 4 weird route after toby realized it was even rapier than he intended
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>>741684743
Filtered
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>>741680069
>Minor issues
The game babies the player outside of optional content, despite it being a game intended to be played second (I believe it warns you to play Undertale at the start)
There's little to no RPG mechanics, which is whatever. The elemental damage system, crafting etc has little purpose and is only relevant for the knight and maybe spamton neo, nor do characters change much over time
Acts are extremely simplified compared to Undertale, despite there being 3 characters who can act now
>Okay what the fuck
Why the hell didn't Toby get a full team directly after Undertale
Why the hell didn't Toby switch game engines
Why the hell is it going to take more than a decade to finish it
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the creator is a yuricuck soillennial trying to larp as a “cool” nip dev who sometimes posts cryptic tweets and food on x dot com
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>>741694420
>even rapier than he intended
It's 100% meant to be rapey but I think toby got reeled in by people in his team who told him 90% of his audience is either children or were children in 2016 (and still mentally are)
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>>741680069
The gameplay flow is too...well...the music could really be...uh...GOD THIS FANDOM IS FULL OF GAY FURRY TRANNIES. THEY ARE FUCKING INSUFFERABLE AND ANYONE WHO PLAYS SUCH BULLSHIT IS MASSIVELY SOI.
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The game the dev stole from are way better. It's just a zoomer snes game, it sucks
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>>741680069
Say something good about the game and Undertale without sounding a shill
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>>741694576
>Why the hell didn't Toby get a full team directly after Undertale
he's a perfectionist so he still wanted to make it by himself with how autistically complex the game is, there are interactions based on fucking moon cycles if you go backwards at 3 am 500 steps then do a double flip and recite mongolian mantras and punch your table and inspect 1 pixel in the game for 5 hours then replay the chapters in reverse order, reload and talk to an invisible npc upside down that will unlock 1 random line of dialogue
like he literally thought of every little tiny thing you could do, every pixel has to be crafted under his exact precise control
>Why the hell didn't Toby switch game engines
because that would require relearning everything from scratch?
he reused undertale and kept adding stuff to it, deltarune is built on the same project as undertale
>Why the hell is it going to take more than a decade to finish it
see the first post, toby is autistic that even with now a team of people helping him he needs to get everything EXACTLY PRECISELY where it needs to be and how it needs to work
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>>741694641
I agree this is likely but it did hurt my respect for him and the game in either regard, I greatly respected him after the ch2 weird route for his intentional tapping of a theme and energy that a lot of people would be terrified of even accidentally implying, so seeing him pussy out was disappointing
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>>741680069
i haven't played it so it would be dishonest to praise it
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>>741694641
>It's 100% meant to be rapey but I think toby got reeled in by people in his team who told him 90% of his audience is either children or were children in 2016 (and still mentally are)
he didn't get reeled in by his team though, they okayed everything and shipped it like that
the person who programmed that sequence and put that animation in
the testers who played through it
temmie who animated the rose petals
everyone

it's only after it released and people found it that he went back and changed it, because of the players
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>>741694762
>he's a perfectionist
Dog he made 2 shitty games.

Theres no perfection behind the games, they are shitty rpg maker trash and forever will be trash maker trash built on stolen ideas
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>>741694853
This. I can't stand that shit. Fuck censorship.
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>>741694906
yeah they are just shitty rpg maker trash that made him a billionaire
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>>741694938
ok? And how is that relevant to the games
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>>741694997
yeah no it has no relation i guess
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>>741688479
Gerson should've been a main boss, it adds so much to Susie's and him as characters and makes the rest of the chapter make more sense
Skipping it genuinely makes ch4 way worse
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>>741694853
>>741694935
>>741694641
>>741694420
There was no rape. Rape has a very specific definition and it doesn't apply to anything in Deltarune. Manipulation happens all the time in Undertale and Deltarune, it's not rape, unless you change the meaning of the word in an attempt to make the game edgier and more mature than it actually is. aka pretending.
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>some of the laziest NEETs or Wagies who never tried in history are criticizing Mad Dreamers
>>741684362
>>741680850
>>741687019
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>>741695168
yeah forcefully deflowering someone against their will as they beg you to stop while you insert a thorn into them and make them bleed is not rape bro
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Mad Dreamers make the actual game if it takes 10 years

NEETs vs Wagies will just make another 4chan thread for another 20 years
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>>741695204
>>741695287
>says the guy posting on 4chan
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Unfortunately Toby was a Mad Dreamer. These anons aren’t. They criticize and boast there chest yet have nothing
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>>741695325
Who said I was you? I don’t care about Gen Ys suicide pack because the world is evil kek
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>SAYS THE GUY WH

what are you 14? Kek buddy you’re also 45. Maybe time to lock in like Toby and I
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>>741695423
i'm 20
you're not locking in for shit if you're posting here
i've already accepted it at 20
you're still delulu at 45
we are not the same
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>>741695225
>hurting someone that doesn't want to be hurt
That's not rape. Thanks for proving my point.

>deflower
He didn't in the sense you're implying. If you mean the visual, Toby Fox visuals aren't literal. The heart-shaped SOUL isn't the character's literal blood-pumping organ. There was no rape. That's why you have to pretend, so the game sounds interesting and mildly edgy.

You have nothing. That's why you have to pretend.
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>>741695480
why are you here if you are 20? are you retarded?
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>>741680069
I wish Toby could be the first leftist faggot but with actual balls to tell trannies to fuck off.

Since they really are nothing but walking cancer to anything and are the reason UT/DT fandom sucks so hard for 70% of it other than just usual autistic Chris-chan tier spergs but without perhaps the tranny thing (ironic example I know considering Chris-chan is a troon).

The shayy tranny really put things come to a close considering he was doing witchhunts for anyone online who dared to "mispronounce" Kris.

I really hope the pendulum will come swinging back even on the side of leftists who foster that tumor growth.
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>>741695524
why are you here at 45? are you retarded?
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>even though I posted for 20 years I can’t believe it took someone 10 years to make a video game

It’s astonishing how your brain works Gen Y NEETs. So prideful like Satan yet nothing to show by copying and imitation much like you criticize everyone stealing your memes even though 4chan does it too like with Pepe
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Honestly Gen Y and Boomers are Satans greatest solders. They will jerk off to anime children porn for years but omg a video game?
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>>741695551
Old man site. You are wasting your youth playing dogshit games and shitposting in the baldman with glasses chinese kite forums.

We are not the same.
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>>741680069
While our ancestors wont have to deal with it the chapter shit comes off as inefficient planning and gives the entire game far too much time for adding details into throwaway characters and environments artistically and narratively. Chrono Trigger,Final Fantasy and even other indie shit like Fear&Hunger 2 or World Of Horror accomplish as much vareity without bloating out their assets as much as DR and they released more complete projects far sooner.

Also outside of the weird route giving the player some aggression it is really not that enjoyable narratively. Purposely it tries to maintain story beats for future chapters(which ironically, often stems from the stories overall small town scale despite how asset heavy it can be) and pisses out time with stuff like Susie and Noelle.
Personally I only play it for the weird route because otherwise it feels like it tries to dangle the keys in front of you too much for a convenient reveal in chapter 6/7 meanwhile theres really nothing else going on aside from the characters shrugging their shoulders and returning to status quo.
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>>741680069
battles are too boring and easy outside of specific outliers (Jevil, Knight) and the game could stand to have some complexity that isn't just minigame spam. Stats not really meaning anything sucks dick
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Undertale was okay but I refuse to play this until it's a complete game
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>>741684253
>>741685772
A part of me believes he wanted to preserve the T+ rating. I don't think the ESRB would like having rape in a game for 13 year olds
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>>741681176
It's funny that the hottest character in the game wasn't even designed by Toby
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>>741680850
There is because at its core it is just an indie game.
Once Toby got a team and could go commercial anyway production majorly picked up. The gaps between chapters got way smaller and now we are looking at Chapter 5 being released only a year later than Chapter 3 and 4.

We are highly likely on track to have all done by 2028.
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>>741696264
6 armpits...
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>have to restart Weird Route because recruitless is gay
>have to do the mike fight in main save
>have to beat the knight without the mantle and keep Tenna in third save
I'm not gonna make it brehs
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>>741688854
Maybe she'll be back at the festival
>How absurd. You might as well give all your money to a spider.
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>>741696264
>master1200
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>>741695168
Fine, we'll meet in the middle and call it violation or defilement
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>>741695745
Honestly, gookmoot should just ban anyone under 30.
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>>741680069
Stop selling it by the slice you shitposting homosexual doge!!!!
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>>741696808
sometimes there's an excuse for posting samples like the image being 20MB, but this time anon really has no excuse
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>>741696379
>Redo
Just use this https://tennaproject.com

Recruits add jack shit anyway and if you do do Weird route you cant recruit everyone and have to miss some.
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1. No Muffet
2. Toby should stop pretending Kris isn't obviously a boy
3. Asgore will probably not kill Sans
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>TROON TROON TROON LE TROONSLOP LE GOYSLOP LE ZOOMSLOP
This website is dead, isn't it?
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>>741695168
>man is incapable of understanding metaphors as a concept
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>>741697083
Has been for at least eight years. It gets worse every year.
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>>741697061
I get why he does it, but at this point I hope he starts blatantly referring to Kris a boy just to trigger the ever loving shit out of the looney troons.
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>>741697209
2012 + 8 =/ 2026
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>>741680069
It's too easy. The gameplay outside of secret bosses is boring and pointless
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>>741697343
4chan was last good in '08, started dying in '12, reached the terminal stage of cancer in '16, died in '18, and now is a zombie.
I stand by this opinion.
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>>741696875
That was needed because Toby can't finish the game by himself in a timely manner. I wish we had the full Deltarune though, but that's just not possible
There's an actual thread up btw
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>>741697406
Does that make 2020 the year it stank of decay and maggots
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>>741697061
>2. Toby should stop pretending Kris isn't obviously a boy
We arent gonna see Kris having sex or fast forward to kids so just let Toby keep his LGBQWERT points mate. Boy or girl doesnt really change anything anyway because Kris' only arguable love interests are both chicks and both seem to be about that emotional connection shit rather than wanting a man.
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>>741681315
more /v/ culture than the sharty
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>>741697779
Friendly reminder: Toby once posted some design notes from undertale on twitter. Next to Frisk and Chara, he wrote "Androgynous, easier to relate to".

This triggered the looney troons because it meant that the literal children weren't fucking trannies, and he ended up deleting it.
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>>741687206
There are definitely ritualposts towards the end of the threads, and there is a resident avatarfag seemingly
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>>741695678
uh oh melty
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>>741697779
>and both seem to be about that emotional connection shit rather than wanting a man
Both girls melt into goo over Kris the same way teenage girls do over a boy they like. While Kris maintains his own infatuations in solemn silence like every teenage boy who ever lived.
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>>741697760
Sounds about right.
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>>741680069
Because it attracts people with such wildly varied mental disorders, I won't get anywhere close to the game.
I wish I could filter it here, but people with those aforementionedemtal disorders are like trannies and they must have you witness how fucked up their brain is and they evade filters. Like (You)
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>>741700151
Thank God you're sane and with your head strongly screwed onto your shoulders, you paragon of mental health you.
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>>741700298
So do you have anything to say or are you just gonna seethe there are people who don't like your tranny game



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